The trick that made animation realistic

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Rotoscoping changed animation forever. This is how.
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One breakthrough made animation look natural. And it involved a clown dancing on a roof.
In this episode of Vox Almanac, Vox’s Phil Edwards explores the beginning of rotoscoping, a technique animators can use to create realistic motion. Invented by Max Fleischer of Fleischer Studios (and echoed and practiced by many others), it involves taking filmed footage and using it as a traceable model for animation. The results are fluid and natural in a way animation had never been before.
As the above video shows, it started with Max’s brother Dave dancing on a roof in a clown costume. Footage of that was then used to model the classic Koko the Clown cartoons, which formed the basis for many Fleischer Studios films. Today, animators still use techniques like rotoscoping to turn real movement into animation.
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  • @Vox
    @Vox4 жыл бұрын

    If you want to learn more about early animation, check out this video about the delightfully weird origins of stop motion. kzread.info/dash/bejne/amR3rbaIms3AdrQ.html

  • @thanos4959

    @thanos4959

    4 жыл бұрын

    Vox ok

  • @tyleroliveira10

    @tyleroliveira10

    4 жыл бұрын

    *stocks*

  • @winpuss

    @winpuss

    4 жыл бұрын

    I want to know more about ub iwerks

  • @jascrandom9855

    @jascrandom9855

    4 жыл бұрын

    Now you have to talk about Sakuga Animation.

  • @darknessviking

    @darknessviking

    4 жыл бұрын

    wow im almost 40 year old and i just learned something, thanx dude

  • @naughtiusmaximus789
    @naughtiusmaximus7894 жыл бұрын

    Imagine *Walt Disney* coming up with Rotoscoping, and the patent would've NEVER EXPIRED.

  • @wylnd

    @wylnd

    4 жыл бұрын

    We have screens now :D

  • @chrismarinohardin9929

    @chrismarinohardin9929

    4 жыл бұрын

    Naughtius Maximus you are mixing up copyrights and patents. Disney has lobbied up copyrights forever, not invention patents.

  • @RogerioPereiradaSilva77

    @RogerioPereiradaSilva77

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chrismarinohardin9929 Nope, the OP is right. Both patents and copyrights are different sides of the same coin; one to protect inventions and the other to protect artistic creations, so to speak, but that can all be summed up as intelectual property and we all know very well how Disney tends to treat its IP. Don't forget that copyright also used to expire after a while until Disney started to lobby against it and successfully managed to have legislation changed through bribery, effectively extending it until forever. Disney wouldn't let diabetics get a hold of insulin if it had that patent!!! I shudder to think of a world where Disney has ownership of important inventions of any kind...

  • @ileanabriannemari

    @ileanabriannemari

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 Kinda sad about what Disney is now and what it used to be on the the time Walt was alive. Now it's just...remakes and copyright stuff.

  • @iamerror2091

    @iamerror2091

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know this is a joke, but Disney isn't exempt from patent expiration. For example, the omnimover created in '67 by Disney, now can be used by anyone since it's patent has expired with parks such as KIng's Island having used the ride system in the past.

  • @RichardHannay
    @RichardHannay4 жыл бұрын

    They used rotoscoping in A-Ha’s “Take On Me” music video

  • @davidlizom7556

    @davidlizom7556

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wish music videos these days had more creative stuff like that

  • @ChibiNyaNya

    @ChibiNyaNya

    4 жыл бұрын

    :0 wow I would’ve never guessed!1!1

  • @3rikfreshgeneration349

    @3rikfreshgeneration349

    4 жыл бұрын

    What thats cool . i always wonder about that. The first time i got high i watched a-ha "take on me" thanks for the info

  • @nenidetic

    @nenidetic

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think that's pretty obvious, considering they occasionally turn back into normal people throughout the video

  • @VerdeMorte

    @VerdeMorte

    4 жыл бұрын

    *AND IT STILL LOOKS AMAZING TODAY*

  • @amanul_2474
    @amanul_24744 жыл бұрын

    Walt Disney: I revolutionised animation! Max Fliecsher: Hold my clown...

  • @matrixate

    @matrixate

    3 жыл бұрын

    You mean, hold on you rat.

  • @ramonsancheztorello7111

    @ramonsancheztorello7111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Max Fleischer pioneered the creation of animation techniques. Walt Disney pushed and perfected the potential of these and other techniques in animated films. Both are capital figures in the history of animation.

  • @Princess_of_cute

    @Princess_of_cute

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Robert Barry Max wasn't pushed of by Disney. It was wanted that Fleischer tames Betty, what was a fall, as at that point the attention fell. Who would want to see a character that was free as a bird, in the dress of a normal woman doing laundry. It's a shame and I hate Disney for taking all credit.

  • @matthewzakszewski2205

    @matthewzakszewski2205

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @dejazO0

    @dejazO0

    2 жыл бұрын

    *mcdonald

  • @rachelmcdonough1506
    @rachelmcdonough1506 Жыл бұрын

    I miss the old style of animation where literally every object could become anthropomorphic at any moment and then go back to normal and no one cared. What happened to that?

  • @zappers8027

    @zappers8027

    Жыл бұрын

    You.. didn't cared? as in.. you did not noticed?

  • @pyros6139

    @pyros6139

    Жыл бұрын

    The Amazing World of Gumball did that a little bit.

  • @RayPointerChannel

    @RayPointerChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    Animation started becoming more literal, lead mostly by Disney's leaning towards naturalism. On of the few times he went back to that was in shorts like Little Toot, SUZIE THE BLUE COUP, and the feature, ALICE IN WONDERLAND.

  • @rachelmcdonough1506

    @rachelmcdonough1506

    Жыл бұрын

    @@zappers8027 meaning that the characters aren’t amazed by the inanimate objects moving- they just treat it as part of life.

  • @graysonwells21

    @graysonwells21

    7 ай бұрын

    Well, unless you can find a creative spin for it, I feel most people would think the bit is a little dated and run dry…

  • @jddrewes
    @jddrewes4 жыл бұрын

    "You can patent a device, but you can't patent a dance!" -Carlton wants to know your location

  • @LetsTakeWalk

    @LetsTakeWalk

    4 жыл бұрын

    William Drewes Still true. Also, Carlton’s dance was copied from a dance Bruce Springsteen.

  • @handcoding

    @handcoding

    4 жыл бұрын

    I know that you’re mostly joshing, but Vox is right-you can’t patent a dance. If anything, copyright would be what would apply to dances (including Carlton’s dance), and as that goes, you might check out Legal Eagle’s video “Carlton v. Fortnite - Copyright Dance -Off” for some analysis from a real lawyer about whether dances are copyrightable. (Spoiler: It so happens that “simple” dance routines are explicitly not copyrightable. Now you might be asking, “Is Carlton’s dance a ‘simple dance routine’?” Well, that much may be for the courts to decide.)

  • @smallies7154

    @smallies7154

    4 жыл бұрын

    send location

  • @RealJoey600

    @RealJoey600

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can copyright a dance, it just needs to within a larger sequence of syncopated moves. So instead of a singular move, the whole routine is under copyright

  • @lukerinderknecht2982

    @lukerinderknecht2982

    4 жыл бұрын

    He actually said "you can patent a device but you can't patent that". The "that" he was referring to was the "different type of genius" it took to create this, not the dance.

  • @RobertJRoman
    @RobertJRoman4 жыл бұрын

    Fleischer cartoons were weird, but great. Their downfall came from two sources. One was that the Fleischer brothers fought as much as the Gallagher brothers of Oasis. The other was that Disney raised the stakes with Snow White, leading the Fleichers to make Gulliver's Travels, which was a studio-killing flop.

  • @PhilEdwardsInc

    @PhilEdwardsInc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like you already know the history, but to anyone lurking in the comments, that book by Leslie Cabarga is a great read. It lets you imagine an alternate history for animation (one that would have been deliciously weird). And, of course, it lets you know why it didn't happen.

  • @WillWivellAnimator

    @WillWivellAnimator

    4 жыл бұрын

    The final nail in the Fleischer coffin: their attempt at a second feature, Mr Bug Goes to Town, had its Christmas release cancelled after Pearl Harbor was attacked and the US entered the Second World War.

  • @MizzKittyBichon

    @MizzKittyBichon

    4 жыл бұрын

    They really should have highlighted Snow White instead of Gulliver's Travels since it came first and was much more groundbreaking at the time than the latter.

  • @RobertJRoman

    @RobertJRoman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MizzKittyBichon Perhaps, but the innovations of the Fleischers began more than a decade earlier.

  • @kymmzej9173

    @kymmzej9173

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cartoon history Thank you for sharing that with us!

  • @HAXAD
    @HAXAD3 жыл бұрын

    Twitter: "Tracing is a crime against the art community!" People in the 1900s:

  • @lyraleen1504

    @lyraleen1504

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tracing other peoples art its the crime, tracing real people its ok

  • @stxllr4687

    @stxllr4687

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lyraleen1504 exactly. as an artist myself tracing other ppls art is definitely not allowed (espc. if you claim it as your own). but using irl references are recommended because well, what other reference can you use?

  • @lyraleen1504

    @lyraleen1504

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stxllr4687 yeah, when I get my digital pen (I dont remember the name In english) I Will trace real people for training

  • @stxllr4687

    @stxllr4687

    3 жыл бұрын

    but to add onto that: maybe instead of tracing real people, try doing something like gesture drawing. you pretty much 'copy' the exact pose, but rather than just directly trace over, you make inferences for form and line and shape.

  • @lyraleen1504

    @lyraleen1504

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stxllr4687 ok, i will try it, thanks

  • @isabellebernard5292
    @isabellebernard52922 жыл бұрын

    Speaking as an animator, rotoscoping can be great, but it's important to remember that it quickly ends up looking floaty and weightless. It's best to copy the main poses and look at the breakdown, but amplify the timing and spacing to fit better

  • @Kal-El207

    @Kal-El207

    Жыл бұрын

    How’d you become an animator?

  • @isabellebernard5292

    @isabellebernard5292

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Kal-El207 Went to an animation school, The Animation Workshop, and got a degree in Character Animation

  • @emcaco

    @emcaco

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! You have to note balance changes and ground contact. I'd like to add an example for people reading this: Things like a foot lightly stepping on the ground could be nearly missed in video reference looking at the frame by frame, but in animation you'd often want to exaggerate that contact. By anchoring the foot in place, or showing the shift in balance from heel to toe more obviously. It could take more frames than in the reference, but you compensate with a faster 'spring' from the ground in the rest of the step.

  • @joselkimdelacruz5127

    @joselkimdelacruz5127

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys. I just tried animation, like a literal amateur using Flipaclip. Will try this.

  • @duchi882
    @duchi8824 жыл бұрын

    *For some reason* This made me feel nostalgic of the time when I was not even born

  • @wendel5868

    @wendel5868

    4 жыл бұрын

    Duchi There is a name for that, but I cant remember. Its pretty common feeling.

  • @shadowkillz9606

    @shadowkillz9606

    4 жыл бұрын

    This feeling is called *Anemoia*

  • @kerzariz8717

    @kerzariz8717

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have always wondered what is the term for that.

  • @thanos4959

    @thanos4959

    4 жыл бұрын

    Duchi same

  • @rebeccagibbs4128

    @rebeccagibbs4128

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, all the financial depression, segregation, polio and subjugation of women; sounds peachy!

  • @TheMgutierrez
    @TheMgutierrez4 жыл бұрын

    I mean with lyrics like "She messed around with a bloke named Smokey She loved him though was cokey He took her down to Chinatown And he showed her how to kick the gong around". This cartoon is pretty trippy

  • @altheaequatorin1179

    @altheaequatorin1179

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Gutierrez hideho!

  • @royaldeer87

    @royaldeer87

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@altheaequatorin1179 hee Dee he dee

  • @namejeff5849

    @namejeff5849

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ho de go de ho de ho!

  • @siddharthiyer7244

    @siddharthiyer7244

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@namejeff5849 Hi dee hi dee hi dee hi!

  • @lonewretch

    @lonewretch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@siddharthiyer7244 brrrrrrrt. ain't a playa' if he ain't know my WAP. how things have changed.

  • @matthewishunting
    @matthewishunting3 жыл бұрын

    My dad was a rotoscoper for disney 1980-1993. From Tron to Aladdin, we had plenty of frames of in between shots of animation he'd bring home for us to see

  • @rayx1679

    @rayx1679

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome

  • @ricj9594

    @ricj9594

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow that's so nice

  • @Alkivo
    @Alkivo2 жыл бұрын

    4:28 I find it really wholesome that Cab loved the animation so much he fell to the floor laughing

  • @Jobe-13
    @Jobe-134 жыл бұрын

    I heard rotoscoping freaked people out when it was first used.

  • @Ajourneyofknowing

    @Ajourneyofknowing

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yubi K. - it is unnatural when the animated movements doesn’t seemed synced up with the character.

  • @Spaghettiboy359

    @Spaghettiboy359

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah i still find it a little uncanny in some applications

  • @Physeter

    @Physeter

    4 жыл бұрын

    Uncanny valley :)

  • @Sketchy_Dood

    @Sketchy_Dood

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean it looks human but cartoony

  • @cheesyquokka

    @cheesyquokka

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hmm

  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker4 жыл бұрын

    I love thinking about Cab Calloway laughing hysterically at the animation of himself as a walrus. And anyone who hasn't seen Betty Boop Minnie the Moocher should look it up ASAP.

  • @idavis094

    @idavis094

    4 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching it in my History of Animation class. It's still one of my favorite Fleischer animations.

  • @antisfoxes

    @antisfoxes

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@idavis094 OMG YOU'RE SO LUCKY!!

  • @idavis094

    @idavis094

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@antisfoxes how am I lucky? It was part of the that college class. We went through a lot of different animators and animations.

  • @wizzelhoart

    @wizzelhoart

    Жыл бұрын

    Big Mouth

  • @TheAccursedEntity
    @TheAccursedEntity4 жыл бұрын

    I always wondered why old cartoons had better movement than those of the 80's and 90's.

  • @jamonrandomstuff4294

    @jamonrandomstuff4294

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @fzcbh4698

    @fzcbh4698

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually the 80s & 90s are good but not that great as 30s-50s The real disaster decades are the 60s and 70s were 90% of the animations are limited and not traditional.

  • @justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236

    @justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fzcbh4698 I think these new animation that are 2020s are worser then 90s 80s or old cartoons.

  • @roxassora2706

    @roxassora2706

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justsomeguywhoexploreforfu8236 That's cause you look at things with rose-tinted glasses.

  • @iniquitouslemon5975

    @iniquitouslemon5975

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fzcbh4698 Limited can be traditional

  • @robynstopped
    @robynstopped2 жыл бұрын

    Cab Calloway is unbelievably influential. Even his dance moves now stand out in 2022 as uniquely his own. Fletcher absolutely picked the perfect dancer to rotoscope.

  • @SeeASquaRE
    @SeeASquaRE4 жыл бұрын

    Rotoscoping is still heavily used for harder sequences that require intricate movement. Like ice-skating or dancing etc. It's a cool technique but is used rarely since principles have evolved in animation that now that can make the job of animating something almost close to realism possible through raw skills and intuition. Edit: However even though Rotoscoping is used, it is still hard to do. The movements when traced from an actor will never feel natural and have generally "wonkiness" in their motion, it is usually difficult to account for *every* subtle movements in the human body. So a ton of cleanup work and corrections have to be performed for it to look convincing and in a way still requires a lot of skills as an animator.

  • @akinmytua4680

    @akinmytua4680

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think a lot of Yuri on Ice is rotoscoped. (And I love it for it)

  • @hamzahamid2543

    @hamzahamid2543

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@akinmytua4680 I instantly thought of Yuri too, so nice scenes!

  • @bbumbs747

    @bbumbs747

    4 жыл бұрын

    I would say that though rotoscoping does have it's strengths it also has weaknesses specifically when it comes to the uncanny valley with its movements,but I can't deny that yeah it is still a pretty useful tool,you just have to know when and when not to use it

  • @chingizzhylkybayev8575

    @chingizzhylkybayev8575

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bbumbs747 uncanny valley is strictly about faces. You can simply trace the body movements without tracing the face and you will not have any uncanny effects. The effect came from a weird and uncalled for decision of some animators to trace not only body movements but mimics as well.

  • @hellfish2309

    @hellfish2309

    4 жыл бұрын

    Undone on Amazon Prime 👌👌

  • @bellibarra
    @bellibarra4 жыл бұрын

    What I loved about fleischer studios was their absurdity in making cartoons. People are quick to refer to Disney when talking about old animation but fleischer's weird style is what their most likely talking about subconsciously. If people thought disney was weird back then; they we're merely watching a watered down version of fleischer's cartoons.

  • @joshsampson5598

    @joshsampson5598

    2 жыл бұрын

    So true, it is so upsetting what happened to fiescher studio, I mean disney great and all but nobody gives enough credit to the Fleicher's cartoons

  • @alzack112

    @alzack112

    2 жыл бұрын

    *they're *were

  • @StitchXDHD

    @StitchXDHD

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alzack112 Congrats, you've corrected a 2 year old comments incorrect use of words! On the internet no less! Truly a hero. /s

  • @hatsunemiku5386

    @hatsunemiku5386

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alzack112 congrats

  • @staringcorgi6475

    @staringcorgi6475

    10 ай бұрын

    But disney made superior cartoons and even animated films like fantasia and snow white what did fleisher have to show compared to fantasia mr. Bug goes to town?

  • @cleopatraonlyfans
    @cleopatraonlyfans2 жыл бұрын

    I can’t believe this is how we got the Rotoscope guy from Smiling Friends

  • @angelinegerardi9082
    @angelinegerardi90824 жыл бұрын

    I’ve done this before, as a short movie for the Academy of Creative Technologies(ACT) with layers in photoshop in ‘01. I as an artist didn’t know the depth of the history of the work I was doing, and you filled that gap. Thank you.

  • @NestorCustodio
    @NestorCustodio4 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, I had no idea the Fleischers had *invented* the rotoscope. That explains so much about their studio's success when the late 70's cartoon explosion came about.

  • @ghoulishjoe

    @ghoulishjoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    You mean 30s-40s?

  • @RobertJRoman

    @RobertJRoman

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ralph Bakshi was the primary Rotoscoper in the late 70s

  • @cheesyquokka

    @cheesyquokka

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah

  • @davidbanan.

    @davidbanan.

    3 жыл бұрын

    70s? Fleicher studios went bankrupt in the 40s

  • @RayPointerChannel

    @RayPointerChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidbanan. It was more complicated than that.

  • @sweetbread4190
    @sweetbread41904 жыл бұрын

    Finally, Cab Calloway is getting the recognition he deserves !

  • @antisfoxes

    @antisfoxes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @ratpiss147

    @ratpiss147

    3 жыл бұрын

    the character design for King Dice from Cuphead was inspired from Cab Calloway :,)

  • @antisfoxes

    @antisfoxes

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ratpiss147 mhm!

  • @thehunterator520

    @thehunterator520

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go watch the blues brothers, he is in that movie

  • @Kal-El207

    @Kal-El207

    Жыл бұрын

    You just learned about him.

  • @ohrusty
    @ohrusty2 жыл бұрын

    Watching this video was awesome. It's kind of hard to explain to ppl just how groundbreaking this sort of cartoon-making was done. I don't expect future ppl to watch this whole video, either (if I were to recommend it) but it kind of leaves me with butterflies in my stomach. Thanks for making the video.

  • @captainthrall
    @captainthrall3 жыл бұрын

    What an amazing video. It was informative, in-depth, interesting, and entertaining. Honestly I just wanted to know what rotoscoping was exactly. I wasn't expecting a quick 5 minute video to have such a dramatic impact, but for the rest of my life I'll never forget what you taught me about rotoscoping, Cab Calloway, and Fleischer Studios. You guys really knocked this one out of the park. Well done. Thank you!

  • @ajshim
    @ajshim4 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget without Rotoscoping lightsabers in Star Wars would still be sticks that actors are trying to avoid as if they were threatening.

  • @melchizedekpsj
    @melchizedekpsj4 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the animation of Fujiwara Chika from the ending of Kaguya-sama: Love is War was also achieved through rotoscoping. Thanks a lot for the video!

  • @vividclarities7860

    @vividclarities7860

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can't wait for Kaguya-sama S2

  • @ubayyd

    @ubayyd

    4 жыл бұрын

    Haha wow

  • @MillennialMcGuyver
    @MillennialMcGuyver4 жыл бұрын

    So Max Fleischer pre-dates Disney’s depth camera?! This is all amazing to me. So much freaking talent...

  • @ruiqiumai323
    @ruiqiumai3234 жыл бұрын

    Always good to see Cab Calloway and Koko being brought up. I didn’t find out about them until this year even though they’re a part of entertainment history.

  • @gtabro1337
    @gtabro13374 жыл бұрын

    Thanks to Ghostemane - Mercury the interest in this animation resurfaced for a while

  • @johnathanmiranda9065

    @johnathanmiranda9065

    4 жыл бұрын

    gtabro1337 they didn’t start it

  • @shadowrealmcitizen1149

    @shadowrealmcitizen1149

    4 жыл бұрын

    Agree. I instantly recognized the dance when I saw the thumbnail. Even played the music in my mind for seconds lol.

  • @Coal-RubL

    @Coal-RubL

    4 жыл бұрын

    gtabro1337 this is also used in the reverb of "kid kudi" by playboi carti

  • @nxxdle_

    @nxxdle_

    4 жыл бұрын

    elder reid ya because the creator of that was most likely inspired by mercury by ghostemane

  • @Coal-RubL

    @Coal-RubL

    4 жыл бұрын

    Needle_Man no his came before ghostemane's... other way around

  • @bruh-lg6ch
    @bruh-lg6ch4 жыл бұрын

    2:22 look at this poor clown, he lost one of his AirPods

  • @JoseFloresEC

    @JoseFloresEC

    4 жыл бұрын

    bruh

  • @Purzify

    @Purzify

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh

  • @5people829

    @5people829

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh

  • @HydroEntertainment901

    @HydroEntertainment901

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh

  • @idioticanimator1257

    @idioticanimator1257

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bruh

  • @fetusdeletus9266
    @fetusdeletus92663 жыл бұрын

    I now want to found a movement in the world of filmmaking where we go back to the old ways and make these really weird but oddly beautiful cartoons with flowing animation that blurs and focuses the line between actual footage and animation in the best ways possible

  • @OlafLesniak
    @OlafLesniak4 жыл бұрын

    Vox: You can patent devices, but you can't patent dance moves. Floss Kid: Hi

  • @cassanateli

    @cassanateli

    4 жыл бұрын

    Olaf Lesniak He didn’t Patent it though..?

  • @DaP84

    @DaP84

    4 жыл бұрын

    His greedy mom wanted to. The mooves were even done by a bunch of people, some KZreadrs, years earlier.

  • @Bakedcakeyyy

    @Bakedcakeyyy

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think you can patent or copyright INDIVIDUAL dance moves but you can do so for full choreographies as it is considered an art form I think that was why it didn’t go through

  • @hermeticallysealed1

    @hermeticallysealed1

    4 жыл бұрын

    You realize that this was all back 80 years or so ago. No, back then, you wouldn't be able to.

  • @goodmaro

    @goodmaro

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Bakedcakeyyy No, that would be matter for copyright. Theoretically a dance move could be patented, because methods of doing things are indeed patentable. It's just that it would be very hard to prove novelty and utility of a dance move -- and you couldn't get a design patent for a dance move, only a utility patent.

  • @PinkPopcorn999
    @PinkPopcorn9994 жыл бұрын

    It would be interesting to learn about the animation outsourcing industry. Many people don't know that their favorite cartoons were animated in the Philippines, Korea, India, etc. The Philippine animation industry beginnings are really interesting! It would be great to have Vox cover this.

  • @nicholas_scott
    @nicholas_scott4 жыл бұрын

    Snow White used rotoscoping long before the patent expires. Though Disney and fleichter did work together on some projects

  • @blossomingbeelzebub

    @blossomingbeelzebub

    4 жыл бұрын

    I dont believe they did actually! I think they filmed an actress doing Snow Whites actions in full costume, but only used it as reference. They didnt actually rotoscope the images.

  • @JainaSoloB312

    @JainaSoloB312

    4 жыл бұрын

    @RyanLaVoisin I can't speak to Snow White, but I know they didn't rotoscope for Sleeping Beauty about 20 years later, they just used the live performances as reference. Aurora dipping her toes into the water, dancing, and even Prince Philip battling the great dragon-form Maleficent were all performed by the actors on set to use as reference for the animators, there's even a very limited amount of footage of these

  • @kin2naruto

    @kin2naruto

    4 жыл бұрын

    No, they used refrence video and prints of the still photos behind a lightbox. There is still copies of the refrence videos you can compaire - and its not exact. Rotoscoping has a very reconizable... jitter to it. Even modern computer rotoscoping can still have problems with jitter.

  • @ramonsancheztorello7111

    @ramonsancheztorello7111

    3 жыл бұрын

    The patent for the rotoscope expired in 1934, the same year that Snow White's production started. In fact, Max Fleischer upon learning that Disney was using the rotoscope tried to sue him for patent infringement, but finally didn't do so because he realized that the patent expired in 1934, and the technique was already in public use. And neither Fleischer nor Disney worked together on any projects, with the exception of the live-action film 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, directed by Richard Fleischer (Max Fleischer's son).

  • @Atombender

    @Atombender

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ramonsancheztorello7111 Snow White was made in 1933.

  • @everberry51
    @everberry514 жыл бұрын

    Oooh that’s why I always wondered why backgrounds in old cartoons looked so realistic! Awesome!

  • @chb2005
    @chb20054 жыл бұрын

    Love the Vox Almanac series. Keep them going!

  • @casir.7407
    @casir.74074 жыл бұрын

    god i love this so much.... i love that this is now becoming more popular and well known. also cab calloway had some amazing songs. id love for you guys to tackle lotte reiniger, master of shadow animation, one of my favorite animators and one of the first animation film directors (who, yes, directed a fully animated feature film before disney came with snow white). she and his husband have a fascinating history, from rubbing elbows with berthold brecht and fritz lang while in germany, to working in italy with the most respected italian directors at the time. (also she used multiplane cameras even before these guys, so)

  • @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
    @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex40514 жыл бұрын

    The Rotoscoping effects on Lord Of The Rings scared me when I was younger. Those Orcs looked like they could be from a Black Metal band

  • @Coal-RubL

    @Coal-RubL

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Colorization Channel RIGHT?!?! Im honestly shocked that so many people know what you are talking about. I love love love that film so much.

  • @post-leftluddite

    @post-leftluddite

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ralph Bakshi's work has been a love of mine since I first saw Wizards when I was 5 years old (1989)..after that I sought out his entire catalog and to this day, I own The Lord of the Rings, Wizards, Fire and Ice, American Pop, etc on VHS

  • @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051

    @thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@post-leftluddite I honestly think that American Pop is my favourite Ralph Bakshi film

  • @WZRD095

    @WZRD095

    4 жыл бұрын

    Let’s not forget the ring wraith midnight hit men murder scene with realistic stabbing sounds. Sweet dreams, 7 year old me.

  • @videojeff01

    @videojeff01

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too. I love Wizards and Fire and Ice! Some of my favorite films.

  • @Destin5258
    @Destin52584 жыл бұрын

    So animation started with motion capture, and now we have finally come full circle. Amazing.

  • @nandwani88
    @nandwani884 жыл бұрын

    Yo! This video just brought back so many things I learnt in my History of Animation class at the UofL in Lethbridge! Took it as a blow off class and had no idea so much still stuck with me. Nice!

  • @shanekimberlin
    @shanekimberlin4 жыл бұрын

    Phil Edwards, the work you do for Vox is absolutely wonderful. It inspires me, and most, most likely, many others to look at the world a little differently and try something new. Thank you.

  • @dragonskunkstudio7582
    @dragonskunkstudio75824 жыл бұрын

    I wanted a reference on how to go from sitting on the ground to standing up. I found a video and rotoscoped it, sort of. The problem with rotoscoping, you risk entering the motion version of the uncanny valley. Since I'm using a 3D model I tend to have the video in the scene next to the actor instead of directly over. That way it is still manual animation driving the character.

  • @marco.nascimento
    @marco.nascimento4 жыл бұрын

    amazing, those Cab Calloway animations are incredible

  • @laylover7621
    @laylover76214 жыл бұрын

    I love Vox editing, seriously. Great videos guys.

  • @jasonbarraza3553
    @jasonbarraza35534 жыл бұрын

    I could definitely see people being either unsettled or wonderfully intrigued by this when it first came out. Its like all of a sudden, drawings were moving like they were alive and it must’ve had a sort of uncanny valley feeling at first, still kind of does. Its sort of like how it seems a little odd or impressively alarming seeing those boston dynamics robots being able to do parkour and do perfect backflips and stuff. It seems a little too real for comfort for a lot of people.

  • @hellatina

    @hellatina

    Жыл бұрын

    I was thinking exactly the same. Two years later!!!

  • @tested2032
    @tested20324 жыл бұрын

    So that’s how they made the Chika dance look so good

  • @LetsTakeWalk

    @LetsTakeWalk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Test ED Fun fact, the Chika dance was NOT rotoscoped.

  • @AldoLop

    @AldoLop

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! , didn't know someone else watched Chika dance and Vox

  • @paipepaipe9565

    @paipepaipe9565

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wait no, my bad, it was rotoscoped, confirmed by the show director

  • @kawakiuzumaki8166

    @kawakiuzumaki8166

    4 жыл бұрын

    man of culture

  • @ali99_82

    @ali99_82

    4 жыл бұрын

    Madlad

  • @ardendarling5613
    @ardendarling56132 жыл бұрын

    I was about to say that you were underselling animation by tying its success so heavily to rotoscoping, but you seemed to have made up for it with that ending. Good work!

  • @LighterXD
    @LighterXD Жыл бұрын

    I wonder how proud these people would be of modern day animators Cause like a majority of us don’t do this anymore well people who don’t rotoscope we have to come sit in our head and I wonder how impressed I would be by that

  • @Shinjo_Ms
    @Shinjo_Ms4 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see you guys approach documenting the video games evolution or their own narrative, animation, planning, programming or visual art progress through the years or on certain games that changed history. Great content guys! One of my top 5 favorite KZread channels

  • @dogood8661
    @dogood86614 жыл бұрын

    Each video of Vox is a masterpiece. An absolute joy to see and hear ♥️♥️♥️

  • @katamekothriis1613
    @katamekothriis1613 Жыл бұрын

    I absolutely love the style of the Fleischer cartoons, it was amazing even seeing the style adapted into a video game when Cuphead came out. I think my favorite will always be the Betty Boop as Snow White cartoon with Koko singing Cab Calloway's "St James Infirmary Blues" not just because of the dancing and singing, but because of how if you look at the background you'll see different imagery reflecting the lyrics as they're sung!

  • @lanolinlight
    @lanolinlight2 жыл бұрын

    I feel so ancient watching a formerly commonly known practice like rotoscoping (seen in the original Star Wars laserblasts, Tron, Ralph Bakshi films, etc) discussed like some rare archaeological find.

  • @16o6oo
    @16o6oo4 жыл бұрын

    taking a summer animation class in a couple months and vox rlly be hyping it up for me even more w all these videos aaaa!! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @DhirajKyawal

    @DhirajKyawal

    4 жыл бұрын

    you're gonna love it!

  • @maryjanesabott5183

    @maryjanesabott5183

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Wolpertinger good for you man

  • @sm00thgames63
    @sm00thgames63 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing that so much animiation is still made guessing what real movement looks like instead of tracing it directly from a real source.

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich28222 жыл бұрын

    3:30 Disney tried to sell this process as something he developed. But the German Fischerkoesen Cartoon Wheatherbeaten Melody has also the use of multiplan camera

  • @DinoWinoSaur
    @DinoWinoSaur4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing storytelling and production. Thank you Vox.

  • @AimShootDevelop
    @AimShootDevelop4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been incorporating this into my work and it’s stepped it up 10x !

  • @tibormalinsky8751
    @tibormalinsky87514 жыл бұрын

    The animations where everything talks or just beahve weirdly are amazing. I love ‘em.

  • @arcang2102
    @arcang21022 жыл бұрын

    "You can patent device,but you can't patent That!" Cab Caloways super- stylish-swag,was pricelessly- timeless!He took the bland standard, dry stiffness,out of Max Fleischers creative mechanical clever animation!Amongst others who Bit-n-Rippd his 1 of a kind class-act,"Birth of Cool",Be-Bop Hip figurative,origin of Original "RagTime" smooth moves!In the Real 20's Cab was "The Man"he put everybody on The Map!"Heide, Heidi,Heide-Ho!"Along with The only Chick, that was too Cool for School,was Betty-Boop!"Boo- Boopy-Doop" (Cold-Dope download)Thanx!!

  • @natesmith3949
    @natesmith39494 жыл бұрын

    Rotoscoping is a valuable tool in any animators arsenal but it tends to put characters in the uncanny valley, meaning it has that creepy effect of being almost life-like but not quite. The real breakthrough came from the 12 principles developed by Disney animators in the 30’s and 40’s and described in detail by Ollie Johnston and Frank Thomas in their book, The Illusion of Life.

  • @imjody
    @imjody4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting stuff. Thanks for this, Vox!

  • @AdamFerrari64
    @AdamFerrari644 жыл бұрын

    Max Fleischer’s Rotoscope invention and his stereoptical 3D process were AMAZING for early animation!

  • @RayPointerChannel

    @RayPointerChannel

    Жыл бұрын

    That's not all that Max invented. He had a early form of Aerial Image compositing in 1924 where the animation was photographed frame by frame over projected live action. That was the Rotograph.

  • @merakkin
    @merakkin4 жыл бұрын

    I love so much this cartoon where Koko becames the ghost and sings St James infirmary, it's just so well done and beautiful

  • @altheaequatorin1179
    @altheaequatorin11794 жыл бұрын

    cab calloway is such a legend.

  • @GlassheartRecords
    @GlassheartRecords4 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't seen the Fleischer Superman films, you are doing yourself an incredible disservice. Also if you get the chance, check out KaptainKristian's video essay that goes over those films a ton, it's a great video from an underrated KZreadr.

  • @yash05195495
    @yash051954954 жыл бұрын

    It’s so amazing to see the change in technology so fast!

  • @WestVirginia1959
    @WestVirginia1959 Жыл бұрын

    I loved that you showed how they did it. Very interesting!❤️

  • @streetsahed
    @streetsahed4 жыл бұрын

    great video but i'm kinda bummed y'all didn't bring up one of the most iconic animators who used this technique; Ralph Bakshi

  • @Johnlindsey289

    @Johnlindsey289

    2 жыл бұрын

    Even heavy metal, Jessica rabbit and undone too

  • @DCeeMusik
    @DCeeMusik4 жыл бұрын

    I always loved the Fleischer's style of animation. To me, it was the precursor to motion capture. Who would've thought this little studio in New York would be the innovator for Hollywood in the future. Disney wouldn't have pushed for more innovation it wasn't for Fleischer Studios.

  • @CaptainCretaceous91

    @CaptainCretaceous91

    2 жыл бұрын

    I thought they were based on Maimi.

  • @ThePapaja1996

    @ThePapaja1996

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CaptainCretaceous91 they became that

  • @AnaloguePhoto
    @AnaloguePhoto4 жыл бұрын

    Have always been amazed with how naturally the "prince" walked and run in the old DOS version of Prince of Persia. Tried to find a book on physics of human movement or some mathematical explanation. Your video beats any such book. Thanks!

  • @sledzeppelin
    @sledzeppelin2 жыл бұрын

    That Betty Boop short has so many bizarre ideas that were so great they would later become tropes. Absolutely brilliant.

  • @stroopwafelfalafel
    @stroopwafelfalafel3 жыл бұрын

    Internet artists: Noooo! You can’t just learn about movement and anatomy from other people! That’s pose theft! Delete your account or I’ll report you noooOOO! Golden age animators:

  • @animatorireenie8319

    @animatorireenie8319

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm an artist too and believe me, it annoys me a lot. I'll use rotoscoping as inspiration anyways.

  • @SuperfreakXoXo

    @SuperfreakXoXo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are you talking about twitter?

  • @cookieoreouwu2521

    @cookieoreouwu2521

    2 жыл бұрын

    So basically Disney when they 2D animated, they didnt draw stuff by theirselves, they just traced??

  • @caise3910
    @caise39104 жыл бұрын

    oh, this is definitely cool beans.

  • @tyleroliveira10

    @tyleroliveira10

    4 жыл бұрын

    KatsuraMu *E*

  • @jakecg973

    @jakecg973

    4 жыл бұрын

    KatsuraMu Cool beans it is

  • @yc2877

    @yc2877

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most definitely

  • @ryanfitzgerald9833
    @ryanfitzgerald98337 ай бұрын

    that takes me back to the blues brothers where the same song was performed in a fashion every bit as iconic by calloway. the final echo so far of this animation nearly a century ago.

  • @fyeknight5705
    @fyeknight57056 ай бұрын

    Man to think I pretty much had everything shown in this video on VHS. That superman villain from the robot one was unhinged. Gulliver's Travels was lit too, that one little goofy guy that finds him always gets me.

  • @timsullivan4566
    @timsullivan45664 жыл бұрын

    Producers for celluloid debut of "The Fantastic Four" initially thought Rex Reed's super-stretchiness could best be created with a technique combining Motion-capture with Rotoscoping, but eventually were forced to abandon this approach after failing to secure for their modeling process any real-life footage of human limb spaghettification.

  • @roobindebbarma2957
    @roobindebbarma29573 жыл бұрын

    0:26 that groovy music..

  • @S4NSE
    @S4NSE4 жыл бұрын

    I loved the moves of that ghost and was wondering why it's so groooovy, that explains alot

  • @sandyg.8318
    @sandyg.83184 жыл бұрын

    I love rotoscoping in animation. When done right it’s beautiful.

  • @arthoe5885
    @arthoe58854 жыл бұрын

    the dancing walrus literally looks terrifying I wish I never saw that abomination

  • @christopherjaigopaul3896
    @christopherjaigopaul38964 жыл бұрын

    I found this page today I learned something today

  • @SWonYT
    @SWonYT4 жыл бұрын

    I love that video! It's actually amazing to learn more about it.

  • @mikkey246
    @mikkey246 Жыл бұрын

    This was so interesting, beautiful editing

  • @thahdeepseadivuh7501
    @thahdeepseadivuh75014 жыл бұрын

    The movie Waking Life is a great example of this.

  • @Ajourneyofknowing

    @Ajourneyofknowing

    4 жыл бұрын

    ThahDeepSeaDivuh - & A Scanner Darkly

  • @richardross1754

    @richardross1754

    4 жыл бұрын

    Great movies

  • @post-leftluddite

    @post-leftluddite

    4 жыл бұрын

    Or how about the entire career of Ralph Bakshi

  • @Johnlindsey289

    @Johnlindsey289

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget heavy metal with the Taarna story, roger rabbit on Jessica rabbit or Undone

  • @bb.cute.channel
    @bb.cute.channel4 жыл бұрын

    Please an analysis on Hayao Miyazaki’s animated movies.

  • @RegalCandy
    @RegalCandy4 жыл бұрын

    I love the movement. It’s mesmerizing

  • @timewarpambience1956
    @timewarpambience19562 жыл бұрын

    This is so amazing, I never knew this!!!

  • @NGC_2264
    @NGC_22644 жыл бұрын

    1:16 where's the sample from? I know Mamamoo used it on Dab Dab

  • @cathy9423
    @cathy94234 жыл бұрын

    Okay, for outstanding animation. You HAVE talk about “The Thief and the Cobbler”.

  • @x4virom
    @x4virom3 жыл бұрын

    Really well explained, and I love Rotoscope

  • @Fs-zo8ws
    @Fs-zo8ws4 жыл бұрын

    Nice reminder that even the ol' good animations started stiff at some point but got better over time =3

  • @justarandomguy3237
    @justarandomguy32374 жыл бұрын

    The dancing ghost and the old-man of the mountain was very creepy for me

  • @masterimbecile
    @masterimbecile4 жыл бұрын

    When Cab Calloway saw his dance animated, he rofl'ed.

  • @roelruijs5129
    @roelruijs51293 жыл бұрын

    Jo this is great production. That was interesting!

  • @ulischmidt03
    @ulischmidt033 жыл бұрын

    i find that kind of motion very nostalgic, and i’d really like it if modern 2d animations were to dabble in that rotoscoping style again.

  • @Kevin-lh1lt
    @Kevin-lh1lt4 жыл бұрын

    *Now you'll never know why this comment got so many likes* 😂

  • @ferrancotinocarrasco4665

    @ferrancotinocarrasco4665

    4 жыл бұрын

    *Wrong* It knows us even better than us😳

  • @Kevin-lh1lt

    @Kevin-lh1lt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ferrancotinocarrasco4665 hahaha that's a better one buddy!

  • @michaelandre6157

    @michaelandre6157

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because you spend more time watching videos on KZread than talking to your parents

  • @Kevin-lh1lt

    @Kevin-lh1lt

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelandre6157 or maybe it was just humourous to write a comment like this one, you take stuff like this seriously buddy?

  • @narwhal5447

    @narwhal5447

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Kevin-lh1lt it's a fact lol

  • @vvventure
    @vvventure4 жыл бұрын

    The first animated film (el apostol) was made in Argentina by Quirino Christiani

  • @casir.7407

    @casir.7407

    4 жыл бұрын

    yep yep. unfortunately theres so little material and info about it to make a full vox video, i guess

  • @edoardogennarini8274
    @edoardogennarini82742 жыл бұрын

    Simply great, great video. Thank you

  • @rechargegamesstudio2803
    @rechargegamesstudio2803 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for this mini documentary very important for 3d animators to know there roots.

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