The Steiner VCF (by Nyle Steiner) was a very unique design. He designed a "multimode" filter using diodes as voltage controlled resistors. He designed it with three inputs, low pass, high pass, and band pass, with one output rather than the more typical one input with three outputs. The unique feedback gave it an edge not found in the other filters. When I was talking to Nyle about it, he explained he didn't want to just copy an existing filter topology. He wanted something unique, and he certainly did it!

That warm, rich, sound quality of the Moog, 24db, low-pass always and to this still remains my absolute favorite. It was Wendy Carlos’s SOB that did that to me as a grade school child. I could not get enough of it from that point forward which start my on a life-long love of all synthesizers and synthesized music.

@JKVisFX

Жыл бұрын

@j s Sorry dude, but you are just wrong. She may have once been a man but, after her sex change operation and hormonal treatments, she indeed became a woman complete with female genitalia. I'm sorry your small-mindedness can't see past your preconceived notions of what makes a person male or female, or anything else for that matter, but facts are facts: she is now female.

@JKVisFX

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, how so?

Legends like Rossum are still innovating. Great presentation.

I didn’t know how much I needed this, but I needed this! Thank you!

As much as I fell in love with the ms20 filter, nothing compares to the warmth and versatility of the moog ladder filter. Between the moogerfooger and grandma and werkstatt, I love combining all of them to create wild filter combos

@daemonicflame

2 жыл бұрын

Apart from the fact that the low end drops off hard when you start turning up the resonance

@Magnus_Loov

9 күн бұрын

@@daemonicflame I have always found it strange that the Mini Moog is seen as "The Bass synth" when in fact it drops of terribly when you crank up the resonance. I think it is more the 3 fat sounding VCOs when doing non resonant stuff is what is the draw. I would o as far as to say that Moog is the most overrated synth brand when it comes to price/performance.

I love the Korg has always had its own unique sound different from the rest!

Exactly the content we need!

This was absolutely great. Thank you!

Good Stuff! However, Ya left out Roland's IR3109 VCF.

This is a beautiful and compelling document right here.

Wonderful video!

Lovely vid Ty 👊🏻👏🏻👍

hi why did you skip Roland the 303 filter very unique and hard to imitate.Or how about the juno6 filter the best filter implementation on an analog poly.

Nice!!! Thanks!

I had a Minimoog and now have a ROLAND SE 02. A lot of people rave about the Moog filter, but I definitely prefer filters implemented in synths by Oberheim, ARP, Korg, and Roland, over the Moog sound. At this point, I wish synth manufacturers would give us synths with at least 3 filters.

The ARP Omni is one of my all-time favorite synths.

Those are all great for sure but at the moment i'm deep in love with Roland filters, their very "liquid" quality that other brands don't have (or at least not the same). Interesting video anyway !

Informative

Love my vintage Mini's, low pass ladder filter.!!!. You can always tell the classic Moog sound.!!!

I believe Moog patented ONLY his ladder filter. Everything else he wanted to leave unpatented for others to innovate.

@ParanormalLight

Жыл бұрын

It's too bad he didn't have the foresight to patent the "pitch and Mod wheels" too. He could have made a ton of money from that.

Super 👌

LOVE

God the warmth and thickness of that moog filter is insane.

Does the voyager really have the same ladder filter? If so, why does it sound.....less pleasing? (Putting it mildly)

No mention of the Buchla function filters?

Doesn’t the MS-20 technically have 3 filters when factoring in the ESP band pass filters? Either way, lovely video!

@josephwright5921

2 ай бұрын

I think they did have three different filters on the various MS 20s over the years. I believe the Behringer clone gives you all three in one unit.

The Oberheim sounds alot like "Dance of the Cosmo Alien" by Sun Ra. Does anyone know if thats what he used on that track?

@logicalblackman8228

Ай бұрын

I’m guessing it was a Minimoog model B. Bob Moog lent him one (and never got it back), while the Minis were still in the testing phase. So, it was a Model B, not the vaunted Model D.

@christopher_ecclestone

Ай бұрын

@@logicalblackman8228 Thanks for the info. I recently read about the Model B that Bob Moog lent or gave him. Apparently, Sun Ra pawned it, but the pawn shop burnt down. So that was the end of that one! The song and album I'm talking about is from 1978, so I think that might be too late for the Model B.

@logicalblackman8228

Ай бұрын

@@christopher_ecclestone Burned down?Geez, that’s TERRIBLE!!!! Yeah, the Model D was well into production by 78, and, of course, many other synths, as well. Sorry, I couldn’t be of more help, but thanks for that info about the Pawn Shop. I gotta look into that more.

@christopher_ecclestone

Ай бұрын

@@logicalblackman8228 No problem. Thanks for replying. If memory serves, I think I might have read about that in Electronic Sound magazine. There was an Issue where the main feature was about the 50th anniversary of the Mini Moog. I'm sure Google knows too!

The Polivoks…

@johngorgis

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it similar to the ms20?

Kurtzweil ?

The WASP filter designed by Chris Hugget and used in the Electronic Dream Plant (EDP) Wasp Synth. This design is also available in Doepfer's A-124 Eurorack module.

@josephwright5921

2 ай бұрын

I really like Wasp filter that I have in my clone.

And Prophet 5?

Mass Effect

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Moog ladder is the most boring filter of them all, but it is good for muffled, pillowy sounds

@henrikstolpe

2 жыл бұрын

Its very bright when open, on a vintage moog. Many never ones and clones, are muffled though. But you need to compare a good implementation. The original minimoog is one of the brightest synths ever, its crystal clear. Same with the Prodigy. The Voyager and Little Phatty however, are muffled.

@77advanced

2 жыл бұрын

​@@henrikstolpe it is not about brightness, but about holding a resonance, arp 2600 and rolands filters are much more tasty at high resonances, they are make more bell sound rather than moog's whistle. That's why when using moogs you are kind of a forced to stick with low resonance pillowy style, while other filters push you to use the whole spectrum.

@henrikstolpe

2 жыл бұрын

@@77advanced I agree that for instance the juno 6/60 filter has a very sweet resonance but the minimoog also has an amazing warm moving sheen, very far from a whistle that other moogs have, as its really overdriven. But I do understand what you are getting at, I usually use other filters than the moog as they almost always (the mini is different) have more interesting resonance. Polivoks is my favourite filter actually ;) And I love the SH-101 implementation of the Roland chip, the WASP filter is another favourite, and of course the Korg MS-10/20 LP!

@josephwright5921

2 ай бұрын

@@henrikstolpeI had an original Minimoog and didn’t really care for the sound compared to sound of synths by ARP, Roland, Korg and Oberheim. I guess it all comes down to a matter of taste. I don’t really care for the way Moog’s sit in a mix or for their postmodern woke marketing.

@hakonberg8003

6 күн бұрын

That was a fairly simplistic analysis 😂

The current KZread obsession of facing the wrong camera makes me stop and go elsewhere. Yeah. We can see that you've got two cameras. Congratulations. How about learning to use them properly ?

@josephwright5921

2 ай бұрын

Ouch

@chaosme1ster

Ай бұрын

This!

Moog has the most overrated filter of all time. It drops the bass like cracy when turning up the resonance and is really, really bad for resonant bass sounds!

@hakonberg8003

6 күн бұрын

Really bad for bass sounds, eh? 😂 impressive analysis

@Magnus_Loov

6 күн бұрын

@@hakonberg8003 Read it again! "Really bad for RESONANT bass sounds" is what I wrote. That the Moog ladder filter loses bottom end and total volume is a known fact! Oberheim SEM-filters does much better in this respect! If you wan that really classic Synth bass with the resonance turned up, the Moog filter is not the way to go! Without resonance it can be really great though! The Arp 2600 also have the ability to use an extra sine wave to fiil out the bottom end when resonance is turned up.

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