these tier lists are awesome, i hope we see more for things like email and vpn services.

@EricMurphyxyz

Жыл бұрын

Good ideas! We'll see :)

@junedabat

Жыл бұрын

@@EricMurphyxyz If we're talking about email services, Infomaniak may be an interesting one to check out

@TobyMayne1

Жыл бұрын

same i really want to see an email one. for vpn i think mullvad is prob the best

@MQStudios

Жыл бұрын

@@TobyMayne1 sounds about right, but is it normie friendly though? I hear the speeds aren't the best and it's basically not for streaming.

@smithy2365

Жыл бұрын

Tom Spark on yt does good videos on VPN with tier list, I recommend :)

"it gets it from yahoo, which is bing, and bing, which is also bing, you can see all of them are bing" P1 - Wait everything is bing? P2 - always has been

The main reason I personally have Yandex bookmarked is because of its suprisingly accurate results. Not only is the reverse image search well beyond google images, the simple search terms give me exactly what I need on the first page. Mostly looking for leaks and torrents that other search engines hide.

@J-_-S

10 ай бұрын

most torrent sites intall spywares, malwares, making connection bridges to uknown IP. First you need to know which torrent sites are safe in order to download torrent without searching through search engines lol

@legitimo1788

10 ай бұрын

Duck and Yandex was where I found better image results, google show more memes and strange things, and Brave didn't even has an image search

@hoovysimulator2518

9 ай бұрын

Brave seems to have enabled their image and video search again, but every video search I did led to KZread, Twitter, Facebook. Just like before they took it down.

@UhOhUmm

9 ай бұрын

Google murdered the reverse image search, it worked exactly like Yandex, but they changed it to "detect" the item you're looking for instead of the exact image and so it doesn't work at all anymore.

@nameless_fairy

9 ай бұрын

​@@legitimo1788 AFAIK reverse image search from google was manually gimped. It was very good, actually.

Is there a good search engine that hasn't killed off search operators like inclusion, exclusion, and/or/xor, website filters, date, exact phrase, etc? I used to be a power user on Google and could usually find pretty much whatever I was looking for, and I was absolutely pissed when not just Google, not just Bing, not just KZread, but pretty much every website across the entire internet seemed to all collectively kill off their search operators as part of going "minimalist." I'm still pissed because I can't ever seem to find anything I'm looking for nowadays.

@friendlyfire7861

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely. I notice Google was getting crappy are 2014. It's curated and confining now. What used to be like a laser beam is now just fogginess.

@user-nt3vs8qx2p

5 ай бұрын

What do you mean? operators still work okay. sometimes not as accurate as before though, like not 100% respecting the operators but it's not like they're dead

@DragonsEatTofu

2 ай бұрын

Yes, operators do sometimes work. But I’ve noticed that search engines still push really hard to show results outside of my perimeters. Lots of “did you actually mean to search for this instead???” So unless I am searching something mainstream, they really hesitate to show what I specified. I used to be able to search small personal blogs with ease but now it’s so hard to find those little gems even when I’m knowingly exact wording from those sites.

@womp47

2 ай бұрын

@@DragonsEatTofu a good thing to remember is if youre trying to solve a problem or something, always put "reddit" at the end or just any sort of forum you think would answer it. whenever i search something, its hard to find an accurate result, but looking on reddit specifically usually answers that because pretty much every question or problem ive had has been asked before, and reddit is just the biggest place to ask things.

@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting

2 ай бұрын

@@user-nt3vs8qx2p Operators are totally dead on DuckDuckGo. and consecutive terms are treated as OR() by default instead of AND() in order to bloat hitlists and, like, pretend that the search engine has lot's of information when, in fact, it has nothing of use or value.

One thing I'd like to add: this tier list is based only from searches in english. If you search in another language, most of the tools in the "based or excellent" tier would not be so good.

@StarfoxHUN

10 ай бұрын

This is so sadly true. When Brave search released this was the main reason i had to drop it.

@furdiburd

10 ай бұрын

​@@StarfoxHUNat least its now soo much better than its beta version. I use it in hungarian and the results are localised (pre set fake gps ofc) so i get like the hun edition of wikipedia at fist ect.

@caiofranco2664

10 ай бұрын

@@StarfoxHUN dropped for the same reason, but recently i picked it up again, and i had no problems so far

@O5MO

9 ай бұрын

I am from Ukraine and frequently search in russian. I've been using Brave for a long time, and it works decent. Although i mostly search in english, its not bad in other languages.

@a_wild_Kirillian

9 ай бұрын

I don't understand this. They use Google's index. Both Startpage and Brave work fine in my native language currently.

4:16 I REALLY wish you mentioned Brave search's best feature: Discussions. Brave search will actually show you related forum posts related to your questions on Reddit and other forums too ocasionally. Reddit for many people, me included, is where I go when I say "I want software that everyone else uses" or "I want advice and I want it to be rated based on general public opinion." It's insanely helpful and can often times be a significantly better source of information than articles (which I'm realizing is a really sad reality now that I'm writing it out).

@Eichro

10 ай бұрын

This aged tragically

@kingby8499

10 ай бұрын

@@Eichro what happened? genuienly don't know

@Grion007

10 ай бұрын

@@kingby8499 Im guessing it was the reddit blackout that happened a few weeks back

@anonymousbloke1

9 ай бұрын

Who in their right mind would use Reddit over 4chan for something like that?

@Mentocthemindtaker

6 ай бұрын

@@anonymousbloke1 ...anyone who doesn't want to deal with trolls and shitposting I guess 🤷‍♂

I feel sorry for yandex, because it used to be a very good company with a lot of bright minds, before the government got its vile paws on it. Their services are of very good quality, even compared to big american corporations. Prices for paid services are also very very moderate compared to american. Probably because russians are not that wealthy. And their reverse image search has absolutely no competition. I didn't use their regular search much, but any time i need to search an image i go to yandex

@alexhauser5043

2 ай бұрын

Every large, national corporation is in bed with its government. Why would you - as a westerner - care whether the KGB monitors Yandex searches? No Russian court can prosecute you, and Russian intelligence won't rat you out to your own government.

I dropped DDG when they started imposing their (Bing's) definition of mis/dis-information. Bill Gate's definition and my definition vary greatly.

Duckduckgo should be in the surveillance tier. They host on AWS and AWS are a US government contractor. Everything that flows through AWS is likely handed over to the NSA.

@shoes4clues955

9 ай бұрын

they were also revealed to be selling data to microsoft a year or so back

@MrEdrftgyuji

9 ай бұрын

And they censor only one side of the Russia/Ukraine war propaganda.

@jonteet

9 ай бұрын

good luck avoiding AWS lmao

@MaxPanic

9 ай бұрын

@@jonteet It’s not that hard to avoid AWS. What’s hard is avoiding US government boot lickers.

@PhobosTK

9 ай бұрын

All US-based sites are bound by the patriot act anyway. Same goes for EU-based sites. You can run, but you can't escape

I definitely use Yandex for reverse image searches. I guess I wouldn't mind an anonymous frontend so that I could get the controversial politicized stuff from them too. What I am really hoping to find is a better search for KZread videos that have just been posted. I remember when the Notre Dame Cathedral was burning and KZread would only show you videos from official mainstream news channels instead of Paris residents who uploaded their unique perspective.

@echt114

4 ай бұрын

This seems to be true for almost any news event, especially if you're looking for vids of an explosion, crash, tornado, or other thing they'd apparently like to censor. So instead of getting the actual video you're looking for, you're flooded with news outlets that just have vids talking about it.

@jmister6824

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. I'm pretty sure they don't care what you do long as you're not plotting an attack on Russia. So I don't even care if they spy and collect whatever, what are they gonna do with it?

@alexhauser5043

2 ай бұрын

Yandex is owned by a Russian company. They're not beholden to western governments. Putin won't tell the CIA that you're into catgirls or that you larp as a traditionalist Catholic.

I've been using ddg for years now, and idk if I'm the only one who notices this but there's been a massive decline in useful results for me especially recently, one thing I absolutely hate about google is it's forced safe search filter imposed by networks, and I used ddg to avoid that but for some reason I'm getting a similar feelings to that google filter nowadays and only get the actual results I want by using a VPN. But yeah Yandex is pretty cool.

@user-si5fm8ql3c

10 ай бұрын

Been using it since 2019, its noticably worse now

@freed0ne737

9 ай бұрын

@@firelordkushroll I personally don't mind unless it doesn't along with my own. It's just quality search results for me are most valuable. I'm not sure whether or not that's have to do with the country I live in or not but yeah it sucks.

@omega3fatass61

9 ай бұрын

didn't ddg get bought out by a new team that started censoring stuff? as well as adding data collection to monetize it. whenever I see ads start popping up for something free like that they have to be extracting value from users somehow.

@nikoraasu6929

7 ай бұрын

They are microsoft's slaves @@omega3fatass61

@teaartist6455

6 ай бұрын

I think the worst part of ddg is that a lot of the standard search operators stopped working for some users at the very least, which makes it practically impossible to use.

So glad I found this video. I've been using DDG full time for the past 4 years. The search results are just getting worse over time. I also search for a lot of technical information and I'm constantly finding myself needing to search Google instead. It's frustrating. It's also frustrating when these search engines are openly biased admit to down-ranking results or pushing a specific narrative or agenda. Let me be the one to research various topics and come to my own conclusions instead of trying to tell me what to think.

Mojeek seems like it could be a good obscure topic search if it's bringing less common results to the front. The other searches would bury that stuff behind link farms or more popular stuff with similar sounding names. So the criteria putting it lower on the list in the video may be different for some people. (It could have gotten an asterisk in that regard if it's consistent in what it did here.)

@AngraMainiiu

9 ай бұрын

I am tired of search engines giving me the exact same crap about one result, you cant even look deeper in the pages due to the fact that most cut it off after the 5th page or so...

@belnonaodh1520

9 ай бұрын

Same. I've been loving Mojeek for years! It's the same story for their images. They're all from royalty-free image sites, but I like that, because I can copy and paste images from it into projects without getting into trouble!

@friendlyfire7861

9 ай бұрын

It's definitely good on certain occasions, especially for controversial things.

@agentoranj5858

4 ай бұрын

Seems like it's better to keep a library of search engines bookmarked for different purposes.

Yandex is the king of reverse image search for sure. Its essential for romance scammer exposure

@IndieAuthorX

9 ай бұрын

Is it really hard to identify a romance scammer?

@buddah1978egypt

9 ай бұрын

@@IndieAuthorX some can be very crafty, but the majority use models

@dreamystone

6 ай бұрын

This comment creates more questions that it answers...

@buddah1978egypt

6 ай бұрын

@@dreamystone unless you are a scammer, just answers

@dreamystone

6 ай бұрын

@@buddah1978egypt It really doesn't answer how the first use case you think to mention for a search engine is catching catfish. Is that your hobby? Do you have a vendetta against them? Have you sworn an oath to protect the good people of the internet that are just trying to find love? What's your tragic hero back story? Would you list spandex under casual clothing? I could honestly go on.

27:29 "violent or even pornographic content is already blocked here in advance... so for most people this probably isn't going to be for you" 😆

@friendlyfire7861

9 ай бұрын

Ya that had me spitting milk out through my nose.

@BigFatSeal10

29 күн бұрын

Idk, if you are so obsessed over privacy you guys probably have something worth hiding… You people obsessed with privacy probably have cp or something on your hds lets be honest, I don’t trust yall

i think its also worth pointing out about duckduckgo that they censor results based on their politics when the invasion of ukraine started they proudly announced they would start censoring russian sources and just russians in general, which regardless of what u think of the conflict this is bad just as a matter of principle.

I really wish Startpage would add Google's Verbatim feature. That seems to be the only way to get somewhat decent results anymore. My biggest problem with every search engine nowadays is that they always do ANY searches instead of AND searches. If there are multiple words in my query, I ONLY want results which contain ALL of those words. But instead, I get tons and tons of irrelevant partial matches, regardless of the topic. Even quotes don't help anymore. All of the search engines seem to ignore search operators entirely. They also love substituting your search terms with synonyms or other words that it thinks are relevant, but aren't. Very frustrating. Google used to be really good at letting you drill down and search for very specific niche things, but not anymore. The Verbatim function helps somewhat, but it's still not nearly as good as it used to be.

@barongerhardt

9 ай бұрын

Yes, I have the same problem. I don't know what happened to google but over the past 5-10 years it has descended from the king of good searches to being almost useless.

@watcher314159

8 ай бұрын

And yet somehow Google is still leagues better than DDG.

@mytech6779

7 ай бұрын

There are search syntax for such things, varies by engine but on DDG eg: cats dogs ; claims to be an AND search but as you note it may be a bit too flexible in grasping for results "cats" "dogs" ; works like AND with exact matches ~"cats" ~"dogs" ; works like AND with results similar to the terms cats | dogs "donkey" ; will return results with donkey AND (cats OR dogs)

@hughjass2534

6 ай бұрын

I can say that I stopped trusting Google results when they delivered a message that "you don't need to use terms like this, we automatically search all results to deliver what you searched for!" or something like that around 10 years ago. The problem is, I learned to search using Boolean terms. This just read as automatically stripping my query of anything that I specifically wanted to include or exclude, and just delivering what the company wanted me to see. I can't implicitly trust such a thing.

@velevetyy

5 ай бұрын

@@watcher314159 i find ddg better for images specifically funnily enough

Where is yahoo

@LRM12o8

14 күн бұрын

Who the F cares about Yahoo in 2024? That shit's been dead for decades! 😂

@Noahnillion19

7 күн бұрын

As he said, yahoo is just a bing frontend

@SoopCanSam-EthoPlaylists

6 күн бұрын

Lol he mentions it in the video

@fattony9227

5 күн бұрын

Yahoo is pure crap.

@qupufu

4 күн бұрын

yahoo doesn't exist 🤷‍♂️

SearXNG is like searx but with a more tolerable UI.

@EricMurphyxyz

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, the UI is so much better

@angusmacgyver

Жыл бұрын

Seems like pretty minor changes what I looked briefly.

@KBMNVLpNdLumkstz

Жыл бұрын

@@angusmacgyver I tried both and searxng seems like a better choice for low end servers and devices. Also it's faster than searx.

@user-vg8ov6lg1l

Жыл бұрын

have people actually read the github repo of searx or am i the only user that actually cares about privacy and finding stuff on the web with a selfhosted searx engine? Is searx for me? Are you privacy conscious user? Then yes. In searx we decided to double down on being privacy respecting. We are picking engine changes from SearxNG, but we are not implementing engine detailed monitoring and not adding a new UI that relies on Javascript. If you are willing to give up some privacy respecting features, we encourage you to adopt SearxNG. Searx is targeted for privacy conscious users who run their instances locally, instead of using public instances.

Awesome list! When you were on Metager, I noticed the Warren County Public Library. I actually live in Bowling Green. Anyway, awesome job! Hope your channel grows!

On the point of DuckDuckGo search results sometimes being useless, I personally solve that issue with just adding the site filter thing set to Reddit at the end, because a lot of my searches are things that probably has answers on some subreddit. Although, I don't ever really have an issue with bad search results, or at least not bad enough that I want to switch. As for the controversies, they haven't done anything that bothers me enough to switch.

@Damariobros

10 ай бұрын

Now that the ceo is killing reddit, that trick will start to work less and less, and while subreddits are still protesting that trick doesn't work at all. I'm finding more and more often, sometimes being almost every single search I make, I'm getting completely garbage search results. It's becoming rather infuriating actually, just how bad the results are getting, especially when I really REALLY need to find something. The more I need to find something the more garbage the results are and the more likely it is I have to ask the question on Reddit.

@muriilouwu

10 ай бұрын

When he said that a lot of times he saw himself using google to find what he was looking for, got me. Every single day I need go use google 1 or 2 times to find some good results, its time to try something new now 😅

@nou1592

10 ай бұрын

sometimes ddg shows me the best results in my life. Like, those things, that other searchers won't show me, even if I make a backflip 11000 times. On the other hand, sometimes ddg shows me THAT SHIT, that other searchers will never show me xD

@NothingXemnas

10 ай бұрын

I don't know if it is me, maybe it comes from how i make my own search, but not once i found the needs to filter it down to Reddit. Perhaps I just have different interests that are better documented in websites and wikis (which are user kept and curated anyway), but Reddit simply shows up if the result i seek is harder to find anywhere else, which isn't THAT common to happen either.

@BleakDeath

9 ай бұрын

@@muriilouwuuse google your attempts for so called privacy is embarrassing. The NSA has every packet of data about you. They know everything about you doesn’t matter what security measures you think will help protect you use whatever because nothing you do on the Internet is secure, so use Google use TikTok use whatever you want you’re just wasting your time thinking, the government or others won’t know what you’re up to go research Pegasus go research the leaked documents within the United States stating that they’re allowed to tap your phone and access your emails you’re wasting your time is what I’m trying to say

Honestly Yandex ain't bad when all you want to do with it is reverse search some anime art to find the sauce. They tends to be much better than Google even

@bruh.j4mes

9 ай бұрын

what kind of art in particular? 😂

@ameron3136

9 ай бұрын

@@bruh.j4mes any of them 👍

@bishnoi969

9 ай бұрын

@@bruh.j4meshentai

@YourNormalProgram

9 ай бұрын

​@@bruh.j4mes"Hen Tie", I find it odd that people reverse search anime out of all things to find chicken themed ties.

@mgord9518

7 ай бұрын

"anime art" "sauce" You can just say spank bank

ah, this video is a gift from the heavens. i was trying to figure this stuff out just the other day, but i don't even know that many search engines. ty

Very, very helpful video. I miss the old days of Infoseek, Altavista, Lycos, Dogpile, Metasearch, Webcrawler, etc. But this gives me hope someone will come up with a new, true search engine.

@rz12331

9 ай бұрын

Lycos and Webcrawler are still around- Webcrawler still mostly intact, but with a new logo that was created in 2018, and Lycos is owned by some company I do not really trust

@stickman-1

9 ай бұрын

@@rz12331 Thanks. I'll check them out.

@BridgetGX

5 ай бұрын

Dogpile was the shit.

@stst77

3 ай бұрын

I remember when a yahoo search was precisely what you wanted and had endless pages of results. Then the results started getting more limiting so I went to Dog Pile and that made up for it. Then Dog Pile disappeared and I switched to Google until realizing how little privacy I had there so I found DDG but lately the search results there are just pathetic to put it bluntly. I am thinking of switching to brave but I don’t like that they use Google which limits its search results with a leftist agenda.

Yandex is great for reverse image searching. I use it for nothing else. If saucenao can't find it, yandex usually can, or it can find something with which saucenao can work.

I'm not sure you mentioned this, but the main downside of SearX is that if you do self-host it, it gets less private the less people use it.

@luketeam5232

4 ай бұрын

Or you can use a public instance

I have been using Ecosia for years - happy with the results, and helped plant 40 trees!

as a minor, google has a different privacy policy for me and other people under 18, if you have a google account and are under 18, as far as i know, as of 2023 google is no longer allowed to target ads to child accounts, so i only get generic ads, which is annoying but nice to know that they collect less data than normal.

@asadfarraj

8 ай бұрын

The thing is, I had to set my age above 18, because of... you know, *stuff*

The only issue I see is simply searching for "kirby" to test doesn't seem that useful. Without some previous search history to help navigate what "kirby" you might be interested in, they're just going to give you everything Kirby. And now Kirby has reached semantic satiation.

@MrEdrftgyuji

9 ай бұрын

I don't want search engines monitoring my search history. If I want something more specific, I would use a more specific search term.

@andrewhooper7603

9 ай бұрын

@@MrEdrftgyuji that's fair. Just a trade off between convenience and privacy.

@mytech6779

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, The video bagged on results that included very relevant results just because they weren't related to some childish pink blob. If I search for kirby I am not interested in 20 links to a pink blob, I want the link I saw to vaccum cleaners or to info about Jack Kirby.

@4NeonFun

6 ай бұрын

This is valid and shows how unbiased the search engine is for not automatically making these assumptions. What may be considered a bug is actually a feature in uncovering our own biases. It may not be what we like but going for the completely unbiased route can be considered a flaw. This has unblocked some of my own personal qualms with anything other than Google, which is powerful since that's the one I've been using to get what I want and I've personally overlooked the privacy concerns with this since it would automatically tailor the results to what I was looking for which is biased in itself and I reckon that other users appreciate how intuitive this may feel and be ok with being treated as a product, but considering how website domains will pay to be the top result, this SEO function has really become skewed, especially in the last decade and primarily during the pandemic where clicks are especially important.

This man searches Kirby. This man is based. This man has one more subscriber.

@EricMurphyxyz

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I was literally obsessed with Kirby when I was a kid

I recently discovered your channel and liked your content keep it up! 🥳

My man, this is very very very much appreciated! I loathe google because the results have been absolute crap over the past few years, and I liked DDG, but Im kinda done using that as well

I'd enjoy to see an academic search engine tier list from you. Google scholar has a chokehold on the academic community

This is amazing. Thank s for putting this together. Any view on Kagi?

I know this is an older video of yours so maybe you won't see the comment. But, I wanted to say that I really love your videos. These aren't just tier list they're actually informational, instructional, and very well presented. You have a very good speaking voice, you're clear, concise, fun, and you don't take yourself too seriously and aren't afraid to poke a little fun at yourself and those of us who do sometimes go nuts with privacy. The best part though is that you're not pushing any agenda towards cryptocurrency (like some other "privacy" focused channels) and you seem to genuinely want to educate us on how we can take steps to make our online experiences more private and enjoyable. Thank you for putting these videos together and taking the time to bring us something that is entertaining and educational.

Excellent video and good work on the tier list and I agree with the rankings!

I find DDG results better than google in most cases, aside from google-scholar searches but that those aren't really a general web search. Of course DDG isn't really open source which means trust is inherently limited, but good enough for practical use and doesn't feed the 800pound gorilla.

4 months have passed and no, AI has not revolutionized searching.

@leonfa259

6 ай бұрын

It kind of has

@LRM12o8

14 күн бұрын

Eight months have passed and it definitely still hasn't!

Noob question, Eric, but how did you get that search bar in the middle of 'Brave'? 7:10 . I have to use the address bar, which is quite annoying when you've been used to 'Firefox'.

Google search results relevance have gotten worse recently (last few years). They might still be the best but Google from a few years ago was better

@belstar1128

6 ай бұрын

Seems like these days you got to use a lot of search engines because you never know which will be best. non are as good as old google but a lot are on par with modern google .

Great info and great list. Between this list and your browser list I might start using Brave search only within a Firefox variant. I do kinda think Startpage and Swisscows are interesting. Honestly, not sure why you gave Whoogle such a high rating. I didn't here anything about their privacy policy or actions to support privacy.

@juanpaulofricke1506

10 ай бұрын

its open source and self hosted, exactly the same privacy policy or actions to support privacy as searX

@energeticgorilla

9 ай бұрын

how’s the experience been? i’m thinking of doing the same.

@JohnSmith-vn8dm

9 ай бұрын

@@energeticgorillaI find Brave search to generally be pretty good. Not quite Google level but good enough for 95% of my searches. On rare occasions I do use the !g bang to get results from Google.

@friendlyfire7861

9 ай бұрын

Brave turned out to be totally woke and more biased than Google, unfortunately.

@juanpaulofricke1506

9 ай бұрын

@@friendlyfire7861 do you have some examples of why it is worse than google? It`s looking like there is no reliable search site :/

What distro are you using and what's the 1-8 number thing in your panel? Thanks for the great content

Love these tier list videos. Keep making em

Love the tier lists. Any chance you'd do one for linux distros? =D

@EricMurphyxyz

9 ай бұрын

Good idea, maybe in the future!

@jeffholmstrom8713

7 ай бұрын

Linux users are like vegans, lol

@4NeonFun

6 ай бұрын

​@@EricMurphyxyz Since you've mentioned how AI could change the way we search things in a way that this information would be out of date, I'm curious of what you would have to say about the search engines/ browsers that are considered defunct and how these same tech advancements have made these fallen to the wayside. For example, Avant is a little known browser and engine that was ahead of its time with features that rivalled many others you have listed on your channel. I've used it over a decade ago for example for gaming as the community has noted that you can use it to glitch out game servers to gain more items using its single process and split screen. Avant was an OG when it came to antispyware/malware blocker with adblock as a base feature and it was much faster and less data intensive than any other option. There's a dedicated niche userbase and something like that has been really responsive with changes. Also, there's absolutely no risk of data leaks as it doesn't store data and it goes away when you close it. Some things like that might come off as terrible to the average user but when it comes to data security, you know that there won't be any accidents if someone else on a shared computer was to reopen the application. They've gone a long way and while it was only available on windows, considering that it's been around for decades and quit updating around the pandemic, Avant kinda has some nostalgia around it for me as a quirky option that isn't talked about a whole lot.

My experience with Duck is literally the opposite, Google only shows me unrelated crap while Duck gets me actual useful stuff. Brave, I wont touch, not since the browser was found to add their own referral codes for crypto trading sites.

@emil.steiner

10 ай бұрын

if i already know what i'm looking for duckduckgo is amazing. But if i'm exploring a topic the partially related results like in google are missing

@nicolozss

10 ай бұрын

Agree with you on Brave. Since they were found putting refferal codes for crypto, I ditch them. I know for same people could seems a frivolous reason, but trust is the first thing. And, coincidentally, they disclose it after beeing discovered. Classic corporate move.

@doommaker4000

10 ай бұрын

Wasn't DuckDuck also involved in some controversy? I'd rather trust the crypto company since I'm not interested in crypto at all

@Is_kitten

10 ай бұрын

​@@doommaker4000yeah I think they were found out for not protecting your security at all

@galaxybuzz6765

10 ай бұрын

​@@Is_kittenI think it was that they were allowing Microsoft track you

27:10 reminds me of the firewall my school tried. Almost everything useful was blocked so we were not even able to open some wikipedia pages because certain keywords. The firewall just lasted 1 week haha

@LRM12o8

14 күн бұрын

Ah yes, when you can't research any information regarding the German "Staatsexamen", because your boomer high school teacher who volunteers as the school's system administrator on the side set up a "safe search" filter that blocks every query containing the letter sequence s-e-x 😂 Even though "Staatsexamen" is a combination of "des Staates", the genitve case of _ger_ "state" (noun) and "examen", from Latin for "examination", thus has nothing to do with sex(ual intercourse).

I prefer the silly little duck tbh

kinda crazy how yahoo isn't even mentioned anymore

searXNG is my personal favorite. it’s the same as searx with a better UI, more support, and more public instances available

@4NeonFun

6 ай бұрын

Thanks! I've been thinking of trying another search engine other than duck duck go or Google. I also really appreciate how searX is open source and a grassroots co-op alternative to having to rely on a massive corporation for search queries.

I use Startpage but only for web searches which I do 95% of the time It's quite eh when you wanna click on images, videos, news News is the worst because it won't give you anything most of the time So you're kinda forced to use another search engine just for the other tabs

@EricMurphyxyz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they could definitely be better. For me, using different search engines for something like image searches isn't that big of an inconvenience though.

Microsoft and Google: You call it personal data I call it...free real estate

I don't understand why you don't like the search results of some of the search engines. Search engines that respect your privacy can't read your mind, so of course when you only put "Kirby" into the search engine they would give you results for all sorts of Kirby-related things just in case you don't want the game. I actually like that they don't assume that you mean the game unless you actually tell it so. It annoys me when I'm looking for less "common" things and it's impossible to because the results are flooded with a more popular thing with the same name. It seems the browsers you didn't like the searches of solved that problem and that's really cool.

@4NeonFun

6 ай бұрын

I believe that this all comes down to bias. For example, the popular search results are biased towards the assumption that the game is what you're looking for as opposed to anything else that could also be queried under that same name. The search engines that are very much against disinformation campaigns have the transparency when it comes to their own bias as they only want accurate information to be accessed by the user. I appreciate this since there will be bias regardless of which options are used and using multiple search engines can address these concerns quite well, allowing the end user to ultimately decide whether the omitted search results from one engine are useful and much more trustworthy than those that don't disclose their biases if not outright deny that they have any at all.

@AlbanianThrash

5 ай бұрын

i think you're putting the cart before the horse. we've been browbeaten into accepting search engine bias from vague search terms and are now biased against a search result that shows you everything pertaining to a vague search term. rather the focus should be on refining your search terms to refine your search results. so if you want the kirby video game series, then search for "kirby video game" or something similar. we've just been conditioned into laziness by search engine algorithms. so not only have search engines gotten worse, but psychologically we've gotten worse at searching

Very accurate tier list from my own attempts. I've used, and liked, Qwant. It may have been Bing but it gave me nice results. Shame they wernt the way of DDG. I also tried Yandex. The problem is that it's very finicky at times - good for general results but not so good at anything else. Searx is the best, with Startpage a close second. Brave is aight, feels like DDG did back in the day, but I barely used it. Guess that's gonna change now. lol

@ecnop9961

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, after using brave, duck duck go and qwant it was qwant that gave me the most reliable result, even though I was sometime forced to hop on google to get something too specific.

@PCsSabotage

7 ай бұрын

Give a shot to swurl it's different and good. There's also kagi (a premium engine) which is stupid but they have a free trial. But if you want just a simple and secure search engine I suggest alohafind it's so good but not pretty looking

@hughjass2534

6 ай бұрын

Strange notice, but KZread actually didn't display the two replies this comment had at my time of posting. This is a commonality with Facebook in how it lists that replies exist but does not display them in the general UI. Currently using Brave for browsing.

Appreciate the 4 new web search engines to use👍🔥

I don't know what you smoke but Google's search results are often complete garbage.

After DDG tanked my trust in it, I just moved to Brave. I honestly can't live without Bangs anymore at this point, it's just so much faster to be able to directly search the AUR or nixpkgs over navigating manually to the site or even using Google, and I'm glad to have a Bang search that's also attached to a... semi-usable search engine that's somewha more trustable than DDG (for now?). I still need to use Google sometimes, but if I'm just searching for Reddit post then Brave is usually fine (though lately I need to use Google more for that for their Cached Pages - I wish there's a Cached Pages and Proxy/Preview on Brave as well).

@fisheatergaming

9 ай бұрын

I dual boot arch and nix currently oh

@mytech6779

7 ай бұрын

DDG has bangs, but if you trust them it isn't super relevant.

An Opera GX sponsor here would be legendary

@smirkjuice

3 ай бұрын

Too bad that it's 1. Spyware, and 2. it's not an engine

You are doing an Awesome Public service! Please keep it up! 24:04

Yandex is good if you speak Russian and you want to search for pirated content. All browsers have their own usecases so, try to take advantage of all or most of them.

Mojeek seems to return the most Jack Kirby results, this should bump it up one tier.

yandex image search is way better than google's for art and anime, while google's is great for real life images from my experience

A question since am a noob. If you use say brave but set the search engine to Google do you still have the same level of protection or does it ruin the whole protection aspect?

@EricMurphyxyz

9 ай бұрын

Well, Google will collect personal data about your search history but not about your browsing history. That might be a tradeoff you're willing to make, but I recommend using Startpage (same Google results but without the personal data collection).

Thanks for this video! would be cool if you did one about video streaming platforms too. And social media may be, as you may know some I don't beyong Mastodon

I think I try mojeek. Often my search results are littered with corporate content. Nearly every word in the English language is part of a movie or song title.

Where's Presearch? That's a privacy-based search engine too.

He Eric, Thanks for your Video. It's helped me to add new search engines to my browsers.

Legend, I didn't know there was so many options for search engines.

Yandex is pretty good for *whispering* pirated software search.

@BridgetGX

5 ай бұрын

Russians are the best at pirating shit, lol. Used to download so many mp3s from a Russian site...

By the way Bing has become much better with Copilot integrated inside. It’s pretty much same or better than Google search engine. Google has been slipping for the first time in a while

@GuiSmith

7 ай бұрын

I think Google’s been slipping for half a decade at least. The reason nobody, including Google itself, ever noticed was because it was so far ahead of the competition already and all search engines were in need of some improvements. Finally some competition has snuck up from behind while Google has been faltering. All their recent degradations to their browser and search have probably been bandaids to avoid confronting the writing on the wall, but they have already lost their exclusive foothold in search power. It’s only a matter of time before it gets worse.

@BleakDeath

7 ай бұрын

@@GuiSmith I very much agree I personally use MS 365 and with MS edge so much better I love the extra features. How good Bing is (much better than Google search engine) and literally has ChatGPT 4 (Bing chat) and dalle 3 built in which I use everyday. And it’s free. Bing is very good now it’s not the same search engine even 3 years ago. Also no adds you don’t have to scroll down just to find a non add website

I like the Yandex image search for translating text in image files. Is there a better alternative?

8:44 great consolation. the problem is not that I can't find the information, it's just that the search engine is bad. PS to some extent, this is funny, but I didn't think before that a search engine could really be bad.

i used to be one of those yandex simps until brave came along. as you said, they definitely keep track of your info but I didn't mind since they're halfway across the world. they do have a good search engine, online docs, storage, and email service and I've always liked their clean interface. they also have a decent chromium-based browser too, which i used for a few years.

@Yes-uf2je

11 ай бұрын

Yandex? Non Russians use that 💩?

Yandex sounds interesting tho when Google tries to censor all the results

@tri99er_

7 ай бұрын

Yandex just censors other search results.

When we search kirby, the way our engine "knows" which kirby we are talking about is due to how they store data in the first place. If we say "kirby is a very *popular* character and yet I'm getting a diner's website as a result" then we mean it's okay for the browser to tally up the results. In a 100% private search engine no term can be popular. So what we get must be a chaotic mess of results with basically a string match. Am I wrong in thinking so?

Thanks a lot for this and the web browser one :D

Brave Browser really does not deserve more than « decent » I think. It's not as bad as Qwant, search-wise. But damn, it's just not as good as Startpage. It's really not. I work in IT and sometimes searching for stuff has been painful. It's very very fine for most use I think, but when you need more it just doesn't deliver. Startpage have been serving me for years. Tried Brave for months but came back on Startpage.

@friendlyfire7861

9 ай бұрын

Agree, and it's more biased than Google for anything slightly controversial. I got frustrated enough I said bye after using it a long time. Just look up who is jn charge and you'll lose a lot of confidence in the results although the privacy is great, which is why the browser is a decent choice. But not the search.

If you dont care enough about privacy or bias to sacrifice usability then thats up to you, but i'd rather not support google or bing if i have a choice. I used gigablast before it shut down a few months ago and it had the same issues as mojeek (which im using now). GB was the only search engine i know of to be completely open source.

@friendlyfire7861

9 ай бұрын

Mojeek has good uses and I hope it keeps improving.

how did you make your browser look like that?

Google really holds a tight grip on this, cause I didn't even know there are THAT many search engines.

I’d love to hear your opinion on Kagi.

@EricMurphyxyz

Жыл бұрын

I'm too poor to pay for a search engine. But in all seriousness, it looks interesting and I want to try it out some time

@Dara-wk5ty

Жыл бұрын

I rather get private ads then pay 25 dollars per month for a search engine The 10 dollar pack only includes 700 searches in a month which isn't enough for me

You should've included Chinese search engines too

@khrounose

10 ай бұрын

Kind've goes without saying its surveillance tier no? lol

@PyroNexus22

10 ай бұрын

@@khrounose yeah, but they should still be included

what firefox css do u use

So happy I found your channel/ subscribed!

SearX is incredibly based indeed

Have you tried out You? It's a really cool search engine that seems to be attempting to be a privacy oriented Bing/DuckDuckGo hybrid. Still in it's early stages so I don't know how private it is/will go but if it sticks to it's claims and improves it's technology it feels like it could be a defacto alternative to Google or Bing.

@aprilmauricio9975

11 ай бұрын

You is underrated but I also like it. It even has integrated GPT on it which is pretty similar to Bing's AI and has a neat UI

@JJ-un8do

11 ай бұрын

Why do so many search engines use bing when its literally memed on for how horrible it is

@corb805

9 ай бұрын

​@@JJ-un8doit is probably a cheaper option to pull from compared to Google

@someoneelse4811

9 ай бұрын

​@@JJ-un8doI assume Microsoft is more lenient about frontends, so they can indirectly compete with Google.

@friendlyfire7861

9 ай бұрын

​@@JJ-un8doIt's not that bad anymore, less biased than Google. But I avoid it because of the telemetry. And their AI has been lobotomized. It's lied to me on several occasions.

This was an awesome video about search engines. I learned a bit. Now I will try this searx.

Hi Eric thank you for sharing your experiences trying different search engines. Using Firefox for the first time and Google is default/automatic search engine in Firefox which I didn't expect. I thought I read Firefox used Duck Duck Go as their default? I have been using Bing for awhile and seems it's search results have improved but still not as good as Google's for particular queries. I don't have Chrome just Edge and Firefox now. I tried Brave maybe couple yrs ago (?) and ended up disappointed with their search results (more than Bing's) and some sites acted up while using Brave. I'm learning and a question is if let's say Duck Duck Go or Yahoo uses Bing or another uses Google for results than why not just use Bing and/or Google?

FIREFOX IS NOT A SEARCH ENGINE FIREFOX IS A BROWSER

Brave sadly started to redirect image searches to google about a week ago, which basically made it unusable for my needs.

@EricMurphyxyz

Жыл бұрын

Same, that was a big disappointment for me too. I've been using DDG images and Searx's image search but they're not that great

@user-tw2kr6hg4r

Жыл бұрын

@doomposter at least you didn't have to visit bing for them

All I want to know is why my jar of jif peanut butter is extra watery than normal. Everything that comes up is people with the same answers, either saying it doesn’t have hydrogenated oil (it does) or its natural (it isnt) its impossible to find any other search results so I guess Ill have to find out if this peanut butter is bad by fucking dying 😃

ecosia has fixed most of the privacy issues you mentioned you gotta give it another chance or review it, i pretty much agree with everything else tho

it needs to be said that it's not the ranking focusing on privacy, but on search relusts quality.

Hey wheres web crawler at??? Lmao

i heard there was other decent alternatives better than duckduckgo that is apprently starting to go rogue.

what linux distro are you using in this video? it looks super cool

@hanhthien2948

Ай бұрын

its Arch btw

"I've even talked to people in-real-life..." I don't believe you

So despite having one of the best search results and by far the best reverse image search, yandex is bad because russia?

@mathiasrryba

9 ай бұрын

Russian government who owns Yandex isn't a trustworthy source of information. You'd be closer to the truth taking everything they say and negating it.

@PhobosTK

9 ай бұрын

@@mathiasrryba and the US has bing and google by the b@lls (or the other way around). Should the same principle be applied?

@mathiasrryba

9 ай бұрын

@@PhobosTK yes

@mgord9518

7 ай бұрын

This rating is largely based on privacy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Russia has the best privacy laws. Google also gets very good search results, and sure enough, it's surveillance tier.

@mgord9518

7 ай бұрын

​@@mathiasrrybaAnd everyone already knows that Bing and Google spy on you. Giving your private data to Russia instead of the US is not being private. Sure, you could argue if you live in the US, the US government is much more likely to cause you trouble than the Russian government, but it still doesn't make Yandex a private search engine. His review of it was 100% reasonable. If you like its good features, use it for them, but it should be avoided for anything where you feel privacy is important.

Yandex whole ecosystem is superior to other giants, simple as that. Search is extremely accurate, image search is extremely usable(compared to google and alike), reverse image search - i guess, well, it is very good too, i just don't use it often. I am biased, cuz im russian, but i really can't daily drive anything else, Yandex is just better at everything(except privacy).

Nice work, but damn that's a dismal array of bing & google front ends. No wonder folk think the net has gotten stale.

I'd bump stargpage to based, because google is peerless if you search not by literal term, but by description. Google's AI is doing a very good job at *understanding* what you are asking, and results include also sources which are based on synonyms and, in general, other wording. I found that Brave doesn't even compare.

@Mr.Mister96

5 ай бұрын

StartPage doesn't receive the original search results from Google , they receive watered down results especially on niche and/or controversial topics