The TRUTH About Training To Failure
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Do you need to train to failure to make significant gains?
Yes and no.
"No" in the sense that leaving a rep or two in the tank is still a high enough level of effort to build muscle at or near your maximum potential.
But "yes" in the sense that... how can you know where a rep or two short of failure is if you've never actually trained to real failure in the first place?
As @jpgcoaching mentions here, most people significantly under estimate their true proximity to failure and think they're much closer than they actually are.
This is especially true on big compound movements (particularly lower body exercises) that involve heavier loads and greater overall systemic stress.
The total body discomfort these lifts produce is more likely to cause you to terminate the set early even if the targeted muscle still has quite a few potential reps remaining.
Remember, true muscular failure is exactly that: muscular failure.
It's where you can't physically perform another rep in proper form despite your best effort.
The level of mental discomfort you feel is irrelevant - as long as the weight is still moving with solid technique then you haven't failed yet.
In any case, the bottom line is that, while training to failure is not a must in the absolute sense in order to build muscle effectively (though when it comes to achieving maximum long term gains I'd say including at least some all out sets here and there has benefits)...
It IS a must for the obvious reason that pushing yourself to the limit will teach you what failure actually is, and thus what 1 rep in reserve, 2 reps in reserve etc. is as well.
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@redonion2798
2 жыл бұрын
8 hours ago🧐
@MarcillaSmith
3 ай бұрын
Instructions unclear - mistakenly trained _as_ failure.
@pauladams6100
18 күн бұрын
Hate to nitpick, but most people’s issues with gains is a lack of consistency… then programming, then your list.. most people are inconsistent, and follow poor programming.
I train because I am a failure.
@adityabhagat7074
2 жыл бұрын
🥲
@Berzan_007
2 жыл бұрын
You ain't alone bruh🤌🏻🥲
@rajanthony1269
2 жыл бұрын
Bro🥺🫂
@jsaestheticsandbodybuilding
2 жыл бұрын
no you are not. We are gonna make it
@mochimentai7299
2 жыл бұрын
Felt this on a personal level ngl
Start counting when your reps hurt - Shit Tzu
@mariusandersen2952
2 жыл бұрын
@@troythemighty3683 obviously not bruh
@gaston6814
2 жыл бұрын
When you know your RPE and you're doing between 6 and 20 reps, it doesn't really matter if you count them or not, you just need a high RPE. When I'm doing bilateral work I don't count at all in most sets.
@impo9645
2 жыл бұрын
@@mariusandersen2952 if you don’t have any burn you’re just doing cardio
@dolphinman9253
2 жыл бұрын
Muhammad Ali
@Omegaphats
2 жыл бұрын
@@dolphinman9253 refused to fight the enemy of Vietnam because his enemies were here in his own backyard
Training with INTENSITY is what I was missing in my gym sessions, training with my coach for the first time was a huge eye opener. Still remember what he told me after that ass kicker of a workout "You've been playing in the gym" 😂
@halfrave
Жыл бұрын
That was one hell of a line. Gave me chills. Your coach must know his stuff.
@godismysavior6428
Жыл бұрын
How do u train with intensity
@ISuPeRTNTI
Жыл бұрын
@@godismysavior6428 you start counting reps when it hurts
@BigV24
Жыл бұрын
I was so surprised to see this in gyms tbh thought this was common sense. Glad my old man monitored me whenever I went to the gym. I can’t train any other way lol
@imdark7372
Жыл бұрын
@@ISuPeRTNTI Not really. Some exercises don't even hurt. Basically train either until you can't do another rep (with good) form or until you know you can't do 1 or 2 more reps, making end the set 1 or 2 reps shy of failure.
I have really been trying to strengthen my liver recently. I will train my liver to failure! Thank you for the inspiration! Okay boys and maybe ladies if y'all watch his videos, Funny thing my liver was already failing beforehand and didn't realize it at the time. It almost failed some weeks ago and now in FOOKIN' MUCH BETTER HEALTH BABYYYYYYY. Anyways the irony, because I was joking at the time and but wasn't completely aware of it happening. GOOD FOKIN HEALTH TO EVERYONE WHO READS THISSSS!!!!!
@mashash9594
Жыл бұрын
I will train my cardiovascular fitness to failure
@mr.buckcat8004
Жыл бұрын
I've heard that alcohol really works well for that cause
@TriedAndTrue-0607
Жыл бұрын
@@mr.buckcat8004 I take shots of vodka to failure with progressive overload
@Memesdotcom
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@OoohAaah6603
Жыл бұрын
Liver mission failed SUCCESSFULLY !!
For me it's more of the mental part. I start to think I'm tired, but when I drop the weight I feel like I had 5-6 reps left lol
@nd6467
2 жыл бұрын
try with a heavier weight and less reps
@PendlayRoe
2 жыл бұрын
That's why you need specific weight goals, like "this week I'll try 9 reps instead of 8 on rows".
@mauryjohnson
2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I feel gassed out and not muscle tiredness. I have increased my endurance and I am able to keep grinding out my sets
@ricardopattinson9318
2 жыл бұрын
@@PendlayRoe so the key is keep doing the exercise until i cant do it in a proper form? My pull up is around 10 range, i struggled to do 10 but still managed to do it in perfect from, above that is pretty much imperfect form or bad form. Does that count as failure?
@ricardopattinson9318
2 жыл бұрын
@daniel sihyun so what about the rest? Can i do 1 minute? Or 5 minutes? Cuz i get sleepy for resting too long
As someone who recently took disability leave for a knee injury, let me say: getting muscle gains fast is easy, but making your joints strong enough to handle those weights takes way longer (10x longer). While its nice to get strong, I advise everyone not to rush it, because being strongly muscled doesnt protect against joint and ligament tears. Take it slow, like a year slow, and ramp up your fitness over months. Avoid injury, build strong long term habits. Cheers
@georgechungsing8076
2 жыл бұрын
Good 👍 advice.,especially for OLDER people
@arnoldmarcus3634
2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has trained on a regular basis since my teens, now in my 30s, this is the way. Build a habit, you will see gains. When you plateau, increase volume. You can’t make gains if you are injured. Better to rest and then do more sets when your form breaks down than keep doing reps until you injure yourself.
@bricklayerlzdp9825
2 жыл бұрын
Your bones max weight is already predetermined , it’s the ligaments around those bones you need to strengthen. Your joints are made to carry YOU anything extra is just wear and tearing them down faster. A healthy person who does not lift extremely extra weight joints will last a lot longer than someone lift for competition. While the lifter would be stronger, over the years the non lifters joints would be in much better condition. Not to discourage lifting though it’s good to get stronger.
@draketurtle4169
2 жыл бұрын
My dad had injured his knee and it didn’t take too long for him to walk again without any aids and go on long walks with the dog but his knee is only just recovering properly to it’s full motions comfortably. (He is Old but enjoys swimming so that’s helped him a lot)
@user-sk9sp7pe4y
2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment 👏
I always realize that whenever I start to think "alright this is my point of failure", I start to feel my muscles give out. Whenever I catch myself thinking that, I try to block it out and think the opposite, and quickly realize I have at least 2 or 3 more reps in me. It really has to be emphasized how important the right mentality is when you exercise. When you're mentally pumping yourself up as hard as possible and *still* can't get that rep through, that's when you're training to failure.
@robbylebotha
Жыл бұрын
Also that's a great path to injury... pushing a car to redline will win you the race but 100% wreck the engine. Engines are replaceable. Muscles, tendons, bones.... not so much.
@tylerbooker6498
Жыл бұрын
MICAHHHHHHH YA RATTTT
@himeshsinghshishodiya
Жыл бұрын
@@matejko1086 Exactly. If you are so worried, why even work out? You need to get near failure to grow. Just choose machines if you are so worried. You can safely fail in there.
@himeshsinghshishodiya
Жыл бұрын
@@matejko1086 True, man, really true.
@colinnixon7739
Жыл бұрын
Stupid. If you a person who works out I. Addition to having a manual labor job, you will increase risk of injury.
The reason why people have bad perceptions of what close to failure is, is because they don’t want to injure themselves.
@dmiller4088
Жыл бұрын
Or lack a spotter
@halfrave
Жыл бұрын
No, it's because some great fitness influencers told them to not to train to failure.
@weirdflex8158
Жыл бұрын
How exactly is training to failure going to injury you😂😂
@Nikblor
Жыл бұрын
@@weirdflex8158 there is an absolute risk of injury when training to complete failure. Ever done it before?
@Nikblor
Жыл бұрын
@@halfrave no, everybody has a natural instinct to not hurt ourselves.
“Trust me babe, I was looking at his bicep”
@will9961
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 took me a sec
@Me-go1ds
2 жыл бұрын
This was the comment I was looking for 👏👏
@augustvergara6878
2 жыл бұрын
@@Me-go1ds same lol
@theterminator6121
2 жыл бұрын
Wdym
@theterminator6121
2 жыл бұрын
@@augustvergara6878 explain
When you start to break form, even if you feel like you can do 1-2 more reps with iffy form, you should probably stop. This is the prime moment for injuries to occur.
@gmann8659
2 жыл бұрын
Very true, i would advocate training to mechanical failure rather than muscular failure on heavy compound lifts such as squat. You will get away with training to muscular failure with things like biceps as the potential for injury is much less so a little cheating is not too much of an issue.
@imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266
2 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with free weight exercises. You can’t train to failure because of the risk of injury. Use machines and you can push to mechanical and muscular failure with no risk of injury.
@cavalieroutdoors6036
2 жыл бұрын
@@imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266 I wouldn't day no risk, but significantly less risk. I definitely push harder on machines than I do with free weight.
@rinzler666
2 жыл бұрын
Truth
@johnross8685
2 жыл бұрын
💯
Just be patient the gains will come, don’t over train or injure yourself
@DarkoFitCoach
9 ай бұрын
If u train not hard enough patience is ur enemy then u can wait for yrs (like most do) and not have any muscle
@iluxa-4000
21 күн бұрын
@@DarkoFitCoachbut ultimately it is better to be healthy, but without gains, than to be injured
@DarkoFitCoach
21 күн бұрын
@@iluxa-4000 u do know its possible to train and get results and not get injured yes?
It depends. If you’re training and adding reps or weight every week, you’re eventually going to get to a point (even if you weren’t before) that you are training near failure. Consistency is key.
Whenever I inhale sharply I always can squeeze in a couple more solid reps
@ratryox5667
2 жыл бұрын
i’m guessing thats because your body has more oxygen and so your muscles can produce ATP.
@Hellamoody
2 жыл бұрын
@@ratryox5667 I believe so. I already regulate my breathing by inhaling on the eccentric and holding my breath on the concentric. Towards the end of my set inhaling sharply/powerfully gives that little boost to do a couple more
@anthonyygn5544
2 жыл бұрын
ATP is produced in the aerobic energy system which takes time to kick in (long distance cardiovascular exercise) however in the gym for more explosive movements / sets your phosphocreatine and lactic (anaerobic) system are used so basically creatine and glucose reserves .. not ATP so having more oxygen is only really important for heavy lifts where you can pass out from low blood pressure 👍 so you’re probably experiencing a placebo affect
@igenesisvt8818
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyygn5544 he’s right, very well said
@miskee11
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyygn5544 na bro he's just using the valsalva maneuver to rebrace himself better. if you're doing rep work, i recommend you take a big breath and hold it for multiple reps in every exercise besides squat and deadlift. if you hold your breath in while benching you just get more reps in because your form stays impeccable, but once you lose your breath and your bracing, you start bleeding power.
Had to rewatch the vid cuz i was very invested in the lifter training to failure
@robertakinsiii
2 жыл бұрын
Same…
@benjaminbradley780
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertakinsiii Had to rewatch the vid cuz i was very invested in the booty in the grey booty shorts. Serious question to gymgoers as I train at home: do women actually wear this type of clothing to the gym?? I thought it was just for instagram/tiktok
@mscottster444
2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbradley780 they do and it is crazy. They know what their doing lol
@damat9607
2 жыл бұрын
I mean you can find plenty of fails online...😂😂😂
@pandabear1576
2 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminbradley780 are you really going to sit here and act surprised at seeing compression shorts? You think they only make them for men and not women?
As far as failure goes, I have a few easily recognizable cues that always tell me when I'm within a few reps of failure. For bench, it's bar speed. For squats, it's when I need additional time to catch my breath between reps so I can breathe in and brace properly. For deadlifts, it's when I start smelling/tasting blood in the back of my throat.
@weirdflex8158
Жыл бұрын
You should be able to estimate based on how much percent of your 1 rep max you are lifting?
@originalsmountup2019
Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@JSamad
Жыл бұрын
@weirdflex8158 yeah but that won't be accurate on a daily basis since your 1 RM fluctuates due to multiple factors (sleep, diet, stress levels, recovery, time of training...)
@Meliodas.Dragon1
Жыл бұрын
The deadlift part 💀😂
There is a few issues with failure though, especially if done regularly. 1. It’s demotivating. I wanna actually enjoy the gym and feel like I’m getting a good workout without really killing myself. 2. The rest of your workout is going to suffer, you’re gonna have to continuously drop the weight, reps and sets to continue. 3. There’s an increase risk of injury, especially with a heavy weight. If you’re pushing it to the max it only takes a slight weakness/imbalance for something to give. Recently experienced that with a knee injury on the squat.
@halfrave
Жыл бұрын
lol opposite for me. When I go to failure I feel more motivated. Although tired, I feel like I actually did something and I'm some demon. I don't try to go to failure on very heavy lifts like squats. It's actually harder and even dangerous to fail. The weight may just fall over you.
@mert_058
Жыл бұрын
Do less volume then. Do one good set rather than the 4 half ass set bro . And I don't understand how it's demotivating I don't feel like I lift when I didn't go to failure.
@mangopie7602
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you gotta be a masochist to fully enjoy the gym experience
@truthfuturist
Жыл бұрын
Go resistance bands
@iang8169
Жыл бұрын
Bob fred . Yes its just what you prefer doing and how much time you have . Ive always thought one total failure set = 2 or 3 sets going 1 to 2 reps before failure Plus for say quads or chest its a lot safer to go to failure on a machine squat, leg press ,hack squat or hammer strength chest press than a barbell squat or bench press .
This advice is OK when your form is on point. Many ppl don't have correct form and can seriously injur themselves going to failure with each excercise
@gabrielsalahi3656
Жыл бұрын
Does depends on the exercise Some, or maybe most, have very little risk even when does with improper form But yes, form is probably the most important thing to work on in the gym
@benlozier3290
Жыл бұрын
I mean you're wasting a ton of time and energy as well as risking injury if you don't have form. Form helps you target and work exactly what you intend by limiting how other muscle groups assist.
Why is it so satisfying when Sean agrees with someone?
@OverRule1
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if I'm doing it the right way. Every time on my last set when I can't do any more reps I drop weight 5 to 10 pounds lighter and keep it going lighter and lighter until I'm lifting no weight just the movement itself until failure
@weirdflex8158
Жыл бұрын
@@OverRule1 you training endurace if that's what your going for it's good but that is not opitmal for muscle growth you should be training about 8 rpe with 3 minute breaks for opitmcal muscle growth
When you train to failure though be careful to still respect the limits of your body. There’s a difference between training to failure to build more gains, and training to failure that leads to a severe injury that takes you out of the gym for weeks at a time. And recovery after the gym is just as crucial as setting limits that still produce results.
@SnowOnSB
Жыл бұрын
A good warm up and not ego lift should prevent that (in the vast majority of time) and Im pretty sure you cant achieve true failure without adrenaline, and in a lot of case, the "failure" happens when the muscle is too warm
@SnowOnSB
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure of everything here I aint a scientist but if somebody is feeling curious, Check up on google :)
@Giang_as_artist
10 ай бұрын
Train with failure with perfect form would do just fine, as long as your form is correct it is very hard to get injured
When the guy in the background hit failure and was smiling I felt that. Its such a relief as well as a satisfying feeling to hit that point.
Yep. When I went harder, way harder, I saw a jump in gains.
@XhMOod12345
2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by went harder? What did you do?
@grzegorzrobaczyk5264
2 жыл бұрын
@@XhMOod12345 pretty sure he means that he did reps until his muscles were absolutely fatigued and added more weight
@Dnite13
2 жыл бұрын
Just don't get injured or that's 2 steps backwards
@jakublizon6375
2 жыл бұрын
@@XhMOod12345 Well no shit. Effort matters, what a surprise...
@382u3uuej
2 жыл бұрын
I don't see not pushing hard enough as a problem because you are always adding sets,reps or tempo so eventually you will reach failure anyway. It would be like starting straight leg deadlifts and adding 1,25kg on each side of the bar per week, eventually you will reach failure even if you started with weight that was too low.
I remember I was told something that always stayed with me when training to failure. The reason why we get bigger from failure is because your body will naturally adapt to the challenges you face so if your going to failure your body will make your muscles bigger to cope with that. It’s just a simple survival mechanisms that the body uses to evolve and adapt
@CasualLeague
2 жыл бұрын
@Sonny theres always a guy like this, god.
@bicepbrah8179
2 жыл бұрын
@Sonny Look up Mike mentzer training philosophy .
@OlpyColpy
2 жыл бұрын
@Sonny you don’t have to take every word someone says as gospel mate. There isn’t just one way of training
@untouchable7024
2 жыл бұрын
@@OlpyColpy but there is a optimal way to train
@PendlayRoe
2 жыл бұрын
Broscience. You don't grow from killing yourself in the gym, you grow from the work you can recover from.
Simple put in the work
I usually call failure the point where even if you had a gun to your head you couldnt do another rep
NOTES: Do you need to train to failure to make significant gains? Yes and no. "No" in the sense that leaving a rep or two in the tank is still a high enough level of effort to build muscle at or near your maximum potential. But "yes" in the sense that... how can you know where a rep or two short of failure is if you've never actually trained to real failure in the first place? As @jpgcoaching mentions here, most people significantly under estimate their true proximity to failure and think they're much closer than they actually are. This is especially true on big compound movements (particularly lower body exercises) that involve heavier loads and greater overall systemic stress. The total body discomfort these lifts produce is more likely to cause you to terminate the set early even if the targeted muscle still has quite a few potential reps remaining. Remember, true muscular failure is exactly that: *muscular* failure. It's where you can't physically perform another rep in proper form despite your best effort. The level of mental discomfort you feel is irrelevant - as long as the weight is still moving with solid technique then you haven't failed yet. In any case, the bottom line is that, while training to failure is not a must in the absolute sense in order to build muscle effectively (though when it comes to achieving *maximum* long term gains I'd say including at least some all out sets here and there has benefits)... It IS a must for the obvious reason that pushing yourself to the limit will teach you what failure actually is, and thus what 1 rep in reserve, 2 reps in reserve etc. is as well.
@amb200
2 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean that people "over"-estimate their proximity to failure? That part threw me off a bit. If they were underestimating, wouldn't they realistically be training harder than they think they are
@doubtshadow1
2 жыл бұрын
Who is that dude, Sean?
@makobe584
2 жыл бұрын
@@amb200 If you interpret "proximity to failure" as "distance to failure" (how far you are from failure), then underestimate is correct. E.g. most people think their distance to failure is less than it really is. That is, they have further to go before actually reaching failure. But if you interpret "proximity to failure" as "closeness to failure" (how close you are to failure), then you'd say that people overestimate it, yeah.
@turtlemaster2.025
2 жыл бұрын
Sean you didn't pin your comment! Pin it 😣
@businessisboomin7252
2 жыл бұрын
Pin your comment
I did'nt hear a Word he said👀
@delroyreid2678
2 жыл бұрын
Damnnnn gurl
@anthonyvaldes1021
2 жыл бұрын
Bro...that guy in the grey sweater.
@aaronsahib6673
Жыл бұрын
SWEAR
@fenrirwolf456
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, he must work out
@lots3799
Жыл бұрын
Its his hair. He looks like a bullfighter.🤦♂️🤦♀️
One of the most informative fitness and lifting channels . No BS . Deffo helped me through the years . 🙌
I came straight to the comments, and I wasnt disappointed. 🤣
Failure. Yup that's what people call me
@Griffith307
2 жыл бұрын
This video is about people training to be just like you, failure. Truly inspiring.
@MilkBags69
2 жыл бұрын
Touch grass
@thememedawg
2 жыл бұрын
*Emotional damage*
@husain852
2 жыл бұрын
@@Griffith307 😂
@chaotictattoo
2 жыл бұрын
Poor baby
Close to failure is where lots of mistakes are made and injuries happen. Telling novice lifters to stay close to failure all the time can be dangerous, so them not quite getting there isn't a bad thing. Lifting consistently and building good lifting habits is more important than trying to maximize the gains each set.
@moreglutesmoredudes9974
2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit. You can never master the art of training close to failure if you never go there.
@imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266
2 жыл бұрын
Thats why you use machines
@michaelgriggs7839
2 жыл бұрын
i agree if you’re a newbie just training you will make gains no matter what. By the time you start to plateau you’ve probably learned decent enough form to be able to train to failure.
@aunox5657
2 жыл бұрын
I think 3 months in maybe once youre warmed up to the gym life you should go to failure(ofc with perfect form)
@CigEconomy
2 жыл бұрын
Nah. It's difficult to get injured lifting if you have good form, even if form breaks down a bit. The problem 99% of the time is improper training or overtraining, not form breakdown in a well trained lifter.
Well to sum all this up in a few words No pain no gain
I had the opposite problem. I over trained and under ate and only started seeing results when I decided to take it a bit easier and work my way up gradually
@DarkoFitCoach
9 ай бұрын
I had the same exact thing. I needed months off gym to sonewhat recover. Going all out and all the time is normal for me. But my dumbass just never did deloads or weeks off😂
@vyoufinder
4 ай бұрын
I've been doing this. I started lifting weights again in an effort to get more appetite and put on a few pounds. Unfortunately, I am the same weight 4 months later. I need to learn how to eat. More.
@Gabriel-rj9gn
4 ай бұрын
@@vyoufinder could you be overtraining? My problem was that because I was going too hard in the gym my body barely had time to heal from the beating I gave it rather than growing in between work outs
@vyoufinder
4 ай бұрын
@@Gabriel-rj9gn I'm still undereating. But ya, overtraining in effort to get my appetite normalized. My thinking is tht one of these days I'll figure it out and just eat. I've struggled with eating enough my entire life. Competed in 2 sports high level. There's no body fat to measure. I get cold easily.
@Gabriel-rj9gn
4 ай бұрын
@@vyoufinder I’m no doctor but if it’s severe enough you may wanna get certain hormone levels or maybe your thyroid checked out? In general I do not think overtraining would be helpful though. I understand the thought process but if you’re burning more calories and still not eating more you’re gonna end up losing weight even faster. Do you count calories? Maybe it would help you sneak in some more
Also, I love seeing squats! Really great accessory work for when your lower back is tired.
This is emotionally damaging
@bloopy273
2 жыл бұрын
Damn, didn't know tomatoes had emotions. I can't eat spaghetti now :(.
@captainobvious8037
2 жыл бұрын
@@bloopy273 You can eat spaghetti without tomato sauce lol
@jotomato
2 жыл бұрын
@@bloopy273 we’re friends with bolognaise so it’s fine
@hendrikkiefer3325
2 жыл бұрын
@@jotomato There is still 🍅 in bolo
@MineCreed
2 жыл бұрын
@@jotomato how does that work
I like that your videos are not all critiques but are sometimes just to resonate and boost another creator
Straight facts! 💪
For me, personally, I used the "train TO failure" as my mythos when I first started. It genuinely helped me learn about my about my body and where that line is. Now (still in newbie terriorty), I know when I'm one or 2 reps out from max. I would recommend newbies to go to failure (with lighter weight, obviously) when they start. If you dont feel your body give up on you, you didn't do it.
@jamesfleming1155
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I’m a new lifter, been lifting maybe 4 months or so. I take every set to failure. I only train 3 days a week and recovery isn’t an issue for me. I never understood people not training hard enough. But I guess not everyone trains to failure like that when they start b
I spent decades training too damn hard. I bought into the BS that I had to push to failure on basic barbell moves and ended up hurting a lot, and building strength, not in the muscle, but in the tendons, never really understanding that all that high intensity worked if you were on the juice, something I was never willing to try. You can work out a really simple method of building strength and size using % of 1RM adjusted to relative intensity and get really good gains without hurting yourself in ranges of 80-95% relative intensity… in other words 80-95% of failure, while still really working the muscle and technique without breaking down your form or your connective tissues. Try it. Don’t he like me and hash yourself up for years unnecessarily.
@adnanrawashdeh3965
2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@pratik5065
Жыл бұрын
So training to failure only makes you big if your on the juice?
@knowerzark
Жыл бұрын
@@pratik5065 by high intensity I meant going to failure and beyond (well beyond) every session. Obviously you need to get up around there on occasion, but you don’t need it all the time, and you’re body probably can’t take it all the time, unless you’re using.
@mikakoivisto6504
Жыл бұрын
For me it has been the exact opposite. I got so much muscle and not hurting at all, but didn't gain strength at all.
@codybradshaw7288
Жыл бұрын
Well Sean only posts for clicks, so I wouldn't listen to him anyway
And it feeeeelllls so good to get your body to that point
Thanks. GO HARDER
This is why for the beginners (not full beginners just those that have been doing it for awhile, but haven't established habits and feels about their body) they should go to all out failure for some time to find out what that feels like. Then once you know where your failure is, you can do rpe's of 7 or 8 or whatever for maximum growth.
Reps to failure: Going through the pain, until you can't do another single rep.
@lulurobot2065
2 жыл бұрын
Why Helllo there identical avatar
@katanagrrl
2 жыл бұрын
Then not recovering properly and feeling like shit for 5 days
@JohnSmith-laws
2 жыл бұрын
@@katanagrrl 5 days? Usually only 1 to 2 days for me
@katanagrrl
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-laws obviously not training into the ground enough. If you don’t get nosebleeds every time you lift weights it isn’t heavy enough
@imhopelesslyaddictedtofent4266
2 жыл бұрын
@@katanagrrl You’re using too much weight. Use moderate weight and use machines to make sure you dont injure yourself or get nosebleeds.
My heart is a muscle, and I'm gonna train it till failure tomorrow at planet fitness, thank you for the inspiration
That pain-smile is so relatable.
….so the question still remains, how do you ensure you’re actually training close to failure?
@jarhead1145
2 жыл бұрын
When the speed of your reps start to get really slow.
@bias2784
2 жыл бұрын
You can just train to actual failure
@ricardopattinson9318
2 жыл бұрын
@@bias2784 so let me get this straight, my pull up routine is 10, around 7 8 rep range, I'm already struggling, does that mean the 9 10 or more rep range is considered failure? Or do i have to go more?
@bias2784
2 жыл бұрын
@@ricardopattinson9318 Dont count the reps, just do it until you physically can't pull yourself up.
@EragonShadeslayer
2 жыл бұрын
@@ricardopattinson9318 You can count the reps, but just keep doing it until you physically can’t anymore. That is when you are training until failure. When your muscles literally just give out by themselves. Personally I trained pushups until failure for a very long time and I think that this was great for me longterm because even though I got sore in the beginning I got way stronger very fast and I don’t ever get hurt from pushups anymore.
Rep failure/ technical failure is a tough thing to guage since it can feel and act differently depending on type of movement, free weight vs machine, etc. It is more of a learned thing where you keep it in mind for weeks and months.
@smokeyhoodoo
2 жыл бұрын
Only if you lie to yourself as a habit
@smokeyhoodoo
2 жыл бұрын
This is mind boggling... nothing could be more straight forward
This was good for me to hear ty
man he pushed through so well on that last one. Amazing man
Cheeks tho
@steveo3287
2 жыл бұрын
I bet he works out
@icecoldd.e.m.o.n3293
2 жыл бұрын
@@steveo3287 😳
@r011ing_thunder6
2 жыл бұрын
@@steveo3287 😳
@breadman235
2 жыл бұрын
@KESHAV SHARMA No shit sherlock, he is being sus
@CaptainCJ97
2 жыл бұрын
@@steveo3287 aye yo wtf
I realize I never train to failure… because apparently I’m the type to yell “AHHHHH” while getting that last push in, and I workout at planet fitness lmao
@septembersticks6991
2 жыл бұрын
I grunt and often yell while I train to failure too, that's why I don't go to gyms. I don't need people to tell me to quiet down while I'm in my zone, so I train at home. Keep it going though man🤜
@yupman5252
2 жыл бұрын
@@septembersticks6991 thanks man I appreciate it
@cavalieroutdoors6036
2 жыл бұрын
@@septembersticks6991 that happens regularly at the gym I go to. Find the right gym, and instead of people yelling at you to quiet down they'll pause and cheer you on while you shoot for your max lift. I suggest finding one that's heavily invested in lifting competitions rather than making the gym a 'safe space.'
@robertmollitor5329
2 жыл бұрын
All I can afford right now is Planet douchbag right now.. soccer mom gym.
It’s so rare to see Sean agree with someone and not be sarcastic
I love how we have arrived at watching videos of people reviewing videos referring to other videos
Don’t make this harder than it should be. Do 3-4 sets per exercise, take the last 1-2 sets to faillure and you’re good to go making gains. RPEs and RIRs are fun concepts used to communicate how hard one is training, but apparently people Otten gauge it wrongly.
@mence5992
2 жыл бұрын
the problem is that 90% of people think their set went to failure. but they were actually 2-3 reps from failure. especially when they train high reps, rarely I see someone reaching true failure when they go over 8 reps. I personally find it really hard to reach real failure after 15reps, because mental fatigue become unsustainable. So when their failure sets are sets with 2-3 reps in the tank, their reps with some kind of buffer are series with really high buffer and close to be junk volume.
@LuciolaSama
2 жыл бұрын
@@mence5992 i can see how people would have a hard time rating their perceived effort or how many reps might still be in the tank, but taling a set to failure is quite binary. There are reps left or not. If that is too complex to grasp for a novice, I really don’t see how RPEs and RIRs are going to make it any clearer.
@user-wi8yz1ls4l
2 жыл бұрын
@@LuciolaSama Technically yes, but actually no. Exercise is tied to mental effort largely, whether you are conscious about it or not. Your mind is not that simple to just exert 100% of its force at all times whenever you feel like it. If that could happen, there would be no procrastination or lazyness in this world, ever. So in practice, the higher the reps are, the more mental effort it is there to reach true actual failure, and it is less about simply the muscles reaching its failure. The harder it is to judge, by the result. Largely depends on the person in question, though. Majority of people(beginners?) in practice probably don't have the mental capacity to judge their actual failure. They(or their body) will consciously, or subconsciously think "what if this weight injuries me, this is painful, I probably shouldn't do that", and it could be trained only with (successful) experience. "If that is too complex to grasp for a novice, I really don’t see how RPEs and RIRs are going to make it any clearer." - No comment about this, just wanted to clear things up about failure and its perception by beginners.
@LuciolaSama
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-wi8yz1ls4l Fair enough, there is some nuance there. Still, training to failure - whether it is mental or physical - will always push the muscles further than 1RIR/9RPE. Hence, take some sets to failure. :)
@user-wi8yz1ls4l
2 жыл бұрын
@@LuciolaSama Yes I personally think so too. Less things to think about will make workout simpler and will lead to more consistency and gains overall.
I train to failure on every set. It has helped me increase my strength and muscle mass.
@thethingofthealien2537
2 жыл бұрын
u shouldn’t train to failure EVERY set because then it will be way longer for u to recover and u can’t accumulate as much volume cus of fatigue
@Eagle-Striker
2 жыл бұрын
@@thethingofthealien2537 i never noticed anything negative in my recovery. On chest presses (flat/incline) and shoulder presses i increases my recovery from 1min to 3min. I do PPL so i never overtrain a muscle when working out back to back without off days.
@thethingofthealien2537
2 жыл бұрын
@@Eagle-Striker well it now easier to recover when ur a beginner just listen to ur body and take a deload or lower the RPE if u have to u know u the best
@neginf9818
2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever notice increase in fat loss (only if you were trying to lose fat/cut, of course) when you switched to training to failure on every set? I would love to hear about your experience on that, if possible.
@vanyel_etc8695
2 жыл бұрын
@@neginf9818 I never did, the biggest issue with failure is recovery, especially when you get heavier and heavier, and I've found deloads can fuck with my weight a little personally.
When it comes to failure, im ripped💪🏾
Thanks Forrest
Respect for the failure set.
Y’all train to failure I train to succeed, we ain’t the same 👌🏼
@kNowFixx
Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@michaelegan3522
5 ай бұрын
Gaaaaayyyyyy
It’s crazy how true this rings. I used to just be lazy, not wanting to push myself as hard as necessary. Going to failure is hard. I’ve been pushing there recently tho and seeing results 💪🏼 🎉 🙌🏼
Another quality video. You're on fire today!
So we not gonna talk about the cake in the background while he’s working out?
@christianayala176
2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment! I see that men of culture are everywhere
@EAn-lb7tz
2 жыл бұрын
ew
@lottavuorinen
2 жыл бұрын
@@christianayala176 Go outside and touch some grass
@christianayala176
2 жыл бұрын
@@lottavuorinen 🤨... No, I will not do that, do not know what you are into TBH. Regardless, appreciate the suggestion provided. Happy mothers day! (To you or your mother!)
@mf8125
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even notice until you mentioned it
Fun fact: Pink and gray are my favorite combinations now
@Whispertactical
Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for a comment on the grey hoodie guy to get the fuck outta the way hahaha
@zippyparakeet1074
Жыл бұрын
Ew hope you don't go to a gym wtf.
Thank you for sharing all the helpful and amazing content with us. I’m grateful to you. 🙏
Training to or almost to failure gives you a euphoric feeling hence why he starts laughing lol. It feels great.
Weights: you’re a failure. Me: you underestimate my power.
Training to failure can and will get you hurt, especially in the long term. Most ppl will train to failure with bad form. Go until your form starts to fall off.
@LN-Lifer
Жыл бұрын
When your form fails that is considered failure
@DirtySouth56
Жыл бұрын
@BidenPutinpants No it means to keep going until you can't anymore essentially. I added that ppl will train to failure while having improper form so it's pretty much a double negative goofball.
@LN-Lifer
Жыл бұрын
@@DirtySouth56 You are correct But so am I. Failure means- Can't go anymore WITH correct form. So even if you get the weight up but you lose form that rep is by definition a failure. 7 perfect reps then 3 jerky swinging whatever reps doesn't make 10 reps It means you failed at 8
@LN-Lifer
Жыл бұрын
@@DirtySouth56 The rep you lose form is the failure. It does not matter if you still get that rep up. You failed Same as keeping form and not getting weight up is a fail
@LN-Lifer
Жыл бұрын
@@DirtySouth56 A rep has 2 components and BOTH must be present 1. get it up 2. keep form. If EITHER component is not present then the rep is a fail.
There are 3 types of failure Technical: this is when your form starts to become bad and this type of failure should be used for compound exercises Resistance: this is a type of mascular failure where you start to feel the burn and you can't resist it anymore, this type of failure should be done for isolation exercises with low risk Explosive failure: this is a type of failure were your tempo fails whilst doing explosive exercises(you start to slow down rather then being explosive) this should be used for explosive exercises.
Very good advice thank you!
I need to workout harder!!
You train until failure, I’m a failure, we’re not the same
great video !!
Idk why but I love it so much more when he agrees with the dude in the videos he’s covering
I started a few Weeks ago with high intensity training, and since then my gains are growing fast. I train like my life depends on it😅
The best feeling is right after going to failure, like in the vid the guys starts laughing
I love the smile, you got really close.
I love your content. Super straightforward and it inspires me to show up confidently in the gym
Go all the way to the end brothers! 4 the AESTHETICS! 4 ZYZZ
POV: you only looked at the girl in the back
@unclejohn5012
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't notice, too busy watching that absolute unit.
@mehtan516
2 жыл бұрын
Just you
@jemaramos5084
2 жыл бұрын
@@unclejohn5012 same
Our family/school/community/church is better because you are part of it.💙💙💪💯💋💕
Technique to failure is essential
The lass in the back…
@Dilly_Dil1y
2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. That lass in that grey hoodie. Dayuuuuum
My eye blew up going close to failure, literally I had retinal detachment after squatting 315 for 8 reps
@WerbleWerb
8 ай бұрын
Are you ok
@deltasquad1759
8 ай бұрын
shit man that sounds terrible, hope ur okay
@claudiamarianidamato9499
7 ай бұрын
Are you serious ? I hope you’re doing ok now. Do you happen to have a high prescription? I have -9.50 vision myopia and I’m at a higher risk of retinal detachment because of it
Love the " moustache" brother🧔
Thank man I really needed that advise 🙏
oh god, that just seems like pure pain Im fine with mediocre results lol
@Ldenlord
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't even hurt anymore when you get used to it, you actually feel good doing it cuz your brain release endorphins to hide all the pain... it only hurts at first, just like when you went to the gym first day the next day it sore, but after awhile soreness is gone
Man, the laugh at the end, I think thats mostly the reaction of any guy at the gym when you know its gonna be your last rep and you're pushing it like crazy
Ty I needed to hear this
man I am constantly trying to push myself harder so I can continue gaining muscle! It’s hard when I don’t have access to progressively bigger weights and have to rely on more reps/sets and harder exercises to progress. There are still some basic body weight exercises that I find very difficult but a lot of kettlebell/dumbbell exercises take a while to get me to complete failure. I’m always wanting to work out but I usually wait until I have time to completely tire myself out with the equipment I own.
I always train to failure, there was this time I was going for 10 pull ups, and I kid you not going into the 10th one it took me 1 minute stuck at the half way point then dropped a bit, went for it again, and spent like 30secknds just about chin to the bar but I just didn't make it, I know I did absalotly more than I could've and I was happy with it but I pulled a muscell in my chest pretty badly
Do you consider loss of velocity as a reasonable indicator you are close enough to failure?
@thatguysky123
2 жыл бұрын
My man trying to sound sophisticated 👌😂
@emanuelegaddi3545
2 жыл бұрын
@@thatguysky123 my man sounding like a complete douchebag👌🏻😂. In all seriousness, if you really think that his sentence was sophisticated, than YOU are the problem
@averagebrownguy4193
2 жыл бұрын
Just train completely to failure every now and then so u know how far u can go. Thats the best indicator
@ootakamoku
2 жыл бұрын
Learning how close to failure is difficult if you don't have a consistent setup. For example facepulls, i occasionally train on a machine, at other times with random band or on rings or even using weights lying down on a bench. Reason is i train at climbing gym and its based on what i have available. Hence velocity would be nice indicator.
@thatguysky123
2 жыл бұрын
@Emanuele Gaddi sorry I hurt your feeling, my friend. How dare I do that. I shall be better next time 👌
Whenever I need motivation to get to failure I just go through the old messages...
When it gets to feeling like I can’t lift it anymore I tell my self out loud one more you can do one more now an keep repeating this till I failure
Nah im gonna take my sweet ass time adding small little weights after last session. Not tryna be an ego lifter.
Sadly I was 5 years into lifting when I realized this
finally something he said I can agree with
Failure is the key to success.
Hey Sean and comment section, relatively amateur lifter here. I have a question regarding this. I always aim to get my sets to as close to failure as possible and usually get to this range, however after a 5 minute rest I feel I could get a few extra reps in. Should I go for these reps even if my previous 3 sets were to failure?
@tjravend
2 жыл бұрын
do the 3, then just aim to increase the weight or reps next session. it's about properly managing the load and progressing without burning out
@nudoetcrudo
2 жыл бұрын
5 min is a lot of rest, unless you are maxing out. If you feel like you could do more after 5 min, you probably didn't train to failure, but it is not necessarily a bad thing. You said you are an amateur, so keep things simple and aim to slowly increase the load. You'll reach a point when even with 5 min rest you will not stand one more set.
Love how KZread fitness is increasingly turning into "stuff my dad taught me when I was 12"
Thanks, because I'm going train cardio till failure