The Truth Behind Prey's Accuracy: Comanche vs Predator

Warning: Spoiler Alerts! How accurate is the movie Prey? What did they get right and wrong about the Comanche? This is my take on Hulu’s new movie, Prey. Enjoy. #wildwest #history #western
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  • @NinjaCthulhu
    @NinjaCthulhu Жыл бұрын

    As for the depiction of the French: France had started settling and claiming poritons North America, including parts of the Northern Great Plains, as early as the early 1600's. Before 1719, the French did set up several Forts. From what I found, the closes French fort to the Northern Great Plains were Fort Bourdon in Manitoba, Canada (there were a few in Illinois at the time too). Since the film never said exactly where the movie took place, its possible the French traders were in the Great Plains area. Ironically, the Comanche Indians were not a tribe in the Northern Great Plains, but rather much further south. Also, the French didn't slaughter the Buffalo needlessly as seen in the film, that would have been something that the Americans would have done in the 1800's.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    The Comanche were a northern Great Plains tribe before migrating south. The eastern Wyoming region.

  • @rosevalentine3685

    @rosevalentine3685

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@WildWestExtravaganza point is French fur traders hunted and trapped beavers in the great lake region not plains. in the 1700 this is when Britain and French colonist were having the bloodiest battles in Canada and the French fur trade ENDED IN 1701 why are there still French fur traders more than 10 years later after you can't earn a profit from it in France? you shold not only studie USA history when making these vidios french canadians have their own story. From roughly 1600 to 1650, the French forged alliances of kinship and trade with the Huron-Wendat, Algonquin and Innu. These peoples helped the French collect and process beaver furs and distribute them to other Indigenous groups throughout their vast trade network, which was established well before the arrival of Europeans we did not act like deranged psychopaths calling native American woman dogs "chienne" like portrayed in the movie.

  • @rosevalentine3685

    @rosevalentine3685

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza Quebec was built in 1608 Acadians and Cajuns predate Jamestown and the first 13 USA colonies. the Acadians first landed in 1605, 2 years before the first USA colonizers would arrive in America and were deported to Louisiana in 1755 during "le grand derrangement" has i said in 1700's French Canadians were too busy dealing with British oppression and wars with the British than fur trading. the fur trade ended in the first year of the 1700's and outlawed in France.

  • @raymondpilarczyk2773
    @raymondpilarczyk2773 Жыл бұрын

    The Comanche (or rather the Numunu as they call themselves) actually did wear medicine paint often and if one removes the idea of 'war' paint, it is plausible for them to do so. The women were known to wear paint often, but no different than a woman now wearing makeup. Once they moved south, they even started to tattoo their faces/bodies which is something they picked up from the Eastern tribes of Texas which Comancheria bordered with. The main flaw most Westerns have with Comanche is an extensive use of War Bonnets which they did not wear till the last years of resistance which they picked up from the Kiowa and Southern Cheyenne, though the feathers did not hold the same significance of war honors as for the other tribes, it was for style and effect which found even Quanah Parker wearing one. The main attire for a Comanche when they wore a headdress was a horned cap, being either bison or deer antlers, the biggest medicine and prized possession being their feathered shield and medicine bag. The Comanche were practical about their attire out in the field which is also what made them so deadly and efficient in combat

  • @maybebabyny

    @maybebabyny

    11 ай бұрын

    Very interesting. Any idea how women were treated in their society?

  • @maybebabyny
    @maybebabyny Жыл бұрын

    Its beautifully shot and thematically it is an interesting take. The lead is unconvincing to me. She seems like she just walked out of a mall.

  • @billytrevathan6405

    @billytrevathan6405

    11 ай бұрын

    I have only seen the trailer and it reeked of wokeism to me, even though I haven’t seen the entire movie and I respect Josh’s right to his opinion. I disagree with him on this, I seriously doubt there were ever any female comanche warriors. They were the epitome of a patriarchal society when it came to war and giving out beatings to their wives. I’m sure at some point a young brave thought to himself “I’d like to have sex with running bear” and kept his freaking mouth shut about it for the rest of his life. Things were different then. The females were basically property. First of their father, then their husband.

  • @maxbrazil3712
    @maxbrazil3712 Жыл бұрын

    The Comanche word for anyone not of their tribe was "enemy" so I doubt they practiced woke politics.

  • @jameswilliams3241

    @jameswilliams3241

    Жыл бұрын

    The Saxon word for people not of their tribe was also enemy, that's what the word Welsh originally meant and they applied the word to people from Stratheclyde to Cornwall.

  • @forodinssake9570

    @forodinssake9570

    Жыл бұрын

    Imagine using "woke" unironically lmao

  • @iainmelville9411
    @iainmelville9411 Жыл бұрын

    Wow - wasn’t expecting a bonus. Thanks.

  • @nathanielgreer2764
    @nathanielgreer2764 Жыл бұрын

    Spoiler: The pistol with the inscription is still with the tribe at the end of the movie. That pistol is given by a Predator to Danny Glover at the end of Predator 2. So I guess that means that the Predators come back and somehow get that gun. That is bad news for them. Also the main character looks a lot like Aubrey Plaza. It made me want a Ron Swanson Vs. Predator movie.

  • @mrbill_oh_no

    @mrbill_oh_no

    Жыл бұрын

    I’d watch it

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    It'd be a short movie. Ron would either join the Predators or defeat them within minutes.

  • @nathanielgreer2764

    @nathanielgreer2764

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza he would probably teach them woodworking as an appropriate outlet for their excessive energy and excitable nature.

  • @dannyhernandez1212

    @dannyhernandez1212

    9 ай бұрын

    Watch the mid credits scene in Prey. It shows the Predators with 3 ships coming to the tribe. It implies that's how they got the gun.

  • @ES-wb2do
    @ES-wb2do Жыл бұрын

    If I'm watching this show about space creatures collecting trophies across the universe, I wouldn't really worry about weather it's historically accurate, the space hunters would definitely destroy any historical value.

  • @ES-wb2do

    @ES-wb2do

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh, and by the way Josh, I really enjoy your podcast, I catch myself chuckling when you add the humorous notes, keep it up

  • @camobranson09

    @camobranson09

    Жыл бұрын

    This is true, if predators didn't have pride. They hunt for sport and glory. There is no glory and hardly sporting to hunt prey you are so superior too. As such they strip themselves of things far above their prey's capabilities and hunt on a more even playing field as dictated by their superiors. Predator culture is never really fleshed out in the movies, the closest being Predators (2016 i think) in which we see multiple Yautja competing for a spot in the hierarchy and to prove themselves as the best. Plunged into a Battle Royal where the winner has either the most trophies or is last man standing. For instance in Predator: Dark Ages the predator is fighting English knights. As such he uses armor, arrows, swords/claw blades, and a net but doesn't use the shoulder cannon, the plasma blaster, and other such devices. (Edit: totally misread this as "totally destroy any historical people and not as value. I'll still leave it in case you find it interesting or it helps understand why the natives weren't just obliterated left and right consistently.

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 Жыл бұрын

    The comanche is the central numic of the uto - Aztecan language family the Shoshone, ute, monu and Northern paiute tribes. Alberta Canada were the Northern Great plains tribes once been thier ancient grounds for the arikara, Blackfoot, Blackfeet, Kiowa and the Dakota and Lakota sioux nation. The scientist researchers found ancient hunting arrows heads there from this tribes.

  • @kal0247
    @kal0247 Жыл бұрын

    The scenery and cinematography was beautiful and Dakota Beavers did do a great job and with that being said I really didn't care for the movie I mean it wasn't horrible but I'll never watch it again and to be honest i forgot about it until this video popped up in my notifications and i watched this movie with my 2 teenage daughters and a few of their friends over this past weekend,none of us felt any connection to Amber Midthunder,she's a fine actress but her role was just unbelievable and uninteresting I was more interested in Dakota's character and was shocked that my daughters and all her friends were to he was just written better and we all cared where his story was going,we just didn't buy what she was selling and if it had been more of a tribe victory then the underdog story it would of been way better.

  • @goodtreasureministries9008
    @goodtreasureministries9008 Жыл бұрын

    I watched the movie with low expectations and really enjoyed it. It was a show you movie rather than tell you so I had to watch it twice to catch a lot of details I missed the first time. It was well written.

  • @dannyhernandez1212
    @dannyhernandez12129 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂 You should ask how accurate Predator 2 was predicting 1997 Los Angeles. Still love that movie.

  • @Cyberclaw86
    @Cyberclaw86 Жыл бұрын

    Cinematography was great. Plot and characterization were on par with Captain Marvel...

  • @tadlovelace6787
    @tadlovelace6787 Жыл бұрын

    🤠👍 there is a version that was shown here in Comanche land that is dubbed completely in the Comanche language and has English subtitles

  • @hardwear6996

    @hardwear6996

    Жыл бұрын

    Hulu has the: "Prey (Comanche Dub)" option on the movie info page

  • @randallsilverman6798
    @randallsilverman6798 Жыл бұрын

    I wasn't put out by the girl warrior, it was handled fairly well and managed to not appear to be merely a token gesture. I was more annoyed by the author's lecture about being thin-skinned regarding any woke agenda. A few words about it is one thing, but two minutes of it...ugh, I was really hoping you'd remark on things like the tomahawk-on-a-rope or the unusual grip on the bows employed by the warriors, things like that.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    If I only annoyed you for 2 minutes then I consider that an accomplishment

  • @marksantoro2110
    @marksantoro2110 Жыл бұрын

    I did not expect you to address the Comanche/Yautja connection. However, I also love the original Predator……and Native American history (particularly Comanche). Well played. I liked the movie!

  • @johnmatthews4717
    @johnmatthews4717 Жыл бұрын

    This made me far more likely to see Prey, thanks man.

  • @Charlie.a
    @Charlie.a10 ай бұрын

    Iyou have the best channel bro😂. Im always laughing out loud. Your jokes always come outa no where.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks Charlie!

  • @jameswilliams3241
    @jameswilliams3241 Жыл бұрын

    Loved it, my only beef,more a question was when Taaba shot and brought home the red-tailed hawk. Were they going to eat it? The first thing that popped into my head was this old song my grandmother scandalized us with when we were kids it went "dirty turkey buzzard we shot down in the hollow tasted like we basted it in a golden shower "LOL The old woman was born in 1894 so I guess ribald songs have always been around 😂. But it made me wonder what that hawk would taste like.

  • @EastlakeRasta7

    @EastlakeRasta7

    Жыл бұрын

    Ceremonial purposes, I'd imagine as a woman she's showing off her skills as an Archer, or else using the hawk feathers for arrows. From what my grandpa taught me, (he's Ojibwe) would use whatever was around us if we could find what was preferred, so I'd imagine that would apply to all the other tribes too especially if it's winter. 🤔

  • @dannysimmons3167
    @dannysimmons3167 Жыл бұрын

    2 in one day. Great

  • @dustinh4175
    @dustinh4175 Жыл бұрын

    You should see the Columbia river gorge around Stevenson Washington. But the most beautiful place I've ever seen is the Olympic national park, if you can get there you should.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    I'd love to

  • @BobcatWolfenstein
    @BobcatWolfenstein Жыл бұрын

    I thought her character development was lacking... She was basically terrible at hunting till suddenly she makes a rope and all the sudden she's a physics defying badass?

  • @forodinssake9570

    @forodinssake9570

    Жыл бұрын

    What? You see her fail again and again, and learn from it, the tomahawk rope thing was one such case (although utterly unrealistic)

  • @CmdrMoosicvsLounge
    @CmdrMoosicvsLounge Жыл бұрын

    Really enjoy your reviews. Thank you sir!!👍✌😎

  • @joshuaharris6735
    @joshuaharris6735 Жыл бұрын

    Well put sir as far as famous female Native warriors check out Nonhelema not only a warrior but a respected Shawnee Chief. I’m from Ohio and I like to think ohio at one point was very much the Wild West. Keep doing what you’re doing

  • @tanberetO
    @tanberetO Жыл бұрын

    At it again Josh. Love it.

  • @shanehutchison6791
    @shanehutchison6791 Жыл бұрын

    Hello from Alberta Josh. Thank you for the kind words about our Province. Where I am, we have the Majestic Rocky Mountain Foothills immediately to our West and the Great Plains to our East...beautiful! Cheers and a big YEEHAA from the Great White North! 🇨🇦

  • @HP3TV
    @HP3TV Жыл бұрын

    Sci Fi does not have to be historically accurate, but I get your point.

  • @rijoenpial

    @rijoenpial

    Жыл бұрын

    There was no science, just fiction involved... No physics, no historical accuracy, not even Predator tech made any sense much less Predator's knowledge of how its own technology works, as easily seen from him trying to spear the hero child with an arrow without the mask to control it...

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 Жыл бұрын

    The last free plains Indian chief who wouldn't take reservation life from 1840 to 1880. Drifting goose was the most stubborn Dakota sioux indian chief during the 1870's along the James River valley north of Redfield County SD untouched land. Drifting goose never signed a treaty with the us government. He never allowed settlers on his own land. Drifting goose led non- violence raiding parties during the 1870's against the American settlers and rail road survivors by destroying properties, stealing cattle and breaking rail road spikes. Finally by the spring of the 1880 after a crop failure and constant harssemit by the us government. The Dakota sioux Indian leader led his last free proud hunkpati Dakota sioux people to the crow creek sioux Indian reservation at old Fort Thompson SD were his descents live today. Drifting goose still owns land on the James River valley on armidil island near a ancient Mandan earth mound village. He was known as the peaceful Dakota sioux chief.

  • @zeke3447
    @zeke3447 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, watching it now! Josh with the intel

  • @mrbill_oh_no
    @mrbill_oh_no Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Great review!

  • @docinc1000
    @docinc1000 Жыл бұрын

    Nice one ....love the way you give respect when talking about native Americans......

  • @leerogers630
    @leerogers630 Жыл бұрын

    In the beginning when she is walkin into her village u can clearly see a stop sign next to a hut 🛖 idk if the native Americans used traffic signs in 1797

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    I still remember the Starbuck cup in Game of Thrones

  • @dominickefrim3088
    @dominickefrim3088 Жыл бұрын

    Okay, give me some female Comanche warrior name?

  • @McDanielRanch
    @McDanielRanch Жыл бұрын

    Lozen was an Apache u should look in to she really stood out as a women doing man things.

  • @godwarrior3403
    @godwarrior3403 Жыл бұрын

    "There's no agenda to Prey unless you're looking for one." "Quote: I didn't even know this was a predator movie. The representation was what's important."

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    An actress wanting to represent her people as human is an agenda?

  • @godwarrior3403

    @godwarrior3403

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza 9:34 is where it starts if you need reminding she opened with the fact it was about a woman being a hunter for her. And yeah, in 2022, "representation" is mostly woke agenda. I'm not the type who posts a bunch of "Oh those libtard idiots" posts, but I'm also not the type to see a duck and call it a snake. When there's a gay character in a Netflix movie, or a female warrior lead in 2022, it's woke agenda. Representation outside of the virtue signal doesn't really exist in the 2020s.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    I think this goes hand in hand with there being no agenda unless you're looking for one. I'm very thankful that I don't see woke agenda behind every rock.

  • @godwarrior3403

    @godwarrior3403

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza When someone didn't know the role was for a predator movie because they immediately said yes because "representation," that's not a rock you even have to turn all the way over. I would have been willing to accept I was jumping the gun if it weren't for her all but blatantly saying it.

  • @AkaiKnight
    @AkaiKnight Жыл бұрын

    I thought the movie was visually great. They put a lot of thought into the historical accuracy. My biggest gripe is the characterization. I felt like not enough time was spent on fleshing out the main characters and how the tribal society worked and it made it hard to care when anyone died. The protag was insufferable. She never admitted her faults whenever she failed, or learned any lessons about humility and teamwork after failing to hunt a stag, bear then finally failing to kill the mountain lion and getting saved by her brother. Naru is almost mindless in her pursuit of a kill. She’s cool. She’s capable, I like the way she looks. But Naru just comes across as a dick TBH. It made it hard for me to understand what the actual theme/point was here. Like I get the constant visuals of predation and prey throughout the movie but what was the deeper point with the Protagonist and going from prey to predator? Finally, I thought foregoing the mud for a flower that lowers your body temp was unnecessary. It came across as video gamey I liked pretty much everything else.

  • @Darkroome

    @Darkroome

    Жыл бұрын

    I thought the flower instead of the mud was a great twist and I suppose everyone who watched it thought exactly like me and my wife that she’d find that falling in the quick sand/bog and being covered in mud from it made her invisible to the predator 😁

  • @greghardy9476
    @greghardy9476 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent commentary!

  • @m.worthy
    @m.worthy Жыл бұрын

    Supposedly, Warner Bros. has a screenplay for a possible *Quanah Parker* movie inspired by S.C. Gwynne's *_'Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches..'_* : kzread.info/dash/bejne/h4d8pNWCmrXHfqw.html Unlike 'Prey', and obviously minus outer space creatures _(but with the U.S. Army, Ranald S. Mackenzie, Buffalo Soldiers, etc.),_ such a movie would take place in the late 1800's and focus on the Comanche at their peak when they were renowned for their horse associated culture and obtained a reputation (infamously or incorrectly) for raiding, aggression, violence.... *_"Lords of The Southern Plains"_* through the Kwahadi (Comanche band) surrender under Quanah's leadership.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Great book. I'd love for it to be a series as opposed to just a 90 minute movie, though.

  • @m.worthy

    @m.worthy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza With Gwynne having already commented on the budget💰💲⬆️, in this day and age, with the scope of the tale, a movie like that would have to be 2.5 to 3 hours in length. Other _"Epics"_ have been...📽🎬🎞 A mini-series though...Yeah, as long as it is superb in screenplay/writing, casting, directing, intensity, score, funding, "historical accuracy", scope, production budget...🎟

  • @jeffcook6726
    @jeffcook6726 Жыл бұрын

    What, no comment on how the Comanche gripped the bowstring with their hand backward, like the characters in Avatar?

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    I never watched Avatar

  • @lusolad

    @lusolad

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly! What was that about?

  • @user-wd6nr4qh4f
    @user-wd6nr4qh4f9 ай бұрын

    I heard something about "how" tonto on the lone ranger only had very free words in his script....

  • @Darkroome
    @Darkroome Жыл бұрын

    I thought it was brilliant and like so many others I started watching it with low expectations, but it was really good.

  • @feagal612
    @feagal612 Жыл бұрын

    Good grief, two episodes in one day? Is this real or am I suffering from a severe head wound?

  • @Xweapon9099
    @Xweapon9099 Жыл бұрын

    About the protag, well said.

  • @wardawg6341
    @wardawg6341 Жыл бұрын

    if anyone has a issue with the female part of this movie then they mustve never heard of Lozen.

  • @terribethreed8464
    @terribethreed8464 Жыл бұрын

    I watched your video & when I saw Prey was on HULU I went straight to it & watched it. WOW! GREAT FILM! I'll be 69 in September & have been a history buff, Sci-Fi watcher & Western lover my whole life. I couldn't believe they got the Tomahawk tether right, as well as other aspects of Comanche. You're spot on about the War Paint being too much. There have been a few women in the history of Native American life that were Chiefs & War Chiefs. I can't remember their names but they were awesome. You should check it out & do videos about them. Also don't forget their societies are matriarchal. Thank you for passing this film on to us. Great film but should have been longer.

  • @swhip897
    @swhip897 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Josh

  • @tims.3950
    @tims.3950 Жыл бұрын

    Endeavor to persevere, Josh.

  • @DgDanger72
    @DgDanger72 Жыл бұрын

    Will be watching this one now.

  • @troyfitch6440
    @troyfitch6440 Жыл бұрын

    Lock up your rope and hatchets if you let your children watch this movie.

  • @KurtOnoIR
    @KurtOnoIR Жыл бұрын

    Lots of female warriors throughout history. The viking shield maidens of course but have you ever heard of the pasaryk people. I think im spelling it wrong. They were from the area around mongolia. Mixed race people, rode horses into battle. I think it was Plato that said thier women could not marry until the killed an enemy in battle and they would cut off one breast so they could more effectively draw thier bow. Those were some crazy ones.

  • @forodinssake9570

    @forodinssake9570

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah Scythians, especially sarmathians didn't care about gender when it comes down to war. I'm pretty sure shield maidens aren't that hisotrically accurate, we have one case of a woman being buried with typically male tools and equipment but that's about it

  • @kaitlin9890
    @kaitlin9890 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this review, I was worried it was going to be unforgiving and biased the way so many I've seen have been. I think something to keep in mind regarding the gender role issues that a lot of people are bringing up is that many Indigenous nations did not force their people to conform to rigid gender roles, pre-colonization many men and women filled roles that may now be considered opposite to their gender. Im pretty sure it was only after colonization that rigid gender roles and a more patriarchal model of society was adopted by many Indigenous nations. Personally as a Native girl I'm stoked to see a Native girl kick a predators ass, if this had come out when I was a kid I wouldve freaked. I feel like people forget how much it means to see someone similar to you in mainstream media especially for kids- like many people might not relate or even like Naru but there is some little native girl out there who does and I feel like that means a lot more than weather or not the film was historically accurate.

  • @powpow9560
    @powpow9560 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this film. Blew my expectations out of the water.

  • @ericshedrock6052
    @ericshedrock6052 Жыл бұрын

    Thinking back to the bloody beaver, always kind of thought there might be some French in your ancestry DNA . That or just take it at face value lol . I don't even know why my mind went to that lol . I was planning on watching prey but with your review might just watch it tonight .

  • @zerocool1344
    @zerocool1344 Жыл бұрын

    It was a good movie... but predator fans didn't give a damn that it was a girl hero, the issue was they failed to follow the predator fictitious lore. There's a ton of issues on the predator side. But over all it was a good movie.

  • @StephenHodges-er7kw
    @StephenHodges-er7kw Жыл бұрын

    I watched your video on clay allison then went back to show it to a friend and couldn't find it

  • @mantiskoking
    @mantiskoking7 ай бұрын

    Comanche encampments in the Northern Rockies and a large French Fur-Trapping Company Expedition in the same area in the year 1719 was beyond historically inaccurate. Why even bother to be historically accurate otherwise?

  • @KD_OIFMedicM6
    @KD_OIFMedicM6 Жыл бұрын

    it was not uncommon for women to accompany men on raiding parties after they were past child bearing years.

  • @JackKrei
    @JackKrei Жыл бұрын

    Wondering how Amber Midthunder got her last name? I know her father's last name must have been the same as his father's last name and he was - Norwegian, some English her paternal grandmother - Assiniboine Sioux Native American could have given her that name her mom being - English, Chinese didn't that's for sure.

  • @stevenfrench7940
    @stevenfrench7940 Жыл бұрын

    Watched it last night

  • @hardwear6996
    @hardwear6996 Жыл бұрын

    Female Viking warriors aka "Shield Maidens" regularly fought alongside Viking men

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like something a weak liberal cuck would say. Nice try, revisionist. (That was sarcasm).

  • @j.d.unlisted8668
    @j.d.unlisted8668 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review, I might watch this movie after all. P.S. I was very disappointed with Hostiles.

  • @LauseMarkA
    @LauseMarkA Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @chicago618
    @chicago618 Жыл бұрын

    I certainly do think it’s woke. No one has a problem with the depiction of a female warrior as if that were out the realm of possibility. Of course a strong woman warrior existed. That’s not the issue. The issue is how likely would have it been? Very slim. So why the depiction of an unlikely warrior today? It’s the trend in cinema today in line with the new cultural norms of gender egalitarianism. Woman and men are equal in all abilities. Woman need to overcome the boogeyman patriarchy and this character represents those political messages. That’s the subtext in this movie’s character. Should it keep anyone from watching it? No, of course not but let’s not make like the messaging is not there.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    It's only there if you're hunting it.

  • @chicago618

    @chicago618

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza No, it’s there.

  • @AkaiKnight

    @AkaiKnight

    Жыл бұрын

    Why suspend your disbelief for aliens but not for the unlikely female warrior? Why is it fine for one thing to not be realistic but not the other?

  • @chicago618

    @chicago618

    Жыл бұрын

    @@AkaiKnight well if you read my comment I said it shouldn’t be a reason not to watch it. I acknowledge that such a woman did exist but it is the timing of this kind of character. But let’s not pretend such a messaging isn’t there. So sure go for it.

  • @bannedtwice7767

    @bannedtwice7767

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed

  • @samuelmeeks2158
    @samuelmeeks2158 Жыл бұрын

    It’s funny you talk about how corny they sound in old movies I’m studying the Siouan language because I have a speck of Crow Blood but it really does sound that corny translated to English because they didn’t use prepositions so it is also tough to keep up because they talk faster. I just recently found Wild West Extravaganza so I know I’m behind but I’m catching up lol I will soon be taking a trip driving to Montana with my Wife and In-laws so I’m just playing you the entire trip so my Father in-law doesn’t talk politics lol but I should be caught up by the end of the trip

  • @danielt.3152
    @danielt.3152 Жыл бұрын

    I felt they could have done better on historical accuracy imho, I had low expectations honestly, the film makers should do better home work on historical accuracy. Example Comanche historical location / region etc, the hatchet looked badly done. And much more

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you find the location or region in Prey to be inaccurate?

  • @danielt.3152

    @danielt.3152

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza it raised alarms to my way of thinking when they said Comanche and it looked like they were in North Dakota or black kills something like that. The Comanche should have been farther south line northwest Texas territorial area. The axe should have been a trade axe design imho. The style of dress of Native Americans did not ring true to me and neither did the arrows which I think could have looked more authentic including the bows. And why not use more Native American actors? All or most arrows should have trade arrow heads types imho. Btw large bear traps are extremely hard to release I have seen one up close and they can snap bone and create a compound fracture. The large bear traps were introduced in 1929 so working backwards imho regardless you might only find beaver traps starting in 1810 forward so….again I can’t see that many beaver traps being hauled into the interior due to weight but for sure a few after 1810 and don’t forget the cost to buy then. Trade knifes would be preferred by Indians as well as trade blankets

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    With the movie being set in the year 1719 and the location being presented as "the northern great plains" this was actually historically accurate. The Comanche were once part of the Shoshone and resided in Wyoming. By the early 1700's some were migrating south, yes. I believe the majority if not all of the cast portraying Native Americans were actually Native Americans. You are absolutely correct about the trappers. There would not have been any French in that area at that time.

  • @swhip897
    @swhip897 Жыл бұрын

    The Bloody Benders. I know a descendant. The Reno Brothers. My relatives. Lol. You busy.

  • @mathewweeks9069
    @mathewweeks90697 ай бұрын

    Your awesome dude and I love 80s

  • @robertayoder2063
    @robertayoder2063 Жыл бұрын

    Beaver i thought french trapper thing was wrong to but they were in texas that early if ya look into it

  • @knyfefyte1107
    @knyfefyte1107 Жыл бұрын

    Man I thought the same thing about horses… glad they added some and some horseback warfare at the end

  • @shaylacour8973
    @shaylacour8973 Жыл бұрын

    🤣

  • @beorbeorian150
    @beorbeorian1505 ай бұрын

    When the girls was running as fast as a deer I turned it off

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    5 ай бұрын

    It was her running fast that killed the realism, not the alien from outer space?

  • @ludwigderzanker9767
    @ludwigderzanker976711 ай бұрын

    Her hair is longer than the mens. And why they all drove the bow strings so funny? Enjoyed the piece anyway.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    11 ай бұрын

    Why do actors in westerns hold their revolvers funny?

  • @ludwigderzanker9767

    @ludwigderzanker9767

    11 ай бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza hey Josh, do they? The trend with the arrows starts with Avatar l guess, no offend meant. But there's no picture of any archers culture with twisting wrists. Over some 1000 years, it's the same thing like the gangsta shootings with the pieces hold flat? Just for the action? God's Blessings from Northern Germany to Texas for you and yours. Ludwig

  • @robertayoder2063
    @robertayoder2063 Жыл бұрын

    Not into the scifi thing 👍this day in age we need more of that love u said that and im a kid from the 80s liked first one least as a kid

  • @bannedtwice7767
    @bannedtwice7767 Жыл бұрын

    It's not historically accurate, but it was still enjoyable.

  • @jameswilliams3241
    @jameswilliams3241 Жыл бұрын

    How about Buffalo Road Calf Woman of the Dakota, or Victorio's sister of the Apache or the Grenadier Soldier Woman of the Shawnee who fought alongside Tecumseh and his sister as well. There were First Nation woman warriors of renown many fought in the Greasey Grass fight against Custer against Terry and Crook at the Rosebud fight shortly before.

  • @forodinssake9570
    @forodinssake9570 Жыл бұрын

    Honestly i was afraid it'll be a case of weird whining about how everything with a woman in it is woke, didn't expect such reasonable and based take

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Based is good, right?

  • @forodinssake9570

    @forodinssake9570

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza aye, essentially comes from "based in fact" i believe. It's kinda goofy of a word on its own but that's what makes it fun

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Yay!

  • @sawjack8961
    @sawjack8961 Жыл бұрын

    OOOHHH dont go shakspearion on me french trappers came from vancover way allong time before revolution why you gota spoil peoples fun..???

  • @paulie.walnuts2838
    @paulie.walnuts2838 Жыл бұрын

    The short answer : NO

  • @craigmoen1430
    @craigmoen1430 Жыл бұрын

    Historically... accurate? ... ... Hahahahahahahahahaaahaaahaaa! ... ... ... Hahahahahahashaahaaahaaahaha! ... Not a bad movie with a bit of suspension of disbelief(in regards to the lead... not the Yautja), but... ... ... Hahahahahahahahaaahaahaha!

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    *accurate

  • @craigmoen1430

    @craigmoen1430

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza busted... and fixed.

  • @tooslow4065
    @tooslow4065 Жыл бұрын

    but josh, are there any records of a female native becoming a warrior? it was an okay movie. if you ignore the woke parts, like where a 100 lb girl beats off several men who outweigh her by at least 50 lbs. she definitely wasnt a mary sue, since she failed a few times and learned from it.

  • @jn1211

    @jn1211

    Жыл бұрын

    that's what got you eh? a movie about an alien hunter from space needs to be all about realism or else it's woke? k.

  • @tooslow4065

    @tooslow4065

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jn1211 just because a 100 lb girl can kick YOUR ass, doesnt mean its realistic. as for alien hunters, do you know for a fact no alien has ever hunted here? no you don't. but you're obviously dumb enough to think you do

  • @nathanb5579
    @nathanb5579 Жыл бұрын

    Eh

  • @Bluecheese1400
    @Bluecheese1400 Жыл бұрын

    A lot of things were inaccurate like the model of the gun from predator 2, the tribes never contacting French fur trappers, predators hunting in a cold climate instead of a warm one, etc. I’d say the movie is mediocre. It blows up for like 1 week and nobody talks about it anymore.

  • @mw9061
    @mw9061 Жыл бұрын

    Comanches were in the southern plains area not northern rockies or not alberta canada. furthermore other than the brief spanish discovery of the southern rockies along the us border, the rockies weren't discovered by explorers until 1800's. the first fur traders werent until mid 1700's near alberta canada. the mass hunting of buffalo didnt occur until the railroads in mid to late 1800's. also, if 5 adults and a grizzly can not physically hold its own to a predator then a 120lb child shouldnt be able to. also, fight scenes physics and combat were way off. utter trash. worst predator movie ever, good that there was a female lead again. but, at least make better than 2/10. also comanche didnt call themselves comanche until much later due to languages of the European invaders.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Just out of curiosity, did you happen to listen to the full episode? The Comanche were relative new comers to the southern plains. Prior to acquiring the horse they were part of the Shoshone people, residing in present day Wyoming.

  • @rosevalentine3685
    @rosevalentine3685 Жыл бұрын

    Comanches had horses by the 1600's...... the movie is set in 1719, 18 years after the French fur trade ended. French fur traders hunted in the great lake region not the great plains. this movie is not historically accurate or represents native American in anyway whatsoever they were nomadic with horses by the 1600's. French fur traders spoke Algonquian native American not Comanche Uto-Aztecan. the movie is awful the plot and timeline make no sense by 1718 Canada was in war between the English and French with most of the indigenousness populations siding with the French because of the good relations we had Mi'kmaw saved the first French settlers who settled Acadie and almost died in the first winter and French/Dutch fur traders married with native American woman this created the Metis people in the great plains. a weaved native-American/ euro-American culture. Metis derives from the French word metiser it means weaved. so, the choice of Comanche is awful and the choice of French fur traders from Quebec is worst makes no sense historically with the date and what we know of the time Quebec was settled more than 100 years before this movie even takes place by the 1700 we were in the seven years' war fighting the British over the plains of Abraham in Ontario and Quebec not Manitoba, saskatwane and Alberta.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol!!!

  • @Boomhower89
    @Boomhower899 ай бұрын

    Woke bs. So sick of them Shoving this crap down our throats. The movie was decent but one of the weaker predator movies. Love your work though

  • @chastonburke6558
    @chastonburke6558 Жыл бұрын

    Great another social justice warrior masquerading as an old west history podcast. Yes the lead was a Mary Sue. There have been female leads all my life. The problem today is not a female lead. You speculate about "strong" women fighting in wars. They were extremely rare, and in every case they are nothing more than a symbol for the men to rally behind. In this movie she is a stronger warrior then all the male warriors. She can't get away from them, but she is able to kill the thing that killed five of the warriors in seconds. That is a Mary Sue. Like Rey in the Star Wars sequel. She was so strong she didn't even need training to defeat a sith apprentice that had been trained by Luke and Palpitine. Hopefully you can see the difference between the portrayal of this character and a real bad ass female like Joan of Arc.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Brother there's a better way. Get out of the house today.

  • @chastonburke6558

    @chastonburke6558

    Жыл бұрын

    @@WildWestExtravaganza sorry I offended you Dylan. Don't forget to grab your Bud Light.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    Haha!!

  • @Gekokujo76
    @Gekokujo76 Жыл бұрын

    Strange we're still being gaslit with the "Oh...youre one of those guys who thinks everything is woke" line while we are enduring a period of openly woke crap-entertainment that is pushing the same tired agenda. Im not a bad person for pointing it out. It's been going on for at least 5 years in nearly every franchise that comes out, wins an award, or gets reviewed. New Lord of the Rings property is coming out. WOKE AF whether I point it out. New Game of Thrones property coming out. WOKE AF. Watchmen, Saved By The Bell, Vikings, The Wizard of Oz, Terminator, Marvel. They dropped that new Batgirl because even they cant stand themselves any more. Im sure a guy who does historical overviews of people in that genre will have all kinds of wonderful stories of female figures and deeds from the many tribes of the progressive and noble savage. Comanche MAY HAVE had females who bucked stereotypes and norms to be more of a male role in the tribe, but she would have had a tough row to hoe when it came to the raping and killing that would be before her in that role. Rape was a sport to the Comanche. Scalping and raping children were common practices...not for ALL TRIBES...but CERTAINLY for the Comanche. Those women would have to take slaves...not just BLACK slaves (which they had), but white, Asian and Native slaves also (which they ALSO had). The Progressive Comanche, ladies and gentlemen....created by Hollywood, believed by nncompoops. There are pictures available to you online of what it looks like when Comanche scalp a child and they live....now find MORE PICTURES of fierce Comanche female fighters. When you cant, realize what a BS fantasy world you live in....and how you should keep that FAR AWAY from actual history.

  • @WildWestExtravaganza

    @WildWestExtravaganza

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe the word you were trying to spell is nincompoop

  • @williamanderson6006
    @williamanderson6006 Жыл бұрын

    Typical woke crap

  • @bryanfox2735
    @bryanfox2735 Жыл бұрын

    I thought the nes perce were the best horseman??!!

  • @dominickefrim3088
    @dominickefrim3088 Жыл бұрын

    Okay, give me some female Comanche warrior name?