The Tom Brown Tracker: Who REALLY designed it?

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For the first time on video, the true history of the unique and controversial Tom Brown Tracker Knife is examined. Is it truly the brainchild of survivalist and tracker Tom Brown, or did someone else have a hand in the invention of this highly popular survival knife? Read the entire story here: www.utahknifeworks.com/tracke...

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  • @bluegrasssurvival9423
    @bluegrasssurvival94232 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for getting the truth out there. It really bothers me when people call this blade a bonified prop knife when that is the furthest thing from the truth.

  • @totheendful
    @totheendful3 жыл бұрын

    You probably don’t remember me, we met at a gun show and it was a pleasure and a honor to have met you. Than you for sharing your story with me. I have always been a huge fan of the WSK knife and I have one signed by you framed on my wall, with a picture of me meeting you that day. 👍🏻

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't remember you by name, but I remember meeting you at one of the Utah gun shows and taking a picture together. Thanks for your comment.

  • @Scarywoody
    @Scarywoody3 жыл бұрын

    Once you said Tom Brown was from Jersey I knew something was coming.

  • @Tone-def
    @Tone-def2 жыл бұрын

    thankyou, your updated knife looks more appealing.

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Unfortunately I don't have any more for sale at the moment. I hope to spin up another production run soon and have it available again.

  • @fixedbladejunkie9532
    @fixedbladejunkie95323 жыл бұрын

    So sorry that your dad didn't get his credit where it's deserved. However what I'm able to do as a person is pass along the truth as you tell it. And that's exactly what I will do. I don't own any tracker style knife but I am an avid fixed blade collector. Your father designed an absolute beautiful knife sir!! Thanks for sharing this story. Truly appreciate hearing the truth.

  • @bgjr2304
    @bgjr23043 жыл бұрын

    Lawsuit: The Robb Russon Tracker v. The Tom Brown Backstabber

  • @EnduranceRoom

    @EnduranceRoom

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂👏

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha! Yeah, by the time we found out that Brown had been out having the knife made based on my father's design, it was over 20 years later. Too late and too complicated to start legal action. In the end I just thought it better to produce a knife as true to the original design as possible, and tell the story.

  • @CenterMassContent

    @CenterMassContent

    10 ай бұрын

    😅😅😅

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh303 жыл бұрын

    A good brief on the history of the knife. And the info on your page is very thorough and telling how it was done back then and what went on later.

  • @theneon_turtle
    @theneon_turtle4 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Pretty amazing. I enjoyed the back information. Stuff like this happens a lot, especially with those who have something to market, such as Tom. I had wilderness training 101 with one of Toms students. He had a Beck made tracker which I fell in love with. When I decided to buy a Beck, he was back logged and then took a hiatus. I got A TOPs, which I review on my channel, and a Roger Linger version, which was featured in Blade back in 2005-2006. Thanks for this video. I love knives, no expert, but truly appreciate you and your father for bringing a knife I love to existence. I'm going to check your site and your version as well. I'd love to try one and review it brother. Have a good 4th of July!!

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your comments. I have talked with Dave Beck several times, and he's a great guy and fantastic knifemaker. He was also duped by Tom Brown, since he didn't know where the design really came from. Beck made a really good version of the knife, and continues to produce high quality knives. He makes them the way my father would have, had he continued to produce them after the original prototype.

  • @John..18
    @John..189 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video,, I'll never use the words Tom Brown, and "Tracker" , in the same sentence again,,.. I hope your father gets all the recognition he deserves,, I've just ordered a Boker Tracker, and I'm waiting for delivery,, (it's as much as I can afford to pay at the moment,,) Great video,, thanks again, for setting the record straight,, 🔪🔪🔪👍👍

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Boker makes a good version of the knife. If you haven't seen my other video, I have a full interview with my father about the story of the Tracker knife. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqWgzaipqsS3lLw.html&ab_channel=UtahKnifeWorks

  • @onetimeoutdoorsdj1394
    @onetimeoutdoorsdj13944 жыл бұрын

    Great story. Sorry your dad got screwed over. Unfortunately that happens way too often in the knife community.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    4 жыл бұрын

    Too true. It's one thing to emulate the styles and techniques of other artists, but something else completely different to flat out claim that the work of another is your own. Brown had plenty of chances to go back and collaborate with my father to produce the knife together, but then he'd lose some of the fame and the profits.

  • @aarondyer1315
    @aarondyer13154 жыл бұрын

    Very interested in this history thank you

  • @andresommer9571
    @andresommer957111 ай бұрын

    Great Design, I love it. Now I know where to say "Thank You!" Keep on going

  • @redroad53
    @redroad534 жыл бұрын

    Blessing to your father. Thanks.

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I'm slow at responding to these comments, I apologize.

  • @paulnordaker6995
    @paulnordaker69954 жыл бұрын

    I love the new modifications you did awesome . Father son colaberation even after death... 👍💯

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Paul. My father is actually still alive, but in poor health. He didn't have the energy to pursue any action on this, but backed me all the way. I'm just happy that I got the story out and was able to sell some "original" style knives.

  • @msh441
    @msh4412 жыл бұрын

    Definitely want to buy one out of principle. A shame it’s not being made right now. Will be watching for the next production run.

  • @je-fq7ve
    @je-fq7ve3 жыл бұрын

    Tom showed us this knife in the 80's when he was working on it.

  • @Ego_Katana

    @Ego_Katana

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. I attended his standard class in 1987 and was working on a modified skinner style.

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    3 жыл бұрын

    What he showed you was likely the knife my father made. Brown was not a knifemaker, and if you read the letters posted on my website written by Brown, you will see that he just capitalized on someone else's genius.

  • @HARMARSCH2
    @HARMARSCH23 жыл бұрын

    Very good video. Enjoyed it. I was thinking of buying a Topps knife but instead will purchase your knife. I see lots of different variations of the tracker knife.

  • @VanishingNomad
    @VanishingNomad2 жыл бұрын

    This is EXACTLY why I wont share my knife design until I have a patent on it.

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    A wise policy. Unfortunately, my father was too trusting back then, and sent his design to Brown for feedback. Instead, he got screwed over.

  • @bazzc

    @bazzc

    2 жыл бұрын

    A patent of a knife design is very difficult to get, very expensive and only for 1 country at the time for a short period of time.. also when other makers change some features ( angles, shape of saw, handle,... ) It's not a copy of that knife anymore so the patent is a waste of money. In these times it's hard to get credits as a designer: production companies ask to give up the rights of the design... Got my own designs, influenced bij other knives and asked permission at the original disigners to proceed and worked with a local custom knife maker and friend to make some prototypes. Contacted a few companies but I'm from a little County in Europe so they are not that keen... If companies are not willing to sign a nda in my advantage or ask me to give op the copyrights it ends.. When you give someone a knife as a gift without terms or conditions you can only hope they have the honor to do the right thing. Most people will do not...

  • @martinguerre8220

    @martinguerre8220

    2 жыл бұрын

    Patent too expensive just post some photos in ig or something

  • @hectorsoto9602
    @hectorsoto96023 жыл бұрын

    I own both the Tracker 1, and the UKW... Love them both. I use the T1 in the field , and the UKW for everything else around the house and my wooded property. Though the UKW Tracker would be just as handy in the field for sure.

  • @bartjames100
    @bartjames10010 ай бұрын

    Just watched the interview with you and your dad. Then this video came up. Like I said my next one will have Robb Rusen on it.

  • @utahknifeworks5443
    @utahknifeworks5443 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, for those who are not aware, I just posted an interview with my father, the original designer of the Tracker knife on my KZread channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqWgzaipqsS3lLw.html&ab_channel=UtahKnifeWorks

  • @BushcraftWoodsDevil
    @BushcraftWoodsDevil Жыл бұрын

    I read the UKW website article about this and it was fascinating. A shame your Dad didn't receive the recognition he was due. That has to be one of the most copied patterns out there. There's profusion of them offered by foreign producers on AMAZON. I read Brown's book [The Tracker] and it's fun reading but personally, I don't buy the whole Stalking Wolf tale. Without naming him, Dave Holladay has hinted that Brown basically plagiarized Larry Dean Olsen's work, so the Survivor knife event doesn't surprise me in the least. At least you can take comfort that your Dad gifted a remarkable tool to the world's outdoorsmen.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I have had such positive support on this effort to at least get my Dad some recognition.

  • @rebelyell2741
    @rebelyell27412 жыл бұрын

    What an incredible story! I hope your father is vindicated. I like the original design. The inner edge is at an angle. Not horizontal. I like that. It adjusts for the natural bend in the wrist when you apply pressure carving. I think your dad did that on purpose. About half the worlds population has a genetic mutation causing a ligament in the wrist used for clinging to trees to be missing. That angle in the first half of the blade is the adjustment for this missing ligament. Used to lock the wrist in a straight position. If you don’t have the ligament, your wrist will bend until it locks at its furthest point.

  • @bushtrash2286
    @bushtrash22863 жыл бұрын

    I'm homeless by choice in the AZ desert, I own this knife, it is really good at most tasks, I use the tracker knife the most, I own the Alaskan harpoon and the BOB from tops as well, to me it does not matter who invented it... point being it is well made knife... I use it for cooking to using the saw to collect dry grass.. yes it can do that really well, the knife is my EDC along with my BOB when i'm out in the desert, witch is most of the time.

  • @michaelsmiley15
    @michaelsmiley1511 ай бұрын

    It has been well speculated that tom brown used one or more designs that he got from other people to mass produce the tracker knife

  • @masterchief586
    @masterchief5864 жыл бұрын

    Its the best selling knife the last 20 yrs. It must be decent or it wouldn't sell very well. I bought the original version and will buy the T2 and T3, possibly the T4 at some point. Good video you made.

  • @BiitchSlapper
    @BiitchSlapper3 жыл бұрын

    I used to work in a machine shop a long time ago that produced the Tom Brown knife for students of his school. They were made out of sheets of tool steel.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's interesting. This might be a missing piece of the story that I haven't uncovered before. What was the shop called? Do you know of any knives around that came out of that shop? Would love to see what they looked like.

  • @BiitchSlapper

    @BiitchSlapper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 It was “Lombi Machine” (not sure if I spelled correctly) in Bergenfield, NJ. The owner Ed Lombi’s father or great grandfather invented a ravioli machine.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BiitchSlapper now it makes sense. Ed Lombi was the first maker to be given my father's knife as a prototype to create more for Tom Brown. He didn't turn out many, and I've talked to a couple of people who owned his version, which had wood handles. What happened between then and when Brown hooked up with Dave Beck is the gap I don't know much about.

  • @BiitchSlapper

    @BiitchSlapper

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 I only worked there a short time, and mostly saw blanks and patterns scribed out on plates. It was an interesting design. It may have been a tad shorter overall, but still the basic shape. Not surprised at the low production numbers, the shop I worked at hardly made any ravioli machines, either. Ed was somewhat of a hippie. Very laid back. Maybe the school history may hold some answers, as I remember all students were required to purchase the knife.

  • @joshdoddadbod
    @joshdoddadbod5 ай бұрын

    I think this will be my next knife. Seems like an interesting design. Expect an order from Alberta Canada in the coming weeks 😊 I'll do a demo and review on KZread to bring it more attention as well.

  • @Lion_Hamza
    @Lion_Hamza Жыл бұрын

    I think many time’s we give the tools we use to much importance while we give the technique’s we use not enough importance.

  • @AbuMajeed3957
    @AbuMajeed39573 жыл бұрын

    thank you very much

  • @tonyjedioftheforest1364
    @tonyjedioftheforest13643 жыл бұрын

    A very interesting video. Something similar happened with the Bowie knife. Originally designed and made in Sheffield more than 200 years ago Jim Bowie made the design famous so it took his name. As you said Tom Brown developed the design by making it much larger than your fathers original then made 3 smaller versions. Dave Beck put his spin on it as have Dave Wenger and yourself. E J Synder has taken part of the design in his excellent Tops SXB and SXS to make probably the best survival knives to take anywhere. Designs do evolve in anything made by man but I agree your father needs to be credited for his original concept and Tom Brown should give him that credit. Why don’t you write an article for Blade magazine to get the credit your father deserves to a wider audience?

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, Dave Beck received the pattern of my father's knife from Brown, who had first taken it to a knifemaker named Ed Lombi. Lombi produced a few knives from my father's original pattern, but the quality wasn't there. Brown then went to Dave Beck to have it made "right". Beck is a talented knifemaker who was really the person responsible for making a marketable version of the Tracker knife. He was duped just like Lombi was, as neither of them knew that Brown had simply brought them my father's design. I have spoken with Beck on a few occasions, and he's a great guy and very skilled knifemaker. It was his version that TOPS Knives finally made their version from, and continue to produce to this day. All of this is detailed in the story on my website, including letters written by Tom Brown. I encourage anyone wanting more details to read the story on my website.

  • @tonyjedioftheforest1364

    @tonyjedioftheforest1364

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 thank you for explaining further but not everyone uses KZread so again it would be best to write an article for Blade magazine so everyone that matters knows the truth. Your father deserves the recognition. What does Tops think? They are a honourable company so may put something on their site for you.

  • @mtnyoda3257
    @mtnyoda32572 жыл бұрын

    I could believe this and actually do. Thanks for the knowledge.

  • @Outcaste153
    @Outcaste1533 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting to learn this thank you for sharing and sorry about your dad. I read your website and the facts show what you say. While I was there I did see something and will email you with my questions.

  • @n8mayfield
    @n8mayfield4 жыл бұрын

    Interesting, I’ve heard a similar story about the design, but it was handed over to Beck who refined the design because the original designer couldn’t or wouldn’t keep up with demand. After the movie Tom took it to TOPS and they came up with a cost effective version called the medicine blade. Just my understanding, though it has no gauge on why I like it or why I use it. I honestly don’t dwell on it’s origins, but I like what you did, trying to break away and add some additional features, but....the saw would I fear puncture the gut trailing behind the hook like that, and the crowbar thing looks like it would dig into your hand using the belly to chop, shape, and sculpt, with your hand in the rear position. Curious why you didn’t mention the others Tom worked with on the design and only the TOPS. Been using this design for a while, I’ve seen a lot of different translations, yours is definitely unique

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have you visited my website? As I mention in the video, this is just a teaser. The whole story, including Bo's involvement, the parts played by Ed Lombi, Dave Beck and even my conversation with the founder of TOPS Knives, is all detailed on my website. As far as the teeth getting in the way when using the gut hook, I've had feedback from several hunters who have cleaned big game with the Survivor, and said that it's not a problem. Here's the link to the page with the full story: www.utahknifeworks.com/tracker-knife-story

  • @n8mayfield

    @n8mayfield

    4 жыл бұрын

    Utah Knife Works I have to be honest, like I said before I don’t get caught up in all that. I’ve been using the design for years, I’m only after function, not brand or name. This might sound harsh, and I don’t mean it to be, but it looks like you took a perfected and tested design and added cowbell to it, turned it into a mall ninja knife

  • @n8mayfield

    @n8mayfield

    4 жыл бұрын

    Utah Knife Works to be fair though it’s not just you that’s done it. I get messaged a lot about it, questions from makers about the design aspects and people that are curious or interested in buying one. A lot of time spent answering questions...a lot, I don’t even make knives. But with makers it seems like ego sometimes takes over and they always have a way to make it better, I sent one back to a guy that thought he knew how to make it better by adding a chisel grind to the draw. Wiped out the quarter rounder to do it and made it unusable as a knife, at that point it was only a draw knife. I’m no expert, but I do use it. Just my two cents. I am great full your father had a part to play in it, because to me it just makes sense

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@n8mayfield I think you're missing the point of this video. It's not to introduce my "enhanced" version of the original design--it's to make the point that this unique knife was designed by my father, not by Tom Brown. If you read the entire story on my website (which I'm thinking you didn't), then you'd understand that the person who took a perfected and tested design and turned it into a 2-pound hatchet masquerading as a knife--that person is Tom Brown.

  • @n8mayfield

    @n8mayfield

    4 жыл бұрын

    Utah Knife Works that 2 pound hatchet is again the TOPS, Beck and the versions I own weigh half that with better geometry. Heft is highly overrated on a tool used like a crafting axe, but with the right geometry a tool half the weight can do the same job with less effort. Here is my suggestion, like I said I don’t get caught up in the story, but I do know that Tom owns the Tracker name and rights, change the name of yours to Tracker and settle it all out in court. I’m not a fan of Toms, read a couple books, but if that’s what you truly want to do here is give credit where credit is due. It’s important to go through the right channels

  • @tonyvillarreal3610
    @tonyvillarreal36103 ай бұрын

    Whats next , did you design crocodile Dundee's knife

  • @redroad53
    @redroad534 жыл бұрын

    WOW!! Thank you for sharing. Now I'm interested in one of these knives. Without feeling guilty and keeping an honor of the maker. Where and how would I find a true knife of such?

  • @manwhowearsabox3116

    @manwhowearsabox3116

    4 жыл бұрын

    Look at William Collins Survival knife, the man is a master with knives.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for not being able to be on here all the time to make responses. My knife is available on my website, www.utahknifeworks.com. I also have the detailed printed story as told here, with pictures of the actual correspondence from Tom Brown to my father.

  • @steveleohr8963
    @steveleohr89632 жыл бұрын

    I have a David Beck Tracker, might to get one for review.

  • @dustyboard2247
    @dustyboard22473 жыл бұрын

    I have David Becks personal Tracker knife with companion knife, perfect condition. would sell both for the right price.

  • @forestmantis1737
    @forestmantis17374 жыл бұрын

    That is interesting, just point - in 6:20 about you said the weight of TOPS T1 is about 2 pounds, which is too much, yes it is heavy but less then 1,5 pound (cca 600g - my T1:-) ). FM

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the correction there. I show 25 oz. with the sheath, so it is less than 2 pounds.

  • @utahknifeworks5443
    @utahknifeworks5443 Жыл бұрын

    Hello, viewers! If anyone is interested, I just launched a Kickstarter campaign to produce the "Russon Tracker" as designed by my father in 1981. www.kickstarter.com/projects/utahknifeworks/utah-knife-works-original-tracker-survival-knife?ref=ksr_email_creator_launch

  • @guillermoa.nerygomez8782
    @guillermoa.nerygomez87822 жыл бұрын

    I hope you would at some point consider production of this knife in a good stainless steel, as I live in a very humid part of the world and would like to acquire one.

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your comments. I am seriously thinking about doing another production run of the knife. One of my top choices would be to use D2 tool steel, which is considered semi stainless. That was the original choice of my father when he designed the knife. But there are a lot of new options for steel on the market now, so I would look at the best balance of corrosion resistance and toughness.

  • @guerrierodelgiaguaro
    @guerrierodelgiaguaro Жыл бұрын

    Hullo Sir, it seems (24:40) that its width is 5 millimiters, if so, it is good also for batoning: I would like very much to see it in Italy.

  • @markrussoncomedyhypnotist3697

    @markrussoncomedyhypnotist3697

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, I believe the stock was 5.25mm thick on the Survivor knife that we made. If you watched my other video with the interview with my father, you will know that I am going to run a Kickstarter campaign to produce the original Tracker knife as designed by my rather. The plan is to use 5.5mm steel. I will have that campaign running shortly. I know that there are restrictions on shipping certain types and lengths of knives outside of the U.S., so I don't know yet what countries I will be able to offer it to.

  • @guerrierodelgiaguaro

    @guerrierodelgiaguaro

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markrussoncomedyhypnotist3697 Hullo Sir, yes, I watched and commented the video with the Professor.

  • @BadkarmaLostcauze-pn8xj
    @BadkarmaLostcauze-pn8xj Жыл бұрын

    Let put ur dad and Tom in the woods with a tracker who ever comes out alive wins😂😂😂😂

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, two guys pushing 90 going at it in the woods would make a great reality show, especially since my Dad can hardly walk! But give him a gun and he doesn't miss :)

  • @andrewsowik6075
    @andrewsowik60753 жыл бұрын

    Tuesday I'm buy one of these hopefully you have one left if you so save 1 for me I really want one.

  • @johnhill7585
    @johnhill7585 Жыл бұрын

    Tom Brown has pushed the narrative since the beginning that he designed the knife. In a way he's correct in contacting your dad with his requirements. BUT, the design is clearly Robb Russon's which Tom approved. It bothers me how people in the public eye with big egos claim credit for stuff without giving credit to others who really deserve it.

  • @michaelgutzke1552
    @michaelgutzke15523 жыл бұрын

    Interesting story, I am curious if you have any proof to back up these claims tho. I’ll still probably buy the Tops version since Tops knives are very reputable and Ive never heard of your company. What steel is your tracker made from?

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you visit my website at www.utahknifeworks.com, the entire story is told there, including letters written by Tom Brown himself. Also a copy of his newsletter where he gives my father credit for the knife. That's the proof.

  • @andrewsowik6075
    @andrewsowik60753 жыл бұрын

    Is your knife avalible for purchase what is price on it

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I sold out of the "Survivor" knife, but I will soon be releasing the original design that my father made in 1981. It takes time and money to put these things together, but I will be making the knife available again.

  • @waynecole7781
    @waynecole77813 жыл бұрын

    Beck Knives Wilderness Survival. The same knife is the original knife in the movie "The Hunted" with Tommy Lee Jones and Benicio Deltoro....

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Dave Beck was the first guy that Brown went to with the design who really knew what he was doing. He made (and continues to make) a very high quality knife. Nice guy, I've talked to him. He was duped by Brown like a lot of others.

  • @jbaz007
    @jbaz0073 жыл бұрын

    That is a pretty big claim. I would love to see the letters of correspondence between the father and tbj.

  • @jbaz007

    @jbaz007

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@generallobster that does sound rather absurd.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look on my website, I've got all the letters.

  • @WebWolf2022
    @WebWolf2022 Жыл бұрын

    I assume your Lawsuit was successful?

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    No, there was no lawsuit. My Dad always felt that going down that road would bring a lot of grief to an already bad situation.

  • @nawat73
    @nawat733 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to have one if it didn't have that gut hook.. I'm a fan of the design.. was wondering what you would want to make me an original off your father's original design. I just haven't ever been a fan of gut hooks...

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Sean, the gut hook was a feature added by me, more as a utility hook than an actual game processing gut hook. Many people use it for slicing rope, or sharpening sticks or shaving curls for fire starting. It's extremely sharp. But I understand your desire to have a true "original" pattern. I've sold out all of the knives I had produced, but will soon be offering a completely handmade Version II that will not have the hook, the saw teeth or the offset bevels. I know--that sounds like just another knife. But I've kept the same basic profile of my father's original design. This might be something you'd be interested in. I hope to have the first model out on my website within a few weeks. Keep checking back. Thanks!

  • @nawat73

    @nawat73

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bluesharp5004 i get what you're saying i just don't have a need for that feature.. but collect the pattern and would just love to have one of the original design in my collection.

  • @OveToranger
    @OveToranger8 ай бұрын

    I guess "Grandfather" wasn't the designer after all....always sounded a bit strange to me as native americans - as far as I know - never had a lot of knivemaking going on after they got access to steel. Mostly they traded or got them in other ways.

  • @nidannow
    @nidannow3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t doubt this is a true story to be fare, With thousands of designs of knives out there, they’re going to over lap I’m just happy I have one. My only question really is why wait 20 years to tell the world your dads story ?

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Again, I answer this question in my full story written on my website. Please check it out.

  • @marioareal
    @marioareal3 жыл бұрын

    No matter what, I believe the truth has been restored and you have not just that right but also that duty... Taking out that, now I prefer to look to the evolution that you created on the "Survivor". Is there any particular promotional video?

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, I don't have any kind of promotional video. Just the story as told here and on my website.

  • @marioareal

    @marioareal

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@utahknifeworks5443 but will you produce it and sell it?

  • @ralfyellowknifedietl6159
    @ralfyellowknifedietl6159 Жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @robvancamp2781
    @robvancamp27813 жыл бұрын

    Not the first controversy the ol' boy's been involved in...

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    'Tis true. He's a colorful character to say the least.

  • @mikebillman8089
    @mikebillman80893 жыл бұрын

    The gut hook is a huge non starter and will be difficult for the average guy to sharpen and maintain for the limited percieved value it might add.

  • @ROE1300
    @ROE13003 жыл бұрын

    Very good 1st attempt at a KZread video.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, you're being generous, because it puts me to sleep to watch it :) But thank you! I hope to be posting more material here soon on my knifemaking.

  • @redroad53
    @redroad534 жыл бұрын

    One question. Where was the Native American "logo" come from? Which Native American Tribe does it represent?

  • @masterchief586

    @masterchief586

    4 жыл бұрын

    Apache

  • @masterchief586

    @masterchief586

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JungleBoyUKProductReview don't know.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's part of Brown's mystical nature guru facade because he claims that an old Native American taught him tracking skills when he was a kid growing up in New Jersey. No one has ever proved that the "Grandfather" character ever existed.

  • @martinguerre8220
    @martinguerre82202 жыл бұрын

    What's the point of separating the grinds if the grinds are the same?

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good question. My father's original idea was that the front part was to be used for chopping, so it should be curved and slightly forward-heavy. Offsetting the straight-cutting edge made for a slightly lighter knife, instead of just one big blade with a single edge all the way down. It also allowed for a perfectly straight section for making whittling cuts or shaving down sticks. I added the "gut hook" feature, which actually is more useful for sharpening sticks or shaving off bark than being an actual gut hook. It's a unique knife, for sure, and not to everyone's taste, because you can't make it do everything perfectly. But it was an attempt to cover a lot of bases with one tool.

  • @pondoknira117
    @pondoknira1173 жыл бұрын

    Gw mah Abis dari atas Dia mah ditahan harus ganti costum

  • @rawdog5506
    @rawdog5506 Жыл бұрын

    David Bec WSK is the original.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    Check out the new video I just posted, if you're willing to spend an hour: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqWgzaipqsS3lLw.html&ab_channel=UtahKnifeWorks. Dave Beck played a part in it, but his wasn't the original.

  • @pondoknira117
    @pondoknira1173 жыл бұрын

    Maksudnya majapahit/srivijaya

  • @chriswood5940
    @chriswood59402 жыл бұрын

    Had to speed up vid to 1.75x’s. Interesting though

  • @KING-NOMAD
    @KING-NOMAD3 жыл бұрын

    I will probably disappoint you, but the form of the Tracker knife already existed in the USSR under the general name UVSR machete.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not even the same thing. It's laughable to imply that my dad copied a machete. And that's not the first cutting tool to have teeth on the back.

  • @KING-NOMAD

    @KING-NOMAD

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 We misunderstood each other, I do not at all claim that your father copied something. And I'm not saying that the Tracker knife was invented in the USSR, I'm only talking about the fact that the shape of a blade with two types of descents for cutting and delicate cutting already existed in the USSR under the general name of the UVSR machete. And the Tracker knife was invented by your father for which he thanks a lot, he is a Genius! I just meant the very shape of the blade and all the fact that they are not alike, yes it is, but the functions in them are the same and that is what I wanted to convey to you.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KING-NOMAD Thanks for clarifying. I didn't mean to sound so defensive. You know, there were swords in England in the 17th century that had saw teeth on the back. And Bo Randall had them on a couple of his knives that date back further than the design of the Tracker Knife. It's very hard to call any cutting tool totally unique, because it's all been done in one form or another. My Dad's knife was a unique combination of features, but surely he was influenced by many other sources. Like I tell on my website, the design was strongly influenced by the knife used by Horace Kephart. What sticks in my craw the most is that Tom Brown basically stole the prototype sent to him as a proposed business venture, and claimed it was his own. Thanks.

  • @KING-NOMAD

    @KING-NOMAD

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 There is one wise saying: everything is new, well forgotten old. Thank you for the story. I went to your site. Yes, very, of course, sorry for your ots. I repeat again, he is a Genius! and the story with Tom Brown once again confirms another saying: trust, but verify.

  • @MrPh30

    @MrPh30

    Жыл бұрын

    The Spetznatz machete as its called and its cousin the Cosmonaut machete which also doubles as a holster stock for the 5,45x39 / .410 Drilling combo gun pistol sized survival weapon.

  • @milladazadi
    @milladazadi Жыл бұрын

    Dear mr Russon. I want to buy the original knife and support you. Where Do i buy it and i Can not buy it on kick starter. I was late. Please help.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    For anyone who did not get in Kickstarter, the knife is going into production this week, and I should be shipping it by mid-January. I will have it on my UKW website. Keep checking!

  • @milladazadi

    @milladazadi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 that is awesome. Thank you for the design og This tracker knife. This is the biggest gift to hunan kind

  • @marcus_mayhem
    @marcus_mayhem4 жыл бұрын

    Your father invented a great knife!!!!

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the positive response. I admit I'm not a great narrator and probably put most of you to sleep, but I wanted to put the story out there for those who are interested in how this popular design really originated.

  • @marcus_mayhem

    @marcus_mayhem

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 I own several of them and carried one overseas for several rotos. CQB weapon was a karambit. (GTFOM)

  • @John-oz1do
    @John-oz1do Жыл бұрын

    Your Dad was a great man, when i use the knife i will remember his name if you let me know it! Life is like that and shame on Tom Brown.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    His name is Robb (Robert) Russon. Thank you for your comments. I will pass on your praise to him. He's not very tech-active 😁

  • @onetimeoutdoorsdj1394
    @onetimeoutdoorsdj13944 жыл бұрын

    I think you should try and make a new knife and leave the tracker knife alone.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    4 жыл бұрын

    I will continue to sell my version of the knife my father designed, but if anyone is interested in my other work, please check out my website. I've been making and selling knives for over 20 years, and I have a small sampling of some of the knives I've made on my site. It has taken me years to refine my designs, trying to find out what works, what I like, and what other people like. Knifemaking is my passion, and I hope to be posting more videos to share some of my knifemaking knowledge. Honestly, I'm not comfortable in front of a camera, but I'll work on that. I think I have a lot to share. I'm actually working on my own completely unique version of a large camp knife that is unlike any of these "Tracker" knives. I hope to have it on my site soon.

  • @dfghjdefrgthxcv

    @dfghjdefrgthxcv

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ONETIME OUTDOORS Dj - Did you even read/view the information & documented/photographed proof that he (Mark Russo), as well as Bo Gulledge just provided? It absolutely PROVES these claims. How about instead, telling your guru-fraud Tom Brown that he should stop lying, cheating and stealing the Physical Time, Labor and Intellectual Property from other much more talented, hardworking and honest people? TOM BROWN should be the one to get off his plagiarizing ass, make his own originally designed knives and leave other people’s knife designs alone- A knife design that- I might remind you, has an established paper-trail and personal testimony that this knife design was shared with him in confidence and trust, DECADES before he suddenly “thought-up” the idea on his own. Plagiarism is the deepest layer of frog-shit scum in-the-bottom-of-the-swamp LOW.

  • @requiscatinpace7392
    @requiscatinpace7392Ай бұрын

    My dad invented gravity before Isaac Newton stole it!!

  • @weaver_1
    @weaver_1Ай бұрын

    The facts are this Who gives a shit who designed it it's all about the guy who had the balls to put it into production ...

  • @pondoknira117
    @pondoknira1173 жыл бұрын

    Bahasa Indonesia 🙄🙄😉😭

  • @masterchief586
    @masterchief5864 жыл бұрын

    The 2 knives are a different animal all together. You fathers original is different from TB-T1 by Tops. Sorry brother but they are very different.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    4 жыл бұрын

    I wish that viewers would study all of the details I provide on my website about the history of this knife before making comments. "Tom Brown's knife", as he sells it today is manufactured by TOPS Knives in Idaho. But before that, it went through some morphing over 40 years as Brown took my father's knife from maker to maker to reproduce it--much like making a photocopy of a photocopy, etc. That caused minor distortions. The point is that the CONCEPT of this knife, with the forward chopping edge, offset straight edge, saw teeth at the front--all of these features were never seen in a knife in that form before my father's design. Sure, Brown widened and thickened the blade and put an extra finger groove in the grip, but it's the same knife at the core. Anybody can see that.

  • @markthompson8246
    @markthompson82463 жыл бұрын

    Why don't you sue Tom Brown?

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's not that simple. Even though there is proof in his own letters, it's hard this long after the fact to dig up the whole history and make a case. Knives are very hard to patent, which is why he doesn't have a patent on the design either. The slightest variation in design can cause two knives to be considered "different". Besides, Brown has lots of money for lawyers, and I don't.

  • @markthompson8246

    @markthompson8246

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 So who owns the design? Tops?

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@markthompson8246 TOPS is only one of many companies to produce copies of my father's design. They don't have a patent on it either. Nobody does. Brown may have trademarked the "Tracker Knife" name, but that's all he can do. Interestingly, it was my father who coined the name "Tracker Knife" because of Brown's book.

  • @markthompson8246

    @markthompson8246

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@utahknifeworks5443 There has to be a way that TOPS gives your father credit for designing the knife. Even if there's no money involved, just a small print that says "designed by" or "co-designed". It's never too late. This reminds be of the Batman "creator" Bob Kane taking all the credit for over 60 years, but that changed and now Bill Finger gets credit. With all that evidence, there has to be a lawyer out there that would take the case. Getting the original knife that was sent to Tom Brown could be helpful too, assuming that knife can be found.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markthompson8246 I spoke directly with Mike Fuller, the founder of TOPS. He has since retired from working actively in the company. He was a very nice man, and listened to my story. From his standpoint, somebody brought him a knife and he produced it. TOPS doesn't want to get into the politics of who did or didn't design the knife. As far as they knew, the knife was Brown's design. As far as the original knife sent to Brown, it has likely (and conveniently for Brown) disappeared, or was given to another knifemaker as a pattern for making more knives. It's been too long to ever hope to find that knife, and prove that it was the first. People can take my word for it that I have the original pattern from 1981, or... they can believe Tom Brown and buy his overpriced hatchet.

  • @aztecwarrior5642
    @aztecwarrior56423 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it be odd to hear TB was gutted by the design he stole!

  • @rebelyell2741
    @rebelyell27412 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think it should be called a knife. I think it’s a completely new tool. Compared to a knife. Let’s call it a Knatchet! Or the HK. Hatchet Knife

  • @mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850

    @mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850

    10 ай бұрын

    Silly man😂

  • @ReasonAboveEverything
    @ReasonAboveEverything3 жыл бұрын

    Robb Russon Tracker knife. Now I know. Knife community is a tight community. Word will get out that Tom stole the design.

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have no doubt that Brown knows by now that this story is out. I haven't heard a single communication from him, which to me is proof that he can't refute his own letters to my father, which are on my website. Luckily my father kept those letters for all these years.

  • @spocker22
    @spocker22 Жыл бұрын

    Cant ptent a shape dude. Theres only so many

  • @piotrgrafik
    @piotrgrafik3 жыл бұрын

    If I can't slice a decent slice of bread and furthermore if I can't scoop and smear peanut butter on a slice of bread with this knife - it is useless for me.

  • @tonyvillarreal3610
    @tonyvillarreal36103 ай бұрын

    So why if tour dad designed the tracker knife,then why was the picture that your dad says tom brown sent him along with measurements and specs for what the features of the lnife was to be used for. Doesn't make any sense that someone else would know what your dad was designing, And your so called collaboration with a gut hook that damn thing will get broken using the knife for batoning

  • @richardnurse2772
    @richardnurse2772 Жыл бұрын

    Why are you selfishly claiming rights of the tracker knife for your father? You know, if Tom Brown hadn't marketed and produced the Tracker knife then it would never become the enjoyment for everyone that it is today. Your father had zero intentions for the knife. Your father was just a tree the bore no fruit. Your story is invalid. The knife is Tom Brown's Tracker knife made for everyone, originally designed by Robb Russon. Tom Brown never claimed to be the designer, but he is the producer of his knife based on Robb Russon's design. His original advertisement did give reference to Robb Russon. What do you want again? Business first, speculation and hobbyism second; your father is not a producer of knives. He was given his dues already.

  • @heatherkellar4783

    @heatherkellar4783

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree once Robb GAVE the knife to Tom it became Tom's property and he went and offered your dad to come to meet in person and he declined so knowing Tom he gave the opportunity to make ot to Ed Lombi a student and friend of Tom's. In the Indian way your dad GAVE the knife and design to Tom.

  • @TheVeganeater
    @TheVeganeater Жыл бұрын

    It's the classic story of the ambitious taking advantage of and pushing aside the unknown creator. Who invented the Tesla electric car? Elon Musk right 👍. A guy with no training or history of automotive design, mechanics expertise....yet his name= Tesla and the talented people who worked for and are the creators are nobodies.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, unfortunately it has been happening throughout history. Thanks for taking the time to read this. As an update, you might want to check out my more recent post where I interview my father about this. It's an hour long, but if you're interested in the story, this is good stuff. kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqWgzaipqsS3lLw.html&ab_channel=UtahKnifeWorks

  • @user-eb7dr9er1k
    @user-eb7dr9er1k2 жыл бұрын

    Tom Brown is a joke.

  • @WRLDWYSE
    @WRLDWYSE2 жыл бұрын

    I would buy your fathers design yours not so much. Go back to your dads lose the gutkook and canoe handle !!

  • @bluesharp5004

    @bluesharp5004

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've had mixed reactions on the gut hook. Everyone seems to like the pommel hammer. But as far as the canoe handle goes, if you try reversing the grip to use the saw teeth, you'll get that finger groove right in your palm, and it's NOT comfortable.

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually plan to release the original design of my father next. The "Tracker Classic", if you want to call it that. Stay tuned! Thanks.

  • @valqueenofValhalla
    @valqueenofValhalla2 жыл бұрын

    Um you knife looks similar but no cigar sorry maybe you can jump on someone else’s band wagon for fame and money . If you pa was smart he wound have marketed it like brown did you gunna also tell us your daddies knife was in The movie hunter too..

  • @utahknifeworks5443

    @utahknifeworks5443

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah... no fame or money here. The one who got the fame and money was Tom Brown the opportunist. He was not a knife inventor. He's a tracking school instructor. He just saw a good opportunity and took off with it.

  • @cristianalejandrobotozis5351
    @cristianalejandrobotozis5351 Жыл бұрын

    No logro entender porqué no pudo reclamar el crédito si es que hay evidencias que guarda a su favor.... @Utha Knife Works, por favor, si pueden aclararlo_ Interesantísima historia, y algo triste por cierto

  • @enemyofmyenemy6713
    @enemyofmyenemy6713 Жыл бұрын

    PAULO SUETT KNIVES Channel w/webpage

  • @vaginal-sand-castle
    @vaginal-sand-castle5 ай бұрын

    Had a Tom Brown tracker , cool to look at . Not really practical . It's supposed to be a one tool option , there's no such thing

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