my grandpa was in the Vietnam war. It was so bad that he swore he would never talk about it after it was over. He died last year, and he kept his word to the grave.

@katmontgomery7699

4 жыл бұрын

My uncle & cousin were killed during the Vietnam War. Another Uncle's rescue helicopter was shot down (he broke his leg and his crew was rescued). They recieved a medal from the President LBJ. My uncle passed away 4 years ago from emphysema. He was a chain smoker. I'm proud of my Military Family. No they were not drafted. God bless you & your family on your loss. May your G-pa RIP.

@properjob79

4 жыл бұрын

Poor guy must of gone through it all while serving

@tbone9603

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-gl7ek8md5j yea by the VietCong.

@coastsouljah

4 жыл бұрын

It was terrible. Our soldiers punish raped thousands of different villages young women and girls. When US troops entered villages they were under policy orders to burn houses, crops, and to punish execute villagers (who were all considered viet kong) Veterans have testified how rapings were widespread and people were often skinned alive as a warning to Vietnam villages. It was very widespread to cut off Vietnamese ears as tokens to trade for beer "ears for beers". It wasn't those poor 17-19 year old boys fault. They were brainwashed at training and it was the norm at the time to treat Asians as non human. They never should have been sent there and the politicians in charge should never have lied up the whole scheme. They were scared too. You could only imagine the whole picture. It would've been terrible. Those poor boys were all lied to.

@heysaucemikehere1804

4 жыл бұрын

@Kenyon Brown Did you just call the My Lai massacre a 'minor offense'?

I live and vlog in Vietnam right now. Fun fact : most vietnamese people I talk to love America

@vanth257

8 жыл бұрын

i love both

@trinhthehiep9690

8 жыл бұрын

Im a Vietnamese and I love America

@Moviefan2k4

8 жыл бұрын

As an American who knew very little about the Vietnam War before watching this video, I was very surprised to read about anyone from that country loving the USA. Not knowing any better, I assumed they all hated us because so many of their own died in that war.

@fitoweiwei7385

8 жыл бұрын

Thas is aweosme. Im glad to know that.

@hermungus1

7 жыл бұрын

thanks mate

"The military doesn't start wars, politicians start wars" - General William Westmoreland

@jimmyandtimmy8514

3 жыл бұрын

Except the army of Imperialist Japan.

@nicksivert5431

3 жыл бұрын

Accurate.

@snowheader2200

3 жыл бұрын

I mean we could simply condemn the Japanese for bombing Pearl harbour then leave then alone with conquering the world

@raygon8

3 жыл бұрын

Westmorland got a lot of American soldiers killed by a bad strategy General Abrams did that war the right way

@MarilynMalkovich

3 жыл бұрын

Damn what stake in this game could a general possibly have?

I was on a few ship in the Western Pacific in 1977-1979 and we rescued many So. VN boat people. CWO4 (Cryptology), USN, Ret, 73-95.

@thiccieredd9606

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, you are a hero 🙏

@vegitoblue5000

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, cause a war that kills millions, save a few thousand, then everything becomes OK.

@cyclone8974

3 жыл бұрын

@@vegitoblue5000 What about all the people the communist killed? nothing? Is it because they are communists and we just expect that from them? The VC killed 5000 civilians in the lead up to the Tet Offensive.

@sophgrace88

3 жыл бұрын

So were u in the war? My grandpa was in the war. He’s still alive

@mrredacted85

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyclone8974 and the Hue Massacre

We still napalmed unarmed villages.

@tarsis2005

8 жыл бұрын

+Steven Reynolds Not you americans, but the US army do it. To blame citzens for the acts of its national's army is agree with fascist and cheap nationalists discourse. Its a dangerous way to observe the History.

@Dogmeat1950

8 жыл бұрын

No...no we didn't lol. villages you see getting Napalm ate "Free fire zones" means the Government moved the people out of the village. their for anything in those zones after it was cleared out was deemed hostile. this was a French Strategy that worked in North Africa. a war which France had won but then the French government betrayed them

@sagisakatouko8464

8 жыл бұрын

+Steven Reynolds America did that in Japan too.

@matthewleitch2458

8 жыл бұрын

+Sagisaka Touko And Japan did that in China

@Matt-yy1jv

8 жыл бұрын

+Matthew Leitch And China did that to themselves.

Hello American people ,i am an Vietnamese and i wanna say Don't mind visit us we are friends not enemies The Peace is real if you accept it :3 This was talk by an 10 years old girl

@NamVet68SigBn523

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@TheMrPeteChannel

3 жыл бұрын

China is the true threat.

@samsmotzzz2171

3 жыл бұрын

Peace

@cyclone8974

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMrPeteChannel We should let the Vietnamese handle it.

@TheMrPeteChannel

3 жыл бұрын

@@cyclone8974 Possibly.

History is about to repeat it self, but this time in Afghanistan. As soon the US troops leave that place the Taliban will return.

@John14-6...

3 жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct! I have been telling this to people for years.

@gerry9011

3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, Nostradamus?

@jirislavicek9954

2 жыл бұрын

@Ryan Alex Too little too late

@sethkupers6020

2 жыл бұрын

@@anonymousdontbotheraboutit2895 I can’t stand people who worry about other countries more than America. No American life should be lost policing these third world countries. Poverty and high crime in America while we send Israel 146 billion dollars

@sethkupers6020

2 жыл бұрын

@@anonymousdontbotheraboutit2895 spoken like a true patriot. I can’t wait to have a fascist president

As a Vietnamese American, I love the country and the people. That doesn't mean I like the government. However, Vietnamese people have a big heart willing to forgive and give a second chance even you did stabbed us in the back. Vietnam is a war country for thousands of years and we live by the code of honor and dignity.

@ironcross3064

Жыл бұрын

So basically you don't like the government who is trying to develop the country day by day.Right?Mr 3 que?

@aofeizhang8735

Жыл бұрын

We Chinese already learned bloody lessons from Vietnamese, lol

@jamiemurray6536

Жыл бұрын

@@aofeizhang8735 apparently not, as China invaded Vietnam soon after the Americans left because they weren’t willing to be a Chinese puppet state lol

@johnclawed

Жыл бұрын

I wish you would understand that the Democratic party, not the whole US, stabbed South Vietnam in the back, and they also stabbed the US military and our own dead soldiers in the back.

@chadgaming8071

Жыл бұрын

well USA never fought against vietnam country was divided so they intervened to try and protect south vietnam

Why this video has so many thumbs down? Does it contain false information?

@louisdegaste1494

8 жыл бұрын

I didn't know much about the subject but I felt this video was really biased, so I checked the wikipedia article and, although the guy said nothing wrong, it seems that he told only 10-20% the story, and of course he only talked about the part concerning directly the democrat party :/ So since it doesn't seem to depict fairely what happens, this might explain the thumbs down

@White_Recluse

8 жыл бұрын

+Louis de Gasté you're using Wikipedia as a source?

@jwrosenbury

8 жыл бұрын

The information isn't false, it's just woefully incomplete. 1) The U.S. had achieved our main strategic objective (stopping the domino effect) in 1967-1968 with counterinsurgency operations in Thailand. (There's a possibly legitimate argument that the domino effect was B.S., but the belief in it was the main reason for intervening, so true or not, it was important.) 2) The South Vietnamese never developed their own political institutions or economy. It's hard to support a country when there's nothing there to support. (To illustrate how bad it was: There was a point where a SV congressman/general made the mistake of not showing up to an important meeting, so they made him president as punishment. LOL.) 3) The conservatives in congress kept making promises even after it became clear the American people were not willing to support Vietnam because of my first two points. To me it seems the value of fighting the war was dropping while the people we were supporting were demanding more U.S. aid and doing less themselves. It became a farce. IMO though, we won the Vietnam war. We achieved our strategic objectives. Sure we did it by abandoning our allies which doesn't make me proud, but we got ours. Understanding this complicated war is critical to understanding the limits of power in a free society. It's worth studying.

@louisdegaste1494

8 жыл бұрын

Yes: I use wikipedia as a source until I find a more reliable source of information. This video seems to be biased against the democrats (wether or not it is right in what it says), while the wikipedia article gives a list of contributing factors without any direct accusation toward a group of people. So out of those 2 sources of information i have, i judge wikipedia to be the most reliable.

@jwrosenbury

8 жыл бұрын

Louis de Gasté While I love Wikipedia as a secondary source of information, it is overly careful to avoid value judgements. (For good reason.) Yet policies have to be implemented. Judgements must be made. Understanding why mistakes were made doesn't absolve those mistakes or those making them. Ideally we learn from our mistakes and avoid making them again. Finger should be pointed in opinion areas like KZread. While Republicans seriously misjudged America's commitment to the war, As Robert Kennedy pointed out shortly before his assassination, many Democrats were cowards. There really isn't any other word for it. Still, policy makers should have taken the Baby Boomers moral weakness into account. The idea that democracies can survive decades long wars is obviously flawed. We are still dealing with these issues today. Policy makers are making insane commitments to the War on Terror, commitments that obviously can't be paid. (They did avoid the draft, allowing the cowards in our society a way to ignore the problems for a while.) War is not the natural state of democracy.

*”You can’t lose the war if you quit it”* -USA

@VittorioZamparella

5 жыл бұрын

;,D

@JamesTheFoxeArt

5 жыл бұрын

Hello motherland

@davidking417

5 жыл бұрын

When u quit, u automatically loose

@taphoacamhanh4780

5 жыл бұрын

Western spy

@vivianheo9595

5 жыл бұрын

Haha correct

Another truth about Vietnam: "Charlie don't surf!" --Lt.Col. Kilgore

The United States could have kept fighting for the next ten years after 1973 but as in Afghanistan the result would have been the same. It was a waste of the blood and treasure of a great nation.

I have been living in Vietnam for the last two years. I love living in Saigon. I have been all over South Vietnam on a motorbike. The Vietnamese people are very kind. Yes they love Americans.

@NamVet68SigBn523

3 жыл бұрын

Have they changed the name back to Sigon from Ho Chi Minh City?

@rustinusti

3 жыл бұрын

@@NamVet68SigBn523 No. It is Ho Chi Minh City and forever will be Ho Chi Minh City.

@NamVet68SigBn523

3 жыл бұрын

@@rustinusti The natives still call it Sigon.

@rustinusti

3 жыл бұрын

@@NamVet68SigBn523 You asked if they changed the name back to Saigon, and I told you no. The majority of Vietnamese will also tell you no.

@rustinusti

3 жыл бұрын

@@NamVet68SigBn523 The natives of Transnistria still call themselves a Soviet republic. You mean to tell me the Soviet Union is still a country?

Growing up as a Vietnamese Boy for more than 18 years, this is the first time I have ever heard this. Whether it is truth or not, it is heartbreaking!

@brianschwarm8267

2 жыл бұрын

It isn’t truth. Prager U is a political think tank that ALWAYS bends or stretches the truth. They forgot to mention that we invaded to appease our military industrial complex.

@cloruaclorua5938

2 жыл бұрын

@@uncleho1945 You mean 1989 tank ?

@saladbetch8235

Жыл бұрын

its the truth. A decisive victory by all means for the US and South VN. However, the North VN government didn't follow the agreement to ceasefire when they knew that the US were pulling out.

@huuphuclecao8712

Жыл бұрын

@@saladbetch8235 If it was a decisive victory then the war would have ended in 1973 not 1975 and Vietnam would continue to be divided, what the Americans did was more like an honorable retreat than a " decisive victory”. “Remember, the purpose of the North Vietnamese, besides reunification, they had to find a way to force the Americans to withdraw from the war.

@skinden1815

Жыл бұрын

What was you taught? America always tells lies.

I had watched documentaries on the ' Vietnam conflict' and on the rise, then subsequent decline of US Military support. I had been frustrated with the inconsistencies in US policy and lack of follow through. Now I finally understand why. And I thought only the current (2018) Congress was nearly bankrupt of sound principle.

@slukky

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eJWA2aivmLrKiqg.html

@douglasmccrary2345

4 жыл бұрын

It's been that way for 40 years . Only one thing will change it kick them all out and start over.

@slukky

4 жыл бұрын

@@douglasmccrary2345 40 yrs?? Try more like 75 yrs! We gave Eastern Europe to the rotten Reds, then that little weasel, Truman, gave N. Korea to the Reds, did nothing for China when Mao was sweeping up after having "allowed" Chiang to absorb the main brunt of Japanese attacks, & gave full U.S. support to that little rogue of the Middle East, Israel. We have no leadership. Ike was the best we had, although Carter was the finest gentleman in the league. JFK was a two-faced weakling, LBJ was an animal, Nixon sold us out to Red China, etc etc ad nauseam. We need an altogether different Executive branch. I say three, one administrator, one military, one expert in jurisprudence. The idea was offered at the Constitutional College or Convention, whatever you want to call it, for six presidents, so I'm not off my mark.

@stevenbrenner2862

4 жыл бұрын

Congress is made up of politicians who are there to make sure they can stay there, no matter what. That’s why Trump, a non-politician, is such a threat to them.

@marseldagistani1989

4 жыл бұрын

@@stevenbrenner2862 Remember the Time when the National Congress was Made of seasoned Military officers?

So basically we should've never entered the war gotcha

Stories are always different on each sides.

@Farscryer0

8 жыл бұрын

+PassbyU The only rational comment I've read on the comment board.

@kevinnguyen5543

8 жыл бұрын

I know this side this story to be true everytime I see my father cry on April 4th. I saw his bitterness and his shame.

@Waterwarp

8 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Nguyen That is no rational reason at all to believe one side is true and the other isn't.

@smalltime0

8 жыл бұрын

+PassbyU I mean really, you just need to read into Ho Chi Minh's own writings. He was appalled that France would fight to hold its colony, he considered the French Republic's motto as an ideal to be achieved "Equality, Fratenity, Liberty". It is rather sad that it came to conflict.

@thedudebro4469

8 жыл бұрын

+Wasp yes there is

Why did we go to Vietnam in the first place. Whats the "Truth" about that?

@BLUNTESSTBOOT233

8 жыл бұрын

Stop communism ._.

@kadafi4lyf

8 жыл бұрын

It's not the 70s/80s any more. You shouldn't make yourself look stupid online

@BLUNTESSTBOOT233

8 жыл бұрын

yakikadafi me?

@comradetovarisch9244

8 жыл бұрын

We went to war in Vietnam to stop the invading communist North Vietnam from taking over all of Vietnam

@kadafi4lyf

8 жыл бұрын

BLUNTESTBOOT233 yes, asking why we went to vietnam in the first place is a stupid question

We had no right to invade or war against Vietnam.

@barockobummer2448

3 жыл бұрын

Based

The only war in history in which success was based solely upon body count rather than territory gained, aka random hills in the middle of jungle where fellow Americans were facing dreadful odds of attacking an entrenched force at an elevated position. It must have been absolutely horrific.

@mortyjames5897

2 жыл бұрын

The strategy of fighting over hills was that it was better to pursue the enemy than let them congregate in or around urban areas, where artillery & air support could only be used reservedly.

@hochigaming14yearsago90

2 жыл бұрын

Now think about how horrific it must have been for innocent civilians who were wrongly bombed at fired at. No, it was not decided by body count . 70% of the "body count" were most probably civilians. The war was won when the south was liberated from imperialist subjugation

@fullsendcirca9255

2 жыл бұрын

@@hochigaming14yearsago90 Nani?!

@hochigaming14yearsago90

2 жыл бұрын

@@fullsendcirca9255 ?????!??!??!??!?!??!???

@bawshafft4881

Жыл бұрын

But killing people did not lead to sucess so what are you saying ?

I Travelled to Vietnam this year (specifically Ho Chi Minh City) and it's impressive to learn what their Official side of the story is... Completely different from the one the US told us. It makes you wonder...

@leminh111a

8 жыл бұрын

+c0c0456 I'm surfing the Internet and it's impressive to learn the other side of the story too. Definitely makes me wonder...

@ctna211

8 жыл бұрын

+c0c0456 Hello, which year did you travel to VN? From my observations, this clip's content is objective. It doesn't make any biased conclusions. On the other hand, the Communist party are mostly biased. p/s: I was born in north Vietnam, especially in a Communist province, where Ho Chi Minh was born, experiencing the mind-washing education of the Communist Party.

@ctna211

8 жыл бұрын

From being a global citizen, I'm neither for nor against specific countries. Rather, I would be for or against countries' actions. So the definition of traitor shouldn't be applied here. Countries sometimes commit good actions, sometimes bad actions. For example, I consider American bombing in Hanoi in 1972 evil. My philosophy is simple, I would like to find out what is truth. The truth is not dependent on governments or organizations. Bro, before writing sth to reply my comment, plz think about this question first: What if you were born in Western countries? Then what another version of you will do seeing my previous comment?

@dykyuan748

8 жыл бұрын

+c0c0456 vietnam won. that's all

@ctna211

8 жыл бұрын

Clint E. Actually it depends on the areas you visit. There were many that strongly support the communist party. It's even extreme to the extent that if you publicly show your disrespect for communist party, or socialist ideology, then you will be mark as "traitor" by civilians (VNESE: Phản động). And then you will have to work with policeman... I think the fact that you were welcome everywhere is because of VNese's tradition that we usually don't hold grudges towards everyone against their past action. Japanese, French are also welcome. VNese tend to only cautious of Chinese - a dangerous neighbour for thousands of year.

I love how the comments are in no way reflective of the like/dislike bar.

It's Amazing how the U.S. College students can be used as a political tool. Still happening today.

@philkearny5587

3 жыл бұрын

And college students are even dumber today than they were back then.

@peroh3408

3 жыл бұрын

@@philkearny5587 Statistically they're better in every subject

@dougtheviking6503

3 жыл бұрын

Flash forward 45 years . This mess we are in now . Nothing has changed. ??? Got another president thrown out of office . 20 year wars. Only to be taken over by aggressive opponents . Riots ,race baiting ,Communism. We are all stupid for falling for any of these traps .

@joaobutmozartsfan9658

3 жыл бұрын

im brazilian and when i took Vietnam War at school, they taught me that the US failed miserably because the US army was not ready for a guerrilla war with primitive traps lol

@longliverocknroll5

2 жыл бұрын

It’s even more amazing that people think PragerU is anything but a political tool. They’re literally bought and paid for by right-wing war-mongering losers

As a veteran, historian and someone who has visited Vietnam many times recently I found this PragerU video to be very misleading, biased, omitting key facts, and just plain shoddy history. America's defeat in Vietnam is a historical fact. Blame it on what ever you wish, but America failed in it's mission and began leaving long before it actually ended. The enemy eventually took over and won a military and political victory. You can spin the story however you wish but that's a defeat by any definition. If you need physical proof you have to go there. There are communist and North Vietnamese flags (now adopted as the Vietnamese national flag) flying everywhere. After 50 years and so much information now declassified and published including the Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara's study now called the Pentagon Papers, it's amazing that PragerU and Bruce Herschensohn would still be pitching the same old debunked and worn out Vietnam War history spins from decades ago. Herschensohn's argument can be easily dismantled with the truth, point by point, by anyone with a little research and study. Shame on you PragerU.

@4y6857

3 жыл бұрын

millercenter.org/the-presidency/secret-white-house-tapes

@lwiimbokasweshi

3 жыл бұрын

This video is pointing a finger at the democratic congress for why things went the way they did. Am not American nor Vietnamese. My point is what is your argument really educate us with the truth

@nickdial8528

3 жыл бұрын

You're post is complete BS. Many athletes are quick to compare their sport to war. Football is a good example. So let's take a look at how this analogy compares. A sport has a starting whistle and an ending whistle. For the US involvement in Vietnam, the starting whistle was the Gulf of Tonkin resolution which Authorized the Use of Military Force to defend South Vietnam from invasion by North Vietnam. For the US involvement in Vietnam, the end whistle (like all wars) is when the peace treaty is signed. For the US this was on 27 January 1973. The US, South Vietnam and North Vietnam all signed the Paris Peace Accords. The lead negotiators for the US and North Vietnam were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for their efforts. After the 1968 Tet Offensive, the Viet Cong in the South had been crushed. Tet was intended to be a popular uprising, inspiring the People to rise up against their corrupt government. This did not happen. Instead, the VC were hunted down and eliminated. For the next two years, the insurgency was targeted and eliminated. By 1970, all of the population centers of the South were in the control of the South Vietnamese government, villages were protected by the RUF/PUF, and there was very little danger travelling even in the country- side. The insurgency had been defeated. There was no question. Every metric supported it. In 1972, North Vietnam attempted to seize the south via the "Easter Offensive." This was after all major US ground units had re-deployed from the country. Vietnamization had taken over as the primary policy and the ARVN was on their own on the ground. They were, however, supported by US air and naval gun fires. The North Vietnamese invasion was stopped in its tracks. They were beaten so badly they had no choice but to withdrawal and to sue for peace. It would be THREE years, during which time they were not being bombed by the US, before they would be able to mount another attack. The North Vietnamese had agreed to some of the principles in 1972 but as the formal signing approached, they balked. The North Vietnamese position had always been that the South Vietnamese government was illegitimate and that South Vietnam as a country had no right to exist. So they refused to go to Paris to sign the final accords. The US launched LINEBACKER 11 in December of 1972. Within weeks, the North Vietnamese not only agreed to return to Paris but they completely backed off their demands. They formally recognized the South Vietnamese government. They acknowledge the South Vietnamese state's right to exist. They agreed to halt all military actions in and against the South and they agreed to allow the South Vietnamese people to choose their own future. All of these were demands they were compelled to agree to. They had no ability to force their own demands on the US or South Vietnam. Their insurgency had been crushed. Their conventional invasion had been halted. There was nothing more for them to do. So on 27 JAN 1973, the war ended. Which means, the draft also ended. Which means Congress was no longer funding a war in South Vietnam. That's how wars work. Once you sign the peace treaty, all the money and resources committed to the war are by definition ended. So the US withdrew its military force with the understanding that North Vietnam was not going to attack South Vietnam. The international community emplaced a four nation observation element to ensure North Vietnam did not attempt to invade South Vietnam. (Canada was one of those four nations and within a year quit because they were reporting North Vietnam's violations of the treaty and the international community refused to enforce the peace agreement.) In December 1 974, North Vietnam launched a "third" Indochina war, invading South Vietnam. In violation oftheir formally recognized peace agreement. Without any implications from the international community. There were NO US military forces in South Vietnam. There were no air strikes. There was no naval gunfire. The US war with North Vietnam ended on 27 JAN 1973. They were no longer belligerents. The US was not fighting in this war. So how did the US lose a war it was not party to? it is the equivalent of saying France lost to Israel in the 6 Day War since it had at one time been involved in that region. The South Vietnamese absolutely lost their war with North Vietnam. The US was not a party to that war. The war the US fought ended with a peace treaty in which the North Vietnamese gave into US demands. In which the US had achieved its objective and in which the North Vietnamese did not. In our sports analogy, the final whistle blew. The points on the score board showed the US had won the game. The US players went to the locker room. They changed into their street clothes. They drove home. The North Vietnamese waited until they were gone and then started scoring goals again. Except the game was already over. In February 2016, the Denver Broncos won the Super Bowl. This does not change the fact that the Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Broncos on December 20th. The Broncos ultimately went on to beat the Panthers to be the Super Bowl champions but on the Steelers win/loss chart, it shows a win against the Broncos. North Vietnam ultimately achieved their objectives. They defeated South Vietnam and re- unified their country by force (in a blatant violation of an internationally recoanized peace treaty). They still did not defeat the US. This isn't a matter of semantics. This isn't "moving goal posts." The US was not at war with North Vietnam in 1975. They had signed a peace treaty which was entirely in the US's favor. The war was over and the US won. The1975 war was separate from the US's involvement from 1963 to 1973.

@4y6857

3 жыл бұрын

Nick Dial, Football is a stupid analogy for war, no matter what the athletes say. Any combat Vet will tell you that. Football teams try to gain yards. Enemy soldiers kill each other. Football teams stop at the end of each play and relax until the next play. Soldiers never relax, they kill each other. Play stops anytime the Ref blows his whistle. In war, there is no Ref, there is no whistle, the “players” don’t stop. They kill each other. Football players sometimes get injured and leave the game. They are attended to by a team of doctors, therapists, technologists, et al. dedicated to their individual recovery and rehabilitation. Soldiers sometimes get injured and leave the war. If they are lucky, they will be attended to by an inadequate VA system staffed with overworked doctors, therapists, technologists, et al. If they are not lucky, they will leave the war in a body bag. The ultimate PTSD. Bottom line: Football is a GAME! A stupid GAME, you numbskull! War is literally kill or be killed. It’s not a game, it’s DEATH! P.S. Sorry that I lost my cool at the end, but... I am a Vietnam Vet. Not a combat Vet, but I know some. My reaction was based on the little I know about what they went through. For those reasons, the football GAME analogy is insulting.

@timstotts1650

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickdial8528 I hate to burst your bubble because I know it's painful. Have you ever been to Vietnam? I have and there is no such country as "South Vietnam" anymore. You can go and see if you don't believe me. Why? Because America was prevented from achieving it's objectives both politically and militarily in Vietnam. America was unable to sustain it's support or promise of military might (bombing) if the enemy violated the peace agreement. South Vietnam fell with the last American military and diplomatic personnel barely able to get out fast enough. America and the American people had lost their will to fight any longer. America lost South Vietnam in spite of everything it could do. That is a defeat by any definition. Sorry to break the news to you.

Super weary of Videos that start with "The truth about"

@tarsis2005

8 жыл бұрын

+David Harford The truth always seems so simple for then. I learned at school to distrust people who always have a little answer for everything

@helenjackman8984

8 жыл бұрын

+David Harford Because they are all far from the truth and just want viewers. Ford, Nixon and Bush are responsible for thousands upon thousands of terrified young American men who where forced to sign up for the draft when they turned 18 yrs old and die in a country far from home and thousands came home with terrible injuries. Now we have another Bush running for president of the USA, unbelievable but true. If he wins he will probably send thousands of young men to be killed fighting ISIS. When these cowards force this on young Americans they should be forced by law to lead, thats right, right up front, lead them into battle.

@davidharford3873

8 жыл бұрын

Helen Jackman How about this: If any politician wants to start a war they MUST send all of their children to fight in that war on the front lines. That would probably stop all wars america starts.

@HelloOnepiece

8 жыл бұрын

+David Harford That would be a not a good idea, why would you punish poor children because of their fathers?

@DrCruel

8 жыл бұрын

David Harford The irony being that a higher percentage of congressmen's sons fought in Vietnam than did as a percentage of the general population.

My country's history is a bloodbath. I would do anything to stop anyone who try to break the peace again

@ticluna5295

7 жыл бұрын

Communism party, please

@GodsGreatestDrunkDriver

7 жыл бұрын

Nope read history books clearly and CLEARLY it was invaded for over its ENTIRE HISTORY so of course its a blood bath!

@lilyn0204

7 жыл бұрын

+Pootis Man well china did like invade us for like thousand of decade... no wonder it's a blood bath

@austben

7 жыл бұрын

hairbuster ribert and your point is, still a bloodbath?

He missed the gulf of Tonkin false flag part.

@455Transam

4 жыл бұрын

The Gulf of Tonkin incident happened just not as severe as reported.

Love how my highschool AP US history class didn't talk about any of this besides the very basics. It also kinda pinned a lot of stuff on Nixon

@TheDraven81

2 жыл бұрын

Be careful taking any information as fact from PragerU. They push a political agenda to the point of falsifying history. Not that the lessons from high school should be taken as fact, either. Representatives in Texas, for example, are literally pushing bills through right now (2021) to white-wash history.

@homijbhabha8860

2 жыл бұрын

You are right, but Nixon was just a corrupt ass.

@cardinalrg5114

2 жыл бұрын

GABA DABA --The Vietnam war defies simplistic explanation, so don’t rely on any single source’s depiction of it. Research it in breadth, and seek out accounts that even disagree with each other. You will likely find the war to be more complex, more nuanced than you presently understand.

@danporter1176

2 жыл бұрын

please dont get any extra stuff on here, go watch some of the awesome actual documentaries

@jeremyallen492

2 жыл бұрын

Nixon was just the scapegoat for the alphabet groups

As a "Vietnam Veteran", this is the *"WHY"* we say: *"GUTLESS POLITICIANS!"*

@stevethecat9934

5 жыл бұрын

What about the Men forced to put their guts out. Nixon savatoged peice to though he did End the draft

@olofssonwarren

5 жыл бұрын

@@josh10722 your a fool or a commie just take a look at korea where would you prefer to live north or south? china or the USSR?

@DungTran-ve2gu

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service sir.

@RESTITVTOR_TOTIVS_HISPANIAE

2 жыл бұрын

What even were you doing over there

@RESTITVTOR_TOTIVS_HISPANIAE

2 жыл бұрын

@@olofssonwarren USSR of course

Sorry but this video completely flys in the face of fact from the beginning, we were not decisively winning anywhere in Vietnam, every advance was met with stronger North Vietnamese guerrilla warfare because of better knowledge of the land and using the diplomatic shelter of neighboring nations. We didn't belong there in the first place and no matter why or when we left the North would have dominated the south as soon as we did leave.

@MyKCchiefs

8 жыл бұрын

***** To the common misconception that the U.S. never lost a major battle in Vietnam I have 10 responses and more if you like; Attack on Camp Holloway, Battle of Dong Xoai, Attack on Da Nang Airbase, Iron Hand Air Strikes, Battle for LZ Albany, Attack on Marble Mountain, Battle of Xa Cam My, Operation Paul Revere IV, Battle of Cu Nghi, Battle of Ho Bo Woods. This entire source is created to back every Conservative decision with an astoundingly obvious bias, I'm a libertarian so I can agree with some of their videos but even those videos I find too bias to find useful for sharing with anyone else. But wars aren't won by kill count it is won by land occupied and we were never able to march into North Korea like we did in Afghanistan (not that I support that decision) and take over, the Viet Cong attacked at night under the shelter of darkness to gain the advantage and we lost 58,000 for what? To treat Vietnam as a playground for the borderline paranoia about communism vs democracy? That's why support for the war plummeted, not because we were losing, because it was a stalemate in vain. And trust me, I've done my fair share of research on U.S. foreign policy and guess what my favorite example for why the U.S. ought to return to non-interventionists? Vietnam.

@MyKCchiefs

8 жыл бұрын

***** A communist libertarian lol, that would be quiet a site, but no I'm not a follower of any brand of Marxist ideology. And every single one of those battles resulted in at least 100 deaths/WIB individually, that is not small scale, and most of them well exceed that.

@petermccallister7647

8 жыл бұрын

+Kolton Whitmire and Operation Linebacker 2 too

@petermccallister7647

8 жыл бұрын

+Christian McDaniel stupid madness, we lost Operation Linebacker 2

@MyKCchiefs

8 жыл бұрын

matchesburn A decisive victory is the U.S. marching into Baghdad after three months, a TWENTY YEAR INVOLVEMENT in a country most Americans hadn't even heard of at the time is not a victory. The American population was tired of being told "we're almost to victory" or "Peace is at hand", and no matter when we decided to end our involvement in that war people like you would have existed looking back and saying "we should've stayed for another year and it would've all been over".

Sure, sure, the US won the Vietnam war... They simply forgot to inform the enemy that they won and... left..

@boulderman1357

4 жыл бұрын

They won lmao but another war started if you wanna get technical so Vietnam 2 USA won Vietnam war 1 but lost the second war

@daniellap.stewart6839

4 жыл бұрын

Oh STFU

@americanpatriot3790

4 жыл бұрын

But ... we informed the enemies. The dead Vietnamese soldiers know best who won the war.And there were 3 times more than American casualties (let them rest in peace) in each battle.

@boulderman1357

4 жыл бұрын

@@daniellap.stewart6839 damn baby calm down

@williamcolbert4860

4 жыл бұрын

American Patriot what? There were literally 58,000-59,000 American casualties to the North Vietnamese’s 1.1 million. Plus we won every battle that major or not we won

By 1973 the majority of the 58,000 American soldiers and Marines who died in the War had been lost. Too little, too late. The US had no need to get involved in Vietnam. A tragic waste of brave young American lives.

@herberd5116

2 жыл бұрын

Super Bad no,they are not democratic

In the 1980s I was a welding teacher in Oakland CAand two of my class's were the boat people. These people were hard working and were ready to learn these skills. I was honored to work with them.

@lonesometinman3147

5 жыл бұрын

Not communist minded people right? Those were the people our brave military gave their lives for .they should be forever grateful.most democrats can't think for themselves and they believe others can't think for themselves either ...they are seriously mistaken and blind.

@seal1553

5 жыл бұрын

@@lonesometinman3147 Those were the people your "brave" military committed genocide & waged a criminal war of aggression against, that left their country in ruins.

@lonesometinman3147

5 жыл бұрын

the effort was against communist it was politicians and poor leadership that caused the mess plus the Democratic congress that took over after Nixon's resignation who refused funds for the South Vietnam people. Otherwise I honestly believe the outcome would have been different

@seal1553

5 жыл бұрын

@@lonesometinman3147 You don't know what you're talking about. The effort was to create another American puppet state in the South. The mess was caused by Nixon & Kissinger refusing to comply with the 1973 Paris Agreements.

@lonesometinman3147

5 жыл бұрын

yeah... I was taught it was it was JFKs war (a Democrat) escalated by Johnson (also a Democrat) either way ,nobody really wins in war ...only a fool likes war

The typical liberal apologists for the North Vietnamese communists - who are, likewise, critics of the USA - will often play a kind of mind game: It goes like this: "If I admit 5% of error in the side that I support, I will win 100% of the high moral ground. With this 100% victory, I will declare my ideological enemy to be 100% in the wrong." For anyone who thinks the North Vietnamese communists were such little darlings: Upon the invasion of South Vietnam in 1975, the Vietnamese Communists, led by Le Duan, perpetrated a huge bloodbath in murdering hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese men, women, and children in cold blood. Up to 155,000 refugees fleeing the final NVA Spring Offensive were killed or abducted on the road to Tuy Hoa in 1975. Sources have estimated that 165,000 South Vietnamese died in the re-education camps out of 2.5 million sent, while the number executed could have been as high as 200,000 (Jacqueline Desbarats estimates an absolute minimum of 100,000 executions). Victims were beheaded, eviscerated or buried alive. Rummel estimates that slave labor in the "New Economic Zones" caused 50,000 deaths (out of a total 1 million deported). The number of boat people who died is estimated between 200,000 and 400,000, out of the 2.5 million that fled (according to the UN). There were also tens of thousands of suicides after the North Vietnamese take-over. And yet liberals will continue to bleat their statistics and cite the My Lai massacre (ONE massacre by a rogue platoon, condemned and abhorred by every decent American citizen)... they will continue to make their movies (turning the ONE My Lai massacre into a generalised slur against the integrity and honour of the American soldier... they will continue to twist history, declaring the "winners write history" (when in truth it is they, the liberal losers, who are writing it and teaching it and declaring it as truth)... and on and on the liberals lie. The real TRUTH is that every time a liberal lies about the North Vietnamese communists, they perpetuate the erosion of America. Which is exactly what they, in Truth, want.

@v1e1r1g1e1

9 жыл бұрын

ooraseal1 You know what I hear when you talk...? Blah, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason, blah, blah, cowardice, perfidy, moral weakness, treason,

@v1e1r1g1e1

9 жыл бұрын

ooraseal1 Then it's good that I disagree with you... otherwise we'd both be wrong.

@johnwhitman708

9 жыл бұрын

"ONE massacre by a rogue platoon, condemned and abhorred by every decent American citizen" Heh. No, there were plenty of others, and no the guy who stopped it sacrificed his career and the actual murderers got a slap on the wrist - The worst, Calley, served 3 years under house arrest - for killing 22 (probably more) innocent people. There was tacit acceptance, pretend there isn't if you wish. But the real point you make yourself - the NV communists were so bad because they killed so many innocent people - let's suppose they were even worse than you claim - We still killed more. And we sent tens of thousands of young men to their deaths. And for what? You tell me how it was anywhere near worth it. Those who suggest there isn't a lesson for us from Vietnam do more to "erode" America than any bleeding heart.

@adenwachtel2768

9 жыл бұрын

Are you saying that the Vietnamese communists being cruel to their people was the reason the US went to war? So they just felt sorry for them and sent in the troops? Bullshit. The war was pointless, every reason for entering the war was false. The reason we were told was the ridiculous "domino effect"story, which never happened, and never was going to happen. There was simply no justification, history since then has shown it to be completely pointless.

@jimmiemoncrief485

9 жыл бұрын

Aden Wachtel Sorry buddy- it did happen. Ever heard of the communist Kmer Rouge in Cambodia ? How about the communist fronts in Laos or in Thailand ? Ever wonder why the Soviets just sorta left those pro-communist efforts to their own ? Research will show you the Soviets wanted Viet Nam for it's strategic location- it gave them claim to a major part of the Pacific that the other countries didn't. Tell the 2 million skulls that make up the walls in Cambodia there was no "Domino effect" ! Tell the millions of Vietnamese that Senators Carey and Kennedy betrayed that they imagined it all ! Heck- you probably voted for the "Great Betrayer" Senator JF Carey - may his name be blotted out of existance !

I keep finding more and more frequently how many lies my teachers have taught me at my schools

@yanastanimirova8786

4 жыл бұрын

​@@benmarkerson1645 Why does it matter?

@yanastanimirova8786

4 жыл бұрын

@@benmarkerson1645 I'm American

@peterloken872

4 жыл бұрын

@@yanastanimirova8786 Does twisting history to fit an assigned narrative not matter? It is wholly destructive, slimy, and evil to indoctrinate people, especially the youth who cannot yet fully reason with themselves. That is not just, and should be an American issue or value, but the world's as well. History is not merely an assortment of facts, but represent the fabric and being of the culture and identity of the nation, and if beguiled in a way that sways one side or the other is untrue firstly, but disgusting, and defaces and vandalizes the story of our and our fellow American's ancestors. That should be held up in high regard in both, and in all political parties, and society as a whole, but sadly, that is not the case.

@yanastanimirova8786

4 жыл бұрын

@@peterloken872 Yes, those who do not learn from history and understand it at a core level will repeat it. Humanity continues to embody a bloody path that leads to destruction. Some of us turn to hate, manipulation and war, time and time again as a means to exterminate whatever we see as a bother or a threat. The opposing side finds only fear and bloodshed while dreaming of retaliation, ensuring their own demise. Then this thirst for revenge is translated into violence against others, even innocents and thus, the cycle goes on.

@savedbychristsavedbygrace2049

4 жыл бұрын

The biggest lie is God is not real and Satan also.

Frankly, as a Vietnamese, I really don't care who won or who lost that war. But I do care whether Vietnam would get back her independence and integrity, and whether armed foreign invaders were still present on our homeland, dictating via a puppet régime what we could and could not do.

@candyman5749

2 жыл бұрын

A foreign regime does control your country, - China and Russia. Communism has always had a globalist agenda from its beginnings. That was why we were at war with it. The founders of this doctrine was a "Medigan," as you like to call us. His name was Karl Marx.

@candyman5749

2 жыл бұрын

"I don't care what becomes of Russia. To hell with it. All this is only the road to a World Revolution." - Vladimir Lenin

@candyman5749

2 жыл бұрын

"It was the Russians that introduced the Chinese to Marxism. Before the October Revolution, the Chinese were not only ignorant of Lenin and Stalin but did not even know of Marx or Engels. The salvos of the October Revolution awoke us to Marxism-Leninism." Mao Zedong

@havu-oj4qh

Жыл бұрын

The Vietnam war was a continuation of the war for independence, which stopped in 1954,but was not unfinished .This time the invader was US ,instead of France .Finally the US were defeated too.

@JamesIsaacNeutron.

Жыл бұрын

-Said by a Viet Cong

regardless, we should never have been there in the first place

@rickoconnell3645

8 жыл бұрын

***** as in allies?

@xinglinjiang4952

8 жыл бұрын

+dude sweet yea, because there is no oil

@badpanda84

8 жыл бұрын

Thales Silva But is that a rational hatred.. to hate communism.

@Das_Haifisch

8 жыл бұрын

+Thales Silva Neither is napalm or 3 million dead civilians.

@xinglinjiang4952

8 жыл бұрын

Das Haifisch still better than 30 million dead civilians

I'm a Vietnamese and we have defended ALOT of attacks from other contries mostly France

@johndavis3894

5 жыл бұрын

I mean... beating France anytime after the 19th century isn't really much to brag about.

@seal1553

5 жыл бұрын

@@johndavis3894 It is if you're a poor, third world country of peasants

@shingekino2973

5 жыл бұрын

@@johndavis3894 Tell that to the germans in WW1

@minhhieuao5768

5 жыл бұрын

stfu and grow some balls. Being rule by France is 100 times better than being rule under any Communism party. At least french soldiers didn't destroy my culture through cultural revolution.

@scoutvietnam291

5 жыл бұрын

@@seal1553 Vietnam is 2nd world, look it up online

If you don't read Vietnamese, maybe the English interpretation below helps. # Vietnamese saying: Giặc đến nhà, đàn bà cũng đánh! English: Enemy arriving to your home; women too fight! # To better understand Vietnamese women, look up for "Trưng sisters", "Lady Triệu (Triệu Thị Trinh)", “Võ Thị Sáu”, “Nguyễn Thị Minh Khai”, “Lê Thị Hồng Gấm”, “Đặng Thùy Trâm”, “Nguyễn Thị Út (Út Tịch)”, "Tạ Thị Kiều", "Nguyễn Thị Định", "Bùi Thị Xuân", ... # Poem by Tố Hữu: O du kích nhỏ giương cao súng Thằng Mỹ lênh khênh bước cúi đầu Ra thế! To gan hơn béo bụng Anh hùng đâu cứ phải mày râu! # My attempt at English translation: Petite militia girl raising high her gun Towering American guy stoopingly walking, his head bent So! Big liver (courage) better than fatty stomach (big body) Heroism not having to be reserved just for men. # There was a happy ending to the "Petite militia girl and the towering American guy" photo: They (Nguyễn Thị Kim Lai, 17 years old at the time the photo was taken on 20-09-1965, and American ex-pilot William Andrew Robinson, aged 22 then) met up again 30 years later, but this time as FRIENDS when Robinson came to visit Kim Lai at her home in Hà Tĩnh province in Central Vietnam (kzread.info/dash/bejne/f3h6xdKPocKuiqQ.html )

Both of my grandfathers fought for the Paris peace agreement and died in their efforts, just for the US to shit on their graves. My love for my country is so bittersweet.

@Redrage-gl6pv

2 жыл бұрын

You know Nixon torpedoed the accords in '68. right? He got the South to walk away form the talks so he could get elected.

@Soundwave142

2 жыл бұрын

I cannot help but feel anger over learning the truth and truth be told it is those politicians hippies and communists in the US that disrespect your Grandfathers' grave. The Democrats sold out Vietnam in order to get elected, they used the "anti-war" movement to get them up there. Because of that, all those who fought in Vietnam; especially those who gave their lives, died in vain.

@alexmason2659

2 жыл бұрын

Same as my grandfather's fortunately for me mine survived but your grandfather's along with mine won that war doesn't matter what other people may think we have the Paris peace accords and the NVA signatures to back the facts

'The advance of Communist Tyranny' Oh yeah, because Ngo Dinh Diem's government was a liberal democracy, as was the US backed military dictatorship that followed him. The war in Vietnam was an intervention to protect American economic and strategic interests, it had nothing to do with a moral desire to protect Vietnamese people, who in truth wanted a united country under Ho Chi Minh.

@buinhat9229

8 жыл бұрын

+Oisín O'Driscoll Thank you so much for thoroughly understanding our situation in the past.

@buinhat9229

8 жыл бұрын

your're right, but the problem is Mr.Ngo was both like a Catholic zealot and Buddhism mass killer. Just see what he did to the Buddhist monks: arresting, prohibiting, imprisoning and executing any individual who stood against him or those who fought for religion equality.

@AndroidSTheOfficialKnight

8 жыл бұрын

white dot on a black background but a lot more democratic

@AndroidSTheOfficialKnight

8 жыл бұрын

white dot on a black background still better than several millions death in the communist

@lcbp2009

8 жыл бұрын

+Android S Sure the communist is a fail system (we know it today), but at that moment in time there is nobody that can say for sure. So it all comes down to who is right and who's wrong, and no matter what you say, the north Vietnam was right, regardless of the fact that they chose the wrong system.

Tbh the U.S supporting us helped us for some time. Even though they lost, many families were able to escape from the communist regime

@pako-nsgs

5 жыл бұрын

Whaaaaaat..... LoL

@pinoquiomafioso2237

4 жыл бұрын

@Uncle Ho and live live in your shithole country, eating the bones that china provide you.

@seankelly378

4 жыл бұрын

@@pinoquiomafioso2237 it's only really a shithole because America destroyed the country , and killed 2 million civilians

@cuamanhong2719

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a shit hole if it is one of the fastest economically developing countries.

@ezraemmanuelc.1164

4 жыл бұрын

@@seankelly378 and dont forget all the other war crimes these shitholes committed

Bottom line: it was their country and their civil war, not ours.

I can’t believe people are actually defending Vietnam. Why should our brave men and women go to war to protect the ego of oligarchs and bureaucrats? Make love not war brothers and sisters🤙🏻

@alexalexalex797

2 жыл бұрын

Why they should? Well basically because they literally started the whole issue. And then promised to keep those hundreds of thousands of people safe. It’s called keeping your word and having integrity as a country. Once they did what you wrote, well everything went to 💩 and tons upon tons of people died. But who cares “make love”

@alexalexalex797

2 жыл бұрын

@Lukas Lombardo huh? Once the USA stabilized the situation and essentially “ended” the war nobody was dying anymore. Then they just broke their promises and got up and left. Guess how many died then? Directly because of the usa saying “pfff yeah, we’re outta here. Dont care anymore”

but by then , 3 million Vietnamese died. what victory can be gain over such a loss of humankind?

.....something's wrong here. i've have talked to numerous people who fought in vietnam and served in vietnam. everyone describes it as a disaster. we would go in take a spot leave and then they we would retake the same location.. look the congress stuff and it's effect on south vietnam that sound legit but what about the winter soldier report? and didn't congress want to back out because of the amount of americans we were losing.

@GlorifiedTruth

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but who are you going to believe, eyewitnesses or some guy on the internet??? Come on, man!

@GlorifiedTruth

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah; Ford was not highly regarded either because he pardoned Nixon. It might've been the right thing to do, but it didn't do much for his popularity. As for believing shit off the internet, I still catch myself doing it ALL THE DAMN TIME.

@mikesholler27

7 жыл бұрын

Glorified Truth yeah its hard. i find myself rejecting alot of shit. just because it feels biased. problem is. walking into a topic your own bias makes you want to believe something or NOT believe it. makeing everything subjective.

@QuantumRift

7 жыл бұрын

AaronArcLOL in most respects, the war was fougjt from D.C., and not the way it should have been fought. I highly reccomend the book "About Face" by Col. David Hackworth.

@mikesholler27

7 жыл бұрын

Slomofogo aside from the democratic relations with china thing. .....WTF NIXON~! EVERYTHING WITH THIS GUY! EVERY THING!!!!

My uncles were among those boat people and he never came back.

@capncake8837

3 жыл бұрын

My condolences.

@3dtv509

3 жыл бұрын

@@capncake8837 Thanks!

@andropho1951

3 жыл бұрын

Get rekt idiot

massive copium

huh, haven't seen a Hollywood movie on this.. wonder why...

@KL-fm5qd

5 жыл бұрын

because hellywood and the media is owned by the globalist they will tell you how to think. China now owns hellywood and the globalist own them thats why.

@sw.7519

5 жыл бұрын

Hollywood is more about emotion. Less in responsibility.

@oxygen7445

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe cos it isn't true?...

@katmontgomery7699

4 жыл бұрын

@@oxygen7445 you think Hollywood knows the truth? Do they make movies about the truth... or "based on a true story"? How much is that story true & how much is made up. Hollywood is "make believe" Actors play make believe parts written for them. Are the writers truth tellers or "storytellers"? And how much is propaganda? Just like MSM not reporting the news...just their opinion on a story. No facts to back up their "stories". Easy enough to research. Had family Military members killed in the Vietnam War...And No, they were not drafted. They volunteered, to serve & protect their country for our freedom. God bless.

@clintstapleton2289

4 жыл бұрын

There has been like 3 where have you been

“USA loses the war” Nixon: lets use the word withdraw Media: what’s the difference? *_KOWALSKI ANALYSIS_*

@RANDO4743

5 жыл бұрын

We "lost" for political reasons not for miltary reasons,don't get it twisted.

@davidcolley7714

5 жыл бұрын

@@RANDO4743 You lost because the North Vietnamese were better than you

@RANDO4743

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidcolley7714 is that why they lost 400,000+ men compared to the 58,000 Americans? They had better resolve but they did not beat us militarily.

@davidcolley7714

5 жыл бұрын

@@RANDO4743 You had all the fire power and used it on civilians as well as the North Vietnamese liberators. How many South Vietnamese villages did the "zippo" squads burn down, not forgetting that people are still dying because of agent orange and the like. Even with the US firepower guys in black pyjamas and AK47s beat you. The USA is its short history has killed more civilians than any other nation. I hate all American governments for what they did in the past and what they are still doing now

@RANDO4743

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidcolley7714 cheetahs are the fastest land animals on earth since you want to bring up irrelevant information lol this conversation is about the military effectiveness of the united states.I said nothing about whether it was a moral good thing or not.america was affective but we lacked the resolve to endure because of the political pressure back home,we learned not to enter engagements half heartedly. As far as the middle east thats a whole other discussion.

I'm from Vietnam Gangs :))

Talking about Vietnam War or American War, there are a lot of controversies till these days. However, there were 3 key turning points that could prevent so much bloodshed between both sides. First of all, studying about the Ho Chi Minh letter which had sent to President Harry Truman in 1946. In that letter, President Ho would want to make an alliance with the USA for re-constructing Vietnam after WW2 (in WW2 Viet Minh was helping American get rid of the Japanese Imperial) and preventing the French colonial’s re-invasion, but the American kept in silence. Secondly, after the French’s defeat at Dien Bien Phu 1954, both Communist and Capitalist forces should not divide Vietnam into half (because the divided country is always against the Vietnamese wish in general or President Ho Chi Minh in personal, Ho Chi Minh is nationalist rather than capitalist or communist, he only picked the side in order to help his people out or slavery). So, at this time American politicians again made alliance with a wrong side (South Vietnam). If there were no ideal of capitalism or communism’s involvement, Vietnam would become an independent country already and may follow the Western countries. But American was so afraid of the domino’s affect, they were wrong at beginning and they kept it wrong once again. If American learned so well about Vietnamese history, they would know 3000 years the Vietnamese and the Chinese would never be a good alliance. Because the Vietnamese would do anything to defend the country and stay out of Chinese’s domination. The North Vietnam only borrowed the military support to fight the USA, and they made sure they used it well. However, by comparison to the Southern Vietnamese they were more dependable to American supports. That why, so much resources had been wasted, and the South people was no willing to win the war. Mistake by mistake, the USA politicians were so afraid of losing face that pushed them deeper into the shit hole. Thirdly, the attack of Tolkin Gulf was totally made of fake, which triggered 11 further years of meaningless bloodshed for both sides. After all in 1973, American decided to withdraw military and resources out of the South leaving behind the whole failing campaigns, which they could be have as strategic alliance in South East Asia Region from beginning after WW2. As a result, in the end neither capitalism nor communism had won. It was the will of the people would want to be independent from Colonial and Imperial Force, no longer being slavery. The lessons of Vietnam War is the ultimate lesson of studying your enemy, and choosing the right partner. Nowadays, Vietnam’s politic still follow Communism in order to maintain the stability, but their Economic totally toward Capitalism (free trade). In diplomacy, Vietnam chooses to be neutral and ready to cooperate with any friends. And the most important thing is the will of every Vietnamese always exists the patriotism against from foreign force of domination, even the Chinese or whomever.

As much as i disagree with this channel i am happy that they have not disabled comments and ratings.

@adamcummings20

7 жыл бұрын

Only leftist channels do that

@Jegria

7 жыл бұрын

THE VOID Well i don't think they show an entirely unbiased version of history and politics. Also calling themselves Prager University is a bit dishonest considering they are not a University.

@AnkitSinghAnarchoAtheist

7 жыл бұрын

That's what left do, be it USA, UK or India.

@darinloveland6120

6 жыл бұрын

Jegria, fair enough. Fair points. Agree to disagree and compromise to find common ground and truths. I wish all conversations and debate were like this. We need this for our culture to survive.

@bryanwalker6338

6 жыл бұрын

Not a bad like to dislike bar tbh. 25-10 is a size able win

I was in week 6 of AIT at Ft. Polk La. when Saigon was taken. I was on CQ duty that morning and training was suspended. I remember seeing my Commanders (all Vietnam Combat Veterans)sitting on the curb crying like babies because they knew that their buddies had died in vane. That memory was etched in my brain. They knew what was coming to the People of South Vietnam. And it did... God Bless America and God Bless those men and women who had to endure.

@michaelpalmieri7335

5 жыл бұрын

*vain

@7beers

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpalmieri7335 you're so vein

@michaelpalmieri7335

3 жыл бұрын

@@7beers Ha ha ha, very funny! 😄

@7beers

3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpalmieri7335 Funny how?

@michaelpalmieri7335

3 жыл бұрын

@@7beers Because you obviously misspelled the word "vain" for a second time on purpose, apparently to mock me for pointing out your previous misspelling of the same word. My response ("Ha ha ha, very funny! 😄") was meant to be sarcastic.

Some people seem to be puzzled, or bemused, or scornful, or derisive, or upset, or hateful, ... that socialist Vietnam adopts the market economy even with much capitalistic flavor. They fail to understand the following # For the Vietnamese Uncompromised priority: Independence and Integrity of their Country Other goals and priorities Priority #1: Freedom and Democracy Priority #2: Happiness Priority #3: Security Priority #4: Peace Priority #5: Prosperity Priority #6: International Standing # The rest, whether it's Monarchy, Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, a Mixture of those, ... could easily be negotiable to serve those above goals. # Thus, the Vietnamese had endured unbelievable sacrifice and hardship in their long wars against capitalist French colonialists, and fascist Japanese militarists, and capitalist American neo-colonialists, and communist Chinese expansionists, not because of socialism or capitalism or communism, but because of their country's Independence and Integrity. ================ Putting it simply, the Vietnamese just wanted their country's independence and integrity, and to be left alone, IF NOT FRIEND TO EVERYONE. ALL ELSE IS NEGOTIABLE. # They'd go to any length, endure any sacrifice, hardship, suffering, ... for their country's independence and integrity.

@thihienmainguyen4314

2 жыл бұрын

@Jerry Springer -- Jerry Springer says "If the USA wanted to take Vietnam it could have done so in a few days. ..." -- I say: # After having caused unspeakable destruction and damage, untold deaths and injuries of both Vietnamese and Americans resulting in infinite misery and heartbreak for their families, the US Government had finally exhausted all it could do in its war in Vietnam. # Nearly 700 thousand troops (including South Koreans and Australians) - More troops ? # 9 million military personnel served on active duty during the Vietnam era from August 1964 to May 1975 (www.uswings.com/ ) - More young Americans ? # Between 1965 and 1975, the United States and its allies dropped more than 7.5 million tons of bombs on Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia - double the amount dropped on Europe and Asia during World War II. Pound for pound, it remains the largest aerial bombardment in human history (storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/2eae918ca40a4bd7a55390bba4735cdb ) - More bombs ? # 17% of the US strategic stock of B52 bombers (34 aircraft) shot down during the US' supreme effort at "bombing them [Vietnam] back to the stone age" during the Christmas-1972's 12 days of bombing. More B52 shot down and the US strategic reserve is gone; Associated Press [AP] wrote "At this rate (of being shot down) all US B52s would be extinct in 3 months", then the US would be extremely prone to its enemies' attacks, and the US had no strategic means to respond - More B52 strategic bombers to be shot down ? # More massacres of My Lai, Thanh Phong, ...., more "Napalm Girl", more Dioxin-caused deformed babies (kzread.info/dash/bejne/qK2WyZeHeNG6aKg.html ) ? - More barbarities ? # More US-society breakdown ? More Kent State killings ? # Etc.

@Lilhajxjk274

2 жыл бұрын

@Jerry Springer The US cant even destroy one country it can't destroy the world.

@Lilhajxjk274

2 жыл бұрын

@Jerry Springer Deluded clown. You can't even bring proof so you resort to insulting me over my country.

@Lilhajxjk274

2 жыл бұрын

@Jerry Springer You are scared of mexican for no reason it's funny.

what the hell were you doing there in the first place?

South Vietnam was a corrupt dictatorship without any backing in the rural population. The moment the US withdraw their troops South Vietnam was lost. You can replace as much equipment as you want but when there is no moral in the military and no support in the population it won't help.

@harrisingh8795

7 жыл бұрын

Hhutuber

@vule2655

7 жыл бұрын

Hhutuber You should actually start reading about the many battle after the withdrawal of American ground troop, such as the red summer offensive. When properly equip ARVN is able to halt and push back the advancement of North Vietnam regular troops. It all about supply, while North Vietnam is being resupply by Russia and China, the US did not keep their words so all supply were cut off. It is hard to fight an enemy when you're limited to just 30 rounds per soldiers.

@andyprice8067

7 жыл бұрын

VU LE you are absolutely right , we pulled out in 1973 you guys fought off the aggressors for 2 years until you lost our aid to resupply you , I was there in 68-69-70 Quang Nam province Que Son Valley 1st Marine Div.

@vule2655

7 жыл бұрын

Andy Price Thank you for your service and sacrifice Sir.

@jeffsanders1609

7 жыл бұрын

So was South Korea but a dictatorship that is not communist is better than a communist one. They also fall faster than communism. Why do you think Castro is still in power but the other Latin American dictatorships are gone? It's because communism last longer. Look at South Korea now. LG, Hundai, Samsung, Kia and others have been produced while North Korea sucks. The same thing in Vietnam. The dictatorship in South Vietnam would have been gone by now but the communist one is still there. You can think liberalism for that screw up.

Dude, you guys back day, literally bombed our hospital where patients were taking a pills, bombed our school where kids were on a break after having a long day at classroom. This ,my friend, still wound our innocent souls P/s my apologies for my bad grammar

@murphd018

3 жыл бұрын

This is prageru about as intellectual as a dead fish crab

@levvy3006

3 жыл бұрын

The Spetsnaz destroyed the Americans in Vietnam. 2000 dead Americans for every 1 Spetsnaz killed. America is a weak country that acts tough.

@tinasmith1382

3 жыл бұрын

@@levvy3006no not really were one of the biggest military superpowers on the planet if you call that weak then Your just a idiot how doesn't now what there taking about

@jasonduong5605

3 жыл бұрын

@nhà độc tài Yang Wen Li I agree!

@tuanskywalker8240

3 жыл бұрын

@nhà độc tài Yang Wen Li Oh please shut up you traitor

the whole war was a SHAME

This story needs to be told because it is not making the textbooks nor the popular understanding of how this war really ended.

@7schlafer886

4 жыл бұрын

Because its Not Like IT happened

@supobostarman

3 жыл бұрын

@@7schlafer886 wrong.its EXACTLY how it happened. I was there.

Visited Vietnam, North and South, and asked students about the war... animosity against “America?” We were there 30 years... the Vietnamese have been fighting China for 300 years. Historic perspective. What’s more, the people are very happy to meet people from all over the world... except their Vietnam War Ally... Russians.

@ThanhNguyen-ng1th

6 жыл бұрын

it not true. Russia were one of VN allies; I am new generation after the war but I always have sympathy with Russian cause of what they did for us . But today in the world, nation interest first not only VN or US or Russia, any country may want the independence and respect from rest of the world. Do you think US is bigest, NO, see China and think again. Vietnamese have two thousand years traditional against China not 300 years.

@YumiSumire

5 жыл бұрын

That's because Russian don't visit Vietnam

@georgevarner7935

5 жыл бұрын

Is Nha trang no longer in Vietnam? There are more Russians than Vietnamese there.

@tommanh1302

5 жыл бұрын

@@ThanhNguyen-ng1th actually, the US is bigger than China, both geographically and politically. And don't patronize the Russians, they assisted you North to spread their communism ideology, which was to rival the US and its allies' power in the Cold War.

@YumiSumire

5 жыл бұрын

George Varner Really? I have no idea.

True and accurate! I know. I was there with US Army in 1972!

@1968weedsmoke

5 жыл бұрын

Untrue, and completely inaccurate propaganda

@1968weedsmoke

5 жыл бұрын

@Dead Boy You made a deal and then you violated that deal, which would have peacefully reunited Vietnam under a government elected by the people of South Vietnam. They were not forced into anything. In fact it was Nixon & Kissinger who were forced to concede. You don't want to take over countries? your record says otherwise; you're currently trying to take over Venezuela.

@1968weedsmoke

5 жыл бұрын

@Dead Boy People are starving in Gaza. What doesn't the US intervene against Israel if it is so concerned about starving people???

@1968weedsmoke

5 жыл бұрын

@Dead Boy A ridiculous response

@1968weedsmoke

5 жыл бұрын

@Dead Boy You clearly have no understanding of the Vietnam war. The people of South Vietnam did not need or want your "help." The people you were "saving" fought to get rid of you and your corrupt dictatorships that you imposed on them. The North was helping the South Vietnamese resistance get rid of you.

The American equivalent of the "Dolchstosslegende"

Letting the French back in at the end of WWII is where the "war" was lost.

@DeadPizza

3 жыл бұрын

Yes there is. Just not for you

Hahahahahahahahaha! What a joke! The US "won" the Vietnam War the same way they "won" the Korean War! It was a stalemate in Korea in 1953 and a stalemate in Vietnam in 1973. But the war continued because the US did not defeat the North into surrendering! Just like the USSR LOST in Afghanistan in 1992, the US LOST in Vietnam in 1975!

@mazzardso2705

7 жыл бұрын

not true

@jezze50

7 жыл бұрын

wont Oh? Where im i wrong?

@mazzardso2705

7 жыл бұрын

Jesse Ramirez not sure forget my retarded comment

@jezze50

7 жыл бұрын

wont ohhh ok

@AdolfHitlerMemeLord

7 жыл бұрын

They did win the Korean War though, they stopped the death tyranny of millions of people. They successfully stopped an invasion, they did not attack. Stopping Death is winning.

I left with the last Air Force combat unit left in Vietnam. I remember a lot of words shared and promises made, which were not kept. Reminded me of the "treaties" between the Native Americans and the US. We had it won, however... Unfortunately, this is so true.

@kevinchnag1581

5 жыл бұрын

Legit the guy had nothing about the Hmong people helping them. Like come on my Culture can to America because the vitemnanmese people were killing us. Im not saying he is wrong and all but he should really include that Hmong people were related to this and helped amercians to win the war... not win just run

@TriNguyen-wg5np

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mr chief Joe for your sacrifice in Nam We ( south Vietnamese) are forever in debt to 58000 US Service personnel

@seal1553

5 жыл бұрын

@@TriNguyen-wg5np A Vietnamese thanking an American soldier for their "sacrifice" in Nam is like a Polish person thanking a German soldier for their sacrifice in Poland

@TriNguyen-wg5np

5 жыл бұрын

seal1 the south Vietnamese never thought the US as an invader... we fought along side with the US to stop the tyranny of communism The Us never wanted any land from The Republic of VN You only see Vietnam war under the North Vietnamese point of View and label the south Vietnamese as bad guy During Vietnam war the civilians alway run toward the ARVN for protection Hundreds thousands people from the north flee to the south in 1954... hundred thousands or millions run away from the North ( the one you think is the good guy) In 1975. And wow , when you compared the US as Germany, Just like anti America propaganda And I never be ashamed to say Thank to the US who fought with us.

@seal1553

5 жыл бұрын

@@TriNguyen-wg5np The South Vietnamese most certainly did see the US as an invader, and its installed puppet regimes as nothing but a continuation of colonialism. That is why there was an uprising in the South against the American backed regime there. You only see the war from the American point of view. No, the South Vietnamese resistance were the good guys. The US and its murderous puppet regimes were the bad guys. "During Vietnam war the civilians always run toward the ARVN for protection" They ran to where the bombs weren't being dropped. "Hundreds thousands people from the north flee to the south in 1954..." People went in both directions. A propaganda campaign led by Colonel Edward Lansdale called "Operation Exodus," encouraged people to come South with promises of land & livelihood. Yes I compare the US to the Nazis. The American attack on your country slaughtered millions. You should be ashamed.

I am still ashamed for voting Democratic most of my adult life. Please forgive me, Lord!

@colinnguyen2150

4 жыл бұрын

You are forgiven by me, if it means anything

@TuanAnhTPBQ

4 жыл бұрын

@@colinnguyen2150 Thanks, brother.

@fljetgator1833

4 жыл бұрын

@@TuanAnhTPBQ .. Me too 😎🚬 Pass the word

@LaNguyenBTong

4 жыл бұрын

I forgive you.

@michaelstodovski2219

4 жыл бұрын

You people are like a cult or a sect.

No amount of bombs or death can break a peoples cry for freedom especily from a foreign enemy.

@iraniansuperhacker4382

3 жыл бұрын

we never gave the Vietnamese freedom of choice, in fact our country did everything in its power to sabotage them.

@nicbahtin4774

3 жыл бұрын

@KZread Deleted my Other Account for Mean Comments It's wired cause kissenger was anti Israel. So you expect them to bash him.

Now, keep in mind this is a war we should never have joined in the first place. It was a civil war in a sovereign nation that we had no right to intrude on. In this case, just as in every case, the U.S. has no ability to make peace between warring factions. We can go in and bully one side or the other (or both) and tell them to play nice, but as soon as we leave, they're going to go right back to fighting. We're seeing this in Iraq right now. We should have just kept our nose out of it. We were fighting the advancement of communism, but by our own account communism doesn't work and was bound to fail anyway ... AND IT DID! Russia fell, China has become better capitalists than the U.S., and today we are TRADING PARTNERS with Vietnam! So, in the end what did we fight for? NOTHING! All of those dead men, women and children ... for NOTHING. Communism was going to fail anyway because it's an unsustainable model. We didn't need to fight it. It is its own worst enemy. If we had just stayed out from the start, the war would have been over MUCH sooner. Fewer people would have died. And we could have become trading partners much sooner, increasing prosperity for everyone.

@PlayStationMan55

10 жыл бұрын

I disagree, but you do have some good arguments. The question is: Is it worth leaving the people of South Vietnam to suffer the way that they did? If North and South Vietnam remained separate could the South have become like South Korea or Thailand? Vietnam today is not nearly as bad as North Korea, but it is still a very poor country still with an oppressive government. Yes, Communism was bound to fail, but it wrecked so many lives in the process and recovery will take a long time in the future.

@chubbyninja842

10 жыл бұрын

PlayStationMan55 Either way, it's still none of our business. Our constitution grants us no authority to deal in the affairs of other sovereign nations. Our founders warned us AGAINST entangling alliances.

@ahemcoughaaargh

10 жыл бұрын

PlayStationMan55 The only suffering the people of South Vietnam experienced was as a result of American violence, and the terror state installed by Washington in South Vietnam. The question is: what right did the US have to attack & invade South Vietnam, cancel the nationwide free elections in 1956, impose a brutal dictatorship in South Vietnam, and commit genocide against the people of Indochina?

@PlayStationMan55

10 жыл бұрын

ahemcoughaaargh Did your professor for your course in feminist studies teach you about the Vietnam War when she was high on dope? I see that historical facts are not your strong point.

@ahemcoughaaargh

10 жыл бұрын

PlayStationMan55 What the hell does feminism have to do with the Vietnam war? Everything I said was factual. Fact 1 - The United States installed the Diem dictatorship in South Vietnam in 1954. Fact 2 - The Diem dictatorship cancelled the nationwide free elections in 1956 when it became obvious he would lose. Fact 3 - The US organized a massive terrorist attack against South Vietnam through the Diem dictatorship, targeting the nationalist forces which had fought the French. Fact 4 - between 1954 & 1961 the US installed dictatorship had killed 70-80,000 people, from 1961 to the early 1965 escalation another 90,000 South Vietnamese were killed, tens of thousands of political prisoners were imprisoned. Fact 5 - the murderous repression in South Vietnam led to the formation of a resistance movement which began defending South Vietnam from the American attack, the US then outright invaded South Vietnam organizing a counterinsurgency, bombing, destruction of food crops and "population control" Fact 6 - The US began bombing North Vietnam in 1965 with the purpose of trying to get the North to use its influence to call of the resistance in the South. Fact 7 - Between 3 - 4 million Vietnamese men, women and children were slaughtered in the American war of aggression, 600,000 Cambodians & 350,000 Laotians were slaughtered by the US genocidal bombing raids.

Those of us that lived through that era know this to be an accurate description of events. It was the beginning of the long cycle of decay in America that continues to this day. The "Me" generation was gaining power and the "We" generation was kicked to the curb. That has led us to where we are now.

@chaz706

10 жыл бұрын

And it's happened again in Iraq. The surge in 2007-2008 had secured stability in Iraq. The Democrats insisted on pulling out in 2011. Now ISIS/ISIL is rampaging across Iraq... wiping out the hard fought gains that the veterans of them most recent generation (MY GENERATION) sacrificed so much to gain. I spit upon the republicans for their failure to uphold the oaths of office so entrusted to them... but I DESPISE the democrats for being OUTRIGHT TRAITORS to MY nation and MY PEOPLE.

@stanparrish1

10 жыл бұрын

Charles Hammond Jr I certainly understand where you are coming from. There is an old saying that those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Americans in general have the memory retention of a grasshopper. They knew what the democrats stood for and elected them anyway. That is why history is repeating itself. Some of your contempt could be saved for those people willing to sacrifice their country for a free phone or something else that other people have to pay for. Mainstream republicans seem to be more focused on being liked rather than doing what is best for the country. They also deserve a healthy donation of your saliva. Conservative republicans did try but they are to small a minority to accomplish anything without mainstream republicans and democrats willing to face down the liberal elite. Democrat leadership are too smart not to learn from history and to do all the stupid things they are doing. Treason for personal gain seems to be the only logical explanation. They are truly a disgusting breed.

@SpookMSgt

10 жыл бұрын

DrStrangel0ve2 What a surprise -- another Democrat whining like a little girl. I notice you can't dispute one bit of what he says about the liberal twats selling out the Vietnamese people.

@stanparrish1

10 жыл бұрын

DrStrangel0ve2 I see that you really know nothing about that era. There are far to many gaps to be filled in. But I see history repeating itself again. We won the war but had to leave before we could secure the peace causing the whole thing to break down leading to mass deaths, reeducation camps, and the boat people. I see the same thing starting to happen now in Iraq. History is something to be studied and learned from. Not ignored because it happened before you were born. Those who do not learn the lessons of the past are doomed to repeat it.

@stanparrish1

10 жыл бұрын

DrStrangel0ve2 The Maine. Wow. That wasn't very long after the Civil War. How did you dig that one up? You must have sucked some history up. Wait a minute. Did you just learn from history? Even then the lesson of history in that matter is not to jump to conclusions without evidence. So that isn't a good example to support your position. Actually there are no good examples to support your position. Sometimes the lessons are good, sometimes bad. Shows the good side of human nature and the bad. Shows winning strategies and losing strategies. How to prevent a Hitler or stop a Hitler. Good causes for war and bad reasons for war. We have to learn the right lessons to secure the peace or history will keep repeating itself over and over. Wishful thinking or nit-picking wont do it. There was an effective strategy for securing the peace after the Civil War. We remembered that lesson after WW2 but forgot after VietNam and Iraq.

Americans are sorry for what their veterans went through, but will never apologize to what the Vietnamese went through.

@cardinalRG

6 ай бұрын

Which Americans do you think should apologize?

@cardinalRG_is_a_liar

6 ай бұрын

@@cardinalRG

Make a video on why did America invade vietnam

I am Vietnamese and I like America. However, In the war, America has been wrong in the origination. American shouldn't involve first Indochina war and backed for French to restore Indochina Federation. In 1945, Vietnam has coalition government,pro-America and Ho Chi Minh president wrote declaration of Independence with the quoting "American declaration of Independence" to show the friendly corporate to America. However, American refused to shake hands to Vietnam and pushed Vietnam to Communist

@rayanehamaidi5050

7 жыл бұрын

no no...youre the strongest country in the world you beated france south vietnam(supported by usa) usa china and cambodia....wow your so mighty and i really mean it

@CrazyGordon

7 жыл бұрын

Wow, you north bought communism for yourselves and now blame the US for communism?

@rayanehamaidi5050

7 жыл бұрын

Crazy Gordon blaming us for comunisme?hhhhhh nice joke man u made my day

@lethanh4480

7 жыл бұрын

+Crazy Gordon I don't blame on anyone. Most of Vietnamese don't care about Communism or Capitalism, we only care independence, freedom for our nation. USA supported French to catch Vietnam into slave society like this before. If US had supported for Vietnam Independence instead of backing for French, Vietnam war would have never been occured

@normoloid

7 жыл бұрын

Communists don't dig borders nor independence or freedom, your argument has no basis in reality.

Amazing! I have a degree in history from a state institution and never learned this in my US-Vietnam War course, regarding the whole story behind the Paris Peace Accords.

Truth, without politics. They all won.

Wow! I grew-up in that era and was a member of the Armed Forces at that time. Any Vietnam Era Veteran might well take a 5 minute Listen. It is a disgrace to our Nation (what we allowed to occur), and it cost millions of South Vietnamese their lives. A Tragedy and a Travesty. My LOVE is for the Fallen Heroes who will never learn of this betrayal and those who came back lacking public support and scarred from a war (conflict) we purposefully lost

My dad was an officer on a US frigate (USS Badger) and they helped rescue several boats full of escaping Vietnamese in the late 80s. A couple of years ago one of the survivors who was a little girl at the time connected with him and told us how horrific it was.

👍Breaks my heart. I was in the Army during Vietnam war, stayed stateside due to bad injury. Lost several friends from fierce fighting. Young guys died for nothing. Never thought we, the mighty US would give up and sell out our ally and betray our loyal military, but we did.✌

@chiefskeefs505

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah and how many civilians did you kill?

@charlottewalker6490

3 жыл бұрын

Gregg, could you tell me the real reason for this horrible war in the first place?

@hinken3716

2 жыл бұрын

Then why did you go there in the first place?

@anthonyrhodes8042

2 жыл бұрын

@@hinken3716 Maybe he was drafted.

Don't forget the Tet Offensive, Our military won handily , except Walter Cronkite said we didn't. Big Political win for North Vietnam

@slukky

4 жыл бұрын

Old Crankcase should have known better, but he let his Communist-sympathizing colleagues persuade him against his own better judgment. Maggie Higgins was by far the better journalist-reporter. OUR VIETNAM NIGHTMARE.

@patriciat1514

4 жыл бұрын

Did you know Cronkite was a one world government supporter? I heard him taped speaking at a dinner probably in the 80s where he referred to Pat Robertson pointing out that antichrist/Satan would be leader of end times one world government. Cronkite laughingly said he was proud to be on the side of Satan then.

@slukky

4 жыл бұрын

@@patriciat1514 Could just have been the deranged humor of the disbeliever. I don't think Crankcase was a very bright guy, just your friendly uncle type. The camera liked him too.

@patriciat1514

4 жыл бұрын

@@slukky I googled Walter Cronkite one world government and found some interesting info there. Also, the video is on Utube. It was actually at a UN event. He was sinister.

@slukky

4 жыл бұрын

@@patriciat1514 Take away your own opinion/s-- kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKOrw8GKpaqxpbA.html

A new Hollywood movie on this would be great.. but , we all know that will never happen

@lmka8949

4 жыл бұрын

@Cardinal RG 😆😆 right 👍

There no victory in war but suffering

@monkeyman2.0.11

2 жыл бұрын

World War 2: wtf

We shouldn't have been there in the first place.....BUT.... it is unbelievably aggravating to hear people claim that America was dealt some sort of military defeat. The U.S. won every single major battle of the war, and inflicted many more casualties on the North Vietnamese than they inflicted on the U.S.. It was a waste of lives, and it was a pointless war, that alone is a sufficient condemnation, no need to lie.

@Stillseeingreen

8 жыл бұрын

I thought my comment was sufficiently narrow but since people are still confused, allow me to re-phrase. The Americans had far more success on the battlefield but still didn't achieve their geopolitical goals in the region. America's defeat in vietnam wasn't a military one. Also I'm not a fan of the war, and I don't think we should have been there. I just want people to be accurate in their criticism.

@4y6857

8 жыл бұрын

You said, "We shouldn't have been there in the first place..." I agree with you about that, but then... "The U.S. won every single major battle of the war..." Two problems with that: 1. We didn't win every major battle. If we had, "We Were Soldiers" (aka The Battle of Ia Drang) would never have been made. Simply google "Major Vietnam Battles the US lost" and you'll get several lists of "battles" we lost. 2. Viet Nam was not a "battlefield" war. It was a guerilla war. Most of the engagements were brief encounters with Viet Cong or NVA forces. The time and place of those engagements were determined by them, they decided when to start, and they decided when to disengage and fade back into the jungle. "You can't fight an enemy you can't find." was a common complaint.

@Stillseeingreen

8 жыл бұрын

The US defeated the North Vietnamese in the Ia Drang Valley if you measure victory in terms of casualties inflicted. The North Vietnamese of course just turned right around and re-occupied the valley after the US pulled out, which speaks to your other point about the war being unconventional. U.S. soldiers complaining about the conditions in which they fought, or the unsatisfying goals of their missions (frequent search and destroy missions) doesn’t really tell us much about the actual state of the conflict, just their morale, which would obviously be low in an unpopular war with no clear objectives. I didn’t deny that the war was unconventional, and obviously it was different than what came before it, but the U.S. inflicted far more causalities on their opponents and were thwarted in entering and seizing territory far less often than their opponents. The territory seized can be written off as “the Vietnamese were stealthy and snuck away when they needed to”, and that explanation fits fairly well with historical accounts and extremely well with cinematic accounts, but one side taking horrific causalities and inflicting relatively few in return is harder to write off as just a strategy. Reminder: I think the war was a tremendous waste and the U.S. was not morally justified in their intervention, I only add this because I feel weird being this close to “defending the Vietnam war” and don’t want anyone to become confused and try to explain to me that the North ended up controlling the South in the end anyway.

@4y6857

8 жыл бұрын

Brett Lewis Let me step back for a minute. I'm a Vietnam Era Vet. I've spent the last two to three years researching that war, the reasons behind it and our involvement in it. (Some would say I've been immersed in the topic. My wife would say I've been obsessed with it. Over the years (37, so far) I've learned that she's usually right about things like that.) I have to admit that I've developed a few reflexive responses to certain comments and phrases. I know you had no intention in doing so, but a couple of things you said triggered a reflex response from me. Perhaps a better way of saying that is, my interpretation of something you said triggered... More than once I've been backed into the uncomfortable position of feeling as though I have to defend a position or point of view that I don't personally believe. I suspect that may be what I'm doing here to you. From your first comment you've been clear and consistent in stating that our involvement was a mistake, and I agree. Please excuse my overzealousness in picking nits over the details. Thank you for your thoughts and interest.

@demongrenade2748

8 жыл бұрын

You dont win a war by inflicting casualties, you win by taking territory. Everything else you said I agree with though.

America abandoning an ally? How shocking!

maybe best example of "alternate facts" ever

Don't ever vote Dem again.

@mosesberkowitz3298

5 жыл бұрын

I’m voting for Nixon.

@adorabledeplorable5105

5 жыл бұрын

D P Only did once .

@DPoner

5 жыл бұрын

Donnie Orangutan Nope

@normanalvarez5751

5 жыл бұрын

@Donnie Orangutan It's OK know-it-all I'll stick to the republicans

When the trees start speaking vietnamese Americans: confused screaming

@skeetrix5577

5 жыл бұрын

inVietnam, when the trees start speaking vietnamese you know your already dead,

@michaelpalmieri7335

5 жыл бұрын

@@skeetrix5577 *you're

@maistrianpolitics

5 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpalmieri7335 you actually have no value left in life to go to 2 comments/replies and criticise their spellings.

@michaelpalmieri7335

5 жыл бұрын

@@skeetrix5577 Why don't you eat a grammar book?

@michaelpalmieri7335

5 жыл бұрын

@@maistrianpolitics Fine, if you want everyone to remain ignorant and illiterate all their lives.

Wow, interesting, Thanku for addressing that...

"*Oh yeah we won the war, by LEAVING VIETNAM thats for sure, yey we won, we're leaving but we won*"

@Romanov117

4 жыл бұрын

The US left Vietnam, only a couple of years later until the North invades again.

@arthurmorgan3260

4 жыл бұрын

White343 Yeah, the US never beat the North and when the US left the North won.

@Romanov117

4 жыл бұрын

Arthur Morgan All they did is to bomb the North and stopped the largest North Vietnamese Offensive during the Easter Offensive in 1972, it's more of a Defensive War on South Vietnam against PAVN. They did not go further North or there are consequences to unleash a Nuclear War with USSR and the CCP. Edit: After the Easter Offensive, the US won the Vietnam War in the first phase until the Paris Peace Accords is signed and the majority of the US Military including other Foreign Military and Aid aligned with South Vietnam, left. It took two years for the North to attack again which is after the Peace Treaty is signed. I call this the "Second Vietnam War".

@arthurmorgan3260

4 жыл бұрын

White343 Well yeah, if you classify the part where Vietnam actually won as a separate war, than you can dishonestly claim that America one the original one.

@Romanov117

4 жыл бұрын

Arthur Morgan I highly recommend you by reading the Biography of President Thiēu, a former President of South Vietnam. Also, Vietnam didn't win, they were separated and only the North won against a softened-up Southern counterpart after two years and this time where the Americans didn't involved once after the 1975 Spring Offensive commence. And don't tell me that North Vietnam is still Vietnam. Try asking thousands of South Vietnamese who fled in exile.

My dad fought in the Vietnamese war on the behalf of the Vietnamese. I recently visited Vietnam. I'm sad now because we visited Ho Chi Minh City but my parents called it Saigon so I thought that was the name but when the new name appeared on my phone I was kinda confused but it was whatever I'm in Vietnam now it doesn't matter. I'm kind of sad because of that. My dad was taken prisoner in the war and still suffers from it today due to health problems and insomnia.

Where was Prager during the Vietnam War? I'm betting it was half a world away from Vietnam!

@rsanford99

10 жыл бұрын

At the time, Prager was a liberal Democrat. He learned.

@RoseNoho

10 жыл бұрын

Ray Sanford Learned what? That he could avoid the draft by going to college?

@RoseNoho

10 жыл бұрын

***** It's called "Prager University" for a reason.

@rsanford99

10 жыл бұрын

Rose NoHo As a Vietnam vet, all I can say is "good for him" if he stayed in college.

@RoseNoho

10 жыл бұрын

***** It's not a Clinton University video talking about how good and right the Viet Nam war was. The hippies of the world said they thought the war was wrong.

Thank you KZread algorithm for uniting us.

I am a southern born Vietnamese. My late grandpa went to the re-education camp. And my mom automatically fail her high school classes because of that. Honestly wish southern would win. Imagine southern Vietnam would be right now.

@smith2354

3 жыл бұрын

I recommend you watch Luna Oi! on youtube, she has a video titled "Is Vietnam Socialist?" that'll go over everything about the Vietnam War which you weren't taught about. "I wish southern would win" is a statement you don't want to make before learning how many innocents died under the hands of Duong Van Minh's leadership in south Vietnam.

@TranNhatKim

3 жыл бұрын

@@smith2354 both sides have committed similar atrocities, the north vietnamese authority had bloody land reforms, trotskyist purges, capitalist purges, the killing of any suspecting "anti-revolutionary" individual, the south vietnamese authority had tried desperately to get rid of the vietcong guerillas by murdering and displacing hundreds if not thousands of innocent civilians. Neither the North or the South was 100% clean. Things weren't black and white in the Korean war too, the "democratically elected" president of South Korea Syngman Rhee ordered the massacre of thousands of suspecting "communist sympathizers". And i don't think i have to say anything about the North Korean regime. What i want to say is, by nature, wars are messy and questions like "what would happen if this side won instead of that side" are simply cannot be answered. The South vietnamese government wasn't democratic, and so was the south korean government in its early days. Nowadays, vietnam is still "socialist" on paper but in reality, it has long abandoned the system and accepted capitalist principles in order to improve the economy (doi moi). Similar things happened in China ( the socialist economic system just doesn't work). I consider the Chinese and Vietnamese government to be authoritarian capitalist (they still use Marxism-Leninism-Stalinism for propaganda purposes but you get the idea) and South Korea has transformed into a democracy with a thriving economy.

@sonanh594

3 жыл бұрын

T không cùng dân tộc với m

@HelloOnepiece

Жыл бұрын

@@TranNhatKim South Korea is still fighing some os the smyptoms of its darker times, even though on paper its very much democratic, corporations have so much power that I would say its de facto an oligarchy... and im not speaking about the one feared by americans... its way bigger

Dam we could of helped The South Vietnamese if Congress didn't stop the U.S support

Although the peace community lauded King’s willingness to take a public stand against the war in Vietnam, many within the civil rights movement further distanced themselves from his stance. The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, for example, issued a statement against merging the civil rights and peace movements. Undeterred, King, Spock, and Harry Belafonte led 10,000 demonstrators on an anti-war march to the United Nations on 15 April 1967.

They gathered mountains of data claiming they were winning the Vietnam war but none of that data included what the north Vietnamese thought about it.

I will forever celebrate Jan 23rd as VV-Day!

@rustinusti

3 жыл бұрын

Victory for Vietnam Day

@vegitoblue5000

3 жыл бұрын

Then you are in-denial, after 19 years of war the US lost. It was their fault for getting involved in the war they should have never been involved in. Now they have achieved the ultimate humiliation being a super power being defeated by rice farmers with Ak47s.

@darryl23kelly

3 жыл бұрын

*Remembers Siagon*

@pixel6698

3 жыл бұрын

Not much of a victory if you just go back to the status quo😂😂😂 Paris peace accords were pretty much the US saying "F*ck this, F*ck south Vietnam, I'm pulling out"

@alchemist1111

3 жыл бұрын

@@vegitoblue5000 There is so much to this situation, it’s impossible to have a linear conversation about it.

I'm glad to see there are other people who know about Vietnam War. The Us didn't try to invade the North we just tried to stop the South from falling

@cuamanhong2719

4 жыл бұрын

It fell because it was corrupted.

@WillStrong7

4 жыл бұрын

@PTP120122 you literally did not address a single fact about the South Vietnamese puppet regime. The cognitive dissonance is mindblowing

@WillStrong7

4 жыл бұрын

@PTP120122 you responded to a comment mentioning that the US did not create a capitalist democracy. You did not respond to that other than to say communism is bad. Putting that aside, for one thing the US government admitted at the time that if they left it up to a vote they were certain the Communists would win. That's why it was imperative there was never a free election and that all political settlements were blocked. If the US had won, it would have meant they forced capitalism on the country against the will of the people. I despise communism as much as the next person, but the actions of the US government are reprehensible. They killed millions of people for a political ideology, and denied the South Vietnamese the right of self determination. Even if you believe liberal democracy is so inherently correct that it is justified to force it on a population, there is no explanation for why the US government refused (and refuses) go let the victims of their war immigrate to the US, or why they spent years blocking all aid to the country. Vietnam was nothing like Korea

@WM-gf8zm

3 жыл бұрын

@Tumbleweed south korea is shithole tf u on about. Mass suicide rates poverty kpop consumerism & beatings/lockdowns for even slightest progressive economical or social symbol/thought

@KarniToTheKaz

3 жыл бұрын

Tumbleweed If you bring my country into this, you should give the full picture and not just the fact that NV killed the Hmongs in Laos and took control. The people of Laos was allied with NV during a civil war that started because of the US. That was a proxy war lost by the US and even though some Laotian will tell you they don’t like the Vietnamese, they know they would’ve hated an US influenced Laos. We’ve lived under western influence long enough to know better.

Never give a promise you cannot keep. Or maybe reality is USA agreed with USSR that communism would stop there.

@georgeedward602

7 жыл бұрын

You got that right. It is the same today. In the Gulf war we destroyed Iraqi infrastructure to the point that we controlled the country. We simply did not want this , it wasn't our goal. We agreed to leave if our demands were met.

This is such a damned shame! A damned, despicable shame!

@adw6894

3 жыл бұрын

You are talking abt you? yeah right, u r a shame

@DVfromtheeast

3 жыл бұрын

@@adw6894 you are

Vietnam: A dangerous snake bites the hand that feeds it.

@whitedotonablackbackground1026

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly who is the owner of the "hand" that is "feeding" Vietnam?

@GH-xt5df

7 жыл бұрын

PRC

@whitedotonablackbackground1026

7 жыл бұрын

When did China "feed" Vietnam?

@GH-xt5df

7 жыл бұрын

White dot on a black background Google: "First Indochina War", en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War Section: Other countries' involvement: People's Republic of China

@123456788487

7 жыл бұрын

China invaded us, just so you know.