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Biggest complaint about GW paints = the pots. GWs solution = more paints of lower volume!

@hughwoodford

2 жыл бұрын

if you spill them you probably lose less £££ in paint, 5head

@Phoenixillusion18

2 жыл бұрын

I mean it would be a mess to make the transition to bottles at this point. First they would have to stop paint production for a year or maybe more, reason being they must sell the bottles that where already made. Because if they would release bottles today everyone would start buying only those making the pots worthless. And in that scenario imagine owning a store and having a stock a 1k dollars or more of these pots in store that just became worthless over night.

@Acorbet86

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phoenixillusion18 erm...you do know they've changed pot types multiple times over the years?

@hughwoodford

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phoenixillusion18 Isn't GWs stocking notoriously low? This is why practically every online store has only like 3 of each paint. Secondly you could make this exact argument you are making about pot shape as you can about the new shades. If the new ones are better, why would anyone buy the old ones and how come GW aren't stuck with 1k dollars or more of these old shades?

@peterpan4038

2 жыл бұрын

@@Acorbet86 Yes, but the old ones always took a while to phase out. And they usually stick to very similiar form factors.

Hey dude, you listed some of your go-to paints for some colors. Could you make a video listing what your favourite paints are for each colour? Like if you're painting orange what are your favourite paints for an orange base, highlight options, etc?

🖌 If you want to try out the Squidmar Brushes go here: www.squidmar.com/latepledge

@CalAndAly

2 жыл бұрын

Whoa these tshirts are fucking sicc. I was noticing different shirts throughout the vid, prob the best way I’ve seen an ad done on youtube in a min. Gotta full cart already with your discount

The one thing i've found since they released the contrasts is that the really thin almost shade quality paints, are really good for going over metallic base coats. Adds some really nice combination options

Pylar Glacier low coverage is kind of intended surely, it's meant for painting snowy/icey miniatures? Or thin it even more for blue'ish cold whites. I love it personally! Perfect for things like Beastclaw Raiders :D

@Codes911

2 жыл бұрын

I've noticed multiple other painters complain about it but all the work i've seen done with it look perfect for the intended purpose. It's like they forgot the "glacier" part of the name and are just directly comparing it to the other contrasts. Maybe it'd be reviewed a tad better if it were released as part of the technical line.

@johnimal1

2 жыл бұрын

It's the one I'm most interested in. Have alot of icy themes to paint soon, with "white" ice dragon, frosthaven minis, wings of angels... Who knows what else

@michaelstefanou7744

2 жыл бұрын

So true. The spider squidmar shows literally looks like it's been hit with an ice spell in a D & D / Gloomhaven / Descent game. Great finish.

@Ulfhrim

2 жыл бұрын

Yea 100% it snd Frostheart are what I'm most excited for.

@trevorwall87

2 жыл бұрын

Temheres international variable opacity across the range

The reason pylad glacier is so translucent is because it is meant to be used to make really good ice detail.

@Jathom

2 жыл бұрын

This is cool and all but seems like it should be a technical paint rather than a Contrast paint.

@markhanson9508

2 жыл бұрын

So like really limited in its application.

@TenshiProductionz

2 жыл бұрын

Problem is, it does not look like ice at all nor does it’s looks icy. It just looks… ghostly you will ended up needing to touch up lots of stuff and repaint parts because it’s to thin, makes this useless.

@timreeves

2 жыл бұрын

I think both the pale aqua shades that squidmar dismissed are fantastic for icy stuff, and even if there's not many citadel minis that have an ice theme, there's terrain and DnD minis that definitely do dig deep into ice.

@MarioMario-uy2my

2 жыл бұрын

Also ots good for making plasma effects

Emil! Best video I’ve seen on these thus far. I completely agree when it comes to giving the customer more info. Like, take Pylar Glacier- I’ve heard people say it’s more accurately a Technical paint, as it should only be used on white to achieve an “ice” effect. But, seeing as that’s not said anywhere, people just have to guess through trial and error. It’s especially ridiculous when you consider that, like you said in the beginning, these are usually marketed as newbie-friendly ways to get a lot of work done fast…

@mkaali

2 жыл бұрын

I don't agree at all. Beginners don't guess through trial and error until they find what they like. That's what pros do, they try dozens of different paints until they find what they like. Beginners just look at a guide or the back of the box to see what paints they are using and just buys them. If it says Pylar Glacier, they'll buy it and if it doesn't they don't. So if a pro picks Pylar Glacier and find it bad for their use, that's what they'll do. Tagging them surely could help, but not the beginners, they don't even know or care what matte, single pigment or even coverage mean.

@JimmothyGibbons

2 жыл бұрын

@@mkaali I'd even go so far to say. To me, phylar is obviously an extremely weak colour. Has anyone tried it over a dark colour to see if it does the opposite; brighter recesses?

@Pandapeep

2 жыл бұрын

It is called 'glacier,' and every picture communicates that it is an ice paint.

@OldManRogers

2 жыл бұрын

I hate how GW have changed paints about 4 or 5 times and not always for the better. Contrast is expensive, each colour has different properties so unless you research or experiment with that colour it's difficult to know how it will react

@High_Lord_Of_Terra

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure it's gws job to hold your hand while you paint.

Great point on tagging them. Opacity, finish, matte/satin/gloss ... would definitely help!

@Defeshh

2 жыл бұрын

The funny thing is that normal artist paints have been giving that information for generations, including information of the pigments

This was such a well-presented and useful video! Thanks for your candid and unequivocal review of these new paints.

I think when contrasts came out they were shown very incorrectly. I could paint a table ready army in half the time with contrasts than I could with normal paints and it will look just as good. Most people try using them as a thick wash all over the model which is just silly. You don't want to glob it on like so many channels showed. Doing slow, even coats of contrast over armor basically finishes it to a table standard in a single coat. Same goes for leather, skin, etc. The only thing contrast truly fails at is tiny details because it's hard to control. But for base coating I find it faster than even airbrush so I hardly use my airbrush anymore. I can base coat a marine the same way in half the time. Which saves a ton when you're painting 30 troops at a time.

@bluedotdinosaur

2 жыл бұрын

Funny thing - after Duncan left GW and started his own channel, he immediately began using Contrast paint in exactly the way you describe with the same results. Clearly, as an experienced painter, he had quickly figured out how the paint was intended to be used. But while at GW he was probably gagged by their marketing team and couldn't make a video demonstrating the correct technique. One of the key videos he made that shows how powerful contrast is when used correctly was simply painting an Imperial Fist. Step 1: yellow contrast. Step 2: a super easy to do, quick glaze of thinned down yellow paint over the flat areas to make the yellow even purer and remove absolutely any remaining stains from the contrast. The result was something that looked like a flawless, painstaking yellow base but in very little time.

@DCAMM720

2 жыл бұрын

@@bluedotdinosaur I'll have to check it out, haven't seen much of Duncan stuff for a long time but I know he has his own channel now. Maybe the guy I heard it from heard it from Duncan lol. Sounds like a similar process to what I did with some Black Templars. You can do the contrast paint or even two coats and it'll look alright but if you want a really deep black you can do a coat of Shyish Purple(I think is the name) and then Black Templar contrast over it and it makes the armor look great. In batch painting I found it quicker than doing something like two coats of Abaddon Black or something.

@GloriousGrunt

2 жыл бұрын

it also fails if you acidently get a darker paint on the contrast, you have to go back to white and re-contrast to fix it, especially lighter colors like -

@zandosdwarf-king

2 жыл бұрын

I love contrasts, but after all those years, my favourite use is still easy metal of any color

@Anjohl

Жыл бұрын

the nicest thing about Contrast is that it works really well as a combo of a base and wash that you can paint over. Also, you can move the pigment around while it's wet, which gives you a superb amount of control over it, once you get used to using the given paint.

7:24 The clues in the name, you use it over white to create ice effects 😉

THANK YOU for stating the labels they should put on the bottles. I will be buying these paints selectively and the information you shared will help me choosing which ones to get.

FREAKING THANK YOU for being the only person so far to try these new contrast paints with black+white zenithal. Everyone else is showcasing them with the new white primer, which I'm not going to get, so this was super useful!!

Appericate your insights and testing. There is a few i want to grab and you’ve confirmed which ones i’ll start with

Thanks for giving me your take on putting these new ones through the air brush. I was a hater until I saw you use them in an airbrush and now Swear by it.🤘

Great video and I’m really glad to have heard your review on them all. Might go grab a few of these but I agree with you, there are a few that I won’t have a use for. Thanks for the video though! 👏

Thanks for the video and running these through the airbrush as well as a paintbrush. I was really curious to see how they did on both.

I feel that they work more as single coat layer paints. The ammount of shading and highlighting they give when compared to the first line is minimal.

Always good to run through a new paint line!

Ended up ordering 13 of the new paints this morning before the video and my choices largely aligned with Squidmar's, albeit I took a chance on Pylar Glacier as I think it could come in handy doing ice effect weapons or armour. Most looking forward to being able to put down a single layer of IF yellow without the need of an airbrush or multiple thinned acrylic coats. Could make black and yellow hazard stripes easier too.

Super helpful! I was wondering about the quality of these new paints--now I know!

Finally a nice orange... I can't wait to buy.. thanks for this and all your videos

Thank you! That was an excellent review! Cheers 🍻

What I got from this is there is finally a bright yellow paint that covers well

@SquidmarMiniatures

2 жыл бұрын

With a white undercoat

Imperial Fist seems to be universally loved - I'm looking forward to trying it!

@richardbradley2335

2 жыл бұрын

So are Ultramarines !

@azrielslytherin2604

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardbradley2335 they were talking about the color.

@richardbradley2335

2 жыл бұрын

@@azrielslytherin2604 meh...i stand by what i said ''Go Ultramarines''....

@NuclearFridge1

2 жыл бұрын

Yellow has always been my "don't go there" colour. So maybe... Just maybe... Imperial Fist can fix this issue for me.

@richardbradley2335

2 жыл бұрын

@@NuclearFridge1 That's why ive used emulsion on my figs.

The variety of colors is one of the strongest attributes citadel has going for them, and some of the ones that don't seem exiting or useful to one painter are a godsend for another, like that glacier one for someone who's painting an army with frost weapons. But i wholeheartedly agree that they need to be less obtuse about what certain specialty paints might be useful for, they are notoriously bad at covering that aspect in their own video material (i suspect their print media might be more helpful, but i don't peruse those) and people usually have to rely on outside sources like hobbyists on YT to figure them out...

And this is why you werent invited to the GW weekend party. Nice honest review mate ♡

I need a Squidmar class. I don't know in what form, but I want to learn to paint more quickly and still, a vibrant as the both of you 😍

Oh yes!! Info on the pot would be amazing!! One reason I’ve never gone with these is I have no idea what I’m getting. With a base paint I know I’m getting a paint that will cover. When I get a wash I know it’s an ink but the contrast paints 🤷‍♂️.

Thanks very much for the roundup! I’ve been looking to pick up a few of these, and I’m glad to hear that they get your thumbs up! Now… about those ‘non-pooling’ shade paints? ;)

Pylar glacier is made for ice effects and it's perfect for that use

I saw the clickbait thumbnail and ignored this video for a while and just now watched it. Its actually a great video and very helpful, I just would not have known based off thumbnail

This is the best review I've seen of the new Contrast paints. I think that's because we get to see it over a zenithal, where everyone else has been showing it over solid white primer, which makes a lot of them just look like a layer of paint. Thank you!

@seanfinley2069

2 жыл бұрын

I think that's a flaw with the contrast paints. The entire premise of "contrast" is that they're supposed to give you recess shading, midtone, and highlight in one go. A lot of thee don't.

Awesome video. Very helpful. Keep up the good work.

GW needs to ditch the pots, stop decreasing the volume, and drop the price. Especially when speed paints by AP do the same thing, maybe even better, and they cost $80 for the mega set.

@someblacktemplar

Жыл бұрын

Games workshop: eh I don’t really care😒

@tylerward4386

Жыл бұрын

The pots probably aren't going away quickly. That takes an manufacturing redesign and that's very expensive. If they are indeed being out competed in the paints then it's probably not worth the effort

@Thornspyre81

5 ай бұрын

Honestly, they sell so well why would they. You know?

Nice vid and review Squidmar! Could you please post a pdf or pic of all the colored spiders with the colors labeled please? That would be so helpful to see the colors.

Interesting seeing different reviewers' takes on which ones are useful and why.

That was a very useful review. Thank you, sir!

Thank your for your input Emil!

Garaghak's sewer can also be used as a muck wash, kinda like how we use oil washes. All you gotta do is reduce it in a roughly 1:3 with something like AP speedpaint medium and it becomes a bit more "smearable" and wet looking, so it can leave streaks and splotches for grime.

Pylar glaciar looked great tbh I don't care that it doesn't have a ridiculous high pigmentation it's going to make for really nice ice effects.

@sorcam

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe also as like an energy effect on power swords and lightning claws.

Thanks, I am glad that I can use IF yellow both in airbrush and brush

Smashing video dude keep the videos up

Awesome video mate!!! Thanks!!!

I have several frost giants I need to paint, and I could see Plyar Glacier and Briar Queen Chill being very helpful in that. If you won't use them, you could always send them my way! 😉

Your best video ive seen so far!

Yoooo been waiting for this

Hey Squidmar id love it if you had an updated video on how to start out with warhammer minis, like all the basics knives/paints/brushes/cheap minis to practice on ect. as someone who wants to eventually have a full kreig army (i know they cost ALOT) my main problem is having no idea where to start and what i need. if you ever see this know i ADORE this channel

@SquidmarMiniatures

2 жыл бұрын

Hey there's 3-4 videos like that both for basing and painting and hobbying. Maybe i should lake a playlist :)

@ShupMup

2 жыл бұрын

@@SquidmarMiniatures that would be great

@MrFive2FiveVods

2 жыл бұрын

@@SquidmarMiniatures oh a playlist would be amazing id love that :D

Thank for the great review. I was looking forward to your opinion on these paints. 🔥🎸🔥

That striking scorpion screen is likely going to look very well on Necrons. Looking forward to it.

I would love to hear your contrast paints that you use for each color! Possible video?

One of these days I hope you do a give away or a contest for one of those big spider bois cause man! I love the colors you use for them.

Im going to be picking up Pylar Glacier for frost weapons for my space wolves for sure

Gonna hop in with team Pylar Glacier; I think it'll be really nice for getting bright electric powerswords. (Possibly w Proacryl Turquoise)

Hey I appreciate the video and tips!

I found the doomfire magenta to be very bright and pigmented, **IF** you shake the pot a ton before applying. If you don't shake, it comes out darker and more red.

Fantastic video. I really love how you keep a bias toward objectivity (haha) and always harken back to price/usability rather than simply stating how good the paint looks on a model and leaving it there. Keep up the good work!

I have to say - I find pylar Glacier one of the most exciting. E.g. for Gray Knights. The opacity is very low but it brings out that nice blue that I would like on some minis to indicate magic/psyker or something else.

@sorcam

2 жыл бұрын

could be cool for power swords too

Hey Emil, thanks alot for the great breakdown and review of the new paint range. Do you think that the new 'Kroxigor Scales' is better suited over a coat of 'Stormhost Silver' to paint Alpha Legion instead of the old 'Akhelian Green' or do you think both are equally good? Thanks in advance! Also, keep up the great work!

I was going to buy kroxigor scales just for the name...so it's good to hear its a good paint!

I feel the slightly more love already!

@SquidmarMiniatures

2 жыл бұрын

🥰🥰🥰

The phlar glacier might be ok on terrain if you're doing ice and snow

to be fair to me it seems pylar glacier could be great for getting quick ice effect for weapons etc

The glacier paint I can see using on any future frost wolf weapons I paint when I can't be bothered mixing my own glaze.

I've been trying your technique of using the airbrush with Contrast paints on a white/zenithal primer. I think there are some subtle tips and hints about how you apply the airbrushed base coat and how you apply the contrast paints that you didn't really touch on in your contrast paints video about this technique. It would be great to see a full tutorial on a miniature aobut how/why you apply the paints. (directions, intensity, shadow, etc.)

@Omega_MCX

2 жыл бұрын

Seconded for this, I'm curious about the best way to use contrast in an airbrush, does he thin them down? What airbrush settings does he use? Getting the answers to those sort of questions would be amazing. :)

@kukenstar6684

2 жыл бұрын

I agree!

@strov3

2 жыл бұрын

I concur! When using the airbrush, it seemed to spill over other zones that would receive other contrast paint down the line, and we know contrast doesn't play well above one another. So is there a ton of detail work done with acrylic afterwards? If yes, kind of defeat the beginner purpose as I don't want to buy contrast and acrylic for all my colors.

That glacier paint looks like it could be used for ice or even ice like skin

I would love to know what colors were used for the skin and wings of those units at 11:45. The coloring of the wings is so eye catching and the blue skin tone too

Congratulations! 🎊 You're the only youtuber that pronounce correctly Vallejo

Pylar glacier looks like it would be a perfect glaze for power swords.. 🤔

@squidmar at 7:26 That glacier colour - Seems to be good for Mammoth fur after primer then highlight on top to give it a frosty blue under side? Im thinking the Thundertusks or even frost sabres as a starting point :)

Hey Emil. I had an idea for a video. I'm a new painter who doesn't have access to high quality miniatures yet, but I'm thinking about getting more paints and brushes. I think it would be cool to make a video about painting lower quality minis with high skill level and high quality materials.

2:58 if your painting a slanesh army that color is a must

I get why you wouldn't see any real use for pylar glacier, but it is absolutely perfect for my Night Lords on glacier bases, its really really low coverage is a huge boon for me. It mixed with gloss varnish over the top is going to look real good

This is the kind of video we need when there are new paint product releases. Thanks Emil for the deep dive into reviewing each new color.

I would lean more towards Bad Moon Yellow over Imperial Fist. I can make a cool tone warmer fairly easily whereas, I would have a harder time making a warmer tone cooler

i agree, aethermatic blue has pretty limited use. I usually just use it for parts that are made of seethrough plastic. For example the wings of the Wasp (Marvel Crisis Protocol). Not the best solution, but at least it makes it not look like a piece of plastic, without lososing the seethroughness.

@SquidmarMiniatures you should try the new Vallejo Xpress line up and see how it compares to these

Thnx for the honest review

Cheers Squid . 🐺

Do you think the glacier one would look good if you were trying to paint frost weapons?

Never heard of the intensity inks from gsw, any other good colors in that lineup?

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

ok so this was informative but are you going to do a video on the new shades as well?

Where did you get the STL for the spiders? Pretty sweet. Thank you

In the meantime, do I have a colour scheme for you! We have a St Andrews cross spider that has fluro yellow, orange, Rhinox Hide brown and deep red, plus some dry brushed colours. The best thing is these creatures are the same size as the plastic models you just painted so there is no scaling of colours.

Pylar Glacier's going to be PERFECT for me. It's exactly what I needed for my Space Marine chapter as they've developed an icy blue skin (They're inspired by frost giants form norse myth)

@ross2283

2 жыл бұрын

That sounds neat.

@lnSorteDiaboli

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a chapter that would not be allowed to exist.

@thelastcrusader7032

2 жыл бұрын

@@lnSorteDiaboli Ehh.. Just like the Sons of the Phoenix.

@lnSorteDiaboli

2 жыл бұрын

@@thelastcrusader7032 Not familiar with them. Are they also rocking icy skin?

@thelastcrusader7032

2 жыл бұрын

@@lnSorteDiaboli Nah. But they're sporting the color scheme of the Emperors Children and look suspiciously like Fulgrim.

You touch on an important point here, "I don't know what I'd use it for". Surely this should've been part of Citadel Colour's development process? Asking themselves "What would a painter use this for & is there already something that fulfills that role (even if it needs a bit of medium)?"

Those army painter contrast paints are really nice for 1/2 the price.

@Anjohl

Жыл бұрын

the re-activation pretty much kills them.

Striking scorpion i feel is goign to be amazong on Necrons. And im really excited for the yellows.

@SquidmarMiniatures

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's gonna slay for you

The airbrush work you've done here is wicked awesome! I'm not impressed enough by the new GW paints to buy them now or maybe even ever, but it's always fun watching you test new stuff and report on it.

Thanks for this honnest revieuw. I do have a question. Did You use thinner for the contrast? (while using Airbrush)

For me black legion is going to be great for just knocking out small details that need to be black that I don't want to put too much effort into, things like boots, belts, gun casing, etc. Whilst a thinned down black could be similar there's a much higher chance that I'd need to do a second coat. In my opinion it's a convenient tool for speed painting, especially in highly textured areas, not having the contrast finish helps as it doesn't matter what colour you're using it over, it's definitely something designed for speed painters.

@Navtyr

2 жыл бұрын

Vallejo black + thinner = same coverage, same density for a fraction of the cost. I doubt you would lose that much time adding some thinner that it would be worth crowning this "speed painter" tool for premium price. I honestly wouldn't even be surprised if that's exactly what's in the GW bottle.

@captainweekend5276

2 жыл бұрын

@@Navtyr I've used vallejo black and I can tell you the coverage is definitely not the same. At the end of the day it's paying for convenience which I'm happy to do, I rarely use pure blacks brush painting since I'll usually start from a black primer, airbrush the black, or use shades. I've watched and read a fair few reviews of the new contrast line and it seems Squidmar is really underselling black legion, either because of personal bias or to say something negative to appease the GW haters.

Contrast line seems to have so many differing properties now that it’s no longer useful description for what you can expect out of the pot. They’re offering many different tools it seems but not making it clear what they each are when you’re standing in front of the rack of their product.

They just need to market Imperial Fist yellow and the like as "I Can't Believe It's Not Ink"

I guess it's time to go buy some more paints 👀

Honestly, Army Painter's Fire Giant Orange speedpaint is one of the nicest oranges I've seen.

I take your point about limited application, but as a Nighthaunt collector, Briar Queen Chill is like a gift from Nagash himself…

Where can I get one of those cool brass lamps you have in the background?

1:39 this is a grimdark universe, but i could do a worn yellow saftey lines on a manufactorum