As I get older ( 63) and slower I’m choosing comfort over weight and speed all day. My son however ( 37 and faster ) favours the opposite.

Yes, weight absolutely matters. It really annoys me when shoetubers say “it’s heavy but you don’t really notice it.” Wrong! You will notice it if you run high mileage. Maybe if you’re only running 3 or 4 miles it’s not a big deal, but try doing a long run workout in a shoe that’s too heavy and you’ll not have a good time. If you’re just running easy having a heavier shoe can even be somewhat desired, but if you want to put in any kind of pace the heavier shoes will hold you back.

train heavy race light, thats the short of it

I'm from the old school (66 years old) when you had two pairs of shoes; one for training one for racing. The weight of the trainer wasn't really an issue. Protection from the pounding mattered much more. You even ran intervals and "tempos" in them (we didn't use the term tempo back then, just a fast run!). When you put on your racers you did receive a psychological boost. My basic thinking was always "train heavy, race light", applied both to flats and spikes. Always avoided using lightweight spikes for anything other than races.

All depending on the purpose of your run. If you are doing a longer Zone 2 run, with the purpose of building that solid aerobic foundation, it doesn't really matter what the weight is of the shoe, I think more important is that it doesn't impact your run form or give you any injuries. If you are doing tempo runs or higher intensity workouts, with the purpose of speed, I think you will benefit from a lighter responsive shoe, as you want to get to the required speed (again your run form and avoiding any injuries has to be the priority). I try to run some of my tempo (threshold) runs in my racing shoes so I know how they feel, how I respond to them and what they give to you speed- and effort wise.

@FordyRuns

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback

It really depends on what you're using them for. The prime x v2 is a freak shoe that is very fast and good at the niche pace for marathon training. The youtube reviews actually put me off the shoe but I had a chance to pick some up for cheap and really glad I did. I don't find the weight negatively impacts my runs in any way. Maybe the shoe just works for me where shoes like alphafly don't.

@ayowser01

Ай бұрын

It really shines while doing tempo runs. I can feel the weight as I get into threshold efforts.

@kevinclark5086

Ай бұрын

@ayowser01 tempo is there sweet spot. I've also ran 20 mile long runs in them and they just propel you along and feel the same on the last mile.

As a heavier dude wearing larger shoe sizes, i never considered shoe weight to be a factor, except like 10+ years ago . Back then the plush type of Daily trainers were 400+ grams in my size and in many cases bottom heavy and really not on the comfort levels of trainers now. If a shoe is comfortable enough now, i don't mind the weight, but at the same time my favourite shoe is the Superblast for sure.

Because of the need to accelerate and decelerate the weight of the shoe during each running stride, the effect of 100 grams on your feet, is much higher than 100 grams on your waist. However, research has found out that if a light shoe lacks comfort, the foot expends more energy absorbing the extra shock, hence why even African runners don’t run record marathons barefoot, even if they are used to running barefoot. Luckily the new super shoes are both light and comfortable.

Good morning. Yes, it is. For my 65kgs, I don't need the heavy running shoe or big max cushion shoe. I prefer the Kinvara 14, Asics noosa tri 15, Brooks hyperion Max, Hoka rincon v3, Nb ffx Evoz, salomon aero volt. Like to Fordy. Have a good day.

@harmony-one741

Ай бұрын

same More v4 and 1080v13 all too cushy and clunky for me at 174 cm and 136 lbs (8% bodyfat) although Prime X2 weight is okay being that it's more firm shoes than mentioned above.

@Manuel-901

Ай бұрын

@@harmony-one741 .Hi. I like the drop 4mm-8mm. Cheers.

Thought provoking video Chris. I'm like you, over 10oz and they just feel like clogs on your feet. I bought Asics Gel Nimbus 25 and just can't run in them as they feel heavy. Weirdly enough, there are some shoes that weight the same but don't feel as heavy on feet though!

not that worried. love my Vomero 17's for daily and got Superblast for long runs. but would be happy with the Vomero's to do that. be easier for me to lose weight than worry about the shoes to be honest. on a daily; price /comfort / durability more important that weight for me. happy for people to have different opinions.

@FordyRuns

Ай бұрын

I like the vomero

Off topic but the Adios pro 3 looks fantastic in that new colourway 😍

Weight is definitely a major factor in making a purchase, but there are many others to consider. I have the Novablast 4, Nimbus 25 & 26. I definitely feel that the Novablast is lighter. But between the two Nimbuses (?), I don't notice the weight difference as much as I do the difference in the rocker profile

My favourite shoes are the New Balance SC Trainer v1 and the More v4. Both are 'heavy' shoes, so I don't care that much about weight, as long as they don't feel heavy to me. The Novablast 3 felt like dragging a boat along, while it isn't a heavy shoe.

What a lot of runners don't take into account are the weight of the person running and what they are carrying for extra weight! A runner weighing 130 lbs vs a runner 180 pounds is a big significance! Also, more comfy socks might add 1-2 ounces.add on Calf Sleeves or a running belt. So, shoe weight is minor when other factors are considered!

Unfortunately the weight goes up as the the breathability and cushioning get both get lost..I can only get breathability and cushioning comfort in top end shoes that are lightweight..same reason why I use mostly racing shoes cos they have the best foams and uppers..

Drop first but if a low drop and heavy weight then I ignore. Weight does make a difference

I think once you get below about 12 oz you start getting diminishing returns and it matters less and less. Unfortunately, I think too many manufacturers chase lower and lower weights cutting fractions of ounces but at the cost of durability, especially the outsoles.

To me weight matters most when you’re either running fast (sprints) or long (4+ miles for me). But what matters most to me is how the shoe “feels.” Some shoes are over 10 or 11oz but they don’t “feel” heavy, and so that’s ok for me. If a shoe feels heavy, even if it says it has reasonable weight, then it’s a deal breaker for me.

Depends on how good your muscles are and on the distance. If you lack muscle resistence, you will prefer lower weight. Also if you do longer distances. This is my case also: I prefer less than 250g in mens size 10.

Weight matters and as a big foot that I am, 11.5uk, I appreciate it when a shoe is less 300grams.

I actually LIKE a heavier shoe for easy / recovery runs. It keeps me from being tempted to push the pace when I should chill out. For runs that are supposed to be quicker, though, and obviously for race day, light shoes are the order of the day.

I find that weight is a good way of managing and controlling pace. Easy run in a 300g + shoe for example. Trail shoes or race shoes it’s the biggest factor but not so on other types. Race shoes below 230g. Speed or tempo shoe below 250g, daily shoe 260 - 300g, all in UK9.

I do check the weight. I am on the same side as you on Prime X2, It did not work for me, was too heavy. But in the same time NB More V4 is same weight in my size and it is working ok for easy paces. I feel I am spoiled by Superblast which is very light compared to any other shoe at that range of stack

I find the geometry of a shoe can contribute to it feeling heavy. Example is the Novablast 3 was quite light in hand but I always felt it ran heavy and never felt smooth always a bit clumpy. Vs the Pegasus 39 which is heavier. I feel that runs smoother and feels lighter on foot. Just less responsive

@FordyRuns

Ай бұрын

Fair point

Studies say you lose 1% of your running economy for every 100g you add to your feet, but I guess it's more about how shoes fit your running style. Anyway, this is my breakout, according to some tests I've done at the running track 5x1K (wearing size 9UK) Puma Deviate Nitro Elite v.1 - 18m:44s - 216g Saucony Endorphin Pro Plus - 19m:08s - 206g Saucony Endorphin Pro 3 - 19m:09s - 227g Nike Alphafly ZoomX Next% v.1 - 19m:09s - 238g Nike Vaporfly ZoomX Next% v.1 - 19m:25s - 203g Saucony Endorphin Pro 2 - 19m:26s - 227g Reebok Floatride Energy X - 19m:28s - 271g Mizuno Wave Rebellion Pro - 19m:51s - 234g

The Strung x2 is a fast shoe, great for fast pace. I love that shoe. Even for a 30 km at pace marsthon.

I’m 5’2” 60kg and like to run in a variety of shoes. One that I was gutted to find just too heavy for me was Puma Deviate Nitro 2. I use other Pumas and had high hopes and I kept trying but it was as if the shoe had a layer of heavy mud added to it. I guess it will be some other factor that just means I am feeling the weight more than would be expected. I replaced them with Adidas Takumi Sen 8 - bliss!

I myself don’t mind a heavier daily trainer and as being a UK size 12 my shoes are on the heavier side. I have noticed most KZreadrs are obsessed with the weight of shoes. As a Nike fan boy (old man) I’m used to the heavier shoe

For me it depends what type of run it is. So if you are fast, (I'm not) or doing speed work or racing, especially with a high turnover (cadence) yes weight matters. Right now I have to use what I can get (out of work, made redundant) but luckily Puma has great shoes which are pretty lightweight and at a great price. Maybe for slower recovery type runs it wouldn't matter so much as cushioning is nice to have for that and yeah that would add some weight.

@FordyRuns

Ай бұрын

Good points

I want the lightest shoe that isn't causing a major compromise in other things I need for the shoe's purpose. I really don't care about "plushness." A simple upper that fits well is plenty comfortable, so grams in centimeter thick heel collars and tongues are useless to me. If I want a cushioned long run shoe and two are about equal in cushioning and performance but one is significantly lighter, I'm going with it. Within reason, it's more important than price too.

Weight is kinda important, but for me too much stack is a drawback. Anything really over 39mm in stack is too much, unless it is a race day shoe, but that then usually correlates to weight as those "max cushion" shoes are also heavier. As a lighter runner the huge stack and weight just feels clunky to me and I can feel my form affected when I get tired in those shoes.

When I played football I wore Adidas Copa Mundials and blacked out the stripes, then a pro started giving me these super lightweight Adizero things thats felt fantastic but lasted about a month. So I went back the heavier better looking Copas. As a runner Ive abandoned style and wear Altras for medicinal purposes due to wide toe box&zero drop, regardless of what they weight. I wear vivo's to work as they look alot lot better though.

The scientific measurements says that every 100g extra weight subtracts 1% from running economy. In my opinion, there are only very few shoes that is heavy but compensate with the tech they offer (Prime X Strung OG for example) As a general rule, I prefer lighter shoes. I am sensitive to weight so shoes like Nimbus 25/26 doesn't work for me. Even Novablast 4 felt very bulky.

At 60 I just get tired after an hour or so if the shoe weighs more than 260gr in my UK 8.5. Hoka Cielo X1 at 255 gr is my heaviest does work very well but I do feel my quads the following day. I will try the Mizuno Neo Vista when I get the chance.

I had and old elite runner , and bery close friend that trained in 12/14 ounces running shoes in the 90s at 4/5/km pace but used to race 10k to half marathons at 3/km pace! In racing flats rangind from 6/8 ounces easily.

The shorter the distance, the more the shoe weight matters....

Considering that I went from 103 kg to 85 kg since I started running in January, I think 100 gr more or less on a shoe don't matter for me one bit. I might think differently if I was a professional runner or very lightweight. Edit: one of my favourite shoes is the Adidas Ultraboost 22.

Weight doesn’t factor in as much as geometry/drop and softness for me. I don’t like a shoe to make me feel like I’m.running in sand. Heavy with a good roll or bounce is ok for me as it makes race day shoes feel so much lighter.

I'd say between 6-9.5oz it doesn't matter that much.. anything over 10oz and your running with a brick on your foot

To me the extras involved offsets the weight. I like the original Prime X, On Eclipse, and Hoka Skyward X in my rotation. I only take them to races if I am just there for the experience, not to try a PB.

The weight has never really bothered me , I would rather have a slightly heavier shoe that lasts a little longer and give good grip than I really light shoe that’s has neither longevity or grip

i’m running edinburgh marathon this sunday in the prime x strung v1 i never look at weights on running shoes it’s not that important to me none of them are ridiculously heavy 👍🏻

Nothing over 9oz (255g) for me!

Don’t like HEAVY shoe, buy middle weight about 9-10 oz, don’t buy shoes heavy shoes,then race in lighter shoes. With longer miles weight becomes noticeable

weight has a positive training effect... ;)

It will be nice when you talk about weight and length say it also at grammars and centimeters so we can understand you also. Sorry for my bad English😊

I think its not about the weight. It is about the feel. If shoes don`t feel right the weight is not so important. I have different shoes from trail shoes to the adidos 8. I follow my feeling only.

Weight is further down the list for me. I am more interested in toebox room & whether the shoe actually FEELS like a lump on my feet.

Weight makes a big difference in my running shoe purchase. My size is UK 7 and for me a daily trainer should not be above 250 grams,the lower the better.My racing shoe weighs around 200 grams.Here also the lower the better I raced in an HM in Puma Deviate Nitro 2 and 21 days later I raced in another HM in Saucony Endorphin Pro 2 the time difference was 3 minute 20 seconds . I started feeling the weight of Puma Deviate Nitro 2 at about 15th km (weighs around 243 grams in UK7).

Running shoe weight does not matter at all unless you are at the very peak of performance trying to eke out seconds per marathon. Even the heaviest of modern running shoe will be a lot lighter than the best shoes from 10-20 years ago. It’s a nonsense. The new shoes that are “heavy” are offset by foam performance and comfort. It’s all psychosomatic. Also carrying your carkeys, phone, headphones, watch or even a baseball cap or sweatband are heavier than this extra ounce you can somehow appreciate on a shoe. 😂

About 280g is my limit. No need to go over. Sorry I don't know ounces

@FordyRuns

Ай бұрын

Fair enough

I haven’t a clue what an Ouch is I don’t think I can even spell it it’s 2024 not 1969 🤷🏻‍♂️

@FordyRuns

Ай бұрын

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If your training in “heavy” shoes, surely you will benefit from lighter shoes in race day. If I speed train for golf, I benefit when I then swing a lighter club. Seems bizarre runners get a boner for moaning about “heavy” shoes when they’re trying to build muscle efficiency and endurance.

It;s mostly a ton of BS.....................I ran my fastest 5km time of the year (19:23) in the Strungs (first time using) last Saturday......

@FordyRuns

Ай бұрын

Well done congrats

@macewindex564

Ай бұрын

The strung v1 was so much better