Fantastic rant, I love it! And you're absolutely right. I love how you underline the intent of the artist. Those who would seek to replace artists with machine learning and AI clearly don't understand what art is for. Replace stuff that people don't want to do, or can't do. But people get joy (and their livelihood) from creating art, and they want to do it. It's one of the things that make us human. I'm no Luddite, and I love using new tools to create my animation. But when it starts to encroach upon the fulfillment that I get from creating, then no thanks! You might argue that this is just interpolation and chill out. But my response to that is just wait, this is just getting started.

@Daman6973

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, was not expecting this guy to comment!

@moistbutter8511

3 жыл бұрын

jams

@noodlefunny

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing your perspective! And for commenting at all lol. You're an inspiration

@NephewJayden

3 жыл бұрын

I love you James Baxter

@gabriel-ri7hn

3 жыл бұрын

!!!! JAMES BAXTER

“ I don’t like watching an animation..that’s got vaseline all over it” Why does that make so much sense

@re_i1

3 жыл бұрын

@toijg avnnr never stop Keep going

@iPancake3

3 жыл бұрын

Hijacking this comment to warn people it's VERY loud at 14:07. Headphone users beware

@condensed_sam

3 жыл бұрын

I feel ya. I feel ya SO MUCH. Also, I got you to 666 likes.

@acewithoutgrace8454

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Vaseline is for eating, not video footage

@re_i1

3 жыл бұрын

@@condensed_sam finally, I can now ascend

THANK YOU NOODLE

@Korudo1322

3 жыл бұрын

Go back into the basement and make more animation also be safe

@jairus2008

3 жыл бұрын

Im the 15 like

@j4hs179

3 жыл бұрын

@@jairus2008 ok

@demomoon1552

3 жыл бұрын

Hey juny

@javierolmedo2225

3 жыл бұрын

noodles

Low FPS animation has a very nice, cartoony charm to it. High FPS animation gives off energy of something that has been worked hard on, and should be taken seriously. Low FPS animations that have had their FPS boosted by an AI make me feel like I am experiencing eyeball cancer.

@proxboxgamer69

Ай бұрын

from what i've seen, there's this one guy called Neobrane who does these kinds of things, but I'm assuming he does some manual work to make it *actually look good*, and not be a blurry mess

Interpolated animation is like picking up a good-looking strawberry, and when you bite into it, it's uncomfortably soggy.

@Extroverted-Gay

4 ай бұрын

Why is this true

@clockwork_mind

3 ай бұрын

What a perfect description of those few seconds realizing "oh this feels- eeuegh"

@hel2727

Ай бұрын

no pls that's so disgusting 😭

"60fps is good, when the animator intends it" never have i agreed with something so much

@Arkken

3 жыл бұрын

I agree to a certain point. With higher HRz in media and technology it's often jaring for me to watch something old at 12 - 24 frames. It looks stuttery when watching something that was made for 60fps or higher then watching something that's old. Almost like bad stop motion at times. Dragon Prince on Netflix was like that for me even if people liked it, I couldn't get into it. But I do agree that an AI doing inbetweens is an inaccurate way to fix this.

@takashimizutani1808

3 жыл бұрын

@@Arkken most anime are done in 24 fps and it doesn't look jarring you sound like someone who wants to play a game in 144hz on a 60hz monitor

@cheese8554

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Agree

@Arkken

3 жыл бұрын

@@takashimizutani1808 Maybe not to you, but it does to me. Also 60 fps is pretty standard. Going above that is extra.

@JameyMcQueen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Arkken Games fixed at 30 FPS: hi, how are ya?

As an animator who loves doing in-betweens, smudges, action choreography, and impact frames... Yes, I also find it very insulting.

@jarurig4294

3 жыл бұрын

Oooo Sad-ist :o

@ulqinaku8471

3 жыл бұрын

>Dream lol

@yumpie910

3 жыл бұрын

Oh hi I was not expecting to see you here :'D

@ammarsp

3 жыл бұрын

My putting my comment here

@tank7275

3 жыл бұрын

you don't need to tell us that you do action choreography. that's literaly all your recent uploads(i meant that in a nice way :) )

2 years later and people still can’t accept how bad interpolation is

@KaneyoriHK

Ай бұрын

Ok like, to clarify, for 2D animation it's awful, but it's just a common thing in 3D, but in that it's all motion paths and Inverse Kinematics. However, that doesn't mean interpolation isnt a technical factor in how it works. What I think is bad, is the loss of intention. 2D animation is all about each frame being intentional, an algorithm is non-intentional. It does not know technique or art direction. It is simply trying to replicate something, often poorly. The lack of intention is the problem, and obviously, that right goes to the artist, not someone else to hash on later. It was not done that way intentionally, so dont fuck with it.

@FossyPickles

Ай бұрын

@@KaneyoriHK i agree with this entirely, interpolation really only can work in 3D in an animation sense seeing as it's MADE to work with 3D alongside live action

@KaneyoriHK

Ай бұрын

@@FossyPickles Exactly. Like, just cause I use it for assisting in my animation, which it's done to calculate the motion of an object and ISNT done in post, doesnt automatically make me a bad artist. It's me using it with actual intent, not like these other greedy fellas who are just lying their way to fame

@VanFire87

Ай бұрын

We all accept it's bad, but also accept that 60 fps would be much better than 24 fps, if done right.

@FossyPickles

Ай бұрын

@@VanFire87 60 fps is only better if it was *intended* to be animated that way, that and 60 wouldn’t be better, because believe it or not, higher fps ≠ better animation

You were ahead of the times with this video. Ai became such a massive topic of conversation within the past year, I thought this video came out in 2023. Fantastic rants/analysis.

"heres a picture of a little man, he's doing well and i'm proud of him." - I will die for him.

@johnsweeter8686

3 жыл бұрын

We should protec the little man at all cost!

@theshamanite

3 жыл бұрын

LMPA Little Man Protection Agency when?

@Vectorbro

3 жыл бұрын

Sam

@tomikun8057

3 жыл бұрын

Dog: *sad noises*

I love how the title has "[4K 60FPS]" just so the algorithm targets the people who watch those kinds of videos.

@AfferbeckBeats

3 жыл бұрын

Defeating the computer at its own game!

@BertoPlease

3 жыл бұрын

And then the video is capped at 50 fps looool

@randomplaceinruralamerica9618

3 жыл бұрын

And I assumed it worked because rn it has 4.7 million views

@into.the.wood.chipper.

3 жыл бұрын

@@BertoPlease That makes no sense, is he in the UK?

@TiGiPiT

3 жыл бұрын

@@BertoPlease It's at 50 cause its the double of 24. It's a joke (maybe), plus he animated his stuff at the correct framerate while being able to show the interpolated footage as well.

This video aged like fine wine.

he tried to warn us HE TRIED TO WARN USSS

As a translator, I vibe with this video whenever someone asks me why I ask money for something Google Translate does for free.

@christopherklute1606

3 жыл бұрын

Lol, anyone who thinks Google Translate is accurate definitely isn't fluent in a second language.

@amezu3559

3 жыл бұрын

@@christopherklute1606 aaaaand that's why I'm making an effort to learn Japanese! Though, sometimes a robotic translation works too- if applied right.

@clray123

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-im9zp4yp9x Yeah... and it's not going to be Google Translate, it's going to be commercial AI-based translators trained on a specific domains such as "computer science books" or "Shakespeare".

@bobbobert9379

3 жыл бұрын

@@clray123 The reason Google translate doesnt work as well as it needs to for human standards is because of the model it uses to translate. They use transformer models, which are giant networks of what are called attention matrices to try to be able to understand language and especially context. And with hundreds of millions of datapoints and months of computation time spent training on the most powerful supercomputers in the world these models can only get somewhat close to being accurate. And these models are approaching a limit as to how good they can be, as in order to increase accuracy for Google translates model by 0.15%, the amount of data used must be doubled. They're experiencing diminishing returns. That's because they dont model language the way that language actually exists, the way that humans and linguists have been modeling language for thousands of years - by turning sentences into dependency trees. Using dependency trees and starting from a linguistic standpoint rather than a computational standpoint to model language the way humans understand it is the way to go to create a translation model that can exceed the current models capabilities with far less time, data, and resources.

@user-xz3fy4ym4l

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely XD

dude somewhat off topic but this video looks so goddam buttery smooth and ur lip syncing is actually fantastic

@professionalshitposter6988

3 жыл бұрын

zark I love you

@sn1p1n

3 жыл бұрын

hey zark, love ur animations

@realjerma

3 жыл бұрын

hehe sheep man hehe

@samhill6444

3 жыл бұрын

You're a pretty awesome sheep.

@Is_kitten

3 жыл бұрын

Hey it's that guy who animated that gumball spider thing

I never knew the illusion of life was known to be the "bible of animation". It's been sitting on my parents shelf for quite a long time, glad to know its useful for all animators!

I think one of the worst things I'm noticing is how much of a deluge there is of anime openings with "60 FPS 4K HD" on the end because. they're ALL interpolated. I have to look for specifically the anime studio, because it is criminal how sometimes no original, un-interpolated version has been uploaded. it's all been fucked up using interpolation-

@user-pt5cl2ro6f

7 күн бұрын

No fr and reactors and non fans who wanna check it out gets a butchered clusterfuck for their first experience.

@l3onardomgbr

3 күн бұрын

agree, i've seen that happen with jojo ops a lot

when musical artists get nightcore versions of their song

@liondeluxe3834

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

@maxdz2131

3 жыл бұрын

i hate nightcore, i feel it like an insult

@maxdz2131

3 жыл бұрын

@Aaron Hutton agreed

@halfdraggy

3 жыл бұрын

What is nightcore

@attomic5319

3 жыл бұрын

I dUnNo, iT SoUnDs BeTtEr tO Me...

Horror idea: everything is normally animated at 24 fps, but the monster is animated with an alternating 12/48 frames.

@shaggnar2014

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly it would be a good way to make things look unnatural. Kind of like how all the mechanical bits in Treasure Planet were CGI and anything organic was hand drawn

@FuzBrain

3 жыл бұрын

See, this is a good use for it

@minecraftoverlordpe2842

3 жыл бұрын

If I ever make a creature from beyond our dimensional perspective, like an angel or eldritch being I'll try that out. I expect it will portray well

@hi_its_jerry

3 жыл бұрын

good idea!

@profezzordarke4362

3 жыл бұрын

If we ever get another Volume of Love, Death & Robots, that should be used in an episode.

As a half-gamer half-artist, I can confirm the pain, and the fact literally only gamers care.

@KaneyoriHK

Ай бұрын

I mean, the whole thing can be viewed differently through the lens of a 3D artist. Some things Do look better in a higher framerate, however, it's not all black and white. The real issue is just it's not intended for these to be at higher frames. Some just hop on a trend to try and get views. It's all such a joke

@Redd7206

Ай бұрын

Same

@PhoenicopterusR

26 күн бұрын

Gamers are the new "I can't function without my coffee" people.

@SaHaRaSquad

12 күн бұрын

And not even all gamers. I've heard some people appreciate details like Monster Hunter games (at least in the PSP days) freezing animations for a frame or two when you hit a monster with a chonky weapon so you feel the impact more. I think the people who only care about blindly maximizing framerates are the ones who need (and understand) them the least because most of what they play is more of a cinematic experience instead of something with super tight input timing. The reason gaming consoles have been running with 30fps by default for so long is because the console target audience doesn't really care that much, and games where it actually matters like fighting or racing games were just running at 60 anyway.

Oh my god this video is two years old... and here I thought it was brand new because (unfortunately) the thing is still going on... probably even got worse. Still a great vid - still on point after 2 years. Cheers!

@user-pt5cl2ro6f

7 күн бұрын

I watched it when it aired and I can't believe it's been 3 years

You could have just put a guy on a couch and moved his mouth, but instead you decided to fully animate gestures and detailed mouth movement. What a legend.

@claws811

3 жыл бұрын

@toijg avnnr y

@joe-lq6jz

3 жыл бұрын

who the hell do you think he is

@freebeerishere

3 жыл бұрын

he’s,,, an animator

@genopie2673

3 жыл бұрын

@@freebeerishere whats that supposed to mean?

@freebeerishere

3 жыл бұрын

@@genopie2673 that he’s very skilled at animating and genuinely enjoys it. i thought it would be obvious that he would put the extra effort in to make a video that’s engaging.

let's appreciate the full lip sync for the whole video

@AssignedXInsanity

3 жыл бұрын

I don't even animate, and I cry for his hands (and sanity) cause of it lol

@comradebusman3

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, it sure helped prove his point. Also I enjoy your content and would like to compliment how good your work/videos are.

@Wicked_wannabe

3 жыл бұрын

THIS

@bakonsword

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the whole video Noodle makes very good videos and with each video he not only grows his funny but also his animations even if he was assisted by other animators

@TechSupportDave

3 жыл бұрын

i'm not sure but i think sometimes animators reuse frames or create their own custom "lip libraries" for all common sounds to save on time. I can imagine that this dude would just have to load an image for each mouth frame and that's it, though i'm no animator.

I find that animated fight scenes are easier to read when you have less frames. Especially for scenes with a lot of stuff going on.

EXACTLY like animators especially for the new Spiderman movie used ai, yes, but they had to also literally FIGHT against it to get the look that they wanted.

I want my animation to really FEEL like it's real life and real life is garbage so it makes sense

@ihatenerds4689

3 жыл бұрын

jef

@Septor-xc4xr

3 жыл бұрын

You are so brave😔😔😔😔😔🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

@snomvish

3 жыл бұрын

this guy is onto something

@simbast9726

3 жыл бұрын

you animate?

@internetlurker1850

3 жыл бұрын

@Emmanuel Brijandez Torres Because life is pretty boring for most people, unless you have enough money and motivation to make it not boring

13:56 - He's right. Great work, this was awesome.

@koenluvsyou

3 жыл бұрын

ayy, hey ross !

@noodlefunny

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a ton, love u ross

@WillyTate2004

3 жыл бұрын

Ross. Anyways I saw the price and for some reason I though: "this is a honey ad"

@bp931

3 жыл бұрын

Yo it’s Ross

@gigatesla

3 жыл бұрын

Love your stuff, hope you're doing well!

One of the most rewatchable videos i know. Such an interesting topic and perspective that not nearly enough are talking about. Well done.

@rondocomedy

2 ай бұрын

OH MY GOD THESE ARE MY EXACT SAME THOUGHTS

I just had this recommended to me. I am one of those gamers you mentioned, but I can 100% relate to how you feel because I grew up gaming at 60FPS. (Well, 50 because I’m Australian but that’s another can of worms.) 60FPS combined with simple gameplay resulted in VERY precise controls. The push for 30FPS because “It looks better now!” at the cost of control infuriates me to no end! And there are even “remasters” of games like Tales Of Symphonia that half the framerate! What I’m saying is, the next time you get one of these gamer types saying “This would look better at 60FPS” tell them that’s like you telling them their game would look better at 12FPS. They’ll probably have an aneurysm.

My favorite thing is when someone posts a fucking ruined, 60fps anime fight scene where ALL the punches have zero fucking weight to them

@liamholder687

3 жыл бұрын

Same chief

@justafellerwithnoprofilepi4546

3 жыл бұрын

How right Circle is about something directly scales with the amount of times he says "fuck" He uses fuck twice, and he's extremely correct, so the rule proves itself. I've elected to call this phonomonon the "Circle fuck law"

@somebodyekkee

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention Anime OPs you can only find at 60 fps on KZread yikes

@spokcak

3 жыл бұрын

OOO

@MrUnc

3 жыл бұрын

The one punch man fights.......

Finally Noodle makes a video at 50 fps, I always thought his other work looked choppy but now it's buttery smooth!!!

@Black-sy7dl

3 жыл бұрын

Pão com ovo

@thehuman2cs715

3 жыл бұрын

Wait you're real? I thought noodle made you up for a joke in his crunch video

@manolomartinez5033

3 жыл бұрын

Punk Dunk? Here? Wow

@Sophie_ZeroZeroSeven

3 жыл бұрын

@@Black-sy7dlpau com ovo

@kacperkasperowicz7446

3 жыл бұрын

How to....surprise an audience

I am not a animator Still learning I agree alot AI is taking over human jobs Animation is like emotion But when AI do it Its ruin the emotions

jesus christ dude, this was your first video I watched and you almost killed me in the outro part '-'. loved the contet btw XD.

@Daboypurplhart

22 күн бұрын

Same here

big respect for the fact that he literally has "ad break" as a chapter and lets you easily skip it

@MrMonsieurGreen

3 жыл бұрын

But why would you. He did such a great job animating it

@nerdoftheseasonnwibani2456

3 жыл бұрын

AD IS AD!!!

@outofideasexe

3 жыл бұрын

@@nerdoftheseasonnwibani2456 see but skipping the ad is not cool

@WilsontheWolf

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't even notice it cause sponsored block but that was very cool of him.

@BloodSprite-tan

3 жыл бұрын

@@outofideasexe i don't have to skip the ad the computer does it for me. since i installed a plugin. /shrug.

The anamorphs cover was just a perfect analogy.

@Kostalgic

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@lardlover3730

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr lol

@zenithchan1646

3 жыл бұрын

??

@goddepersonno3782

3 жыл бұрын

I still have fond memories (aka: sick twisted nightmares) from reading the animorphs book series

@kevinfranklin7913

3 жыл бұрын

Umami I love you and interface keep up the good work

I like to think this video was a very important part in how we appreciate animation and keyframes now

That was the best 14 minutes of the week. Engaging, and explains things in a way that is just-enough-tech-but-not-brain-breaking. Well done. The humour bits got me too, especially paying off the friend for the Honey ad. 13/10 frames of review goodness.

My initial reaction as a not-really-an-animator was "hey I wouldn't mind" and then I realised that if I had put time into specifically animating something a certain way only for somebody else to come along and be like "hey look I iMProVeD IT" I would probably pop a blood vessel

@felixahelixa3233

2 жыл бұрын

You made my day with this comment haha

@noobnub7305

2 жыл бұрын

yea true

@kadugbuss

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, for me the biggest problem with all of that is that most of those people who interpolate OTHER'S animation, they think they are better than the animators themselves, they think they are improving this and that they are good at what they do. they dont

@macaronmunch793

2 жыл бұрын

its not the OmG I ImpROveD iT which annoys me, its that the animation looks like shit

@kadugbuss

2 жыл бұрын

@@macaronmunch793 Well, i think its a mix of both. Like the fact that people ruin the animation and still thinks they are the best and that improved the good hard work of an animator

"this is 24 fps, this is 48. look close. you see the difference" yes the difference is that turning my quality up to HD actually crashed my computer

@Sougin_0

2 жыл бұрын

Lol! Sorry for that

@macropie45yearsago18

2 жыл бұрын

Is that actually true 😂

@eastdakota6954

2 жыл бұрын

@@macropie45yearsago18 yes because my computer is old and sad

@Sougin_0

2 жыл бұрын

@@eastdakota6954 dang. Hopefully you can get a better one

@xiwawamolhado1314

2 жыл бұрын

@@eastdakota6954 my google crashes every time i put a video on anymore than 480p, c'mon bro come with the shit computers gang

The interpolated shot of you had no magic, i like ur little janky movements :( Its imperfect and nice :3

bro I was relaxing, kind of zoning out near the end of your vid, and you scared me so hard I think I saw a glimpse of the 4th dimension

“This whole shot is interpolated did you even notice” I’m proud of immediately noticing

@ThatWhichObserves

3 жыл бұрын

same my first thought before it came up was. um.. tf.

@HuntressCody

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, same, I was paying close attention to the details of this dude's animation since the moment I clicked on the video. I saw the interpolated shot and I was like "YUP! THAT'S THE SHITTY ONE!"

@lumivoid950

3 жыл бұрын

And that’s the thing, it’s not even hard to notice, especially when you know what the original looks and feel like.

@michaelepica3564

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t even notice lol

@mrgroovy5113

3 жыл бұрын

Same I knew something was up xD

As a computer scientist, the problem isn't that AI can't do animation, it's that computer scientists aren't animators.

@chrisheartman9263

2 жыл бұрын

That's why the only program made for animators actually works, I guess. They probably either took in animators or were animators themselves.

@Raleighthrbub123

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisheartman9263 well, making a toolset is different than making a program that successfully creates something out of nothing. Toolset programs only need to know ''what'' to do, whereas somewhere in an AI it also needs to know ''how'' and particularly with video ''when'' to do stuff, making it severely more complicated.

@DaLatinKnight

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Ai is usually never the problem, it's how it's used. Even in software engineering, people have said at some point code will write itself. That hasn't happened (at a decent scale anyway) because someone needs to actually design a program. Same with animation. AI can't do shit if the animators don't set a solid foundation. Anyway you look at it, AI can just be an optional tool for animators.

@Raleighthrbub123

2 жыл бұрын

@@HiddenRealm Jesus Christ bro I'm not reading that.

@lukascurtis3928

2 жыл бұрын

@@HowlGough lol

I've seen this video more than 3 times by now, but the robot bit at the end never fails to scare the shit out of me

Just got into animation and realized how fuck8ng hard it is to animate a single-motion so yeah putting it through AI will definitely be an insult to the animator

@user-op8fg3ny3j

12 сағат бұрын

or if the animator had it to help so work can be done faster

@thehole1

12 сағат бұрын

@user-op8fg3ny3j if the animator wants it the animator can use it

@user-op8fg3ny3j

12 сағат бұрын

@@thehole1 💯. Especially helpful if it's an individual project. I'd appreciate if it saved me time doing the extra frames (if it made it well)

Even more laughable is when people upload '60FPS videos' where they didn't even use AI interpolation. They just changed the framerate in the render settings :D

@averys1738

3 жыл бұрын

WELCOME TO THE ANIMATION ZONE

@firytwig

3 жыл бұрын

I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying they are smart and are covering up the fact that they are stealing an animation for views while doing nothing, which is horrible

@fatmario8244

3 жыл бұрын

Love your Chanel :)

@wj11jam78

3 жыл бұрын

Execution by excessive framerate.

@rsullivan6738

3 жыл бұрын

Animation is my passion

This is the animators equivalent to the whole “fixed your art” shit

@otterlypawful

3 жыл бұрын

@Double-Edge man shut up

@kozucity

3 жыл бұрын

Right??

@liquidgarfield8523

3 жыл бұрын

@Double-Edge found the Twitter user

@remuvs

3 жыл бұрын

@Double-Edge I think we know what side you're on.

@zackcook5123

3 жыл бұрын

@Double-Edge Cutting yourself on those Double Edges a bit much?

I like how in the end in the “robot takeover” his animation turned interpolated

As somebody who tweens for animations, I separate the body parts, make sure to have multiple expressions and don’t make it go to the target automatically, I make the character move a little frame by frame and add character/personality to it along the way :D

someone reuploaded my animation but with 60fps and got 1 million views before any of my videos did T-T pa i n

@naii2481

3 жыл бұрын

P a i n

@naii2481

3 жыл бұрын

Also, good to see ya here!

@anonymouslucario285

3 жыл бұрын

Copy strike it

@mau6068

3 жыл бұрын

SUE THEM

@ForwardBias

3 жыл бұрын

Give that vid a copyright strike then!

I always noticed that weird smearing in between many frames of “enhanced” animations. Glad I found someone who put it into proper terms.

@AstonWildsteel

3 жыл бұрын

Deep-fried inbetweens? : D

@childofslaanesh1251

3 жыл бұрын

@@AstonWildsteel yes that is the official term

@notbacon__

4 ай бұрын

I have some news: AI's like RIFE don't do this anymore, unless the frames are too different or your going past 2x

bro, i was starting to read the comments at 14:03 because the video was ending, i jumped screaming out of the chair, highly recommend would watch again :)

Whoa! That shot at 9:41 is so smooth, I can feel the skill of the animator

I apologize Noodle I will be better

@robkies

2 жыл бұрын

gamers, amirite

@xsunnyxmisty8389

2 жыл бұрын

Be better

@goblinsludge2878

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gamer

@DispariousKnightStalker

2 жыл бұрын

Did you change your name for DA MEME yo GOAT

@meiloishere4086

2 жыл бұрын

You better be

I thought I was just being an old man when I thought interpolated animation looks like ass. Glad I'm not alone.

@-two3383

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@mohamadredzwan6628

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same I rather have Low frame When Watch old animation? wait what?

@mohamadredzwan6628

3 жыл бұрын

@@aidendoesado3624 Neither do me sorry I wake 24 my brain is not in a good state so you see something I don't even know what I'm doing.

@mohamadredzwan6628

3 жыл бұрын

I mean I was awake for 24 hour so yeah that.

@damiamquimtana573

3 жыл бұрын

When I saw it on twitter I thought "It looks weird, funny but weird" then it just went worse

Best transition to sponsorship I've seen lol. "that's expensive" *honey sponsorship* perfection

After watching this video I went to amazon and bought the animation tips book, thanks for the recommendation. Take a sub.

Video title: 4K 60FPS Video: 1080p 50FPS lmfao great video

@inkoherency

2 жыл бұрын

huh what real 7 minutes ago wtf

@TailorNoFikes

2 жыл бұрын

Ok

@ImNamo_

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hello there nathaniel

@assassin01620

2 жыл бұрын

Nathaniel fucking Bandy everytime

@LavaCreeperPeople

2 жыл бұрын

no

When I began animating a lot of my friends (including me) thought that more frames and drawings made better animation. But in almost every case, more frames just loses clarity and weight that the animation had before. If you're a capable animator, you can make shit look good with 2-3 drawings, depending on the motion. I don't know why people get obsessed with everything being 60fps

@milktea6676

3 жыл бұрын

First furry

@aceytv4951

3 жыл бұрын

cuz *frames*

@Pairrot

3 жыл бұрын

Beginning to realize this as I learn and experiment with 3D animation

@yuca6202

3 жыл бұрын

amen🙌

@syntheticant8172

3 жыл бұрын

The only channel I find to be much better in 60fps is kurzgesagt.

Totally agreed. I like my *games* at high framerates, but not my movies and tv shows. I always called it the 'cinematic feel' but yeah, this. :D

8:55 Can't get enough of the swrsdcsdw movement

Those 60fps videos have largely just been a source of content scraping for reuploaders. Gotta get those free hits. The thing I've always said is that smooth animation hinges on the intent and the motion itself. You can have smooth looking animation playing at 8 fps if it looks natural enough.

@duality2398

3 жыл бұрын

yeeeee 1st

@fenrirwolf4157

3 жыл бұрын

@@duality2398 lmao what why

@aidankhan6194

3 жыл бұрын

This is the most *sensical* comment on this video.

@duality2398

3 жыл бұрын

@@fenrirwolf4157 I’m sorry I had to

@Geraldi-hj3pi

3 жыл бұрын

wait wtf, Zedrin ?

This entire episode is just a mood by itself. My animator brain short circuits whenever people actually try to argue that the 60fps Fantasia (and literally anything else) is better than its original.

@walpang8968

3 жыл бұрын

Yoo look who i found! Love your channel guys

@fohex40

3 жыл бұрын

My brain short circuits when dumbass animators that barely got through grade 12 math compare motion tweening to machine learning and then go yOu mIgHt nOT sEe tHe diFFerEnce BuT yOU Can FeEl iT! Muh fucking animator feelings, muh fucking creativity. You people are fucking wild.

@walpang8968

3 жыл бұрын

@@fohex40 You speak like a 15 year who just discovered 4chan

@FinnusBingus

3 жыл бұрын

@@walpang8968 Watch out. He got thru 12 grade with ease man. I'd tread carefully if i were you. Can't you see how smart and mature this man is?

@H0gwashing

3 жыл бұрын

fohe x Ooh look at me! I'm a miserable tosspot who lost touch with feelings and I think i'm on top of the universe. Shut up.

That was the best segue into a sponsorship that I’ve ever seen

I think honestly the ppl just dont realize this unles its a side by side (Also i got a bit later in the vid 13:04 just the "god gamers suck" is so true bro it isnt bout framerate its about the game just like its not about the size its about the personality)

Thank god someone said it I remember when Spiderverse came out and some people were saying that the low frame rate was to "save money" aS IF THAT'S HOW ANYTHING WORKS

@randombeeswarmfan905

3 жыл бұрын

WAIT PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID THAT I didn’t watch it but even I know that’s not why there is a low frame rate

@writershard5065

3 жыл бұрын

People these days have a serious case of superiority complex with any kind of knowledge. And then when faults are pointed out they double down and say they're write despite visual evidence to the contrary. Like petulant children.

@LowKiiSavage

3 жыл бұрын

I mean... the framerate did look a bit weird and choppy but it was still a kickass movie so I didn't complain

@unfortunatepineapple9922

3 жыл бұрын

@@LowKiiSavage I think that was the point to make it look more like a comic book style

@mortache

3 жыл бұрын

I hated watching that movie. Sped up the "artsy low fps" parts because its fucking dumb and hurts my head. Things should be 144hz not fuckin 5hz especially if its rendered on a fuckin computer. The actual movie was great but I will never watch it again.

"but it's smoother!" yeah, well, so's my brain.

@procrastinatorqueen

3 жыл бұрын

self burn!! ooh those are rare!

@basedbattledroid3507

3 жыл бұрын

@@procrastinatorqueen pfft, the only thing burning around here are my eyes, when I see my hideous face in the mirror.

@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479

3 жыл бұрын

@@basedbattledroid3507 bro... u good?

@lazerktulu2693

3 жыл бұрын

@@basedbattledroid3507 that's some pink guy shit right there

This is the first video I've watched from you and I love it I'm trying to be animator but I'm still learning

Your animation looks really cool, it's looks like simple but it's not simple, it blows my mind

@merahdelimakayumanggi

3 ай бұрын

Hard😊

It definitely does look smoother, in the same way that your food looks smoother when you vomit it back up

@LutraLovegood

Жыл бұрын

Wild exaggeration but ok

@plumcave9942

Жыл бұрын

@@LutraLovegood nah, I'd say he's pretty on point

@Combinehuntsmanunit

Жыл бұрын

@@LutraLovegood on point

@ezrarichardson279

Жыл бұрын

@@LutraLovegood he’s on point

@plague1739

Жыл бұрын

That's one of the few comparisons that actually is accurate.

5:55 "Here's an image of a little man. He's doing very well and I'm proud of him." Thank you I love him

@Anotherchild_lol

2 жыл бұрын

Image of that little man supremacy?

@g0ld1e41

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anotherchild_lol yes kaja, image of the little man supremacy

@omargerardolopez3294

2 жыл бұрын

@@Anotherchild_lol Thank you two, I've created a sect with this, now we kickin' the -je- juice

@jimhaney6384

2 жыл бұрын

There are some people out there: "ITS 2021+WHY ISNT IT LIVE ACTION?!?!?" Because animation is good, and little man doesn't need to be real to like him.

@Anotherchild_lol

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimhaney6384 good

Oh boy, I bet Noods has some CHOICE words about Sora.

You have forever ruined my eyes and now i cannot shut up about frame rates Thank you noodle

The man, the hero.

@sperinthalakkat9831

3 жыл бұрын

The legend, you mean.

@Delak_Antoine

3 жыл бұрын

@@sperinthalakkat9831 the god

@ulqinaku8471

3 жыл бұрын

literally who?

@Sammytheflaaffyfan

3 жыл бұрын

The flippin' long thingy made of wheat and water and whatever.

@noahmiles9748

3 жыл бұрын

Wait ur alive

"You KNOW it's gamers." I felt that as a gamer and animator, it's definitely the gamers.

@FletcherCat

3 жыл бұрын

144 FPS animation when?

@maximyllion

3 жыл бұрын

i'm a gamer and fuck ai interpolation

@firstbits650

3 жыл бұрын

@@hunterclouse4371 Well, in "in-game" in 3D most objects/models will move equally independent of you frame rate, unless you are talking about sprites, more or less wont change the amout of expressions. But interpolating cartoonish games should be a crime

@sgtjohnson49

3 жыл бұрын

@@firstbits650 idk if it uses interpolation, idk shit about animation, but I do know Spyro Reignited looks much better at 120+ fps than at a fluctuating between 20-30 fps.

@Soklay16

3 жыл бұрын

@@sgtjohnson49 The thing with games and their fps is that you're playing it and moving it. Games are made to be played at a higher framerate. Animation, movies, etc are made at one framerate, you can't change that. Film is 24 fps, usually no more, no less. Games are interactive pieces where things are run in an engine that plays frames.

This is so true! I've seen multiple of these, and even though I often go with the public pov, as an artist (who wants to be an animator), this whole "Fixing animation with ai" thing feels completely wrong. I'm so glad someone talked about it.

i love the subtle movements of the lines on a character

How to make every single anime characters look like jelly when they are fighting punch by punch.

@weirdogirl1275

3 жыл бұрын

You want the puncher, especially his punch, to look solid like a battering ram and the person getting punched to look like he’s somewhere between jello and an actual person. If you are really going slow-motion for the punch itself, lean more into the jello factor. It makes it look soooooo funny and can really give a good comedic break amongst the intense fighting scenes. If you want it to retain intensity, pay more attention to the punches actually connecting and give the punched a really big reactive motion, like launching them across the space of the scene from the power of that punch. Btw, you should take all of this with a grain of salt, because I’ve never animated an action sequence in my life.

@cetinkaya_metal

3 жыл бұрын

@@weirdogirl1275 yes, also you can use jelly factor for giving your character more fluidity. Go watch Alan Becker's video on animation principles, its great

Can't wait for a madlad to turn this whole video into 60FPS

@harshsrivastava9570

3 жыл бұрын

i'm doing it lol

@abcdefg5686

3 жыл бұрын

@@harshsrivastava9570 evil

@vodkavodka8903

3 жыл бұрын

@@harshsrivastava9570 you son of a~

@depufull

3 жыл бұрын

sus

@eltioputo

3 жыл бұрын

On it

someone should take one of those videos, and leave only the ai frames in, no og frames

@MrOmegaScratch1

4 ай бұрын

That's actually not a bad idea

so happy that it's over, but I can still rewatch your videos

Thank God someone finally said it

@omarbkhaitan3106

3 жыл бұрын

wait why isn't their any replies on this ?

@thatweirdguy8810

3 жыл бұрын

@@omarbkhaitan3106 wait why is there only one reply on this?

@lovelyflowers9788

3 жыл бұрын

@@thatweirdguy8810 wait why are there only two replays on this

@hardwirecars

3 жыл бұрын

uhhh we have been saying it for a long time for the record us pc gamers are the ones that have been pushing this and we always ALWAY mean natural 60 (at least) is better but yeah unnatural frame skipping like he is talking about is dog shit.

@razmitora2214

3 жыл бұрын

I'm actually so happy right now. This trend has actually made me more mad than.... most things? And I'm glad it's finally be called out.

That jumpscare at the end is scary, but scariest part was that he used the AI

@J.L_art

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the warning before I watched it

@SlyFunkyMonkey

3 жыл бұрын

@@J.L_art i got a warning and still jumped

@mosuu

3 жыл бұрын

I read this, completely forgot during the video and I got scared xD

@DivisionRc

3 жыл бұрын

Bro I started to read this comment then the jumps are happened lmfao still got me

@tortilla1919

3 жыл бұрын

@@SlyFunkyMonkey same

3 years later, and I can confirm, AI has *not* gotten better with time.

@AsdrubaleAsdrubalini-nh4bo

21 күн бұрын

Bro lives at bikini bottom cuz there's no way

@ThePhillyCartel

8 күн бұрын

@@AsdrubaleAsdrubalini-nh4boIt hasn’t gotten better at this. An ai can’t make an animation 60 fps and make it look good. It’s guaranteed to fuck up frames and make it look shitty.

@IHaveAqInMyName

4 күн бұрын

@@AsdrubaleAsdrubalini-nh4bo we're talking about this interpolation software, it hasn't gotten better. Neither has ai art imo. AI art has just been getting fed people's artwork so they can steal someone's entire style or make their own art off of someone elses' hard work. AI hasn't gotten any better (at least interpolation and art ai in general, sora is okay I guess), the art looks the same as like week one of its release and the interpolation is just as bad as always.

Ok I know this is weird, but this video is one of my comfort videos. I'm on the spectrum, and when I get overstimulated I watch this. Idk but ur voice is comforting to me. I've memorized literally the entire script. I've watched this video around 30 times now. Also u really inspire me with ur fun art style and humor :)

@leventeszilardi9860

4 ай бұрын

you are ill

@nullimpact497

4 ай бұрын

@@leventeszilardi9860 no shit Sherlock

@leventeszilardi9860

4 ай бұрын

@@nullimpact497why so angy

@nullimpact497

4 ай бұрын

@@leventeszilardi9860 потому что могу

“Water boarding it in ketchup” is the single most fabulous phrase I have ever heard and I’m stealing it

@Hoolibas

3 жыл бұрын

Had to pause the video to laugh on that one.

@JAMBUILDER08

3 жыл бұрын

The quality of this analogy is top notch

@laughingfurry

3 жыл бұрын

I plan to use it, as well. "Why do you say that animation isn't good?" Me: "It's waterboarded in ketchup."

THANK YOU! It's about time someone brought this up. I feel like a lot of people don't understand that animation being 60 FPS (or more) isn't really the problem, but rather these algorithms that do a terrible job at interpolating the frames. If a talented animator decided to animate in 60 FPS and made every frame with attention and care I'm sure the end result would look fantastic. The higher frame rate just wouldn't usually be worth the effort. Maybe someday there will be an AI that can create perfect inbetweens but it would need to understand on a human level what the animation actually represents and how it should move. Edit: Though even then it wouldn't really suite all animation styles.

@Ericeepperi

3 жыл бұрын

Isn't it ironic too how most of your animaton is done with interpolation yet it fits the style perfectly

@sticksmustbeconsumed989

3 жыл бұрын

Uncle Donald

@justseffstuff3308

3 жыл бұрын

And at that point, if an AI really *understood* art, if it could learn and knew pretty much everything humans did, wouldn’t it basically be sentient? I wouldn’t want to make an AI do that, simply add a few frames to someone else’s work, so perhaps it’ll really never be possible

@JasonMaclane

3 жыл бұрын

@@justseffstuff3308 art is subjective

@deadpoolion4850

3 жыл бұрын

I think AI would definitely be able to replace inbetweener animators as they would be able to find patterns we wouldn’t be able to even comprehend. With enough time they would be able to figure out animation and people wont be able to tell the difference between AI and an animator.

Do you know impact frams in anime? Or maybe the way flip books go? Well ai changes that from it having that jittery feel that makes them good and have personality, to smooth and lifeless.

Really enjoyed the video! As someone who just graduate from a Master's in the field of AI I completely agree with you saying that it should be used as a TOOL! I can see the ways in which models could be construed to generate amazing interpolation frames and be setup in a way in which the artist can take the generation as a baseline and modify it until they feel it is perfect. All these new AI models being available to the public is a great thing, as long as they can be used as a tool and not a replacement.

This is the visual equivalent of “8D audio” remixes for songs where they slap random auto pan filters and reverb on an already mastered song completely ruining it

@danielak927

3 жыл бұрын

People really think they can make a thing, that was already fixed, improved multiple times and then released, better by adding a few effects or stuff, lol

@shakissaturn

3 жыл бұрын

I like 8d audio for the sole affect of me being in an empty room or the song playing from a far place, but I love the original more.

@zerocat888

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, I understand now.

@hkyle33

3 жыл бұрын

Omg so true

@auralynn3862

3 жыл бұрын

As a synesthete with enough damn spatial-acoustic processing BS going on to act like some kind of crazy-ass sonar and low-definition ultrasound just by existing near shit that isn't even making noise (why can I hear the structure of this filing cabinet?! Aaaaa) and go on magical journeys of instrument textures or even synth-induced psychedelic MIND MELT (the shit KNOWER did to "Die Right Now" is some kind of Eldritch, Escherian kaleidoscope of acoustic fake-outs wtf?) with an Audeze Mobius and well-mixed songs? FUCK 8D AUDIO. ... While intended to be humorous, none of this is facetious. Stupid fucking bat ears don't even process words that well. Whee sensory processing disorder. At least we can have fun with it!!! ... Why did those vocals sound like they tasted sweet....?????????

60fps Mulan: 5 mil views The criticism: 6 mil views

@concept5631

2 жыл бұрын

Mulan's now got 6 million at the moment.

@BlueverseGacha

2 жыл бұрын

@@concept5631 this video still has 400,000 more though

@concept5631

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueverseGacha Good.

@TheCapitalWanderer

2 жыл бұрын

@@concept5631 Good.

@Usugato

2 жыл бұрын

Good

After years of watching animation and watching how movement come to play in what you want to show, depending on your style and animation, 8 or less frames is great, sometimes higher is better but what was explained in the video, the software just doesn’t show what the animation is trying to do (plus it looks weird), hopefully there be more faster, simpler tools to help in animation ❤

2:44 ''the mind fills in the gaps between them'' this extremely important, imagine an AI adding extra words and sentences to your favorite book to help you understand whats going on...

@inliothixie

3 жыл бұрын

Good Point but not every addition of ai is good though, imagine adding 1 word to a sentence or word that completely changes the whole idea.Sometimes human just needs to be human

@Avistew

3 жыл бұрын

@@inliothixie Pretty sure that was their point

@Avistew

3 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to think what it would be like if we did that with comics. Twice the art by dividing each panel into two! Except the AI doesn't understand panel shapes, sizes, where to split dialogue, how to frame each panel, etc, etc. That would NOT be an improvement!

@melon4738

3 жыл бұрын

Example: Then, as George ran moved away from a the chicken animal rooster, blah blah blah

@ratchet1freak

3 жыл бұрын

it's the difference between an audio book created with text to speech and a talented voice actor.

This is the animation version of bass boosting everything

@Nullref_Arcana

3 жыл бұрын

24->60: Bass boost 12->144 Bass fry ear-r*pe

@besknighter

3 жыл бұрын

Those f*cking "8D version!!!" that are just a stupid 360 pan around of the song hgnnnnnn

@ollie-9335

3 жыл бұрын

Nah nah, this is more like, slowing and adding reverb type of shit

@GODF5

3 жыл бұрын

never seen shit this accurate before

@ponponpatapon9670

3 жыл бұрын

let's not forget about nightcore and daycore god, why do people have no fucking taste nowadays

I hate that it’s sometimes easier to find anime openings on YT at 60 fps rather than the original, it ALWAYS looks worse and you can tell immediately

@IHaveAqInMyName

4 күн бұрын

they can dodge copy-strikes by interpolating the footage.

Bro at the end I got jumpscared so hard I fell out of my chair

I commented on a video that used less that 12 fps before saying it was smooth and immediately my comment replies were filled with "bro thats only like 10fps, not smooth", but like, i commented it was smooth cause its impressive animating something smoothly with low fps hsiwjosjsidbaks idk where im goign with this comment

@bombituico

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@somecanadianboy667

3 жыл бұрын

Up my van you’re going

@firstquestion9174

3 жыл бұрын

people are obsessed with BeTTeR FRamE rATes?

@BroudbrunMusicMerge

3 жыл бұрын

The keyboard smash and the part after were really unnecessary for this comment, lol

@feliney

3 жыл бұрын

Yea thats the point its sooo so ahagsbshsn

“And you know it’s gamers” I have never been so offended by something I a hundred percent agree with

@user-is2zv4sc6y

3 жыл бұрын

Specifically it's gamers who don't understand there's a time and place for maximizing frames. :L

@dzieki_6569

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah we really need to learn that high frame rates only really matter in games

@deraj00

3 жыл бұрын

I just don't get the obsession, but then I largely can't tell the difference and when I can the higher ones are jarring to look at. But then I grew up on CRT TVs and prefer indie titles ( potato computers most my life and the rise of microtransactions), but outside that field most media isn't meant to go that frame rate. I basically have next to no experience with it so it looks like something is playing wrong when I do see it. Leaving things as the creators intended is generally how I like things anyway, the only real exceptions being if you can't get it that way without spending an arm and a leg or it's not possible. Niether really applying to this.

@overlordh1254

3 жыл бұрын

Probably PC gamers to be more specific

@Kahlls

3 жыл бұрын

I’m on Xbox one X I run 120 FPS with my monitor and if I ever switch it down to 60 FPS which I have a few times by accident it feels like your lagging almost or something is just off

3D animator here, interpolation is actually used in 3d animation (sometimes, not always) usually for high framerate stuff. This is because of 2 reasons as far as I can tell. First, the interpolation is built off of interpolating actual vertices, edges, faces, and bones in the program, so it's MUCH more accurate for animation than pixel data. Second, we can actually control how the interpolation works with something called a Graph Editor, which allows us to fix the Timing and Easing problem you brought up as well as interpolate different things (X location, Y Scale, Z Rotation, etc) differently.

@Liquifiedpizzas

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was looking for someone to say this. It's most obvious in games, but you could export a lot of CG animations at a different frame-rate too. It generally looks like 100x better than tweening in 2D animation does (not saying tweening is always the devil) but like, tons of frames in a lot of CG animations are from the skeletal animation being interpolated, and they do not look out of place at all.

As an animator i really had fun watching this video 😂 Thanks man fo sharing 🔥