All spreadsheets and data used for this video can be found here: drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HHG1iZBO4kRNe29AHyoRd3QVw2zqZbH6?usp=share_link Feel free to download them and use the data for whatever you like! I still need to update the vintage pops so those spreadsheets will still just be the August 1st ones. Access the full WATA pop reports by just searching "WATA pop reports" on your browser.

@blockbusterlatefees7713

Жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks!

96% of games eligible for a $8 badge upgrade...surprise surprise

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha not even Karl caught the real scam taking place...

Just found your channel and Wow.. as someone who collects gamecube and n64 this is like a treasure trove of information… thank you for having all these resources available! Subbed+

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

🤝🤝

Appreciate the work you put into summarizing the data and sharing!

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

10.0 A++ analysis right here

Fantastic work, Greg!

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Seth!

Great video Greg

Im taking advantage of the dip for sure. Maybe I’m definitely making speculative plays for sure but seeing as all aspects of collectables have dropped I’m taking advantage of the market. Been buying sealed games such as Pokémon big ip titles, and even buying singles of Pokémon cards and slabs for very low prices. The way looking as if your buying msrp or low. Even if your taking a speculative approach I think you will do fine long term. Anyone expecting to buy a Wii U game or 3ds game and getting a high grade and magically making profits will be disappointed especially now that we are going to a rescission pretty much globally since post Covid. I do believe if you can buy the titles at low rates and are sealed or near mint you can do well long term. I think we are finally starting to see real prices on eBay, and auction houses and will start to get real true values on things. I also believe we will soon see the hobby shift more towards really only value collectors editions or special edition version of games like Pokémon double packs which have a much lower print run then a traditional Pokémon Scarlett or violet by itself.

Awesome video. Thanks for sharing

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

🤝

The only thing I want to know is, is Mizkif still losing money?

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Some things is the world you can just trust to stay consistent!

9.8 C is the future 😂

@Dooctorful

Жыл бұрын

You just inspired me to try a new little project. I'm going to try to acquire each game in it's lowest grade possible for a console. Maybe for N64... It shouldn't be that expensive and I feel like it'll be fun. No 9.8 C's though, true low grade gems!

That's why the pop report is fun. I have a 9.8 A++ Paper Mario color Splash pop 2. But for speculation, the report tells you the lowest grade you can get away with. My only guess would be were those games submitted this year since there's been a stricter seal grade?

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Individual games will always need their own analysis based on relative availability or possible ancillary factors, but seeing the overall trends are very interesting!

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Also, nice color splash👌👌

Another Wata issue I have is the top end of Wata is to easy to get for modern. VGA is nice because you can shoot for 90 or 95 (which is still hard to get), and still be very happy with an 85+ which can easily cross to a 9.8 A+. But then again VGA is still to expensive and turnaround times hurt.

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

I agree as well. I feel way better about a VGA 90 modern than even 9.6 A+

@Mitjitsu

Жыл бұрын

I do value a 95+ from VGA more than a WATA 9.8 A++, but until we get pop reports we don't know how they truly grade games.

@clrodrick

Жыл бұрын

according to the latest cross grading report a VGA 87+ can also easily cross to a 9.2 or 9.4 A+. Everybody keeps claiming VGA always crosses to a very high Wata grade, but the facts show there is a wide dispersion

@Alma-B

Жыл бұрын

i love dumping 85+ on vga collectors who think its equivalent to a 9.8 A+ 🤣

@alex12104

Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely NOT easy getting a 9.8 or even a 9.6 in modern.

LOL, market is so oversaturated with graded games. People grading modern games for the hope of them being worth something in the future I'd a fallacy. The reason why old Gen sealed games are worth more is because at the time , no one had any concept of a future market for sealed games . They were meant to be played , so people opened them. Now everyone's trying to make a buck on modern era sealed games , or think values will go up. Especially those warehouse finds of older games , just imagine the stockpiles of new Gen games just sitting out there .

@Foslopac

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Video games were not a category of collectible when Nintendo exploded in 1987. Now everyone knows you can make money off them so they'll save new games, thinking prices will reflect an organically low supply. Same thing happened with Star Wars figures and sports cards. Too late, guys.

@sharporigami5216

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes I see sealed games listed on Offerup and wonder if these people are desperate.

Another issue re Breath of the Wild WiiU is that a lot of those graded copies are capitalizing on the box variant

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely! The 7 controller misprint hype is 100% what led people to (apparently) send in any copy they could possibly find haha. Even the 7 controller was close to 200 copies I think

@zmbigmr

Жыл бұрын

@@GetTheGreg What is your guess in regards to BotW Misprint, Gold Cover Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD by the next Pop Report, one years time, two years time? 10% increase in the next 4 months? 25% over the next year? I'm sure there are sealed copies of these games, but just how many are out there is the question. The Hype train hit BotW misprint early. I'd figure a lot of people that had this game and wanted to cash out jumped at their first opportunity... 🤷🏼‍♂ I'm curious, especially since these numbers on WiiU are comparable if not more than Zelda's found on earlier Nintendo systems. I almost want to say the Zelda BotW misprint sprinted out the gate, but won't be able to keep that momentum. You know more about what's out there than I do, so I may be far off on my thought.

@hieinh

Жыл бұрын

@@GetTheGreg 9.6 A+ is only at 21 though

What a surprise, half of the Spiderman 2600 games were 9.8 A++

The truth is that modern is the best. Plastic smells better than cardboard.

I wonder why wata doesn’t report ds grades

Per Wata scale, is it possible to score a 10 game grade, but A+ or lower seal? I have yet to see one, but you'd think it should be possible. If a 9.8 can score an A, A+ and the highly coveted A++ than it should be achievable for a 10 since the two are separate grades not dependent upon the other.

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Theoretically, you should be correct. In practice, no, 10 is only given out to "perfect" games, so 10 A++ is all that exists.

AMAZING ANALYSIS!! How many case packs do you think are in the POPs?? BRAIN POPper, Hopper

Very cool video, I'm not sure about gamecube, ps2, and xbox being considered "modern" though haha. I feel like they weren't part of the collecting shift toward saving sealies becoming more popular

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yea I personally wouldn't truly classify them that way as well, but they were lumped in with dvd style cases so they all share that trait. I consider the 360/PS3 gen to be the start of "modern".

Just submitted the Jak and Daxter Trilogy PS4 Limited Run Games! POP 1 Baby 💥🧨

What the market looking like for cgc video games

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Still too early to say. There are going to be a bunch coming up at heritage auctions and eBay soon enough though. By the end of January we should have a good gauge!

Insane how much the GTA pack can influence the data, There must be a ton of them out there not graded

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yea, they literally skew the entire PS2 pop haha. Realistically, I probably should have just done PS2 with them all removed

@FigsyGames

Жыл бұрын

@@GetTheGreg yes and no, I think it makes it really interesting. As a collector If I was to want a graded GTA III, Vice City or San Andreas I would only want a first print copy... but that's me

I was so excited to get my 9.4 A+Devil's Third back. Now, not so much.

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Still a solid grade on a very sought after title!

Should I be submitting to cgc because wata case's will be changing 😢. I feel like the change will effect the purchases moving forward because people want the newer version of the wata case.

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Uhhhmmm, I don't think the new case vs old case will be a huge factor. At least not for another full year (where we can see any kind of pure preference). Many, many collectors are going to have full collections of the old cases, so they assumedly will want to continue to buy old cases for quite awhile.

@I300MHEADSH0T

Жыл бұрын

@@GetTheGreg You're right plus people have a choice for recase if they choose. 😌 I feel at ease thanks 🙏. Can't wait for more unboxing videos. You got the best stuff

@clrodrick

Жыл бұрын

@@I300MHEADSH0T exactly, recasing should be a fairly easy process

Consistency 🥳

This data shows me the most popular Nintendo franchise is Zelda. Hands down

Has anyone found a sealed copy of sly cooper 2 ? 😂 just asking because I can't find one in good condition anywhere. P.S great vid Greg , just started watching you a month or so ago.

Not looking at the chart but I'm going to assume gamecube graded sealed are going to be rarer then PS3 and 360 Current prices for PS3 or 360 I'm just spending the extra dollar or two for a sealed copy than used.

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Generally speaking, they *should be*,, but it's going to be game by game basis. Some 360 and PS3 will for sure end up being more rare than some GC

The thing that I found interesting is that people shouldn't be submitting GTA San Andreas PS2 games for submission as there common as water. A San Andreas 9.6 A++ or 9.6 A+ is akin to striking out being that many other copies are graded higher with more to come. Another bit of information I would like to know is how many Zelda Breath of the Wild Nintendo Switch games have been graded and to know if the Wii U version (1st official release), has sold for more at auction compared to Breath of the Wild for the Nintendo Switch. I do know somebody paid $10K for a Breath of the Wild Switch game and if the Switch version has sold for more over that of the Wii U version it wouldn't seem right, granted I don't know if a 10.0 has been graded for a Wii U version of Breath of the Wild.

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

With San Andreas, their is still the actual retail print which only has around 100-200 copies submited vs the rest of them being the "common as dirt" trilogy edition reprint. Those trilogy edition games completely diluted all 3 of the GTA games. With BOTW Wii U, I'm not sure if you're aware there is the "7 controller" first print misprint as well as the corrected 2nd print? The hype for the first print is what led to so many copies of both prints being submitted. I can't remember what the game eventually peaked at... 4000ish maybe? BOTW switch also has a sale right in that range for a super high grade. These days, both are worth far less than their peak but I actually think the switch version might be pulling ahead now🤔 Need to see some more auctions of each haha

@blitzkrieg1174

Жыл бұрын

@@GetTheGreg I'm aware of the "7 controller" misprint on the Wii U version of BOTW, $4000ish for such a game seems conservative for the 1st print run knowing people are willing to shell out $10K for BOTW on Switch graded 10.0. It seems odd that the Switch version may be pulling ahead.

I have a King Of Fighters Xbox 360 graded but not on the report 😢. Why is this?

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Oh that's weird. NTSC version?

@jamesdfulhamfc

Жыл бұрын

It’s a PAL version. Would this be the reason?

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesdfulhamfc yup. PAL, Japanese, other regions still aren't reflected on the pop reports

Wata PSP when..... dead ass might just use CGC

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Yea, I'd say the next bet for even having a chance at PSP is another 4 months or so. No word on it at this point

modern/dvd style cases: 9.6 A++ > 9.8 A+ , cardboard box games: 9.8 A+ > 9.6 A++ , logic here: valuing seal grade more on the hard cases, and valuing the box grade on the softer cardboard boxes.

At this rate, WATA will start to grade pre-ordered games

Why is it not going to be easy to get a 9.6 A+ on premium titles like Halo & Halo 2 if an overwhelming majority of the console's games grade at 9.6 A+? Did Microsoft commission inferior plastic for these titles? Perhaps WATA is grading premium titles differently than common ones? Every grading company does it :( I get it :( ...... I hate it :( ....

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

I just mean it's probably going to be very expensive for someone to do so haha.

Mario Galaxy club feels a little less special now.

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Mario Galaxy Club is an elite crew🥲

This is why seal is eveything for modern people!! This is why wata essentially has 3 grades for modern 1. (Poo) A. 2. (As nice as most raw) A+ 3. (85+ and maybe higher) A++

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

Definitely makes me appreciate 90 and above on dvd cases. I really want to see how the VGA pop report stacks up now.

Are you paid by, sponsored by or offered any discounts by Heritage Auction or WATA, or their subsidiaries or their staff... to create videos about their company(s) and services?

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

I was able to previously partner with Heritage for my livestream coverage of their auctions, specifically, and hope to continue that relationship. All sponsored streams/videos are obviously disclosed as such. Any video you see is made because I think it's interesting enough to talk about, not because I'm being paid. Given that this video is quite negative towards WATA's grading standards, hopefully you didn't assume this is paid content haha. I'd probably be fired👌 Oh, also, I had to check our last encounter... Did you figure out that WATA and Heritage have no affiliation since WATA was bought by CU in 2021? Last we spoke, you called Heritage WATA's parent company, despite CU literally owning their own auction house as well, Goldin. I didn't feel like continuing to argue with you then, but felt I should let you know now since I'm replying anyway.

@mewimi

Жыл бұрын

​@@GetTheGreg Hello, thank you for the reply. I suppose I should ask more clearly, are you receiving a numerous funds or partnered with any of these companies in general other than the mentioned live stream? By the way, I don't think it necessarily matters who bought the company, as long as the same bad actors are involved. And I'm not going to discount the possibility of collusion with HA with any of these grading companies. Also I believe Wata is currently being sued for market manipulation if I'm not mistaken.

When you spend this much time on BS like this, it's time to do something better with your life during those wasteful moments.

These pops have changed my mind a little on A++. A++ seems almost unobtainable on most systems so I feel much better about buying A+ on pretty much anything

@GetTheGreg

Жыл бұрын

That is very true as well, actually. Good point!