The true story of the Kelly Gang Armour | Did it work? Who made it?

Ғылым және технология

The Kelly Gang armour is an Australian icon - but how was it made? Subscribe to ABC Science KZread 👉 ab.co/2YFO4Go
Legend has it, it was made over a stringy bark log by the gang themselves, but historians and blacksmiths say all the evidence points to it being done by a professional blacksmith in a forge.
In this 2003 story from ABC TV’s Catalyst program we finally find out the truth, as history meets science. It follows the armour of Joe Byrne, Ned Kelly’s second in command, on a journey of discovery from Glenrowan to the ANSTO’s nuclear reactor in Sydney. There a team of scientists and historians finally shed some light on how the famous armour was made.
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  • @neon922
    @neon9224 жыл бұрын

    I like this man. He owns a piece of priceless armor and lets people see, touch, and wear it. Not keeping it behind a piece of glass just to look at.

  • @SgawCules

    @SgawCules

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Leathley especially documents, like the declaration of Independence, the ink is fading day by day

  • @forget2bhuman993

    @forget2bhuman993

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SgawCules they do restoration on the declaration of Independence constantly dude. all the ink has pretty much been replaced by now :')

  • @johoreanperson8396

    @johoreanperson8396

    4 жыл бұрын

    Do it in my country and some retard will steal it.

  • @user-zg5ey5xo9i

    @user-zg5ey5xo9i

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Oliver Eales *normal european people

  • @crwydryny

    @crwydryny

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'll be honest i cringed every time I saw someone touch the armour with their bare skin, human skin contains some nasty acidic oils that can destroy steel, it takes a lot of work to clean those oils off the metal and seal the metal against moisture and oxygen

  • @juslangley
    @juslangley4 жыл бұрын

    Why does the opening of this video look like something from 1986?

  • @admiralgoodboy

    @admiralgoodboy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Justin E. L. H because it was

  • @gabrielaskew1415

    @gabrielaskew1415

    4 жыл бұрын

    eh Australia's a little bit behind, we're still really looking forward to the opening of ghost busters this weekend.

  • @westvirginiahellbilly8124

    @westvirginiahellbilly8124

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same here at Cabin Creek , W.Va., Gabriel Askew , we are way behind times ! Although we may be a little farther than y’all , Crocodile Dundee , part 2 opens this weekend here in the mountains !!!! DAMN , me and my sister , oops I mean wife can’t wait to go !!! LMAO !!!

  • @Theo-bk6qj

    @Theo-bk6qj

    4 жыл бұрын

    It from 2003

  • @SirSpinalColumn

    @SirSpinalColumn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because ABC

  • @Thatsme849
    @Thatsme8494 жыл бұрын

    “Expert blacksmith”. Surely its almost impossible to make a more crude piece of armor than this lol

  • @crwydryny

    @crwydryny

    4 жыл бұрын

    yep, heck I could do a better job than that in a bush forge, (it helps I know how to build a proper bush forge and am a trained black smith)

  • @cinemar

    @cinemar

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@crwydryny Yes but are you a trained outlaw on the run from the cops who are trying to kill you while you're making it?

  • @medicolkie3606

    @medicolkie3606

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, literally just hammered steel with some bolts

  • @Tyguy161

    @Tyguy161

    4 жыл бұрын

    Try forming metal to any shape you like and you'll see it's not as simple as you think

  • @jackdaniels4975

    @jackdaniels4975

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Tyguy161 I can bend a spoon pretty easy! Surely bullet proof steel is just as easy!

  • @johnsweeney6072
    @johnsweeney60724 жыл бұрын

    After all that science they decided it’s made from steel available to them at that time. WELL DER.

  • @nuclearwinter1984

    @nuclearwinter1984

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Sweeney When he said that, I went well for fucks sake you don’t say??

  • @RictusHolloweye

    @RictusHolloweye

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nope. Aliens!

  • @tracygallagher4632

    @tracygallagher4632

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @johnsweeney6072

    @johnsweeney6072

    4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got a PHD and could have worked that one out. Piss , Hardy , Drunk.🍺🤪

  • @HenryLinMusic

    @HenryLinMusic

    4 жыл бұрын

    That pun game was strong

  • @ioioioioio6026
    @ioioioioio60264 жыл бұрын

    "wow this armour is so mysterious I wonder how it was made" well the fact it's made of steel plates and has bolts holding it together should have been a hint

  • @andrewyork3869

    @andrewyork3869

    4 жыл бұрын

    If that steel is hardened it would need to be heated, to bend it.

  • @scarto3887

    @scarto3887

    3 жыл бұрын

    scotch fueled......the question is who made it and where,maybe over a few scotches eh

  • @cycadaacolyte6349
    @cycadaacolyte63494 жыл бұрын

    I was making similar pieces in my garage with an oak tree stump, a hammer and portable gold rush era forge. Sure it would have been a real pain to make but I think the armor's appearance gives that away...

  • @SSZaris
    @SSZaris4 жыл бұрын

    Can we just appreciate that there's people and machines that can tell how hot a piece of steel got 100 years ago?

  • @Arbiter099

    @Arbiter099

    4 жыл бұрын

    @anonymous one it's not brain surgery

  • @Chew1ee

    @Chew1ee

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ArmchairWarrior it's rocket leage

  • @stevencrawford1841

    @stevencrawford1841

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's not like making a woman orgasm, it's just armor

  • @hunters36forgingwoodworkin73

    @hunters36forgingwoodworkin73

    Жыл бұрын

    Don’t worry it’s simple. Judge by color. Red is 1800ish F, orange is 2000ish F, and white is 2300ish F.

  • @mikeries8549

    @mikeries8549

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh there is more. With more testing you can determine the microstructure of the steel and determine not only how hot it was but also how quickly it was cooled. It actually is rocket science pretty much

  • @CaptainLuckyLuke
    @CaptainLuckyLuke4 жыл бұрын

    In primary school we made our own Ned Kelly armour out of cardboard and ran around throwing rocks at each other to test it out. Never get away with that today. Simpler times.

  • @yaboi-km2qn

    @yaboi-km2qn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Less children with concussions though.

  • @zacrollsie2153

    @zacrollsie2153

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah we still do that mate

  • @DatGamingKid1

    @DatGamingKid1

    4 жыл бұрын

    ​@@yaboi-km2qn ugg

  • @remcovanvliet3018

    @remcovanvliet3018

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@yaboi-km2qn it's called natural selection, snowflake. Something we desperately need to bring back.

  • @freesexyew

    @freesexyew

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup, Dad sent me to school with a wheeties box on my head for dress up day.

  • @noahbass3687
    @noahbass36874 жыл бұрын

    As a blacksmith myself I can see that it wasn't done by a professional smith without having to watch the video. It would have been much more shapely and better fitted for the wearer because moving the metal would have been far easier with a coal forge

  • @BoxLaneProductions

    @BoxLaneProductions

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've only ever seen the typical battle armour that knights and samurai wore, as cool as it is this looks like it was made by a wookie

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BoxLaneProductions Battle armour was hand made by highly skilled armorourers. Their work was unbelievable given they did not have steels that were malleable and ductils per today's products.

  • @Kitasho
    @Kitasho4 жыл бұрын

    We blasted it with a nuclear reactor and found out it was made from steel available in the time it was made, is probably the biggest waste of a nuclear reactor I've ever seen.

  • @flamingfrancis

    @flamingfrancis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most definitely overkill. A small piece or even a small amount of filings could have been analysed at a steelworks laboratory where identification is being performed all the time.

  • @Doctoranthetardis
    @Doctoranthetardis4 жыл бұрын

    You can make a forge with a hole in the ground and forced air. I find it completely probable it was made in the bush.

  • @luke9911

    @luke9911

    21 күн бұрын

    Of course it was. Rocket stove.

  • @tdb7992
    @tdb79924 жыл бұрын

    Suddenly this video from 2003 (uploaded in 2015) is in everyone's recommended. Nice work, algorithm.

  • @crwydryny

    @crwydryny

    4 жыл бұрын

    well to be fair I do watch a lot of historical warfare videos, HEMA videos, and science videos.... so I can see why youtube recommended it to me

  • @Cpt_Boony_Hat

    @Cpt_Boony_Hat

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do the same but mine came up because a mysterious Kelly song earlier

  • @breaux2806
    @breaux28064 жыл бұрын

    Title - "Did it work?" *Armored car opens, revealing helmet with holes shot through it. Me - "No, no it did not."

  • @snakezase2998

    @snakezase2998

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh no it did

  • @louiswain9139

    @louiswain9139

    2 жыл бұрын

    It worked pretty well

  • @markfryer9880

    @markfryer9880

    2 жыл бұрын

    A lot of the bullet damage was done by the police after the siege was over, testing how well it worked against their firearms.

  • @D10RC
    @D10RC4 жыл бұрын

    If ned was alive he would be in stitches laughing that one of the armoured suits been delivered in a 🔐 security van that he would of robbed if he was still with us. Love from 🇮🇪

  • @davgpol

    @davgpol

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why would he have robbed it? It had no money in it

  • @keyworksales6241

    @keyworksales6241

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davgpol because it had his armor in it

  • @TheLumberjack1987

    @TheLumberjack1987

    4 жыл бұрын

    would have, not would of

  • @themaskedman221

    @themaskedman221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheLumberjack1987 lol, he meant to say "would've", but spelled it phonetically.

  • @BenDover-tj8vf
    @BenDover-tj8vf Жыл бұрын

    As an Englishman I have nothing but respect for ned Kelly . I love Australia and Australians, great people , thank you all for your brave lads throughout history . Real men .

  • @00Discourse00

    @00Discourse00

    Жыл бұрын

    Whilst I agree with you, you should be aware that your statement is in somewhat poor taste. Historically we don't exactly share the same sentiment towards Englishmen, we have witnessed you as tax collectors, prison wardens, monarchists supporting a crown that didn't extend a citizens protections or rights to us, but demanded sacrifice and servitude all the same. Our soldiers outright refused to salute English officers during the great wars because of how they behaved, how they treated human lives. I can't speak for others, and certainly not for the dead, but I'd respectfully prefer it if you kept your thanks, at least for me.

  • @BenDover-tj8vf

    @BenDover-tj8vf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@00Discourse00 I agree with everything you have said , however without the lads coming forward not only from Australia but the empire at the time the world would be a much different place , those lads fought like lions and for that and my freedom now I thank them all .

  • @phillipsmith6756

    @phillipsmith6756

    Жыл бұрын

    Ben. The Kellys were thugs and murderers; much like the those who murdered police at Wieambilla QLD in recent weeks. Talk of their personal struggle for rights against injustice just doesn't cut the mustard. We have a strange national naivety in romanticizing our history. Mass hostage taking, such as Glenrowan or the Lindt cafe in Sydney, whether for politics, terrorism or criminal gain, is still an appalling act of abuse, threatening unarmed and powerless people with firearms.

  • @phillipsmith6756

    @phillipsmith6756

    Жыл бұрын

    @@00Discourse00 "our soldiers outright refused to salute English officers during the great wars".... where did that myth come from?

  • @BenDover-tj8vf

    @BenDover-tj8vf

    Жыл бұрын

    @@phillipsmith6756 Australia was a penal colony, the staff who ran it where a thousand times worse than the unfortunates sent there . The police were seriously corrupt and took pleasure in torturing the folk who lived there years after the colony closed . They fought back , killing police at that was no more a crime than killing vermin . I have not one tear or thought for the "law and authority" at that time and I have little for them now . The Kelly's were no more thugs and murderers than the scum that started it .

  • @blameusa7082
    @blameusa70824 жыл бұрын

    no professional armorer would have made something so crude-looking!

  • @jurassicthickness1340

    @jurassicthickness1340

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry what? I don't understand what you're saying

  • @scharftalicous

    @scharftalicous

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't know about that? I doubt they would've had the luxury to give it finer finishings even if it was in a professional shop. Plus some blacksmiths like the heavy duty look.

  • @craigsavarese8631
    @craigsavarese86314 жыл бұрын

    This must have been the inspiration for the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

  • @miktik8624

    @miktik8624

    4 жыл бұрын

    Craig Savarese exactly my thoughts

  • @highfall60

    @highfall60

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe they just used a great helm for inspiration. Y'know, just a thought.

  • @toddwebb7521

    @toddwebb7521

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your arm is gone

  • @207KalashBoy

    @207KalashBoy

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@toddwebb7521 tis but a flesh wound

  • @Benzy670

    @Benzy670

    4 жыл бұрын

    Craig Savarese nah, Monty Python’s inspiration was a Great Helm.

  • @justinjoyit13
    @justinjoyit134 жыл бұрын

    Reprter: ''Should we find out how it was made, wouldn't it be better to leave it as mystery's and myths?'' What a question coming from the person who is making the film about the fact that it being tested and that is what is of interest!

  • @anarchyorslavery1616
    @anarchyorslavery16164 жыл бұрын

    I thought they were gonna make a copy and shoot at it, very dissapointed!

  • @Etherman7

    @Etherman7

    4 жыл бұрын

    What, actual ballistics testing? That requires scary bang sticks, cant have those on the news. It'd frighten the children.

  • @BigBeerus

    @BigBeerus

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol why bother you can tell the first 2 rounds that hit is passed through easily. Just look at it.

  • @bedeodempsey5007

    @bedeodempsey5007

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's Australia, they threw all their guns into the sea....

  • @davgpol

    @davgpol

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why? The original worked just fine

  • @KittycatKye

    @KittycatKye

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davgpol With the high powered firearms of today, most cartridges would almost certainly go straight through that hunk of metal.

  • @tomthompson7400
    @tomthompson74004 жыл бұрын

    very interesting , and well done to the owner for letting the tests take place.

  • @AmanAman-ri9kk
    @AmanAman-ri9kk4 жыл бұрын

    Historic armor Gets sent to nuclear reactor

  • @grumpy2606

    @grumpy2606

    4 жыл бұрын

    What's your point?

  • @bloodking73

    @bloodking73

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@grumpy2606 its funny

  • @gurgy3

    @gurgy3

    4 жыл бұрын

    I thought they were going to test it against a blast.

  • @grumpy2606

    @grumpy2606

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bloodking73 How is it funny?

  • @BRDScorpion

    @BRDScorpion

    4 жыл бұрын

    The logic is trough the roof

  • @sopwithpuppy
    @sopwithpuppy4 жыл бұрын

    So, I got 23 seconds into this video and was compelled to point out the spelling on the Armoured Van. (ARMERD TRANSPORT). Would you trust your valuables to this company?

  • @tracetassie4637

    @tracetassie4637

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmfao ah must be french😂😂😂😂💀💀💀

  • @SirSpinalColumn

    @SirSpinalColumn

    4 жыл бұрын

    And then proceed to load it into the back of a VT commodore wagon?

  • @dmjaxun9848

    @dmjaxun9848

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tracetassie4637 Why would it be in French?

  • @tracetassie4637

    @tracetassie4637

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dmjaxun9848 say armerd in a french accent

  • @tracetassie4637

    @tracetassie4637

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dmjaxun9848 you never seen a christmas story?

  • @Honsanmai
    @Honsanmai4 жыл бұрын

    Where others would have touched those armor pieces like egg shells, those dudes basically went like "oi mate, want to stick your mug in a piece of history?". I'm somewhere between wincing at the rough handling of it (iron/steel and fingerprints don't go well together) and smiling because of how much fun they have interacting with this armor.

  • @carsonaswell2809

    @carsonaswell2809

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s a suit of haphazardly forged armor made out in the boonies. It’ll be fine

  • @mikeries8549

    @mikeries8549

    Жыл бұрын

    If you would like to gander at ancient antique junk I've got a whole house full but you must handle each piece with gloves like it actually is priceless. Hurry before the fire.

  • @athiefinthenight6894
    @athiefinthenight68944 жыл бұрын

    i remember my primary school teacher saying her grandfather helped made ned kelly's armour. if you are still alive mrs Trafford have a good day

  • @athiefinthenight6894

    @athiefinthenight6894

    4 жыл бұрын

    i think she said a blacksmith melted down old horse shoes and gardening tools to make the armour

  • @Blaster-po5ou

    @Blaster-po5ou

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@athiefinthenight6894 Which is false

  • @athiefinthenight6894

    @athiefinthenight6894

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Blaster-po5ou stfu you know as much as i do and unless you where there at the time or a qualified scientist with 100% certainty don't correct people with something you are not even sure on

  • @gravygames5945

    @gravygames5945

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@athiefinthenight6894 This is literally a video of scientists saying with 100% certainty that this isnt the case

  • @athiefinthenight6894

    @athiefinthenight6894

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gravygames5945 this is not ned kelly's armour its joe burn's there is a difference. And Science can be wrong.

  • @acronm20
    @acronm204 жыл бұрын

    Deontay wilder’s walkout suit

  • @vshv9136

    @vshv9136

    4 жыл бұрын

    Till this day

  • @Whatmurdaaaaa

    @Whatmurdaaaaa

    4 жыл бұрын

    He wouldn't have made out of the locker room

  • @boilabum

    @boilabum

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ouch lol. Hope hes got an armor codpiece because that was below the belt! Hehe

  • @vshv9136

    @vshv9136

    4 жыл бұрын

    More than 40 pounds man

  • @MaxUgly

    @MaxUgly

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nice one

  • @ValdVincent
    @ValdVincent4 жыл бұрын

    Doesn't it being made by a bunch of gangsters make it cooler?

  • @reedy_9619

    @reedy_9619

    4 жыл бұрын

    Still trash

  • @reedy_9619

    @reedy_9619

    4 жыл бұрын

    cdcopper flat earth.. tide pod challenge... sjw... « the moon doesn’t exist » .. « mountains are tree stumps » «magic rocks cure cancer »... Are you really surprised? It’s far from being the most stupid thing i ve heard.

  • @roostersbays95

    @roostersbays95

    2 жыл бұрын

    they wernt gangsters...

  • @jameswalton5733
    @jameswalton57334 жыл бұрын

    i gotta admit, adding the phrase 'they even made their own armor to fight in their last stand' would be pretty badass especially if it worked and the armor protected them from the shots

  • @OswaldBeef
    @OswaldBeef4 жыл бұрын

    3:25 it gets pretty hot when I’m in the Bush I tell you. But seriously that’s bushcraft alright

  • @JoshuaMcTackett
    @JoshuaMcTackett3 жыл бұрын

    Remember when the ABC was good and did actually decent programming?

  • @flashfire2906
    @flashfire29064 жыл бұрын

    classic youtube, recommending a video years after it was uploaded

  • @chrisalbrecht1297
    @chrisalbrecht12974 жыл бұрын

    Coincidentally i was talking to a new associate yesterday and we were talking about our family history. Her family history was from Daylesford like mine. She claims that her one of her great grandfather's not sure how many generations ago was a blacksmith in Daylesford and his claim to fame was making Ned Kelly's armour in his blacksmith shop in Daylesford. She didn't know how true it is but that's there family story handed down through the generations. So I hope this keeps the mystery alive." SUCH IS LIFE ."

  • @chrisalbrecht1297

    @chrisalbrecht1297

    4 жыл бұрын

    @knife I have been doing some research and the family name I was given was one of the names police and historians mention. I'm not willing to give the name as I don't have permission from the person or family members of the person or persons involved. I'm not saying this is factual information just a coincidental conversation I had the day before I saw this clip.

  • @scarto3887

    @scarto3887

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisalbrecht1297 however you're here noting yourself without being accountable WTF ?

  • @chrisalbrecht1297

    @chrisalbrecht1297

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@scarto3887 A bit more cryptic for you mate. His name starts surname starts with a C ends in a h and he was a black Smith in the Beechworth area before moving to Daylesford. He then owned the local gig, then his son became a black Smith also. And he may and I say may. Have taught Ned how to make a Bush forge demonstrated and taught the Ned and the lads how to armour up. Like I said a reputable source. And if you cannot give me a name in the next 48 hours. You are a oxygen theife. No offence but I just gave you the name. Take care. Enjoy some actual research.

  • @sheepdog4041

    @sheepdog4041

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisalbrecht1297 You have your bragging rights mixed up with your arse.Don't believe all that you read

  • @markfryer9880

    @markfryer9880

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well my family history has it that my forebear was a blacksmith in Benalla, right next door to the police station. The cops found his maker's mark on some of the armour and accused him of making it. He protested his innocence and other blacksmiths were able to show the police that the armour had not been made over a smithies forge. As my relative no doubt said "Why would I put my mark on something like that and have made it right here next-door to your police station????" No doubt his mark was on one or more of the plow shares used in the armour and had not been damaged by the Kelly Gang when making their armour.

  • @dudesweetpro
    @dudesweetpro4 жыл бұрын

    How did they find every clueless Australian at that party to comment how the god awful armor was made by an “expert blacksmith” WTF?

  • @TheMijman

    @TheMijman

    4 жыл бұрын

    It looks like a pile of shite. Needs must sorta way. It's hilarious anyone would think an expert blacsmith would make that Have they ever seen a real suit of armour?

  • @johnathansaegal3156
    @johnathansaegal315615 күн бұрын

    It absolutely adds to the story and does not destroy the myth. I think it makes the story even more intriguing.

  • @marklospoopoo
    @marklospoopoo4 жыл бұрын

    The 80's called. It wants its video back.

  • @scrubsrc4084
    @scrubsrc40844 жыл бұрын

    Priceless peice of history..... rolling around in the floor of the van

  • @shaymcleod5735
    @shaymcleod5735 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine how proud Ned would have been knowing that his amour is a huge part of our nations history

  • @chrissoto7187
    @chrissoto71874 жыл бұрын

    $20 it was made in the bush!

  • @chrissoto7187

    @chrissoto7187

    4 жыл бұрын

    And I was right I know what a stone anvil mark looks like

  • @andrewroy6376

    @andrewroy6376

    4 жыл бұрын

    La dee da. You're so smart. Or skipped ahead. Dumbass

  • @waynearmstrong5233
    @waynearmstrong523325 күн бұрын

    Definitely adding to the story!

  • @whynottalklikeapirat
    @whynottalklikeapirat4 жыл бұрын

    "It's not often scientists get a chance to take a piece of Australian history into the lab" ... uh, well, yeah that's actually kind of what scientists do ...

  • @crwydryny

    @crwydryny

    4 жыл бұрын

    well to be fair australia doesn't have a lot of history to take into the lab

  • @whynottalklikeapirat

    @whynottalklikeapirat

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@crwydryny I am sure there must be a few bits of history strewn about the place, I understand it's fairly spaceous. And let's not so hastily disregard the untold millenia of aboriginal history either =.O

  • @themaskedman221

    @themaskedman221

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@crwydryny From the pov of an American like me, I'm beginning to wonder what other history Australia has besides this. They've got the Ned Kelly museum, the Ned Kelly restaurant, the Ned Kelly family home historical site, scientific testing on the Ned's armour. Naturally the US has outlaws in its history, but none around whom the entire national narrative gravitates.

  • @davidgibbes967

    @davidgibbes967

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheWaggishAmerican at least 60,000 years of it, you seppo clown

  • @steely10
    @steely104 жыл бұрын

    The True History of the Ned Kelly Gang movie brought me here. I found this an interesting bit of Australian history.

  • @bhaddock9277
    @bhaddock92774 жыл бұрын

    Genuinely interesting, thanks

  • @DoctorTooploop
    @DoctorTooploop4 жыл бұрын

    you managed to tell us absolutely nothing that we didn't already know

  • @lauraarcher1730

    @lauraarcher1730

    Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t know!

  • @bonniemagpie5166
    @bonniemagpie51664 жыл бұрын

    Ned's descendant, 'Ned's' say is very plausible, that they used a tree trunk for a shapely model. They used to sit around fires, at least one of them had a blacksmith in the family and so lent some skill. T'is finely made: it might be the closest thing you will find of a knights armour here in Australia. Shapely and decorative Kings and Knights armour stayed behind in England and Europe, we don't hear of all that coming to Australia.

  • @jublywubly
    @jublywubly4 жыл бұрын

    I managed to heat a metal fire poker to white hot, in a domestic pot belly stove. I'm certain people could easily achieve similar results using rocks to create a forge. If there's any granite around the area, there would likely be flat sheets available, too.

  • @DeadKennedys-eo1oo
    @DeadKennedys-eo1oo8 ай бұрын

    The Symbol of bravery,mateship and freedom.

  • @bradwilliams7212

    @bradwilliams7212

    Ай бұрын

    Ned Kelly gave up his mate Harry Power and arranged the murder of Aaron Sherritt, another mate. You are delusional.

  • @antoniocarniero5138
    @antoniocarniero51384 жыл бұрын

    Always found it bizarre that the Kelly gang were the only out law gang to make body armor, I mean they still lost in the end but they went down fighting and Ned even survived in it but had his legs shot to hell.

  • @sparks6177
    @sparks61774 жыл бұрын

    WHAT?! It was made with metal from the 19th century???!? And it was made by the amateur blacksmith in the Kelly gang?!? the techniques we’ve lost it brings a tear to me eyes. This is a discovery science will speak of for generations to come!

  • @xMrjamjam
    @xMrjamjam4 жыл бұрын

    Pretty easy for a beginner Smith to make something like this using a basic charcoal forge. Coal forges get way way hotter and yet with charcoal you can melt steel. Its also not hard to silence an anvil so it doesn't ring and damage your hearing you just mount it properly by staking your anvil shaped object or anvil down onto a tree stump, if the anvil doesn't move it won't ring

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme61420 күн бұрын

    “I dedicated my right leg to the gang” If you didn’t know the context, someone hearing that would have thought that he had his leg cut off.

  • @harmonic5107
    @harmonic51074 жыл бұрын

    "No one knows just how it was made" Presumably a hammer?

  • @00Discourse00
    @00Discourse00 Жыл бұрын

    As a man in my twenties as well, I've gotta say I'd be absolutely bewildered, slightly amused and very disappointed that such a footnote item in my life had been treated as such a sacred relic by my kin, the kin of my enemies, and even the kin of onlookers for hundreds of years after my (arguably justified) murder. A man with a story, a life and circumstances, a personality and thoughts, reduced to a makeshift piece of repurposed scrap metal. What a tasteless joke.

  • @MrLoobu

    @MrLoobu

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol that's what I was thinking

  • @sanalexgamingtr3881
    @sanalexgamingtr38814 жыл бұрын

    they say that It's not possible to heat the iron to yellow color (1000°C) In a bushforge. But I saw a guy who actually made a forge in the bushes without any modern tools and made his own iron tools in it. I also saw the iron was yellow when he did it.

  • @Free_Krazy
    @Free_Krazy4 жыл бұрын

    JS having a party around a suit of armor worn by a murderer and outlaw is a bit unsettling....

  • @tinfoilhazmat4539

    @tinfoilhazmat4539

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Epoxygleu wait till you here about Australia Day

  • @CrusaderSports250

    @CrusaderSports250

    4 жыл бұрын

    A huge public display with fires and fireworks in many places and displays in many domestic areas to celebrate the capture and public dismemberment of a man at odds with the system, long live Guy Fawlks night!!!.😀

  • @joem21292
    @joem212924 жыл бұрын

    You can't just stick an object on a stand and say to people look at it LMFAO someone has never been to a museum before 😂😂😂

  • @jordanoneill82
    @jordanoneill8227 күн бұрын

    one of my closest friends is descendant from joe byrne. so awesome that he wore iconic armour too

  • @Thunda1986
    @Thunda19864 жыл бұрын

    Exactly my thoughts on who made the armour

  • @SuperMadmadman
    @SuperMadmadman4 жыл бұрын

    I can only guess the depth of streaming hours I must have sunk to in order to pop this on my recommended in 2020...

  • @gwolf6975
    @gwolf69754 жыл бұрын

    Beating plow shares into suits of armor. Wild.

  • @paulhicks6667
    @paulhicks666727 күн бұрын

    Ned Kelly little knew that one day an unknown man would honour him by getting a tattoo of him on his thigh. I hope that one day, I am briefly memorialised in the same way, and that, from time to time, my image is even glimpsed by another person, if the man should remove his trousers and underpants in a situation where another person is there to witness it.

  • @bucc5207
    @bucc5207 Жыл бұрын

    Gotta love Stevo, dropping trou for the camera to honour the Kelly gang. That's pretty Aussie.

  • @TitanTubs
    @TitanTubs2 жыл бұрын

    It's even more legendary now

  • @robertstallard7836
    @robertstallard78364 жыл бұрын

    You had your expert blacksmiths who would have made horseshoes and all the complicated stuff. But that would cost. Then, at that time, many farmers would have had a ranch hand who, although not exactly a blacksmith, could manage some basic stuff like heating and bending a simple bar to make a rudimentary gate latch or something. He was useful because he did it as part of his normal duties as need arose, often using a small farm forge for the purpose. When people talk about a "blacksmith" making it (or helping the gang to make it), they probably mean someone like the relatively amateur ranch hand.

  • @Ryan.90
    @Ryan.903 жыл бұрын

    Would have pissed myself if half way through someone went, 'hang on a minute, somebody's scratched their name here...'

  • @maksimrashkovskiy9187
    @maksimrashkovskiy91874 жыл бұрын

    Extra Credits: The kelly gang crafted the armor themselves Most people: NO 2015: So we did some tests

  • @prophez23
    @prophez234 жыл бұрын

    I'm a professional blacksmith and custom knife maker and I could have told them without all the fancy testing that it wasn't done by a blacksmith. If you know how to read steel you can see it. That steel never got forging hot. It was done by inexperienced hands in a hot wood fire.

  • @jamestopham7744

    @jamestopham7744

    Жыл бұрын

    There not plough blades sureley?? Those blades look about 8mm thick

  • @flamingfrancis
    @flamingfrancis2 жыл бұрын

    For the suit to be used by NK around 1880 the original material must have been produced some time earlier. Steels of the time were very impure as there was no known way to refine better. The image from the electron microscope shows that there are lots of inclusions in the matrix. It would have made more sense to discuss the material with technical expertise from the steel industry who are very familiar with testing various steels and the iron this is more likely to be.

  • @subatomic10
    @subatomic102 жыл бұрын

    All these experts should try doing this in the same settings as they did . And only Blacksmiths under 25 years of age

  • @mfhoss9570
    @mfhoss95704 жыл бұрын

    the og madlad

  • @steampoweredmaniac5359
    @steampoweredmaniac53594 жыл бұрын

    This is the most mad max thing I’ve ever seen (apart from mad max).

  • @Capthrax1
    @Capthrax14 жыл бұрын

    so a 'bush fire' with a good ember base and a hollow tube to interduce air to the coals riases the temp very quickly and yeah

  • @romainvicta3076
    @romainvicta30764 жыл бұрын

    i could tell just from the quality that it wasnt a blacksmith; this is near the turn of the century any established blacksmith would not let shoddy work like that leave shop

  • @Raphtalia.Everyone
    @Raphtalia.Everyone4 жыл бұрын

    Also in 1898 in Fort Mercer at state of New Austin United States 4 people raided the fort accupied by a gang who was hooled up there by the marshals. Thees 4 people wore the armour and killed em all in there.

  • @Joe005
    @Joe0057 күн бұрын

    “This wasn’t professionally made if I say so myself. I can do a better job than that… *scoff*” Yes sorry, I didn’t realise the Kelly gang, being highly wanted outlaws and all, could’ve just walked into a professional blacksmith workstation and be like “we’re on the run but it’s ok we’re allowed to have a break. do you mind making full custom made suits? We want them to be professional and practical”

  • @phillipsmith6756
    @phillipsmith6756 Жыл бұрын

    fascinating difference between the historians of the Victoria State Library, constantly dusting and only ever handling Ned's armour in gloves - padding under the tilt visor etc... and just handing it round. The 'owner' (and I'm curious about how these things are sold around) obviously has it secured, but not worried about preserving it: more like a souvenir than a piece of national heritage?

  • @trojanlorrie
    @trojanlorrie4 күн бұрын

    Amazing to think it was actually made by these fellows. Folk tales can be real

  • @Wraithsong
    @Wraithsong4 жыл бұрын

    i HIGHLY doubt that was made by a blacksmith. second month apprentice....MAYBE. there is no sign that whoever did the hammering had ever done anything but bend nails before. :) really grateful that there are folks out there in the world willing to let people get that close to history! cheers

  • @autofocus3579
    @autofocus35794 жыл бұрын

    Great legend.

  • @AdamAdamHDL
    @AdamAdamHDL3 жыл бұрын

    How was it made? Looks impossible to reverse engineer. I mean, what's it even made of? How is it joined together? It's a mystery.

  • @CK-xe4hy
    @CK-xe4hy4 жыл бұрын

    "YOU'RE BLOODY BULLETPROOF BOYS!"

  • @shaunprimmer2676
    @shaunprimmer26764 жыл бұрын

    How did that Commodore make it from glen rowan to Sydney.

  • @Sokail87
    @Sokail874 жыл бұрын

    "You couldn't get it hot enough out in the bush"... In Australia... Yeah, right...

  • @chaos_omega
    @chaos_omega4 жыл бұрын

    I can see why people would think it was made by a blacksmith... The visors for the helmets look pretty good, for example. Turns out it's just a fairly impressive feat for some non-blacksmiths!

  • @dustinhaus1165
    @dustinhaus11654 жыл бұрын

    It is not hard to make a forge, billows, containment. The magic of the neolithic

  • @ironhornforge
    @ironhornforge4 жыл бұрын

    As a blacksmith and without finishing the video yet (paused at 3:29) I highly doubt a blacksmith made it, it looks rushed, hastily made and slapped together. A smith of the time would have been able to make a better set with his eyes closed.

  • @ironhornforge

    @ironhornforge

    4 жыл бұрын

    Boom, I was right.

  • @Sekrf

    @Sekrf

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm a smith too, its pretty obvious really. It's interesting, the bending would've been relatively easy at cherry red, but I wonder how much hot cutting they would've had to do. That would've been a right pain in the ass with a cold forge and no power tools...

  • @lib556
    @lib5564 жыл бұрын

    I recall reading years ago that the police were using Martini-Henry rifles on the Kelly gang. Any bullet hitting that armour is going to ring your bell. But, a .577 calibre, 480 grain bullet travelling 1,300 ft/sec... ouch!

  • @phoenixmodellingphotography

    @phoenixmodellingphotography

    Жыл бұрын

    Not surprisingly, Ned's face was swollen black and blue by the time they lifted his helmet off after apprehending him

  • @Anthanos89
    @Anthanos89 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how it would stack up to a modern 30-06 rather than the lever actions back then. I suspect it may have stopped the bullet from exiting the body on the other side..

  • @aaronmcgoldrick2439

    @aaronmcgoldrick2439

    Жыл бұрын

    The British program "Time Team" fired modern rifles and projectiles from a 300 Win Mag and it punched through the similiar steel plate used in the demo. I would bet a 30-06 with 150-180 grain soft points would punch through. The kinetc energy would heat up the lead and melt through the metal. After all the WW1 Germans used the same principle by shooting reversed projectile at British tanks.

  • @hilossrt4
    @hilossrt4 Жыл бұрын

    Fact: anyone who can heat metal and work it into anything functional can call themselves a blacksmith. Thus, it was made by a blacksmith.

  • @cmacdhon
    @cmacdhon4 жыл бұрын

    Just before Ned Kelly's capture, he was known to have said "Alright, We'll call it a draw."

  • @pickledone9698
    @pickledone9698 Жыл бұрын

    Confirmed what I always believed as fact that Ned and his gang made the suits themselves. Not putting the Blacksmith sympathiser of Glenrowan at risk of persecution by the constabulary.

  • @thetruthexperiment
    @thetruthexperiment4 жыл бұрын

    I’m not Australian, this is the first time I’ve heard of this, but one look at that and no self respecting professional would have made something that crude looking. As a symbol of national pride I can see how some would glorify it in their minds but that is not made by a blacksmith. One look. Black smiths have lots of skills. And yes, you can make a forge in the bush. No nobody heated it over a “bush fire”. People in those days had to know a lot of things to be able to survive. Every farmer knew a little bit about everything. Most definitely the basics of metal work. Any farmer in those days knew how to do everything. Poor farmers couldn’t afford contractors. They did everything themselves.

  • @garybaker6067
    @garybaker60673 жыл бұрын

    "Joe Byrne built this in the bush from scrap!" "I'm sorry. I'm not Joe Byrne."

  • @D-train69
    @D-train694 жыл бұрын

    I like the way things are ran down under they all seem honest not trying to lie, chet, steal and hide information from a guy

  • @jimmybritt9537
    @jimmybritt95372 жыл бұрын

    I'm happy to know that the gang made their own armor 😉👍👍🇺🇸

  • @ionceateapinecone
    @ionceateapinecone4 жыл бұрын

    *Australians:* nah, yeah, look at the craftsmanship! it had t'be a blacksmith, mate! *literally everyone else:* areyousureaboutthat_cena.png

  • @noelhutchins7366
    @noelhutchins73664 жыл бұрын

    TrollHunter was a good movie, but this armor is the inspiration for the prop suit featured with a "Red Button".

  • @camron.w1841
    @camron.w18414 жыл бұрын

    Wow youtube you really got me this time.

  • @jolla9963
    @jolla9963 Жыл бұрын

    There is nothing to say it wasn't made by a blacksmith, but it was not made in a Smith's forge, that be forged out bush by 1 Smith and 4 men with hammers and /or axes, and bend over a log. Somewhere in the Victorian bush is a whole in the ground with an amazing story to tell..

  • @themoodybobby1
    @themoodybobby14 жыл бұрын

    We have made forges in the woods and made very good knives with them. It could have been made there easy.

  • @mickr12345
    @mickr123454 жыл бұрын

    Give it to myth busters. Would have been better.

  • @mikeoz4803
    @mikeoz4803 Жыл бұрын

    Police today are almost as brutal & corrupt as in Ned's day (who will ever forget Melbourne lockdowns. Old lady bashed to ground & pepper sprayed, pregnant woman in pyjamas arrested in home etc) Image back in the 1870s when the law WAS the big landowners who had the police & judges in their pockets. A poor man had no chance. Ned was a product of this & his hatred of the 'traps' grew with every outrage. The fact is a Royal Commission into the 'affair' was conducted in early 1881 & resulted in the sacking of two police Superintendents, a police inspector being retired & several other officers reduced in rank. The charge of attempted murder of constable Fitzpatrick by Ned & his brother Dan was found to be false. Fitzpatrick was later dismissed from the police force on several counts & that he 'could not be trusted out of sight & never did his duty'. The police in the bush were notorious for corruption & lagging innocent men for monetary reward from rich land owners who lost livestock. Any man would do so long as the police got their reward. Many innocent people spent years locked up in hell holes while the police conducted themselves like tyrants - which was also raised in the Royal Commission & was one of Ned's grievances. Just look at the police shooting peaceful innocent protesters in Victoria recently & the brutal way they conducted themselves. Nothing has changed in Victoria. I had the privilege of speaking with Ern Straughair from Benalla in 1991. This man knew Jim Kelly, Ned's brother. He told me that during the police stakeout on the Kelly homestead, Kate Kelly was raped by the police when she went for a horse ride. She was 15. She went to Melbourne for a 'holiday' (abortion) & at 35, committed suicide due to the trauma. Show less

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