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@matsv201
6 ай бұрын
Its worth saying that Volvo recycle the engine in the 90s (while a smaler version) A truck, a bus and a car. All hybrids.
@manowar8595
6 ай бұрын
fallout 4 trucks
@thedoctor2102
6 ай бұрын
Grab the wheel for me, I need to take a nice long shit.
@PiDsPagePrototypes
6 ай бұрын
No link to the Drive article, per the mention at the end of the video?
@NixxNikoli
6 ай бұрын
Gotta work on your audio levels dude. Every different piece of music has me fiddling with the volume controls to not wake my family
The Chrysler Turbine car had the same problem. The main disadvantages they have over piston engines are lower efficiency at lower RPM, and lower responsiveness to throttle changes. Gas turbines really prefer to run at a constant speed, so they make more sense for aircraft, ships, and stationary power systems. For long distance trucking, they make sense, but not local. Then the oil crisis in the 70s negated their economic advantage. There were also attempts to do gas turbine trains in the 60s. The UAC Turbo Train was pretty bananas.
@HesmiyuMC
6 ай бұрын
I recently saw Ariel's supercar has a turbine charged electric engine
@popuptoaster
6 ай бұрын
@@HesmiyuMC That's the sensible way to use them as a power source for an electric motor, generally speaking a gas turbine can run on all sorts of fuels, from LPG to bio fuels if the fuel is clean and cheap they may be abetter option for large vehicles that need long range without the extra weight of massive batteries.
@gteixeira
6 ай бұрын
Electric motors are the inverse, they respond well to throttle changes, but not so efficient in highway speeds. They would be great on hybrid configurations.
@UR_REAL_FBI_AGENT
6 ай бұрын
Would it be possible to put both, diesel for low speeds and the turbine for fast and long speeds?
@gteixeira
6 ай бұрын
@@UR_REAL_FBI_AGENT Why not just a regular hybrid then? Saves the whole transmission and dual engine for a much more compact configuration.
The amount of engineering breakthroughs we avoid in the past is truly a frustrating thing
@JustmeSean1971
6 ай бұрын
It's because of cost and it has flaws
@PRH123
6 ай бұрын
It was very fuel in-efficient, and the acquisition cost would have been very high if put into production... ...and the exhaust couldn't meet future emissions requirements...
@hasanx8066
6 ай бұрын
Not ignored. Suppressed.
@PRH123
6 ай бұрын
@@hasanx8066 why would a truck be suppressed…
@hasanx8066
6 ай бұрын
@@PRH123Profit control and greed for the most part. Doing a little research on the US patent office and suppressed tech may help you understand a little more. It was an Oh shyt moment for me personally
I never thought I'd ever see a video on one of these. When my grandpa was apart of the team developing them he had some absolutely insane stories as to what these rigs were capable of. Thank you for this video, it's cool to see something that wasn't really talked about that my grandpa did get the time of day.
@MrTaxiRob
6 ай бұрын
probably very capable... of chugging gas and ejecting torque converters through the bellhousing
@chefscorner7063
6 ай бұрын
How about sharing some of the stories your grandfather told you. I'd definitely be interested in reading them.✌️
A video on the Chevy sounds great. These are looking like baby Aussie land trains.
@alexander1485
6 ай бұрын
In Nevada and maybe some other western states, they are "triples" trucks with 3 trailers, most tho are "double trucks" (2 trailers)
@f.u.m.o.5669
2 ай бұрын
@@alexander1485 *Western states minus the west coast
Fun fact. At 3:08 is not a steamboat at all. That's Russian river cruise ship "Surgeon Razumovsky" filmed from top deck of Hydrofoil ship "Rocket" )
This looks like the "Mammoth Truck" in Speed Racer
from Wikipedia: Disadvantages include: Core engine costs can be high due to use of exotic materials. Less efficient than reciprocating engines at idle speed. Longer startup than reciprocating engines. Less responsive to changes in power demand compared with reciprocating engines. Characteristic whine can be hard to suppress. From me: the only way they'd be worthwhile is if they were extremely compact, and arranged in a turbine-electric drive configuration. Otherwise you'd be torching trough torque converters or clutches left and right. Reliability and efficiency are the top two concerns for operators, so that's that.
@matsv201
6 ай бұрын
The first drawback was expected to be reduced with mass production. The other was planed with trailer shifting.That is that a local delivery company put out two trailer for pick up and the big truck just went and pick up. Worth saying that Volvo made a car, a truck and a bus with the same type of engine in the 90s. The Volvo one was considerably smaller at 40 respectively 100hp and paired with a hybrid power train. Those are 3 heck of a 90s futuristic looking vehicle. I have sat in the truck my self and it had tons of stuff we really only seen the last couple of years. It was also... a bit to much of cheap plastic.
@mystame
6 ай бұрын
it always surprised me that turbine wasn't used for base line energy generation, with excess being put into battery or capacitor storage for when higher energy demand was needed like pulling away
@pootispiker2866
6 ай бұрын
@@mystameThe only worthwhile batteries that you had available back then were lead-acid and those suck for providing traction power
@techman8817
6 ай бұрын
Yep, bigger is better for turbine efficiency. Needs to be large to put distance between very hot working gas and the turbine components. Needs to be like 10 megawatts before a turbine even starts to make sense, and trucks are maybe 0.2 megawatts.
@matsv201
6 ай бұрын
@@techman8817 That is not really true. The gas-turbine in the truck would actually have better efficiency than one in a modern gas-turbine power plant. The truck one would have about 40% efficiency and a modern power plant have about 37% efficiency. The reason for that is that the gas-turbine in the truck have heat recovery. There is grid connected gasturbines that have heat recovery as well, but they are a bit fidely and are usually just used for base load. The primary advantage of grid connected gas turbines is that they run on CNG and not refined fuel. CNG is considerably cheaper (well most of the time) 700hp would be 0.522MW. Its not hard to convert, just multiply by one number.
"The truck of the future even had a incinerator toliet...". In the driver's seat? Boy, that IS convenient!
@golf-n-guns
6 ай бұрын
😂 Imagining a fat, hairy truck driver sitting pantless behind the wheel while sitting on a toilet. 🚽
@jbj27406
6 ай бұрын
@@golf-n-guns Yeah, that image popped into my mind and I couldn't help but blurt it out. I actually laughed at it myself. Just about as you described. Apologies as needed.
@PrimePrius
5 ай бұрын
Truck drivers are all fat people but they are cool since they let me merge on the highway.
He gave proper credit to The Drive and shows his appreciation of their journalism You sir are a gentleman and a scholar
@Sponge1310
6 ай бұрын
And then doesn’t post the link to the article in the description like he says in the video… 😬
The Mammoth Car from Speed Racer.
@modelermark172
6 ай бұрын
My thoughts, exactly! As a sidebar, an iconic feature of the Mammoth Car was the spine-chilling sound it would make every so often; especially when the headlight array was turned on. At first I thought it was a horn. My 'retcon' theory is that this was the sound of an auxiliary power unit (APU) cutting-in when there was a sudden demand for extra power.
@Alcorelli1
6 ай бұрын
I remember being actually scared of that Mammoth Car and its sound when I was a kid in the 60's.
4 meters high, 30 meters long, cab over, 700hp, B+A road train, 4 way air ride. I think someone invented the Nordic truck. Its worth saying that the turbine in the big red was not a normal turbine, but a heat recovery turbine. In the early 90s, Volvo got a license for the engine and produced a smaller version for a passenger car with a hybrid power train. Later they also build a bus and a truck with the same type (but up sized) engine. They are known as the volvo ECC, ECT and ECB. Those was quite modern for the time with Serial hybrid recuperating gasturbine engine,l battery, and syncronic electrical motor, full LCD display... and.. generally.. really 90s. A lot of those things would not be seen for a other 15 years. What killed the concepts was that they used Nicad battery and mechanical polarity shifter. The gas turbine also had a shorter lifespan than expected. And while the gas turbine was pretty efficient, and the hybrid system removed the low speed inefficency. The full power train was not that efficient.
@MrTaxiRob
6 ай бұрын
a turbine-electric drive train can surely make sense for some applications, but a mechanical interface doesn't.
@matsv201
6 ай бұрын
@@MrTaxiRob the advantage of the electic interface was that it could change powet rapidly. The downside is the very low efficency. What would probobly be the best would be a serial-parralel drive train
OH MY GOD FINALLY!!! I'm a major nerd for jet turbine powered road vehicles, and have a Discord server dedicated to researching them and educating people about them, this is definitely gonna be linked in there.
Jay Leno has a jet bike and a jet car. He says the faster u go the more power it makes. His car blew out the windows it went so fast. Nobody has the balls to top out his jet bike.
@JoJoJoker
6 ай бұрын
Jay has TWO jet cars and a jet bike:-) He once melted the bumper of a tailgater.
I love the idea of a turbine truck. I mean, you can dispose of your alcoholic beverage without anyone seeing AND get a horsepower boost!
Kenworth and Mack also made their own gas turbine trucks that had to be equipped with very big exhaust.
@merafirewing6591
6 ай бұрын
What about Peterbuilt?
Every time I see a semi on the road I think about how much cooler Australias land trains look. I watch almost all of your videos and you have some content that truelly blows me away. This is one of the most grounded concepts you have made content for, and I don't know if that's why it is one of my favorites, but it is one of my favorites. I have seen it on other channels but I can't get enough of this concept and don't know why turbine trucks aren't being manufactured. I understand teh first generation didn;t do as well in mountanous terrean but plenty of places aren't mountonous. I think one of the main reasons is we didn't set up for land trains in the U.S., because I do believe you can built cities/states/regions/nations/worlds for land train logistics, and it seems the concept of land-trains would have been used in turbine trucking. If they created an engine for trucks (not armored vehicles) it would have worked better, and while back then there were less options in modern times the turbine could kick in only at higher speeds...
@shaun469
6 ай бұрын
That not a big truck here. Unless its 90ton metric its small. Even 90 ton is a small road train.
@railtrolley
6 ай бұрын
A twin trailer like this is common in Brisbane. Called an A Double. Usually more wheels though: both trailers and the converter dolly having 3 axles. A regular combination is 2 skeleton trailers leaving the port with two 40' containers on.
@cliffwoodbury5319
6 ай бұрын
@@railtrolley If I go to Australia one thing I will be doing is looking for local spots for truck spotting so I can get some cool pictures because I have seen videos of trucks in Australia with 4 and I think even 5 trailers behind them (some of them are far smaller than normal trailer) because I think it is one of the coolest looking thing. Logistics has always interested me and I have thought to myself how i believe Austrailia builds to allow for easy access for trucking land trains, being it would be pivital for trucks that long to have easy access to and form highways but to actually see infrastructure would be cool.
@unnamedchannel1237
6 ай бұрын
Saftey rope ran out of length trying to climb this wall
@matthewcaughey8898
6 ай бұрын
The primary reason you don’t see them in America is road weight limits. Most highways are limited to 80,000 pounds max weight. The heaviest loads are triaxle semi trailers that can take up to 135,000 points ( including the truck weight ). Having to possibly maneuver in tight confines has basically ensured road trains can’t function in the us
Glad to see a quick touch on Rover history for the jet engines!
This truck was 30 years ahead of its time.
A video on the Chevy turbine truck would be very cool, but remember, its use is in the US, which drives on the right-hand side of the road.
The Federal government was paying Ford, GM, and Chrysler to develop vehicles, including this big Turbine Truck. A family member worked in the labs at Ford developing this technology. He says that turbines never add any sense - they’re efficient when run at a constant speed - and they were difficult to make to pass upcoming smog regulations.
It'd be cool to see either of these trucks on Jay Lenos Garage
Glad to see that you have it driving on the left hand side of the road. Not sure if Ford had this intention.
@ak9989
6 ай бұрын
I know huh😂
@jur4x
6 ай бұрын
I guess, it is really difficult to imagine B-double on the right side of the road
I drinked cranberry juice
@gabrielb9010
6 ай бұрын
How was it?
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
6 ай бұрын
Tryina get that THC out of your system?
@nufiya999
6 ай бұрын
And how
@solastorm7
6 ай бұрын
stood hydrated!
@oiytd5wugho
6 ай бұрын
red poop
I was four years old at the worlds fair and remember this truck and the Mustang, and the GM dinosaurs pavilion where you rode inside a convertible Chevy car! Also the jet pack demo, the giant Firestone was tire Ferris wheel, the monorail and Disney’s It’s A Small World!! So many cool futuristic things!
So its about twice the size of a regular truck but for comparision has a fuel consumption of about 4x of a modern truck. Meaning fuel economy would be about half.
3:02 looks like the Mammoth Car from Speed Racer
Yes please, we want to see the GM version of the Big Red.
The tractor unit still exists... being restored but owned by a private person who hasnt officially shown it to the public... PS- most "jet" cars (aside from Bonneville Salt Flat record breakers) are helicopter turbine powered and not jet powered.
Not JET-powered. Turbine-powered. Jet propulsion refers to any kind of propulsion based on the reactive force to the jet exhaust from any engine, be it a turbojet, a ramjet or a scramjet. Technically even a rocket is jet-powered, although the term is usually only applied to propulsion relying on atmospheric air to produce hot and fast exhaust gas. Turbine engines rely on the rotary motion generated by a gas expansion inside a turbine, normally either from combustion gasses or pressurized steam. That truck is no more Jet-powered than a helicopter, an Iowa-class battleship or a nuclear power plant, even though all of those are turbine-driven.
Hearing about this, I can’t help but think of the Steinwinter Supercargo concept. Not the same type of truck but it looks like an 80s supercar and it’s currently rotting in some parking lot waiting to be restored
YES! PLEASE make a video on the Chevy Gas Turbine truck! Love your incredibly well made, informative and FUN VIDEOS!
@DTD110865
6 ай бұрын
By all means. And remember when you use the 3-D software to make an American truck on an American road, we drive on the right.
Inspiration for the Mammoth Car from Speed Racer?
Big Yes for the Chevy turbine truck vid please! Many of us of a certain age owned Tonka toy trucks that were clearly based on it 🙂
Yeah boi, I can see myself commuting to work in my freedom fortress
Incinerator toilets has been in place since decades
It makes my knees weak its beautiful its revolutionary ITS A BIG TRUCK
I'm old enough to remember these cars and trucks "of the future" as a child. As a grownup, now an aviation writer, it finally struck me how loud our streets would have been with all these turbojet- powered vehicles on them. Think your neighborhood street and add the sound effects of, say, the active runway at Laguardia Airport.
for a gas turbine to be efficient it needs to be running at max. for an abrams tank thats needed a lot but while for a lorry the efficiency depends on the drive. The concept was outdated given that p2p shipping was done often so being able to be efficient in traffic was important.
Always amazing that ideas that have problems so obvious that they can be explained in short youtube videos, but still get companies willing to invest huge money into these projects.
That “top gear” scene is from the grand tour
Yes I'd love a video on the Chevy gas turbine truck!
I need this in ATS/ETS2
The Mammoth Car from Speed Racer!
You had the truck driving in the left lane in some clips. Goes with your accent. Lol. Great video.
GM did some busses like this that went on tour in the 50's or 60's.
For those Speed Racer fans from the 60’s cartoon, this truck looks a lot like the “Mammoth Car”.
I've heard about this Lorry before
Props to the Designer be makin this
@FoundAndExplained
6 ай бұрын
I love the headlights
I can't get all happy about futuristic incinerator toilets ever since my trust was shaken by the lies of the giant walking army robots.
British Leyland also developed a gas turbine truck in the 60's, going as far as to have a small fleet of them out for real world testing.
Big Red’s 2 trailers are still missing and Holman Moody did in fact use big red, repainted blue and using a ford big block V8 in place of the borked turbine
Finally ❤ l loved these cars and trucks. These machines deserve videos, the gas turbine and nuclear cars too
280 gallon fuel tank, 600 mile range. Rounding a little that's 2 miles per gallon, no wonder no one was interested.
That truck design from the thumbnail looks like from the 60s 😂
could work as the leader of the Autobots.
I know it's a US made video, but for those who prefer metric and don't want to convert in their head/stop the video every time: 13 ft = ~4 m (height) 96 ft = ~29.2 m (length) 100000 lbs = ~45.3 t (weight) 70 mph = ~112.5 km/h (speed) 955 ft-lb = ~1295 Nm (torque) 280 US gallons = ~1060 liters (fuel tank volume) 600 mi = ~965 km (range) *edited weight
@jur4x
6 ай бұрын
His accent sound more like Australian. And that makes it even weirder why he refers to this truck as "huge"
@matsv201
6 ай бұрын
"100000 lbs = ~81.6 t (weight)" Sounds like that would not be legal on american roads with only 9 axels. Apart from that, its a pretty standard truck over hear today. The range is a tad short.
@petertakacs8187
6 ай бұрын
@@matsv201 You're right, my bad! It's ~45 t, thanks for noticing!
@matsv201
6 ай бұрын
@@petertakacs8187 that sounds more legal, but.. now its unredonable light for a B-A truck and trailer.
I love you bro, ill never stop watching your content
The British done it first and ended the Gas Turbine project era with a masterpiece. When Ford and GM just built one or some prototypes, Leyland Trucks and Buses built 12 prototype that went to some companies to test drive it and of course under BL's warranty. Of course, with other GT projects in this world, it ends completely. The same thing between Ford, Chevrolet, Leyland, and other GT truck experimentist, is that it is a semi-truck rather than a standard rigid-truck. This is because a rigid-truck drives a lot in start stoping condition in cities or town delivering supply stuff. Semi-truck in the other hand, carry a trailer that has loads for long distance travel between cities or towns. The disadvantage of GT is, low torque and in low vehicle speed, it is thirsty. So, it is found only in tractor head variant (semi-truck for USA) that hauls freight long distances. But with nowadays ever advancing GT technology, probably, there will be a second coming.
definitely want to see about the chevy.
Glorious! Yes, would love to see a video about the Chevrolet equivalent.
@found and explained, Can you imagine if these days in 2024 that semi trucks had a fuel efficient gas turbine that can use any kind of fuel from gasoline, aviation fuel/ AVGAS, high proof alcohol liquor, like everclear 190 proof or maybe diesel
Yes you should do the "Chevy' heavy as well :)
Hmm, is this the truck from Speed Racer?
@merafirewing6591
6 ай бұрын
It looks like it would be right at home in a Speed Racer show or even a movie.
Thank's for saúch a great video and story!!! And, Yes, of course I want to hear more about the rival of this big Ford from Chevy! Thank's for your tremendous job)
A Turbo Titan video would be a delight!
As a truck driver about 60 years after this truck, still waiting for the breakthroughs that bring toliets back
In the end the US did kind of use the idea since they replaced a diesel piston engine with a turboshaft in the Abrams tanks. Sad to see that it hasn't seen civilian use though
pls do the chevy! i remember it as a footnote from a book about "the history of trucks"
If this existed - I'd quit my job, get the license - and switch careers...
Video on the Chevy please
Would LOVE to see a Video on the Chevrolet Truck ❤❤
The whole world of gas-turbine cars, trucks and locomotives is mental and definitely worth a whole series of videos.
But what was the point? When it comes to logistics there is simply no beating trains for economical efficient long distance freight, just build out the rail infrastructure.
I can’t believe it just occurred to me. This is the mammoth car from speed racer!
Where is the original article that is supposed to be in the description mentioned at 12:40?
Sweet!!! Man, this should bring back with modifications!!!
Turbine engines on the surface seem ideal, but the reality is that they are thermodynamically inefficient compared to piston diesels, and while they have fantastic power to weight ratios, they operate on the Brayton cycle instead of the Otto cycle, in which air is accelerated instead of being pressurized. Air does not like being accelerated; When this happens, the faster you go the more drag you get. In fact, to go from 30 mph in your car to 60 mph, you not only double your speed, but you quadruple your air drag, so it operates on the square. Turbine engines operate at upwards of 10,000 to 60,000 rpm, and the dozens of blades in these are all generating aerodynamic drag at incredible speeds. The gases in a gas turbine are moving well above mach one, and this is why they are not used in road vehicles. Aircraft however can use them quite well because pilots [Me, I fly 767's for a tiny cargo airline] take them up to the maximum altitude that the wing will stand, because the thin air at 39,000 feet reduces that drag down to minimum. This is a BIG DEAL FOLKS! Turbines absolutely love thin cold air! To put that in perspective, I was flying a load of 50,000 pounds of freight from Memphis to Los Angeles, and at that altitude we were burning 8000 pounds per hour, or about 1200 gallons per hour/20 gallons per minute at a speed of 550 mph over the ground. The airplane weighs 181,000 pounds, it is the size of a strip mall, and we had upwards of 35,000 pounds of fuel [6.7 pounds per gallon of Jet A], so we weighed 276,000 pounds at the time. Those fuel use numbers seem pretty high, until you consider that we take about 3.5 hours to get from Memphis to LAX. A truck can take upwards of 3.5 days to do the same thing....
AMERICAN LaFRANCE actually built 2 pumpers with gas turbine engines in the early 1960’s.After about 2 years or so, they were converted back to gasoline engines. Showed promise but not quite. Too bad such expeditions aren’t held anymore. I love how the future was equipped with cast spoke wheels. I thought those type of wheels were neat but disc wheels were obviously the better design for buses and trucks.
Yes, please do the Chevy gas turbine truck video, if you haven't already.
You already know we want to see the GM version.
Please do a video on the Chevy!! It's so interesting to look back on companies pushing the envelope. The fundamental cab design and the way you enter Ford seem to be copied by the Tesla truck. A little ahead of its time, perhaps?
These " ShowCase " projectz can be appreciated as Masterpiecez of the FineArt of Our Industrial Age - like most artist's creations - Timing determines their innovation's importance to society & culture !🇨🇦
You should cover the other turbine engined vehicles too, including the Chrysler Turbine and the Toyota Turbine Car (v=hyAgIxaF7Q8), which Toyota stubbornly pursued well into the 80s. In fact, Toyota was a bit too ahead of the time; attempting a turbine-electric hybrid concept which failed only because the motors were too inefficient and heavy, and their later GTV prototype which omitted the electric system in favor of a more similar transmission system as the Chrysler Turbine. It'd be neat to see a modern take on a turbine-electric hybrid vehicle that isn't a military one.
You should look at Steinwinter supercargo 20.40. It's German concept of futuristic truck from 80' that ended in prototype stage. It's not that crazy like Big Red, because it doesn't have turbine engine, but it's very, very unique.
The main advantage of gas-turbines over piston engines, I believe, is their power to weight ratio. This is why they are important in aircraft, including helicopters, but have never got much traction in road vehicles.
@weldonwin
6 ай бұрын
It's also why they are used in modern tanks like Abrams
The real question is actually “why *wouldn’t* you stick a jet turbine in a car?”
1964: Ford Gas Turbine Truck 2023: Tesla Cybertruck Oh how far we've fallen..
Can you do a video on how the incinerator toilet eventually was superseded by trucker bombs?
That Rover Jet Car has the nose of a current Bentley Continental GT. Cool styling.❤
When me and the boys need to smuggle hundreds of tons of gold out of the country:
Oh stars, yes please do a video on the Chevy turbine truck! 😁 It's a shame they never made more fuel efficient turbines to act as a hybrid power plant to charge up an electric powertrain. 🤔
I'd liked to see some more internal pictures, and some explanation about the "0g chair" and other stuff. :/
I seen that truck in 1957.
I LOVE the incinerator toilet 😂
I definitely want to see a Video on the Chevy Turbine Truck!!
Please give us meters and kilograms too, maybe as a text. I like your videos, keep on! And yes, please make one about the chevy truck.
I really hope that the guy restoring Big Red eventually takes it out for the public to see. Hes keeping it secret so ford doesnt come after him and crush it (like the few holdouts that still have GM EV1s). Its a terrible policy but technically people dont own them. The companies do.
1:56 jet engines have much more moving parts than piston engines. Maybe even by an order of magnitude
The Chrysler Turbine was able to run on many types of fuel including tequila & Chanel #5 perfume