Your selection off of My Life In the Bush of Ghost is so astoundingly, jaw-droppingly correct, that I'm going to be impressed with you for the rest of my days. This is an extremely well considered list.

@plooopymops

4 ай бұрын

My favourite album, well said!

Having never watched your channel, I expected just another in a myriad top 10 lists with the usual suspects. Thanks for such an intelligent, entertaining musical journey. It was a pleasure listening to someone who knows their subject so well.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Thats a nice comment there...thanks for that

I don’t normally comment on KZread but I have to say this was such a well thought out educational video. Going thru music chronology and choosing albums to talk about was a great idea. Realizing you like keeping videos around 30 minutes perhaps you would consider diving on deeper into each period of the albums you chose and expanding on each period. Great work and a superb video

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Robert...You might want to start with my video on Louis Armstrong. It's favourite video of the 250 odd videos I have made...then check out my playlists and try my history of jazz series. It's a bit heavy going but that is the point of my channel...to go deeper!

@robertpannullo5687

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer gotcha .. new to your channel so I will search those out 👍

@davethiboutot

Жыл бұрын

What a waste,how about popular music,music. I wasn’t around. Boring

So great !! What a review !! Love the choices..!! Amazing insight and description all around .. keep up the good work !! Thanks for expanding the listening list !!

Great video, Andy! Those are all great choices!

Great list, and superb analysis! You deserve a much wider audience. Thanks 🙌

Always love your musicological/historical take on the arc of western music, Andy. Delighted that the critical innovators on my list are highlighted here. I appreciate the subtle distinctions and the DEPTH. Just wonderful . . .

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Jed

Brilliant work Andy, what a genius rabbit out of the hat moment was the "My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts" moment, Ive owned this album for 40 years and it hasn't aged a bit, truly revolutionary it really did lay the groundwork for all those genre's you mentioned beforehand ... Keep up the good work

Your videos are so informative and enjoyable at the same time - thank you so much

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them!

It is so interesting to revisit older music and salute their innovation. You tube has many videos where some unknown guitarist does a perfect cover of a famous solo. Admirable as these performances are… they fail to capture the creativity of the performer who first pulled these sounds out of the ether

I really appreciate the different approach you take on here on the matter of this endless question of the greatest albums even though I of course would have chosen differently. Well done!

Yours is an excellent list. Here's my top 9 favorite albums (yes nine; read on to find out why not ten). My list is admittedly snooty 😂 but they are the albums I played the most. 10. Mule Variations - Tom Waits The premier American songwriter and jazz singer. He transforms his tortured soul into songs about the lost, whiskey and bars. 9. Exodus - Bob Marley The warrior took a break to enjoy the Natural Mystic. Still militant, but in a mellow lover kind of way. Bob died too early. 8. Kind of Blue - Miles Davis Supremacy bordering on arrogance. But never clinical. A subtitle could've been "Catch Me If You Can". 7. Never Mind - Sex Pistols Uncompromising words, chaotic playing, Rotten defiant vocals, a moment in history .. all conspiring to create a soundtrack for a perfect storm. 6. Remain in Light - Talking Heads The album I played the most, so much so it cost me a relationship. I didn't even notice what happened until later 😅 Byrne & company mixed world music with Afro beats and artsy college lyrics to give birth to infectious crazy songs. 5. Exile on Main St. - Rolling Stones The devil wrote it and a college dropout sang it. 4. Hejira - Joni Mitchell Impeccable lyrics. Tarty songs. Styles from folk to jazz to blues. And guitar tunes to match the storytelling. 3. Veedon Fleece - Van Morrison Unmatched vocal virtuosity, almost like Van was showing off his vocal gifts. The human voice as a musical instrument. Enjoy the wide-ranging vocals, the weird stories and uncanny lyrics. 2. Left blank coz nothing comes close to number 1. Gotta respect perfection. 1. Astral Weeks - Van Morrison The ultimate fusion album. It effortlessly mixes jazz, blues, Irish folks and English styling to produce strange songs that tell stranger stories and mysterious lyrics (really poems). What's amazing is that it was recorded "live" in a few days .. and when Van was in his early twenties!

@h.m.7218

Жыл бұрын

Astral Weeks, OK. What about Nick Drake in that particular genre ?

@davidcook4457

Жыл бұрын

Astral weeks just perfect

@FrankyGoesToNowhere

11 ай бұрын

Astral Weeks? It's Ok. But..first? There are a lot of people that don't dven know this one exist.

@geoffreywillars1032

3 ай бұрын

Oddly enough, Mule Variations was the album that told me Tom.Waits had got old and the magic was gone and not coming back. Great closing track, but inspiration was thin on the ground. And it's been a slow death since.

@JJJJJVVVVVLLLLL

3 ай бұрын

@@geoffreywillars1032last great one was frank wild y imho. 6-7 near perfect LPs in a row

Very good approach to a nearly impossible task. Eno - Byrne a surprise addition.

Brilliant work. Entertaining and educational. It would be great to have a Spotify list containing that music.

Great educational video. It’s chronological well thought out. Must have been challenging to keep it to 30 minutes and 10 albums. Thank you. Keep up your great work 👍😎

I love these lists and your perspective in particular. I concur with many of your choices (not all! Lol). If I were to make this list today, it would probably change by next week!

Amazing list, the best I’ve seen. When you were describing what the last one was gonna be, I was predicting Remain In Light, and I was surprised you didn’t go with Blonde on Blonde for the Dylan pick.

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

He's never even heard a Dylan album all the way through, yet he puts one in his all time top ten. He's full of shit.

A few days ago, Robert Plant and Alison Krauss played in my little hometown, Huber, Heights, Ohio. They only played three Led Zeppelin covers, rootsy country rock style, but all three came from Led Zeppelin four, "rock 'n' roll," the "battle of evermore," and "when the Levee breaks."

Having watched a few similar lists I warmed to this when you acknowledge how ridiculous such a task is. I also agreed that whist there is a lot of music I play much more frequently this list is both honest and insightful. Well done and thank you.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Yes...a silly task to undertake...I might do this annually with a different list everytime thereby gaining the views that such videos get and at the same time pointing out the futility of such a task. The real title should 'My first stab at coming up the ten greatest albums of all time'

@deanjonasson6776

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I like that title better... a chance for another pass down the line!

Love your final pick on this video. And, apart from the album's place is music history, its significance and how it represents the zeitgeist-ness at the time, it is simply a belter of a listen. Made me happy when it appeared at your number 1 spot here.

Very good! Thank you!

Well just goes to show that a daft premise can lead to an insightful, and entertaining, analysis. Nice one!

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated!

Your videos are just incredibly well done, and I thank you for your insight. I once heard Keith Richards say he had lost the ability to listen to music for pure enjoyment, as he always found himself trying to pick apart what the musicians were playing. That seems tragic to me. What a blessing for you that you have not experienced a similar fate, and you are willing to share your knowledge and passion for music. Keep up the good work and thanks again!!

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Keith Richards comes across a bit pretentious in interview. He is not a great guitar player. But he was lucky and did not put a foot wrong I suppose. But now he makes comments which really blow sunshine up his own arse.

Your the Professor of Music, I really enjoy your take on things, great video!

You should make a music history documentary for TV. You know your stuff and are good to listen to.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

I would love to do that

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

He doesn't know shit.

Your discussion reminded me of the film Moonage Daydream. There's this great sequence where Bowie talks about exhausting his on stage personas (Ziggy, Thin White Duke), hitting a creative dryspell and retiring to Berlin (where nobody knows him) with Brian Eno to "reinvent" songwriting by going into the studio cold each day with no preconceptions about song structure, melody, instrumentation, arrangements or recording. Just change things up each day and see what happens. That was the kind of thinking that really moved music forward.

@LarsBjerregaard

2 ай бұрын

This is a role that Brian Eno has played several times. The man's a genius!

Electric Ladyland is above extraordinary.

Great video! I love the Bob Dylan commentary --FWIW I would have had to put Never Mind the Bollocks on there somewhere ...

Great list man!!

The biggest surprise was number 10. I expected to be disappointed. But I was very happy with Bush of Ghosts. I sensed its futuristic importance at the time and am pleased that you brought that up. I’m a new watcher and love your discussions of how the music we listen to is in your opinion the progeny of jazz. That view rings true.

Brilliant list and education! Loved the choices! There were of course loops, synths and found sounds on Dark Side of the Moon, which if picked over Led Zep would free up another slot! or maybe two... ?! But I know I'm now bending the list to suit my will and haven't actually listened to the Byrne/Eno album - but I will now!!! XD

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Absolutely awesome list..very insightful and inspiring 34.06 minutes spent 👏 thanks man

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I like this approach of looking at major currents or cultural streams in popular music and identifying the foundational albums that best sum up or instigate that entire sub-genre, whether classic era rock & roll, singer-songwriter, progressive, sampled/hip-hop, etc.

@donaldklein8694

Жыл бұрын

However, I think you would have a hard time convincing anyone that sees motown, rhythm & blues, soul, funk/disco as a continuous lineage that eventually becomes the broader phenomenon of hip hop as having as their foundational album My life in the Bush of Ghosts!

@donaldklein8694

Жыл бұрын

I think you replace My life in the Bush of Ghosts with Public Enemy's Nation of Millions (1988). That album merges so many archetypal things: the rap revolution of lyrical delivery, the found or sampled aesthetic of DJ'ing, the funky rhythms of the James Brown era, the radical social protest lyrics of countless albums, but then also this edgy in-your-face heavy-metal vibe that crosses over from the rock guitar god era.

@donaldklein8694

Жыл бұрын

One more thing: for that particular sub-genre you are holding Joni Mitchell up for, I think Tapestry is a more significant album than Blue. Not only is it a great album, I think it's still the biggest selling singer songwriter albums by a female ever.

It is an Impossible mission from the point of last three. It was done with a surgical precision (it shows your organizational and summarizing skills including a good eye for details)...Maybe you can start mini serial of the greatest albums by genre/sub genre like soul, folk/folk rock, heavy metal, fusion, electronic, reggae, hard rock, funk, punk, new wave, blues, country, jazz, etc...

wow, great list! I agree with most everything you said here, and in fact have some homework to do as I had not heard of the Eno album - I foolishly thought you would have picked OK Computer for the last spot! LZ4 is a great choice too, it really does have a little bit of every style, plus sounding like "itself". I would add a *spot for the "one to rule them all" - Yes Close to the Edge, but that's just me. Cheers!

What a great list. The only one I have not heard is the Brian Eno/David Byrne record. But I have the utmost respect for both those artists. I enjoyed this just going this the years of recorded history.

As far as important, impactful albums go, I would add Glenn Gould’s 1956 recording of Bach’s Goldberg Variations, not just because it’s an incredible, innovative performance, but it had unprecedented sales numbers and popularity for a classical record at that time. Otherwise, really enjoyed your list explanations.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

I consciously decided to keep classical music out of it...hence my chat about the relationship of popular music and recording at the start.

@ambientideas1

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Fair enough. I will add that I think that Gould album did more to popularize classical at that time than any other in the genre; Gould was treated as a pop star in subsequent tours and media spots. But that’s perhaps a discussion for another list. Cheers.

@haihechina

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Then why didn't say this at the beginning? Also one of the fundamental was from the opera or the opry. Classical and Blues the way you descibe is really brilliant, but I hope you recognized you know the first recording of classical is from the Auditorium Theater of 1893 of Verdi's Aida from Chicago. Did you ever hear the shellac recordings of Rosa Ponsell from 1921, or Enrico Carusso of 1919? You really pissed me off at first, but you really put on a great and knowlegdeble anaylisis afterward of history of rock and roll.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

@@haihechina I thought my description of the innovations of recording and how that related to popular music explained where I was coming from. I nearly put on Carusos million selling recordings from the early part of the 20thC but I only had ten choices and I knew there was no country music on there, and no sould either...as I said, it's a silly task to undertake

@jdmresearch

Жыл бұрын

As far as classical music having an influence on pop/rock, Switched on Bach by Carlos and Electronic Studies by Stockhausen have to be there, somewhere.

+1 for Revolver, it's the killer Beatles album

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

Magical Mystery Tour is the best Beatles album.

I think all your choices have impeccable historical credentials and strong enduring aesthetic merit, so this is a very solid list. I liked how you discussed in depth your reasons for inclusion, and had the generosity to find room for artists and music that aren't particular favorites of yours, but whose importance you still recognize. Some semantic purists might quibble with citing posthumously collected recordings among works originally conceived and produced as LPs, along with perhaps a greatest hits compilation over a self-contained and cohesive original album, but no one could deny the centrality of these artists and recordings to the music you champion on your channel. Incidentally, an internal poll conducted by 'Time' magazine in 1999 selected 'Exodus' by Bob Marley & the Wailers as the greatest album of the twentieth century (the runners-up were 'Kind of Blue' by Miles Davis and 'Are You Experienced' by the Jimi Hendrix Experience).

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

How can anyone think Exodus is the greatest album of all time??? bonkers...anyway...originally an 'Album' was a collection of an artists songs pulled together so I felt quite happy doing so...thanks for the great comment, glad you liked it

Very nice thank you.

What a great list. Maybe the best Top Ten greatest album list I've seen. I say this because your list is my list with one exception only. "Remain in Light" instead of "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts."

Thank you for ALL your lists. Music so necessary. I finally wrote down my fav (studio) ten list. From when I was formulating my tastes, in my prime years, and exploring, scouring record stores, and lots of FM listening. Also, taking up guitar in 71. Hearing sounds never heard before. Most are meat and potatoes rock and roll. 1. Electric Ladyland 2. Layla 3. Zep IV Zoso 4. Then Play On 5. Sticky Fingers 6. Who's Next 7. Argus 8. Love Devotion Surrender 9. Meddle 10. A Nod Is As Good As A Wink To A Blind Horse Lots of also rans, but it costs money to branch out and buy a release you've never heard before.

@richardrose2606

Жыл бұрын

I think Then Play On and Sticky Fingers are both fabulous. Layla, a double album, is a bit repetitive but Bell Bottom Blues is one of my favorite songs.

"And we see how these two guys saw how music would be made in the future. How it would be made from loops, how it would be made from found sounds." ...."Revolver" anyone?

Excellent list! I would replace "Blue" with "Hejira" due to Jaco's mind blowing bass playing. I would add a few other jazz influenced albums: Jeff Beck's "Blow by Blow", Radiohead's "In Rainbows", Pat Metheny Group's "Imaginary Day," and a couple of electronic albums that don't get enough attention: Janus Rasmussen's "Vin," and Rival Consoles "Now is." Thanks for posting your videos. I learn something on each one!

Finally a properly musical list! Attitude o' gratitude, sir. Honorable mention maybe to those early Ravi Shankar albums? And Chuck Berry? Seriously excellent, though. Looking forward to your future musings on Stravinsky, Gong Kebyar, Nancarrow and Ligeti as the quartessential fab 4 of the last century. 🙃Aren't they?!! 🤔

It's difficult for me to differentiate most popular with the most influential with then my most favourite albums. You did a great job. I agreed with your list and the reasons you specified but would put Dylan's "Bringing It All Back Home" as one of the greatest albums because of his clever lyricism on Subterranean Homesick Blues, Tambourine Man, It's Alright Ma' & Baby Blue. I'm not a Dylan fan but this is a brilliant album for 1965. This album (for me) inspired more diverse artists from Soul, Country, Folk, Rock and Pop to cover songs from this album than any other. You can hear Lennon, Lou Reed, Hendrix, The Yardbyrds switch their style of writing and phrases after this came out a tad more than Highway 61. (My opinion of course) Maybe you could do a most influential albums even if they're not that good or famous? e.g. The Blues Breakers "Beano" album. Cheers Andy.

magnificent list so brilliantly explained

Very good !

Wunderbar Andy ! Excellent talk as always. The list is undeniably almost perfect. I was with you in every step through Revolver. With the possible replacement of Elvis with Chuck Berry….this I think could go either way. I love your picks of Led Zeppelin IV and My Life in the Bush of Ghosts. It is easy to forget the importance of Led Zeppelin IV, but it really was a game changer. I loved My Life in the Bush of Ghosts, and was surprised to find so many people were influenced by it and more surprised that many people I’ve met know some of the tracks. I played it last year at a party and a „techno“ friend recognized it, and was exuberant , giddy in his remembrance. I know it is your subjective list and in that frame it is perfect. But, Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell ? Great song writers and poets for sure. I love them both for their contributions to music and their unique take it. I think at the time of Highway 61 people in America were moving away from buying 45‘s . Full length albums became the norm and Musicians had more freedom in that they had more space to fill. I find Buffalo Springfield more important than Dylan. I find Zappa‘s Freak Out! Much more ground breaking than almost anything back then. Much more than Joni Mitchell (I do love her ) From Freak Out! through The Grand Wazoo opened so many doors, Frank was the foster parent to George Duke…Adrian Belew (without we have no Discipline) Terry Bosio, Vinnie, Chester Thompson, and Steve Vai and Wakerman . I think Frank opened a door. The most obvious omission is Jimi Hendrix. Everyone else on this list opened a door, or left a window unlocked. Jimi Hendrix kicked in the front of the house !!! I’m sure it is a different experience for a Brit. Jimi played for a couple years on the London scene. We know Clapton and Beck said Jimi was out of tune, Pete Townsend thinks Pete is the be all end all. Love Jeff Beck but the rest …. In America Hendrix was a Revolution. Music could be divided by before and after Hendrix. In America , we had Chet Atkins and Glen Campbell . Then Hendrix you could say opened a door, I think it was more like Jimi kicked the door off it’s hinges. He was a cultural revolution. No. 11 ….. Elegant Gypsy This opened a back door to fusion and and traditional jazz for so many people.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

I think if I had 11 places then it would be Are You Experienced in there.

@johannhauffman323

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Andy, you do have 11 places. It’s your gig. Thanks so much for your talks. Our old album collections are very similar. Is a treat for me to go down memory lane.

Great list. A few of my personal favourites. Kind Of Blue. Highway 61. Blue and My Life in The Bush Of Ghosts.

Great list, entertaining as usual. Don’t know the David Byrne - Brian Eno album, that was the real curve ball for me. Definitely it would be Blue by Joni Mitchell or Hejira.

@crotalusatrox7931

Жыл бұрын

Hejira...for sure.

Well, Andy‘s view on the 10 Best Albums….is always very interesting. I would have never thought on Brian Eno. something to think about.

@deanjonasson6776

Жыл бұрын

I think Eno's influence on late 20th and modern music has only recently been realized.

You nailed it.

interesting video, we're lucky because there's so much good music out there to explore. my list would include some 90's albums though, because that was tbe decade when I was young.

I must be a Really Hard Core Joni Mitchell fan, because on balance (and it IS a very close-run thing) I think Hejira is her peak, both musically and lyrically. 😊 By the way - your approach to creating the list Andy, is SO much more reasonable than the Rolling Stone and NME approaches. I'm going to have to subscribe!

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for that :)

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

Agreed Blue is overrated.

Really good list and justification. Totally agree about MLITBOG by Byrne/Eno; it blew my mind when I bought it in 1981 - also very influential on the whole "world music" movement of the 80s and beyond (Gabriel etc).

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

Eno's own 1970s albums were much more influential than MLITBOG.

Can't argue against any of your choices, well done.

What makes this list interesting is the chronological order. So you can really say the top recording events in music history, and argue the impact of each each.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Yes I'm really just drawing attention to some musical milestones, But I'm missing a few out too...

@herbertferguson2836

Жыл бұрын

Your list ended with an album from 1981 …. Sooooo, your homework assignment is to compile the top albums of the last 40 years. I am really enjoying this channel. I have great respect for your opinions because you provide solid logic and history to the arguments. I was proud to to see that I have 7 of the albums from your list. ( 2 Joni Mitchell’s )

A brave and fascinating list of albums, Andy. Choosing albums as the point of reference, as opposed to individual pieces of music, does create a somewhat artificial sense of what has been influential. For instance, to my ears Stravinsky's Rite Of Spring (1913) is the sound of the 20th Century; the barbarity, even eroticism, of those rhythms is where modern music begins. That piece of music created a storm. It was the angst-ridden, fuck-you rock 'n' roll of its time, and every leather jacket-wearing, guitar-wielding rocker that came after lives in Igor's shadow. Those tape manipulations that the Beatles, Byrne and Eno did would have not been possible without the pioneering work in the 1940s of musique concrete composers. Not enough fans of popular music understand the extent to which classical music has influenced popular music. Anyway, thanks for another stimulating video.

Great you included Mitchell - I must be a hardcore Joni fan as Hejira is the one for me where the musicality and lyrics become transcendent - also marks the watershed of her 'upward' trajectory as none of the subsequent albums succeed to this degree as albums, even if particular songs could still reach comparable peaks

Nice take on it. Blue, since you’re talking about albums, Hits is just a label created best of collection. I probably would have gone with Darkside of the Moon over Zeppelin IV, but your logic is sound. IV capturers more, but DSTOM I think will remain timeless and is arguably a more perfect album. The lasting influence of either album is unquestionable.

That four-faced Beatle-look on the cover is iconic, equivalent to Elvis's film-star glamour, the new hairstyles, everything. Nothing like it before or since. Timeless.

Holger Czukay was producing work like Eno Byrne back in the late 70's both with Can and solo.

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

So was Eno himself. Eno's 70s albums are far more influential than MLIBOG.

#1 very interesting. Never heard of it. 'Remain in Light' seems to do a lot of what you say about your #1, but preceded it by a year. Similarly innovative and ahead of its time. And look who produced it.

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

Eno's 1970s albums were more important and influential than MLIBOG. Full of shit this guy.

Champion. Rock Around The Clock and In The Mood are quite similar, only the latter moved the guitar forward and named the singer ahead of the band. Orchestra leaders pre-dated the matinee idol concept you allude to in this awesome summary.

I must go against the grain, but that is what is great about personal taste. I do very much love Joni and Dylan, but my favorite songwriters of that era Bacharach and Jimmy Webb. I suppose I enjoy Bacharach and Webb because, even though they were obviously "pop" songwriters,they wrote popular songs with more compositional complexity, or perhaps sophistication. I have only come to appreciate Bacharach in the past 5 years as I have learned many of his pop songs as guitar chord melodies. Before this study, I didn't realize the subtle sophistication/chordal complexity underlying his seemingly simple, yet beautiful melodies. Obviously the same applies for Jimmy Webb. And, no, I still haven't figured out a good chord melody arrangement of "McArthur Park," apparently it takes a piano to give it a rich, full sound throughout all of its key changes.

Very interesting choices. I'm not sure about My life In The Bush Of Ghosts being that influential. I see it more as a marker or a distillation of what was happening in the fringes of popular music, especially hip hop and rap and an application of the underground and avant-garde trends/explorations in a rock(?) format. But it's a great album, especially the two disc vinyl version with unreleased and rhythm tracks from the original sessions. It sounds fantastic and I can't argue too much as MLITBOG is undeniably a signpost. Freaking Eno for the win! Edit: subscribed.

In the final spot I would've put Radiohead OK Computer. Much of your description of the Eno/Byrne album can apply to it as well. It's not my favorite but I thinks it's the best and most important record of the last 35 years.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps...Nevermind is a strong competitor though...

@seansrecords

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer i would argue Kid A is radioheads most important , ok computer is a pretty straight forward rock/prog album ... Kid A brings in the synths and digital influence .... but Eno/Byrne had done it already in 81 i suppose ... People always talk about the musical innovations but i often feel the artistic ideas and concepts are just as important with things like post modernism, and punk independence making a huge impact on the music. Other things like the civil rights movement starting to appear in bebop and then soul music... these things are a huge factor in 20th century pop. I enjoy these videos, it feels like you are organising my disparate thoughts on music, i have always been very interested in the influences of artists and how we got here from there ...

@seansrecords

Жыл бұрын

PS if i made my 10 they would be very similar The only album i feel many people overlook - probably because musically it is not anything ground breaking for the time it was released - is Ellingtons Masterpieces ... However it was recorded as an album in 1950 ... way before Kind of Blue ... most 33s had been collections of 78s - but this was a recording session where Ellington took advantage of the new tape recording machines brought back from WW2 and pushed by Bing Crosby... it gets overlooked as it was so ahead of its time it didnt really circulate as few people had the technology to play the new 12" 33s Its an amazing album though and the sound quality of the LP is incredible

Andy I’m a newcomer to your Channel and loved this video and look forward to going back and learning from your expertise But for this video I have 1 question Trout Mask Replica ? Thoughts

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

It is a groundbreaking album...what ground I'm not so sure. And I'm not even sure it's Beefheart's greatest album...it seems like he is trying out ideas that he did better later on.

@jessem470

Жыл бұрын

Agree I think Lick My Decals Off Baby tops it Safe as Milk is as good , if not better thank any Stones or Kinks album or Them or ….. you get the picture Safe as Milk another unsung classic

For the last album slot, was expecting Prince’s Sign O’The Times. Never heard this Eno/Byrne project. Will hafta check out. Thanks 🙏

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is not even close to Eno's best work. He only picked it as it's probably the only Eno album he's heard.

@youmothershouldknow4905

2 ай бұрын

@@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb A bit harsh, wouldn’t you say? Not even Airport Music?

It's been a year, Andy, so you won't see this, but you are this 73 yr old American of Irish descent's favorite musical talker/lecturer. I mean that in both senses.

A brilliant list. Your analysis and criteria are absolutely “clutch”. Thank you. Bravo!

My favorite Joni Mitchell album is Court & Spark. Its just brilliant creatively and technically.

@TheEleatic

Жыл бұрын

JM is unmatched.

@GaryBook

Жыл бұрын

Yes, but Blue is a landmark.

@peterburlin8198

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. Like it much better than Blue or any other JM album. The LP just sounds sooo good from start to finish, not a dull moment

Brilliant ❤

I enjoy hearing your take on things, but before watching this video I thought I'd rank what I think are the 10 most consequential albums of all time, starting with number 1: 1. Elvis Presley, by Elvis Presley 2. Kind of Blue, by Miles Davis 3. Highway 61, by Bob Dylan 4. A Love Supreme, by John Coltrane 5. Revolver, by the Beatles 6. Are You Experienced, by Jimi Hendrix 7. Music from Big Pink, by The Band 8. Bitches Brew, by Miles Davis 9. Catch a Fire, by the Wailers 10. Never Mind the Bollocks, by the Sex Pistols All right, time to watch your video and probably get my mind changed.

Fantastic clip. I was surprised a couple of times but only slightly. Because it all pulls together. The only big surprise is #10. After the build up I thought it would be Prince maybe; latter years; or King Crimson. But in light of music of the future; in the future, and the sentence "and it was done here the first time", I hear you. And boy, did I used to love that track "Help me Somebody" on the Eno/Byrne album. I need to listen to more Louis Armstrong; it's the only disc I don't know that well on the list.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Louis is the greatest...and once you get it he is the most vital artist of all time...it's all his music really...

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Bollocks. The likes of Charlie Parker and Miles Davis looked down on Armstrong as a charlatan, non-credible musician. They saw him as an imposter who had mainstream success but not artistic instrumental success.

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

That's because that 'disc' or album he mentions doesn't exist.

I was with you from Louis to Zeppelin but “Bush of Ghosts” surprised me at first, then I heard your reasoning about it and although there maybe other albums as worthy I think Bush of Ghosts is a great choice for reasons I didn’t think of. Great video thanks

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

I always try and put at least one eyebrow raising choice in there

@Hartlor_Tayley

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Zep IV was a good call. Joni absolutely. I was thinking Bran Van 3000 “Glee” even though it doesn’t really qualify.

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

I know music and it is not a good choice. it is the choice of someone who doesn't know the electronica genre. Eno's previous albums would have been much more credible.

@Hartlor_Tayley

2 ай бұрын

@@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb another green world. I wore that one out.

You’re such a terrific music-head. Thank you for sharing this.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

Joni's Blue! You made me so happy there.

As ever, thought-provoking and entertaining. Thanks, Andy. I would pick up just one point where I beg to differ. I am not convinced by Led Zeppelin 4 as, at more or less the same time, electronic music took a step into the limelight with Tangerine Dream's "Phaedra" album. I well remember John Peel saying that playing some of the music from this album garnered the biggest audience response his radio show had ever had. In terms of what happened to music subsequently, I think it would be difficult to argue that the three guys that constituted TD did not open doors and change not only how music could be made, but also what it would sound like for the next thirty or forty years. How many "ambient music" producers are there on KZread? They all owe a debt to TD. I think that they deserve a place in your history of innovative twentieth century popular music. By the way, I look forward to seeing the next video, whatever the subject, and (referring to an earlier conversation) whether you are going to start up a music podcast. Lots of us out here waiting to hear it.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

At some point this KZread will hopefully grow big enough that I can really spend more time on it. And at that point I would love to do a weekly podcast available on my Patreon where I can actually play different music. That would be amazing. I hope it happens

Well wrought compilation. The Eno choice is especially inspired. Though I’d argue that despite the Berry lick that Parker is much more a phenom like Hendrix is a phenom, while Thelonius Monk would be a school like Robert Johnson is a school.

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

Even Eno would not agree that MLIBOG was that great or influential. His previous albums yes.

Your list is very credible. I think your last Eno/Byrne choice is a little obscure. I might consider Bowie's Low for innovation, and I think as a summation of the "classic rock" sound,the Stones Exile on Main Street could be considered,as there is clearly an Exile "sound". But great list overall!

@nigelbailey4704

Жыл бұрын

For me 'exile' is the peak of rock music and can never be bettered.

Well - this is easy for me - 10) The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other - Van der Graaf Generator - 1970 09) H To He (Who Am The Only One) - Van der Graaf Generator - 1970 08) The Quiet Zone, The Pleasure Dome - Van der Graaf - 1977 07) Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - Peter Hammill - 1972 06) In Camera - Peter Hammill - 1974 05) The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage - Peter Hammill - 1974 04) World Record - Van der Graaf Generator - 1976 03) Still Life - Van der Graaf Generator - 1976 02) Godbluff - Van der Graaf Generator - 1975 01) Pawn Hearts - Van der Graaf Generator - 1971 Not only are these the ten greatest prog albums - these are the ten greatest albums. Peter Hammill albums would also round out greatest album positions up to the number 20 position. After that other artists start to sprinkle in.

@bertkarlsson1421

Жыл бұрын

Love your list!!!👍 I think any objective list needs to have at least one VDGG album!!!

@paulcollins5586

Жыл бұрын

what about other genres.

@bertkarlsson1421

Жыл бұрын

@@paulcollins5586 Not important. 😉

@douglasanderson8636

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough.

@devereauxclandestine1272

Жыл бұрын

I'm not a huge fan of VdGG myself but I have no choice but to salute your commitment!

Very nice job. Obviously you took a decent about of time and thought into these choices, and came up with a really good list. This is a *MUCH* better list than the two lists you looked at in the earlier video. For Joni Mitchell I think _"Blue"_ is a better choice, if only because of how many times I've heard some major artist mentioned it specifically as a huge influence on their music. This a list looking at "major turning points" in music, and I don't think it's fair to list a greatest-hits album as a "turning point", because all it does is document songs which were part of *already-existing* turning points.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Yes...good point. I would go for Blue too and it was acheat to put Hits in. I wanted to make the point about the level of her genius however. It's still a pretty poor list that I could pick holes in (no country music??? etc) but all I was trying to do really was show up those two lists and so I'm happy you think I did that.

@garanceadrosehn9691

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer - As soon as you said "Louis Armstrong", you had already beaten everything on the other two lists.

@deanjonasson6776

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer So then, what Country album would you consider list-worthy?

@chanter6293

7 ай бұрын

For Country I'd suggest Hank Williams. He died before he hit his peak you could argue and really released songs rather than albums since that was the thing of the time 1949 to 1952. So by default either of his two mini albums but this is one where a greatest hits might be more appropriate. Why Hank you might say....well...no Hank = No Bob Dylan and IMHO no Elvis and no Jerry Lee Lewis. As always opinions are informed by personal taste, cultural influences and prejudices so all, mine included, come with a "health warning".

Very insightful selection of "My Life in the Bush of Ghosts". Note that a young Bill Laswell was a participant in the recordings on this record and he would go on to use many of these very techniques in becoming an important force in modern music for the next 40 years. Another good list. I just can''t stay away from these click-bait top ten list videos that you keep dangling in front of us!

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Yes...I will keep going until I get to 'The 10 greatest click baity titles I have used to pull in unsuspecting viewers into my evil plan to bring back seventies jazz fusion as a musical force'. Sometimes I wish i could just post a video up about just the music without having to couch it in these shallow terms.

@ericarmstrong6540

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Now that's an evil plan I can get behind and give a full-throated endorsement!

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

@@ericarmstrong6540 If you are with me I will continue in my quest....

Wow that last one I'd never heard of before. Had a listen, it's great! I'm really into Boards of Canada, but I didn't realize to what extent they're ripping off this album! Anyways so far Mea Culpa is sounding a lot like Telephasic Phase. Thanks for this!

@blackporscheroadster-yw8hb

2 ай бұрын

Eno's 1970s albums are better than MLIBOG.

How can any "Top xx" list of anything be completely non-subjective? As a recent subscriber I did mainly expect a well-informed history of music. For that, Bravo! ... again!

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

It is what it is...low budget entertainment for people who seriously love music...My channel is building at the moment totally down to top ten videos. I would love to put out stuff that goes direct to the philosphy of music...like 'Why Musicians Fail' but the viewers dont come...kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYqAlpWsk82qpMY.html

I was huge into Eno and Talking Heads and acquired the Bush of Ghosts LP the day it was released. If you can put yourself in that moment in February 1981, it was in the midst of everything else, unlike anything else!

Have you done any talks on musicianship itself? I know you teach for a living, so I'm not just asking you to do free tutorials, just I would be interested in what you had to say about what you think is the essence of good musicianship, what you think are the foundations, why certain musicians seem to be able to elevate the simplest ideas. Maybe these things are hard to define, but I enjoy hearing your opinions on things, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this if possible.

An impossible task Andy but I think you've nailed it as well as anyone could. My one observation would be as to whether Led Zeppelin really represent the key development of popular music from the blues and folk-based rock format to something which then forms the link to prog, jazz rock and jazz fusion. To my ears, Led Zep IV, as with the three albums that proceeded it, are still fundamentally blues/folk rock music, albeit being outstanding exemplars of that style, and I suspect that the prog/fusion foundation albums had already preceded it. Whether that foundation album would be Wired, The Yes Album or Court of the Crimson King, I'm not sure, but these all came before Led Zep VI and, to my mind, all were clearer portents of what was to follow.

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Stairway to Heaven is a prog track, The odd timesignaturrs of Four Sticks points to that style. It represents what was called progressive rock and was once described in that category.

@richardsutton01

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I don't disagree, but the albums I mentioned, and in particular The Yes Album and King Crimson were consistently prog across the whole album and were both a couple of years earlier than Led Zep IV. Whether the Led Zep is a "better" album or not is, of course, subjective and I'm trying to move beyond that. 🙂

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

@@richardsutton01 Step away from the prog...this list is the greatest albums ever...

@richardsutton01

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer Yes but .... your criteria number one was "influence and innovation etc" and when it comes to the influence and innovation foreshadowing prog/jazz fusion/jazz rock, then the prog leanings of Led Zep VI, which you specifically selected as representing an album "which sums up all the progressive music which comes out of rock and roll" , were already a couple of years behind that particular curve. But, as you say, "this list is silly" albeit enjoyable. 😉

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

@@richardsutton01 By progressive music I mean the extension of rock music after the sixties; Heavy Rock, Heavy Metal, Psychedelic Rock, Folk Rock, Funk, Studio Experimentation, Jazz Fusion, Prog, Blues Rock, Singer Songwriter etc...basically encapsulating the progressive sophistication of Rock in the early seventies. In 1969 Decca brought out a compilation album of progressive rock, in the true meaning of the word. Now of course the anal retentiveness of your average prog fan has completely inverted the meaning of progressive but here is the tracklisting off that album: A1 -Touch Down At Circes Place A2 -John Mayall Where Did I Belong? A3 -Savoy Brown Train To Nowhere A4 -Johnny Almond Voodoo Forest A5 -East Of Eden Communion B1 -Genesis In The Beginning B2 -The Moody Blues Nights In White Satin B3 -William R. Strickland Computer Lover B4 -John Cameron Quartet Go Away, Come Back Another Day B5 -Keef Hartley Band Not Foolish, Not Wise I wanted an album that broadly encapsulated thais aspect of rock music in the seventies, and an album (Joni:Blue) which represented how advanced songwriting had got. I thought through this quite deeply and to represent the progressive elements it was either Led Zep IV or Darkside of the Moon. I decided that not only was IV broader, but also an even better album. and so that is why I chose it.

Excellent video, thanks! Going by influence/impact is the only reasonable approach to such a list. Here's a few more candidates: Frank Sinatra: the first pop star to face crowds of screaming/fainting "teen-agers" (a new invention of the 40s), also probably the first pop singer to see the potential of the than new LP as more than a simple collection of singles, with mottos for most of his early Capitol albums, he made concept albums before KoB. Frankie also took the inovations of Bing Crosby and Billie Holiday of singing "with" the mike to a new level, influencing everyone coming after him. Hank Williams: Frank sang Tin Pan Alley tunes, Hank was the first real popular singer-songwriter as well as the role model for the "live hard - die young (preferably at 27)" ethos so important to pop mythology. Duke Ellington: Jazz as art music before Parker and Bebop, and simply the 20th century's most important composer. Bob Marley: The globalisation of pop was an inevitable consequence of technical and economical development. Of all the candidates symbolising this crucial development - Makeba, Jobim, Kuti - Marley is the one who became so much more than a singer, with his significance as a symbol of freedom and anti-colonialism by far outshining his music.

My list of the 25 greatest albums, purely measured by the influence they've had on me: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon King Crimson - Beat Talking Heads - Remain in Light Kate Bush - Hounds of Love Deep Purple - Made in Japan Tangerine Dream - Ricochet Kraftwerk - Man Machine Peter Gabriel - Passion Vangelis - Soil Festivities Rush - Moving Pictures Joni Mitchell - Hejira Santana - Abraxas Journey - Next Kansas - Two for the Show The Alan Parsons Project - Tales of Mystery and Imagination Genesis - Seconds Out Led Zeppelin - The Song Remains The Same Yes - Close To The Edge Nirvana - Nevermind U2 - Under a Blood Red Sky Queen - News Of The World Van Halen - Van Halen The Who - Who's Next Brian Eno - Music For Airports Frank Zappa - Zoot Allures

Wonderful list and talk. Thanks. Only quibble: I would have included James Brown, but that's just my nonmusician opinion. My Life in the Bush of Ghosts is also a really good book.

It had to be Revolver. Change was in the air and they made all the right choices. Thanks for your fine work. JT

Top 3 greatest albums ever : The Dark side of the moon; Sgt Pepper´s; London Calling. Just an opinion.

I learned a lot about music watching this. Being a prog nerd, I kinda hoped to see a pure prog album though.

im missing some important themes here. Not that i actually question you choices but somewhere they should be mentioned. First of all: Leadbelly, arguably even more influential than Robert Johnson. Then there are some modern albums that also should have been mentioned although they would be difficult to fit in this list: Queen, A Night At The Opera. Peter Gabriel, So. Paul Simon, Graceland. All of them a bit beyond mainstream and certainly important for the development of popular music

@AndyEdwardsDrummer

Жыл бұрын

Please argue why he is more influential? Night at the Opera...good, poppy prog album, Darkside of the Moon is monumental when put next to it...So is not Gabriel's most important album, just biggest selling, same goes for Graceland...Bridge Over Troubled Water would make this list before that one.

@nilton61

Жыл бұрын

@@AndyEdwardsDrummer I came up with this thought some years ago when buying a cd box with leadbelly. When listening to it i started to realise how great of a influence he was with his song popping up everywhere where i least expected it. "Good night Irene" (Johnny Cash, Clapton, Springsteen, Tom Waits) "Were did you slepp last night"(Nirvana, Miley Cyrus), "Black Betty"(Ram Jam(i loved that one in my teens even if didn't knew the origins), Tom Jones) "Rock island line" (Johnny Cash, White stripes) "Cotton Fields" (Beach Boys, CCR, Harry Belafonte and countless others). "Midnight Special" (Van Morrison, CCR, Paul McCartney). "Gallows Pole/Gallis Pole(actuallly traditional but madeknows by hin)"(Led Zeppelin, Odetta, Kingston Trio, Grateful Dead). Then Leadbellys recordings are reaching of a much broader genre range and are also much more widespread. In addition to his leadbelly mentored both Pete Seeger and Woody Guthrie. Robert Johnson being a much more pure blues artist. Not to diminish his work or influence on that genre in any way but as greatness of influence goes, leadbelly is far ahead. Apparently we differ a bit when choosing the perspective of viewing. I personally think that Peter Gabriels 4'th album is more interesting than So but i strongly believe that So had at least a magnitude more listenings than 4 (sales are about the same ratio). I certainly with that sales figures are not a good indication of quality but so many more people have heard and being touched by So. I find myself listening more to So although absolutely love "San jacinto" and "Rhythm of the heat" they do not pop up in my head as often

BAND OF GYPSYS such a great #1. 1st time I heard I said="this is GALACTIC...reminds me of ZAPPA

For those that don't have time to listen, here is his top 5 best of all time: Space Jazz - L Ron Hubbard Love Beach -Emerson Lake and Palmer Mediterranean Tales - Triumvirat Krokus - Krokus Let Me Know you - Stanley Clarke

@motherlesschild102

10 ай бұрын

Ha ha. !!

Shot out to Joni, the best ever the true GOAT, every record... Blue, Clouds, HEJIRA, Court and Spark, The hissing..., Travelogue, Nightride, Dog eat Dog, Don Juan's, Mingus, SHADOWS AND LIGHT..., etc, man... she's as important as Bird, Trane, or Stravinsky, no exageration intended. So cool to keep seing people praising her, because she deserves it and she's just so above everything, so beyond everyone... so deep, so profound yet so easy to get and understand... I would have put Jaco's debut also amongst those beatiful awesome albums, but... hehe it's quite a titanic task, tryin to reduce all music to 10 albums... it takes balls dude, it would've ended in cardiac arrest for me mannn!! Hehe cheers, great fun vid!

@crotalusatrox7931

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget Joni's live album 'Miles of Aisles'.

@shawnatlast

Жыл бұрын

also For the Roses