The good thing about New Zealand Rugby is that in most positions you could debate 4-5 players whom should feature in an ultimate starting line-up with only a few shoe ins. I myself couldn't see a team without Cullen

@RogerBiwandu

2 жыл бұрын

I'm with you here re. Christian Cullen. Then I'll put the late great Jerry Collins instead of the great Jerome Kaino I need to see the way too underrated Conrad Smith in the middle field, then on the wings maybe Rockocoko, or I don't know, way too many option... :-)

@jdb9388

2 жыл бұрын

@@RogerBiwandu i know right rockocoko, or sivivatu a plethora of flying fijians

@traw1369

2 жыл бұрын

except for 11 and 7

Love Ben Smith but Christian Cullen is my favorite fullback ever.

@Alaster-

3 жыл бұрын

Cullen has a ridiculous knack of being at the right place at right time

@vantheman1244

3 жыл бұрын

Cullen was ahead of his time

@tuluvota

3 жыл бұрын

true... wicked step too

@zacharystone8817

3 жыл бұрын

since he cant be 15 but he did play 14, he is the best 14 of all time for the ABs

@WorldRugby

3 жыл бұрын

It's a close run race that's for sure isn't it?

Christian Cullen was NZs best fullback by far.

@mvubu6823

10 ай бұрын

Never played a WORLD CUP as a 15... if you can believe it.

@g0vinda54

8 ай бұрын

Not by far, but yeah just over smith

@damo9961

8 ай бұрын

Na he was bad on D, bad under the high ball - justifiably dropped for Muliana

No Christian Cullen??? Possibly one of the finest players I've seen play the game.

@canadiancontent352

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed but I'm not sure he was as consistently good as bender in black

@keirapopstar

3 жыл бұрын

Cullen, JK, Bodie, Jerry Collins, the Bus, Goldie, Naholo all missing.

@marcusd9192

3 жыл бұрын

@@canadiancontent352 Agreed. Smith was more consistent but Cullen had more raw ability. His knees and being played out if position didn't help his consistency or career. A poor hurricanes team also didn't help.

@canadiancontent352

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcusd9192 don't get me wrong Cullen was a seminal talent. And absolutely right about being played out of position, especially in 99. Also didn't have a proper 8 at that tourney, really overthinking things.

@canadiancontent352

3 жыл бұрын

The crazy thing being that Tana played on the wing, when his best position was centre, and Cullen played at 13 when his best position was 15 and Wilson played 15 when he was a wing.

Ben Smith is a tremendous 15 but C. Cullen is unforgettable. So is Zinzan Brooke at 8 !

@suphatrachaiyasit7531

2 жыл бұрын

55 year all black fan here agree with you but Michael Jones or kaino toss the coin

@mvubu6823

10 ай бұрын

Cullen never played RQC at 15... head to believe, he only played centre

I’d probably have Christian Cullen at 15, John Kirwan at 14, Conrad Smith at 13, Zinzan Brooke at 8 and Michael Jones changed the way an open side flanker plays, Carl Hayman at Prop

@tuluvota

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree... Michael Jones, JK and Zinzan ...

@mikejames1804

3 жыл бұрын

Come on mc caw is the king

@WorldRugby

3 жыл бұрын

Started tough with the All Blacks, so many legends of the game.

@andrewimms7676

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely Jk over Howlett but I’d go for BJ any day of the week. Jones at 6, and Colin meads as lock. Maybe Sid going at 9...

@TheGadfly85

3 жыл бұрын

I thought of the same changes except for Carl Hayman and would suggest Michael Jones at 6 in place of Jerome Kaino.

How is Cullen not 15? I'm South African even I know he should be there.

@seansmith9936

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate your totally right👌

@mikejames1804

2 жыл бұрын

ben Smith was more complete as player

Great line-up but with all due respect Nonu and Conrad Smith are the most dangerous pair together. But put them apart and you will see something is missing. Tana Umaga is a great player but I'll still go with a Nonu & Smith midfield combo, any day.

@Tom_McMurtry

3 жыл бұрын

@Jacobite Jones unsure about that. C Smith was a special kind of intelligent player. Umanga was amazing, but so was Conrad. Conrad in more ways perhaps to my eyes.

@Tom_McMurtry

3 жыл бұрын

@Jacobite Jones vision and setting up.plays, organising defence and defending I think Conrad better. Not just passing. Umanga better at the hits and rucks, but not overall defensive package, nor offensive package for team mates around. Conrad made the team around him shine, and was snakingly brilliant doing his own things. Deceptively so. Umanga one of the best for sure.

@jonomatuu

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

This looked like this was the modern area rugby. Frank Bunce, Jerry Collins, Christen Cullen, Michael Jones, Kronfeld. Then again, Richie McCaw is the only #7!

@peterfaalogo9587

Жыл бұрын

Michael Jones was a superior open side flanker than Richie McCaw in almost every metric.

Kieran did well at 8, but I'd rather have Zinzan Brooke. He wrote a new definition of that role

@hansoloburger2322

3 жыл бұрын

If Kieran didn’t have the head issues I think he would’ve been 1 the very best abs ever

@prof_kaos9341

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, Zinny has slotted test drop kicks, not easy ones either (England 1995).

@ianmarsden1130

2 жыл бұрын

Either Zinzan or Buck. Both way better.

@TheArchitect216

9 ай бұрын

Kieran was a good player but he was also part of a legendary team

@Miiiiiiighty

8 ай бұрын

@@ianmarsden1130 Recency bias for sure. Both Zinzan and Shelford were better

Michael Jones should feature. Also think Carl Hayman would have featured if he'd have been in more world cups as he's one of the best tightheads I've seen.

@SuperWill0909

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Hayman left NZ much too early to be considered is my guess. But good for him, he’s made a bunch of money and is set up for life.

@monke.2191

Жыл бұрын

A fine man of God

What. No. 15 is Christian Cullen. Whoever created this should not be making any more rugby lists.

@arendsmith9527

3 жыл бұрын

Amen

@otagoaerial1868

3 жыл бұрын

Agree 💯

@craigrichardson9783

3 жыл бұрын

Agree Amen

@dcaotearoa

3 жыл бұрын

No argument bro, growing up Cullen along with Lomu were my childhood heros... But Ben Smith has become one of my all time favorites, solid, dangerous and huge on defense. Respect to you mate. 💯

@seansmith9936

2 жыл бұрын

Facts he should make soccer list instead of rugby cause he doesn’t know hahaha

Turned this off as soon as I saw Christian Cullen wasn’t at fullback

They showed a Ben Franks clip for his brother.. haha

Extremely recent list. Many legends missed

@benjaminp8640

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the level has so much increased in the last twenty years that legends of the game can't compete with the actual players in terms of skills. Respect to these legends but they are no match in my opinion

@donuttime2507

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminp8640 if you go on that thinking then Jordan,Pele and Senna are not as good as current sportsmen applying there trade in 2021. Alot of 2nd division players are fitter and faster than legend's of the past so does that mean they're better?

@benjaminp8640

3 жыл бұрын

@@donuttime2507 I don't think it impact the same way in some other sports, basketball kept a insane level of performance since the 80s with only the way of playing changing a lot. But in rugby, as it became professional very late, the game wasn't developped to a greater potential, we are only seeing it now for the last 20 years whereas football, basketball, boxing, tennis etc.. where more popular and serious and so better in terms of skills I think

@donuttime2507

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjaminp8640 I take the point and this starting 15 is so subjective imo. I'm a Scotland fan so I could argue that Hogg is a better fullback than Campese? When it comes to strength and fitness and speed and skill then he would be but we all know he's not.... It's an age old argument that no-one ever wins. I'm a romantic so legend's are legends no matter the era. It's like saying the Welsh teams in the 70s would get smashed from any international side in 2021....yet the Welsh team in that era was one of the best teams to ever play the game.

@bremCZ

3 жыл бұрын

@@donuttime2507 Campese was a specialist winger. So there are plenty of players better than him at fullback.

Cullen at 15, Wilson at 14, couldn’t argue about the rest

@bif43

3 жыл бұрын

Which Wilson, Goldie or stu

@shanowilliams9851

3 жыл бұрын

kirwin on the right..lomu on the left..2 best ever

Yep...Cullen at fullback hands down.

@hansoloburger2322

3 жыл бұрын

Mills is so over looked

Even with many legends missing, this is still a scary team.

This is the team of recent times as judged by a young English person. Olo Brown, Colin Meads, Jerry Collins, Buck Shelford, Sid Going, Frank Bunce, Brian Williams, and Christian Cullen to name just a few you missed...

@RBv195

3 жыл бұрын

Michael Jones, John Kirwin ....

@johnnyc5765

2 жыл бұрын

I hope they are on the bench.

@gjpyoung

2 жыл бұрын

Bruce Robertson, Graeme Mourie....

@michaelericksen4269

Жыл бұрын

@@RBv195 as good as jones was and he was great you going to pick him over McCaw?

@MrAhuapai

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelericksen4269 he would be a possibility at 6

You can tell this was made by a foreigner

Ben Smith is awesome player but Christian Cullen is the best✨

What do you think of this line up? Which players would you add to the bench? Let us know in the comments below!

@Saiyan4eva

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome team the problem is The All Blacks have had so many great players over the decades it's hard to pick just one team I could pick three quality All Blacks sides of all time and a fourth and all four be genuine great sides

@default5790

3 жыл бұрын

Christian Cullen definitely gets that No.15 over Ben Smith. I would’ve have Michael Jones and Colin Meads in there also.

@jollyrider3175

3 жыл бұрын

@@default5790 Ben Smith is a one man backline..

@davidpeters3857

11 ай бұрын

So difficult,all legends,Christian Cullen just ahead of the legendary Ben Smith,Carl Hayman surely has to start,Sir MJ & Zinny over Richie and Reado big call

@ferenzijnvrienden9104

7 ай бұрын

bauden barret

As a football fan as well, it's fitting that Dan Carter was a number 10. As a Bok fan, the AB's are the greatest team of all time, which is why playing them is always an important match for us, regardless if we're losing the tournament or the series, there's no meaningless match against NZ.

@richardmatatahi4563

Жыл бұрын

Mate I agree, no game is meaningless between the Springbok's & All Blacks, Springbok's have a habit of bringing us crashing to earth. We never take you guys lively.

Also wow this clip makes 1 miss Jerome Kaino, his presence and how much NZ miss someone so athletic and brutally strong is underrated

@MKRM27

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha. Funny

This is why the AB's all time XV is so hard to pick. So many legends in the same positions.

You guys should’ve made a before 2007 and after 2007 teams because I’d put all my money for the post 2007 team to be better lmao

@EverlastingPraiseLIVE

3 жыл бұрын

Pre 2007 ABs had star players but it was all individual skills. Post 2007 ABs was an unstoppable machine with 2 world cups and the best record wins of any team or era of the history of the game.

Could you imagine Jonah on one wing and John Kirwan on the other? Unstoppable.

@zabaleta66

3 жыл бұрын

@Poua Kai Even moreso, 83 to 86 Kirwan! He was simply incredible!!

Here's my picks😂 Microphone DROP ⬇️🎤⬇️ *Greatest AB 1st 15* 1. Tony Woodcock 2. Sean Fitzpatrick 3. Olo Brown 4. Colin Meads 5. Brodie Retalick 6. Jerry Collins 7. Ritchie McCaw 8. Zinzane Brooke 9. Aaron Smith 10. Dan Carter 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Ma'a Nonu 13. Frank Bunce 14. Doug Howlett 15. Christian Cullen *Greatest AB 2nd 15* 1. Carl Hayman 2. Dane Coles 3. Owen Franks 4. Sam Whitelock 5. Brad Thorn 6. Jerome Kaino 7. Michael Jones 8. Buck Shelford 9. Sid Going 10. Grant Fox 11. Joe Rokococo 12. Tana Umaga 13. Conrad Smith 14. John Kirwan 15. Ben Smith *Greatest AB 3rd 15* 1. Ken Gray 2. Kevin Mealamu 3. Wilson Whineray 4. Robin Brooke 5. Ian Jones 6. Waka Nathan 7. Josh Kronfeild 8. Kieran Read 9. Justin Marshall 10. Andrew Mertains 11. Julian Savea 12. Joe Stanley 13. Walter Little 14. Jeff Wilson 15. Mils Muliaina *Greatest Māori AB 15* 1. Joe Moody 2. Dane Coles 3. Carl Hayman 4. Robin Brooke 5. Waka Nathan 6. Zinzane Brooke 7. Daniel Braid 8. Buck Shelford 9. Piri Weepu 10. Carlos Spenser 11. Hosea Gear 12. Luke McCalister 13. Rua Tipoki 14. Rico Gear 15. Israel Dagg *Greatest Polynesian ABs* 1. John Afoa 2. Kevin Mealamu 3. Olo Brown 4. Sione Lauaki 5. Rodney Soialo 6. Jerome Kaino 7. Ardie Savea 8. Jerry Colins 9. Graeme Bachop 10. Richie Mo'unga 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Ma'a Nonu 13. Tana Umaga 14. Julian Savea 15. Mils Muliaina

@OyeaAlliyea

3 жыл бұрын

Very extensive 15s squad right here 🙌🏽

@gumbootcity_nz8453

3 жыл бұрын

@@OyeaAlliyea thanks. I'm genuinely interested in everybody else's picks? So go ahead 😁

@gumbootcity_nz8453

3 жыл бұрын

@Poua Kai nice!! Kees Muews, Craig Dowd, Billy Bush, Glen Osborne, Taine Randall, Jono Gibbs, George Nepia, Berryman, Reihana. So many....

@ucesaftf9383

3 жыл бұрын

Chris masoe over ardie savea? Charles piutau over julian savea? John afoa over ofa tuugafasi? Lol what are you smoking mate

@Navigator_Isle

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I would have put Graeme Bachop ahead of Augustine pulu 🤷🏽‍♂️

As much as I love The Snake Conrad Smith Frank Bunce was just a beast.

When you leave out Christian Cullen, Frank Bunce, Zinzan and Ian Jones, not to mention Michael Jones have to assume the list was compiled by someone in their late twenties early thirties tops

Okay so they have to change the title, this is a top all blacks team at world cups, otherwise C Cullen over B Smith and Zinny would be over Read What is weird is that they had Tana over C Smith but Tana was injured for 03 and we didnt have a good 99 campaign Also when they mentioned Owen Franks and showed footage of his brother😀 Also Olo Brown and to a degree C Dowd would have claims for props, based on the 95 world cup alone

@candycain2327

3 жыл бұрын

@@Navigator_Isle i know brother, i basically meant that the title is misleading, its world cup performances, otherwise where's pinetree😀

Watching this video initially I thought they were only talking about players in the year 2000 onward until Sean Fitzpatrick is mentioned. Met him once, what a player.

And here's another XV to take them on 1. Steve McDowell 2. Kevin Mealamu 3. Karl Hayman 4. Ian Jones 5. Gary Whetton 6. Zinzan Brooke 7. Michael Jones 8. Wayne Shelford 9. David Kirk 10. Beauden Barrett 11. Julian Savea 12. Frank Bunce 13. Conrad Smith 14. John Kirwan 15. Christian Cullen

@colemanpeni3756

2 жыл бұрын

15': Cullen 14: Kirwin 13: Osborne 12: Nonu 11: Lomu 10: Carter 09: Smith 08: Buck 07: McCaw 06: Jones 05: Retalick 04: Whetton 03: Mcdowld 02: Fitzpatrick 01: Brown.

@SteadyPlaying

8 ай бұрын

@@colemanpeni3756 Great XV there, I agree with pretty much every position except 13. Deinitely a lot better than the team in the video in terms of all time greats.

Maybe I’m bias but I take Cullen

@tukotukuhepi7376

3 жыл бұрын

i agree cullen is the best ever not just AB and thats no slight on b.smith who is a amazing fullback

@candycain2327

3 жыл бұрын

Not bias bro, intelligent😀

@kiwisaraphim6622

3 жыл бұрын

Cullen sucked on defense and the high ball compared to smith

@dimitricaras8249

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a valid argument but to be fair Ben Smith is by far the best nz player taking the high ball ever

@theephraimite

3 жыл бұрын

@@kiwisaraphim6622 stop making up stuff. Cullen was just as good as Ben was on defense and under the high ball. The difference is Cullen was the faster and better runner with a step.

I’m in the states, don’t completely understand all the rules but: man this is an exciting game! Awesome clip

@oramonika9758

3 жыл бұрын

I'm a Kiwi watching the MLR highlights for a country "New" to rugby American is a scary prospect for the future

@RMGCBG

3 жыл бұрын

@@oramonika9758 there’s college & pro rugby teams here. Just doesn’t get proper coverage. It’s like our football without pads & helmets. Cool by me

@RMGCBG

3 жыл бұрын

@@oramonika9758 and I sincerely hope that wasn’t a dig. Not nice if it was

@oramonika9758

3 жыл бұрын

@@RMGCBG wow! My apologies if it came out as such but in no way was I being sarcastic. I meant every word. One of my favorite All Black's of all time Ma'a Nonu is playing in the MLR for the San Diego Legion that's why I stated watching.

@RMGCBG

3 жыл бұрын

@@oramonika9758 thank you for clarifying that. Quite honorable. Sports should unite the world

Yeah there’s plenty of debate to be had here, but just think - if someone suggested this as an all time world XV (pro era) you wouldn’t say it was all that ridiculous. Sure, you’d debate most of the positions and want to make 10 changes or so...but no other nation’s all time XV would come close to being called a world XV too.

11 players from the 2015 rwc proves how good we were, defiantly was our prime

@digitaldemocracyai-rob

2 жыл бұрын

Or how biased the selection was towards modern players

@dermotosullivan3065

Жыл бұрын

.....or that some people have short memories

Christian Cullen was on a different level on his own angles he ran was unbelievable and also Mills milliena would be 2nd pick reliable fast pace solid fullback hardly ever made mistakes

@PatstarDeluxe

Жыл бұрын

Mils never gets the respect he deserves. He was great in attack but people overlook how solid he was at defence.

@mvubu6823

10 ай бұрын

Cullen never played 15 at a WORLD CUP... which is unbelievable but true

Ben Smith was a great fullback, but not picking Cullen is an unforgivable sin. Friday - May 7, 2021.

@monke.2191

Жыл бұрын

Allen Hughson

Only three on this list need no discussion. Lomu, Carter and Mcaw. Fitzy would be close but the rest need some serious debate. Oh and the irony of putting Umanga at 13 (he was very good there), but showing him wearing 14 in most of the clips.

@DolanTrain

3 жыл бұрын

I’d say there’s no discussion also for Retallick and Whitelock probably the greatest lock duo ever.

@robjolly2460

3 жыл бұрын

@@DolanTrain Colin Meads ahead of Sam

@kudzai6131

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@anthonini66

2 жыл бұрын

Imho he was best at 12

That Kaino stop on Digby is still legendary to date!!!

It's always hard to pick a team like this. However, I remember once being told by an All Black captain, that when choosing the team you should start with the team that won the NPC. Then figure out if there's someone better to replace them. I know he's not a selector or coach. But it's a solid approach, as a champion team can often beat a team of champions. Most of these players were in the two back to back teams that won World Cups. So by default, it's the perfect place to start. Then find someone who is worthy to replace them. Given no other All Black teams won back to back World Cups that becomes difficult to justify if someone else is better. We all have favourites from the past, and there is no prefect result in this situation, but this is not a bad start.

An AB’s team put together by the sort of person that has a tik tok type of worldview. The greats go way back.

@sebp3249

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I guess for you, the 2008-2015 ABs were the greatest you guys have ever been. So can't argue with this side at all.

@biggest23

3 жыл бұрын

@@sebp3249 ....Thanks tiktok, your contribution has been noted.

@sebp3249

3 жыл бұрын

@@biggest23 Aside from maybe B Smith and Cullen who would you swap out? And I hate tik tok mate, im only 21 though.

@johndykes8042

2 жыл бұрын

Corey jane had more skill that spme of the other wingers from the 2015 team his fend,taking the high ball never missed he could fend off the attacker and kick in field at the same time so underrated because he wasn't flashy like jk or brutal like jonah ,meads set the standard for locks and will always be in my team jones instead of kino for obvious reason,s buck shelford for pure passion and captain don Clarke who single handed won the test for New Zealand scoring all 18 points in 1966 when the lions scored 3 tries bruce Robinson for centre all through the seventies automatic choice big tall athletic the rest are all good

@jdb9388

2 жыл бұрын

@@sebp3249 doug howlet, do you know how many good wingers we have had, thats like owning a fleet of exotic sports cars and picking a tesla, shes fast and stable but boring as all f

Couldn't agree more. What a formidable 15!

Cullen fullback, John Kirwan Right Wing. Michael Jones a must. And of course Zinzan. I also rated Justin Marshall at 9 very highly. Debatable tho.

@grobariza

8 ай бұрын

Marshall for me slightly better

Pretty close but not quite there. Good effort though just a bit rushed perhaps with some of the info being a bit off. A cool video nonetheless, too much class in the ABs for anyone to truly nail a top 15. My other contenders for spots in the team: Mils Muliaina Kevin Mealamu Christian Cullen Beauden Barrett Jerry Collins Brad Thorn

@dariuswebb

3 жыл бұрын

You saying beauden over DC?

@Jordan-ws6jy

3 жыл бұрын

@@dariuswebb nope, I mentioned BB as a contender. Can't look passed winners of world player of the year awards.

@dariuswebb

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan-ws6jy you can when the person in front of him is Dan Carter. Not even close.

@Jordan-ws6jy

3 жыл бұрын

@@dariuswebb you have to consider BB, as is is foolish not to. I said he is a contender meaning someone who is in contention for a placement. Not guaranteed

@hansoloburger2322

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan-ws6jy only person apart from me I’ve seen mention mils I’d seriously consider him over Smith an Cullen

Jerry Collins would have a think to say about that 6 jersey.

@VIBESKONNECT

3 жыл бұрын

Hundred.

@CG-or1re

3 жыл бұрын

both are legends but I'd take kaino

The two best AB sides I ever witnessed were the 1996 NZ vs Australia at Athletic Park and the 2015 RWC final teams. Both teams had world class individuals in all positions.

Can’t wait for the Rugby World Cup 2023

Some tough, tough picks. At number 8, you've got Jerry Collins, Buck Shelford and Zinzan Brooke. Kronfeld and Michael Jones at open side. Wow.

Haha, number of tries doesn’t”t make a player great. Howlett was fast and ran good lines but he had no step or fend. I’d go with Kirwan or Wilson.

@g0vinda54

2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t need them? 😉

@g0vinda54

2 жыл бұрын

@@speeddemon9555 wingers should be judged on both more than just that fella…

@g0vinda54

2 жыл бұрын

@@speeddemon9555 Lomu is the perfect example yes, he’d be in 99% of most people’s world ever elevens, and that kinda puts that argument to bed son 🤝

@g0vinda54

2 жыл бұрын

@@speeddemon9555 sure they are 😎

Cullen at 15, Kirwan at 14 and Conrad Smith at 13 with his partnership with Ma'a at 12. Zinzan Brooke at number 8 with Brad Thorn at 5 partnering with Brodie Retallick at 4. Everyone else is fine.

@PatstarDeluxe

Жыл бұрын

It's hard for me between Smith and Nonu as centres or Little and Bunce. Both combinations were amazing. But I'd definitely have Smith over Umaga. As for Thorn in the second row..... not sure. I think Whitelock and Retallick are great, but so were Ian Jones and Robin Brooke, and I think Chris Jack doesn't get the love he deserves

@BoyNNova

6 ай бұрын

YEAH THATS RIGHT MCCAW IS GOOD

Not in total agreement, but it does really just show how dominant the 2015 team was

Nice Professional era All Blacks Team but I'd add a few more old faces - think these guys would give them a run for their money (added a few reserves): Backs: Christian Cullen/George Nepia, John Kirwan/Jeff Wilson, Conrad Smith/Frank Bunce, Bruce Robertson/Bert Cooke, Bryan Williams, Fred Allen/Andrew Mehrtens, Graeme Bachop/Sid Going Forwards: BJ Lohore/Zinzan Brooke, Michael Jones, Ian Kirkpatrick/Kel Tremain, Colin Meads, Ian Jones, Carl Hayman/Olo Brown, Wilson Whineray/Dane Coles, Ken Gray/Kevin Skinner

Wow. Stuff up on 15 14 and 13. It should be Cullen, Kirwan and Bunce. 😊

As a Munster fan, howlett is my favourite

Cool thing is many of these boys play(ed) together! What an era.

@monke.2191

Жыл бұрын

You never forget your team mates.

Cullen fullback although smith is so bloody close behind! I’d actually put smith at 14 ahead of howlett and Conrad Smith at 13!

@WorldRugby

3 жыл бұрын

Would've been hard to leave out the top try scorer! But it's sooo close!

@gdavies4

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think you can leave Howlett out. I think Smith has a WC title whereas Cullen doesn't but I'd still take Cullen.

@guesswho6925

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdavies4 true howletts try against England where he smokes jason Robinson for pace was pretty impressive! JK was no mug either

What a class act the all blacks are !!! Every game you watch is pure rugby at its best !! Jonah Luma a man mountain RIP man you where legend who left to soon

Great team. Only changes I'd make is shift Ben Smith to right wing and bring in Christian Cullen, and have Zinzan on instead of Read

@WorldRugby

3 жыл бұрын

Good shout, it's so close between so many positions

It's fun to think what that team would do to everyone's . Greetings from Argentina .

Christian Cullen and John Kirwin were at a different level than Smith and Doug Howlett. Also Although Koran Reid was a great player, ZinZan Brooke’s skill level and impact on a game was greater.

So apart from 4 All Blacks you basically picked the 2011 and 2015 teams. Here's a few to remind you that there are so much more worthy, Sid Going, George Nepia, Colin Meads, Buck Shelford, Jerry Collins, John Kirwan, David Kirk, BG Williams. I could go on. Not really THE greatest team, but a bloody good one.

I know everyone loves Cullen, and he's great, don't get me wrong.... but there's never love for Mils. He was a great fullback. But either of those 3. Personally, I would've gone with Conrad Smith for 13, and mabe Grame Bachop for halfback. Otherwise, that's a good back line. The forward picks here though...... Ian Jones, Chris Jack, Robin Brooke.... they were amazing, with Jones and Brooke being the pioneers of mobile locks and Jack taking it to another level. Happy for Fitzpatrick as he created the hooker on the wing-style. Hmmmm, mostly good choices though

And Beauden Barrett ?

Fantastic video thank you. FYI In one shot, Ben Franks is shown instead of Owen Franks. And Tana Umaga won 18 of 21 as captain, not 19 of 21.

How does Umaga beat out Conrad Smith?! He was one half of the greatest centre partnership NZ has ever had!

@mruv5944

3 жыл бұрын

I love Conrad, but that’s recency bias lol Umaga was literally one of the best players in the world while he was in his prime

@Tom_McMurtry

3 жыл бұрын

@@mruv5944 so was conrad. Probs the best 13 of the last decade and he only played in half of it!

@matteich81

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Umaga certainly was somewhat of a personality, but in my view, people seem to forget the bad stuff. I remember him dropping a staggering amount of ball.

@mruv5944

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tom_McMurtry Conrad was never at any time regarded as a Top 10 player in the world. Umaga from 01-06 was.

@mruv5944

3 жыл бұрын

@@matteich81 that’s weird because his hands were one of his best assets. Intercepts, offloads, long passes were a staple in his game. I think the only thing Conrad did better was defend and even that’s close

Side note: I knew some of this list would be an eyeroll as soon as it started with Ben Smith over Christian Cullen 😂🙄🤐 yes Ben Smith did win a world cup and a super rugby title and played more positions but still lol

Lomu, Cullen and Ben Smith back 3 for me. Corey Jane was a seriously underrated AB 14. Ok didn’t score as many tries as Howlett, but was rock solid under the high ball, best left fend hand off and won a RWC winner’s medal. Sam Whitelock standing at 6” 4? Thought he was 6” 7. Shame Carl Hayman chose to cut his AB career short. He was the ideal tight head. Better than Owen Franks. I would love to see who would win between the RWC 1995 finalists team (with Michael Jones at 6) and 2015 RWC winning team. My All time AB 23. As too many great players to just have 15: 1. Woodcock 2. Fitzpatrick 3. Hayman 4. Rettalick 5. Whitelock 6. M. Jones 7. McCaw 8. Brooke 9. Smith 10. Carter 12. Nonu 13. Smith 11. Lomu 15. Cullen 14. B Smith. 16. Coles (special mention to Mealamu for longevity). 17. Dowd 18. Brown 19. Kaino 20. Read 21. Marshall 22. B. Barrett 23. SBW.

@cyborgwalker

3 жыл бұрын

No reserve lock eh? Remember Kaino playing lock vs Ireland in the US? I'd throw Brad Thorne on that bench if I were you.

@badabing8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyborgwalker No reserve lock on the 2015 RWC team. Victor Vito played in the 19 shirt and they relied on Rettallick and Whitelock to go 80 and Kaino to cover lock if need be. Read more than good enough as a middle jumper.

My AB's Lineup: 1. Tony Woodcock 2. Dane Coles 3. Joe Moody 4. Brodie Retallick 5. Sir Micheal Jones 6. Jerome Kaino 7. Josh Kronfield (He's a Beast) 8. Zinzan Brooke 9. Justin Marshall 10. Dan Carter 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Ma'a Nonu 13. Tana Umaga 14. Jeff Wilson 15. Cristian Cullen.

Brilliant

And to think Jonah Lomu was playing sick for a few years. Jonah would of been honoured to be included in any legendary All Blacks side and probably would of rated some of the outstanding Fijian Wingers to be in his place as well etc etc.

@baileygilbert4766

3 жыл бұрын

And imagine LOMU was not sick, man that is terrifying if LOMU was at full fitness 🤯.

11,10, and 7 are the only positions without debate. I love Ben Smith and think he is the right choice, but man Cullen was my favourite.

Will be smashed my the ultimate Bom lineup

Here's my list before watching the video. 1. Tony Woodcock 2. Sean Fitzpatrick(C) 3. Carl Hayman 4. Brodie Retalick 5. Colin Meads 6. Jerome Kaino 7. Richie McCaw 8. Zinzan Brooke 9. Aaron Smith 10. Daniel Carter 11. Jonah Lomu 12. Ma'a Nonu 13. Frank Bunce 14. Doug Howlett 15. Christian Cullen And the players who are undoubtedly the best in their positions ever are: 7. Richie Mccaw (Also the greatest rugby player in history) 10. Daniel Carter 11. Jona Lomu

Assuming this is for the World Cup era; I think BenSmith was a great fullback but Cullen was just such special player - I’d pick Cullen at fullback. Michael Jones vs Kaino vs Jerry Collins - I’d pick Michael Jones. I’d also have Kirwan instead of Howlett. Umaga vs Conrad Smith vs Frank Bunce - I’d pick Smith, his combination with Nonu was the best centre combo for years. Zinzan Brooke instead of K Read but only just. I’d have Carl Hayman in the front row as well - then there was Olo Brown. So many legends of the game.

I’m with most comments Cullen for sure, Sid going over smith, meads and Kirkpatrick just legends but really there are so many AB’s that could play in this team you’d have to make at least 10 teams to fill the greatest teams ever!

@monke.2191

Жыл бұрын

Cowboy mark reid

Tight between Read and Zinzan Brooke (always handy to have a no. 8 who can drop kick a goal from "a million miles out" on the right-hand side of the field near halfway); and also tight between Cullen and Smith but Cullen is my sentimental favourite. I think Howlett was given a lot more space more than he created too. Still a great player but...

@johnnyc5765

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, I remembered those Zinzan Brooke drop kick. I never thought a No.8 could do such a thing until I saw him do it. This is why I would edge him over Read.

15. Christian cullen 14. Doug howlett 13. Conrad smith 12. Maa Nonu 11. Jona lomu 10. Daniel carter 9. Aaron smith 8. Buck shelford 7. Richie McCaw (C) 6. Jerome Kaino 5. Sam Whitelock 4. Brodie Retalick 3. Owen franks 2. Dane coles 1. Carl hayman Coach: Steve Hansen

Can't quibble with most of these but wonder if Fitzpatrick would hang tough in the modern game ...

@erictan9512

3 жыл бұрын

Wen. Ruion rion. Vion. Aurtiland. Ruion

@shadowbanned5164

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer Mealamu over Fitzy but both were top players.

Ahh NZers fav pub pastime convo. Although there will always be disagreements, probably a lot more people would have Christian Cullen over Ben Smith at FB. (Not to take anything away from Ben Smith, but Christian Cullen has a claim for best ever FB in the world let alone NZ) Agree with rest of backline. In the forwards, there are a lot of modern picks. A lot of people would claim Zinzan over Read. Obviously playing in such different eras. Also they put Michael Jones at 6 to get Both Jones and Ritchie in the same team. Overall great team tho!

Я полюбил рагби смотря Олл Блэкс, браво!!!

Sorry but this misses out all the legends that went before. Great team but not the ultimate All Blacks for that reason.

@Trajan2401

3 жыл бұрын

Yes for example Colin Meads would make the list if it was alltime.

I'm not done - Tana, Dan Ritchie, but the big man with a bigger heart Jonah - man those All Blacks

Here's a suggestion, an all black second XV to give a probables v possible game or alternatively North v South

The fact that only four players weren't at the 2015 rec shows how good the all blacks were in that tournament

So many great All black wings hard to choose. Dan Carter is the G.O.A.T

I'm a bok guy, but I had (briefly) forgotten just how sensational some of these All Blacks were!!

And Jerry Collins? Piri Weepu? Whatever, great vídeo. Will You do they same with other selections? Because that would be great! Greetings from Argentina.

@cordlxze9559

3 жыл бұрын

Aaron easily better

@zacharystone8817

3 жыл бұрын

no way piri weepu will make it over aaron smith. aaron smith is the greatest all black halfback

@WorldRugby

3 жыл бұрын

Hopefully we will be looking to do more, but after how hard this was, it'll only get harder 🤣

@jjohnnyNOZ

3 жыл бұрын

weepu better than aaron smith? come on mate hehe

@brutaldeathgrind1

3 жыл бұрын

@@jjohnnyNOZ Byron Kelleher, do you know him, son? Jajaja.

3:15 "Not a gentle tackle." This was in the 1995 World Cup semi-final. Tony Underwood, a young man with a high opinion of his abilities, stated during the week before the game that he was going to show Lomu how to be a wing. My own thought was that Underwood was going to find that difficult, while lying flat on his face, watching Lomu run away from him. Which is exactly what happened. Several times...

@johnnyc5765

2 жыл бұрын

It got Tony a pizza ad though. hehe

They should have included a bench just to put the likes of Cullen, Barrett, Zinny etc

@WorldRugby

3 жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@theephraimite

3 жыл бұрын

Cullen doesn’t belong on the bench. He should be a first-choice 15.

8. Zinzan Brooke and 15. Christian Cullen should of been named in the starting line up.

@monke.2191

Жыл бұрын

Johna Lomu

Also, could you do Straya or Springboks

It's one of those fascinating conundrums, no one is wrong with their own picks 👍🏾 Me: Michael Jones ahead of Richie, Frank Bunce ahead of Tana, Christian Cullen ahead of Ben Smith, Va'aigaTuigamala ahead of Dougie but in the 14 jersey 😁 ...but hey 🤎

15.Christian Cullen 23.Ben Smith

1 - Tony Woodcock 2 - Sean Fitzpatrick 3- Olo Brown 4- Ian Jones 5- Colin Meads 6- Michael Jones 7- Richie MaCaw (c) 8- Zinzan Brooke 9- Sid Going 10- Dan Carter 11- Jonah Lomu 12- Ma'a Nonu 13- Frank Bunce 14- Jeff Wilson 15- Christian Cullen Bench 16- Carl Hayman 17- Dane Coles 18- Ken Grey 19- Sam Whitelock 20- Ardie Savea 21- Aaron Smith 22- Beauden Barrett 23- Tana Umaga honorable mentions Buck Shelford, John Kirwan, Jerry Collins, George Nepia, Ian Kirkpatrick, Kel Tremain, Kieran Read, Justin Marshall, Conrad Smith, Brian Lochore

8:25 you've got the wrong Franks brother

@TT-yr6kt

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly right I noticed that too

in my opinion, people are choosing Cullen over Smith cause of all his flashy tries, probably the best individual tries ever, but they are not counting all the hard work off and on the ball that Ben did, he rarely missed tackles, kicked decently, he'd never loose in the air, he had a sick offloading game, and he always knew when to attack and when not to, in my eyes he was the ultimate fullback, hands down.

@brucefale6132

3 жыл бұрын

Love them both but I agree with you. Smith slightly outshines Cullen because of his Mr. Reliable aura.

Some puzzling selections here. What about Christian Cullen, Michael Jones, Ian Kirkpatrick, zinzan Brooke and the first name that should always be the first selection for ever, the great Colin meads

No Cullen ? That can’t be right !! Best ever.