That guy sitting behind your chair is giving me the creeps.

@mpmi7588

3 жыл бұрын

This made me laugh big time. Was is the monkey or what looks like part of a skull head directly in back of Marc?

I...have not heard of any of this. Interesting.

@666hokeypokey

3 жыл бұрын

Lol same!

It's "Moog", not "Moog".

This gent, Marc Doty, really helped me with my Korg Minilogue. A real class act.

presented with the same "problems", with much the same technology available, there is a greater than even chance that two engineers are going to come up with remarkably similar designs independently. it doesn't need someone trawling through patents looking to 'steal' something. Although, I am mindful of Steve Jobs' quote in "Triumph of the nerds" - “We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.”

That isn't a Band Pass Filter at 2:50. It's a model 914 Fixed Filter Bank.

Do squirrels nest just like birds do? That's the only thing I could think of while admiring Marc's hairdo

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

My hair features both

Marcs demo videos are all incredible history/tutorials

Great to have this busted open and brodcast to a wider audience. Makes me curious about some other alleged lawsuits: Moog and Roland over the SH-1000, Roland and Multivox/Firstman, ARP and Octave Plateau. You could probably spend ten episodes on ARP history alone just talking about the crazy Spruce Goose projects like the Centaur and Avatar that ultimately sunk the company.

Well done guys, Looking forward to the next episode and many more.

Im pretty sure it was mentioned elsewhere, that two note duophonic invention/design was actually done by Tom Oberheim (who worked closely with ARP at that time).

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

Tom converted ARP 2600s in that way, but he didn’t invent the technique. I have asked him personally.

@DestroyER82

3 жыл бұрын

@@automaticgainsay Thank you Marc for accurate answer / knowledge. All the best sir!

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

@@DestroyER82 Glad to help, and thank you!

This is a series? I'm subscribing. Oh...... I'm already subscribed. So where's episode 1?

2:52 Confusing to intro the story of the ladder filter with a picture of a fixed filter bank.

It's a good thing no-one patented cups, T-shirts, wheels or shoes. It's a strange and difficult concept that aspects or arrangements of our common reality can be legally owned by individuals. Even our genetic sequences, that evolved over millions of years

The schematics you are using for the ARP filter are actually the 4072 filter which was an original and patented ARP design and not based on the Moog ladder filter. ARP did copy the ladder filter in the 2600 and Axxe, but that had a different schematic.

Awesome take on the history!

Great series!

thank you for the history

1:47 "Mohg and Byoo-kluh" 4:00 What crazy awesome circuit board!

Good content.

0:05 I'm all for the "Titanic Struggle"

You failed to mention, the ladder filter was the ONLY thing Moog patented from his synthesizers. He left everything else in the public domain.

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

He actually patented several things, but the ladder filter was most important. He applied in 1967 and it was granted in 1969. However, as his work with that patent was part of his company, control of it went with the sale of his company to Bill Waytena in 1971. In some ways, he represented Moog Music when he talked to Alan, because the usage of his design affected Moog Music’s production, and no longer he specifically.

These intros remind me of the Yacht Rock videos and I keep thinking it's gonna be a comedy.

oscillator alligator

If there was a movie about these two, Alan R Pearlman would inevitably be played by Jeff Goldblum, but who would play Bob Moog?

@vprice509

3 жыл бұрын

Steve Jobs

@PutItAway101

3 жыл бұрын

@@vprice509 Soooo.... someone who's dead, not an actor, and looks nothing at all like him?

@vprice509

3 жыл бұрын

@@PutItAway101 Was joke, comrade.

@logicalblackman8228

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@PutItAway101 to be fair, Jeff Goldblum at age 69, could not play Alan Pearlman either.

@PutItAway101

2 ай бұрын

I've just noticed Rik Mayall kind of looked like Bob Moog, but would have been completely the wrong type of actor.

R.A.Moog A.R. Pearlman

Lawsuits are totally non, non non, non non non, rock & roll ! 😤

Do the weekend on synth sounds mane

When something is overpriced I call it a moog…..Tesla moog gas prices moog city

Good to see. Although, when claiming the “real story” you should also include the references. That's proper documentary journalism : ) Who really knows exactly what Bob and Alan agreed on.

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

It’s true, but at the same time, proving each assertion through documentation isn’t very entertaining. If you’re in doubt, you can find Alan R. Pearlman’s description of the interaction in interviews including the fantastic one in Bright Sparks. Bob also describes the interaction in several interviews. As for the patents, you can do searches for both Bob’s and ARP’s patents, where you’ll find confirmation. As for documentation of the misconceptions, all you need do is hang out in any synth forum for a bit. :)

@cornerliston

3 жыл бұрын

​@@automaticgainsay It can be both can't it? All you need to do is to put this reference in the video info : ) Since you do have the sources, just write them down. Or you prefer being entertainers and then you should not claim the “real story” but “a story.” Could be fun but a lot more interesting-and I know from watching some of your content that you like being true to facts-when also including the references since this is what sets the higher level of true to fact information. Anything else is just an opinion and we have plenty of that on KZread already. Set the bar at the right level instead : )

I smell.....*sniffs the air*......hipsters.

To be relistic, The two big guns Keith Emerson and Rick Wakman both used Moog in the 70s. Keith E was a moot user throughout his life. Not sure about rick Wakman who seems to be more into pianos and organs .

When Bob Moog is introduced as Bob "Mewg", he seems happy with it. So I'm thinking that's the right pronunciation. I can't find a clip of him personally saying "Mewg", on short notice. But there's good reason to think it's not "M-oh-g".

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

No, he wasn’t. It certainly happened a lot, but that wasn’t what he wanted, and he was actually quite vocal about it. Polite, but vocal.

The Buchla mispronunciation is killing me.

@Serioko

3 жыл бұрын

Decided to balance my negative comment with a positive one. Really interesting piece of history here. Thanks for clearing up the narrative!

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

You’d better contact Buchla to register a complaint! There is a General Inquiries support function on their website that will undoubtedly connect you with the right person to talk to!

@email3575

Жыл бұрын

no one cares except a handful of some geekier synth nerds, and people have mispronounced mewg moahg too forever who is far more prominent in profile. One should be more concerned with the mispronounced EEEpoxy vs ep-poxy since those are not names, but whatever, who cares, great video

So in other words Moog was a Democrat - hypocritically accusing others of what he did himself.

Am I the only one who cringes on the mispronunciations of Don’s last name? Dead giveaway she is reading a script and not familiar with the subject matter.

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

One of us works at Buchla, and knows how Don suggested his name was pronounced. But also did not correct people.

@Vitaphone

3 жыл бұрын

@@automaticgainsay Marc, are you implying that Don’s name was secretly pronounced BUKE and not BOO? Or that simply you did not correct?

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vitaphone I was told by someone close to Don that Don once suggested that it was pronounced “BOOK-luh,” (as in “book.”) but it wasn’t an assertion, and he didn’t correct anyone. A number of people who were close to him pronounce it the way I do. As a person who is very cognizant of the pronunciations of the names of synth icons (Moog and Bode, for example), I have specifically chosen the pronunciation I use. As a person who actually works for Buchla, has had dinner at Don’s house, and as a person who works professionally as one of the few synthesizer historians, I don’t have a lot of patience for facile mischaracterizations on the Internet.

@Vitaphone

3 жыл бұрын

@@automaticgainsay I guess I’m not seeing a disagreement here... everyone I know into Buchla synths including someone whom has/is unofficially/officially worked and for Buchla has pronounced it the way you do.... not the way it is pronounced in the video... i’ve never met anyone who said it this way... and not known it to be a Moog/Mewg issue. I’m well aware of your employment and your transition (or shall we say opening up to ) west coast synthesis. I’m a fan and a champion of the term Variophonic 😉

@Genshi

3 жыл бұрын

@@Vitaphone it's called a dialect. Different parts of the U.S. have different dialects (like in most countries) which is why in Los Angeles you will hear someone say "Park the Car in the Garage" but in Boston it will sound like "Pawk the Caw in the Garaag".

Hey Reverb, please don't subject us to Mark Doty ever again. This is an interesting vid, but he makes me feel like I need a bath or 3.

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

Only three? I gotta up my game!

@thomastunezz9459

3 жыл бұрын

Sam, show some respect for Mark. He is an absolute legend in the Synth World. He has forgotten more than you will ever learn about synths.

E-poxy. Not ePOXy; E-poxy.

So no one involved with this production knows how to pronounce "epoxy"? Hint: it's not like "e-mail/email." Also, this guy's hair...

@geometricalshapes4464

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up.

@automaticgainsay

3 жыл бұрын

His hair was shaped with epoxy pronounced incorrectly