love the Thai wife-beater! lol!

Great advise! You are an honest reviewer and it's very refreshing to get down to earth, honest reviews such as yours. Thank you so much.

@motodrang4287

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 🙏

Best review I’ve seen given that you included more context (e.g., wind conditions, rider height, etc).

You are a very intelligent and articulate reviewer. Keep up the great work 👍👏

Thanks for your review. I've been looking at one of these Screens for my Explorer & it was helpful to see what it looked like on the bike & your thoughts. Think you have made my mind up for me & will probably be getting one. Thanks again. Cheers Nick👍

Nice video. Was just going through the same experiments with my Africa Twin. 6'1" here and it's the reason I've ridden naked bikes most of my life. I've always preferred even smooth wind, instead of it all being concentrated in one spot (usually the top of the helmet for us tall guys). I ordered a short and touring windscreen from National Cycles. The short one, though very different from stock, didnt change much, so ended up chopping it as short as I could. I now get more wind noise, but turbulance is completely gone. Great for hot weather and offroading. Also ordered a Batzen screen adjuster, and will allow me to try a few settings with the touring vstream, as my first impressions so far is that aside from having to look through and above it, it removed pressure on the shoulders, but not a huge difference in terms of turbulance vs stock. Always a bit surprising how bikes made for tall riders (most adventure bikes) seem to have been wind tested for riders in the 5'6 - 5'7" range...

@motodrang4287

5 жыл бұрын

Speedytrip good info buddy. I suppose that’s what motorcycling is, just one experiment to the next 🤣 and of course pissing our spouses off about motorcycles . I also really like fresh air on the busa but on long trips I’m a wimp.

Great video - really clear, robust discussion. Thank you!

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! hope it helped :) Still happy with that V stream and probably putting one on my Trophy next.

I just bought one of those scorpion at950 too. totally agree, like getting your head trampled in a stampeded and the whole thing amplified in your ears. good video, thanks

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy, I still get good usage outta that at950 but I pay the price in buffetting lol. Ironically, when I review bikes I have to use the 950 over my arai because of mic noise haha.

Great video and the most informative on a windscreen yet. I'm looking to buy a new NC750x DCT and i'm 6' 2". I know the stock tiny screen won't do me any good. All around great information.

Thanks for an actual review I just picked up a 2012 super tenere and I was looking into a different windscreen and I found the National v stream and looked closely at the logo and found out it’s already got one on it 😂 I’m 6’5 and I already adjusted the windscreen all the way up after about 30 miles of freeway travel and that helped but it’s still not ideal for me. I think I’m going to try a visor now

Dude brutal honesty is helpful in today's world!

Articulate and intelligent. Well done. Singha - Everything about Thailand is amazing.

A nice honest reasonable review with a good amount of useable information... Thanks!! (-:

Definitely like the production value of this video...someone's been learning some new stuff....Anyways this is something I'm looking into after riding on the freeway for the first time....I've always thought shields look a bit silly on motorcycles but then my Speed Twin doesn't protect me from anything wind related at a fast enough speed. But that's just one of the many more additional things I've got to get for my bike. My wallet is already crying....As far as the helmet, I wholeheartedly agree, it makes a world of difference. I couldn't bring myself to buy a cheap one. It's gotta protect your brain and I'd rather have a functional brain than anything else...so I'll look forward to your helmet review.

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Well said, I very much agree. The screens do look dorky, especially the larger they are. I think I was ruined by owning a goldwing and got spoiled. That speed twin of yours has some pretty great looking options for small screens and I'm sure some larger ones will come out. So true about the wallet though. Seems like I always need to spend about 300-600 bucks on something. Thanks!

Have a Vulcan S 650 that came with no windscreen. Bought a Puig windscreen which comes up a bit over the level of the bars and gauge. It gave a huge reduction of pressure on my chest but dramatically increased air and noise around my head. I am 6'1". I am very likely going to remove it. The problem is without the screen, any speed above about 65-70mph, gets exhausting very quickly.

Good info. Thank you.

It's all dependant on bike speed. I've got a little run around PCX125 scooter. On a good day 68mph is it's hopping pot. I fitted a Kappa touring screen with a top deflector. Total cost? £85 . It works really well as I only plod along at 50 to 55 but if I had a faster bike there is no way I'd fit one or when touring I'd at least keep the speed down for comfort. Bikes are just plain windy to ride it's the nature of the beast . Strong cross winds with a big screen are a real bitch, my old Matchless 650 was a nightmare but then screens in the 60s were real slabs.. Happy riding and stay safe guy's. The wrinkly rider 👤

Excellent review!

Your right I just put a windshield on my 2018 yamaha Eluder 18.5 tall with a curve at the top but it's dark. Hard to see threw and I still get buffeting . Thanks for the helmet idea . I put the stock screen back on I can see better. But a helmet I thought of.

@motodrang4287

3 жыл бұрын

Great bike! See if clockwerk makes a screen for that bike. They do a good job with faired bike short screens like you see on Harley baggers. I was considering a Voyager myself 👍.

Excellent review and perspective….caught the video a bit late as I just got a horrendously expensive Givi aftermarket windscreen for my bike and discovered it’s just made the problem worse! 🤷🏻‍♂️

@motodrang4287

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and sorry to hear about that, it's crazy how much money we throw at small fixes only to find out it doesn't work at all. I put the same style screen on my Trophe SE and it works great but it's so big you have to look through it to get the benefits so it's a give and take. Hope you find the right screen brotha!

Thanks. Great info and things to consider.

@motodrang4287

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help, thanks!

Thanks for your straightforward and clear honest delivery 👍 We consumers think ,our bykes were designed 100% by conscientious engineers, in sophisticated lab systems, wind tunnels, dynamometers etc What a fraud if parts are just thrown in , for the looks !! 😜🤪

@motodrang4287

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it does seem like the new models I test work a bit better so maybe things are improving. Hopefully that is the continuing trajectory.

I noticed that a larger windshield makes visor on my helmet fog-up due to reduced air flow. Also it created a lot of buffeting noise. I fixed the buffeting by adding an adjustable windshield spoiler, which however reduced airflow even further and increased fogging up. Maybe buying a different helmet with larger vents might help...

@45eno

2 жыл бұрын

I just bought a Vstream for my NC700X and I have the same issue with a brand new Shoei Pinlock insert. I also just added a MRA Sport. I am starting to think there are really only 2 options. No medium / large windscreen upgrades as they create more noise or simply buy something tall enough to put you in the pocket of quiet air. I think stock or no windscreen is really the best as the air is undisturbed and all the vents now get plenty of air.

well ,hes a genuine guy,

I have a National Cycle Wave AKA Stingray windshield, & after much experimentation realized that while wearin open face helmets & sunglasses, that buffeting can go as far as shake my prescription sunglasses to the point of causing serious headaches. The shield itself LOOKS cool as shit all blacked out (95% tint) with its jet-streamed looks, aerodynamics & precision forming. I purchased it to prevent the full force of the wind which causes way too much rider fatigue on the arms, neck, shoulders & helmet resistance at highway speeds. It also diverts air rain & road debris around me. However now I have this turbulence blowin my wrap around prescription glasses all over the place. Any suggestions? A windscreen spoiler to help deflect the wind over your head?

nice vid and thanks for the info

Good balance review. So hard to get a good shield...

Good information. Would've still loved to see how it looks while riding though ;)

@motodrang4287

5 жыл бұрын

ElectroMoto thanks :) maybe I’ll link a supplementary video 😉

I hate that a 5’0” rider will get the tallest screen he can, and he says it’s perfect (without telling you he is 5’0”. Another guy that rides less than 2,000 miles a year (and never really leaves town) will tell you a screen is awesome best thing going. I really wish it were easier to buy seats and windshields.

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Morrison it really does make it challenging. I have to go a hundred miles to a seat guy for custom fitting as well.

Very very good speaker you are

I ride with a Memphis Shades Slim on my Shadow Spirit. Keeps the big bugs off my face down here in SE Looziana. I got no clue if I can do better say with a Batwing or other type.

Good video. Most reviews of windscreen are only positive. Either people are suffering from choice-supportive bias or their experience with windscreens is very limited.

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I started the review out as a product review but then I started noticing the similarities to every windscreen I've ever put on a bike, happy to pass it forward :)

Great video

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I put a Puig on my Tiger 900. Turns out that my aftermarket bark busters hit it before full lock. Just something to be aware of that all products aren't tested with all other products. So the Puig had to go... Perhaps I can trim it down...

Have you tried putting a deflector on the deflector?

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

markman63 was looking to get some but just bought a trophy se and it’s got plenty of weather protection. But yes those do help a bunch 👌

I've found the best option is a short screen. (Less turbulance). I buy or modify the screen so the wind is off my chest, but very clean air on my head. The clean air going past my head with a full face helmet is mostly unnoticeable.

@motodrang4287

Жыл бұрын

Agree, pretty much have to go full blown tour bike if you want real wind protection. My Trophy SE is amazing but it is enormous with the fairings.

@alanhayward6719

29 күн бұрын

I replaced the stock short screen on my scooter with a large touring screen, the wind buffeting was horrendous, in the end I had to take it off and put the original one back on.

I feel I am an expert on motorcycle windscreens. Obviously, I am a former V-Strom owner. (2007-650) I had 3 or 4 screens on that bike and never solved the wind noise problem. One thing, I think the torso height of a rider is actually more important than than their overall height. I am only 5' 8" but I have such a tall torso that I don't even consider the height of a reviewer. I haven't tried a Yamaha FJR1300 with the electrical windshield, maybe that would solve the problem but damn that's a heavy bike.

@SteveWKk

3 жыл бұрын

The only thing that fixed my vstrom was adding the Madstad Bracket.....

@louislopez55

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveWKk That was one of my additions, then I tried at least three different windshield heights on it at various positions leaned back and forth. Really, the best thing is to be a young rider and not even notice or care about the wind noise. When I was in my 20’s it was never a concern on my Nighthawk ‘S’. Haha, thanks for your comment.

Best windscreen video ever. Makes all the other windscreen videos appear made by smooth brain folk.

moving from the Tiger windscreen to the barn door.. :-)

@motodrang4287

3 жыл бұрын

So true 🤣

Good review 👍 Man, is your voice changing? 😆

@motodrang4287

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe I’ll hit puberty at 40 🤣

Doubles as a police riot shield

@motodrang4287

5 жыл бұрын

hahahaha it's anti-antifa approved

@axellness

5 жыл бұрын

@@motodrang4287 haha

It's very simple, nose height and shoulder width for maximum protection or experiment with cardboard before buying.

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! well put.

Tomorrow I'll be working on putting an edging on my stock windscreen to break up the turbulence.

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Hope it works out for you :) I'm always fidgeting with this kind of thing it seems like. Maybe I just like messing with things lol.

@fogrunr5075

4 жыл бұрын

@@motodrang4287 I am 5'7" tall. My helmet is a Bell RS2. I went with a Givi D2138S Windscreen, Smoked for my Yamaha X-Max 300 (2019). I figured out how many inches higher than the stock windscreen I needed to place the top right at nose level (about 3 inches). The new Givi screen is 4-1/2 inches longer than stock. In the top position it's too tall (I'm looking thru it). But on the bottom position (2 inches lower mounting holes) it's perfect (2-1/2 inches them the top of the stock screen) just at nose level. It's very quiet up to about 40 mph, with just the slightest smooth wind sound above that. So at higher speeds I just lean forward a little bit and it's quiet. I can feel and hear when the wind is just skimming and flowing off the top of the helmet without turbulence. Also, the wings on the new screen shield my hands very well from the wind, and I'm sure that will make a big difference in cold weather. January and February were pretty challenging! As far as effect on fuel economy, I was somewhat surprised that it improved from about 77 up to about 82 mpg (50-75 mph over the same routes). Definitely not a big drop in efficiency like I might have expected. It definitely improved.

Hi bro....does windshield decreases mileage ???

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Great question and I have not tested that theory. Maybe I'll do some quick tests soon and find out. I suspect it could effect the mileage because of resistance but will be interesting.

@Thrissur2022

4 жыл бұрын

@@motodrang4287 i tested n shocked to see it decreases mileage...pls chk

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

@@Thrissur2022 Will do! Thanks

Hmm, so we should do a search and watch reviews. WHY Didn’t I think of that?!?!

Wind blast, noise and buffeting ... seems like you always have to keep one.

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Ron Mac well put!

There's another truth, and that is that some bikes have an electronic windshield system - a height for every ride, it's just fantastic.

@motodrang4287

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree, I love the newer tiger 1200's for that reason. Don't have to stop just hit a button. My Trophy has it, amazing how little creature comforts change a ride.

@PeterSmitGroningen

3 жыл бұрын

@@motodrang4287 How do you like your Triumph Trophy? Are you planning to make a video on it? It appears the Trophy is one of the only bikes that has good wind protection wiith the standard screen

@motodrang4287

3 жыл бұрын

@@PeterSmitGroningen The Trophy will be done in January. It was a project bike ( had a major engine defect so I've been sourcing parts) all parts in and the engine will be largely brand new :). I'll let you know when I get it back, nothing like waiting almost a year for something lol.

American made touring bikes you CANT beat Klock!

It would be great if someone had a wind tunnel and they took all the manufacturers wind screens and tested them on a bike so we could see what the differences between them. Why do we the consumer need to be the guinea pigs. All these aftermarket companies claim that theirs is the best, and will stop wind buffeting.

@sscbkr48

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent idea, but that would put an end to products that look good and do little or nothing! Manufacturers supply what consumers will buy.. that being, hope and promises.

windshields and seats are the biggest scam ever.

Why is he rocking a Hitler moustache? Should we be concerned? Only joking mate, good review 👍 Heil….no I’ll leave it there…..

250-400$ for an aftermarket screen, LOL! Not even close dude . Their around 40-150$ USA...idk where youre looking bro but thats way too much.

@motodrang4287

2 жыл бұрын

twistedthrottle.com/shop/ergonomics/windshields-accessories/windshields/givi-airflow-windscreen-for-triumph-tiger-800-11-14/?gclid=CjwKCAjw2vOLBhBPEiwAjEeK9rEEKqoErqbduX7PsnUd0tuo0CKaGfCSzPhQyOC0hlNXL4557nSiihoCXQEQAvD_BwE www.harley-davidson.com/us/en/shop/Wind-Splitter-Quick-Release-Compact-18-in-Windshield/p/57400333 Easy search. And ya way too much. Depending on the bike you get kinda locked in. Especially triumphs, you can usually find a 120 option but it might be a narrow puig.

I don't care how much practicality it offers... it's just too damn ugly lol.

@motodrang4287

3 жыл бұрын

Nspinicelli fair enough 🤣