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@JumperTV33

Ай бұрын

Baby steps. Master the Discord with your paying patrons before opening it up to everyone else.

@ChrisHallbeck

Ай бұрын

@@JumperTV33 I have too many followers to have a public Discord. This is gonna remain a Patreon subscriber thing. 👍

@thedotgiver2820

Ай бұрын

. (👍)

@bozhidarmihaylov

Ай бұрын

Both doors lead to one server 😊

@BAWK1000mega

29 күн бұрын

@@ChrisHallbeckhey you will probably not see this but if you do then I think that people may subscribe join the cancel it, what would you do? You may be fine with them doing that because you still gain at least 2 bucks but I’m just an over thinker. I would subscribe to it and I would love to join the server but I have too many subscriptions lol. If you read this thank you!

The twist is they're both lying, but one door is lying to the adventurer and the other is lying to themself.

@pedroivog.s.6870

Ай бұрын

One has self-esteem issues

@thecustodian1023

Ай бұрын

Reality has entered the chat.

@albertobey13

Ай бұрын

It was obvious because they both are saying the same thing, yet one of them is lieing?

@putsunny69

Ай бұрын

One of them tells truth (not always) other always lies so its probably impossible to solve this puzzlel

@cozy_chrysocyon7019

Ай бұрын

LMAO

But anyway, i died laughing at how they just casually keep talking after our Adventurer plummets to his death.

@izme1000

Ай бұрын

Me too

@Normal_user_coniven

Ай бұрын

He didn't die. Why will someone walk into a hole or whatever killing method is behind when you can see while openning the door? He was just asking which door is for men toilet, they say: "it doesn't matter. Both are toilets", then he entered the females one, and a woman sreamemed.

@Dont-jy5ox

Ай бұрын

Now I got why the right door said "we both lead to the same place", because both lead to the toilet but with little difference.

@albertgrasser6421

Ай бұрын

​@Normal_user_coniven 😂❤❤

@jw8160

Ай бұрын

@@Normal_user_coniven 😂 👍 x 1,000

Oh, I know this one! The trick is to ask one door, if the other one has put on any weight recently. That way they either lie and get called out for it, or they tell the truth and have a big fight over it and you just walk through while they're distracted.

@molybdaen11

Ай бұрын

Now I am afrait to ask what doors could eat to gain weight 😢.

@sorreldislikespotatoes9882

Ай бұрын

@molybdaen11 Wood

@fluffsquirrel

Ай бұрын

@@molybdaen11Don't doors eat anything that walks through them? Wait, that would mean every room is a stomach. A double stomach on either side in offices. Wow this is actually a scary thought experiment, I'm done. Doors don't eat.

@lucky7bolt456

Ай бұрын

K, what if it doesn’t work because they don’t care… they doors waiting for someone for who knows how long… Acting like it doesn’t matter would be childsplay

@fluffsquirrel

Ай бұрын

@@lucky7bolt456 Well I mean you could also just not walk through the doors. Only the adventurer protagonist has the choices, the poor doors are stuck there indefinitely.

I love the idea that before they came up with the puzzle, they were just two enchanted doors without any kind of gimmick, greeting adventurers and inviting them inside.

@whome9842

Ай бұрын

It gets boring when you can't go anywhere and don't even have arms to play.

@izekmon6854

27 күн бұрын

"Ring my doorbell"

Huh, Yugioh did a subversion like this once. Turned out both of them were lying, but just not always and the whole riddle was just a trap.

@wolffriendinus

Ай бұрын

Lol I thought of that show too. It was when he n Joey had to face the paradox brothers on the island

@nyotamwuaji6484

Ай бұрын

Samurai Jack did that too

@bobmcguffin5706

Ай бұрын

It's almost impossible in puzzles like this to prove that either one isn't actually a mixed bag of truth and lies. It's nearly always a possibility

@leyrua

Ай бұрын

​@@nyotamwuaji6484 You beat me to it. 😂

@KyleCorbeau

Ай бұрын

@@bobmcguffin5706 "does 1+1=2" Pretty simple if they actually follow the rules of 1 tells only truths and one tells only lies. But if they both tell truths and lies, then they're just normal ass people and just needed to be treated as such. I mean who believes some rando off the street that says " _I_ only tell truths" at face value? 😅

There are three guards. One of them tells the truth, one lies and the third wacks you on the head if you ask weird questions.

@xn85d2

Ай бұрын

I cast fireball.

@user-ef4qi8ik6m

25 күн бұрын

does any of the guards whack you on the head if you ask wierd questions?

@tomsthefish2002

22 күн бұрын

which head? ;) *gets bonked*

@Digganob590

21 күн бұрын

@@user-ef4qi8ik6m Best answer, so it seems.

@LordTyph

18 күн бұрын

What even qualifies as weird though?

The way I always used to try n figure these riddles out when I was younger😭😭

@paperstrawsYT

Ай бұрын

sameee

@Ultranger

Ай бұрын

The correct question to ask is “Which door would the other door say is the way to the treasure/the way forward/whatever the prize is?” And then whatever they say, choose the opposite. If the door is lying, then they will say the opposite of whatever the truthful door says. If the door tells the truth, they will tell you the lying door’s lie.

@GameCatastrophe

Ай бұрын

But the real Merlee was just the one covered in toilet water.

@AZSprocket

Ай бұрын

​@@UltrangerSamurai Jack tried this once with a talking two headed serpent. Turns out both were liars.

@theendofthestart8179

Ай бұрын

@@AZSprocket "When does the magic begin" :D ... ... ... "there is no magic is there?" ):

So the first door is the one lying.

@woodsy4698

Ай бұрын

If the first one is lying, so is the second

@jlsscreations7523

Ай бұрын

I think your correct, the first door was the one to say "One of us tells the truth" which is a lie

@LycanDreams9159

Ай бұрын

@@jlsscreations7523 yea but the second door said they both lead to the same place so both doors was a trap?

@Fungo4

Ай бұрын

I think the first door was telling the truth (the can't see what's on the other side) and the second was lying (they DON'T lead to the same place) but the first door was the incorrect choice.

@jlsscreations7523

Ай бұрын

@@LycanDreams9159 They said "One of us tells the truth, and the other always lies" it was never said that the other will always tell the truth

if the first one says "one of us tells the truth" and the other says "the other always lies" that implies a paradox to where both statements are equally possibly invalid.

@pedrolmlkzk

Ай бұрын

Not really, one of them may lie and rhe other always lies or one of them always tells the truth amd the other doesn't always lie

@exodus_6657

Ай бұрын

yeah, no. depends on where is the negative. on the one (none or both), the truth (lie) and the other (me or none). this way the statements have no logic meaning because is ambiguous edit: so can be said without any consideration to being truth or not. edit2: it can be also a command! edit3: if you say that the negative goes on the truth or lies, it can be said without any paradox. ot having "none always lies", but tha play goes way

@godaistudios

Ай бұрын

Not at all. If we start with that, we already know the first door is the truth teller. The second door will always lie about the truth teller, and will say that the truth teller (the other) always lies. Determining that, you can ask the first door which the safe route is.

@pirobot668beta

Ай бұрын

"one of us tells the truth" is a true statement...something the Liar is incapable of doing.

@zmortis111

Ай бұрын

If both doors are actually liars, the problem is accepting their initial false premise.

One tells truth and the other tells lies, eh? "Hey bucketheads, what's two plus two?"

@jojojo9240

Ай бұрын

so which door you gonna pick

@JannPoo

Ай бұрын

Finding out who's lying is easy, finding out which is the right door is the issue, as long as you're only allowed one question.

@Statsy10

Ай бұрын

Actually that's an astonishingly easy solution. Nobody said you can only ask one question, so just establish which door tells the truth with an easy math question and then ask him if he is the safe door.

@ConvenientLamp

Ай бұрын

​@@Statsy10 "you may ask one question" though

@Statsy10

Ай бұрын

@@ConvenientLamp Oh, you're right. Dang!

U don’t need to ask a question. Open a door to see what’s inside. If it’s the wrong door then close it and go through the other door. They don’t have arms they can’t hurt you.

@sea-envy3137

Ай бұрын

congratulations you opened the door that kills you when you open it.

@danese1636

28 күн бұрын

@@sea-envy3137 Spring-trapped spear door

@elanasilverman4468

28 күн бұрын

See, thos is EXACTLY why doors hate a smarty pants/individual capable of any critical thinking whatsoever.

@wholestick5986

23 күн бұрын

@@sea-envy3137 while opening the door stay behind it as cover

@nathanielbass771

23 күн бұрын

well, the thing about the riddle is that the trap happens only after you go through it. Whether it's an infinite maze or a deadly calamity, the person doesn't find out until it's too late

In the words of a wise Green: "You can't trust either of them."

If anyone's curious and doesn't know, the question to ask this riddle would be "Where would the other door tell me to go into?" and then pick the opposite path. Truth door would tell you the liar would go in the Doom door, and the liar will tell you to go to the "Success" door but he's lying so he'll also point to the Doom door!

@Lukashoffmann94

Ай бұрын

Only if you assume the riddle itself to be true, but in this case there are many technicalities due to which the normal solution wouldn’t necessarily work.

@honeybree03

Ай бұрын

The doors can't point...they have no arms!

@Statsy10

Ай бұрын

Thank you. I've been trying to figure this out since 1986. They actually give the explanation in Labyrinth, but it goes by too quickly and I never understand it. 😂

@Jikkuryuu

Ай бұрын

That's the right technique, but it's important to also specify the outcome you want. We tend to associate truth with good and lies with evil but the "truth door" doesn't inherently want you to live/succeed. "Which door would the other door tell me [is safe/leads to the castle]" May work better, lest one end up like that fellow in the video! 😊

@lucky7bolt456

Ай бұрын

Ok. But what if the liar tells you the safe door is the liar door And then the safe door tells you that the liar door would not be lying So then the safe door just made the liar door the truth door because If the liar lied when he lied but the safe door told the truth saying the liar door isn’t lying That the safe door is the liar door Then the liar door would be seen as truthful. Because the truth telling door told a truth that the liar isn’t lying because he said the truth, that he is the liar door… So the door wanting to be truthful, lied, confessing that the lie of him being a liar is true Because by him admitting to it, would make me truthful as per his claim. But it would invalidate the liar, because now, the liar is speaking truth. Thus confusing you further, and because you wasted your question They got u thinking up is down down is up and both is correct. But then it could as simple as that the truth sayer was saying the truth when he said he was the liar. Thus fufilling his role. Speaking truth. Which would then in turn make the liar door properly a liar, for he has lied. Whether or not the truth door saw the truth or not… Now you have a truth telling liar whose confirmed he is the liar while proving the liar is supposedly the truthteller. Then you go for the door proven as a truthteller , and it’s the liar. Only if you were to go for the door that lied a truth once… Instead of the liar who told a truth supposedly. Never said they can’t cover…

I love that one still tells the truth and the other lies at the end before he chooses a door... But did the one that said he doesn't know where they lead or the fact they both go to the same place lie...

@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287

Ай бұрын

Well, there wouldn't be any point of the riddle or any way of continuing alive if the second door was telling the truth, so they don't know exactly what is on the other side. However, they don't need to know what is on the other side to know that one of them opens to the correct path to take. After all, they can hear the screams from people entering the first door. If no one screams entering the second door or maybe says something affirming that it is the right path, then they can be sure they don't lead to the same place.

@pedrolmlkzk

Ай бұрын

The first one is the one that always lies, rhey both lead to demise since he lied about one of them leading to what he desired and one of them always telling the truth

@scrapbotcommander

Ай бұрын

​@@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287 The wizard: "...and then I'll design this one to trap them silently! It's devious, I love it!"

Both doors are just agents of chaos.

Oh, come on, i was watching a stand-up routine of Tom Wilson (AKA Biff Tannen) singing his "Question Song". But... with this being Chris Hallbeck, Biff can wait...

@cameronhobson

Ай бұрын

I mean, you could always scratch both itches with the Book of Biff

@NeversurrenderMM66

Ай бұрын

Q: Who is the biggest asshole you've ever worked with? A: Gary Busey! Both were in a little known movie called Let's Get Harry. It also starred Robert Duvall, Mark Harmon, Michael Schoeffling, and the late Glenn Frey, Ben Johnson, and Gregory Sierra.

“One of us tells the, the other only tells lies. One of us leads to your quest, the other to your demise.” “Alright, which one of you is a door?” “Both of us.” “That was true. I’ll go with you then.” *Gets eaten by a dragon inside.* “Why do they always assume the one telling the truth is the same door they want to go through?”

@cjdavis7924

25 күн бұрын

That is... actually a good point. They never actually specified that the one that told the truth is the one that also led to something good.

@matthiasneidenberger9471

25 күн бұрын

@@cjdavis7924 that’s why you never take the word of a talking door at face value.

@en4833

25 күн бұрын

Because that's not the answer to the riddle. Good try though. The actual answer takes that into account.

@michaelschmitt7002

24 күн бұрын

Sarah in the David Bowie movie "Labyrinth" asks: "You! If I ask the other one which door is the right one, what would they tell me?" Then takes the other door. But I don't remember if that is the part when she fell in that deep hole. 🤔

@TheTrueCopyUniverse

24 күн бұрын

It is immediately after, but it was *also* the correct way to the castle.

"No buddy you haven't asked your questions yet. You're asking for clarification on the setup of the puzzle. Now please ask your one question that's relevant to the puzzle now that you understand the premise"

"You know this is true... because it rhymes" - Vetruvius Obvious the second door tells the truth.

This reminds me of the 1986 movie Labyrinth, with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly. Where she's stuck in the maze, and meets the two Jester card doors with the riddles.

@edenhenderson6016

Ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking of too

@Crystalelements182

Ай бұрын

That show was weird but fun. Also, the question she asked is the best way to handle this problem

@schwarzerritter5724

Ай бұрын

Reminds me of the first season of Yu-Gi-Oh! where Yugi figured the riddle is rigged anyway and instead tricked the door guards to reveal the right door.

@adamsmall5598

Ай бұрын

@@Crystalelements182 It is the best way to handle the situation if one of the doors always does lie and the other always does speak the truth. Otherwise the best way to handle the situation is, as Arthur Weasley put it: "Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain."

@RebelCowboysRVs

Ай бұрын

From memory, in that there are 4 talking heads. The top two for the riddle, the bottom two explained it.

My personal RPG wisdom: When quest obstacles start mentioning the word "lie", it's time to unpack the rotary cannon.

Just see which ones pants catch on fire

@derekng7803

Ай бұрын

*A pair of pants on the side of the road suddenly catches flame*

@dizzyheads

Ай бұрын

But that's the problem They don't wear any

@GeezSus

Ай бұрын

that's the issue, the whole no legs thing

@jocomfiresin6982

Ай бұрын

Nah, that'll never work... The no legs thing.

@rockhoggaming

29 күн бұрын

@@jocomfiresin6982 "liar liar, liar's on fire"

So the first door was lying since after the setup? "It hasn't started yet" = it has started? And the second one "the setup didn't count" is also true. But then the first door would'nt give a hug to the second? Unwholesome

@Cameron115

Ай бұрын

(Me actively figuring it out, conclusion at bottom) Wait I feel like this actually works until after the adventurer goes through the door, the chatting after that point seems difficult to claim as one lying and the other not. But according to the "truthful" door it was their idea so they don't have to always lie so for the main part of it they could have been. But the "truthful" one also said they both lead to the same place which in the setup only the "liar" said one would lead to the quest but the setup didn't count yet. But either way the "truthful" one said in the setup "the other to your demise" and afterwards that they "both lead to the same place" Soooo, in conclusion, the setup didn't count and it was their idea so the whole setup was a lie, the actual thing followed the rules and after the adventurer goes through they speak however they want. Neat.

@pedrolmlkzk

Ай бұрын

​@@Cameron115the liar said that the other one always tells the truth so they can lie

@Devlerbat

Ай бұрын

Isn't the second door the liar? It is the one that said both doors lead to the prize. They didn't actually say that the truthful door would be the correct one to go through.

@Cameron115

Ай бұрын

@@Devlerbat it actually said they both lead to the same place, in the setup where (in my conclusion) it was mostly bullshit and made up.. it's possible that they both are bad or both good, a scream isn't a good sign but if its a safe enough landing it could potentially lead to the next part of the adventurer's quest somehow. In stories there's always ups and downs both figuratively and literally so it's possible. Whether Chris really thought this hard about any of this idk but its an interpretation which is neat

@Devlerbat

Ай бұрын

@@Cameron115 I rewatched it. Only the door that he didn't go through says it doesn't matter which one he picks and that they lead to the same place (the setup actually does say they are different, but not that there is a correlation between survival and the door's truthfulness). I proposed that the door he didn't go through is the lying door. The truthful door is the one that said they can't see what is on the other side (which is not the same as saying it doesn't matter what they picked.)

I love everything about this!!😂❤ I literally paused the video after they first gave their speech and said, "That doesn't make any sense."😂😂😂

@ChrisHallbeck

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@honeybree03

Ай бұрын

My brain was twisting and contorting about it. I was so relieved the sketch addressed this 🤣

Why would doors know anything that would help the adventurer? And from a straight logic perspective, Raymond Smullyan's point on the matter is spot-on: a logic puzzle demands at the least metaknowledge confirming this is in fact a puzzle that can be solved by applying logic. Otherwise, doors can say anything, and nothing they say has to be either truth or lie.

This actually does work even if you count the "setup", but it proves that neither door can be trusted: A: One of us tells the truth (true) B: The other always lies (false) A: One door leads to your quest (false) B: The other to your demise (true) A: You may ask one question (instruction: no truth value) B: To claim your prize (instruction: no truth value) The first statement only says that one of the doors tells the truth, but not that it _always_ tells the truth. That is, for one of the doors, it will tell the truth at least some of the time. The second statement says that the other door always lies, which must be false, because A made a true statement (the first one) and B made a true statement (the fourth one), so clearly neither door can _always_ be lying. If the first statement is true and the second one false, that just means that _both_ doors can either tell the truth or tell a lie.

@xn85d2

Ай бұрын

Interesting, and I like the logic. I disagree that the 6th statement has no truth value as it implies that 'the prize' is present and available to someone who uses their one question well, but that's a minor quibble. You have slipped up though. Intrinsic to this solution is the idea that one of the statements of either A or B must be true, and the other false. But you would only apply such a rule if you believe the first two statements, which you have no reason to, and in fact, you believe the 2nd to be false anyway.

@ShiningDarknes

Ай бұрын

The phrase: "you may ask one question" is not an absolute statement therefore you may ask more than one question.

@danese1636

28 күн бұрын

What happens if your quest is your demise? What happens if neither door leads to your demise?

@flix1179

23 күн бұрын

also, the "truth" for they is what they know, so, the one who say the truth, say the "truth" he know as truth, about false. and, by the "truth", he mention thats "the truth" is on a single phrase, like "the one tells THE truth", not, all the truth, so, the only truth is, one of both always lies, so, if one those always lie, it imply thats the one (A) who said "one tell the truth" is telling the truth about it but, about the rest? so, by truth, the only truth is about one of both is always telling lies, because, if the second try to "denay" the true, its a lie, same as denay the lie as a lie, is a lie too, so, by telling the truth the A said thats all danay of truth or lie by the B is false, therefore, the own statement "all a i said is lie" its a lie, however, if its a lie, will be a lie again, so, the one who lies is the A and B, because he's treat like a true a contradictory statement, contradictory dont imply lie btw; another evidence is the A do saying "we both make this idea", and B telling the A thats is his idea, both can lying about the whole idea. The first one i contradictory, the second is lie, therefore, both cnat be trusted

1:18 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! *POOR SOUL…* *PRESS F FOR RESPECT*

@bloodred255

Ай бұрын

Both doors lead to the same place. He was doomed from the start

@richardarriaga6271

Ай бұрын

​@@bloodred255Just turn back

@gabrielgingras814

Ай бұрын

​@@bloodred255 That door was lying.

@niinak73

Ай бұрын

F

@aramisortsbottcher8201

Ай бұрын

F

lol the moment one of them started explaining the rules I was "Wait that's not how it's supposed..." 😂

0:20 Yugioh did this exactly same thing. Yugi realized that the liar could never admit to there being one truth teller and one liar. The only way it makes sense is if they're both liar. Samurai Jack did the same thing with the two headed snake saying one snake head led to the stomach, the other was a magic portal. And it's implied the two doors in Labyrinth also did this...

@xFlareLeon

Ай бұрын

Only if the ones giving the riddle are the twins themselves, though. Like the doors said, an impartial third party helps clear it all up.

@leonhaynard5565

29 күн бұрын

The first time I came across this riddle was in Amos Daragon, a teen fantasy novel. The one giving the riddle was a cerberus, and the middle head told the riddle involving its other two heads being one liar and one truth teller.

@Nerd_Detective

27 күн бұрын

It is possible that the door guards in Labyrinth are both liars, or don't actually understand the riddle (which they freely admit to Sarah). But it's likely because Sarah said, "It's a piece of cake." Every time she says this in the movie, she is immediately punished by something going horribly wrong. She barely finishes saying it before the trap door opens.

Doors: "One of us lies, the other tells the truth" Me: "If I asked the other door 'Are there more doors or wheels in the world?', what would it say?" Doors: "What?" Me: "This knowledge is way more important than any gold"

@peterbraunschweig2779

Ай бұрын

It's wheels, by a long shot.

@anerdwithaswitch9686

Ай бұрын

@@peterbraunschweig2779 Unless you count transistors as doors.

@MatthewTheWanderer

29 күн бұрын

@@anerdwithaswitch9686 Why would transistors count as doors?

@Vincent_Beers

29 күн бұрын

Because a transistor is like a door for electricity. It's how it's taught. Controlling the transistor is opening and closing a door so small that only an electric charge can pass through. Many electric concepts are taught with practical analogy.

@MatthewTheWanderer

29 күн бұрын

@@Vincent_Beers Oh okay, I guess that makes sense. But, it's too small to be a real door that physically opens and closes.

This reminds me of that time I watched a video by Chris Hallbeck about two talking doors and one was named “Honest Abe” and the other named “Pants on Fire”. They decided to change their names after a while.

When Chris Perkins used this in a Acquisitions Inc podcast, the one door (statue in his case) only spoke the question(s) part, and the other only spoke the truth and lies part. The party quickly figured out the questions one is the liar (but considered the possibility that they might alternate lying), but ended up walking away from the puzzle anyway.

"One of us always tells the truth, the other always lies ... Hey, pay attention. What are you doing down there. What is that? Why is it ticking?! Where are you running off to?"

That’s why the original riddle had the set up written on a plaque

"If you were the other door, which door would you say is the correct one to go through?" (and then go through the opposite of what he says because a lying door would lie about what the truth telling door would say, and would tell you the bad door, and the truth telling door would tell you the truth of what the lying door would say, which would also be the bad door.)

Oddly wholesome. I hope these doors get arms.

I love reading how people "solve" this riddle. Because it shows that even in a world where the answer is common knowledge, people are still dumb enough to mess it up by thinking themselves smart. No, nobody said the truth door leads to your goal. No, you only get one question. Some people even forget the lying door lies to you.

@jonathangoodwin5609

Ай бұрын

True, but these kinds riddles are usually in the sort of story where morality matters, so 'lying is bad' logic would lead to the honest door being correct. Of course, that only works in kids media where moral lessons are the point.

@fallouthirteen

Ай бұрын

Yeah, funniest part is when people have heard the solution but word it wrong. Like wording it by while asking which one they'd recommend is also wrong (no one said they want you to live, even the honest one may want you to go in the death door). You need to word it with objectivity ("which one is safe to go through" or something, not "which one should I go through", then modified by however you want to figure out which one is truth like asking "what would you say if I asked" before main question).

@taiyoqun

Ай бұрын

@@nnoxie.a ok, let's say they answer yes. What then, would you know which one it is? What if they answer no, would you know?

@taiyoqun

Ай бұрын

@@nnoxie.a aight, a double question, that's a smart way to solve it. Not sure the doors will allow it (or even realise you're asking two questions, like it happened to me) but it's worth a try. The common answer is to ask what would the other door say and then reversing it, which does the same thing by ensuring there's always an even number of lies (2 lies, while in your answer there's sometimes 0 and sometimes 2). But neat, I've never seen that answer, absolutely love it.

@ShiningDarknes

Ай бұрын

@@nnoxie.a You assume they know what your quest is. What happens if they don't? That hallway clearly continued on, those doors could just be a side room.

Never trust the enchanted objects of a dungeon which wants to kill you!

That awkward moment when you hallucinate that a couple doors are talking to you.

You get the next adventurer to write it down. As DM the first thing I thought of was "oh yeah, the setup would have to be written down or else they'll be like, 'so half the setup was a lie?'c

They’re both lying for the whole setup

I like how the suggestions they come up in the end are the ways this puzzle is presented for real

Doors having an existential crisis about their own puzzle was not something id thought id see today, yet here i am

Reminds me of The Labyrinth movie from the 80s

I love how your comics are all so wholesome and sweet and dark AF. Subverting expectations. It's a beautiful thing.

The 10th Kingdom had a great answer for this kind of riddle! 😂 so funny!

The stuggles of a dungeon master - animated

I find both doors to be enchanting and adorable! Unless I'm lying...

@handyandy6050

Ай бұрын

Adoorable! Love it!

Fun fact: The original version of this question involves 2 guards who are lying and telling the truth and the task was to ask them which door to go through

Doors look like those judges wearing bench wigs.

- Well, at least we still have legs, the left door said, as they both wandered away.

"how many fingers do i have on my right hand?" that should solve that.

@willdejong7763

Ай бұрын

Is a thumb a finger?

@willdejong7763

Ай бұрын

Maybe better to ask, "Do I have 12 fingers on my right hand?"

@danielgehring7437

Ай бұрын

..but.. then you don't know which door to go through...

@mth469

Ай бұрын

@@danielgehring7437 oh right, forgot about that. i don't think its possible, unless i ask 2 questions.

@ashb7846

Ай бұрын

@@danielgehring7437well if one always tells the truth and one always lies, if it said “yes” to 12 fingers that would be the liar wouldn’t it? (I know the technical answer to this riddle, but I’ve wondered about simple solutions like this too lol)

Wait. THEY WERE LYING ABOUT NOT HAVING ARMS.

This is actually the best representation of this I've ever seen.

I legit thought the adventurer would ask something like "do you two like-like each other" and the respective reactions of the doors would lead to the answer on who was lying, but I guess that wouldn't make any sense since the adventurer would still be clueless as to which door is actually safe lol

@hgrey8725

Ай бұрын

Like, Adventurer: "do you two have feelings for each other?" Door 1: "n.. no.." Door 2: "yes" Door 2: "wait, what?" Door 1: "you like me??" Door 2: "but I... I thought you felt the same way.." Door 1: "I do! Er- I mean- I don't-" Door 2: "what are you talking a- ohhhhhhhh" Adventurer: *smiles at the blushing doors*

Hellooo!!!

In the normal way its setup, yeah, asking one door where the other would say it leads to would work. However, as the npc stated, the logic starts going wonky if their conditions apply from the start. If one door says "One of us always lies": - That door is telling the truth, and the other door is a liar. - That door is lying, and both doors are liars. - That door is lying, in that one or both of them don't always lie.

@xn85d2

Ай бұрын

No matter which outcome it is, there's no solution and you shouldn't trust the doors at all. If the door that says "One of us always lies" is telling the truth, the door that says "One of us always tells the truth" is lying, making both doors liars, and the door that doesn't always tell the truth may lie only sometimes. If the door that says "One of us always lies" is lying, it could be that one door sometimes lies, making it impossible to solve the puzzle.

Simply ask the next adventurer to write it down for you, offering to reveal the correct door just to get this over with. Then give them the wrong door.

This is like the Samurai Jack subversion of the Labyrinth puzzle, where the dragons reveal (to the audience) that they are _both_ liars.

For those who don't know the answer to these puzzles, here it is; (Spoilers, Duh) "If I asked your counterpart what door leads to the good thing, which would they point to?" If by chance you asked this to the truth-door/guard/guardian/statue/whatthefuckever then the door would say that the liar door would say the door that leads to the bad thing. If you picked the liar-door/guard/whatthefuckever then it would say the other door would say the door that leads to the bad thing is the good one. Therefore nonmatter who you ask, they have just told you which door is the bad one so choose the other one for the loot/treasure/whatever. If you can't tell, I play a lot of D&D

@sofiahebe5897

Ай бұрын

Yes, exactly! Thank you!

@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287

Ай бұрын

Just ask if they know which one of them is the correct path. The only way the riddle can work is if both doors know which is the correct path. Even figuring out which one is lying is useless if they don't know which one to go through. The liar will say, "no" while the honest one says, "yes". Then, ask both of them "are you the correct path?". If they both say "yes", then go through the truthful door. If they both say "no", then go through the lying door.

@SoulDragonWithFlow

Ай бұрын

@@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287 You only get one question.

@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287

Ай бұрын

​@@SoulDragonWithFlow Fair point. But, you could claim that the first one is still part of the set up and the trick the doors into doing the lying and honest bit early. They still need to establish the rules of the game. Anything works if you wear the DM down long enough and roll high.

@SoulDragonWithFlow

Ай бұрын

@@sonniepronounceds-au-ni9287 NGL, you sound like an awful player for a DM to manage.

Don’t scroll down Stop Come on, just stop Ok I warned you. First.

And THIS Ladies and Gentlemen, is how you do a Deconstruction and Reconstruction right!!!

I literally got so confused thinking about what they said in the first 5 seconds of the video that I had to pause and think about it for 5 more minutes.

First

hilarious as always! 🚪 it open doors for me! 😆

This reminds me of a 'puzzle' my GM threw at my group in a D&D game. It was almost exactly like this except that the reveal at the end was that both doors were lying, they were mimics that made the whole thing up to trick adventurers into feeding themselves to them. We lost half the party before we realized it was a trick (we just assumed the deaths were from messing up the puzzle) and were almost TPKd by a fight with the 'doors' afterwards.

The way the adventurer screams💀

I'm so glad it's about this. I paused it right in the beginning to ponder the exact same thing.

Ha! I was looking at the thumbnail, and thinking, “wait, how can one be lying if they are saying the real rules?” Then the video confirmed my thought. Thanks!

I love that the adventurer looked inside, saw the same thing in both, and still walked right off a cliff. I think the real gimmick was false hope all along.

And THIS is why most properly functioning versions of this setup have a sign over the doors to explain the things without producing any ambiguity.

I actually had this stereotypical puzzle in my dnd game and while writing it I realized the problem so I just had it say above them "One always lies " on the wall

Samurai Jack tought me well

The kicker is that the "one that tells the truth" doesn't _always_ tell the truth, supposedly unlike "the one that _always_ lies." They never said the door that _can_ say the truth _can't_ lie, therefore they can both lie _and_ tell the truth because they could both be lying about one of them being only able to lie. The correct answer is to try and find another way around the magic door, because whoever designed it had to have created a secondary entrance _somewhere_ because otherwise they wouldn't be able to pass either. It's a trap designed to stop/kill anyone gullible enough to fall for the ruse of a "fair" game.

I really like objects having powerful voices and I have no idea why

I mean, the one on the left didn’t tell the entire truth once. So that one I guess

Its so sad they have no arms to write it down. I recomend asking the next adventurer to write it down for them before he picks his/her door fate.

This is the first time I see this Method be questioned in this manner it makes so much sense

Finally someone pointed out this inconsistency. It's from the day that I saw Labyrinth that I'm "how could it be? They just didn't contradict each other and the one who "always lies" should have said "we both lie", instead".

"So was one of you lying just now?" That's where they messed up. The supposed liar door should've said, "Yes! One of us has been lying the whole time" while the supposed truth door should've said "No, it doesn't start until you answer the question."

Armed Doors ?? When will this arms escalation stop ??!!!

I suggest they are like 2 politicians, full of promises, but you can't trust either of them.

Stanley walked through the FIRST door.

This reminds me of Ralph and Jim and Alph and Tim from Labyrinth. It’s such a good movie.

If the first door is lying and the second tells the truth, then both doors lead to demise. If both are lying then "the other always lie" is a lie, which means one of them has to tell the truth, which is a paradox.

@pedrolmlkzk

Ай бұрын

If I say to you "I always lie" doesn't it mean that I don't always lie rather than always tell the truth

@moderndayvampire1469

Ай бұрын

@@pedrolmlkzk Umu, you have a point there.

@PalladinPoker

Ай бұрын

"the other always lies" would still be a lie if both always lie, it implies the speaker doesn't always lie.

That plaque would never work for an entirely different secondary reason. The Party never reads! XD

This is even better with the speech added! The scream after the adventurer went through the door was so unexpected.

I could help them. Who wouldn't want to have such adoorable pals?

My favorite variation is one tells truth, one lies, and there is a third one that gives random yes/no answers.

If inside you wish to peek, find the items which we seek. A tool thats full and lets ink flow, and a sign on which the words may go. ..and also someone who can write.

😂😂😂😂😂 these brings so much child memories and laughs, so cool Chris keep up your amazing work.

Someone please give them arms.

I just saw the film Labyrinth for the first time and there was this type of logic puzzle in the film. Pretty cool to see it in a children's film.

you two doors missed the perfect candidate to solve your problem

Thats hilarious the first door was telling the truth when he said they don't even know whats on the other side and the second door lied when saying both lead to the same place which means the whole puzzle is just a joke for the doors and its a complete gamble were the door leads you to and this adventurer was unlucky and met his demise lol anything the doors say doesnt matter cause they dont know where the lead to this personification comic between the doors is so cute keep up the good work Chris every upload makes me smile.

@ChrisHallbeck

Ай бұрын

This is the best new take I've seen on this in 38 years

Finally! Somebody actually sees the issues with the door puzzle!

"Was one of you lying just now?" He just wasted his one question!

If you go just by the riddle and assume that a door either always tells the truth or always lies, the only option would be that the first door tells the truth. In that case, we will have to understand the second door’s statement “the other lies” as “door 1 lies”.