Lsv, Kibler, and The Duke. Dream team was saved for last. Good job.

@michaelkerr2194

5 жыл бұрын

IGN DarqEspada my thoughts exactly

@jeremyphillips3087

3 жыл бұрын

Kibler the famous hearthstone player

@47Mortuus

2 жыл бұрын

Duke could be there or not be there tbh - no difference. I mean watch one of his vids. Says less then an introvert. **Yawn**

#0 - Contract from Below

@ChannelFireball

5 жыл бұрын

SS tier

@Laxontlyn

5 жыл бұрын

I only played contract in shandalar and I never lost when I cast that card, not once. It's insane! And you could play 4 of them! Granted, that game is not necessarily Magic as we are used to today, but still the memories of being a typical MTG noob and thinking that Lord of the Pit is the nuts and then realising where the real power is. Took a while, which is very funny in retrospective.

@andrewrowe1441

5 жыл бұрын

It's so good it goes below the best card on the list.

@Rorschachqp

5 жыл бұрын

Contract and Balance were the best cards.

@simons.7957

5 жыл бұрын

Where's Shahrazad tho? Permanently exile the opponents cards with the old ruling and timing the opponent out, when ahead in games is not really fun, but it's pretty strong.

Good calling having BMK, LSV, and Reid Duke at the end

Yeah. LSV, Kibler and Reid are such a good trio for this. All of them are very articulated, and Brian is just so energetic.

@watertreatmentsolutions

5 жыл бұрын

don't you mean he's high as hell.

@vy1585

5 жыл бұрын

Brian "Dont Call Me "Brian "Brian Kibler" Kibler"" Kibler

@BarginsGalore

4 жыл бұрын

V Y wow that took me too long

If it ever becomes safe for ~8 people to share 4 chairs again, I’d pay good money to see an updated top 200 with some of the cards that didn’t make this list, some of the cards that have been printed since, clearer criteria and longer discussions.

@Highstar7331

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds great

@benc7152

2 жыл бұрын

make it a show!

The Contract From Below shout out made me so happy, after playing 4 of it in Shandalar I truly understand how it is the real most powerful card of all time

Hi guys, since I'm one of the few that can correct you, I will- During playtesting, Time Walk said "take an extra turn." It was Starburst, also known as the red Time Walk, that said "opponent loses next turn." That caused confusion, it was meant to skip someone which was important in group play. But due to confusion it was never made.

Now, a video discussing: - Sylvan Library - Hermit Druid - Chalice of the Void - Goblin Recruiter - Reanimate - Voltaic Key - Earthcraft - Demonic Consultation - Chrome Mox - Mox Diamond - City of Traitors

@cameronworley1600

5 жыл бұрын

Vitor Pinheiro no

@anthonymenzer2462

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, I forgot Demonic Consultation wasn't on there... Seems like an oversight; that card was absolutely busted.

@zachhannah8927

5 жыл бұрын

And the strongest creature of all time: Cloud of Faeries. The disrespect...

@Entropic_Alloy

5 жыл бұрын

Was Liliana of the Veil on the list?

@shwift8789

5 жыл бұрын

Karn liberated not on the list but prime time was... hmmmmmmmmm

LSV, Kibler, and The Duke were a nice icing on the cake, but the entire roster was amazing! Great series!

I’m gonna need numbers 0 through negative 10 next week. Alternatively, the 100 worst cards countdown.

Tbh, this was way more nice to watch than I thought. Congrats cfb, usually I don't like your production but this one you guys nailed!

if #1 isn’t storm crow i am going to lose my mind

@futuropasado

4 жыл бұрын

trolling? lol

@namesurname7172

3 жыл бұрын

@@futuropasado I hope you're not serious with that question.

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

Mind= lost

@AB-sw4kb

3 жыл бұрын

Storm Crow's busted. Turn 2 you play Storm Crow, turn 23 you win. It's an unstoppable one card combo.

So happy to hear LSV mention Contract from Below at 23:23. It is absolutely the most powerful card ever printed, no contest, not even close.

@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS

3 жыл бұрын

gleemox

That'd be nice to have a remake of that in 2023 after the crazy last few years worth of power creep we've had.

this video is barely over 2 years old and it already needs an update. These last couple years have been absurd for power level

@xilunjin811

3 жыл бұрын

Oko and Uro are definitely in this list and approximately top 20

@DisregardedHappiness

3 жыл бұрын

@@xilunjin811 jace is the only planes walker on the list and I know oko is better. Oko is better than have Liliana and the 4 man's karn lol

@xilunjin811

3 жыл бұрын

DisregardedHappiness Indeed lol

@mr.joesterr5359

3 ай бұрын

lurrus would be number 1

@DisregardedHappiness

3 ай бұрын

@mr.joesterr5359 I would think one ring, oko, minsc and boo, some others I can't think of off the top if my head as well. Race to the top

“They would never even think about printing yaug will in standard” *Theros beyond death has entered the chat*

@DickNiaz26

Жыл бұрын

Underworld Breach is to Yawgmoth's Will as Concentrate is to Ancestral Recall

@BarginsGalore

Жыл бұрын

@@DickNiaz26 and that’s why concentrate is banned in legacy

@DickNiaz26

Жыл бұрын

@@BarginsGalore Power level is relative. In a format without the "creme de la creme" mana acceleration and card draw, sure it's going to cause problems. Sure, Legacy decks are power compared to MOST other decks. But they're still not Vintage... It's going to take a lot more sets to printed before Breach is on a restricted list like Yawg Will has been (for over 2 decades nonetheless!).

@mr.joesterr5359

3 ай бұрын

breach is stronger ​@@DickNiaz26

I still cannot believe wheel of fortune is 91

@mr.joesterr5359

3 ай бұрын

it should have been number 15 or so imho. nowadays aruably top 10 with how op breach combo is now

10. Yawgmoth's Will 9. Mana Crypt 8. Force of Will 7. Tolarian Academy 6. Brainstorm 5. Time Walk 4. Sol Ring 3. The Moxes 2. Ancestral Recall 1. Black Lotus

You guys have the best intro of all time. Bravo!

Great concise list thanks for all of your time and effort. Really enjoyed the videos. how long till top 100 worst?

Sylvan Library most definitely deserves to be on this list.

BMK, LSV, DUKE; three of the best minds to ever grace Magic.

Ancestral Vision draws 3... Wheel draws 7. Wheel should be #2!!!!!

@Cincinnatijames

5 жыл бұрын

Cost 3x as much, draws 2.33x as much and gives your opponent more Forces to counter what you draw into.

@omologo95

5 жыл бұрын

Cincinnati James Pretty sure that was a joke my friend.

@TheBoss4711

5 жыл бұрын

Although I do realize this is a joke, and I’m pretty sure you mean Recall, not Vision but I just want to leave this input anyway.. Wheel doesn’t consistantly net you more card advantage than Recall does. For example, even if Wheel is your very last card in hand it nets you +6, but if your opponent has 3 or less cards then they are +4 or better, which nets you +2 or worse (in 1v1 games). Sure it can be more, it can also be less, but Recall always nets you +2.

@BarginsGalore

4 жыл бұрын

Derek Albanese of course they meant visions it’s the same effect for one less mana. Duh

Fun! My daughter was digging around in our attic and found a couple of my old tournament decks from 1996. I stopped playing that same year because I was placed on academic probation (UT Austin) because every waking hour was spent playing magic. Driving to tournaments with my crew, playing for money, fifty bucks a game, two against two. My favorite was a black/blue/red hand destruction deck - every card was beta or black border. Time set, sapphire, jet, chains of mephistopheles, storm world (Italian of course!), Juzam, Necropetence, and yes a beta black lotus. I just started playing again and have found this channel and others like it super valuable and informative. I've got 20+ years of catching up to do. But Arena has made it possible. Maybe I'll run into someone from this channel online - my gamertag is Academic Probation :-D And obviously it's Lotus at #1. When you said recall, my heart sank. It just wouldn't be right. Lotus makes things real.

Brainstorm is legal in pauper, where Evolving Wilds is the best "fetchland", Ponder and Preordain are better in pauper, generally.

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

Opt is even better than ponder and preordain in pauper normally

This was so enjoyable.

I think flash was a huge miss. That card is often forgotten about, but I think it wins for being the enabler of the most powerful deck to ever exist in legacy at any point in magic history

Love how you gotta go down all the way to Jace at 15th to have an actual win condition!!!

The "Jesus Christ" from LSV was hilarious.

@Clockles87

5 жыл бұрын

Jesus Christ was omitted from the list

@DanG626

5 жыл бұрын

27:09

Contract from Below is the strongest magic card ever printed. All the MicroProse Shandalar OGs know it.

By far biggest omission was Liliana of the Veil, but planeswalkers in general got shafted in this list. Jace being the only one on there is quite wrong.

@SeanHrecho

5 жыл бұрын

LotV and Dack Fayden are the only ones that could be on here other than JTMS

@nelspaulson3099

5 жыл бұрын

@@SeanHrecho arguement could be made for making the top 100 list dac fayden, ugin, karn, lili of veil, lili the last hope, the new teferi, and if you count it flip jace.

@blacklotus561

5 жыл бұрын

Cause planeswalkers are not great cards historically speaking. Jace is the only one who actually made waves in other formats than standard. Liliana of the veil is a GOOD card, yeah, but not format breaking/defining like most cards on this list.

@nelspaulson3099

5 жыл бұрын

Veil was deemed to powerful to be reprinted. It was/is in many black x decks including abzan in modern. Karn is a staple for Tron. We can go on... If Jace is in the top 15, at least one other should make the top 100.

@wizardsmix7961

5 жыл бұрын

How can cards like vendilion clique make the list when the last time they were in the spotlight was years ago? LoTV, Karn, Baby Jace, even new Teferi vastly out perform many of the cards on this list.

Would you rather cast 3 ancestoral recall off of a black lotus or 3 black lotus off of ancestoral recall?

@BarginsGalore

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Beck ancestral recall into 3 lotuses into 9 ancestrals

@subzero308

3 жыл бұрын

The dream.

@DickNiaz26

Жыл бұрын

Lotus Petal - which is 1/3 of a Black Lotus is restricted. You can't say the same for Ancestral. Lotus > Ancestral. (Being 2nd best is no insult though...)

I just watched the whole series again, it great i would like channelfireball to make more things like this, but i am surprised by the second time, how is pendalhaven not on the list?!

I actually got mad when he said #2 black lotus

@funnymcfunfuns1455

3 жыл бұрын

I felt physically ill.

Thank you for the series. This video has demonstrated that these are four people I would love to have dinner and conversations with.

Just a few cards you missed: Glory seeker, grizzly bears, goblin instigator, tattered mummy, I mean come one, those cards are undeniably overpowered!!

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

Storm Crow. Duh

Thanks for the list and the content, guys! I haven't played Magic in about 5 years, but it's still fun watching along and reminiscing about all the awesome cards throughout the years.

The 3 rares in my first Revised starter deck where Drain Power, Crusade, and Helm of Chatzuk. There was also a Demonic Tutor in the pack. Now I can't find the card image for Crusade on gatherer because it shows crusaders.

#1 Charging badger

"The most common place people see Sol Ring is cube" .... Kibler has obviously never played Commander... Also, WOW Reid was quiet the episode.

@Welverin

5 жыл бұрын

There was a lot of talking about the old days and he seemed to be enraptured listening to stories from the older guys.

@acdvfb

5 жыл бұрын

Seems like something the Hall of Fame and Pro Tour types tend to go towards whereas most magic players have found commander to be the fun way to use up cards from draft/cracking/post rotation

2020 update: Dream Thrawler for me gets a spot! Questing beast, Nissa... Love those cards, maybe top 100 also.

@bryangiron5354

3 жыл бұрын

Dream thrawler has won me so many games, especially when you target it with Thassa

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

Oko, Uro, Once Upon a Time, Yorion....

I feel like they valued iconic-ness and nostalgia way too high. How strong a card is in a vacuum shouldn't be the only thing that matters sure, but like a card like cursed scrolls does not deserve a spot on this list just because it was strong in it's format.

On the Final Episode of "Is This Card Better Than Wheel?", the answer of course is "They better be!"

Has this been posted in list form yet?

brainstorm was also played in turbo land with thawing glaciers in old extended.

3:37 Duke calling LSVs "Value Yogs", "bad Yogs" 😂😂😂

#5 is my personal favorite card in the game.

So The probably should do a follow up for the biggest snubs(thinking tron lands, Karn, Sylvan Library, etc..), and one for cards that have been released only recently but should make the list(tefferri HoD, and Assasins trouphy).

Grim Monolith? It was not even in the top 100

@a.s.vanhoose1545

5 жыл бұрын

The art alone should put it in the top 100

@Cincinnatijames

5 жыл бұрын

Needs a lot of support to be more powerful

@shawndiaz7528

5 жыл бұрын

Outclassed by the other mana positive rocks. Can't pick them all

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

It's become even better since Zirda became a thing in ikoria

My personal favorite is #16 Lightning Bolt. I adore the simplicity of the design, the flavour, the colour identity, power level and versatility. It was basically the first non-creature spell I was introduced to, and 20 years later I'm still casting it in Modern.

I think the reason sol ring is acceptable in commander is just that EVERYONE can have one. Its not a mox that only people with money can have.

Good video. But someone should have a look at Mashi's microphone/sound level.

Top 10 Magic cards that 99% of players will never cast. Good list though!

@Ihaveacubeforahead

5 жыл бұрын

To be fair, sol ring's probably the most played spell in the game due to it being in every commander deck

@rodrigoazevedo1592

5 жыл бұрын

Brainstorm is a very accessible card

@Ihaveacubeforahead

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking that about brainstorm and force to be fair - even academy is less than a lot of modern cards - but the reason I didn't mention it is because while they are not too expensive on their own, the decks/formats they are played in are prohibitive for a lot of players. I even have a legacy deck but barely ever play it because there's no local scene. Even if you wanted to play brainstorm in pauper, it's not really a thing beyond magic online, at least where I live it's not

@jahpal9275

5 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair, you can play legacy for some 1.2/1.4k€, Death's Shadow legacy is super accessible to new player. I didn't mention Tolarian for the same reason, Powerless vintage is pretty dead at the moment, sadly. Feels bad for you man, but I encourage you to sit at a table in your LGS and ask to everyone if they play the format, I met a lot of Infect/Reanimator/Elves player where I live (pretty average city), i'd be surprised if no-one plays the format there!

@Cincinnatijames

5 жыл бұрын

1% here, kill the reserved list and save vintage from being a ghost town of 40 something year olds

20:50 LSV Confirms that he didn't start until they did the basic lands segment. Basic lands only 15 spots higher than Sol Ring and Moxes. Lol.

Great series!! But I think Oath of druids should be higher

@blueplayer6197

5 жыл бұрын

Nah it's right there at 48th, remember you can always play more basic lands so your deck's power level will be closer to top 20 rather than top 50!

I remember when this video first came out, and there is no way I would have believed you if you had told me that within two years there would be more than one card printed that would be in this discussion lol.

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

Lurrus and Oko could both certainly could have arguments made for them. Heck, maybe even Uro.

@DEVILONBOTHSHOULDERS

3 жыл бұрын

lurrus, zirda, oko, uro, underworld breach, thassa’s oracle, force of negation

Bazaar of Baghdad, number one in my heart (and I really think it's better than many of the cards from 16 to 1). No one loves dredge :(.

I really don't think brainstorm is top 10, but I know how powerful of an enabler it is for all of the other decks using some of these other broken cards.

Would love to see what this list looks like now haha

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

Uro, Oko and Lurrus could all have some serious arguments made in their favor.

How did you manage to misspell Kibler's name at the beginning? It's in his Twitter handle!

LSV is great

Reid Duuuuuke. He's the man, we were on the same crew team

this is the end my friend

To this day, I believe Kaladesh's problem is, the lack of interaction with energy. If a strong, cheap energy removal spell existed, then the majority of the problems would of been solved. Consider it the phithing needle or one with nothing printing strategy.

sure time walk alone is relatively harmless, but combined with many other staples such as snapcaster, eternal witness or yawgmoth's will it is a ridiculous, ban-worthy power house imho

So is storm crow 0?

Some ideas for cards that didn't make the list: I think the list needed more hate cards. Stuff like Blood Moon, Ensnaring Bridge, Chalice of the Void, even something like Rest In Peace. You may scoff at one or more of those but tell me they aren't more powerful than Vendilion Clique, Duress, or Dismember. Sometimes you play one of these cards and the opponent just scoops. Sylvan Library: I think the pros were surprised this didn't make it, too. It's great card selection in a color that needs it. Path and Fatal Push: I can see why these aren't included, because they aren't strictly powerful effects on their own. However, they allow for white and black decks to be playable in modern without splashing red or whatever to have a removal spell. You basically literally couldn't play Sultai in modern a few years ago because you had no reliable answer to 1 CMC creatures. Now you can because of Push. I'd (usually) play these over Dismember, depending on format. Inquisition: I'm not completely sure on this, but I think there's an argument to be made of Inquisition vs. Duress. It definitely depends on deck and if you're pre/post-sideboard, but Inquisition is a very powerful card. Splinter Twin: Possibly doesn't belong on this list, but it's a card that ends games on the spot. And combined with Exarch, it warped the modern meta. Second Sunrise: Unbearable to play against and watch, but it could reliably help you win in the first few turns. Liliana of the Veil: Stupidly powerful and the second best planeswalker. Karn Liberated: Dumb card that wins games. Tron lands: Enable dumb cards that win games. I'm okay with anyone saying my ideas are trash. Just thought it would be fun to throw out some really good cards that could've been on the list. I think I'd put Blood Moon, Lily, and Sylvan Library on for sure at the very least. Edit: Oh, also Assassin's Trophy and Teferi should be considered. Obviously one was new and the other wasn't spoiled at the making of this video, but they are both dumb cards.

where's the episode you put bonfire of the damned on I want to watch kiblers face on that one

I vaguely remember at one point reading or hearing about this being 12 episodes and not 11. Did something change, or there is a 12th and it's a Recap/Omissions/Retrospective and Too High/Low episode?

@francescogulisano2917

5 жыл бұрын

Maybe they were thinking of splitting this one up, as they did with the last two episodes that only had five cards each, but later changed they mind

@SmaugUKA

5 жыл бұрын

@@francescogulisano2917 Could be. They did get a pretty negative backlash when they did that prior.

@ChannelFireball

5 жыл бұрын

It was all filmed at once.

@SmaugUKA

5 жыл бұрын

@@ChannelFireball We know it was filmed all at once. We're talking about how it was broken down into Episodes.

@francescogulisano2917

5 жыл бұрын

That's a bit sad, I don't think there was anything wrong with splitting it more, if anything it offered a better insight into the card choice

Where's #15-11? it's missing from your playlist.

I know the mana cost is pretty high but Rules Lawyer is really good...

the commentary dream team

Great video to top off the top 100. I agree that 95% of the cards presented have a valid argument (Only strongly disagree with 5 cards being in the top 100: Counterbalance, Primeval Titan, Basic Lands (haha), Birds of Paradise and Wheel of Fortune). I would make a very strong argument for 7 cards I think you guys missed: Contract from Below (I think this is the best card ever), Chaos Orb, Grim Monolith, Candelabra of Tawnos, Regrowth, Hermit Druid and Spell Pierce.

@DickNiaz26

Жыл бұрын

Wheel of Fortune is better than all of those.

26:07 is too good, Reid asks LSV straight up in the beta draft, what card he would take after LSV has explained why Ancestral is a better card

Is it just me or does the intro for this video sound like the intro for galacticgod?

I think in this whole series the card that was mentioned the most times is Jamimeday tome

I liked the list for the most part but i do think even tho grave troll isnt the highest dredge count, the mechanic alone should have just taken the spot instead of troll

Yes, number one is exactly what you think it is ;)

You forgot Blightsteel Colossus. Despite its cost, it's one of the most complete finishers the game's got. It's got the exact set of abilities and power it needs to finish a game on one hit, literally. Maybe it would be better with flying, but that would be asking too much of an 11/11 infect, trample and indestructible. It deserved a spot. :/

@pedropohren

5 жыл бұрын

I'd go even further: he is the paragon of all infect creatures. :P

@treasureberry7154

5 жыл бұрын

Do you mean on the entire list or the top ten? If you mean the former maybe, but I don't think so. It's just worse than emrakul unless you're playing tinker. If you mean the latter, then you are really really wrong.

@pedropohren

5 жыл бұрын

The first. I'm not that stupid to think he would be any better than the cards in the top 10 lol. Tbh, i thought it would fit well somewhere in between 60 and 90 on the list...

@pedropohren

5 жыл бұрын

Or even you can cheat it on the battlefield using stuff like Kuldotha Forgemaster (like the MUD deck does in Legacy) or, a bit more expensive but if you're doing commander it goes well, a Planar Bridge.

@grahamoliver1470

3 жыл бұрын

Turn 1 in vintage: Play Mox Sapphire and Black Lotus. Tap the Mox. Cast Ancestral Recall with the blue mana. Sacrifice Black Lotus to add 3 blue mana. Cast Tinker grabbing Blightsteel Colossus from the deck.

28:37 This, 100%. This was the best comment of the whole video. Kibler is exactly right. And thats the reason why Ancestral Recall and Lotus are, and will always be the two best cards in the game. And it really doesnt matter which one is better because they are the best cards for the both most important things in magic: card advantage and fast mana. Drawing more cards than your opponent and playing things faster than your opponent is the key to win. I dont want to make a choice here but there are other things you need to take into account when comparing those cards: In a game of Vintage, drawing 3 for U is always broken, sure. On the other hand you also have to say that there are some situations, where a Black Lotus is not as good as it could be. But more about that later.. Duke is is saying thatMM is making Acall harder to resolve. While thats true, you have to remeber that in Vintage, there was never a time where you want to let an opponents Acall to resolve. There were always many counterspells and Acall was always a top target for those counters. It was never easy or safe that an Ancestral Recall resolves if you play it. Now onto that "When Lotus isnt as good as it could be" : Vintage is such a mana efficient format in general and playing a Lotus is not always as powerful as it, could be. So i think while Lotus is more versatile, its also not always as good as Acall and way more situational. Remeber, you have access to so many Manarocks and stuff that makes you additional mana, that you often have enough mana by turn 3 or 4. While its true that there are more degenerate things to cast early in 2021 compared to 1993, but always remember that you need those cards in your opening hand to make Lotus that good. Vintage games can easily, but usually doesnt end on T1-3. Thats what you can identify by watching any vintage championship matches here on YT, for example. If there is nothing worth to cast, or if Lotus is played when there is enough mana on the board (which can happen very quick, even without the Lotus) its a dead card which becomes more worse the longer the game goes. Additional to this, if you have the ability to cast more things faster due to fast mana, (which is great btw) its also important to have the ability to "re-draw" your hand to a certain amount. Running out of cards mean running out of answers to your opponent and to running out of wincons (if you havent drawn them yet.) But that is all situational. I agree that Black Lotus is often better in your opening hand, but it also depends on the rest of your hand too. I just want to say that even in current Vintage, Black Lotus isnt always better than Ancestral Recall. But that is all situational. Important is, and thats what matters, Ancestral Recall and Lotus are the both best cards ever printed and they deserved their spots because drawing more cards than your opponent and playing things faster than your opponent are the both most important things you need to win. Ancestral Recall and Black Lotus are the only cards that deserves the top 2 spots because no other cards could to those things that game breaking efficient. Ancestral Recall is the Yin to Lotus Yang.

Glad to see Paul Cheon getting out of the house.

The Aura of the Lotus.... Nuff said.

Watching this in 2021 is super funny with them only making a small passing mention to Commander lol

@ArianJafariTheMagnificent

3 жыл бұрын

Why is it funny?

@joshuadempsey5281

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArianJafariTheMagnificent because it's the most played format now, but back then it was almost an afterthought

@ArianJafariTheMagnificent

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuadempsey5281 isn't 60 card casual kitchen table magic the most popular format? EDH being more popular than that would be surprising to me, but I could definitely be wrong

@joshuadempsey5281

3 жыл бұрын

@@ArianJafariTheMagnificent I don't know anyone who plays 60-card casual anymore to be honest. I travel between about 4 local game shops and am in a lot of MTG groups on FB and forum sites, and basically everyone plays just EDH (casual and competitive). a small number play standard as well (but only competitively), and an even smaller number plat modern (also usally with a competitive format). I don't think EDH is more than 50% of games being played, but I'm confident that its most played format (kitchen table casual commander is what me and all my friends play. We gave up casual 60-card years ago.)

@ArianJafariTheMagnificent

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshuadempsey5281 the people playing kitchen table magic might not show up in those arenas though. they wouldn't hang out in LGS, post on message boards etc. Not necesarily saying EDH isn't the largest, but I think there are more people playing this game casually without interacting much with the larger magic-o-sphere than one might think.

Where did Gush rank ?

No joke, re-watching through most of these in the post-Modern Horizons era is pretty depressing. At least the top 10 are still classics. 🎉

10:51 Reid just doesn’t move

28:49 which word is Kibler saying between "important" ... and "so is"?? Something like "insequal" which isnt hardly a word? 🤨

@TheHadoukenSC

3 жыл бұрын

He says “and it’s like” very quickly

I still think that Dig and Cruise should be higher on the list. They were banned almost as soon as they were printed. Just absurd cards.

@DickNiaz26

Жыл бұрын

Dig & Cruise are excellent cards but Vintage has A LOT of broken cards. Mind's Desire, Burning were PRE-EMPTIVELY restricted/banned.

I wish they would have gotten better sound when they knew they would be in the same room for so long.

LSV I have the same siracha T-shirt

I think that if you are going to crap on time walk, you should at least include the “untap all permanents you control”. Wouldn’t hurt to include haste and the combat phase. But play a 2 mana spell into a 3 mana spell is nothing to scoff at. Demonic Tutor went from 2 to 4 in recent printings. Time Walk? 5 +, unless miracled on turn 3, which is still a nerf. If you have cast time walk enough you would know its an auto include in any deck that can legally cast it. Untap phase, op.

Late to this party, but I'm kind of surprised necropotence isn't higher. I played through the standard eras where necro was a thing and it was disgusting. I think 1996 was known as the black summer because you either played necro or you played something to try and beat it, there was no other meta. This and it's reprint in 5th edition created a period of time where you could play 4 necro in the deck and 4 dark ritual and if your opponent went first and played swamp, ritual, necro then you took a look at your hand and could probably concede before having a turn, in standard! Plus, as far as I'm aware the concept of card advantage winning games if not actually coming about as a result of necropotence was at least well and truly hammered home for evermore, so bit of a legacy there.

Storm Crow?

I am here for the Black Lotus

17:05 didn't he mean Soulfire Grandmaster?

@sdoroudi2226

5 жыл бұрын

I thought so at first too (because it goes infinite with Time Walk and debuted in the same set as Monastery Mentor), but I really do think he meant Mentor, which is the more playable card by far in Vintage. Mentor + Time Walk gives you two prowess creatures with effective "haste," plus a land drop, all your mana back (untapped lands and artifacts), and a card, which in a Vintage deck, can be enough for a win. If the Mentor (and any monks) weren't summoning sick, then it also gives you a free hit with at least 3-5 damage, before the next turn.

Duke comments on how force of will isn't that good.. and the thing is it IS that good.. it's the type of a good card that once it reaches its maximum intrinsic potential of strength, It will then actually still continue to get stronger as the cards around it get stronger. If there are more powerful things in magic, Force will be among them to contend with them. Not just because it stops their op stuff from being good, but also because it protects your op stuff as well. Ultimately though, I think the essence of what Reid said is right - it's kind of spooky that a card like force is on the top 8, when you'd expect to see a bunch of iconic things that basically win the game. Yawg's will, Mana crypt, lower on the rating over force? While surprising, I don't think it isn't deserving. I'm glad it was on the top 10!

LSV, Brian, and Duke all in one video talking to 10 cards... U literally put Chapin or nassif in this video with them and u have The Beatles of MTG IMO. Nothing against Mashi tho he's awesome too.

actually, the 'opponent loses their next turn' was the red time walk. never got printed due to confusing text

@watertreatmentsolutions

5 жыл бұрын

you are referring to the original text for the original time walk which was errated to what it is now, there was no red time walk.

@AllOutPsycho

5 жыл бұрын

they had two designs in pre alpha, time walk and a red 'time walk'

@watertreatmentsolutions

5 жыл бұрын

TheAllOutPsycho Where is the source material? That actually sounds pretty cool, id enjoy seeing that.

@AllOutPsycho

5 жыл бұрын

I'll see what i can do, but it was a vid from TheMisprintGuy. I'll see if I can find the vid it came from. I may actually be really fucking wrong and at this point I would like to know

@AllOutPsycho

5 жыл бұрын

Yo, here's a vid on it, I know theres another out there with better material. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4t7tJShYK-Zabg.html. In this vid he says ot was either this card first and then time walk or they had had them at the same time

Was this recorded in a hotel room?

I had a bunch of those… where were me other Time cards. Vault & Twister… 🤔