The alien ware QD-OLED has put the max price on the market for monitors. Anything less than that monitor has to be cheaper so I'm glad 4K monitor pricing is getting its act together

@DanielFrost79

Жыл бұрын

I, personally have always put the Alienware monitors in the OP (Overpriced) category. As with MSI's monitors.

@wirbelfeld4033

Жыл бұрын

@@DanielFrost79 maybe before but not the new QDoled. I would pay double the asking price for that level of tech.

@DanielFrost79

Жыл бұрын

@@wirbelfeld4033 Yeah. I also know that if you want the best it will cost more. I'm aware of that aswell.

@liamness

Жыл бұрын

I think some people would still pick this over the Alienware even at the same price, if they needed to also use it for work.

@VaydaladaVodalada

Жыл бұрын

I bought and returned the QD OLED monitor. It is not worth $1300.

8:03 YES, i always wanted you drawing on these charts. Please do these for other important moments it helps following the narration.

@Lxcx333

Жыл бұрын

Ikr especially for new viewers it's very nice :D

In the sea of "influencer" KZreadrs that are "testing" monitors it is stellar to get a real walktrough by HUB. Never loose your integrity and continue the awesome work. I test monitors on a very amateurish level and I really understand the grunt work that goes into all the testing you guys are doing and it is many, many hours of work. Thank you for the great work! Also, I have subscribed to Monitors Unboxed asap

The lines drawn on the graphs to emphasize parts of them are super useful and a great adition! Really helps to orient you on the dense graphs.

32" and an option to buy it without the stand and I'm sold. So close! Disclaimer: Huge Sony fan here. Still rocking a 19" Trinitron on a slot 1 Pentium 3 retro gaming system.

@cromefire_

Жыл бұрын

Well you can just remove the stand from what it seems like.

@butrosmansour2311

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my point too I need a 31 inch and it's a buy for sure

@fanofentropy2280

Жыл бұрын

@@cromefire_ The only reason I mentioned that, is that I am hoping to get a $50~$75 discount for omitting that weird awkward stand. Not going to happen, but it's nice to have dreams.

@derptyderp5287

Жыл бұрын

I really wish all monitors had optional stands, they waste so much damn space on the desk, I'd much rather not have to pay for it and possibly have a smaller box.

@3jake5mee

Жыл бұрын

Trinitron CRTs are incredible

It would be nice if you could visualize the size of the individual dimming zones.

@runany1

Жыл бұрын

Roughly 2”x2” per zone

@dunningkruger9

Жыл бұрын

Not sure if this helps, but he mentions that it has 8 horizontal local dimming bands or rows, so that means that the local dimming zones are arrayed in a 12 by 8 grid and on a 27" monitor, each of the 96 local dimming zones should be approximately 2 inches by 1.5 inches in size. On an IPS display with a native contrast ratio of approx 1000 to 1, you will see visible blooming in dark areas around small bright objects. I have a VIzio TV with 90 local dimming zones and I can see blooming around bright text on a black background, but since the TV has a native contrast ratio of 5000 to 1, blooming is unnoticeable to my untrained eye in most situations. I think this Sony monitor will work ok with 96 zones even thoughts it has a lower contrast IPS display.

@photonboy999

Жыл бұрын

Just do the MATH. Assume it's a SQUARE to simplify. For one of the higher-end gaming displays it worked out to ROUGHLY just under 1" on a size but the glow extends beyond that slightly. To make LOCAL DIMMING a non-issue you'd probably need at least 100x the dimming zones. WHAT? Simple, just assume 10x smaller (square root) on each side. Let's call that 1/10th of an inch. So about 2.5mm on a side plus the bleed around that. If sitting close that MIGHT be noticeable in certain instances.

@cl4ster17

Жыл бұрын

The numbers are one thing but seeing the zones on the actual screen and how much they bleed into the surrounding ones is completely different.

@Oshaoxin

7 күн бұрын

I own this monitor and with Local Dimming on Ultra the glow is about 10cm in radius around the mouse cursor on a perfect black background. In-game you won't notice it so.

Thank you so much for your continued thorough reviews. After watching this and all your other monitor reviews for the past year or so, I decided to pre-order the Inzone M9. I already have a great 34" IPS 3440x1440 display on my PC to pair w/ my RTX 3070, and I was thinking of getting a second monitor for additional real estate for both content consumption and productivity work, which can double as a monitor for my PS5. Currently the PS5 is hooked up to a 1080p TV (I have no 4K or 4K HDR TVs at home). Also I wanted to dip my toes into HDR, and out of all the currently available displays, the Inzone M9 made the most sense for me. The Neo G7 and G8 have too aggressive a curve for my productivity work, so those are out, and the LG C2 is far too big for the remaining space on my desk next to my 34" Ultrawide. I don't need another ultrawide to be a part-time PS5 monitor, so the Alienware AW3423DW is out.

excellent review of the monitor as always! it's head and shoulders above the competition

HDMI 2.1 at 40 Gbps ports are curious case. Tim mentioned enabling firmware for 4K/144, but it seems more complex. 40 Gbps of bandwidth over HDMI 2.1 can support up to 4K/120Hz 10-bit RGB/444 signal. For 4K/144Hz 10-bit RGB/444 signal, full speed of 48 Gbps is necessary, unless the display chipset has DSC enabled over HDMI 2.1 FRL protocol to compress 4K/144Hz 10-bit RGB image from GPU into 40 Gbps pipeline using the smallest compression ratio 1.25:1. Please investigate this with Sony. If the monitor does not support DSC over 40 Gbps HDMI 2.1 ports, no firmware would ever help receive any image beyond 4K/120 10-bit RGB as there is not enough bandwidth for 4K/144Hz 10-bit RGB image. Only full speed ports with 48 Gbps can do this without DSC. For uncompressed images, jump from 4K/120 to 4K/144 requires additional 8 Gbps.

@Hardwareunboxed

Жыл бұрын

Yes I should have mentioned 10-bit 4K 144Hz over 40 Gbps is with DSC enabled

@cromefire_

Жыл бұрын

I'd imagine it's some kind of chipset limitation or they didn't bother to go to 48Gbps as the PS5 only does 40Gbps or 30Gbps AFAIK

@WindWolf28

Жыл бұрын

@@cromefire_ The PS5 does 32Gbps.

@manuelfunes503

Жыл бұрын

@@WindWolf28 That 32gbps myth has been debunked. PS5 has been proven to have full HDMI 2.1 bandwith.

@thresh-

Жыл бұрын

I really am trying to decipher and understand all the technical stuff mentioned here to be better informed on the product being talked about, but it just made my head hurt :(

Pretty cool. The monitor market moves pretty slow, but hey, at least it's moving.

@Lxcx333

Жыл бұрын

It was moving so slowly for years now. Hopefully that will change with oled and mini-led being priced gor high and top tier monitors now which means that we'll see them in

@aberkae

Жыл бұрын

I'm waiting for dp 2.0 monitors to upgrade from my oled cx 48 inches. Because the monitor vendors move so slow the enthusiast market embraced tvs due to better competition 🤦!

96 is not much yes. But sony still used ~60 to 90 zones on last years X95J top of the line LED TV. And that low zone count competed with Samsungs ~500 zone QN90A. Sony's processing can make low zone count good. Sony just went to a higher zone count this year with the X95K with backlight master drive.

@N0N0111

Жыл бұрын

As you see they are playing the ladder game. They will slowly release models with more and more zones, and always ask the max price. We all know they can do 1000 zones already but they want to take that max profit route as they all do in this industry.

@johnny_rook

Жыл бұрын

Your comment shows how much you don't know about monitors or TVs for that matter. Sony TV use a dedicated physical chip to process wich lacks in this monitor. If such processor was present, this would be a TV not a monitor. About the 96 zones: the panel "reviewer" is beating the "Fake HDR because low number of zones (

@paulcox2447

Жыл бұрын

It didn't compete very well the qn90a was definitely the better TV. Much inkier blacks and better contrast. Sony competes in the LCD market because of the name on The box. They haven't tried very hard on their LCD products in a long time. The z9d was the last thing they released that was cutting edge in the LCD market. Even the x95k is getting beaten badly outside of the largest size. (For some reason people say the 83-in model looks much better)

@paulcox2447

Жыл бұрын

There has to be some kind of a chip in there controlling the local Dimming. Local dimming does take time to process. Neither of these are debatable

@helloguy8934

Жыл бұрын

Its local dimming will be gimped for the sake of latency and vrr.

The amount of details in this review is impressive! Thank you

I think one of the strong suits of this monitor is its type c port. People who want to hook up their MacBook dongle free for work but don’t want to have a second set up for gaming like my self would be very satisfied. Very rare do I see other gaming monitors do this. And the KVM switch with 3 USB port is a very nice feature as well.

Finally, a reasonably sized 4k with good ppi! I'm so sick of the industry trying to sell me jumbo screens like I want to be in the front row of a theater or something.

@wnxdafriz

Жыл бұрын

tbh... it comes down to how the main sheets are made / basically the standard sheet size makes like 8 or 10 65 inch screens and if there is a defect on any of those screens it gets cut down, also the issue comes down to who actually buys it and what is the use so a larger screen is more common or they just want a better 40ish inch monitor for gaming as the options for 40 inch tv's to console are poor compared to the option in the monitor market (focus on latency) know the biggest issue i have with this monitor is down to price if they want 900 for it... just doesn't make sense for me but supply won't go up if there isn't some sort of demand

@ayn89928

Жыл бұрын

Pg27uq has been out for awhile and nothing compares to it

@LummyTum

Жыл бұрын

yeah as a 25 inch user 27 inch almost seems a little big for me, can't imagine using 32 inch...

@doltBmB

Жыл бұрын

It's just TV panels rebadged, it's lazy.

@vigilant_1934

Жыл бұрын

@@LummyTum I went from 21.5" 1080p to a 27" 1440p (Gigabyte M27Q recommended by Hardware Unboxed). Big jump. I had to sit back a bit to get used to it. It was nice and much brighter though.

Glad you got to review this monitor

Thorough review, thanks Mate!

@pEintub

Жыл бұрын

surprise to see karl is a tech fan...much love from india

@KarlRock

Жыл бұрын

@@alimohiuddin6722 Maharashtra bro

@k3bab_warr10r8

Жыл бұрын

Nahi chaiye ji

@rameezahmed3863

Жыл бұрын

Pakistan kab aarahay ho bro!

@rameezahmed3863

Жыл бұрын

@@alimohiuddin6722 Khanay ki daawat to de do lolol

2:50 I like the looks of the display. It's a nice, clean display with good use of contrast between the black and white, instead of the gaudy "gamer" monitors that proliferate the market. Sony has a good design there, I hope they continue in the same line in the future.

@brentcox2961

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree, it looks great. I got an Asus monitor last year and it has ths big ROG logo with RGB on the back. It looks pretty meh

This is exactly the sort of display I've been waiting for; decent HDR performance on a 27" gaming monitor. I hope other companies now try to compete with this over the next 12 months, driving down the price and allowing me to finally buy one.

@SuperSuperka

Жыл бұрын

Local Dimming is Fake HDR, I cannot bare it. Will prefer Eve Spectrum because of glossiness

@RainboomDash

Жыл бұрын

It's just "okay".. bare minimum as Steve said.. I wouldn't call it decent the contrast is just way too low

@raptorhacker599

Жыл бұрын

odyssey G7 still the best and its even curved lol no contest

@RainboomDash

Жыл бұрын

@@raptorhacker599 it's just okay It only has edge lit dimming and HDR brightness isn't terrible but not great either The only reason it's better than this monitor is because it's VA panel so it has way better contrast Otherwise it's worse And there's way better displays out there, like the LG C1

@lucasrinaldi9909

Жыл бұрын

@@raptorhacker599 Curved is just wrong.

I saw the m3 review and immediately looked up the m9 review. Great content new sub. Thanks

nice one! thanks for the new channel. still hunting for the monitor that can beat the LG C2 42"

Loving that Sony got their monitor into HBU's hands in time for us to see a review at the same time they have announced it! That's *AWESOME*. Nice work Sony and HBU!

@ssj4jamie592

Жыл бұрын

HBU?

@theedstv

Жыл бұрын

@@ssj4jamie592 Hardware UnBoxed

@ssj4jamie592

Жыл бұрын

@@theedstv would that not make it HUB?...

@PainterVierax

Жыл бұрын

@@ssj4jamie592 HWUB is the acronym they use.

@theedstv

Жыл бұрын

​@@ssj4jamie592 hardware box-un

I didn’t understand 98% of what the fuck you said to me but thank you for telling me to save my money.

Nice review glad Sony reached out to you to review their product that is a good sign.

Purchased this monitor when it was released and am using it with my PS5 and M1 MacBook Pro. So far I’m loving it except for some parts of the HDR. I say some parts because when watching movies and gaming in HDR, I notice the local dimming (when set to high) causing the image to exhibit haloing that looks different from what I’ve seen in other Sony LED backlight displays. This only happens in a pitch black room with no bias lighting but it’s actually kinda distracting. To the point where I feel like turning local dimming to low is a better option with HDR content. I find it’s most noticeable with contrasty HDR movie scenes but when you know what to look for it’s noticeable with pretty much all HDR content. You get haloing in the form of squiggly white lines that move around frame depending where highlighted objects/subjects are in the frame. Not sure if it’s just my panel but given that the monitor has none of the screen defects people have been posting online about, I want to say I have a solid panel. Just wondering if anyone can add to this discussion. I love this monitor and if this is a normal backlight consequence on a 27 inch screen, I’m willing to put up with it. But if it’s a defect, then I feel like I should swap it out while the return window is still good. Thanks all 🤘🏼

I bought an Odyssey Neo G9 when it was on sale last year, and after seeing the HDR capability of it I could never go back to an SDR monitor. I'm glad to see a similar experience is finally available for people not willing to part with an obnoxious amount of money for the privilege. Let's hope the rest of the market follows suit and game developers start making HDR more of a priority as well.

@koloyede

Жыл бұрын

I'm stuck at the moment. I want the G9 just for basic work (emails word etc) and gaming . However gpu limitations is putting me off. Do you use this for gaming and how do you find it ?

@GuyFromJupiter

Жыл бұрын

@@koloyede I mostly use it for gaming, but it makes a great productivity monitor as well whenever I work from home a bit. The most annoying part is just that it's huge and takes up a ton of desk space with its stand. I actually ended up getting a desk mount for it to save my desk space, which basically eliminated the issue. I don't really want to tell people to go spend a ton of money on one, but for what it's worth I'm pretty happy with mine. If you're really interested though I'd go for it, or maybe a cheaper 32:9 if you don't really care much about HDR or crazy high refresh rates.

@Im_too_old_for_this_shit

Жыл бұрын

@@GuyFromJupiter I've heard that HDR in Windows (for browsing and stuff) doesn't work well. Is that true? Also, if you set your monitor to sRGB SDR do you still have an advantage of full array local dimming or does it then become just a regular "backlight always on" monitor?

@Kingtoby1981

Жыл бұрын

That's the way I feel about my GIGABYTE m32u

I hope Sony continue providing such great products in the future too!! Just came after watching Linus' A95K video (in HDR on my OLED phone)🤩😍

Fantastic review. Your work is invaluable to us customers !

Subscribed to MONITORS UNBOXED! You make the best reviews!

I thought this feature set for this price will only be available in 2023! I am very impressed.

I feel the monitor stand is really an important factor. Sure you are right in mentioning that the panel can be VESA mounted, but that is not excusing a bad design of the stand provided. Now I don't have any hard data, but I'm still pretty sure that at least 90% of all monitors sold are being used with the monitor stand provided as standard. Buying a monitor arm or other VESA compatible mounting solution is not something most users will do even if the stand provided with the monitor sucks. However I do agree that it's important to mention when a monitor supports VESA mount. To be honest I can't see any reason why a monitor wouldn't support this as it's a very simple standard to support that should add pennies to the cost of the monitor.

Thanks for your review and thoughts!

Great monitor review Tim.

What going to matter if this is a good HDR non-OLED display is if the LD algorithm is worth a damn, something Sony is known for being king in the TV space. So if Sony is brining that same tech to this monitor this will still beat out other monitors if not compete directly against them that have more dimming zones because the amount of dimming zones does not always equal a better FALD display.

@helloguy8934

Жыл бұрын

I don't know. To keep input lag down something has to give.

@dodge2451

Жыл бұрын

You would not want there TV processing in a monitor the input lag would be horrible, and even there TVs turn off the chip when you put them in game mode.

@BBXiong

Жыл бұрын

@@dodge2451 easy solution would have been to enable different profiles to it. TV processing with a 'Movie Mode' that focus on better image quality while 'Game Mode' for a better panel response

32“ and this monitor would be perfect. Good to see Sony bringing their expertise to consumer monitors.

@MarginalSC

Жыл бұрын

Refreshing to see it isn't 32 inches. DQ's them for me.

@Fruchti

Жыл бұрын

@@MarginalSC Refreshing? There are wayyy more 4k 27" with a high refresh rate than 4k 32" :D At realistic prices at that

@MarginalSC

Жыл бұрын

@@Fruchti I like monitors that fit on a desk.

@gamingunboxed5130

Жыл бұрын

@@Fruchti agreed 27" looks tiny. 32" is a must for 4K.

@RobloxRandomMadness

Жыл бұрын

@@Fruchti Nah mate, the only other real HDR monitor at 27 inches is the Acer Predator X27. There is already the PG32UQX and the Neo G8, which has 4k240hz capabilities.

your monitor review videos are the best! keep it up!!!

Can't wait for my Neo G8 to arrive... One more week Really looking forward to your review!!!

Exciting! This looks like the monitor to beat under a gran. I was skeptical but glad to see Sony deliver a pretty good monitor at a good price overall for what you're getting.

Awesome Indepth review as always Tim. Can't believe Sony is back with a new range of monitors, they had the best CRT's!!

@oscarcharliezulu

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Sony Trinitron CRTs we’re glorious.

@lulkLogan

Жыл бұрын

@@oscarcharliezulu ARE glorious. I'm still rocking one. They need occasional recalibration but many are still running strong

Wow didn't expect them to have this so soon!

Can I say, I really appreciate how you make your videos. It allows me to zoom in to full screen on my phone and still look great. Cheer on the review!

G'day Tim, I must say that when you first showed the Monitor what took my attention was the Stand, very different to the Mainstream. Being Dyslexic I quite often find it very hard to know where on the charts I should be looking, so during the video I found it very useful at 8:03 where you added the Arrow & Circles to highlight what you were discussing on the Performance charts. Also 9:45 when you highlight the Comparison Monitors as you are speaking about them in the Bar Graphs

A monitor that's accurate in DCI-P3 mode *should* have accurate sRGB performance while using SDR apps in Windows' HDR mode, which may be why Sony decided not to include a proper sRGB mode. I still think that's a mistake though since Windows' HDR mode can come with its own annoyances (though it's a lot better now than it used to be)

@marsovac

Жыл бұрын

It's always on my place. LG C1. The only problem is the TV itself that dims static pictures after a while. But HDR on is fine.

@konga382

Жыл бұрын

@@marsovac I have an HDR monitor and a non-HDR monitor connected to the same computer. Windows will sometimes go into HDR mode for my non-HDR monitor when I have a youtube video playing on my HDR monitor, regardless of whether it's an HDR video or not. It's very strange, but it's the exact kind of thing I've come to expect from Windows. This only recently started happening, too. They'll fix one thing and break another. When Windows' HDR mode works, it works great. There are too many situations where it breaks, though.

@helloguy8934

Жыл бұрын

@@marsovac Blacks are boosted.

@helloguy8934

Жыл бұрын

Windows boosts sdr blacks with hdr on.

@marsovac

Жыл бұрын

@@konga382 Ah I don't know how it behaves with non HDR... I don't have mixed monitors, just one HDR OLED connected.

Enjoying the great content. Any review upcoming for the Dell G3223Q? On special it is unbeatable value in Australia anyway against your current recommendations for 32" 4K 144Hz vs M32U or MSI. Sadly the inzone is not 32"

I just bought one thanks for review

Pity it's not Displayport 2.0 to get 144 Hz without DSC. Not that there are GPUs with DP 2.0 available but the next generation of GPUs from Nvidia and AMD are expected to have DP 2.0 ports.

@nickd7935

Жыл бұрын

Monitor makers are under much greater price pressure than gpu makers and won't implement new or expensive standards unless and until it is absolutely necessary.

@QuentinStephens

Жыл бұрын

@@nickd7935 Really? How come? Perhaps that's a topic on which Monitors Unboxed might like to discourse?

Now I just wish they do a QDOLED monitor. Already doing magic with their TV.

@Hc4697

Жыл бұрын

Amen

I got this monitor on sale plus open box without any issues for $700 and imo I've been very happy with it for that price

Thanks again for an amazing monitor review. GOAT.

FINALLY FALD CRACKS UNDER $1K but still, 97 zones isnt enough for IPS... pretty much any FALD Array around that size should be 300+ with IPS panels or it will be a bloom fest. The best VA panels could handle it a lot better, and they can be 10bit native too. Still when someone makes a first step, many others follow.

@riba2233

Жыл бұрын

Agreed That is why neo g7 and g8 will destroy it

Sony always rocks insane picture quality and reliability. Can’t wait

Looking forward to your Samsung Neo G8 review!

Will you be looking into the Eve Spectrum with new firmware again once VRR is fully implemented or maybe their new glossy monitors?

I'm really curious to see how LG's new 32GQ950B monitor stacks up against this as well as the Alienware QDOLED. It had an HDR1000 certification and looks promising. Hoping to see a review from you on it!

@sushimshah2896

Жыл бұрын

Is it FALD tho?

@noahw5887

Жыл бұрын

@@sushimshah2896 OLEDs don't have backlights so no does not nave FALD. OLEDs are better because they can control brightness of each pixel, faster response time, deeper blacks and etc. Downsides are it's much more expensive, they are prone to image retention and burn in.

@noahw5887

Жыл бұрын

@@sushimshah2896 sorry didn't see that LG LCD monitor mentioned in your comment.

@sushimshah2896

Жыл бұрын

@@noahw5887 I'm aware of the benefits (and downfalls) of OLED tech, I think the first OLED in our family was my dad's SG SII, after that Lumias, then a few LCDs, but now most of us are back to OLED phones (can't afford to spend on OLED TVs yet) but yeah as you noted, I was asking about that specific LG "HDR" monitor.

Wow, so the leak was true. Inzone is such an odd name, but glad to see them come back.

Hi Sir. Thank you for educating us. Much respect. My question is what is the best small monitor for ps5 that is 4k , 1ms, 120hz at least , 2.1 hdmi and has built-in speakers ? Thank you so much again 💓

Nice review, thanks. Monitor didn't convince me tbh, I noticed that i value high contrast much more than hdr, as I usually game, watch tv at evening or night. In theory OLED would be a great idea, but i work on it 10-12 hours a day - excel, apps :/

Will you be reviewing the Neo G8? I wonder if I should save some buck and get this one and return the G8 I preordered

@riba2233

Жыл бұрын

G8 is a class above in every regards

@GoodXylophone

Жыл бұрын

@@riba2233 That's probably true, but if the difference is not too significant I'm okay with saving some money and desk space. I also feel 240hz is a bit overkill. I mainly just want a good minimum 144hz monitor with good HDR implementation for both my PC and PS5

@Lxcx333

Жыл бұрын

@@GoodXylophone when you don't need 240Hz you can get the neo G7 which is basically a neo G8 but with 165Hz and a bit cheaper :) But i hope we'll see a review on both monitors from HUB :)

@GoodXylophone

Жыл бұрын

@@Lxcx333 Might be a dumb thing to consider, but I don't like the bottom frame of the G7 lol. But yeah I want to see a review of the G8 from HUB. Always love how detailed his monitor reviews are

I wonder if down the road they'll have a qd oled monitor, they are already using them for tvs, I can only hope

@justinpatterson5291

Жыл бұрын

I'd use a tv as a monitor. Especially a QD-OLED. But, I despise smart screens.

@TaimatCR

Жыл бұрын

@@justinpatterson5291 yeah no what I want is a qd oled monitor, like the alienware one or the upcoming msi

Would be very interested in a review of the Eve Spectrum 4k with the glossy finish.

Great video, It's hard to find good information about 4k HDR gaming monitors.

Still waiting for the A95K QD OLED review. Nice work as always.

This might just be the the display to get while waiting a few years on high zone count mini LED/Micro LED/Burn-in resistant 16:9 OLED monitors to become affordable.

@LeoDavidson

Жыл бұрын

What even happened to mini/micro LED? The monitor industry is amazing for hyping new technology as if it's just about to come out, and then going completely silent on it for 5 years while very slowly iterating and releasing screens using old tech that cost a lot of money and are usually obsolete on release (which would be OK if they weren't so expensive!). I've been waiting for a good 4K VRR HDR monitor that's worth the cost for such a long time now. Am using an LG OLED for my gaming PC downstairs, but on my work+gaming PC upstairs I need something smaller and don't want to subject an OLED screen to the static elements that are there for days/weeks on end.

@cromefire_

Жыл бұрын

@@LeoDavidson Well apparently this monitor is what happened. I'd think that high zone count MiniLED has even bigger problems with high refresh rates.

Need to add a few more features like VRR and bump up that HDR a bit, also drastically ramp up the number of zones. A good first re-entry into the market but hopefully the next version of this is much better. My X27 is getting a bit long in the tooth and i haven't quite found the right replacement yet.

@Jordan-bw1bs

Жыл бұрын

Has vrr and I agree the HDR 600 is lacking the pop. I own the m9 and it’s great but yes that one feature of HDR.

i didnt understand 90% of the video! but thats just me and monitors 😥 and when tim at the end says its a good one or maybe not so good i absolutly trust this channel... i am a huge fan of sony bravia tv´s, seeing them now reentering the monitor marked is great! if sony now can make a 32-34" curved ultrawide monitor ( thats what i am looking into ) i would be happy

So I bought this monitor and it is going back. Yes, the screen is very good considering the price and it does have pretty good contrast considering the limited number of zones. That said, the connections are ABYSMAL. The PS5 loses the handshake when doing HDR constantly whenever the frame rate changes. I've tweaked more options that I care to list, but not one of them stopped this issue. You can be in the middle of a game, and the monitor will start searching for a signal - even after the auto switching is turned off. Sometimes in the middle of a game, it will lose the HDR handshake and you end up with a washed out screen. After looking for this specific issue online, it appears that Sony is well aware of the problem and they aren't even sending out replacements; rather they are doing buybacks and returns. From the testing I've done, it appears to be a firmware issue (which Sony has said they do know if and when a fix will be available).

@spacechannelfiver

Жыл бұрын

Its pretty sensitive to input changes, most of the problems i've seen online have been due to input cables not within spec and it being quite slow to accept a new signal format

@Ultimate_Wasabi

Жыл бұрын

@@spacechannelfiver I changed those too - had the same result.

Just bought a LG C1 65" OLED its absolutely AMAZING!

@marty8370

Жыл бұрын

Overrated

@liquidsunshine697

Жыл бұрын

@@marty8370 please elaborate, thank you!

@yjh1004angel

Жыл бұрын

@@liquidsunshine697 Sony A90J destroyed that trash

@kennethdavidson6508

Жыл бұрын

@@liquidsunshine697 It is an opinion. I.E worthless. If you like it, enjoy it.

@Faisal-SR

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethdavidson6508 sony fanboys 😂😂

I own an LG C1 as a PC monitor and also a Hisense U6G as a garage TV. The U6G has 32 zones on the 50 inch and still gives an impressively solid HDR experience. 96 zones on the Sony should still be solid.

ordered this monitor last weekend , and I should be getting it Thursday tomorrow.

@mcb1695

Жыл бұрын

Have you received it yet? How are you liking it?

I find it interesting that Sony is releasing this as 96 zones, when AUO Optronics supposedly has a mini LED panel that has 576 zones for both 1440p and 4k supposedly. Though in its credit, one of the known 4k options (Coolermaster's upcoming GP27-FUS) is priced at 1100$ so it's dangerously outpriced by the QD-OLED panels, so Sony has it beat on price at least.

Pretty damn good for 900 bucks I must say. Yes, it's basic HDR but as Tim says, for endgame HDR you need to put 2K extra or get an ultrawide, both which I don't really fancy. Seriously considering this for my RTX 3080.

@helloguy8934

Жыл бұрын

Buy a 48 inch lg c1 oled. Its 800 bucks. Perfect for you 3080.

@denisruskin348

Жыл бұрын

@@helloguy8934 out of the question. I live in latinam. and the import tax for premium TV’s is 50%. I haven’t seen the 48” around just yet but a 55” C2 can easily go for 180% of US price. Monitor tax is much better here and I must say, 48” is just too much anyway for a monitor.

@Powerman293

Жыл бұрын

@@helloguy8934 Some people argue that LG OLEDs don't even have "endgame" HDR since they can't hit 1000 nits. S95B QD OLED can't even do it really in real content

@helloguy8934

Жыл бұрын

@@denisruskin348 I'm sorry my man. I hope someday you'll be able to experience it.

@helloguy8934

Жыл бұрын

@@Powerman293 Nothing has endgame hdr. Not even a dolby pulsar. Don't know what's the point of that argument.

can't wait for your neo g8 and neo g9 reviews

Now all we need is for Sony to listen to the feedback shared in this video and others when it becomes available, just fix the few issues that are more similar to nitpicks than anything else (besides the sRGB and factory color calibration). I'll probably end up buying this when I can afford it if revision 2 or a "32 inch model isn't out yet, I really hope they do release a "32 inch model with this level of performance or better (for once).

Would have been great to hear some more ps5 specific information as this monitor was produced visually to pair with the console. If money wasn’t a factor, would you take this monitor over the Samsung odyssey g7. I think with the announcement of Sonys monitor we have seen a big price drop to the Samsung comparison.

@JeremyCuddles

Жыл бұрын

It's hard to directly compare this monitor to others. Much like the Alienware QD-OLED the Inzone M9 kinda exists alone in it's class right now. If money isn't factor and it's between this and the G7 for the PS5 obviously get the Inzone M9. It matches stylistically, and it seems like it was designed to get the most outta the PS5. Cause as of right now, the PS5 doesn't support 1440p which is the resolution of the G7. So you're not gonna utilize the monitor beyond 1080p until they add 1440p support. The Inzone M9 I am pretty sure outclasses the G7 in every way. Excluding the refresh rate. G7's 240hz vs the Inzone M9's 144hz. Which wouldn't really matter if you're gaming at 4k.

@lukeklingner6350

Жыл бұрын

@@JeremyCuddles thanks very much, this was super helpful!

@lukeklingner6350

Жыл бұрын

@@JeremyCuddles in your opinion is the M9 the best monitor for ps5 now?

@JeremyCuddles

Жыл бұрын

@4K 60FPS Really? I only seen the G7 from the video adn that was 1440p. If so I'd have to look into that 4K version.

@JeremyCuddles

Жыл бұрын

@@lukeklingner6350 Best monitor for PS5 now, probably. It definitely seems like they made the M9 specifically for the PS5. That happens to also be a really solid overall monitor.

I would like to see the DELL G3223Q

@chiron03

Жыл бұрын

Considering its edge lit. This Sony monitor will crush that.

@Andrew-cp7mc

Жыл бұрын

@@chiron03I know there is no competition on the HDR side of things but I like to know other aspects for the price.

always wondered why Sony left the monitor space, glad they're back.

Are you planning to review the Cooler Master GP27-FUS ?

If only it was 32"... I've been waiting for FALD on gaming monitors to lower their prices ever since experiencing Mini LED on my iPad Pro. I just can't justify spending like $2000+ for "better blacks", so this looks much more attractive. Hopefully this will force other makers to start putting FALD into more monitors in the $700-900 segment.

@Weaver_Games

Жыл бұрын

FLAD sucks. I bought a FALD TV and couldn't stand the terrible screen uniformity and vignetting. I went to the store for a replacement and they all have similar issues. Mini LED is a different story. I just want Micro LED to come and save us all from this trash.

Glad to see Sony back in the PC gaming zone ;)

I'm not sure this is relevant over half a year later, but YES, this monitor's firmware IS upgradeable. Granted I had to jump through several hoops, but if you read that tech support page carefully enough (mostly having to do with setting the KVM feature PROPERLY), even you can do it! XD

Bought one. I’m very happy with it. The only thing that is not awesome is the PD of only 15w. Everything else I’m happy with.

If Sony steps out as the first offering a high refresh rate 16:9 oled monitor, they're going to seriously disturb the market. I think.

@Lxcx333

Жыл бұрын

Well no. Most people don't pay 1k+ bucks on their monitor. But it would be a nice step in the right direction :D Mist people pay like 500 bucks max btw with most paying 300 :)

@mojojojo6292

Жыл бұрын

Oled is just not suitable for PC monitors, that's why nobody is doing it.

@p4p4juju

Жыл бұрын

So are you saying new AW qd oled and upcoming samsung qd oled are not suitable for pc gaming?

@mojojojo6292

Жыл бұрын

@@p4p4juju For a purely gaming monitor sure you might get away with it. It's not good for other applications where menus and ui's are gonna be static on screen for hours. Also the pixel layout is bad for text in even the alienware. I would love one for games and movies but I use other software a lot as well.

@falconeagle3655

Жыл бұрын

Non-curved. Any curved monitor is DOA.

I need this in 32" I am looking at Samsung Neo G8 reviews but it seems to have lots of problems. waiting for your review on this one.

So is this better than your other 2 4k monitors u featured in the 2022 best gaming monitors and is this good for production too like gfx design, editing etc

Top top notch review !

Review Request: Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 4k UHD 240Hz 1ms Curved Gaming Monitor

Sony takes the cake for the most idiotic and featureless monitor stand of the year

@Lishtenbird

Жыл бұрын

Xbox X: "Here's a rectangular tube, with a fan on one side." PS5: "Alienware, but console!"

@Daduu

Жыл бұрын

@@Lishtenbird pony got butthurt?? Dude not everything is a console vs console debate 😂

@Lishtenbird

Жыл бұрын

​@@Daduu ...what? I'm merely pointing out that it's definitely not the first time Sony has put design over practicality. They do seem to like overengineering things just to make an eye candy, even if it means losing out on features. I pondered for a moment whether I had to make the comparison explicit or not, and decided not to; apparently, I chose poorly.

@Hc4697

Жыл бұрын

Imagine being worried about a stand that you can take off LMAOOO

I just ordered the Samsung neo g8 can’t wait til next week

Is there any plans to review the MSI mag274qrx? Their 1440p 240hz monitor? It's an interesting on paper display but a review would be very much appreciated, thanks!

Looks like a nice display, but $900 for a monitor will just never be justifiable when OLED TVs double the size are just 25% more :( I can't cave in sorry Sony

@abhishekab1

Жыл бұрын

Nice under-rated point. By the time this is becomes readily available in international markets, LG C2 42, will be around 1000-1100, and you can use it for multiple scenario's. Even the QD oled will come down by 100-200 USD

@saitama_sensei9199

Жыл бұрын

Because those tv do not have 2.1 hdmi ports and max 60hz, so for some gaming fans this is sooo mich better

@ThisIsExile91

Жыл бұрын

@@saitama_sensei9199 lol the LG OLED TVs all have HDMI 2.1, 120hz, and full VRR support. Did you seriously just comment that?

@saitama_sensei9199

Жыл бұрын

@@ThisIsExile91 yes because look at the price tag of that tv compared to this, is for people like me with no money for those very expensive TV's , and something like this maybe doesn't have the image quality of that tv, but still pretty dam good, plus 144hz plus hdmi2.1 with a very much lower price tag

@ThisIsExile91

Жыл бұрын

@@saitama_sensei9199 you can buy LG OLED C1 48 inch right now for $999 new lol HDMI 2.1 120hz full VRR

If Sony makes a 32 inch version, I’d buy it in a heartbeat.

@I.AMWallzy

Жыл бұрын

27 is better all rounder. Way better for competitive

@chrisohanlon69

Жыл бұрын

27 is huge

@I.AMWallzy

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisohanlon69 definitely not. I went from a msi 1500 curve 32 down to a samsung 1000 curve 27.

Hi mate, i've heard you meationed that you have the RGB profiles avaliable on patreon. Those profiles can be used on PS5 or is just a PC ICC profile, not made for consoles? cheers

Can’t wait for the neo g8 comparison.

Why not on Monitors Unboxed?

@Lxcx333

Жыл бұрын

Probably because it's not worth it and they can advertise their channel for some time and then switch to the monitor unboxed channel in the future

Hope they will release a 32 version soon!

Is it worth buying this over the LG 27GP950 just for the dimming zones?

@Hardware Unboxed Stuck at 1080p60 resolution, YT forgot 1440p and 4K again.

@Hardwareunboxed

Жыл бұрын

We can select 1440p and 4K.

@LiveBenchmarks

Жыл бұрын

The options for 1440p and 4K take a while to complete processing even after 1080p60 is available for videos published on this site.

@N0N0111

Жыл бұрын

@@Hardwareunboxed I see now after 1 hour the 4K is present, YT was a bit slow i guess to go around the world for 4K.

I wish 32" would be the minimum display size for this kind of monitor, or at least having an option to get a 32" version of otherwise the same monitor. I don't see the point upgrading to something like this from my 27"1440p monitor. 1440p is enough for me @ 27".

I would gladly pay premium if it means that I get good picture quality without the cancerous edge lit method that has become the standard. Good on Sony for trying something different.

can 8bit+frc do 10bit 4:4:4 output? If not, it should be easy to take using the AMD driver software (probably the same on Nvidia) which allows you to set the output colour mode. I have a true 10bit hdmi2/DP1.2 monitor, which can only do 10bit 4:2:2 over hdmi, and 10bit 4:4:4 over displayport. I'm assuming bandwidth limits owing to the difference. I may be entirely wrong. :D

Plz make a dedicated video on how the results are produced... And how to decipher the data correctly....