One thing I never see brought up in discussion of the environmental impact of real leather is that the biggest source of leather is from cattle, and while cattle farming causes a lot of pollution, they are primarily raised for their meat, not their leather. Per my understanding, a lot of cattle hides aren't even harvested after slaughter because the demand for leather isn't high enough to justify using all the hides from the meat industry. Because of this imbalance, even if we replaced most of our leather use with mushroom leather, it wouldn't have a huge impact on either sustainability nor ethics so long as beef consumption isn't reduced by a greater amount. (Obviously there are also specialized farming raising various animals primarily for their leather, but this is typically for high-end luxury goods which are a blip on the radar compared to the huge scale of the meat industry from a global warming perspective).

@rqb6731

Жыл бұрын

Idk how he doesn't know this

@nsf_318

Жыл бұрын

this is the biggest reason i got over the use of leather while i wasnt eating meat. once i started researching boots and discovered this, it was a total game changer and allowed me to indulge in beautiful leather goods that are being more resourceful than harmful to the environment.

@estefaniaboujon6830

Жыл бұрын

Taking away the obvious( dont eat animals to begin with) the leather industry is a really polutant one, it takes a lot of chemics and processes to make the skin of make the skin of an animal to look like that

@danielemilazzo432

Жыл бұрын

more shoes make of vegetables mean more farming. more farming means more pollution, more land that will require resources to be farmed. We need to consume less, eat less and buy less.

@danylol772

Жыл бұрын

​@@danielemilazzo432either way, it's not a leather issue is it? It's a issue with the meat industry, and isn't simply solved by "just do less" is it? Otherwise we wouldn't be in this situation in the beginning

I'm curious to see the thousands of varieties of mushrooms and their new uses instead of conventional materials. There are some great videos online about replacing different types of plastics with them.

@bridget0222

2 жыл бұрын

Came to say the same thing!

@good-tn9sr

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately they’re not selling well for both Nike and Adidas.

@professored7169

Жыл бұрын

There using cubenses mushrooms

I have decided that the most sustainable alternative for me is secondhand leather. I own some super high quality leather items that I bought secondhand and I know will last. I also have some Pontos shoes. Would love to hear your thoughts on those as they are a super small business and I appreciate what they are doing

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Secondhand is definitely the best way to go. It'll last forever! 👏

@SUB0SCORION

2 жыл бұрын

Also if you got tired of it don't throw it out. Sell it or give it to someone, so they won't need to get a new one!

I welcome all options that are improving sustainability in our lives. But when it comes to footwear especially, I think real leather and craftsmanship can still be one of the best options to reduce the amounts we consume. I have a couple of leather shoes, normal shoes and boots that are handmade from quality materials with a goodyear welt to make them long lasting and repairable. When I had walked in these shoes for around 5 years I could just take them to the cobbler who changed out the outsoles for me. Now I have basically a new and comfortable shoe that lasts for another 5 years, with a fraction of the cost to me and the environment in comparison with creating and buying a completely new shoe. I think this applies to other things too, repairability is one of the best ways to reduce overconsuming, but I hardly think that's going to happen as it would affect the bottom line of companies to make products that are better in quality and don't push you to buy new ones.

@AkhierDragonheart

2 жыл бұрын

The other thing is it isn't like we are farming animals for their leather. It is literally a bi-product of our insatiable desire for meat. Maybe if we can get that under control we will need to find an alternate source.

i wonder if the plastic they blend with the mycelium is recycled plastic. its also worth mentioning that vegetable tanned leathers don’t pollute the environment but they are more expensive.

@Becausing

2 жыл бұрын

While vegetable tanning is better for the environment, it's not non-pollluting and can drive deforestation.

@germsage6726

2 жыл бұрын

@@Becausing How?

I really hope Mylo is at least comparable to real leather in terms of wear and tear and longevity because adidas has been using "vegan leather" for almost all of its "orginal" shoes for sometime now but they are charging the same price as real leather shoes for the fake leather shoes. And those things don't last at all. It's all marketting bullshit as of now.

I have some parley ultra boosts and they are great - although it can be frustrating that adidas isn't going full-bore into sustainability, the efforts they are making as a huge company is making a big impact on giving consumers choice and impacting the future markets to be greener

This was great to see a little investigation into, nice one Levi! I'd suggest a video perhaps exploring high-end footwear too? Not in the luxury brands, but in true, made to last footwear from brands such as Nick's Handmade Boots. I'd be interested to see your views on fully rebuildable, resolable boots from a real leatherworking company.

Please do more videos about mycelium leather! I would also like to inject some nuance about leather. First, it should be noted that leather is typically made from the hides of animals that were going to be killed for their meat. The major exception to this is leather made from young animals like calfskin or lambskin (though, morbidly, those leathers do end up being much less resource-intensive to produce since the animals aren’t consuming very many resources). Lambskin is most often used in gloves, and calfskin most often in footwear Second, it is important to note that there are different ways to tan leather. The “natural” way is vegetable tanning, which uses tannins from plant materials like bark and is non-toxic. 90% of leather, though, is chrome-tanned, which is not only toxic, but also removes the biodegradability of the leather. Such leather can still be less environmentally damaging than plastic, if it is high-quality enough to increase the lifespan of the product in proportion to the increased resource intensity involved in its creation The best way to consume leather is to buy vegetable-tanned leather products made from hides of animals that were not killed for their skin, produced in countries/companies with good layout conditions, and which involve minimal shipping in the production process. For footwear, the best option in the US is Horween’s Dublin leather and shell cordovan. Horween also makes Chromexel leather which uses a combination of chrome tanning and vegetable tanning, which is high-quality and one-lasting buy not necessarily sustainable. It is all tanned in Chicago, though, and the chemical runoff is respsonsibly managed Of course, the real best option is secondhand. My favorite shoes are a pair of 90s Allen Edmonds I bought for $8, and painstakingly revived to stellar condition. Hopefully mycelium leather will advance to become an ideal leather alternative

Ohhh boy those are some shitake puns 🤣🍄

I love these videos you guys are creating. Keep em coming!

This was really interesting! Will you be exploring more leather alternatives? I've been eyeing some cactus leather products (from Clae, but I think Fossil has some handbags made from it too) and I'd love to hear more about various other leather alternatives.

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

We love this suggestion, we'll add it to the list 👍🏻

Now if they just manage to make a pair of shoes that can be repaired rather than, say, thrown away at the end of their life, I'd be absolutely thrilled to buy a pair. Until then, this still feels just feels like greenwashing. Regardless, this was an excellent video. Thank you for making it.

@Mikael-jt1hk

10 ай бұрын

What a weird worldview to have in 2023. Shoes are replaceable now. Like socks and tshirts. its not the year 1486..

Yes, please! I'd like to know more about mushrooms in sustainability!

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome 💪🍄💪

I would love to know more about mushrooms and how they are being used as a sustainable material!

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know !! 💪🔥

@TheFamousMockingbird

Жыл бұрын

Man they can be used for so much stuff. Insulation is a big area it’s making leaps in. 95% greenhouse gas reduction, better insulation, also improves air quality. You can already thank it for so many medicines from penicillin, to cholesterol meds, and the prettty much exclusive single drug that allows for organ transplants to be conducted safely are all from mushroom. They have also recently isolated a compound in a mushroom called lions mane has been proven to grow new brain cells and neurons in rats so it’s being studied as an Alzheimer’s treatment, they also filter shit like mad, they can absorb heavy metals from environments and also Petroleum spills, you can put a certain mushroom strategically near a water source that has ecoli and it treats the water and decontaminates it. I could go on, I mean NASA are planning on using mushroom houses to start the first stations on Mars Bec all it needs is some of the ice on mars. Fungi are responsible for every piece of life being able to live on lane, they predate plants and animals, people slept on them too long

The thing with the ocean plastic from Adidas is: It is not even 1% out of plastic from the ocean (it can’t be, because it is not possible to make a stable fabric out more than that)

These are plastic shoes made from garbage and now it's getting really hard to find the real leather Stan's.😥 R.I.P. Stan Smith (the shoe and the tennis player)

Your videos are informative and entertaining! Keep doing what you’re doing!

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Sandi!

Been wearing Stan smiths for years now and today I decided to replace my pair and found out about this new version… I literally thought it was fake

I'm really interested in "green burial". A Dutch company called Loop Bio Tech are producing a mycelium casket for burial. I LOVE that idea! Fungi are truly amazing!

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

WOAH that's such a cool idea, we're definitely looking into it! Thanks for sharing, Bec

@annapatison

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Maybe you could look at other green death care options like Alkaline hydrolysis and natural organic reduction. Ask A Mortician has done some videos on these topics and I would like to learn more about the sustainability pros and cons

@WouldntULikeToKnow.

2 жыл бұрын

@@annapatison I second checking out the Ask A Mortician channel. She's awesome and just did a video about compost burials that won me over.

I wouldn’t even mind this if it was a separate, cheaper option since the durability won’t be the same as leather by a good margin but to just get rid of the leather one entirely and then charge the same price for a lesser quality product is just mind blowing.

Such an underrated channel, I’m thankful KZread recommendations is pushing your channel to a broader audience! I’ve become more educated in friendly consumer practices and aware of bad company practices, through your videos. 😊

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for being here Joshua! If you wanna support the channel you can always share these videos with your friends!

Yes please do the follow up video on the report sounds very interesting and I cant wait to see if its actually going to be useful with a numbers breakdown from you guys :)

Awesome video! I was surprised not to see at least hundreds of thousands of subs when I scrolled down to subscribe myself! I hope you guys make more videos on mushrooms :D

Blame our consumer society for wanting the latest and greatest kicks. I understand the need to buy new athletic shoes for performance specific sports but not for the casual shoe market. Personally if the shoes I own aren’t broken or gross, I really try to wear them as long as I can.

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

That's how it should be done! Thanks for joining us here 💪

Two criticisms: 1. As others have said, surely the real concern with leather is not that you have to raise cattle, as they are being raised as a food source anyway, but the processing of hides. Which is of course still a problem, but I feel cattle is a buzzword people like to use too much. 2. Most sportswear adidas makes these days has either Primegreen (just generic recycled plastic) or Primeblue (ocean bound recycled plastic in collaboration with Parley). There are of course still shoes and clothes made specifically as collaborations with Parley, but I think it's fair to say that adidas has been incorporating recycled plastic in a large portion of their day to day products, not just in the collaborations that get hyped up for marketing. But as you said, how much recycled plastic is actually used in these products is a different question.

@alexbv475

2 жыл бұрын

Cattle farming is highly criticized from angles, it's considered to be the worst type of meat by far from both and health and environmental perspective. Add to that that the meat industry in general is controversial because of animal welfare, and a lot of people would prefer humanity to be less reliant on the cattle farming industry.

I went diwn a rabbit hole into uber eco sustainability youtubers, and there is a women named Shelby. I do not subscribe to some of her tips and advice, but she and many other peoples’ hearts are in the right place. One of her videos she did talk about mushroom leather womens heel shoes, and they were hundreds of dollars! She said the truth by saying that the price tag is too high for the average person to make the switch, which is a really good point. I would be interested to know if these Adidas shoes will have a drastically different price point to its traditional counterparts.

I mean, I’d rather wear real leather…I eat the beef, I wear the leather…sounds good to me! Isn’t veg tan better than conventional tanning? Leather lasts much longer - my (mom’s) leather jacket from HS is still ok, if a bit thin in places. I’ve gone through more than one pleather jacket in the same time, on rub points the plastic cracks and peels off.

Awesome video! I would love to see the follow up video to this!

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Sami! We'll keep it in mind 🔥🍄

I love the puns 🤣 Personally I prefer a delivery of the jokes the way "Undecided with Matt Farrell" does it. His videos are filled with puns and bad jokes, but if you don't pay attention to it you may not even notice them and it's just a very well made informative video. I love puns regardless though, so you do you 😊

Informative video & I loved your humour - very clever!

Yes!, please do a video talking about mushrooms as a material thxs

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know there's so much interest, we're definitely considering it!!

I'd love to see another video about emerging innovative fungal materials in other industries.

This is super interesting, I've heard of this before but perhaps it can actually be used now instead of just being a cool idea on the fringes of product design. Overall I think new materials are very intriguing and I like your hemp video, you could do a whole series; pineapple leather, biodegradable plastic flower pots (there's a huge waste of flowers pots in the horticultural industry and most of ut isn't even recycled because black plastic isn't registered by the cameras in sorting facilities) and banan fiber for textiles.

the value of leather products lies in their longevity, given that you maintain them. Only time will tell if mushroom leather will hold up to the real deal.

That's innovative and I guess 15-50% plastic is better than 100% plastic, though focusing the solution in the production level only and not at a consumption level sounds naïve at best and malignant at worst -literally: if you don't buy excess things, you don't generate excess waste. Which is why I'm always a bit skeptical of big companies pushing forward things like this, so thanks for stating the bias as well as the good side of this news!

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

That's what we're here for, glad to know you're enjoying the content!! 🔥💪

I didn't know that this is your channel, Levi. Good surprise to hear your voice here and auto-subscribe for me!

Yes, we wanna hear about mushroom concrete!!!!

Man I really wanted a pair of those Adidas shoes and was sad they’re still not on sale.

Yup, kinda hated the new designs and materials of the new Adidas, I just switched to the other line Reebok and oh god those are real fashion sneakers with really good material

As an avid amateur of leather, having both made things from it and assessed its sustainability through academic literature I have to say I agree with you, but not completely. Though most leather is indeed tanned in the way that you've described, there's one other possibility: veg tanned leather. There are hybrid tanned leathers that use both chrome and veg. But pure veg tanned leather from (in my case I always use one tanned in europe to avoid the tanneries from your video) respects both the workers and the environment much more than chrome tanned. The main molecule responsible for this tanning (called tannin) has been used pretty much as long as we've had leather. It's derived solely from plants, often coming from the bark of oak trees, but also being sourced from leaves and other plant parts. In total my conclusion did state that chrome tanned vs plastic leather was very difficult to asses based on available literature without doing some objective tests in a comparative study, but veg tan was still clearly a winner. Other than that though, thank you for all your videos (both on this channel and the previous one), and I hope you do make a follow-up video!

@SpektrikMusic

2 жыл бұрын

Would you consider working with plant based "leather" if a company manage to develop and mass manufacture this type of products?

@joachimvankerrebroeck1770

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpektrikMusic of course! Though I don't think that plant based (or any non animal) leather can ever match the experience of working with the real deal. Most of all I respect the use of plant based alternatives for a more industrial application. But I'd certainly like to try it out.

First thought came to my head: Is it edible?

I only wear Stans. They have been my go-to for a long time. The fact that they are now being overprocessed out of mushrooms is a major turn-off. This planet has adequate supplies of leather because most people still eat beef. The tactic that Adidas is trying to be 'greener' is total BS. I have taken to buying used leather Stans because these mushroom shoes look cheap and from the reviews I have read are squeaky, uncomfortable and don't wear well, Hey Adidas, stop listening to whatever marketing genius you are listening to and give consumers a choice to buy leather. End of rant, thanks for listening and have a nice day.

yess it would be great to hear more on this!

If anyone really wants to learn about leather and shoes, boots and so on I'd really suggest watching the channel called "Rose Anvil" the guy there cuts boots and shoes apart and is a leather smith so he knows a lot about how leather is made for shoes, belts and more. Adidas here is just doing greenwashing to lure in Gen-Z buyers by trying to appeal to their eco-conscious focus, if they truly wanted to reduce their footprint they would just up their quality so it wasn't just cheaply made junk with a logo slapped on.

I came on to KZread just to watch your videos and it was my first recommendation!!!!!

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

🔥👏🔥

I want to learn more about the crazy mushroom tech!

In the Philippines there's a shoe brand that makes shoes out of pineapples.

Definitely interested in knowing more about how mushroom micelium could mimic leather.

Please make a video on the mushroom leather. It would be cool to compare it to things like apple leather and pinatex (pineapple leather). I love that we’re moving away from plastic based vegan leathers are towards more sustainable plant based leathers!

If you treat it right and buy something quality even with all it's downside leather can still be a pretty good material. Especially considering other types of leather like kangaroo, etc... that aren't necessarily as bad for the environment or where the animals aren't treated horribly.

Of course this is pretty creative, but if you really want to be more environmentally conscious, stop following every trend and buying low quality shoes that often. A goodyear welted shoe made from veg tan leather can be resoled and easily lasts years or even decades with just a little bit of care. The real problem is neither leather nor plastic, it is our society and fast fashion.

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

So true, it goes deeper than the materials being used and we really need to focus on consumerism as a society as well. Thanks for taking the time to comment + join us here!!

I'll believe it when I see it ! Please hit them up for some product samples so that we won't have to look like fools buying before we know how mushroom shoes could possibly work.

Some plastics are biodegradable/compostable, so they're not necessarily bad, but only fine if they're also produced sustainably. If you want a reasonably leathery product without plastics, there are a few alternatives: - Waxed canvas (needs maintenance, not very breathable). - Mirum material (made with natural rubber instead of plastics). - Lino leather (not a lot of fashion items made with this yet AFAIK, but sounds promising). - Thin cork (not as durable as genuine leather). There's other stuff like kombucha leather, but it's not even water-resistant to begin with. It requires treatment with linseed oil to be made water-resistant, and maybe wax for waterproofness. Thing is, if they all turn out to be nowhere near as durable as genuine leather, they'll have to be bought multiple times, even undermining their sustainability.

A little bit of constructive critism. I highly suggest that you keep the "please subscribe" pleads to a single one. Any more than that gets really annoying and comes across as needy and annoying and it may actually push people to actually do the opposite and NOT subscribe. Your videos are of excellent quality and speak for themselves and as such, people will subscribe because of it.

They already make a shoe without glue. The Adidas Yezzy Foam Runner. One piece of foam. I could be wrong....

I definitely want to know more about the new way of using mushrooms, please do a video on it.

the channel "Undecided with Matt Ferrell" does a good overview of mycelium's uses in consumer and industrial material goods

pleeeaaase do a follow up video on this mushroom leather, I'd love to hear more about it

very interesting. thanks

so it's basically the same as cactus, apple, mango leather ect. It's never strong enough on it's own so a plastic binder is used. I'm not sure if these are real solutions. I would support tanneries being more responsible and environmentally friendly. On top of that cow leather is a byproduct of the meat industry and would just go to a landfill if not used so I'm ok with buying leather products.

Would love to see a video about Doc Martens and alternatives for people who need to replace old worn out boots with higher-quality versions

I went looking for information regarding the Stan Smith model and was surprised to not find any current information, considering they were set for release by end of 2021. Anyone know more?

Could you do a video about Bamboo plastic? I've been curious if that's better for the planet, and it's pretty cool, and pretty plastic similar. I'd love to learn more and if it's a good product get it more well known.

When I lived in California I remember a little excitement years ago around faux leather being made from grape skins, as a by-product from making wine. Anyone heard about that?

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Grape skins huh?? We'll definitely make sure to look into it and hey, maybe it'll be featured in a video in the future. Thanks for bringing that to our attention!!

Don't mind me just intracting for the algorithm

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Sarah!

I brew kombucha and everytime I set a new brewing and try to figure out what to do with the old scoobys I get tempted to create scoby-leather xD one day I might have scobyshoes!

I don't really wear casual leather shoes, but I have difficulty imagining myself getting bespoke mushroom cap-toe oxfords made. lol

Without glue? Well there are certain materials that can be fused using “sonic welding”, or they will just stitch everything together and hope it holds up over time. 🤷‍♂️

I would love to know more about mushroom products, along with more mushroom puns

A little late to the party but would love to learn more about mycelium products

Adidas is doing this... in order to ignore hemp for even longer.

My husband has a vegtan leather belt that is 30+ years old that he wears 5 days out of the week. No PU leather or mushroom leather is ever going to last that long.

Seems better than eating them. Interesting concept for sure and so cool that it can be grown in shapes.

Banger vid boss

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, dude!

I absolutely want to see a video about mushroom products !!!!! make it please !

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

We just might, thanks for letting us know!! 👍

Please talk about Cactus/Nopal leather 🌵 I love shoes but sometimes I just wish everyone goes barefoot

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Cactus is definitely on our list for materials we want to talk about in the future, thanks for the suggestion, Diana!

I have a question regarding regular leather. We already farm cattle because we eat them or the milk they produce. So it seems to me that the ressource will be there wether we use it or not. Is the tanning process polluting enough so that the other leather are better?

some people are also trying to make bricks with mushrooms

Good video btw

4:34 Im glad he cares about the cows and the people

Is veal really worse than fish when we consider all those plastic nets that land on bottom of the sea, catch fish and starve fish with its microplastics? I would like to know who makes those calculations and if they are not influenced by petroleum companies

If it wasn’t for the look, I won’t even buy it. But they look great and very comfortable. Gonna get another pair, the Lux one this time, they are really comfortable !

I'm still hopeful one day we may have plastic-eating mushrooms (we have radioactivity-eating mushrooms and plastic-eating bacteria so I don't see why not) and be able to do products with their mycelium. A girl can dream.

Bro said leather is bad because we should get rid of all the cows instead

Dude, I want Heely's to come back too! XD

Hi, thanks for this video, I would like a video about mushrooms posible uses, please

How about using post consumer materials?

Would love to see actual sustainable leather instead of plastic infused mushrooms. :) Cool concept though.

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

That is SO cool, we'll look more into that. Thanks!!

great vid

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! 👏

I love how companies are going the sustainable route... but... I'm scared that mushrooms would get more expensive for eating, just so leather can be produced.

Please make another video on making things out of mushrooms!

come on man you missed out on spoil-spore...... also would love more videos on the various moves forward with fungi - not only mycelium leathers, but also bioremediation & mushrooms that can break down plastics/absorb heavy metals from soil. there are also people working on things like bio-pesticides that would utilize entomopathogenic fungi, which colonize & eventually kill insects and generally specialize in one insect or type of insect. (thus removing more chemicals from farming, plus avoiding killing beneficial bugs & pollinators.)

2:13 ahah loved it

loved the mushroom jokes

@FutureProofTV

2 жыл бұрын

You know Levi, he's a fungi 😂

Now athlete's foot becomes a whole new meaning.

Yes to going down all the mushroom rabbit holes

I skipped church and went to the shoe shop to save my sole

someone knows when will be the release?

What are your thoughts on the invention of cactus leather, made in Mexico by a couple of farmers?