As a mini farmer I use a lot of organic techniques in order to preserve the soil and to try and make the farm more efficient. Like having chickens roam freely to eat the bugs and collecting their poop for my hot compost pile.

@DukeGMOLOL

3 жыл бұрын

What do you do about weeds?

@bluemooninthedaylight8073

2 жыл бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL Pull them?

@Acen0ni

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is scaling

@sufiyafarooqui4038

2 жыл бұрын

m

@drewpamon

2 жыл бұрын

@@DukeGMOLOL flame weeder

Grocery stores should really be divided into two sections: "Organic" and "Things I can Afford" 🥕

@FreeHempNow

5 жыл бұрын

Begging for money at the end, lol, jeeez the ads are not enough...greedy

@dragonswampanimations5558

5 жыл бұрын

@@FreeHempNow you do know that making videos on KZread doesn't get u a lot of money right? Unless you get a crap ton of views, its not a lot. Especially because making productions like this take time and research.

@btouw8558

5 жыл бұрын

Two

@prdamico

5 жыл бұрын

google why it is more expensive.. do some research.. large aggro farms and monsanto control most crop seeds, and mass produce for speed and quantity to maximize profits, but research why organic is so expensive, it is because of giant corporations like monsanto in bed with our government monopolizing farming that creates stupid laws for people growing natural foods, they need special tests for "contamentents", because chemicals were not used, lot of seeds have patents and are sold to small family farmsvat increased prices........in the end, if more people bought organic, they would listen to the lost revenue, thats all they care about --- profit - at all costs - the shareholders demand a good monthly check !!!!!!

@albertguo868

5 жыл бұрын

yea no sir that is not how the food system works

I always buy 'chemical free' food. I survive on dark matter.

@JanitaShowaars

4 жыл бұрын

Ok chemist

@benjhamincasadiego5383

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent Video! Excuse me for the intrusion, I would love your opinion. Have you thought about - Parlandealey Impetigo Goodbye Process (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now)? It is a smashing one off product for learning how to grow your own organic vegetables using hydroponics without the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got astronomical results with it.

@storstrright8381

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@TBomb15

3 жыл бұрын

dark matter? plebeian, condensed space time is the only real food

@hasanmuhammad6651

3 жыл бұрын

@@TBomb15 20 hours ago?

As a produce grower for a local farmers market, we don't grow or market organic products. We do our best to use insecticides responsibly and as few times as possible through out the growing season. We would not be able to get a high yeilding crop or a very high quality crop from our gardens. Also, I always like to keep in mind that GMO could be something as simple as cross pollination, it's not always splicing genes. Even in that case it is typically to give a plant resistance to disease or to increase yield. Fancy lables on our food increase the price of things that raised conventionally, would be just as safe.

@miriam7872

5 жыл бұрын

I'm happy to hear that. I think people think way too black and white, as usual. Organic farmers aren't angels and some people make it seem like anything that's not "organic" is deadly-pesticide-infused garbage that will mutate your children or something. I think GMO's can be done wrong as well as very right, and I wish the US (and also the EU, on the other extreme) would differentiate and regulate better. I also think governments should subsidize farming practices that make sense. Because they will ultimately pay the price of dead bees, multiresistant bacteria, no longer suitable crops thanks to changing climates.. the list goes on and on.

@thomasbecker8824

5 жыл бұрын

@@miriam7872 I strongly agree. I think that subsidies would not only help current farms but would also give other people the opportunity to start their own. The way my family thinks about it, we can either pay a little bit extra in taxes and for the subsidies and continue to enjoy the lowest food prices in the world, or pay the farmers the actual worth of their products wether it be produce or agronomic crops because of that was the case, we would be paying a lot more for food products than we do now. That's one reason so many dairy farms are going out of business, people just aren't buying the amount of dairy products they use to and prices of milk are at an all time low. That same principle applies to other agricultural products as well.

@johnkesich8696

5 жыл бұрын

> Thomas Becker "GMO could be something as simple as cross pollination" Wrong. Selective breeding is not GMO. Can you really be that ignorant or are you trying to confuse those who are?

@thomasbecker8824

5 жыл бұрын

@@johnkesich8696 what does GMO stand for, Genetically Modified Organism. Cross pollination is a slower more natural process to get desirable genes in livestock or crops. The Organism's genetics are then "modified". Sorry this was coming across as ignorant or offensive to you. Not all GMOs are physically taking a gene from one specimen and putting it into another. Hope this was helpful. God bless!

@danielmiller6573

5 жыл бұрын

Cross pollination is called hybridizing and is not the definition of a GMO, which is the introduction of dna from another species.

This is very informative! Thank you SciShow for many arguments pro and contra organic foods - much appreciated to help me understand its usefulness and value (or the opposite).

Thanks for all being concise, and having good sources! This clears up a lot of stuff.

@DrMAHMMuseumAtHomeinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Right🌼🌺🌸 it is helpful.

I wish you had talked about organic vs conventional meat more -- the lack of growth hormones and antibiotics in organic meat seems like it would be an important health benefit. Maybe another video?

@itsohaya4096

11 ай бұрын

Now there's lab grown meat too! Which adds an ethicality layer now - we no longer need to kill animals at all

I think it's important to make it clear that in America the USDA ONLY certifies food. So anything that says it's organic and is not food (beauty products are a good example) is probably lying

@sarahcb3142

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that. I didn't know!

@murraybritton6729

5 жыл бұрын

The USDA certifies animal based foods but it’s the FDA that certifies most vegetables. Just fyi

@izurielpalanayukei5140

5 жыл бұрын

Truuuue. I saw a sign on a salon for "Organic Relaxers & Brazilian Blowouts." I think I still have a picture of me flipping the place off.

@naomilovenpeace

5 жыл бұрын

@@murraybritton6729 you're right lol I always confuse those 2 because my dad works for the USDA

@GrocMax

3 жыл бұрын

Brookshire's grocery chain, until recently, on the aisle directory signs (up above the aisles,) used to proudly proclaim this aisle to have 'organic water'. Not kidding. I ALWAYS assumed that was water, with the poop not filtered out.

As an agricultural engineer, I really appreciate videos like this. More sustainable agriculture (i.e. producing more food with fewer inputs and less environmental damage) is critical for the health of the human population, but terms like organic and natural often have more marketing behind them than science. Consumers associate organic with all that is good, and marketers take full advantage of that. Even products that are not organic certified take advantage of this association by using terms that sound like they mean the same thing as organic (i.e. natural, pure, etc) or by using specific packaging (green containers, muted colors, pictures of leaves or idyllic farms, etc). If you choose to spend the extra money on organic products, please do yourself a favor and look at the science rather than the marketing campaigns.

@karronpitman9613

4 жыл бұрын

Kirsten Paff yes

@robertmirmow6307

2 жыл бұрын

you nailed it!

Just a thought, what if there was some sort of organized worm composting, where industrial and home organic wastes are managed in a way that they can be turned into rich soil back again, instead of anaerobically decomposing in a landfill? Would that be enough fertilizer? I just found out about worm composting and seeing how much plant and animal matter goes to the trash I think the amounts needed to grow crops could be easily met with good waste management.

@aidenpowell6093

4 жыл бұрын

You are bang on the money. I have several bathtubs full of worms and save about 20kgs a week from landfill by going through grocery shop bins. A bathtub can make 20 liters of organic fertiliser a day. The guys ignorant. i'd also day say he knows nothing about soil biology and what conventional farming is doing to it. I'm trying to educate people on how to set up worm farms. Wish i had the following this guy has. 6 million people composting would save a lot of landfill and emission.

I really loved this episode! So helpful in helping me to make more informed decisions about the foods I eat. :) Thank you so much!

@DrMAHMMuseumAtHomeinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

I agree😍👍💚🧡

Thank you so much SciShow for providing such a great video to link to when someone brings up organic food.

hey guys. thanks for making this video. it's a question i've asked many a time when standing in the supermarket. but i have another question, could you tell us about the meaning of "free range" and "grass fed"? i'd love to be able to sift through the bunk when it comes to buying food, thanks

When Hank talked about “grape man” I literally paused the video, stopped doing the dishes I was in the middle of, and ran up to my sister to make her watch it so we could laugh about it together. 😂

This was a really great episode. Thank you PATREONS for asking these really great questions. As a student Registered Nurse, this really helps me help other people.

I think that GMO's are like rapidly evolved food. So why does it have a bad reputation?

@lucasbeck1391

5 жыл бұрын

Because people think any chemicals added by humans will give you cancer or some other disease

@ethanrey98

5 жыл бұрын

@@lucasbeck1391 what chemicals?

@justanotherguywithamoustac8893

5 жыл бұрын

@@ethanrey98 Exactly, there isn't any

@lucasbeck1391

5 жыл бұрын

@@ethanrey98 anything

@ethanrey98

5 жыл бұрын

@@lucasbeck1391 what chemicals specifically?

This is the most even-handed breakdown of one of the most controversial issues in science I could imagine. Thank you so much for it

Could you make a video about permaculture. I've heard it's very effective and good for the soil. I'd love to know more.

Are those prepackaged salad mixes labeled “prewashed” really safe to eat/use straight out or does it still need another thorough rinse?

Thank your for the thorough overview.

Yes, what they sell in most of the groceries as "organic foods" are just marketing techniques. Real organic food is what you grow in your garden. It takes more time, more resources and you need to do it carefully. But it is like a heaven. The smell and the taste of tomatoes and peppers in my grandmother's garden is worth more than every other food produced by companies. I guess it is the requirements of the ever evolving world but it makes me sad the we are forgetting about the beauties and the joys world offer us. Everthing now is mass produced without much care and we are becoming robots of the future. Mass produced clothes of modern popular culture, mass produced foods of rich companies, long work hours. I feel like we became a part in a capitalist system. Like another brick in the wall. I think the only thing that will chance this system is going to be the next world war. So sad.

@UserName-ii1ce

3 жыл бұрын

If you ask me it's better than working 16 hours a day so I can survive in the woods. That being said the easiest way to live is to buy into the system just enough to get out of it what you need and contribute to it what you can. Don't try and keep up with the Joneses, don't shop on Amazon. Avoid debt

@marahbrooke

2 жыл бұрын

@@treaf7453 they are a monopoly, bad for the environment, treat workers poorly, target and kill small businesses, destroy millions of extra products weekly instead of donating them to charity & are all around a horribly toxic company. Research them if you want to learn more

@matthornton44

Жыл бұрын

You need so many acres around you that are spray free to claim that your produce is organic. Sprays and seeds drift.

"Diarrhea in Space" should be a horror movie.

Informative....Thanks for Sharing

Thank you for this video!

I really like the your contribution according to this topic! :) But something which is missing here is if it has a big effect on animal farming. Could you do a separate video about organic and animal farming according to beef, chicken, pork production? :)

@somecuriosities

5 жыл бұрын

Would really like to see this.

@saal0

5 жыл бұрын

this is also the main reason I eat organic meat. Makes me feel less bad knowing the animal had a pretty decent life

@Ikajo

5 жыл бұрын

I buy exclusively organic milk because the cows have better lives.

@homeworkbreak4237

5 жыл бұрын

You may find this website useful- www.cornucopia.org It has a scoreboard for different brands of eggs, milk, and yoghurt treat the animals.

It seems to me that because of a mix of what's available and what a supermarket is willing to carry there are certain foods that are more or less consistently better tasting from the organic section as compared to its non-organic counterpart, green onions, tomatoes, garlic, just to name a few. The difference in taste is huge. The quality of tast in cooking is such that I can use a LOT less of the organic garlic than I would use of regular garlic. You're get it garlic that I've been able to find is Floral and Rich slightly sweet and believe it or not you can actually bite into it because it locks the acidity and bitterness of non-organic garlic. And I could go on about other vegetables, but I think a lot of it is just the way the market selects for availability. In the end though I have to challenge your assertion that you shouldn't choose organic for taste because if one is using less material to accomplish the same thing true Organics then one is having less of an impact on the environment.

Simply due to my grocery store only having organic bananas and onions left when I got there, I totally have found that both of them have a much greater shelf life after I get them home

When rotating crops there’s a period of time when the land is left to nature and it grows weedy. The weeds can be harvested & used to make a nutritious plant pulp tea to fertilize crops without manure. The plant pulp can then be added to a compost heap to make vermicompost. There are many options for fertilizing crops that don’t require chemical fertilizers. Rain water for instance can help naturally adjust the ph in soil for crops that grow best in low ph soil, as rain water tends to be acidic (even down to 4.5 ph). It also contains a lot of small particulates that can enrich the soil. Run off from crops nourished with manure can be collected & reused as a liquid fertilizer to keep the nutrients in the soil. A natural pond also contains a lot of plant & animal waste that can be collected to fertilize crops or crops can be grown in floating rafts on top of the pond for greater ease of use. In certain places they irrigate rice fields by diverting water from natural sources & then raise fish for food/sales in with the rice. Harvesting/growing native plants for food is another way we can use the natural conditions they thrive in to reduce our need for intervention when farming food crops. There’s modern organic farming & then there’s a very different kind of farming which has been done for generations by family owned farms & farmers.

Thank you SciShow! I continue to appreciate your thoughtfully written content! ^_^

I find some specific food items taste better organic, such as fresh fruits. I always thought it was because gmo foods might be selected to grow bigger or faster, so lose some flavor density, but maybe it's just because the irradiated stuff is slightly older. But if it's not going to be eaten raw, I usually won't buy organic because you're adding spices and breaking down the molecules anyway. Better to try to buy local than organic, I think.

@8:35 I know that they use gamma and x-rays for some things which is non-ionizing, and I thought ionizing was dangerous if consumed. Is that a mistake?

Very informative video you shared. Actually we grow few fruits And vegetables organically for our personal use & for our patients. Few things we buy from genuine localorganic growers .

So, once organic food allows the use of GMO's, sewage and ionizing radiation, it will become truly ecofriendly and healthy. Why not make a new standard called like "BOB" (Best of Both worlds) or something?

What powers do you think Grape Man would have?

@tiffyw92

5 жыл бұрын

The power to welch people out of a good deal at the groceries.

@BeCurieUs

5 жыл бұрын

He would have a lot of apeal

@hshogdar6226

5 жыл бұрын

Turn water into wine

@ThePenguin369

5 жыл бұрын

Whining

@GotPotatoes24

5 жыл бұрын

He's just Muscle Hank but purple.

I'm new to the channel and am watching the playlists (the Food one, in this case), so maybe it's later in the list and I'm not recognizing the content from the title, but I'd be curious to see a sort of 'update' for vids like this!

What about antibiotics and hormones as impacts on health benefits?

@hananpeled1379

5 жыл бұрын

"Supplements"

I prefer inorganic food myself, but I have never been able to find any. :-)

@kansascityshuffle8526

3 жыл бұрын

Ever hear of McDonald’s?

It will be nice to have a bit deeper dive on organic meat and diary.

I'm not afraid of either the pesticides or whether organic foods contain more healthy bits. I however am concerned with the added amount of hormones or hormone-like compounds like BPE. Is there any significant difference between organic and non organic variants?

I dunno, my family gets organic foods all he time, because for some reason where I get it they taste better and seem fresher.

@tylerherbst1217

2 жыл бұрын

Placbo

Unfortunately there's no way to know if you're really getting organic food.

@jt6170

3 жыл бұрын

Usda label.

@ronaldmcdonald8303

3 жыл бұрын

there is, it is the worst food you have ever tasted, THAT'S organic!

@thespiritualenergy9816

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldmcdonald8303 organic good af wym

@ronaldmcdonald8303

3 жыл бұрын

@@thespiritualenergy9816 ? what does af wym mean? If your having a go at me you should know that I used to go to a special needs college which only served "organic" food. Their food were the WORST food I have EVER had, by a LONG way. Their food were so bad that I once went for 5 days living off only tap water, yet all they could do was brag and boast! They were 100% recognised as an organic institution by the soil association and all that and their food made kept making me ill!

@thespiritualenergy9816

3 жыл бұрын

@@ronaldmcdonald8303 it wasnt good then , but in my opinion organic be hitting

What about hydroponically grown or grown with aquaponics? Does the efficiency match with GMO and non-organic through these two methods? What are all of the variables that would effect this?

Great Video

In a closed greenhouse do you still need pesticides? I mean, are there still bugs in those futuristic enclosed vertical farms that use hidroponics?

@dnnygray

5 жыл бұрын

Not nearly as many. Sometimes pests do get into the building but the building itself can be treated against pests instead of the produce. Hydroponically grown foods can be grown with far fewer pesticides.

@thomasbecker8824

5 жыл бұрын

We have a green house that we grow peppers and tomatoes in. We aren't an organic farm by any means but we try to do our best to use as little pesticides and fungicide as possible. In our high tunnel, basically a small green house, we typically don't spray. However, that doesn't mean it's pest free. We still have issues with things like climbing cut worm and tobacco hornworms on the tomatoes. So in those cases, we can only hand pick the caterpillars off for so long. Once they get out of hand we decide that it would be economicly feasible to spray. And there are "organic" pesticides, just not very effective ones. Organic doesn't mean pesticide free, just limited use.

@GregEwing

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. Just try and keep the aphids out! god dam aphids!

@manuelaguilartirado8674

5 жыл бұрын

Yes you do, I do also work in a green house, and yes there are several practices that must be made by the personnel, to avoid introducing insects in to the green houses, but this is a really important thing anyone outside the farming industry must know : NOTHING WORKS FOR SURE AND IN THE SAME WAY ALL THE TIME. We are talking about living beings plants and insects and climate and several humans working with you, everything has a way to go outside of what you plan. Leave the greenhouse door open for 3 minutes, flies are suddenly in, someone was wearing a yellow shirt, suddenly insects, we had a week of raining, the chances of fungi jumps to the roof. See, this is the reason why greenhouse productions and managers must run preventive applications of chemicals, a green house is a closed system with the best conditions for plants to grow, but several other organisms can take advantage of that, which makes things happen quicker. There are benefits with greenhouses but you have to be careful of more things. Also not all crops and all regions and countries are ideal for greenhouse production

@googleeatsdicks

5 жыл бұрын

Manuel Aguilar Tirado Out of curiosity, are there smokers allowed to work inside of the green house? I've read that TMV can be transmitted by the body and clothing of people who smoke. The virus can even survive the high temperatures of a burning cigarette.

I think it should be noted by Sci-Show that we face a problem with topsoil erosion and techniques we use exacerbate the problem.

thank you very much for your video.

Could you do a video on permaculture, food forests, and built up ecosystems and the like?

9:20 That's a MRE cheese packet. MREs are among the most healthy foods you can get your hands on, because they're packed with over 3000 kcal per meal, yet have the nutrient balance of an ornate salad. You can literally live off one a day if you're a civilian. It's also something to note that they're the opposite of organic.

@izurielpalanayukei5140

5 жыл бұрын

Oooh. I totally wanna try an MRE now. For science.

@DoYaLoveMeh89

5 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't say they are the most healthy things. They work for soldiers or highly active people, but chances are the average person couldn't fully utilize an MRE properly and it would for sure be an excess of calories. Not to mention sodium designed to replace lost sodium from sweating, etc.

@kirknay

5 жыл бұрын

@@DoYaLoveMeh89 you have a point there. I was just under the assumption that people would follow the advice of one a day for civilians, because a single one has all the nutrition you need in a day. Even if you had ramen to replace other meals, it would still be cheaper per day than McDonalds for a decent meal in my area (surplus stores sell at $60 for 12 MREs).

@jakewells4098

5 жыл бұрын

If you only eat mre's please make sure you're taking a laxative. They'll constipate you.

I refuse to pay for the meaningless, unscientific, and irrational “organic” marketing label. Come up with a meaningful “sustainable” label, or a “locally sourced” standard, I will take a look.

@WouldntULikeToKnow.

5 жыл бұрын

Yes! I try to buy local as much as possible, and not just for food, even locally made clothing.

@kefkapalazzo1

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you have to read the entire package

@Hromovlad1

4 жыл бұрын

The milk of grazing cows does taste better tho

@brianjensen5661

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hromovlad1 im lactose intolerant.

@Hromovlad1

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianjensen5661 well that sucks

Could you go over nutritional values on eggs with different farming practices? ("cage free" vs "free range" etc) I did a lot of my own poking through the literature a while back to decide where to best put my money between conventional supermarkets and farmer's markets and determined that eggs were the only real difference, nutritionally--whether the hens had access to bugs to eat or not. But I'd like to see a more systematic/objective look at it.

@thecelticforge

10 ай бұрын

You should look at the definitions of these terms and that may well answer your question. Cage free means that the chickens were raised in a barn. Free range means that the chickens can go out side the barn into an enclosure that is usually about 4 feet wide.

I LOVE these videos! Do you guys think you could do a video about Botox? How it works, how safe it is etc.?

Thanks for making this!!!! I think a lot of people have a misunderstanding of "how much healthier" eating organic is or isn't. Keep making your greatness SciShow! :-)

@DrMAHMMuseumAtHomeinMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Yes this video is good👍😍💚🧡💛🌼🌺🌸

I wish there were "organic" food with the GMO/other things that are genuinely helpful :P

Can you make a video on irradiation of food, how is it done ?

Is the no sewage sludge thing recent? Maybe I was being misinformed but I had heard of organic farming dangers due to use of sewage sludge, and manure that still had runoff, and the added possibility of pathogens, parasites and some weed seeds; compost and above all worm compost being the suggested but still underused options since pathogens are broken down, desired microfauna competes with the undesired and in the case of worm compost the mucus helped set the nutrients. Added on to that were the dangers of organic pesticides that I heard at some point DDT was included within that category (I will not be surprised if that is not true)

@elizaalmabuena

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, heavily doubt the DDT bit since I see a lot the word synthesized when looking it up, probably heard that from someone that latched onto biodegradable as organic... or maybe some places allow the use of DDT in organic farming due to it being biodegradable, not sure

For me, my choice to try and buy organic is a choice to try and vote with my pocket book against Koch Industries and against pollinator killing pesticides. I try to make up for the extra land my eating habits require by not eating animal products, which are very land and crop intensive. Higher yields are useless if we kill of pollinators with the few pesticides we do (over) use. In principle, I don't mind GMO's, but in practice US GMO's are tied up with predetory intellectual rights practices and the intentional killing of pollinators (as are seedless fruits, BTW, guess those 'Halos' aren't so angelic). So, in practice, I avoid all GMO's because companies don't exactly say, 'oh yeah, these GMO's kill bees and these ones allow us to sue farmers who don't buy our seeds but have a field near someone who does', and these ones increase the crops natural resistance to fungus'.

@karronpitman9613

4 жыл бұрын

Charles Bosse Amen!

I could take apart some of the things said on organics producing lower levels of greenhouse gases, but I really really can't be bothered

Thank you for making this video! It almost feels like a response to my complaint on the video you made about pesticides and fertilizers. I expect the major concern with using wastewater sludge is the hormones that get in that, so it would be interesting to know if those hormones get into the food. (I doubt they would, but proving that is what science is for!)

Irradiation is also extremely quick and extremely effective too and pretty efficient. It’s really just you pass it under a UV light for a short amount of time that kills the microbes making the food sterile (or as sterile as it can be considering the endospores commonly found with the clostridium bacteria)

As much as I love the Bros. Green, the SciShow dismissal of GMO and eco-conscious food practices always makes me grit my teeth. Don't get me wrong- I'm well aware that there's nothing inherently wrong with the splicing of genes, and most reasonable people _wash_ their produce before they eat it. A much bigger reason for the concern with GMOs and with the pesticides and fertilizers widely in use is concern for the ethics and practices of the companies using them. A concern for the environment. A concern for indigenous species. A concern for farmers' rights to their own crops and seeds. No, that fertilizer might not make my tomatoes any worse for _me_ , but what is it doing to the fish? The birds? The native plants? That corn might not be poisoning us, (it's not,) but is it destroying a farmer's ability to maintain his crop season to season? Is the company he is fairly obligated to buy his products from extorting him, by engineering plants that will not produce viable seed for the next season's crops? And if he chooses to buy from some other company, are they going to sue him within an inch of his livelihood because the neighboring farm's pollen was carried into his field by the wind, bees, and wildlife? And if his crop is accidentally cross-pollinated with a terminator crop, will he be damned to lose next year's crop despite his efforts to the contrary? These concerns are not trivial, and they do not deserve to be dismissed as "hippy nonsense" given the current decline of the world's ecosystems.

@StefenTower

4 жыл бұрын

All that, and the corn might be poisoning us (even if by tiny amounts). After all, most of the GMOs we're consuming are of the Roundup-Ready variety, and the glyphosate sprayed on the plants is a carcinogen.

@sophiahernandez963

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. This video was super superficial

@matthornton44

Жыл бұрын

This should be the top comment.

The money you just saved me at the grocery store is going to patreon

3:28 - In the crop rotation requirement, do they require that the stalks and remnants of the previous crop be churned into the soil? I am of the understanding that this is the major benefit of this type of farming.

@mintysingularity

5 жыл бұрын

No. Churning remnants of previous crops typically has a negative effect on successive crops because nutrients are required to decompose them and so poses a negative impact on soil. Crop rotation means planting something different each season, typically to insure nutrients are put back into the soil or, at the very least, successive crops don't remove the same nutrients, allowing the soil to replenish itself.

You made me laugh a lot! But besides that, great presentation! Well listed and explained points! Thank you very much! I was leaning towards only eating organic until I saw this video and other things!

I live in the Monterey County, California, which is largely considered the salad bowl of the world. That said, I have worked for many different companies that produce all types of fruits and vegetables. I remember the organic ones specifically, our foreman would bring out a stack of boxes labeled “organic” in between our packaging and say: “It’s time to charge the idiots their up charge.”

@TheREALExposingtheJoyofS-px3ri

4 жыл бұрын

So, basically you're saying everyone who buys organics are idiots?

@yamyam9998

4 жыл бұрын

:(

Can you guys do a video about the whole glyphosate debacle going on now with cereals and things?

@dadsfriendlyrobotcompany

5 жыл бұрын

christine the TLDR is this: poorly done scientific study says their bad, overwhelming majority of studies says they're safe, people only listen to the bad one and spend the fear mongering, policy makers and law bringers listen to the fear mongers, company trying to feed a growing population gets sued.

@IceMetalPunk

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, pretty much what Logan said. The LD50 of glyphosate is higher than that of table salt, and despite some questionable claims, there's no solid evidence that it's harmful in lower doses anyway.

@AstarOfDavid

5 жыл бұрын

Non-Organic & GMO food has poisonous insecticide (bug spray) called glyphosate sprayed on it. Which has recently been found to be cancer causing (For your own PROOF Search Google for "45 cereals glyphosate" and pick your favorite new site) Saying there is no difference between organic and non-organic for you health - is like saying there's no difference to your health if you were to add a drop of arsenic to your meal each day or not. Of COURSE there is a difference. People can be poisoned with a huge does of poison and "die" right away or they can be slowly fed poison and "die" slowly over weeks or months.... then there is the extremely slow way to "die" of poisoning which is to eat foods sprayed with tiny amounts of pesticides taking many many years to show signs of poison (such as cancer).... ORGANIC technically has NO man made chemicals or toxic pesticides sprayed on it - the way nature intended you to eat it. GMO's are worse than non-organic because the plant itself may have been engineered to grow pesticides inside the actual plant itself (which can't be washed off). The truth is if you look at our history there were no real cases of "Cancer" until around the mid-1900's. This just happens to co-inside with the same time farmers began using DDT & Arsenic (Monsanto) to spray on crops as a pesticide. In fact I watched a documentary recently where this woman who grew up on a family owned & operated farm. Claims that her family was healthy with no history of illnesses for generations, children born were normal and healthy. Yet soon after they started to spray their crops with chemicals around 1938 on her mother who had always been consuming the food right from the farm continued to eat the food that was now chemically treated (trusting that the FDA etc had passed these chemicals as OK to consume in small amounts) she became pregnant soon after adding these chemicals to the crops - and she suddenly a woman who had a great history of birthing healthy children began giving birth to children with birth defects and other health issues. To her it was blatantly obvious what caused the diseases in her family (the introduction of chemicals to the food she was consuming) She made a documentary called "What's With Wheat?" to share this message with the public (in an effort to warn them people to eat organic) At one time arsenic was considered safe to consume by the "Government" then they said it was safe to consume "DDT" yet time after time they found many years later these "safe approved by the Government" chemicals where in fact poisonous & carcinogenic. So Monsanto's current glyphosate (aka Round Up) is yet another "FDA approved" chemical that is just the same toxic crap with a new name. Many people have a hard time believing the a fellow human being would purposely disregard evidence and facts about the dangers and side effects of using chemicals on foods we consume.... yes sadly that is the truth. However there is a reason why.....because the people who approve these chemicals are in the business of making money. And to them these chemicals mean huge profits. And the health side effects are merely a bonus to them. Why do I say a bonus? Well as I said they are in the business of making money and if they know that purposely tricking the people into consuming foods with side effects causing poor health & disease etc they can also generate more income via the whole Medical Industry - having to attend Dr's offices and fill prescriptions (aka the pharmaceutical industry) which is a 60+ Billion dollar a year industry in itself. So to the rich elite playing games with your health and tricking you into thinking consuming pesticides is safe - is only trickery to use you as a "cash generating machine" they get rich of your lack of education. And of course they use official channels like the "FDA" to convince you it's ALL SO SAFE... these people care NOTHING about your health unless it was to make them billions of dollars like your illness does. I always use this analogy (and I wish someone would make a video about this) but imagine I had two apples freshly picked from nature (no chemicals or pesticides on those) I placed them on the table in front of you and then took a can of bug spray/killer (Raid or whatever) and I sprayed one apple until it was dripping wet - I then rinsed that apple off and placed it next to the un-touched apple (No matter how much you wash it - it's more than likely going to still have trace amounts of bug spray on it). Now if I was to ask you which apple would you eat - do you know what your answer would be? I sure do. But that is EXACTLY what the non-organic farmers do - you just don't see it happen so you "assume" it looks just like organic.... but in this case what you can't see can & most certainly will harm you. You might not see it right away (like the "FDA" studies but that's part of the problem they approve these chemicals before giving them long term 10-30 year testing trials they simply can't wait that long to see if there are long term side effects not when there is so much money to be made by releasing it early) You might think it's not that bad it's just a drop of bug spray how bad can it be? Well remember this - an ocean is made of an accumulation of many drops over time - just imagine what it does to continually drop poison into your body day after day year after year.... it slowly builds an ocean of toxins inside your body....and over time it will damage your DNA.... (then again so will drinking alcohol - and who approves of alcohol and sells it to you? THE GOVERNMENT (The same people who approve these harmful chemicals to use on non-organic food) - but that's a topic for another time) If you are interested in more information about this post or any other related topic - feel free to comment - I have a vast array of knowledge which I can share - including videos (for example David Suzuki produced his own documentary explaining the dangers of GMO foods - of course the commercially funded networks which he works for would not fund a documentary putting GMO foods down because most food product commercials you see on those stations contain GMO's or are funded by Monsanto in some way or another promoting GMO foods)

@GantaaOhime

5 жыл бұрын

Considering how many fruits contain arsenic naturally, bad example is bad. As for the rest, you seem to be a misinformation cow buddy. Might want to read the studies those news sites report on rather than the news article itself.

@xoCHRISTINEox1

5 жыл бұрын

This is why I’d love hank to make a video on it..so much conflicting info!

You know what, this is very much a relief for my lifestyle. I don't have the money to buy expensive fruits and vegetables, yet I rarely eat anything else than fruits and vegetables. I think the ideal situation is to buy in farmers' markets when living in a city, and growing your own or buying from nearby farmers when rural.

@arkvinin

Жыл бұрын

Organic is unsustainable. If the whole world switched to organic tomorrow, approximately 2 billion people would starve from the deficit in food production.

I, as a mum, have seen so many bits of advice saying to peel vegetables/fruit when giving them to my toddler (especially if non organic)... so washing it and giving her the extra nutrients and fibre in the skin is bad?

6:00 - “Kind of a waste”

I find organic products generally tend to taste better. Maybe it's having more time to grow and absorb nutrients without being rushed with growth factors or similar.

@thealleahjulien

5 ай бұрын

yes I agree

8:20 I'm guessing Grape-Man Hank is going to start appearing and commenting on these videos.

Are there studies that show that washing produce before consumption actually helps to remove pesticide residue and other potential threats?

Love it, no bias. No bloated 2 hour run times. Just the information currently available with a logical, non-political analysis.

I do get what he is saying and the word organic really does not mean much in the US anymore seeing as they've passed several bills so that company's can say something is organic when really it's not at all...such as organic monster energy drink. ^_^' But all the same I grow organic food most of the year expect for during the winter and I just like the taste better...I mean get a real organic home/farm grown fruit or vegetable and store bot big company grown one try them both..I'm VERY sure there will be a night and day different between the tastes...pretty much every winter I just give up on tomato's b/c I can't find any that have flavor at all/all that good of a flavor...they taste like cardboard lol. ^_^' If u read this rant ty and I'm very sorry but I don't read or reply to anyone seeing as I have less drama that way. Reply if ur dense. ^_~

I know this video is 2 years + old but I just saw it, or rather my son saw it and brought it to my attention. First - everything in this video has to do with large farms and does not take into account the very large amount of small farms (3 acres or less). I farm, on a micro farm, 2.66 acres total land area but we run 50 to 80 beds a year. We are not OMRI certified and never will be but we practice organic methods. The video says that organic farms cannot produce the same amount as conventional farms....on large scales this is true... because of their field model. But we annually out produce larger farms by factors of 10 easily. 2 Reasons for this - 1. We use a 2 wheel walk behind tractor 2. Our field model - 30 inch wide 50 and 100 ft raised beds. Both of these provide MUCH higher yields per square ft than conventional or large scale organic farming. An example Conventional farms grow carrots in rows with an avg of 6 rows between their tractor wheels - We get 12 rows per bed On every crop we grow, we at LEAST double that of a conventional farm on yields and number of plants. We have a MUCH smaller carbon footprint due to the use of the walk behind two wheel tractor combined with broad forking which further decreases the use of the two wheel tractor. We use low tunnnels and Catterpillar tunnels to extend our seasons and many farms run year round with this model. Crop rotation does virtually nothing to assist in pest control. It does help with soil borne disease control. OMRI certified or legal "organic" certification DOES NOT mean they do not use pesticides.......they use a LOT of them.....Products like Spinosad for broad based insect control. Spinosad is a bacteria that was found at an abandoned rum distillery in Cuba and was found to kill everything...including bees...which it is extremely toxic to. To me, calling this product organic is like going to Chernobyl and digging around and finding some new bacteria and saying "Hey its organic"....no its not ....not even close. And i sure as hell wouldnt eat it. Spinosad is listed as OMRI certified....so is bleach......So are a lot of products which are obviously not organic in any sense. The point - Organic DOES NOT mean pesticide free. At one time "Organic" was more than just marketing...but no more....its just marketing and a money game. It allows more room for grants and allready bloated federal and state ag departments more funds. Large scale organic operations offer little to no benefit vs conventional farming. To see any real benefit youll have to go to local small and micro farms either through your local farmers market or buy directly from local farms. Question how they grow, do they use pesticides, if so what kinds, do they use Fungicides, if so what kinds. Visit the farm and take a look at their operation.....If you dont see hoop houses or plastic covered tunnels or any size, if you dont see crops covered in finely meshed netting.....be suspicious of what they tell you. If they say they are not using pesticides or fungicides your looking for tunnels or covering over the crops...if you dont see it ask about how they are managing pests and have them explain thier methods. If it does not include "insect netting" "low tunnels" "caterpillar tunnels" "High tunnels" then just walk away as they are using fungicides and pesticides and lying about it. If your serious about your food you have to educate yourself...and if you want the full benifit of low carbon footprint, helping your local economy, pesticide free and fungicide free food, your only options at this point in time are your local farmers market and buying directly from small and micro farms in your community. And even then you need to check the farms your dealing with to make sure your getting what you want.

@DukeGMOLOL

3 жыл бұрын

So you spray nothing on your crops? And you hand weed? Why wouldn't you go ahead and get the USDA Organic certification?

@randomguy9241

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! More truthful and informative than the actual video!

Patiently waiting for comments by Grape Hank on all sci channels

if the animals have to graze for at least 1/3 of the year the meat will have more omega 3's and nutrients.

In Denmark organic does mean more biodiversity, simply because you can't get the state regulated organic symbol without fulfilling a row of different requirements for ensuring biodiversity

Which source is the one you got your food yields from?

@DukeGMOLOL

3 жыл бұрын

Put this in a search bar: USDA data confirm organic yields significantly lower than with conventional farming

Question: How come when you learn to ride a bike you never forget, but when you learn integrals it takes a while to get back to it after a while?

@sarahcb3142

5 жыл бұрын

Muscle memory vs mental memorization?

@help8help

5 жыл бұрын

When you learned how to ride a bicycle you didn't attend a lecture on riding a bicycle. You actually had to ride a bicycle to learn. Or take walking. You learned how to walk before you could talk. The really weird thing is that you sort of learned how to speak without going to classes, but if you want to learn a new language as an adult you might actually have to go to classes. Maybe part the reason is in how often you use integrals. I think an engineer probably does calculus all the time and won't forget, but if your job doesn't require higher math that skill fades. Remember math is based on a set of rules that build on top of other rules ad infinitum. Forget one rule and your calculation could be totally off. You have to a deep memory of math and practice it a lot to be any good at it. Plus maybe you hated learning math and you tried to erase it from your memory. In any case It think the topic would be a good Sci Show episode.

Where is Muscle Hank?? Is he not here yet? Should we be worried??

@HTYM

5 жыл бұрын

The gym. No. And no.

@limiv5272

5 жыл бұрын

Grape Man got him! *dramatic music*

Make up something called 2nd Gen Organic, or Tier 2 Organic. Same rules as the first one, but it allows some GMOs, the sludge stuff, and irradiation. Sell the hipsters on it because it's a more complicated solution that's technically better (they love that stuff). Make it popular, the rest of world follows suit. Bam! Better long term sustainability for the planet.

@ikaemos

5 жыл бұрын

"I'm sorry, do you have x-ray mutant sludge steaks? I've heard this 'organic' stuff has animal manure in it, and that's, like, barbaric."

@GantaaOhime

5 жыл бұрын

Tricking hipsters? What a wild and new marketing idea!

@Triumph263

5 жыл бұрын

"Come on man! No one's doing it yet!"

Sadly, many people just don't grow anything in their own yard/porch/balcony. We can all grow lots of things in our yards. And for those of you who live in an area where you want to garden in your front yard? If your City has an issue, you & your neighbors should get together to change the situation so you can have gardens in your front yard! It looks lovely. 🌾🌿🌱🌻🐞🐝

What about the study done on cattle feed that received irradiation so that it would last longer. This was a really old study and I have never ran across any up dates. Basically the cattle that got the feed right after the feed had irradiated seemed to have some blood count issues. Then if they waited 3 or 6 months to give the same feed this issue seemed to go away. Are there any truth to this or any other studies that someone knows of?

I was in Jakarta. A beauty store said they only sold 'vegetarian make up' I laughed so hard. Who is going to eat make up . Lol.

@andrij3078

3 жыл бұрын

It means those make up won't eating your face

@pokemonbacon1237

3 жыл бұрын

It translates to no animal cruelty

@theoc.8500

3 жыл бұрын

I think the translator was going for vegan, tho cruelty-free seems to be the standard term in the US at least.

all people in LA feeling their identities threatened...................

It was amazing speech!)

6:00 - Not using poop is "kind of a waste." I laughed so hard!

@unoriginal1086

3 жыл бұрын

yeah... but if you think about it, better to have your corn grow a bit bigger than have a poop dump somewhere (but its heavily processed so it is safe.)

Thanks as always for your clear-thinking, evidence-driven presentations.

I feel there is a bit of misinformation in this video, organic certification does not mean environmentally friendly, a proper living garden will have less run off because it is thriving with microbes, bacteria, fungi, full of glomalin, the soil full web holds the nutrient in the soil hence less run off. A good living soil will far out yield conventional farming. Since chemical fertilizer use a lot of energy to be produced, this energy has to come from somewhere and has to be factored in.

@BeCurieUs

5 жыл бұрын

It is, and yet still it is often more economic to employ fertilizers to increase yields. This is why farmers do this in the first place...because it makes economic sense! The end result is often less energy used per hectare because of using these advanced tools. I predict over the coming years their will be a blurring between standard agro and organic as they both have up and downsides the other is starting to recognize. Things like crop rotation, understanding evolutionary pressure of pesticide use, ect... will help both sides develop better practices.

Very nice analysis as usual. But three important points left out: 1. antibiotics in farming seem to be playing and important role in generating antibiotic resistance 2. Animal hormones: could they interfere with human neuroimmunoendocrine system? 3. Ethics of animal exploitation. It is now clear animals can suffer, be stressed, etc. These perceptions and feelings are not unique to humans.

I guess some people may never know since they don’t want to invest the time or money to understand what feels good in there body except the time it took to watch this video...trust your moral compass and have faith...godspeed!!! ❤️🧘‍♂️

In Britain organic fruit and veg tastes significantly better compared to unorganic. Not so for dairy though,not much difference.

@brianjensen5661

3 жыл бұрын

Unorganic is not a word. Genius.

@pheart2381

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianjensen5661 Actually I just checked. Unorganic is officially a word in Britain,dating back as far as 1779!

Organic means expensive.

@Hannahorse715

5 жыл бұрын

no not if u buy 365 brand at whole foods they want to make organic less expensive and healthy option

@mitchellmaytorena1137

5 жыл бұрын

I grow organic medical cannabis and I have it priced at the same as synthetic grown cannabis.

@harshbarj

5 жыл бұрын

Hannah Consiglio It's still more expensive than non organic products. I have bought 365 products, and when I compared them to Aldi there was no comparison.

@silence439

5 жыл бұрын

@@mitchellmaytorena1137 isn't that illegal? It may not be, but I live in the United States.

@mitchellmaytorena1137

5 жыл бұрын

I live in the US as well. All of my operations are in complete compliance with the laws set forth by the state of Oregon.

Hank, you're amazing. The whole SciShow team is amazing. Please never stop what you're doing!!

Outstanding video! Can you now go into the science of grass fed beef? Is it really healthier?

It bothers me when I see a pack of chicken and the package says “no antibiotics ever” because 1- no meat for human consumption has antibiotics in it, there is a wash out period farmers must follow and 2 it tells me the animals do not get the proper veterinary care while alive.

@RusNad

5 жыл бұрын

I don't mind sick animals being treated with antibiotics. But in a lot of countries they are added to feed preventively or even to promote growth. I'm happy people are choosing to market and purchase meat and dairy made with as little antibiotics as possible so we can combat antibiotic resistance.

@altrag

5 жыл бұрын

The big problem with anitbiotics isn't the effect on the meat.. its the effect on the environment, and in particular the antibiotics that don't get absorbed when eaten or otherwise make it out into the wild have been a large part of fueling our current concerns over antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria.

@PersonaRandomNumbers

5 жыл бұрын

No antibiotics doesn't mean no proper veterinary care. It does, however, mean that they're not pumping antibiotics in their feed and keeping them in unsanitary conditions where disease would spread like wildfire without antibiotics. Because, y'know, they aren't using antibiotics.

@wendycooper5435

5 жыл бұрын

Its not about the meat if we keep givig animals antibiotics then bacteria strains will become resistant and screw over humans a good question is how much does your pets need antibiotics not a lot because they get proper rest space and activity so if animals got treated right we would have less antibiotic resistant strains also animals would have a better life

@gumelini1

5 жыл бұрын

@Dream Delirium they dont get sick?Looks like your logic is poor!Like every living thing they too get sick,especially in the first few days.They get diarhea and die if not treated with antibiotics.Later on they can get pneumonia and die if not treated,list goes on and on!How do I know?I live on the farm,and even tho our chickens are kept free range and spend most of the time on the grass,they still get sick.The world is not a sterile place,not sure if you noticed that yet!

There is one thing in the batch you forgot to mention though. Even if organic produces a bit less, compared to the amount of food that is gone to waste, we could still feed everyone with organic with a bit more of food management.

@DTcorn77

5 жыл бұрын

That's a fair point. We could also focus on more actual food production vs other applications such as corn ethanol, soy diesel and the like. That said I'm unsure if there'd be much wiggle room. The thornier question for me is that of what i perceive to be a strong overlap in organic consumers and those that are vegetarian. If you're going to need more manure, but want to cut down on livestock production, how's that gonna work?

@Mindwipe96

5 жыл бұрын

DTcorn77 Vegetarians aren’t the problem, vegans are.

@mathieudehouck9657

5 жыл бұрын

Dear Gentlemen, It turns out, one does not even need that much manure in fact. With a proper crop rotation between crops with different needs and benefits one can have similar outputs as conventional farms without much inputs. Likewise, the 25% drops is in fact in the first 2-4 years because of the practice changes, but after some more years and habits, the output goes back to the level of a conventional farm. This being said, I agree it's easier to do for vegetables than say for big wheat fields...

@DTcorn77

5 жыл бұрын

@@mathieudehouck9657 that's a negative. You cannot remove nutrients without replacing them. And while there are nitrogen fixing plants for example, that nitrogen is primarily used to produce said crop. There's not enough left over for the next year's non - fixing crop to be successful. And that doesn't adress the other nutrients at all

@mathieudehouck9657

5 жыл бұрын

Sure, I didn't mean "we would never ever need nutrients". My point was more, organic often comes with more diversity and more diversity also grants you with using less inputs because you don't "wash" the ground every year the same way. But surely enough, we need to bring back part of what we eat.

The point was made that manure would not have as much run off, that depends on the method of application. If the manure is injected, I would agree, there is little to no run off. If it is spread over the top (most common around where I live) it could run off just as much if not more than other fertilizer with a good rain.

@sarahcb3142

5 жыл бұрын

Could chemical/synthetic fertilizer be injected as well? Or is there something about that type of fertilizer that makes it so you have to put it surface level. Also, didn't know manure could be injected. Thanks for teaching me something today.

@thomasbecker8824

5 жыл бұрын

@@sarahcb3142 you can actually "inject" other kinds of fertilizer. I believe it's called in furrow, where the fertilizer goes down as the seed is being planted. Typically dry or granular fertilizer. Anhydrous amonia is something farmers inject as a nitrogen source for corn. Or they do a crop rotation of soy beans and corn since the soy beans produce tubers that are very good at fixating nitrogen in the soil. Once the plant dies, the nitrogen is in the soil for the next season when they'd plant corn. They could also rotate with alfalfa hay, but the field would typically be in hay for 3 or more years before they rotate to the next crop. In the produce business, you can fertigate. That is when a liquid fertilizer is hooked up to the irrigation line and the plants get fertilizer and water all in one go. The irrigation that I have seen is normally under a black plastic we call row cover. So in that case the rain would not get the chance to move the fertilizer that much. Glad I was able to help you learn something new today too. :)

I good point of the "organics" is the lack of antibiotics because I help to prevent the appearance of antibiotics resistance.

As a food scientist, thank you for this thorough and easy-to-understand video! Everyone at scishow did a fantastic job as usual. Thank you for supporting the science of food!