Gwent at its peak was the best and most underrated card game at the same time.

@ATGLorcana

11 ай бұрын

Agree

@Knetterkoekje

11 ай бұрын

Ive played so much during this t ime and am very grateful for that :D

@kuzuthunder1964

9 ай бұрын

For me that goes to mythgard. Gwent is the one I played the most in the highest rank tho. It was just way too satisfying to win and losing always made me better at the game.

@projectx5154

8 ай бұрын

It's such a different game. It almost plays as a board game and that makes it stand out from a typical tcg. I think that's why it didn't catch on despite the huge popularity of witcher and even the gwent itself that was in witcher originally

@Teachermook

5 ай бұрын

Honestly I went and got a physical version of the game because it was that much fun.

The guy didn't play most of the games and put as the video title "The ULTIMATE Card Game Tier List" WTF😅... Ok, now it's official there is so many scams on youtube.

Gwent was so unique, beautiful card design no cartoonish bullcrap like in other games and beta was so much fun.. Honestly makes me sad we lost it so soon..

That's the problem with Magic: if you don't get into it, it looks really complex, but once you're in it's irreplaceable. All other card games will lack the same depth in comparison.

@Bjorn-sl9jr

11 ай бұрын

Magic is great game but very very very expensive one, unfortunately.

@joebowl8315

11 ай бұрын

Mtg is the genshin of card games Too big to fail And people who still play are suffering from sunken cost fallacy I'm sorry you didn't cash out when prices peaked awhile back. Hope you find an exit point one day

@TruthAndReconciliation

11 ай бұрын

Maybe it’s different over the board, but the online version isn’t much more complex than others (especially gwent). I got mythic rank in a couple weeks after picking it up, and I’m too stupid to do it in any other card game

@Bjorn-sl9jr

11 ай бұрын

@@TruthAndReconciliation Agree game is pretty easy to play. Maybe what Freddy meant that is not that easy to follow from spectator position.

@pinobluevogel6458

11 ай бұрын

Magic is by far the game with not only the most different cards, but also the most different game types and and variance in playing pieces. This makes it incomparable to anything on this list, except for maybe Yu-gi-oh or perhaps Hearthstone. If you're used to playing it, the complexity is quite ok. Maybe tolerable to people used to complex boardgames, however it is by far the hardest game to get into, unless you have someone with simple decks to teach it to you.

RIP Runeterra.

@FriteVerte

3 ай бұрын

Rest in Peepos :(

@locke8412

Ай бұрын

it deserved better

@KaalosCoopernicus

15 күн бұрын

What happened?

@locke8412

15 күн бұрын

@@KaalosCoopernicus Riot pulled the plug on all PvP content

@KaalosCoopernicus

14 күн бұрын

@@locke8412 Really? I completely missed that. :/

Oh man, I miss the old Gwent so much

@fenexj

11 ай бұрын

Same man, same. Remember the old deck building screen? Made you feel like you were putting together an army or warband.

the best part about Artifact were reddit posts "if you dont like game just dont play it" with like 10k+ upvotes, and yeah ppl quit that game pretty fast even tho they invested a lot of money to play this xD solid A tier because it make me laugh years after

Old gwent ehh... Take me back to Eden

can you make a video of your best beta gwent clips? i still remember when you rng into like a 60 points nr card with consume nekkers

Elder scrolls is a boss game. I still play it like everyday even though it's been dead for years.

@ATGLorcana

11 ай бұрын

Yeah, ESL was really solid

Never been more excited for a Freddy vid

during the years i played : pokemon maple story, yugioh, world of warcraft, dragon ball, turtles tcg, dual masters, star wars tcg (wizards), harry potter tcg, and maybe two more i dont remember now (yes i tried magic, no i didnt like it), and so far, my favs are star wars dual masters yugioh but harry potter ,turtles and maple story was surprisingly good as well

Steam says I have about 1500 hrs on Master Duel (Yu-Gi-Oh) in about 18 months. I agree with your tier list in almost every way, and I think you would like YGO if you could get past how intimidating it is to get started. It's an eternal card game so it never rotates, which means there's 25 years worth of potential decks. It has a ton of depth and might be the most skill intensive game I've played. The digital side is very F2P friendly as you can basically make any deck you want at first, but then it falls off as usual.

@chazz3316

11 ай бұрын

It's so hard to get into ygo now days. I love yu gi oh going back to GX where everything was simple, it's VERY unfortunate that everything changed so much and now it's so hard to learn. But still a big fan of it, it never gets old, when I was kid I spent so much time playing tag force and the duelists of the roses.

@cylonsteve2511

11 ай бұрын

@@chazz3316 I still play the Tag Force now. It was the last game my grandmother bought for me, so real Heart of the Cards there 😊

@Julianm29

11 ай бұрын

I always was so intrigued to play YGO, I started to play it and it's fun, however, the pool cards is so overwhelmingly large and the game has so many twisted mechanics nowdays that is very hard to get used to it, it's so comboluted that I don't know what is happening most of the time.

@alexsaho572

11 ай бұрын

I would stay away from modern Yu Gi Oh as far as possible xD, true classic yu gi oh has a lot of problems and op cards but atleast i get to play the game and my turn. Modern one people cant finish their damn turn for 5 to 10 minutes. Its a horrible experience for new players, abbysmal.

@PetyrC90

6 ай бұрын

​@@Julianm29play tag force games. They are all emulatable in psp. After you understand how basic mechanics work, you understand how to interpret cards.

thanks for the list. i’ve been researching/trying card games as I am playing through Trails of Cold Steel 3 and 4, which has a card game called Vantage Masters. I really want to find a standalone game as close to that as possible, but I may be out of luck from what I can tell. Still going to try some more and see if any hook me in.

Is Duel Masters digital yet ?!

Legends of Runeterra the best game ❤

@locke8412

Ай бұрын

RIP i miss it so much

I loved eso legends played like 2k+ games on there. Sad it died. They had a great game imo.

modern yugioh is solitare. Round 1 wins are common. But in the past a 1-2 round game lasted 3 minutes, today it lasts 20-30 minutes. Some of the older formats are fantastic though, like Edison and GOAT.

Legends of Runeterra seems to be the one to have it all tbh, probably the most f2p, i find myself always going back to it not feeling like i missed much, very underrated. It's all i been playing along with Snap, im slowly feeling burned out from Snap and the fomo is the worst, you can skip a few releases but you just cant skip them all, they did some very weird things lately making some cards stay longer in their series and giving us the most useless cards which is not a good look, i'll be waiting for DC duel as i got a beta key im willing to give it a try despite not being a big fan of how it looked from the recent streams on it.

@chazz3316

11 ай бұрын

The game Legends of Runtera is a lot controll based, with a lot of removal cards and the advantage is always in the defender side (that can choose which unit blocks each atack), that makes the game so slow and it has also very long animations (that you can't skip), without counting the emotes part of it that you can't mute. This factors pissed me of in the first week playing it.

@vecheeto21

11 ай бұрын

@@chazz3316 Not really control based, maybe during the meta when you played but now the top decks are mostly fast aggro decks, as for being the defender i wouldnt say it has any much advantage than being the attacker, as the attacker you can pick which units to attack with aswell that give you the best value trades, if there arent any then its ok to not attack, these choices are what gives you an advantage you just need to be more reactive to what your opponent is doing whether you are attacking or defending. I never really felt that the animations were long they're only a few seconds, and during those animations im probably thinking about my next play so more time for me, you can also mute emoters by clicking on the emote next to their name in case you didnt know 👍

@chazz3316

11 ай бұрын

@@vecheeto21 no, I'm speaking about muting all emotes permanently, for me only the fact that I need to click there every match is already something boring. The animations and the turn time always felt to long to me, the opponent having 30 seconds to react to every movement of yours makes the game take too much time, even when using agro decks. Heartstone and old school yu gi oh just feels way better to play with each player choosing which unit they want to attack, simple/none animations and each player having their turn to do combos without being interrupted every card they played. The only advantage this game have at the end of the day is that's f2p friendly.

@pinobluevogel6458

11 ай бұрын

Was looking into Runeterra, as I've heard good things about it. My only issue is time, I have to actually tone down a bit on my other games, which I am not willing to do. (yet) As for Snap, I stopped playing for a few days as I didn't feel like it. After a week or so, I had no desire to get back to it. The biggest thing keeping people in after the first rush (or honeymoon period) is the fomo. Once you break that cycle, it is actually counterproductive in its effectiveness. You start to feel like you missed out on resources, falling behind a bit, making it harder to motivate to get back into it. Hopefully, I can pick it back up and still enjoy it like I did before.

@tastyteddybear9927

4 ай бұрын

This comment didnt age well now Runeterra just died today

LMAO! I did play a lot of Commander MTG. But didn't really enjoy it 😅 I guess it has a strong community? I think E rank is fair 😅 1 in 3 games you can get mana flooded or drought.

SushiGo didn’t make the cut? (If we are including actual card games) Either way Freddybabes, your marvel snap videos are tops mate 👍

I can't believe KARDS are not on the tier list. I guess WW2 theme isnt as appealing as fantasy worlds. I strongly advice you to try out KARDS, and would love to hear your opinion on it. It's easy top on this list IMHO. Faeria is also, a hidden gem.

freddy will you play DC duel force?

Elder scrolls legends is crazy underrated. Yet alone for the prophecy system and the two lanes. Deck building is also really good. You can either build a 50 card two colour deck or a 75 card triple colour deck. Futhermore this game has a loyal player base even though the game died three years ago...

@TheZomboy11

8 ай бұрын

nah dude, 75 triple color is busted, powercreep is insane. game is alright but it aint anything special. you netdeck and win or homedeck and lose

KARDS - а card game about the Second World War

Pokemon is almost the opposite of Magic. There is no interaction and the turn sequence is very flexible- you can generally do every action in whatever order you want, except attacking, which ends your turn. It's clear how many times you can do each action. Probably the main thing that is notable about it is the amount of search and draw. It's sixty card decks and depending on the format it's not unusual to draw 20 cards in a turn. Hell, there used to be deck where you could go through your whole deck, shuffle your discard pile and then keep going all in one turn. That makes the decks very consistent- while you still brick and get bad draws you do go into the game reasonably expecting to set up and execute your deck's strategy. That leaves quite a lot of room to focus on in-game decisions to maximize consistency and adapt to what the other player is doing and adapt to the matchup.

Legends of Runeterra is the most underrated. I have played it for years totally f2p, quite complex and fun. Sometime games drag a little but the art and music and animations god tier. Just a shame it did not make money so the dev support was shut down and they will only support single player. Such a shame. 😢

I love Flesh and Blood although wish there was a digital version. I really do not like playing card games out at places lol it’s a shame they probably won’t make an online one

@pinobluevogel6458

11 ай бұрын

Agreed, unless the option exists of trying it online somewhere, I think a lot of people are never going to pick up on it. In the real life sphere, the game is competing heavily with the boardgame market, which has not only excellent games, but also is way cheaper to buy into. I'm pretty sure buying into another collectible cardgame is just not something I'm willing to do anymore. Maybe if its extremely appealing with the Lore and has a fixed set which you can just buy without the randomness, but the random packs with rarity, hell no.

@saifuusuri

Ай бұрын

Pro Tip for that: Use tabletop Simulator. Sure most of the games aren't automated, but if staying in the comfort of your own home and easily finding others to play with is what you want then TTS is a gold mine. Although if all you care about is the automation side of things sucks to be you I guess.

Hope you have plants vs zombies in there. Edit: no you don't! It was great

@Poooll

11 ай бұрын

Big agree

@Facusblues

11 ай бұрын

PvZ: Heroes is S Tier for sure

I think I'd have loved the gwent game if it was like the gwent in witcher 3 but its not the same. 😢

Hey freddie, i recommend giving legends of runeterra a second chance, the game is in such a good state right now after rotation

Just wanted to say, though you are spot on about the apologia and excuses the community uses MTG is not deserving of E-tier. I'd argue it's easily C or B tier if you aren't starting with the deeper formats. Game is abyssmal to jump into though because it has some serious fundamental issues, both in it's actual game rules but also tournament rules. It has basically stumbled it's way into the front of the pack and it's really not deserving.

nice :D

Pokemon is probably the most refined tcg that exists, really well designed. Yugioh is very interesting, no mana or energy system where the only resource is your cards and how you use them. Gameplay varies alot between formats though.

@misterjackpots

11 ай бұрын

pokemon is absolute rubbish compared to flesh and blood

MTG Arena was great as F2P for about a month or so, then the matchups and fair gameplay started to go south VERY quickly for me. Give it a shot. Maybe your experience will differ from mine. You can go pretty far for free. I'm still giving it a chance via a learning curve to see if I'm missing something, but when you go from a 50%ish winner to less than 10% at the flick of a switch, something shady seems to be going on.

Try a card game which is implemented in Genshin Impact. I am not joking, though there is no competitive part in it, mechanically this game looks quite deep and interesting for me

@maarin9184

11 ай бұрын

Hoyoverse actually announced an official tournament series last month with a 270k total prize pool with many rounds played on-site. The community tournaments scene is also pretty lively afaik.

Im a huge sucker for Card Games, Collectables etc. i plazed a lot real Card games: Magic, YuGiOh, OnePiece, Pokemon, Digimon, Dragonball and lord knows what i forgot.. I started Hearthstone in Beta und was a sucker till Grandmasters 2nd season. Then i got bored by the huge RNG fiesta and dying to aggro turn 5. sometimes i revisit it but never really. Its an A for me though. I also played Gwent BEFORE homecoming and i played every second of my life. I loved the Dwarfs deck and the ones with the Ships... dont get the names again... It was PERFECT. when homecoming hit and they changed so much i immediately went out after like 2 days. never played since then... RIP and clearly SSS Tier! Eternal i played a lot and its the closest to Gwent ranking wise. You have Mana like Magic with single and double but the doubles have fun effects... like light dark mana and when u have 3 of one you get a bonus effect and if you have both, you draw a card. stuff like that makes it great, way better than the magic chore to draw mana. also there are units / spells that can be used as mana in a pinch. from a mechanik standpooint its smooth, has a lot depth piece, a sideboard where you can get to in a game with special cards (market, a keywork such as battlecry etc.). Overall its really really, really good! theres is aggro but very very few and you have good counterdecks and control decks... boy are these fun. S Tier. Next is CUE: Cards, Universe, Everything. Its am mobile game and it has like 1000 cards but its mechanic is kinda like Snap. You play 5 rounds max and the first one to win 3 wins. each of the games has an Arena where cards from that Part get boost, like Dinos, Ocean, Land etc. and you bank the mana. So i can punt round 1, lose it and have like a lot mana for round 2. The fun part is they have changing rules each week. Maximum Mana, Mana refresh per round, Minimum mana etc. all change. minimum means you can spent all mana on a turn and have that amount next turn. Maximum is clear... u cant store infinite mana, just until max. and mana per turn can be 10, can be 50. cards cost from 2-10 so theres A LOT of room for deckbuilding. play few big cards, play like 10+ cards a turn with only 1-2 cost that are still powerful? Its really good: S tier and for the last online one i played: Snap. I Think Snap is kinda perfect. I love a good cardgame with short games for a ride on the bus, sitting on the toilet, 2-3 fast games before sleep, whatever. Mechanics are really fun, cards are fun, artwork is insane. Overall i really like that one: S tier. sure i played a lot on the phone and there are like 10-15 cardgames i played there but nothing kept me in for longer than a week because they are shit and i cant even remember their name xD

So, the top 'S' tier games are Flesh and Blood and Beta Gwent? Flesh and Blood I find not very appealing both thematically and gameplay wise. Most importantly: its a collectible card game like Magic the Gahering, with insane prices and no easy way to get cards without spending tons of money. Saying a beta version of a game has been very appealing is understandable, but I felt exactly the same way I first played MTG, or even Hearthstone and more recently Marvel Snap. This honeymoon period, though certainly memorable, enjoyable and very important, is not very indicative of a game's true strength. A game's true strength is in replayability and being enjoyable for longer periods of time. SNAP falls flat on its face, once you start to go into heavy grinding territory. The game was like kindling on a fire, lighting up quickly and then fading equally fast as soon as you miss a few days and break the fomo cycle. There is something to be said for a slowburner like Magic the Gathering. Yes, the game has serious flaws (the mana system, extreme pricing, being a collectible game which you cannot ever hope to complete), but once you have a bit of a collection built up and a bunch of friends that also know how to play, you can and will always go back to it after a period of inactivity. I am currently on a long break from the game, but even then I played a few times with a friend when it came up randomly, it was still enjoyable. Sure the company that creates magic is a sh*t company, but so is Blizzard. Sure, the game is too expensive, but so are most of these games if you want to be able to play the new cards asap. I just think, being the only cardgame I always come back to (which no other cardgame has ever succeeded doing), even after playing for most of my life, it deserves an S-Tier for me. I would rank SNAP and Hearthstone as a B-Tier, while my A-Tier would be Star Realms, Jyhad (later called Vampire the Masquarade TCG), Dune CCG and LotR TCG.

lor s tier ngl

make a tier list, with games you have not played.... seems legit

You're smart enough to understand magic i don't think you've given it a proper chance tbh, i t's the oldest and most popular for a reason. Still gwent at it's peak is my favorite though ill give you that.

I knew exactly what I would get out of this but man, you really did not understand magic 😅😂

@Freddybabes

11 ай бұрын

Easiest E of my life

@guillem5650

11 ай бұрын

@@Freddybabes it's okay, you are allowed to be wrong

@joebowl8315

11 ай бұрын

As someone who played mtg since the 90s E tier is correct Magic has fallen so hard and ur not being honest at all to say otherwise

@wilkic2

11 ай бұрын

Played a bunch of Magic for years. I’d give it a C tier

@cylonsteve2511

11 ай бұрын

@@guillem5650 I still play MTG and it is an E. Large community (of overspending suckers, unless you proxy) is the only thing to stop it being F.

i miss you gwent

Yo Gwent, I'm really happy for you and Imma let you finish, but Android: Netrunner is the best card game of all time. OF ALL TIME."

Will CDPR ever bring back OG Gwent in a legacy mode i wonder!?

Beta Gwent was so much fun but honestly the limits on golds and silvers made a lot of decks use the same cards and golds being immune kind of sucked. Regardless I miss my self wound skellige deck so much

Didn't you ever play Versus System? It killed MTG for me and then Upper Deck killed it 😂

U miss to rank kards. Great video freddy

Shadowverse for me was just as stunning and fluid to play like Heart Stone, but the Artstyle for me is way better than Hearstone.. They have cards you actually want to collect besides playing.. Maybe compare the card graphics and designs for Shadowverse to something like Flesh and Blood but on steroids, they can because they are digital.. But for the physical card game type, I would choose Flesh and Blood over MTG anyday, its just next generation mechanics, super clean and well thought out - it took literally decades before a new good solid card game popped the market! Just reconsider the video and put something like Grand Archive above S tier and drag Shadowverse in front of Heartstone, you should clearly see a mature and or kids card game from miles away!

I know ur gonna get alot of hate for this video but I enjoyed hearing your opinions. Thanks Freddy

I am here to represent the TEPPEN fanbase, cheers.

You forgot about Might & Magic Duel of Champions this game was before HearthStone had good gameplay also cards were easy to get.Sadly ubisoft made it and it died for no reason :(

@Potato6153

11 ай бұрын

True, it was very fun until they broke it with some cards

@DzyntaMokry

11 ай бұрын

yep best card game for me after gwent, sadly it was ubisoft so doomed to die xd

@stanisawsnarski7717

11 ай бұрын

There is fanmade Duel of Champions Revival if someone want to know how it look like.

Marvel Snap and Yu-Gi-Oh definitely in S tier, and dead games in dead tier not an s and a tier.

Fair tier list. if you hate magic you'll hate yugioh more.

I loved teppen but no one who spoke English played it.

Yu Gi Oh is what I moved onto to fill the void left by Gwent's revamping into Homecoming. It sucks for like, maybe a wholeass year? Seriously, do not even attempt to play competitively before 6 months of cohesive playing :P Then it gets...ok. Some formats are pretty good, some formats are bad.

I never played the S tier games: Gwent or Flesh & Blood. I do want to play the latter, but I don't know if I have the community to play with sadly? Come back Gwent!

@legnome3063

11 ай бұрын

It’s still very much alive dawg

The best card game is Mahjong Soul baby

most accurate tier list

Where is KARDS ????? "KARDS - The WW2 Card Game" is probably best card game out there and you are missing this game???? I am very surprised don't you know about KARDS? Didn't you try it?

@steamhesabim

3 ай бұрын

Also there is "Marvel Duel". It is only mobile, still playable with an emulator at PC. Marvel Duel is very fun to play, high quality card game. Marvel Duel should be in every Card Game List.

hearthstone the best

man yu gi oh is ass that shit is negative tier with the length of the turns/combos. I personally set a 10 minute timer and take a nap whenever its my opponents turn

Snap heavily overrated. Magic underappreciated. Flesh and Blood, Hearthstone and Artifact I can get behind. OG Gwent probably more A tier if I am being totally real and homecoming maybe C.

Hearstone is S tier or A

Play all the games and get back to us.. basically careless clickbait.

Ok Freddy. As someone who’s played, and enjoyed Mtg Arena, Runeterra, Yugioh, now Snap. I completely agree with everything you said except for Snap. Easily S-Tier. No debate. Easy to get into, Great gameplay core mechanics, interesting artwork. I would say the only thing holding it back is the hostile environment for newer players. The card acquisition is easily the worst of any card game I’ve seen, but at the same time is not mandatory to do well. That’s what makes it good imo in addition to fast games. Sidenote- YU-GI-Oh = F-Tier 😅. Given what you said about mtg yeah…….. never 👎 play this game. Think of mtg without a mana system and you just solitaire most games. Or get stopped and watch them do it. Long complicated combos. Or try and draw cards that say NO. This is probably the worst game for newer players. Also………… CONQUEST MODE TOMORROW!!!!!!!🎉

THis guy does a tcg tier list but never played pokemon or yugioh and don't understand magic. And has the audacity to call marvel snap as a valid game

I don't think I've ever agreed more with a card game tier list Love seeing Artifact get some respect, great game with the worst monetization system I've ever seen.

old irl mtg > everything, aside from that yeap, old gwent was the best digital card game i played by far :)

Man, I appreciate so much your opinions and experience (met you for the first time back in Gwent days) but this Tier list is all wrong 😅 I’ve played almost all listed games and just cannot agree. MTG is in top 3 for sure, so is LOR and perhaps Pokémon (in terms of mechanics at least). Snap is close but for me this is pure casual game, not much strategy involved. Just good time killer. HS is boring after couple of years, YGO is totally not my lore. Eternal, Shadowverse good but felt apart somehow. Gwent… I was enjoying a lot but then it felt too “mechanical” and repetitive. They wanted to minimize randomness and went too far. Every game was the same, literally I know all cards which were about to be played by opponents. Got bored a bit.

U said mechanically soeaking, so ok mechanic's only. And you put Marvel Snap over Runeterra 😂 Now thats a big COPIUM

@Freddybabes

11 ай бұрын

Can you retreat in runeterra? Didnt think so CHECKMATE

@whitehood1e

11 ай бұрын

@@Freddybabes What??? U can retreat wtf u saying

@whitehood1e

11 ай бұрын

@@Freddybabes And I say this respectfully, don't get me wrong, but you CAN retreat in Runeterra

Faltó clash royal

Card games that are still great yet absent from this list: Ashes Reborn, Android Netrunner, Keyforge. For those who like lane battlers one of the best is Radlands. It’s a card game in a complete box so don’t expect a TCG or LCG but then that’s also one of its appeals. I feel like you should have at least played all the games before making a tier list. They’re easy enough to learn as they’re all based on MTG yet all offer something different.

How is this the ultimate list when you havent even played one of the most popular card games made even if you have zero knowledge of the game the fact its as large as it is makes it s tier alone..

1. Yu-Gi-Oh! 2. N/A

First

Snap is hot garbage.

Horrible tier list

@ATGLorcana

11 ай бұрын

Found the Pokemon player

@nbchannelnb

11 ай бұрын

“ultimate” tier list, but third of the games in ? category 😂

Im so sad about Faeria .... 😢 ....btw whats happened tò Teppen?

Hype for Warpforge

You're right dual force is trash although Snap is way too simple to be that high. I would say snap is B tier

@Bjorn-sl9jr

11 ай бұрын

Trash is pretty harsh critique for a game that was not even released yet.

@44Heisenberg44

11 ай бұрын

@@Bjorn-sl9jr im just rating off of the beta tbh

@Bjorn-sl9jr

11 ай бұрын

@@44Heisenberg44 Yeah got you. I agree UI and voice acting is trash tier from what they showed us so far other than that game looks fun