A huge thank you to everyone who made this project possible

@ZanderMiller213

Жыл бұрын

500k lets go man

@Gay...dude...vr...

Жыл бұрын

Hi wayton

@kibbycaps

Жыл бұрын

Awesome you are soon going to be known of by nearly all the comunity

@daveberry3741

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the content keep it up bro

@jeremythomas1081

Жыл бұрын

As a person who loves to play dropshot as a gold i always play against champs and diamonds im wishing a hard reset comes soon.

This entire bot thing was one of the craziest things to happen in rocket league so far

@christiantaylor1495

Жыл бұрын

And I didn't even notice a difference because I didn't watch KZread

@Supercharge7868

Жыл бұрын

Correction, THE craziest thing to ever happen.

@gamerandcontroller9129

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but console players are going “wait, what are you guys talking about?”

@Supercharge7868

Жыл бұрын

@@gamerandcontroller9129 we know exactly what these guys are talking about

@aqua-bery

Жыл бұрын

@@christiantaylor1495 or frequent reddit

These documentaries are always straight up quality Keep up the good work my dude

@jout738

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion they should keep making even better Rocket League bots, but not publicaly give it to random humans to use. The better Rocket League bots could be used in rlsc to compete against the best RL players in the world, so we can see can they beat the best RL players in the world and become the new world champions in the world in RL.

@tarotangrine3681

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@kongoll

Жыл бұрын

@@jout738 That's not how it would work generally; in all cases we've seen where bots start to surpass human capability, they don't go head to head. I think there would be a parallel competition for bots exclusively considering once the bots have reached a certain level, humans will never beat them again.

@DVigilante7

Жыл бұрын

​@@kongoll pretty soon, bots are going to take over the world 🤖🌎

@shadowyzephyr

Жыл бұрын

@@jout738 they are doing this (or trying to)

Wayton doesn’t upload too much but when he does 😈 the camera angles go hard

@enrique593

Жыл бұрын

how did you reply a day ago when this was posted 45 minutes ago? is this just only me or the video giving me some vibes

@muheebkhalid9717

Жыл бұрын

@@enrique593 it was premiered so i think he commented then

@PASIFX

Жыл бұрын

@@enrique593I’m a bot, we are not just in rocket league

Your production quality is unmatched in the RL scene. This is like a short movie!

@kingsofspencer

Жыл бұрын

It’s not unmatched. You forgot about sunless

@enverko

Жыл бұрын

@@kingsofspencer Sunless does produce some serious high quality content, but wayton has been continuously stepping up his game. I consider his content to be of higher quality.

@Adrian-YT

Жыл бұрын

Im the 100 like on this comment xd

@Snookbone

Жыл бұрын

Well done on Liking The Thing

@peter810406

10 ай бұрын

​@@enverkocxcccccnppn😊b

There are many RL content creators, but Wayton's production quality and story telling is just another level 👏

@Snookbone

Жыл бұрын

Well done on Liking The Thing

waytons ability to turn a video game into a full documentary is crazy. Keep up the great work.

@tele_gram-Covert_goblue

Жыл бұрын

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@Snookbone

Жыл бұрын

Well done on Liking The Thing

i cannot thank you enough for making videos with this amount of work put into them. great research, great storytelling and executed just great as well.

Your production quality is remarkable and is quite reminiscent of LEMMINOs content in terms of research and narration. The way you’ve merged this cinematic and professional documentary style commentary content with the complexities and depth that comes with a topic as unique as Rocket League is genuinely amazing and I’m glad that you’ve found such success with it. Keep it up!!

This is lowkey one of the best videos I’ve ever watched in my entire life… The editing feels as good as movie and the way you tell the story is unmatched. Great job man.

@MrShanester117

Жыл бұрын

That’s just sad. And if it’s one of the best videos you ever saw how is that low key?

The thing is despite most people coming together to avoid something like this again there is definitely gonna be someone who is developing and releasing a much higher level bot with harder to detect movements. It probably already exists and is just not publicly spread yet

@teo2157

Жыл бұрын

Ai randomisation is not hard to include. Or even hard code some noise or bad decisions

@paulie-g

Жыл бұрын

@@teo2157 Oh, but it is. Neural networks are black boxes, so you can't tweak them directly. You'd have to find a way to do work at the output and that's tricky because you haven't done the feature extraction yourself. In any case, statistical analysis (if RL develops one) of bot gameplay against human gameplay is going to detect it easily and, while it isn't practical to run it on all players/matches all of the time, it would be trivial to do so upon report. The only way around that is to train the model on a corpus of human gameplay and rewarding it not for winning, but for closely matching human play. This is a completely different setup and would require an absolutely humongous corpus of real matches, which doesn't and likely won't ever (without RL's cooperation) exist.

@teo2157

Жыл бұрын

​@@paulie-g Perfectly valid points, but i still think we have methods to introduce randomness. AI researchers have been experimenting with various techniques to introduce randomness or errors into AI models to make them more robust and adaptable to different situations. For instance, some researchers have used techniques like dropout, which randomly drops out neurons during training. I'm sure this could be one of many techniques to introduce quirks and randomness Also, The I developers could also just use adversarial training or your suggestion of just imitation learning, which while suboptimal, I really doubt that it would be too difficult to find enough material to through off any statistical analysis anti-cheat. And also, if worst comes to worst, just simply hard code imperfections, and randomly adjust the bot's reaction time or accuracy to simulate human-like errors. (At the cost of performance)

@paulie-g

Жыл бұрын

@@teo2157 It's not about randomness or reaction time or errors. Models that are not specifically trained to imitate human performance are going to have statistically very significant differences with human play. It's telling that not only did players identify bots, but were able to clearly state discernible and easy to measure features of their play. It's one thing to train models on 100k+ hours of play when it is cheaply produced by another copy of the model in real time and never stored. How are you going to get that much from humans and who pays for the storage? It's entirely off-limits to hobbyists for cost reasons, and anyone RL or another server doesn't cooperate with for access reasons.

@teo2157

Жыл бұрын

@@paulie-g but aren’t we talking about simply making it harder for anti cheat to detect statistically impossible gameplay? like, take any other game with anti cheat, the players usually know if a player is hacking, of course, to solve this would be just as you said, training the model on actual human gameplay. but the point is to foil the anti cheat.

Congrats on 500k Wayton! You deserve every bit of it!

Wayton’s videos have so much quality. Great research, and very well made video!

Wayton, you’re a true talent. Your cinematographic abilities are incredible. I could see you being a filmmaker one day. Absolutely incredible quality. Thank you for taking the time to make this so we can all watch and enjoy. You a real one.

I thought i'd never see the day where calling someone a bot in Rocket League is a compliment

Can’t wait! Your stuff got me from d1 to c3, and it’s been fun to see your story/narrative videos get better and better! Cheers.

@christiantaylor1495

Жыл бұрын

He made me derank

@Turner17

Жыл бұрын

Sorry lol not every night’s a good night

@Notriz.

Жыл бұрын

dude same, thanks to him my rotation and decision making are far way better, I was d1 months ago and I couldn't rank up until I watch his videos, now I'm c3

@TuxicToiger

Жыл бұрын

Bro's like the anttvenom of RL

@mathislacroix5177

Жыл бұрын

@@Notriz. if you’re still looking to improve, i suggest watching Oz Rl Analyst’s ssl in one minute series. I went from c3 to gc2 in one week

I really like how you manage to keep me attached to your video. Congrats for being a mutual entertainer for the whole community of the game.

Such a great story teller, 13 minutes felt like a 30 minute short film. The suspenseful music, flickering lights during crucial moments. Awesome work :)

Great stuff as always Wayton 👍

Its insane how fast bots are getting better and better, eventually they might even surpass humans.

@Johnpdf

Жыл бұрын

Well technically they should

@ag99900

Жыл бұрын

they already did tho

@siddhantgarg6899

Жыл бұрын

bots already surpassed humans in some decades we will see terminators irl

@redragon9588

Жыл бұрын

bots can and do surpass humans in almost everything, give it some time and bots will be better at literally everything

@-Believeinyourself-

Жыл бұрын

@@redragon9588reproducing. No matter how intelligent ai becomes they still will not have the ability to have sexual intercourse and create a totally unique life force from it.

I followed this chain of evens from the beginning and it is easily one of the most insane things in gaming history. We were shown that just machine learning can be better at games than most humans within 2 months, while people using it in competitive is scummy for sure, this showing of machine learning and AI is an amazing sign for the future and I hope they are allowed to release more bots in the future.

@SuperJoF

Жыл бұрын

40 years*

@SilverBirchMC

Жыл бұрын

there is no doubt that this kind of thing will happen over and over again as new AI's are created. the unpreparedness is the basis for almost all ethical debates of AI.

@throwaway3645

8 ай бұрын

I remember this being done in Dota 2 back in 2015. The exact same process and method. I’m shocked it took this long for it to happen to rocket league.

Holy, this is so well put together. Big ups Wayton!

Not often am I blown away by the quality of a video, but this video was outstanding. It was incredibly engaging and informative throughout and was structured beautifully. Keep up the great work Wayton!

Your documentaries always explain everything well. Keep up the great work

I love documentaries style videos like this, awesome work

These types of videos are always so interesting to watch, keep it up!

The quality of these documentaries, man. Amazing work of research. Keep it up, Wayton.

Once again had chills. 10/10 videos as always!

congrats on 500k wayton!

this is one of the best made rocket league videos i've seen ever, great job dude

Loving the documentary style vids, keep it up Wayton!

Well deserved 500k Wayton, keep up the great work

Sick video! Love these documentary style RL vids, always a blast to watch

Love these types of videos. Was well worth the wait

So well produced and structured, love it!

fire documentary, keep it up wayton, love to see it!!!

The 500k is much deserved. Great video as always.

One can see the effort you put in. Thanks for the high-quality entertainment.

the effort put in this video is wild. Thanks man

@Savoryy

Жыл бұрын

Fr

CONGRATS ON 500K!!! Keep up the good work wayton

Dude really set the premier for 24 hours from now

*I absolutely LOVE Wayton's documentaries

Keep it up with these documentory worth the wait and great to watch

Actually what an awesome video! Great job Wayton!

Absolutely beautiful vid, and congrats on the half-million sub milestone!

I love rl documentaries man theyre so cool, especially the ones by wayton.

Nice work man this feels like a documentary

Yooooo nice job Wayton 500k subs good job I have been with you since 2021 🎉

Great job! I enjoyed watching this video about such a great game.

Top tier, grade a, chefs kiss production quality from Wayton...again. Keep it up dude

Grats on 500k subs! Let's gooo! Awesome video and content as always.

@tele_gram-Covert_goblue

Жыл бұрын

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"We always knew that it was technically possible to do but the scale of it was not expected at all" - Rolv (This is a terrifying quote for the future of AI considering we're on a MASSIVE AI boom right now in 2023)

You know, I see this and I don't see a short documentary about cheaters in a video game, I see a young man working on his art form. Great stuff. Keep it up, you're opening doors you don't know yet

This RL bot situation shows how people can take one thing which is beneficial and completely flip it upside down and not have anything and ruin the fun for others. We cldve had bots at SSL level which wldve helped us play better, practice with them and see how far can a bot go, but just cuz of few people, we might never see a bot above 2000mmr ever again.... truly sucks. Also wayton, this video was a really high quality video, the editing to the music used, everything was very immersive, this might be one of your best videos yet. Congrats on 500K subs btw

This is a scinematic masterpiece, well done!

Ty for this video, i have seen a bot in my rl game but i didnt know anything about how they came in the game. Ty for enlightening me on the subject👍

Even with all the buzz around the bots, not only have I not ever encountered a cheater, but it seems like phsyonix was able to, almost completely, remove the cheater and lately I've not seen people complaining about it almost at all. Nice job phsy

I love these cinematics and the content ::)

a truly masterpiece of a storytelling. Good job

love your vids man keep up the good work

Congrats on 500k Wayton!

Great video man. I'm mainly been a Counter Strike player over the years. We have had to deal with hacking pretty much the entire time. The game allows just simple hacks to be so powerful, like just think of how powerful seeing through walls would be in an FPS. I feel jealous that your game has had such a clean non hacking experience. All I can say is that the skill level has been raised for how hard is is to create a bot. Now that these bot creators have removed their code and their creation is banned. This won't stop other people with the skill level to creat their own though. My advice to RL would be to prepare for the return of bots, and pay attention to small accounts that may use this. Not everyone that creates hacks will release them like happened this time. You got lucky. Now prepare for more stealthy hacks. Good luck.

Great video! There had been a player using the bot in ranked in June 2022 and streaming it. He was shut down very quickly because both those who watched a lot of Bot Training at that time and those who developed the bots quickly informed Psyonix about it. I wouldn't be surprised the reason Psyonix was able to accurately detect and shut down all bot accounts within just a few weeks was because they had about 6 months of a head start and there was not any fuss about it.

Congratulations on 500k!

Another documentary by Wayton! Well made!

We got to 500k,now let’s go to 1mil,luv ur vids wayton.

I love your videos and keep up the hard work

The production is juicy my guy

Very well done and well researched

Wayton you make such good vids man

Bro you are a genuinely good storyteller. You should get to make stuff like documentaries in rocket league scene like NRG's journey to win s8 or BDS world championship

Your videos get me on the edge of the seat BEST CONTEENT CREATOR EVER!! KEEP IT UP!!

Nice edits loved the vid(:

Great video mate!!

@tele_gram-Covert_goblue

Жыл бұрын

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You are the most cinematic person Ove ever seen and you really live into the things Thats happening

Hi Wayton. I am a big fan of you!!! Also congrats for 500k subs!!!!!

this is just so well made

Great way to make this story entertaining

@tele_gram-Covert_goblue

Жыл бұрын

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Your documentaries remind me of the quality videos Sunless once uploaded, great stuff!

wow this walton guy is a pretty good editor

@kibbycaps

Жыл бұрын

Wayton 🤣

@bruhwhat8586

Жыл бұрын

walter?

This is some peak Wayton editing

A video I haven't watched in 1,5x speed because I didn't want to ruin watch-time for literal top1 quality of content on KZread about Rocket League it felt kinda slow ngl XD but still felt great after watching 8) Your editing skill and use of music is just actually either 'next level' or simply one of the best I might have seen and heard + that's actually the biggest flex ever - not just in game industry xD - to not have "cheating" in report box because your game is literally uncheatable lmao

Love this mate ty

bro this insane quality

Wow, I can tell you spent a lot of time in audio design. Incredible. Makes the story. As a youtuber myself on another acount I know how important that is.

this is just so good man

What an amazing documentary my godness

Great content as always 👌

WOW. That is all I can say. What a banger of a video plontion, I enjoyed every second

I encountered those bots as well in many ranked matches back than. Even got some saved replays of those matches. But it's good they've been able to get this bots out of the game again.

I just wanna say, that within 9 hours you gained 1k subscribers which is crazy to me, your content is mindblowing

Thanks for a short, clear recap.

this minidocumentary was just PERFECT.

wayton pls make more videos with tips you got me from gold to plat!

You know I hate that bots are being abused in-game like this, but at the same time, I can't help but be proud it took a bot the equivalent of 30 years to reach my skill level.

@nineonine9082

Жыл бұрын

Also weird to think you find a loophole in the bot, but if you play it enough, that loophole will stop working, though I mean it could take a year of 24/7 matches.

Once again an amazing video!

When I started playing SFV again I noticed when I played offline again that the highest bot lvl was about as good as a high bronze. They know what's happening but still don't have the capacity a person does to pull off fakes or frame traps. So basically as soon as you learn how to use 1 Char. you can always beat the CPU version because you know more about the limits than the program reading the actual numbers

Wayton Vids the only Rocket League Vids i still watch after i quit

Hugeeee video amazing as always

Your videos are good man

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Жыл бұрын

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