Would love to see an Ian all time WITB. Ian's favorite clubs of all time put together in one video and to play a round with them

@StevelandCleamer

2 ай бұрын

That’s a great idea!

@ballzmckracken7919

2 ай бұрын

That video would be 3 days long. 🤣

@mitch3745

2 ай бұрын

It'll be a 3 hour video 😂😂

@roryheath9536

2 ай бұрын

Agree. But think there’s a lot to learn from that video as to WHAT makes a club great.

@sdawson258

2 ай бұрын

No point, it'll still change every week! 😯😅

I play 2 BRNR Mini drivers. One is my driver. It’s a 11.5° head with the heavy weight forward and a 43.75” shaft. The other is a 13.5° head turned up to 14.25° with the heavy weight back and a 43” shaft. Both are super. Both are easy to hit off the deck.

@BigDawgCAM

2 ай бұрын

Damn! Hogging all the minis

Picked up last year’s BRNR driver over the winter in the hopes of being able to help my game off the tee. Having a 30” wrist to floor measurement, a fairly good swing speed at around 110 MPH, and pretty good mechanics, I could still never get a modern driver head to square up properly, even at 44.5 inches playing length. The mini driver has been everything I hoped it would be, a throwback to the small headed drivers of the late 90’s and early 2000’s that I used to hit well. I settled on a playing length of 43.25 inches with the stock stiff shaft tipped a half inch and replaced the 1.5 g forward weight with a 6 g one. It is so much easier to square up the smaller, heavier head. The neutral angle of attack feels more natural to me and I love the flatter, more penetrating ball flight I’m getting with it. I’m still hitting maybe one ball out of bounds every round, but that is a massive improvement for me. I’ve maybe given up ten yards on my best drives with the 460cc head, but if you average out all my drives, I’d say my average distance has increased. It’s given me freedom to experiment with a 44 inch playing length with my regular driver.

The mini driver from last year to me is a game changer confidence wise. I play the 11.5 with the strong weight in front. It's so satisfying to hit and the sound is amazing. Fairways after fairways, gives me the same distance as my friends crushing their drivers. We are all athletic young 90-95 scorers. Nice review.

@TheTurdEye

2 ай бұрын

I have to add I don't use the mini in the fairways yet as the 11.5 loft I need on the tee scares me a little bit. I will work on it at the range. I did try a rocket stealth 1st gen 3 wood and sold it fast because I could not hit it well at all.

@TheJaakeee

2 ай бұрын

how do you find the flight with weight forward? i've fiddled with mine but left weight back and standard loft 11.5 get roughly 265 yds and quite a high flight. Now that its getting warmer i may try turning it down with weight forward for some runners

@dobermanownerforlife3902

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheJaakeeemy stealth 2 plus 3w has a forward/back adjustable weight. When I move it totally forward, I can't get the ball 30 feet vertical. Shifting weight forward makes little round rockets.

@dobermanownerforlife3902

2 ай бұрын

​@@TheTurdEyeI do the same with my stealth 2 plus 3w. 260 carry turn down to 13*.

Can we PLEASE see Mikey hit the mini, 11.5 head vs. his gamer driver. Interested to see the mini at 11.5, maybe even turned down vs a gamer driver for players with "normal" swing speed.

@kyleleskiw5644

2 ай бұрын

I play an 11.5 mini with ventus blue tr with swing speed around 100-105mph. I do play a full length driver shaft and had to get aftermarket weights to get swing weight right but I don't play a driver anymore. Ballspeed and spin rates basically on par with anything on the market atm

@benlicwinko7949

2 ай бұрын

@@kyleleskiw5644 ok so u play 45.5 but what did u swing weight it to? D4?

@kyleleskiw5644

2 ай бұрын

​@@benlicwinko7949Yep. 4g in front and 1g in back vs the 1.5 and 13g stock

@ezhaskills4860

2 ай бұрын

@kyleleskiw5644 where did you find those weights for purchase for your mini driver

@kyleleskiw5644

2 ай бұрын

@@ezhaskills4860 find your local fitter/builder (club champion, etc) and they may be able to order them

Yah the burner has not business being that good off the deck. But that mat is a PERFECT lie. Go hit it off grass where it is sitting down a bit, or out of the rough and then report back. That is where the fairway wood profile will shine

@JeffHill-hh6xt

2 ай бұрын

the BRNR wasn't designed to hit off a bad lie just like a Driver isn't. But off the deck in the fairway or even a good lie in the rough it just works. As Ian said though if you hit it on the screws every time you would gravitate to the rocket.

I just put a BRNR mini in the bag with a Ventus Black 8TX. I am gobsmacked that I can get this thing 30m in the air with the heavy weight in the front. OFF THE TURF. I love this thing.

Holy crap, finally! Been waiting for this since the original Stealth and Brnr Mini when your data was identical in separate videos. Thanks a lot for making this comparison, guys!

Have the 300 mini and love it, so much more confident than with a 3 wood of any sort, Even out of bad lies. Play my 11.5 at 13.5 and a million degrees closed for all the right to left tee shots and I never have to worry about drawing a driver. Do get the odd knuckly one high in the face of the tee but other than that goes about the same distance as a good 3 wood and unlike a 3w I actually use it. Can’t say enough good things about a mini.

Mini driver all the way!! Use the 11.5 degree. Replaced 3 wood! Love it! Never going back. Such a good fairway finder!!!

BRNR hands down best club I ever purchased 11.5 heavyweight forward off the tee and 💣

I’m rocking the Cobra Aerojet Max 3 wood at 14.5 degrees. I added 3 grams of lead tape to the toe to remove the draw bias, but I get that club up and down the fairway well! Great off the tee or the deck. Love it

I now go Mini BRNR to 5w/3hy. I've ditched the driver and 3w. Mini for me is that good. I hate the term but BRNR Mini truly is a "game changer" for me.

Gotta loved the jabvs by Mickey. Do not have access to a Mini Driver so I got the original stealth rocket 13.5 playing at 14.25 and it does everything I need it to do off the tee. Sadly - haven't needed it into a green.

Am I the only one who finds driver WAY easier to hit fairways with than a FW wood? Gotta be mental, i guess.

@steve827

2 ай бұрын

It’s all about commitment with 3 woods I rekon , driver you just swing it hard and with 3 woods I rekon majority get steery and try to hard to hit to a smaller target area

Curious about the differences if you like to hit down more with fwy woods and the strike moves higher up the face. I don’t feel comfortable over a shallow fwy wood because I think I’ll just sky it with anything but a sweepy swing. Not really many deep face woods out there right now and is why the mini is looking appealing to me..

I've put my old SLDR TP 83 grams 3 wood shaft in my 300 series mini driver.. i broke the face on my old 3 wood ... Good replacement.

Gave up on the mini driver. I didn’t like the shaft but the head felt great. Didn’t make sense to buy another shaft for $200. Went with a st max 3 wood instead and I love it. Lost about 15-20 yards

@jon4715

2 ай бұрын

You can order with a different shaft, however it is weird that there isn’t a stock x-stiff shaft.

I have my top of bag as follows: Ai Smoke triple diamond 9° turned to 10°, 2023 model BRNR set at stated 13.5°, Qi10 Tour 5 wood that I’m currently playing at 18° but going to try at 16.5°, and Qi10 Tour Hybrid at 22° but going to try at 21°. I’m not a fan of hitting the BRNR off the deck but that just because I need more practice. I am so happy with the top of my bag (my whole bag really). The Ai Smoke triple diamond is the best driver I’ve had. I’ve had Rogue ST Max LS, Stealth, Stealth 2, and Qi10 core and LS versions. It’s surprising how forgiving the Triple Diamond actually is.

@muntjunk-plk3171

2 ай бұрын

You have too much money 😂

I have the stealth plus rocket, I love it… lost some confidence in it off the deck… got the qi10 3wd this week. Not sure if I love the qi10 3wd…. Changed out the shaft in stealth plus…. And hit it great… to be noted, I have qi10 standard deiver(love it) qi10 LS 5wd(love it)

I hear what you say about you hit it high but the problem I see is the gapping. From what I’ve seen, you commonly carry your driver on sim 280. What good is a 3 wood/MD you carry 270? I think I’d rather have a 14.25-15* 3 wood or MD I carry 260, then a 5 wood I carry 240. That would seem more effective gapping out on course as opposed to just the longest hitting 3 wood I can find

@Zeesneakyninja

2 ай бұрын

Because you don’t want to hit your driver on the fairway. You use the mini driver when you want a driver like carry off the fairway.

I've played 4 versions of the TM mini-driver, culminating with the 2023 BRNR. I haven't played a 3-wood in a decade because of this. There is so little difference between my Mini and my PXG Black Ops I wonder if I should be carrying both. I do, because the PXG is so, so good. But I really lean on the BRNR to find fairways. I just have to be careful and not hit through doglegs with it!

Wondering swing weight on this tempted to build it with a 7x vf but not sure if it will play too heavy. Currently playing the vf 6x in my driver

I had a horrible experience with Club Champion unfortunately. I was excited to get fit because I’ve been watching these videos for some time now. I went and got fitted and later found out I was paying $700 more for the shafts than at another place. I asked if cc could match them with little response. I called and emailed several times. The customer service people said the builds haven’t started so I asked them to wait until I hear back from management. Well, they pushed those things quickly out the door and management (Cindy Carlson) gave me a call to let me know they shipped. I told her I was looking at getting a match. They said they won’t match or cancel. Zero empathy and all sales. This is a really bad experience. Makes me sad to hear since I watch so many of these videos.

@killacamfoo

2 ай бұрын

CC is a joke for fittings, never get fit there. Always go to a local expert shop or ask a PGA teaching pro who is charging at least $150 a lesson. They know.

@richardl7570

2 ай бұрын

@@killacamfoowell, I know now for an extra $700. I just really liked their thought process and videos here.

@killacamfoo

2 ай бұрын

@@richardl7570 could be worse, I had a friend get a full bag fitting there and he walked with a set for $5,000. It was worth $3000 tops. Then again he's on wall st. so I didn't feel bad for him like I do other people like you who get hosed. Hope the sticks are fantastic for that price.

@erich9882

2 ай бұрын

@@richardl7570these guys were formally known as TXG and were purchased by Club Champion a couple years ago. Ian is world class, unfortunately the same cannot be said for club champion. Sales at the expense of experience is the name of their game and it’s sad that TXG is having their brand equity tainted by club champion

@Stiggy-ri5ey

2 ай бұрын

I was about to book a fitting. I’ll ask about prices up front before I book.

I sit here and wonder if the average person understands just how difficult it is to sit here with different clubs and every single swing is in the center of the club face. I mean this is extremely difficult to hit shot after shot after shot dead center. Amazing really

I'd love to see a comparison between the BRNR mini vs a full sized driver head with a shorter shaft and higher loft. If your goal is to have a shorter club off the tee for certain situations. Why not just carry two drivers for maximum forgiveness??

@jon4715

2 ай бұрын

This. This is the video everyone wants to see but no one is making.

@mattstrmec

2 ай бұрын

Definitely! Test the mini against the Marty Jertson setup!

@jminisci

2 ай бұрын

Done this test. A driver cut down to 43.5" with a 70 or 80g shaft is a nice fairway finder but can't be hit off the deck into a green. It's more forgiving than a mini but not as versatile. You also want to get a head with slightly more loft than you play in your standard driver. For example I play a 9* head and the shorter driver was 12*. Shorter length creates a steeper AOA so more loft is typically needed. Really all comes down to the player and whats needed in the bag.

@jbweezer

2 ай бұрын

I made my own mini driver with a 12 degree head and the same shaft length as the brnr. I re-weighted the head. Easiest 240 yards total and dead straight that I have ever hit and I can get that at under 90 mph. And I game my longer driver at 44.5 inches.

@JaxReds

2 ай бұрын

@@jminiscito be fair I think if your replacing 3 wood with mini driver because you can’t hit it I don’t think your hitting mini driver off the deck anyways

We should start lobbying for unlimited clubs in the bag 😂😂😂

Due to my slow swing speed, I can not use a 3 wood. I have my mini burner turned up to 15 degrees, and it actually works like a 3wood should for me off a tee or off the grass. Even poor strikes and worm burners get me straight down the fairway and with decent yardage.

What is a fariway?

@dobermanownerforlife3902

2 ай бұрын

It's that area on the otherside of the trees.

I just bought a mini driver I dropped a Tour AD UB 7TX in it and omg driver is out of the bag

Can the general public get the QI10 Tour rocket heads? I can’t see them in the uk at all. I have the Stealth Plus rocket but would change based on the additional fade bias

I want a 7.5 degree 260cc modern-tech driver with a short shaft. That is all. A 6.5-8.5 degree BRNR would do it.

@MissedtheCut

2 ай бұрын

Me too

@dobermanownerforlife3902

2 ай бұрын

Yes please.

Now try hit them both out of uneven lies in the 1st cut of rough?

My question is how does the mini preform out of light rough vs a 3W?

This looks like a win for the 3w. It is almost an inch shorter and had same distance. Average player will top the minidriver off the turf.

So this is like for the 4th or 5th Mini Driver video I have seen and I think I am still not understanding the point (which is my fault). Is the min-driver decided to be hit both off the deck and off the tee? I love my driver would be hard pressed to change it but my confidence off the tee is minimal with my 3 wood (I think I am more likely to hit it off the heel) and I have never hit it off the deck. I am much more confident with my 5 wood and my 4 hybrid. So those longer holes where I have 250-270, I don't have that club that will get it there. More often than not I am laying up and taking birdie or par. Would I benefit from something like the mini-driver?

What length do you play your mini at?

This video is my exact dilemma. I drive with a stealth 2 plus 3W turned down to 13*. I carry 260ish. I am finding it difficult to validate buying a driver. Maybe with a proper fitting I can get the 300 plus mark. But 600-900 sounds completely ridiculous for 40 yards.

Do cobra darkspeed ls 3 wood+ at 11.5

I dont see the qi10 rocket 3 wood for sale anywhere?

I can't a 3 wood to save my life so I don't have one in the bag, struggled with a strong hybrid and long irons as well so I just go straight from 4 iron to driver. Driver is the best club in my bag but because of the big gap between 4 iron (205 yards carry avg) and driver (270 yards carry avg) i've learnt an off speed driver swing to plug that gap. Theoretically a mini driver would suit me, but from everything i've seen so far the numbers would be way to close to my actual driver so either one of the other would not get used and where's the advantage in that?

What do we think of the stock shaft on the brnr mini, ok option? Ventus blue spin lower on paper?

@tigertim9232

2 ай бұрын

The stock shaft is horrific. If you put a sort of lazy longer swing on it you can time it but try to play a punchy low cut or something where there is more change in direction and load on the shaft and it turns into a noodle

I used to hit 300 yards drive all the time with an old Bubble shaft Fairway driver back when they were new

@InsuranceSpecialist

2 ай бұрын

Sorry but we need some old video confirmation 😂😂

@lt.squinky552

2 ай бұрын

I’m sure you did

@vicgeier3482

2 ай бұрын

Much younger then but still tall.

@dobermanownerforlife3902

2 ай бұрын

​@@vicgeier34821997 TM titanium bubble shaft 9.5*. Fairway everytime about 275 out. If I still had the club, I'd still use it.

Love my brnr mini .. game changer.. the average golfer( myself included ) would not be able to hit a rocket for toffee!

What shaft are you playing in the Mini Driver?? I bought the Mini @ 11.5 (only option as LH golfer) but don't like the stock proforce shaft. My shot shape is typically straight with a slight fade or draw and this is the only club in my bag where I'm Slicing. Also hate the feel, or lack thereof with the Proforce M40x

@kyleleskiw5644

2 ай бұрын

Ventus blue pairs well. The mini is actually a draw biased head so if anything you should be missing it left 😶

@kyle8370

2 ай бұрын

The club head might be lagging behind to much. I would try a stiffer low launch and spin shaft.

I look at peak height and spin for these two clubs. If wind is a factor then its the rocket.

People have been sleeping on the mini since the 300! Shout out to the Sling King Mac Boucher for putting us on years ago🤙🏽

11.5 mini even possibly turned down vs driver?

When does the qi10 rocket come available to public?

I have a stealth rocket and hit it higher on average than the 3 woods i have had.

Took 12 shots to get 5 keepers with the Rocket. 9 shots to get 5 keepers with the mini. Thought that was interesting for both being off the deck

Mizuno ST-G v Mini!!

I use an old 11.5 degrees titleist Tsi driver as a "minidriver". Spinny and drops like dog turd. My driver is 9.5. And rolls.

Why does they call it the rocket? is this a type of 3 wood?

Different shafts in the two clubs. Would rather see both with the same shaft for a valid comparision.

Two Gun Fraser

How did everyone that owns a mini driver pick their loft?

how does Ian generate so much club head speed, he barely looks like he's swinging that fast.

Ian said the mini driver or any second driver was pointless a few years ago. Then a few tour pros used it and the sales among amateurs were strong, and now here we are showing how great they are. 😂

@reneo6866

2 ай бұрын

Maybe because mini drivers are better designed now…easier to hit off the deck so you don’t lose the versatility. Imagine thinking nothing evolves and improves. Imagine being smart enough to allow your mind to be changed when data proves otherwise. But keep hating

I would love to see the mini in the hands of someone with a 100 mph club head speed....

SIM2 Rocket still king.

Why not just make the mini driver a true mini driver? A 9.5 loft but the weighting and shaft length make it easier to hit than a 460cc/45.5 inch driver? I already cut my driver down to 45 inches, and would love to go further but i throws the swing weight off and the head still feels too big. I would definitely see the value in that. I always felt my older, smaller drivers were more accurate than the 460cc era.

Weird, the answer is PING G430 LST 3 wood and you hardly talk about that club!!

Too many great clubs to try them all. Sigh!!!!

Someone could easily go 11.5 turned to 10* mini driver and 13.5 mini driver to 15 and not even have a driver

There is no reason for you to hit a 3 wood or mini off the deck. How many times do you hit that shot in a year? Maybe 5-10 times. Off the tee is where you should compare them for your game.

@BEAN9999

2 ай бұрын

Sorry, I commented before the video was over.

What is so odd about this title is that empirically the Arccos data doesn't support the concept of a "fairway finder". Unless it's throttling back to avoid a hazard, the accuracy gain does not justify the distance loss from the driver. 3% more fairways hit on average(49.7 for the driver vs 52.6 for 3 wood) but 12-15 yards shorter is not gaining strokes.

So their basically the same club