Loved this video! Who ever said motorcycles were cheap to operate?? I'm glad you got all of the drama worked out, and now you can go back to loving that Indian ride and power! When I was a younger man, I souped up my motorcycles. Now I'm old and my mantra is, Stock is Good! I just hope that somebody else considering the same path in performance, will watch this video and learn what works and what doesn't. Ride and stay safe down there in FL. land!

Ahh that's a tough battle. Sometimes the best looking parts aren't the best performing. I'll always struggle to balance form vs function! Great video 👍

@tgwazu

2 жыл бұрын

“Sometimes the best looking parts aren't the best performing.” You mean like a Harley? ..though Indians really look better

@delgande

2 жыл бұрын

@@tgwazu theyre both fine just preference The 116 and 114 are nearly identical

I LOVE this video. I LOVE the VBlog w/ comedic editing.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

More to come...and stop being such a suck up. :D

@ericsuperhawk

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians ha ha ha Brian soooo knows me.

Glad it all worked out my friend

I’ve done the Stage 1 and 2 on my Harley Electra Glide and never looked back. I have done nothing on my GoldWing GL-1800. Stock all the way baby! I also have the Freedomsheild on my Harley. Best windscreen I have ever used. I DO wish John over at Freedomsheild’s would make one for the GL-1800. That would be the only upgrade I would do on the Honda

Love love love my Vance and Hines. (They were on when I bought it) I HAVE made a big mistake recently though. I should do a rebuttal video.

We added slipons to our Road Glide Limited but that's it so far. Not sure if we will do anything to the motor. More power sounds great but not sure how the Harley motor will handle it.

Not gonna happen here! I’d never take a salad over wings!!! Thanks for the input on the exhausts, alas, I am happy with the factory pipes. They’re quiet enough for everyday use but have a nice rumble when I twist the throttle... Stay happy, Ride safe!

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Right on!

@jimrhodes3487

Жыл бұрын

AMEN!

@miniminamanmina3715

3 ай бұрын

Me too , my Indian Chief Vintage year 2018 111 motor is fine for me stock. I have a Husky FE350 S and a BETA 200RR for fun in the dirt . Nothing wrong with doing performance stuff , just not my bag.

Great info thanks for the video .

Great video!!!

Amen brother. Tru Duals sound like a great idea, until you install them. I lost power on my Chieftain and RM once I put the Freedoms on. Oh well life lessons learned. LOL.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

facts are facts, no doubt about it

I have the stage 2 cam upgrade with an Arlen Ness HO and TABs with the medium baffles. It came with a set of Zombies that are still in the box. I'm on the fence about swapping them out. Bike is a 2016 Springfield, also have the Dyna module which I haven't used yet. Anyway, the current exhaust set up sounds really good and I'm not sure if I put in the Zombies, if I'll need to retune it.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

You could always try the Zombies but I hear they’re really loud. Too much for me.

I’m wanting to get 14 inch handle bars were besides the dealer is the best sight to buy?

I guess there are good sides to being cheap. I wanted the true dual system on my ‘16 Springfield but was too cheap, but I’m handy! So I cut the cat out and welded her back up. After a set of used stage 1 pipes, a DIY K&N high flow intake, and a PV3 tune, it runs great with little heat. Now my ‘21 Roadmaster, she will stay completely stock for quite a while, banking on longevity will win out there.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

100% smart ^^^^

Glad i just got the 116 in 2020 and did the air cleaner and muffler and that's it. Happy with the power did not get greedy and spend my money on people feeding of people who always want more. I am happy with my Roadmaster plus i added a lot of upgrades when i bought it from floor boards to windshield garage door opener and so on.52 grand Canadian. Glad i never did cams or any of the other crap that screws with the motor and gives you losses instead of gains!

another very cool story :-)......it confirms, if you try too many things, some has to fail :-).....It seems in terms of exhaust systems I had more luck. Bought with the new Bike in 2016 a Jekill & Hyde valve system. Per push the button I can adjust it from very silent to small earthquake and to heavy thunder stroke. Still love the sound and stage 3 is the next step. Just ordered the Stage one classic high flow chrome filter which I need anyway for the big bore kit. Amazing that you gained 114 Horse Power and 125 ft of tourque (170 Nm) !!! Best regards from Germany, Björn

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Where ya been brother? Been thinking about you as I’m working on my review video of the R18.

@bjornaltmann8184

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians Please excuse my abstinence, have been immersed in the world of adventure bikes for a few weeks since I made the mistake of riding a BMW GS. Now I know what second bike I need. It will probably be a GS 1250 Adventure, then I am one of very many here in Europe, but thanks to my Indian I still remain exclusive! :-).......R 18!....sells so far quite bad in Germany. Check out the video from Robert Simmons about the R 18 Transcontinental, a pretty disastrous verdict! I have so far only sat on the R 18. You sit better than expected and the build quality is absolutely top, truly Made in Germany ! :-) ....Best, Björn

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like fun. Essentially the same feelings here in the R18. A pointless endeavor.

Good video; I've heard your point echo'd by others re: FP True Duals; however, in my my case -- for 2018 RoadMaster 111, with Tier1 Tuner (FP TD header and hi-flo AF), all feels to be as performant or better than stock configuration (definitely cooler and of course - sounds great!). I do question whether this setup conflicts with air-fuel mix in the system when running at high elevations in high heat where lean engine code was thrown but ... the 100+ heat (weather; not engine), isn't good for anything. Cheers!

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not just limited to FP, it’s any TD config. To be fair.

@dakotaburns7551

2 жыл бұрын

@ridewithtwoindians - I believe I heard you correctly that you went with FP 2-1 … forgive my ignorance / lack of knowledge (I had Indian install my system), did you keep the FP header install or was that replaced too? (Likely the latter now that I think of the function of a True Dual header.)

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

First I had stock header with FP slip ons. Then I went to true dual headers, same slip ons. Then purchased full 2:1 system, came with new mufflers, complete system.

May I ask what 2:1 system you went with? The bike sounds really good. I had Freedom true duals on my 2016 Vintage. Loved them. I had only the 116 stage 3 OEM tune. In San Antonio TX nobody is really interested in tuning an Indian the right way. I tried tuning and when I shut off the bike, the garage smelled like gas. That was a result of the tune. I have a 2021 Springfield now and I think it needs an exhaust update.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

That is a Freedom Performance 2:1 system. Try the guys at RVS Performance for a tune, he remote tuned my 116. very happy. the power was rolled off a tiny bit but the operation was much smoother. Way better.

Spent a lot of time and money putting racing pipes on my XR 1200 and eventually put it back to stock because the noise was hurting my head and I noticed the loss of torque & Power commander & dyno tune Did not help

Thanks for the video I’m wanting to swap to this same exhaust after hearing your comparison video. Is there only one standard muffler that comes with their 2into 1? Sounds great!

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

There’s only one standard, which is what I wound up with, there are louder inserts however so you have like 4 options I think. 👍👍

@ozarkbagger1380

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians awesome thanks man!

Wow man I am surprise I though true dual would increase power and torque. Thanks, now I know.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

You're not the only one that was surprised. I mean look at a top fuel dragster or funny car, they don't give a rip about scavanging or back pressure, 18" bent pipe and GO! LOL.

@derfskittlers6125

Жыл бұрын

I think you lose some needed back pressure.

Love from DeKalb Mississippi USA 🇺🇸

I did a cat delete and punched the plug out of the stock pipes. Lost power. Sounds ok and runs a little cooler but miss the power. Haven’t decided how to fix it. Any suggestions.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Put a Power Commander by DynoJet on there and get it from RVS performance. Hell do a remote tune for ya and make you a happy man!

@derfskittlers6125

Жыл бұрын

Tune and flash are needed after these changes.

I love happy endings👍

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

LOLOL

I am doing a little guessing and you can correct me if I’m wrong. When you added the big bore kit I’m assuming you went from 111 to 116 ci. And the torque was 126. That is disappointing. As much as I would like to try an Indian Springfield I keep running into the lack of aftermarket options. I was expecting to here when you went to a 116 your torque was in the low 130’s.

@TwoIndians

11 ай бұрын

There are several aftermarket options for BBKs up to 131 that have over 170t lbs of torque.

@brucesmith7858

11 ай бұрын

@@TwoIndians please, elaborate on what manufacturer does that. I’m sort of looking at a Springfield but that and several other things are kind of holding me back right now, so if you know companies that offer, big bore kits, pistons cams, heads, intakes, manifolds, please elaborate.

What Brand/Model Number Highway Pegs are those?

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Kuryakyn Dual ISO pegs. Www.Amazon.com/twoindians

@dugefresh7063

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians the link doesn't connect do you know the Model/Part#?

Keep a pair of spongey earplugs on the bike for your hearing issues. Silicon ones are better but block out too much sound. Gotta be able to hear a thing or two while riding for safety's sake.

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

I always wear hearing protection. EarPeace is the item of choice these days, most comfortable and don’t come loose as much as the foam ones.

Listening to your 'Muffler' story has left me almost 'Exhausted', as I feel your pain. Truth be told, I am really 'Baffled' that no one told you ahead of time what was going to happen when you 'quietly' ordered the new stuff expecting improved performance. But then you resorted to 'loudly' expressing your disappointment at expending so much ca$h for naught. ..😪.🤐.. But seriously I rather enjoy hearing about your mods. When I finally land a decent deal on my next bike it'll certainly be an Indian. Probably not one off the showroom floor, but a well maintained used one, low milg., with all records & receipts, & close to home. You know, one driven only on Sundays to church by a little olde lady. WHAT, you say there's no such a thing?! Well I have 2 lined up (2014, 2015) about 50-70 miles from home. I'll let you know when it happens. As for the little olde lady part, that was stretching it a bit. Nice to listen to someone with vids that I can understand for clear speech. thnx. My other hobby, campin' with my AS trailer. Had I thought longer, I might have picked up a toy hauler. So much for planning. That cost me tons more than your muffler experiences. That should make you feel better. ..............from the Silver Conestoga Wagon driver in New England. .....

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Not bad, not bad at all. Extra points for creativity!

So...Freedom mufflers with standard baffles is where it ended up?

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Correct. You can get a louder baffle from them but these are loud enough TBH. Still would like quieter but not willing to sacrifice performance.

@bobkrueger194

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians curious to know if you have heard bikes with Rinehart and how they compare in loudness? My Rineharts are driving my tinnitus nuts?

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobkrueger194 a buddy has the slimline headers and mufflers but not sure which RHs he has. It’s about the same volume level IMHO. I have the same issue with My hearing and it’s getting worse. Hearing protection is a must but TBH the wind noise is just as loud as the pipes.

What size and brand of handlebars?

@TwoIndians

7 күн бұрын

Indian 16” bars

Hey Brian , here's a tip , WEAR SOME GOOD EAR PLUGS!!! NOT ONLY WILL IT QUIET THELOUDPIPES , BUT IT WILL ALSO SAVE YOUR EARS FROME DAMAGE " Hearing Loss " from WIND NOISE!!! I Have Road Burner Double Eagles on my 04 Roadstar , without baffles " stock baffles also sounded worse than factory baffles " and with my 33 decibel ear plugs in she sounds wonderful , and even with the ear plugs in , you can still hear everything around you very well , because of the wind noise reduction . I've been riding for almost 30 years , and have been wearing earplugs for about 25 of them , and my hearing is still very good , well Yan know when I don't have my " Selective Hearing turned on for the wife" 🤣

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Greg, see THIS video :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/opmMy7WinrWqeKw.html thanks for watching!

Which gopro you using? The picture is amazing.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

that's a Hero7 beleive it or not 2.7k @30fps. The secret to youtube is the export settings.

@JarheadSixRides

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians wow it is Amazing. Thank you

@virginiatrailcameravideos

7 ай бұрын

@@TwoIndians Could you share what export settings you're using? I continue to struggle with this.

Is that the pv3 dyno tuner?

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Yessir!

Bassani and 2 into 1 is the best.

I need pipes on my Vespa.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

LOL

👍👍

Now I think I’m going to leave my super chief stock.

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

Just don’t do a 2:1 exhaust and don’t change things after you’ve got it set up

Where in Florida do you live?

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

North Orlando area.

@javiermugarra5064

Жыл бұрын

Im down in Miami. Would you buy another springfield? I have been looking at them for a while now to get as a second bike to bar hop and ride without wife

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

@@javiermugarra5064 i still have it and ride it from time to time for a little bit of cool factor. handles great and the sound of 116 and 2:1 is just phenomenal. Yeah, perfect bike for that. I mean Ive taken this think on 3k mile trips but my new(ish) Challenger is my touring preference.

@javiermugarra5064

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians my tourer is a victory vision

The only thing I've done to my Springfield was DE-CAT and add a stereo system. The bike was awesome from the factory. I don't know why poeple buy these awesome, beautiful bikes then change them. I had mine at 100mph almost immediately after I got it and guessed that was FAST ENOUGH... I love my 16 Springfield!

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

Everyone wants to make it their own which is completely understandable. Some people like them stock.

@jimrhodes3487

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians Beauty, eye of the beholder and all that... To each his own... etc... :)

I buy bikes with horsepower from the factory. Less weight is the most bang for the buck. Both Indian and Harley need more carbon fiber and aluminum. Cheaper to place larger motors vs cutting off weight.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

well to be fair to HD and Indian I doubt your average cruiser rider will care if it has carbon fiber parts as not everyone cares so much about power. I grew up tinkering on hot rods throughout my youth and love the process of experimenting and learning. A lot of the people I know don't care about going fast or increasing HP. Thanks for watching!

I've heard quite a few horror stories on indian, and hd 2

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

It’s not about the brand, it’s about making modifications. All of my Indians have been rock solid with only minor repairs normal for any machine.

You should have stopped to get some cheese for that wine.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

I actually had to pull over for all the tears streaming down my face...its a public service

Modifying a motorcycle is pretty much an endless money drain. 😂 That said I very happy with Indian stage ones. Sound good without being stupid loud

@ericsuperhawk

2 жыл бұрын

Truth

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

agreed, the next motorcycle I buy will remain stock....bwahahahaha, cough cough, ok ok... whew,

Big bore...cams...need a 2 into 1 header pipe...

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Check, check and double check. Got it all

@bradlozano2571

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians I did the same thing on my TC103 and the 2 into 1 Propipe was the cherry on top....

I had to rewind the screaming goat.

@ericsuperhawk

2 жыл бұрын

Becky liked the goat. Could you make an entire video of goats? Cause that would be swell. Tater Tot would LOVE that. 👊🤠🐐

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

there's a whole goat screaming sub culture that far exceeds the reach of this little channel

I use my 2017 Springfield for long distance touring often 2 up often on narrow windy roads. The only modifications are an oil cooler, heated grips and touring seat and top box (trunk set up) all factory 2 tone and Garmin GPS. It's a great bike with good acceleration and handling especially 2 up where it is far superior to even my BMW R1200R. For me however modifying the engine for greater pure performance is pointless. It is great to ride as it is. But it's no sports bike and never will be. My BMW in terms of performance and the handling to cope with the performance will always kill any Indian. Because it's mass is so much less and handling so much better. But guess which bike I ride. The Indian. Because it is such a lovely bike to ride. I love both bikes and so sadly I won't be selling either ever...

Sell me your Springfield!!! :-)

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Make me an offer! Do 6 shots of tequila first please!

@gregleblanc9357

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians lol

Sturgis Indian had (still has?) their own brand of straight pipes, just sayin’…. Lol

You Americans, you are TOO obsessed with HP and getting that "biggest" and "longest" etc. on your futile attempt to outsmart one of the smartest engineering teams out there, who are doing it professionally to create such FINE piece of machinery that is Indian! This is a pipe dream boys and girls! The best machine, also most appreciating in its value after years gone by, is a FACTORY ORIGINAL! Rather enjoy the ride and let the machine do what it is designed to do - to get you there... Coming from one, who has been riding for 47 years and started up from 15cc...

@TwoIndians

10 ай бұрын

As if people outside America are not consumed with modifications or performance?? Gimme a break. 🤣 Your personal desires for a stock bike are also shared by many Americans but MY individual goals are driven by improved performance. If your impressions are that the bikes are perfect and optimally designed from the factory, why are the race bikes putting out far more power? Enjoy what you have the way YOU like and I’ll do what I want to my bike.

Disagree, did the big bore first than true dual, I'm very satisfied.

@TwoIndians

2 жыл бұрын

Did you get it tuned when you installed the True Duals?

Motorcycles are a lot like “Pandora’s Box” and women 😂😂😂 (no offense Mrs. Barb) Life is way more fun with them than without 😜👍

Salad instead of chicken wings...blasphemy!

Sounds like you just made some bad choices, bud. Experimenting costs money. Nothing I have ever read, not one, says 2 pipes give you more performance than a 2-1.

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

Yep, but it’s a learning process right? Hopefully I can save someone from making the same bad decisions.

@paulthompson8649

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians For sure! That’s the fun in it for me. It’s not fun to spend money on stuff that doesn’t pan out though. I’ve been there. Not throwing shade at all. I’m surprised you found someone to dyno an Indian. I can’t find anyone where I am. Not even Indian dealers.

Dude come on, you buy a new bike as sweet as that and when you get it home you now how can I fuck it spend a heap of cash doing it. Why?? Streamers on the handlebars would have been it.

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

LOL, you’re not wrong but for me this gives me the same feeling as when I was young and had hot rods. Always wanting more power, better looks, better stereo etc. it’s all about making it MY bike…it’s not like I’m alone with these thoughts. I bet maybe 5% of the motorcycle universe leaves their bike stock

@MightyMick88

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoIndians I know what you mean, it's an awesome bike best of luck dude.

My unprofessional opinion says this guy is an anal retentive overthinker? I bought a used 2016 Springfield a couple years ago. l gutted the cat the first week I owned it and have just ridden it ever since. What's with all the needing to change things constantly supposedly trying to improve it?

@TwoIndians

Жыл бұрын

Bwahahaha, anal retentive over thinker? No man. I wanted to quiet down the bike a little bit due to my tinnitus. The new baffles wrecked the power output so I put them back in. Smdh.

@derfskittlers6125

Жыл бұрын

It's ok to be anal. Trying new things is fun and there are lots of choices for modifications. Just gotta be smart and do some research.