The Super Game Boy | Fixing Nintendo's Dirty Flawed Secret
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The Super Game Boy was an amazing device, but it was deeply flawed! Let's fix it with the Super Game boy Clock Mod!
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Since the question comes up a lot about PAL units, and I've seen it multiple times in the comments here as well, I'll go ahead and answer it and maybe Voultar can pin this. Yes, PAL SGB units also have an incorrect clock speed. However, by default it's not as bad as the NTSC units. Compatibility-wise, this mod absolutely should work with PAL units, no problem. I say "should" only because I have no way of testing PAL units, since I don't have access to a PAL console or a PAL display. However, having sold many units to PAL customers over the years with that exact same caveat attached, I've never had a single person come back and report any issues, so based on that, and knowledge of the PAL unit's design (it's basically identical to the NTSC PCB, with the exception of a PAL lockout chip), I am fairly confident in saying this mod should work for PAL units. However, that being said, I'm currently unable to ship to a lot of PAL countries, because Tindie still doesn't have any way of processing VAT for the EU and UK, despite promising sellers that they are "working on it" since 2019. I'm looking into alternative selling platforms, but I don't have any ETA on that, sorry :(
@nafcom
2 жыл бұрын
for Germany since July 1st, 2021, every CN22 and CN23 form is scanned auotmatically and the receiver is invoiced for VAT automatically. Apart from the 6 € pre-payment of Postal Service fee, there is no other hassle for neither the receiver or the sender, so you can send to Germany even without Tindle implementing the pre-charge IOSS electronic VAT way for customs
@ExplodingWaffle101
2 жыл бұрын
try lectronz
@Raging1337
2 жыл бұрын
is there anywhere in the eu stocking this mod or any other way to get it?, thanks
@qwertymodo
2 жыл бұрын
@@Raging1337 I'm currently trying to transition my production from small hand-made batches to proper mid-scale assembly, and that's going to change a few things. For one, I'll be able to keep things in stock more consistently, but for another, I'm going to be trying to figure out EU and UK distribution, whether that means figuring out how to register for VAT processing, or finding an EU distributor that I can partner with. I'm not sure what that's going to look like, but it's definitely on my roadmap.
@Raging1337
2 жыл бұрын
@qwertymodo thanks for the quick reply, cool that your evolving to the next level in production im glad for you on that,im not sure how these things work but maybe you could reach out to zedlabz? They stock lots of parts and some from other mod creators like yourself(dunno if you know of them already?) im pretty sure they're always looking for cool new mods, i think this mod will gain much more popularity going forward,good luck🙂
I knew of the clock issue (which is part of the reason why I bought an SGB2), but I never dreamed that a solution would be this simple. He also makes a kit to add a link port.
@crosstie417
2 жыл бұрын
Nintendo you had one job making a super game boy. Make a game boy for the snes.......
@codydfwn
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing this would need is GBA compatibility now and this would truly be a dream come true. Sonic Advance co-op would be pretty novel and rad to play in this way, I would think... As I always thought their portables were the extensions of the last/current consoles they had at the time... But also helping the older generation have another life... As they kept 2d alive forever, honestly. Anyway... Not sure how to end this. I just really wanna play some Sonic Advance co-op with a Super Nintendo controller. As emulating it on the SNES mini feels so smooth this way.
@Piggieyt75
Жыл бұрын
@@codydfwn Raphnet makes Super Nintendo to GameCube controller adapters, so with a GameBoy Player, you could use an SNES controller on all games, and maybe use some different mappings.
The retro RGB hate is hilarious, like the whole community knows he's the nicest guy ever and random accusations are just comedy gold.
@HungLe-ys7fk
2 жыл бұрын
It's all inside brokeback mountain lover style jokes
@WhatAboutZoidberg
2 жыл бұрын
Bob's response would probably be "Dont threaten me with a good time"
@seth5362
2 жыл бұрын
You say that now but just wait until all the accusations come out and then he'll be spending life in prison for the terrible, awful, vague crimes he's committed
@GhaleonStrife
2 жыл бұрын
@R-9A Just Voultar and Bob poking fun at each other like they usually do.
@Siktah
2 жыл бұрын
Just whatever you do, don't make fun of him. He gets MIGHTY spicy.
Perfect for beginners. I had my 9 year old do this as his first soldering project.
@TheeDeeM
2 жыл бұрын
This is so wholesome.
@mmik9683
2 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@MaxOakland
2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome
The truth is that it never bothered me that it was faster, even when I was a kid I thought it was faster since it was a SUPER GB and not a Normal Gameboy. XD
@penatio
2 жыл бұрын
So does it make the Castlevania Adventure a bit better?
@DehnusNorder
2 жыл бұрын
Remember this is a community that think they know better than the actual programmers and insists it runs old NES, Megadrive, MasterSystem, Atari games on a RGB connector. So they can count every pixel (while programmers used blending to create the illusion of more colors and even animation. Metroid for instance used it quite extensively :) ). But prepare for battle!! If you try to tell some of them that :P. We are a weird community :P.
@StrokedGT
Жыл бұрын
@@penatio the version of The Adventure found on the PAL Konami GB Collection is supposed to run faster already. Combined with a NTSC Super Gameboy, it might actually feel perfect.
I was hesitant at first trying to do this one because of the surface mounted components, but this step by step tutorial made it easy to understand! Thanks for the great tutorial!
Bro I love you videos everything out them feels so right from the presentation to the soundtracks, absolutely amazing content you put out
What a great mod. As soon as I saw it I ordered it, and it was a breeze to install. All thanks to the confidence instilled by Voultar. Now to tackle that Virtual boy LCD cable mod...
Never had one of these, so I never had that experience. Still, it's cool to see dedicated people making things like this, to actually make gaming better for everyone.
I've never seen something this off and not manage to catch it myself. It's so cool that it's also a fixed problem too!
Were Nintendo aware of it back then? Could that be one of the reasons why the SGB1 didn't have a link up port?
@Voultar
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Nintendo was completely aware of this and is precisely the reason for the link port was omitted. The speed discrepancies between the link port between the SGB and DMG made data transmission incompatible.
@Larry
2 жыл бұрын
@@Voultar Ah, wow. makes you wonder why they didnt try and slow it down, not even for the US or European releases.
@robotredkitten817
2 жыл бұрын
Good observation
@adultmoshifan87
2 жыл бұрын
I guess they didn't include a correction chip as a cost cutting measure
@JustinC721
2 жыл бұрын
Of course they were. Nintendo are the masters of releasing great products with one single glaring flaw.
Hell yea, good timed video. I ordered my mod chip last week, will probably show up in the mail in a few days. Now I get a nice handy tutorial to follow
Thanks for the short and sweet video. It was a good reminder that I’ve been meaning to do this mod and ordered one of the last few devices in stock 👍. This’ll be my first console soldering mod in like 20 years 🤭
Bro these video are so soothing and relaxing !! I even started soldering more often !!
Great video as always :D
Just did this mod today. Your tutorial (and the clock chip itself) made it quick and painless - thanks!
Good to see you back at it.
6:18 as a newbie to soldering, this joint was really impressive (and instructive)
“Who da f@&$ is Makho? never heard of him or she” 😭😂
Excellent video, love that the mod exists and seems very simple to do.
This is way easier and cleaner to install than the one I used. Awesome product!
Love that kid dracula music. I think I read once that the world 2 BGM was an arrangement of a preexisting composition but I can't find that now.
That moment when you recognize Hank Azaria doing his Duffman voice for the super gameboy commercial.
Made a clear case, provided examples and a solution. Fantastic video 👍
Neat! We can actually take advantage of the clock mod to sync up with the real Game Boy speed, plus, if we can mod it with a link cable port for multiplayer, we can have fun in Tetris, and battle it out or even trade Pokémon in Gen 1 and Gen 2.
That 90s SGB commercial gave me feels in all the right places 😂
Hey this was an excellent video, It really helped me install this into my sgb
Great work by Qwertymodo! We now need the same for the GameCube GBA player
I can't believe they got the actual Super Nintendo Chalmers to voice a Super gameboy commercial.
I still wonder how the heck I never noticed this, when I instantly noticed the pitch shift in PAL videos back in the day. I may not have perfect pitch, but I normally notice when the pitch sounds wrong. I guess I played my Super Game Boy a lot more until I got a Game Boy Color, and then I just played it more often.
I'm pretty sure that is Hank Azaria's voice on that commercial.
@xwilliammeex
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I was going to post the same thing. There’s no way it isn’t him!
@teeffw2776
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I was going insane thinking Supernintendo Chalmers was telling me to play on the Super Nintendo.
@brettito
2 жыл бұрын
I hear Duff Man. OOOOOOoooooh yyyyyaaaaaaahhhh!!!
Never noticed the speed difference myself, but honestly not bothered by it. A lot of those old Gameboy games, like Mega Man and Castlevania, just crawl on original hardware anyway.
@chamoo232
2 жыл бұрын
The speed is not as noticeable unless you played the game to death on actual hardware. I installed the mod a few years ago and the main reason I did it was to get rid of the frame drops. If the games run faster they also end up skipping frames to match the fps output. It's very noticeable in games like Super Mario Land. You run to the right and every second you see the clouds and blocks skip a pixel.
@CrashFan03
7 ай бұрын
@@chamoo232 i think the pitch is what makes it noticable for me
@chamoo232
7 ай бұрын
@@CrashFan03 Yeah if you played the game on a GB before it can be weird hearing the music faster and at a higher pitch but if you never played the game before it just seems normal. The frame drops can be noticed on any games that have steady scrolling movements. In Tetris, not so much since only the blocks move. Mario Land, Donkey Kong Land and Megaman on the other hand it can be annoying once you notice the little skip every second.
Nice homage to the PAL only game Die Maus with the music. i enjoyed very much that game.
Definitely going to have to do this mod at some point!
I think I'm gonna go ahead and make this my first soldering project, my super gameboy never gets any action otherwise, this seems like a great project to start with and simple enough for a beginner like myself!
Thanks dude that's awesome thank you for sharing this information
Great video! Now for your follow-up you should add the Gameboy link cable port back to a cart.
I haven’t touched my super game boy since I got the game boy player. I always thought the music was a little off on that thing. Awesome video.
wow this is a really nice clean way to fix this issue. one of the first mods i did was a breadboard version of this fix.it's not pretty but it does work to this day ^_^
Great little mod, definitely picking one of these up!
Always love seeing Voultar uploads, nice pcb design.
*That was fantastic sir!* ⭐️
I'm still new to soldering, but I recently picked up a Super Game Boy! I'm gonna have to pick this up. Man this is just exciting.
Thanks @voultar for the helpful videos. I did this exact same @qwertymodo mod about two years ago, but ended up with glitchy short horizontal lines appearing all over the screen. I haven't touched it since. Any ideas on what I may have done wrong? All the solder points seemed pretty solid.
8:43 RetroRGB 🥰😭😂
LOL, I never noticed the speed difference even though I was aware of it. I mostly just played DK94 on the SGB.
might be nice for playing those old gameboy pokemon games though, not having running shoes was such a pain lol
They got Duffman to do the commercial voiceover! Wow!
Well done. Simple, but enjoyable to watch. I’ve got both sgb1, and sgb2, so I probably won’t get one. It would be cool to add an expansion connector to the original sgb though. Anybody have a board for that? If they did, I’d do the clock mod too.
Your superb soldering skills never fail to impress
Yay Voultar! I can't wait for the next mysteries to learn about.
Man that commercial was intense lol
Awesome video, glad I was able to nab a SGB2. Any plans to restock the PC Engine IFU kit?
Awesome video buddy, thanks!
The best fake names at the end I’ve seen in years. Shame Biggus Dickus was forgot 😂
I'd love to see a video of a recap and/or tbp on a sega genesis next.
Do you always wear your sunglasses in your basement? hehe. Great video though, your stuff is always interesting, thanks for sharing
I always thought this wasn't possible because the difference in clocks would mean the GB hardware would lose sync with the SNES hardware and stop working (Well, without having to buffer all the cart slot IO)... Never looked into the SGB2 hardware because they're practically unobtainium. This is a really cool mod though, I'll definitely be looking for one of these when I start buying gear again.
you should test out "Contra: The Alien Wars" it even has some special supergameboy designed sound fx! very few games do this appart from like "Donkey Kong" etc.
Damn, didn't know the audio was so affected with the og Super Gameboy. Wouldn't mind picking one up and modding in the replacement crystal, as it better fits my north American SNES that the Super Gameboy 2.
Hi Voultar, Do you think the european pal versions of the super gameboy cart will benefit from this mod upgrade? I have a american ntsc snes that is SuperCIC modded, here in the UK. I also use a european Super Gameboy on the snes that appears to work okay.
Honestly I just think the sfc super gameboy 2 is an overall much cooler product… proper clock speed, no mod necessary, plus it has the cool translucent shell and link cable port. They’re pretty inexpensive too! So that’s the route I went. But good to know that there’s something that can be done with all the “regular” super game boys out there so they’re not immediately considered useless by anyone who still wants to play on one.
@Xalusc
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@minifigamer9898
2 жыл бұрын
Hell you can actually use the sgb2 on a north american snes by just clipping two plastic tabs at the bottom of the cartridge slot
@MrRom92DAW
2 жыл бұрын
@@minifigamer9898 yeah, easiest mod ever! Nothing needed but a pair of pliers and 10 seconds of your time lol. After clipping my SNES I honestly have more fun collecting weird SFC stuff that didn’t get released here than I do collecting regular old North American stuff
@kiwisoup
10 ай бұрын
@@minifigamer9898 Or you can just take the board out and put it in the SGB1 and not ruin your SNES.
@minifigamer9898
10 ай бұрын
@@kiwisoup bro the only reason those tabs are in it is to prevent you from playing Japanese games on an American SNES, it's like saying soft modding your Wii to remove region locking is "ruining it"
always learning from seeing your videos
Does this mod also work with the european PAL version of the Super Game Boy? And, if yes, is this mod necessary on PAL versions?
Well, I might just go fix mine now. ( I'm lazy and bought the Japanese SGB 2 haha) Thanks for bringing this to attention!
I can't find any info anywhere: does this work on a PAL cartridge?
I do not remember 90s commercials being that weird.
@evenmorebetter
2 жыл бұрын
Was that Hank Azaria?
@apollolux
2 жыл бұрын
@@evenmorebetter I certainly thought so, that guy sounded very Duffman.
@ayliniemi
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleaccount1860 I'm sure there are plenty of married men who get laid on average more than swingers plus they could play Halo with their kids.
@MaxOakland
2 жыл бұрын
Everything had to be EXTREME
@apollolux
2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxOakland Extreme...TO THE MAX!
Generally, when you do a PCB design, you try to leave nothing under the crystal in case there is interference. It is just a rule I follow all the time. Is it really safe to place it like that?
@qwertymodo
2 жыл бұрын
It was the best I could do with the parts available and the space constraints of the existing board. The crystal is shrink-wrapped to avoid shorting against anything, at least. I'm going to be redesigning the board soon to switch to a completely on-board SMD oscillator, so that won't be an issue anymore.
@Dong_Harvey
2 жыл бұрын
@@qwertymodo that's awesome, I've seen earlier posts regarding your product and how you have been constantly updating the design That's awesome
Always, thanks !
What temperature do you use for this job, and generally other jobs? I always run a high risk of burning boards and components. I’ve been between 343 to 398 C. I am a novice, but still doing many of these mods… Haven’t broke anything so far!
@RyoGrattius
2 жыл бұрын
I'd lower it to 300-325 C range. 398 is very hot and you'll very likely burn off pads if you're not careful. Only time you'd want to think about going that hot is if you're dealing with a very large ground plane.
@rubenmejia4881
2 жыл бұрын
It also depends on your ambient climate when it's really cold I would crank it up a few degrees more but I stick to a happy medium of 350
@TooBokoo
2 жыл бұрын
300ish Celsius is more than enough. Even 343 is pretty high.
@rubenmejia4881
2 жыл бұрын
@@TooBokoo well I'm up north and 300 doesn't cut it for me the solder won't even melt on the tip so I use 340 to 350 but for me 350 is the sweet spot especially since the cold wind tends to cool down the iron in my case but everyone situation is different.
@Alan2E0KVRKing
2 жыл бұрын
I use 325 C for .5mm solder in normal electronics use. 400 C if the pads are large or I'm doing other bigger joints. This is for 60/40 lead/tin solder, I don't use lead free stuff!
Every Time he says Great Job it reminds me of the Tim & Eric Awesome Show or whatever it was called.
0:40 I'll add to that statement, on your tv in color BACKLIT so you weren't contorting to find a good light source everyone forgets that fact. holy shit this dude's soldering skills did not expect that
did this a few years ago. Also a good idea to recap the SGB while you have it open. helps with audio issues later on, since they're using surface mount caps from the 90s in there.
In all honesty I think you are probably the only person on KZread that can wear sunglasses inside and it is acceptable everyone else that does it, just fails miserably, and in movies the only acceptable one is Morpheus. I wonder who wins indoor sunglasses for tv though?
@TerryLondon
Жыл бұрын
I vote for Minty Comedic Arts :)
yknow the speedup of the super gameboy reminds me of how NTSC movies and tv shows are sped up to accomodate for the PAL format. although in that case its 4% faster instead
You make that look so easy!
Well done !
Is there any sort of market for these products modified? I know the V2 super GB goes very high in price compared to the first version, maybe even to the point that a 15 dollar part could get paid for. I might try to offer these modded on my ebay. Maybe. I gotta check a few things. I swear, Nintendo is the shiz, I know there are mods for everything, but damn, there are mods for everything.... I had no idea this common problem already had a fix offered. Very very cool. At the very least I'm gonna correct my personal one. Sick video dude!
Reformed priest. Bahahaha. I love you voultar.
Is pretty awesome modification
I haven't really used my super Gameboy since I did the gba consolizer, but might do this one just for fun
This mod is probably great if you already have a Super GameBoy, and a soldering iron, but idk if this mod is really worth it to someone who doesn't already own a Super GameBoy, unless you want to mod a PAL SGB because you don't have any other options. If you have an NTSC console, the Super GameBoy 2 only costs slightly more than an SGB 1 and Mod Kit, you don't have to wait for stock, and you don't need to solder.
Cool video! Is this compatible with the PAL SGB?
When both original/modded opening tracks were allowed to play at the same time… That is the song of my nightmares.
Being completely used to the speed of a gameboy, the faster speed on the super gameboy always threw me off. So this mod would do a great service for me.
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Anybody else notice the voice of the commercial is Super Nintendo Chalmers?
The Super Game Boy 2 was the first thing we ever imported from Japan. Very cool to see this mod! Should make a lot of people happy.
I'll need one of these for sure. The speed and music pitch has always bothered me and not having to get an SGB2 would definitely be nice.
@PotatoFi
2 жыл бұрын
It does the trick! I was able to pick up a Super Game Boy for $15, and a kit from qwertymodo for a nominal cost - the result is a much, much cheaper, fully functional Super Game Boy.
Cool video. Might you be light sensitive?
thanks voultar!
Voultar im loving this steady stream of new content from you. I never knew this was a thing. Keep em coming Lord Voultar
Dufman is thrusting in the direction of the problem
I always thought it was just a higher pitch. I didn’t think it was slightly faster too.
Great video and completely reasonable for the speed run community, but I only have one thing to say to this mod. "Thanks, I hate it." I didn't even know there was speed change when I was kid.
Man I haven't seen a super game boy in year but I still have one put up in storage
my boy that is Rockman World 5, very different game than Rockman 5 lol
I remember using one of these to play pokemon red. The scuffed battle music just felt so wrong and i couldn't do it
As a kid I only ever played my Gameboy plugged in. Batteries were expensive. Yet I have never owned a SNES. I *should* have gotten a super Gameboy. It would have made much more sense.
Keep up the great content. You are the Bob Ross of your craft. Out here painting lush landscapes on these PCBs with your solder iron.