The Truth About Elton John's Vocal Surgery

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Over the years there's been a lot of misunderstandings and misconceptions about what happened to Elton John's voice after he had to have vocal cord surgery in 1987, due to having developed vocal nodules during his 1986 tour.
Many people make claims about him having lost any semblance of the voice and abilities he once had, with some folks claiming things like the surgery ruined his voice, and that he hasn't sounded good since.
So I thought it might be interesting to do an in depth look at some of these misconceptions and show how Elton John retained more of his voice after his surgery than most people realize!
It's a subject I find incredibly fascinating and I'm always excited to get the chance to talk about it, so hopefully folks out there will find it interesting! The entire year of Elton's vocal downfall will be discussed in depth in an upcoming video project in collaboration with GregSynthWizard sometime this year so keep an eye out for that!
As always, thanks for watching! And if you'd be interested in seeing more analysis videos like this, please do let me know!
If you'd like to hear to a selection of recordings from his 1986 concerts that document his vocal downfall, this playlist contains excellent examples to listen through:
• Elton John - 1986 Voca...
VIDEO BREAKDOWN:
00:00 Introduction
01:54 Elton's Voice (1979-1985)
04:38 Breakdown of Vocal Problems
09:50 What Happened?
13:15 Pre-Surgery Vocals Vs. Post-Surgery Vocals
20:00 Wrap Up/Final Thoughts
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  • @bradylove9825
    @bradylove9825 Жыл бұрын

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  • @leefaulk3195

    @leefaulk3195

    10 ай бұрын

    🎉

  • @thestorysongsnl9397

    @thestorysongsnl9397

    5 ай бұрын

    You could be the brother of jim carry!

  • @ladycharlesmusic
    @ladycharlesmusic11 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised there are people who say he lost his abilities after the surgery - I find his later singing quite beautiful and deep, a bit like Scott Walker's timbre. But it's interesting to note that he had already been changing his singing style before the surgery and also had experienced physical changes - I never realized how close his singing actually was before and after. Seems the far bigger change was simply singing lower with age later on which many artists do regardless of surgery. Thanks for the video, very interesting and informative and definitely going to avoid smoking 40 spliffs before my next show.

  • @GregsynthWizard
    @GregsynthWizard2 жыл бұрын

    What a fantastic video! All the bases were covered and the final thoughts section was brilliant and hilarious. Best video about Elton's vocal surgery out there!

  • @rustybearden1800
    @rustybearden180011 ай бұрын

    I've seen EJ over thirty times in concert and the 1979 US leg of the "From Russia With Love" tour was my first show and it is probably the best performance of all. He came out (sans glasses which was a scandal in and of itself) dressed in a gold lame Nudie suit, aka Elvis, stage left his Steinway Concert Grand and stage right a Yamaha CP80 electric piano, center stage Ray Cooper's elaborate percussion set up. No band, no huge production - just EJ and his talent and songbook. His voice was magic, his playing technique on point. The fact that he survived the crisis with his voice is a testament to his dedication to his artistry and his legacy. He's been doing this for over fifty years - there's bound to be some wear and tear. Great post addressing a rarely discussed subject.

  • @GregsynthWizard
    @GregsynthWizard Жыл бұрын

    Marijuana might be a "soft drug" and not the most dangerous substance to use, but it is absolutely terrible on the vocal cords. While Elton used marijuana along with cocaine and alcohol during his addiction period, the marijuana use increased during the 1984 time-frame (you can hear the effects on his state of mind during the American leg of the tour and it sometimes compromised his vocal prowess) and by the European 1986 tour, its effects were starting to damage and change his voice (compromised falsetto, tone getting husky/darker). There are numerous links to vocal fold scarring and related damage (nodules, polyps, hemorrhages, etc) from excessive marijuana smoking.

  • @GregsynthWizard

    @GregsynthWizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @Elijah Alexander Thank you!

  • @willthetrill4849

    @willthetrill4849

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember smoking weed and I went to sing right afterwards and I felt a burn in my throat

  • @mikesutter5700
    @mikesutter57002 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. This is exactly the kind of research and insight onto Elton's vocal progression I have wanted for YEARS. Julie Andrews - now that's a botched surgery.

  • @sarahmiller4069
    @sarahmiller4069 Жыл бұрын

    Elton John has been an awesome singer his whole life and I am so glad that he has had a long life and has spent it sharing his voice with us

  • @grandpinball5840
    @grandpinball5840 Жыл бұрын

    One thing that was not noted in this video was the fact he also recorded an album during this time. If you listen to leather jackets you can hear all sorts of different vocal states on all of the different tracks. Just listen to heartache all over the world and you can hear The Strain

  • @crimsonmillenis
    @crimsonmillenis10 ай бұрын

    I feel like there are a lot of people who are nostalgic for the more falsetto-heavy voice he sang in during most of the 70's and forget he adopted the deeper singing voice in '79. That's my take at least.

  • @RetroSoulGirl
    @RetroSoulGirl2 жыл бұрын

    This is so brilliant- a few years ago I really wanted to make this video myself but I didn't have all the resources or enough info to put it all together. I'm so glad you explained everything so clearly, because so many people NEED to hear this. Not everyone goes in the archives to listen to those shows so I'm so glad you did and could clear things up. It really does a great service to Elton and the fanbase. One thing in particular that I hate is how the 1988-1990 period for Elton gets horribly ignored. I feel like this is due to Elton appearing "sick and like and old man" due to his blonde hair and formal suits on stage. They don't want to give his shows/songs in this period a listen because they claim he looks too sad and pitiful especially because of the drugs. But IMO some of his all-time best vocal performances were in this era and it helps celebrate who Elton really is. He had the ultimate range in 1989, like he did in 1979, but his tone was just deeper or whatever. But it was all still there just in a different way. And maybe people refuse to like this period because they want to remember Elton of the 70s or early 80s but I feel like it isn't fair to discredit the growth that Elton has made overall over the years. I truly feel that his age has helped mature and grow his voice, both naturally by the age progression physically, and by more years of experience and training. When he became truly sober, THAT was like, the best decision of his entire life obviously, and in the years 1992-1999 (but especially 1993ish) you can hear his voice almost being uplifted. His soul had changed, and the way he sang was heavenly. There was more emotion in his voice than EVER before, and I'd argue that the vocal surgery was kind of the beginning of this change. After the surgery, he probably smoked less weed, which was the beginnings of his rehab. All in all, I feel like the surgery was a blessing in Elton's life because it was a wakeup call about his unhealthy lifestyle, and he was able to have a surgery that had little to no effect on his voice at all. It's like developing lung cancer because you smoke but then you could just magically remove the cancer after the patient is terrified and learns their lesson. But of course, we have Ryan White to thank for teaching him that lesson :)

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  • @julieannemichelle
    @julieannemichelle Жыл бұрын

    I saw Elton John 5 times in the 70’s starting in 1971 and my last concert of the 70’s was 1976. Then I took my son to see Elton in 1994. His vocals were amazing in every live concert in the 70’s. Maybe not taking the best of care of vocal chords over the years and doing so much singing and pot smoking messed up his singing voice. That was the case with Joni Mitchell. She smoked like a chimney and it messed up her range and deepened her voice.

  • @Trainergamer123
    @Trainergamer1232 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely snatched it!!!! From such a massive Elton John fan this was very much needed. Thank you!!!

  • @majesticlove9767
    @majesticlove9767 Жыл бұрын

    This video brought me to tears because I’m suffering from the same nodules (for a year now). My vocal surgery is in July, and I can’t wait to sing again.

  • @DanielBice

    @DanielBice

    8 ай бұрын

    Hope the surgery went well😊

  • @salvadorealiberto
    @salvadorealiberto Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Really good breakdown. Yes, the timbre is richer in 1978 - 1985. I would say he goes from a 3 to a 6 in richness and then a 7.5 post surgery and now here he is at a 9 today.

  • @thomasglass7223
    @thomasglass72232 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic breakdown. People need to stop viewing the surgery itself as bad.

  • @lucasZr113
    @lucasZr1132 жыл бұрын

    Hey great work man, these investigation/doc kind of videos are really interesting, on the field of music even more as there doesn't seem to have a lot of people who have the knowledge for it

  • @liangeloball3647
    @liangeloball3647 Жыл бұрын

    this was absolutely fantastic !! Brady, you earned a sub!!! Great job!!!

  • @josephf426
    @josephf4262 жыл бұрын

    great video, thank you for this. I'd love maybe a part 2 of sorts where you talk about his development/evolution/regression post surgery

  • @JourneyLiveCompilations
    @JourneyLiveCompilations2 жыл бұрын

    You nailed this video! I learned a lot too from this! Thanks!

  • @blengi
    @blengi2 жыл бұрын

    Hmm, I'm learning to sing and am reasonably old, but I think to some degree I experienced what happened to Elton. One day I fatigued my falsetto completely, such that was what seemed like 0% activation of my Ct muscle(falsetto). Curiously this let me sing much heavier in chest voice which I kind of liked for some songs. However doing so regularly I noticed really unbalanced my mixed voice and made my subsequent use head voice/falsetto much less flexible. If I sing more than a few songs in this heavier coordination my voice becomes useless for softer nuanced/dynamic songs. I think Elton made the choice to stick with this kind of coordination because feels more reliable in the passagio/mixed range to the detriment of a his more boyish tone. I say this because he tends to bark out notes now, which is how I use it for rockier songs and the my change to adapt to this interesting discovery happened super fast compared to other singing changes.

  • @eliassandgren3132
    @eliassandgren31322 жыл бұрын

    Great job, I always thought to myself this was the case and have been surprised again and again over the years of the ignorance in some peoples statements and opinions regarding his voice change.

  • @kitslagle6296
    @kitslagle62962 жыл бұрын

    I miss the way his voice sounded in the 70s with songs like "Tiny Dancer", "Goodby Yellow Brick Road", and "Rocket Man". The voice he had in the 70s with those songs was golden. It was very different from how he sounds from the 80s 0n. He was ok in the 80s but the 70s was his best in my opinion.

  • @19kilo241

    @19kilo241

    Жыл бұрын

    Elton John actually said that he prefers the post surgery baritone over his 70s tenor.

  • @satyabratamishra4670

    @satyabratamishra4670

    Жыл бұрын

    @@19kilo241 i mean i do too

  • @paulrodriguez8852

    @paulrodriguez8852

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah! But he was young then . Most people when you get older your voice changes. Good example Paul McCartney, Brian Wilson, and others.

  • @Ceci_06
    @Ceci_062 жыл бұрын

    I like Elton John's music as much as your average person so I can't say I am a "fan" so I did not even know about this. But your video was very enlightening with many clips of comparison and time flew by! I'll go to sleep less stupid tonight, thanks !

  • @mikesutter5700
    @mikesutter57002 жыл бұрын

    Don't mean to be presumptuous, but this was honestly a great deep dive into Elton's vocal progression. Between this and your second channel with the detailed descriptions. Are you considering or planning continuing into Elton's voice in the late 80s, 90s, 00s and onward? Feels like one of the biggest untold stories of his career.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I’m so glad you like it. Definitely thought about making a video discussing how his voice evolved in the years following, leading up to present day.

  • @robdaviesprogm
    @robdaviesprogm Жыл бұрын

    I haven't even watched this video yet (it's too late at night to do so currently), but I *did* want to say how much I love that your video is 21 minutes and 33 seconds long, since his 1980 album was called 21 at 33 (21 albums released by the time Elton was 33). I'm sure you didn't intend this at all, but the die-hard Elton nerd that I am adored this unintentional Easter egg.

  • @EthanThompson-Murray
    @EthanThompson-Murray2 жыл бұрын

    Thank god the 1987 shows in America didn't take place, That would've killed the last bit of his voice.

  • @arlinealmeida
    @arlinealmeida Жыл бұрын

    I just love Elton's voice anyway. It feels like my ears were created to hear his really beautiful voice. When he sings totally hoarse, in the last live performances before the surgery, wow, his voice sounds even more fabulous! Elton, his voice, his art are absolutely everything! 🚀♥️♥️🇧🇷

  • @dsoccer1101
    @dsoccer11018 ай бұрын

    Wow, Brady. This is such an amazing video! All the research is spot on and the analysis backed by truthful information. I don't know if you're as much of an EJ fan as I am, but I would love to connect with you to discuss some other details of his voice and career. Thanks so much for putting this together!

  • @MichaelEMJAYARE
    @MichaelEMJAYARE Жыл бұрын

    Very helpful and thorough rundown. Thank you!

  • @patrickhealy1552
    @patrickhealy15522 жыл бұрын

    Best video on this topic. Great vocal samples too. 10/10

  • @MVboys2
    @MVboys22 жыл бұрын

    Nice video! Didn't know about the planned 1987 tour. I DREAD thinking how he would've sounded there.

  • @wagnercabrerisso5986
    @wagnercabrerisso59862 жыл бұрын

    *Congratulations ! It's a pretty job !! Sir Elton John has been the soundtrack of my entire life since long, long time ago.*

  • @gaminglegend
    @gaminglegend2 жыл бұрын

    I think when people say that the surgery ruined his voice, they're thinking about his voice nowadays (post 2010s) instead of his voice immediately after the surgery in 1988

  • @dosenwurst101

    @dosenwurst101

    Жыл бұрын

    To be honest, he doesn't sound bad for his 75 years of age. Especially the Ballads fitting perfect to his current voice, Your Song live in concert still sends shivers down my spine. I don't care about his lost falsetto, I love his deep, rich and matured voice. For me Elton was in his prime from the late 90's to the early 00's

  • @paulrodriguez8852

    @paulrodriguez8852

    Жыл бұрын

    Now I think it's just age? Look at Paul McCartney's voice? He never had throat surgery.

  • @Eltonstuffandthat

    @Eltonstuffandthat

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean he still sounds amazing

  • @kristijanEX

    @kristijanEX

    Жыл бұрын

    I personally think his voice had a bigger change from the late 70s to the early 80s rather than before and after surgery in '87.

  • @paulrodriguez8852

    @paulrodriguez8852

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kristijanEX Yes, we all age? For example? You don't speak like a teenager when you reach your 30's and 40's. So a lot of people don't understand the effects of aging.

  • @jackiehonda
    @jackiehonda10 ай бұрын

    Great video! Can't imagine the amount of research for this. I still think his post-surgery may have taken about 1 or 2 years so his voice could 'properly rest' and unleash his incredible full vocal range for the next decade. From The One album ('92) up to early 2000s with Road to El Dorado, that was my favorite era. However that doesn't mean I dislike Elton's voice nowadays. I guess he adapted himself so pretty well along the way!

  • @Czyszy
    @Czyszy10 ай бұрын

    Marvellous video. Your analysis is pretty fucking spot on. Amazing job! You did your research incredibly well.

  • @BenjiDarius
    @BenjiDarius2 жыл бұрын

    This was a brilliant video! I love all the performances and clips you put in there, especially having my favorite song (I'm Still Standing) and concert (Wembley 1984) in this video! So thank you!

  • @konniestaabmiller472
    @konniestaabmiller4722 жыл бұрын

    Big Elton fan. Seen him 19 times. 1979 was first. 2019 was last. Great video.

  • @IneptOrange
    @IneptOrange2 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting look at the controversy. Wasn't all that familiar with it.

  • @eltonherculesjohngigs2498
    @eltonherculesjohngigs24982 жыл бұрын

    Great Upload!

  • @joesamm1190
    @joesamm11902 жыл бұрын

    This was brilliant, thank you

  • @Jimbob_Offical
    @Jimbob_Offical Жыл бұрын

    I have recently gone down the Elton John voice rabbit hole, and from what I can tell he just never looked after his voice, once it started to degrade. He did drugs which didn’t help, and had bad habits that effected his voice. It also look like he didn’t give his voice much rest when on tour. The surgery did restore his voice and for a while he was singing perfect again, but because he didn’t look after his voice it was inevitable that his vocals would start to deteriorate. I rinks this started to happen in the mid 2000s. I don’t think old age helped as well.

  • @karmafrog1
    @karmafrog110 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed the hell out of this video, and I love there are people that are more obsessive about this topic than me.

  • @tony_2024
    @tony_2024Күн бұрын

    Ive never had vocal cord surgery, ive had my tonsils removed at a young age and i decided to keep my nodules. And to this day my singing still sounds the same.

  • @caramanico1
    @caramanico15 ай бұрын

    I have a boot from that Russian tour (the one with only Ray Cooper backing him). Incredible in every way, especially since you hear him playing more piano in order to cover up for the lack of a full band behind him. Another boot of his farewell shows in England is also fantastic, though the overall mood is glum (but the additional playing is fabulous).

  • @montecarloss305
    @montecarloss3052 жыл бұрын

    Props to you for picking Shoot Down the Moon and Japanese Hands on the Isolated Vocals demo. Both super-underrated songs.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! They were actually chosen for their obscurity. More casual fans wouldn’t necessarily know those songs, and in order for that “blind test” to work they needed to be songs people wouldn’t know as well since they’d probably know the year they were released

  • @jaggass
    @jaggass2 жыл бұрын

    He damaged his voice very quickly on the European leg of the Ice On Fire tour as you said on another video he trouble singing falsetto and ducking them alot.. June 1986 Princes Trust concert it sounds like Elton could had polyps as early as then as he sounded a tad rough before it gradually got worse on the American leg of the Ice On Fire tour until it properly gave up on the Tour De Force tour. Such a shame it changed so much in 1986 before it changed forever 1987.

  • @e-boy2252
    @e-boy22529 күн бұрын

    His voice sounded so fabulous in the 90s when he relearned how to sing with his new voice

  • @julieannemichelle
    @julieannemichelle Жыл бұрын

    Very good observation!!!

  • @wolfysboy
    @wolfysboy7 ай бұрын

    great video mate

  • @thestorysongsnl9397
    @thestorysongsnl93972 жыл бұрын

    I love the way you do this video only there is one thing reg strikes back is from 1988 not 1987 ;)

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair to myself, it was partially recorded in 1987! ;) And thank you, I’m so glad you liked it!

  • @thestorysongsnl9397

    @thestorysongsnl9397

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradylove9825 thats true :)

  • @anitahardesty2163
    @anitahardesty2163 Жыл бұрын

    Regardless of the surgery. Elton john is a great singer and performer. I think his voice sounds great after surgery. It sounds better! He's a legend! I feel his voice got deeper as he got older to. I had no idea pot effects someone's vocal chords. You are right the surgery helped his voice! Great video! Thank you!!

  • @jacksimmons9180
    @jacksimmons9180 Жыл бұрын

    Can you explain the removal of falsettos post 1989? Like why does he not perform the magazine note in Bennie and the jets starting from 97 until now?

  • @Farrah300
    @Farrah3002 жыл бұрын

    Although his voice isn't the same as it once was, he is still one heck of an entertainer. LOVE HIM TO BITS!!

  • @MaxThrills

    @MaxThrills

    2 жыл бұрын

    But for 75 he still sounds pretty good! He can sing songs that don’t have high notes very well still! Look up “Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me live 2022” and you might be impressed! :)

  • @chrisw9643
    @chrisw9643 Жыл бұрын

    He always sounds amazing to me

  • @AVL64
    @AVL642 жыл бұрын

    I’m a very casual Elton John fan and I had a misunderstanding that the vocal change that people were referring to when talking about his vocal surgery is his voice transformation that I learned from the video actually happened way back in 1979 and probably even earlier. If you listen to the studio versions of Elton John’s earliest songs like Tiny Dancer and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, you can hear that Elton John used to have a much brighter, lighter, and more androgynous sounding voice. He kinda sounded like a female contralto and reminded me of singers like James Blunt. In contrast, when he recorded I’m Still Standing and Sorry Seems To Be, he already sounded pretty husky to me and almost like a damn baritone with some falsetto notes here and there. I was surprised to learn that he actually started to sound better live during that period and that isn’t generally seen as a period of vocal decline for Elton. It feels like he underwent the biggest change in his vocal timbre in the 70s actually. I wonder what happened to “androgynous Elton” from the early 70s. Did he just age out of his voice? Did he decide to adjust his voice away from that timbre to have more consistent performances live? Did his drug use contribute to that voice change? I’d be curious to know. I kinda felt that particular vocal transformation was the elephant in the room for me regarding this video.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey there! Thanks a ton for watching and for your comment. What you’re discussing was actually very briefly addressed in the video towards the beginning in the first few minutes. I mentioned Elton’s 70s vocals. The cause of the change you notice is due to the work that he did with Thom Bell in 1977. While working with him in the studio Thom apparently gave him some help with vocal technique and how to sing more healthy which gave his voice that strength, that smoother and more consistent voice, and far improved vocal stamina in concert. That’s the main reason attributed to that change you notice :)

  • @GuerrillaGuitar

    @GuerrillaGuitar

    Жыл бұрын

    Same exact thing that happened to Bowie, maybe they matured later and showes their real tessitura (Baritone) later in life or maybe it was their huge smoking.

  • @infernow2125
    @infernow21256 ай бұрын

    I love how expressive ur face is :D

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank ya!

  • @customersupport9158
    @customersupport9158 Жыл бұрын

    deper yes...but still sounds amazing to this day

  • @sbreiden2370
    @sbreiden2370Ай бұрын

    Back on the Elton John album, there were some different sounding vocals. Compare Your Song with Border Song. I read recently, possibly in Bernie Taupin’s book, that Elton used to try to sound like Mick Jagger in the early days. And one I really can’t explain is how his voice sounds on “Give Me the Love” from 21 at 33. I don’t believe I ever heard him song that again.

  • @sbreiden2370

    @sbreiden2370

    Ай бұрын

    Should read “ sing like that again.”

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker635 ай бұрын

    Unpopular opinion here but, in many ways I actually PREFER Eltons post surgery voice. Yeah ok, he doesn't hit high notes the same, but it's so much deeper, richer and more muscular sounding, and really suited the style of material he was moving towards in the late 80s and 90s. Though I often wonder just how many great singers have physically harmed their voices by smoking... Guys can get away with that deepening to some extent, but it affects women even more dramatically. I just can't imagine being a professional singer and being able to justify smoking (weed or otherwise). Add in alcohol and drug use (seemingly staples of the pop star /rock star lifestyle) and you have a recipe for guaranteed physical and emotional breakdown. Elton is one of the "lucky" ones in that he not only survived that difficult period, but enjoyed a second summer of his career afterwards. Many others are not so fortunate.

  • @satyabratamishra4670

    @satyabratamishra4670

    3 ай бұрын

    i totally agree elton's post surgery voice very slept on he gets more creative with phrasing and his tone sounds much richer and more unique especially in the 90s and early 2000s. i dont really like the 70s voice i have no idea why people are obsessed with it. its very generic. his tone in the 90s cannot be replicated and he could still hit solid high notes in chest voice and has used his falsetto as recently as 2023 hitting c5s in levon. having the ability to hit high notes in falsetto doesnt really mean he was a better singer

  • @DavidLopez-nr7wp
    @DavidLopez-nr7wp2 жыл бұрын

    Any update on the upcoming documentary?

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s gonna be a while. I’ve only recently gotten to a point where I can take steps back and start rethinking the project and how I’m gonna make it work. It’s going to be a lot of work and a tiring process. The documentary may end up taking the form of a video sort of like this one. It’ll be easier to achieve and a bit less stressful. Plus it could possibly come out sooner. It’ll still be extremely in depth though!

  • @customersupport9158
    @customersupport9158 Жыл бұрын

    very good video

  • @waiter1971
    @waiter19712 жыл бұрын

    this is great.

  • @threeleggedman
    @threeleggedman6 ай бұрын

    I've been loving Elton's voice since I was 12 in 1975. I think his voice changed on each album, it was never exactly the same. Bob Dylan did the same thing but to the extreme. Almost a different singer from album to album.

  • @clumsystiggy
    @clumsystiggy Жыл бұрын

    ngl discerning which 1980s album is pre- and post-surgery was very easy for me because i already knew japanese hands was from '87

  • @vampireintheopera8931
    @vampireintheopera89312 жыл бұрын

    10:17 Brady: Up to 40 spliffs a day! Me: Have no idea what does it mean Brady: That’s excessive Me: Uh oh I seen now, thx

  • @preesi1403
    @preesi14032 жыл бұрын

    20:32 Why you gotta do EJ like that with that PIC??? LOL

  • @MaxThrills
    @MaxThrills2 жыл бұрын

    But for 75 he still sounds really good! He can sing songs that don’t have high notes very well still! Look up “Don’t Let The Sun Go Down On Me live 2022” and you might be impressed! :)

  • @Alexfoxxrox
    @Alexfoxxrox Жыл бұрын

    Thats soooo much weed in a day for not having filtration especially. I can sing his falsetto songs like yellow brick road, tiny dancer and so on and was worried about having vocal issues from smoking weed and other particles in the air but i only have literally a single puff here and there not 40 friggin joints a day holy fck. Also was feeling sad after watching his australia 1986 songs which i felt were like a funeral for his vocal chords, your video made me feel better, thanks seriously.

  • @jerryyeaaah15
    @jerryyeaaah1511 ай бұрын

    even in 74 msg show he removed alot of the falsetto in Rocket man

  • @Cartier_specialist
    @Cartier_specialist2 ай бұрын

    Elton John is the only musician I saw multiple times live in concert. I'd have to dig out my ticket stubs but I think I saw him 4 times. I don't remember what years but they were probably all prior to the vocal surgery. It's not that his voice changed so much as his style went from more of a rock and roll type singer to a more pop rock style singer. I like his really early albums best i.e. Tumbleweed Connection, Goodbye Yellowbrick Road, Empty Sky, Blue Moves, etc, etc.

  • @jaggass
    @jaggass2 жыл бұрын

    He completely lost his voice on the final show at MSG 14-9-86 after 3 nights on the trot there.

  • @mrtelevision
    @mrtelevision11 ай бұрын

    Reg Strikes back was released in 1988, not 1987

  • @darren4635
    @darren46352 жыл бұрын

    what song is at 2:43??

  • @DJSantiagosworld

    @DJSantiagosworld

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sixty Years On

  • @user-vn8lj7ck3j
    @user-vn8lj7ck3jАй бұрын

    The surgery in 1987 did nothing to impact his falsetto. His voice had already changed dramatically over the prior years. All one needs to do is pick two hit albums, Captain Fantastic (1975) and Two Low (1983) and the drastic change in range is already apparent.

  • @paulrodriguez8852
    @paulrodriguez8852 Жыл бұрын

    I think the pot smoking was part of it? Most likely drinking, which does effect your voice. In Australia 1986 he really blew it out. I think after words he probably was told by his doctor not to stress his voice. That's why he wasn't trying to use his falsetto. He did get it back when he recorded Sleeping with the past.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    Жыл бұрын

    I addressed that aspect of things in the video, did you watch it in full? Drinking likely didn’t help but it wasn’t the major factor otherwise his voice would’ve been shot years prior. And I included his doctors diagnosis in the video as well. Also he took more than a year off from touring which gave his voice ample time to heal after the surgery so he’d be healthy when returning. He never fully lost the falsetto, it just became a bit weaker and harder to control. There were some comparisons of that in the video as well. Thank you for your comment! :)

  • @paulrodriguez8852

    @paulrodriguez8852

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bradylove9825 Oh yeah! I did watch the whole video. I agree with you that the surgery wasn't the problem. I don't think his falsetto wouldn't have come back at all. The only thing is that having listened to him for years. I was shocked when I heard the 1986 Australia CD. I thought he just had a cold or the flu.

  • @Eltonstuffandthat
    @Eltonstuffandthat Жыл бұрын

    But his voice and his faces changed so mutch but I still love him and to be honest I prefer his deeper voice

  • @madeinedmundston
    @madeinedmundston6 ай бұрын

    Elton Never said this broke his voice. Fan where whining because he lost his falsetto. Post 87 EJ have WAY MORE color to his voice.Always dreamed to have a voice like that.

  • @satyabratamishra4670

    @satyabratamishra4670

    4 ай бұрын

    it is a much harder voice to replicate for anyone he really did get a truly unique rich sounding voice after 1987. and i think that vocal change is the reason why i stay with him because he sounds different every year and he rearranges and reinvents the song every year and i cant think of any other artist who puts that much effort into their live performances and tours so much that he would literally change his band or the sound of his band so frequently. plus he got more creative. thats why i only listen to post surgery live performances.

  • @jgh548
    @jgh5482 жыл бұрын

    Great work! I think the main cause of the deepening and coarseness of his voice is the drug use and excessive touring.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! :) So I had an entire essay regarding the second part of your comment until I realized you may have been talking about the years after the surgery, is that correct?

  • @jgh548

    @jgh548

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradylove9825 Both, in fact! The period post 2000 is an interesting topic in itself.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jgh548 Ah I see! And yes someone suggested a part two talking about 1989-on…maybe! Now in regards to the excessive touring and drug use in pre surgery times: Yyou gotta remember this man had been extensively touring loooong before this, without his voice ever changing. What helps is he had excellent vocal technique, and apparently the cocaine didn’t have any negative effect on his voice-sounds foolish to say, but looking at the evidence, all the years he was doing it and touring his voice only got better and better and stronger, so we cannot factor cocaine into the equation. And the man had vocal stamina that even the most well trained opera singer would be envious of. He didn’t lose his voice for nearly 7 years straight starting from 1979, and only cancelled if he got legitimately sick like the flu. Case in point, he came down with the flu at Madison Square Garden in 1984, had to cancel a show, but came back the next day and despite still feeling ill he sang the entire show without issue and without really removing any high notes. I mean, good God the man did 16 NIGHTS STRAIGHT, no breaks, at the Hammersmith Odeon in December 1982 without his voice ever coming close to losing strength. The man had super human vocal cords. You must also remember he returned to touring in 1985 after an entire year off of live performances, and when he returned for the Nov. 1985-Jan. 1986 leg of the tour he did a more reasonable schedule and, again, no vocal issues from start to finish. He never had vocal consistency issues after the work he did on his voice in 1977 that I mentioned he had done with Thom Bell. As I mentioned before, from 1979-January 1986 he never really had a bad night. So why, after only two concerts on March 1 and 2 of 1986 and a day off, did he come back and all of a sudden, for the first time in 7 years, have his first ever night where his falsetto was impacted? Well seeing as how this lines up with the start of marijuana being used during live performances, and the doctor telling him what happened was because of the pot smoking, well then we have our answer! It’s understandable why folks would think over touring and the coke factored in as it seems an obvious answer, but do a deep dive into the wealth of recordings from that 1979-Jan 1986 period and it paints a very different picture!

  • @jgh548

    @jgh548

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradylove9825 Fascinating and well researched. Yes, it's saddening to think that his voice would probably still have its full range and something of that gorgeous pure tone today if he'd kept away from the pot. It's interesting how his tone continued to decline post surgery, getting deeper first, then raspy and eventually becoming quite harsh and unpleasant, with the top end of the range becoming more and more constrained. Interestingly, it seems to have improved again since the lockdown forced a break on him and the rasp has disappeared.

  • @IVTLTD

    @IVTLTD

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was at the MSG show that Elton canceled in 1984 and actually had backstage passes. I remember Ron Delsener, his promoter, in a bad mood and finally telling everyone we had to leave. I was at the small little buffet they had and recall being nervous because Delsener was known to get angry when things were not going well. I was talking with other guests and the word, before we even knew of the cancellation, was that Elton was feeling awful after a night of partying (lots of coke and liquor) and he was sick in his dressing room. That explained why the promoter was furious, since he is the one who loses the money. A little while later, while the entire packed house was waiting for the show to start, Ron Delsener came on stage and announced that the show was canceled due to Elton having the flu or stomach ailment (I forget exactly). I remember the groans of the crowd. Miraculously, he was back the next nite lol! Quick flu recovery

  • @shadicTPZ
    @shadicTPZ Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, while there are some songs and overall performances are good or great with that lower voice (also because they're mostly in the same key), I prefer the falsettos he did prior to the surgery. But hey, if he's doing well with this lower voice, then I'm ok with it!

  • @MaxThrills
    @MaxThrills2 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion his best concerts were in 1994!

  • @galenspikesmusic
    @galenspikesmusic7 ай бұрын

    nice

  • @akimpotapov
    @akimpotapov Жыл бұрын

    15:58 song name, pls?

  • @GregsynthWizard

    @GregsynthWizard

    Жыл бұрын

    Philadelphia Freedom

  • @akimpotapov

    @akimpotapov

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GregsynthWizard i can't find this moment in song

  • @GregsynthWizard

    @GregsynthWizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@akimpotapov It's the last chorus ("Shine the light")

  • @gregb8565
    @gregb8565 Жыл бұрын

    Vocal surgery was so primitive in those days like McCoy said in Star Trek when going back to our time ‘the blood letters’!! Imho this is a bit of hyperbole - never had a bad night or Bad note doesn’t happen for anyone - My own experience .. That said , personal care or technique shown by loss of falsetto is one indication for me that I was singing wrong - Staying in vocal shape and health seems primary - Paul rodgers is a prime example - Also singing every song is an athletic feat of voice and also for me one night or two of no monitors in those days (70’s 80’s) woukd clip your voice if yiu are

  • @Bimhermodrsenblom
    @Bimhermodrsenblom2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, a Marcos cameo on here hahaha.

  • @SteelGnat
    @SteelGnat2 ай бұрын

    To people who think that wltob john singing has gotten worse since then think the lion king soundtrack

  • @preesi1403
    @preesi14032 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if it was the Bulimia?

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nah it was definitely primarily the pot smoking, and that’s not just my saying it-it was confirmed by the doctor that performed his throat surgery. The video has a good deal of analysis into some evidence behind it from the recordings too. (Not trying to be rude btw! Nor saying are you outright wrong as surely the bulimia wouldn’t have helped really. Just trying to make sure the record is set straight as there’s still a lot of misconception out there! 🙂)

  • @preesi1403

    @preesi1403

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bradylove9825 well, one of EJs greatest loves is/was ice cream.. Stomach acid cant be good for the throat. I know this sounds presumptuous but I have been a fan since 72, so unfortunately I have all this random info in my head. Rocketman even shows him ordering every flavor of Ice Cream in the restaurant.

  • @KlabauterManiac
    @KlabauterManiac2 жыл бұрын

    Whatever may be the case, it looks like smoking 40 sigs a day and trying to sing with an already damaged voice is.. bad for your voice.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Make that 40 joints haha! Yes smoking is awful

  • @sarahmiller4069
    @sarahmiller4069 Жыл бұрын

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  • @jdenino6022
    @jdenino60223 ай бұрын

    Here is Elton John singing Philadelphia Freedom on the Jay Leno show in 1993 and he gave a very good performance. He seems to have almost hit that high note that you highlighted in your video. (Not sure bc I am not a singer or a musician) but this performance is great! kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqiKlracYKnUcbA.htmlsi=o09M86aX5SWZP2yy&t=205

  • @Darin_Tomlinson

    @Darin_Tomlinson

    3 ай бұрын

    Its a really great performance but he still noticabley isn't using falsettos in certain spots and the ending, although he does use his falsetto, is no where near as high as the original version. Still a great performance though, not bashing it in any way.

  • @Bruh1986.
    @Bruh1986. Жыл бұрын

    you should have compared since god invented girls with shoot down the moon

  • @infernow2125
    @infernow2125 Жыл бұрын

    Comparing Elton John to someone like Freddie Mercury, while Elton doesn't have the amazing timbre gifted to Freddie at birth, Elton is definetly a better/more consistent vocalist

  • @angelaaniol7576
    @angelaaniol75762 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, he doesn't sing falsetto now. If you listen to him sing Rocketman now he doesn't go up on the word Rocketman. Said in his book Me the surgery took away his falsetto. But I love his voice either way.

  • @eliassandgren3132

    @eliassandgren3132

    2 жыл бұрын

    He does, he does though

  • @angelaaniol7576

    @angelaaniol7576

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eliassandgren3132 I haven't heard true falsetto in years. I have seen him in concert many times and watched many videos of him singing over the years. He doesn't go high on Rocket man or Tiny Dancer.

  • @eliassandgren3132

    @eliassandgren3132

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@angelaaniol7576 lol listen again then. No u are correct he hasn’t been singing the studio version falsettos live in the songs you mentioned since the 80’s/90’s, but there are literally loads of examples if you know where to listen.

  • @thomasglass7223

    @thomasglass7223

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@eliassandgren3132 he doesn’t have any falsetto left.

  • @gaminglegend

    @gaminglegend

    2 жыл бұрын

    He hit the falsetto in Bennie and the Jets in New Orleans 1997 and tried to hit falsetto in Goodbye Yellow Brick Road in Hyde Park 2016

  • @CaydenWilsonMusic
    @CaydenWilsonMusic2 жыл бұрын

    5:30 Brady I hate that why did you include that horrid phrasing!!!!

  • @xxcelr8rs
    @xxcelr8rs11 ай бұрын

    Try singing after doing a couple lines. The pot is rough I can't imagine a paxk of 20 joints a day!

  • @Cr16604
    @Cr166045 ай бұрын

    Has anyone every considered that Cocaine did a lot of damage to his voice. Not the cocaine itself, but performing all those years with all the chemical adrenaline making him feel invincible. No struggle to hit that high note of the falsetto. In his mind he was singing like has 20 years old. In a way he was but he wasn’t realizing the damage it was doing to his voice. And the touring sendure is relentless. When they’re yong, it’s new and it’s all a big party. it. Bands in their mid to late 30’s get on stage, put on their party face, and the next day are probably like bloody hell, not this again tonight. They they get a few days off and it’s the same deal again. A bands first few Big tours are probably fun. After that it’s just work that pays a lot.

  • @fimins_guitar
    @fimins_guitar6 ай бұрын

    Говорите медленней, не все понимают быстрый английский😊.

  • @ACOfficialmusicpage
    @ACOfficialmusicpage10 ай бұрын

    someone gotta say it, cocaine didnt help either :P

  • @jamesb8305
    @jamesb83052 жыл бұрын

    ...and I thought it was due to all the coke and booze he consumed.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah surprisingly it had very little…if anything at all really…to do with it

  • @jonathansavickas7348
    @jonathansavickas7348 Жыл бұрын

    Of course, the surgery was a success because if it wasn't, he would never have been able to sing again.

  • @user-zm9gj1pc7i
    @user-zm9gj1pc7i2 жыл бұрын

    Is this really a controversial topic? He smoked weed, snorted cocaine like a fiend and drank like a fish. He was getting older. The body breaks down. May have been drunk.

  • @bradylove9825

    @bradylove9825

    2 жыл бұрын

    Among some folks! But not so much controversial as it is folks having rather strong stances and opinions on the matter that are based in some of these misunderstandings. Also: Yes it’s true about his substance use-but the only one of those things that factored into his voice becoming damaged and needing surgery was the weed. He’d been using cocaine since 1973 at the earliest and across the years until 1986 his voice just got stronger and stronger until the weed came in the picture and caused all of that to happen in the span of a few months.

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