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@ThinBlueLineGuardian

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@muhammads.a.m4727

Жыл бұрын

Please make a video on USS Diablo SS-479..

@ADB-zf5zr

Жыл бұрын

@3:40 the mistake is made that the Nagato had 10x 16" guns, it had 8x 16" guns as clearly shown in the graphic shown at the same time.! Perhaps you need a proof reader before leaving this to the auto-bot voiceover.!!!! Seriously, you NEED to check the script before posting, I have spotted many errors, some blatant typos, that are then narrated by the auto-bot voiceover.!!!

@Syndr1

Жыл бұрын

Hey ADB..whatever. Why dont you make a video for KZread. Stop judging others hard work.

@Syndr1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dark Seas for all your hard work providing this free and entertaining video. Ignore the haters, who only comment and dont create. Your 💯

My interest in this history is somewhat personal. I served aboard The USS Threadfin SS-410 back in the 60's-70's. The boat given credit for discovering the location of The Yamato and the radio communication of that location which led to it's sinking.

@johnpower8356

Жыл бұрын

Excellent from a fellow submariner

@kcstafford2784

Жыл бұрын

Thank you..

@oogiev2

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service from a Skimmer, DBF.

@kayakdan48

Жыл бұрын

@@oogiev2 LOL:) Squadron 12 in Key West was all diesel boats with our own base = no "Skimmers". So we didn't have anyone calling us "Pig Boat Sailors" to our faces...but we knew they were thinkin' it:). Can't remember all the times I was denied permission to come aboard the Sub Tender because my appearance.

@CBirds

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service.

"In WW1 this ship would have won the war. In WW2 this ship was useless."

@rafael2499

Жыл бұрын

It was used too little too late. Otherwise it would have been a serious challenge to the navy

@iamgaijin88

Жыл бұрын

aircraft carriers made them obsolete

@bkjeong4302

Жыл бұрын

Being a pointless waste of resources was a WWII-gen battleship thing in general, not a Yamato problem specifically (even those that seemingly saw more service almost entirely did so in roles where they were unnecessary and wasteful for). The only two of the 29 WWII-era (as in, battleships that were new at the time) battleships to ever truly justify themselves were Washington and Duke of York. The others would have been better off not existing in the first place.

@bri-manhunter2654

Жыл бұрын

@@bkjeong4302. What? American Iowa class Fast battleships absolutely pulled their weight. And it’s the Montano class big battleships that we’re not needed, that’s why they we’re not built.

@Kakarot64.

Жыл бұрын

@@bkjeong4302 Disrespecting poor HMS Warspite and its 15 battle honours by not even giving it an honourable mention 😭

Every branch of military service has its unique terrors and hazards. The Navy servicemembers of any nation get better food, better sanitation, better sleeping quarters and battle stations than some other branches but there are hazards, too. Being trapped down below while the ship either burns or sinks or both are terrors unique to any Navy. When the USS Arizona went down at Pearl Harbor, almost 1,200 went down with her into a watery grave, some remaining alive and trapped below for hours or even days. When the Imperial Japanese Navy's Yamato went down, almost 3,000 sailors went down with her to their watery grave. War is as insane and wasteful as it is inevitable. There's always somebody eager to start a war using other people's lives.

@falkwulf3842

Жыл бұрын

This is Partially incorrect, Men were trapped on the capsized USS Oklahoma and were alive for days only to suffocate to death in watertight compartments as oxygen was used up. On the USS Arizona everyone who was below deck 2 instantly passed on, Navy Divers went down inside the ship and found that all the bodies, were headless. There is a book on the matter that you should read; Descent Into Darkness: Pearl Harbor, 1941: a Navy Diver's Memoir. The book describes in graphic details that when the Arizona's magazine detonated the overpressure of 240 Tons of powder and another 318 tons of High Explosive 14 inch naval rifle shells, 115 tons of 5 inch naval rifle shells and 55 2000 lb 21 inch torpedos detonating simultaneously was so intense that it popped everyone's head instantly from Stem to Stern no one survived.

@grantsmythe8625

Жыл бұрын

@@falkwulf3842 I'll look into that book. Thank you for the info.

@falkwulf3842

Жыл бұрын

@@grantsmythe8625 It was one of the best books I have ever had the pleasure to read. There are parts of it that are tough to get through. Its a autobiography or sorts written by the divers who went inside the ships to evaluate them and see if they were salvageable or could be returned to service.

@VikingVic76

Жыл бұрын

@@falkwulf3842 Wow, never thought about it like that but it makes sense, especially if it happens below water line. War is hell. I don't suppose the book mentions that we were already intercepting Japanese naval comms & had a idea that the Japanese were on the way to pearl harbor. Some believe it was allowed to happen so we would enter the war. There were a number of critical warships that were sent out of pearl harbor just days before the attack..

@falkwulf3842

Жыл бұрын

@@VikingVic76 Sadly NO the book is only about the Navy Divers that went through incredible odds to raise and salvage the damaged ships of Pearl Harbor. Arizona was slated to be refloated and refurbished and put back into service, however the process was stopped because Arizona's Keel was busted and torn in two for about 90 feet and therefore the ship was deemed by the US Navy as not salvageable other than scrap The diver who made the discovery famously said "Her back is broken". Congress made her a memorial rather than busting her completely up for scrap hence why we still have the memorial today.

I remember playing a game called Battlestations Pacific, in which they had the Yamato mission. In the game, and if you didn't kill it in time, the Yamato would actually travel on to eventually be grounded and became a giant land turret for the island. Fun stuff. Loved that game.

@andyb1653

Жыл бұрын

I had that game! I also played its predecessor, "Battlestations: Midway". Great games, both. Kind of like if "World of Warships" was a single-player campaign game with RTS elements thrown in.

@_-Freeman-_

Жыл бұрын

I think that scenario is actually based on real events involving another ship that was actually grounded and continued to fire its guns as a land turret, though I don't remember the details...

@vudusid8717

Жыл бұрын

@@_-Freeman-_ It was the mission for the Yamato, tho the US Navy destroyed it before it had chance to go to ground. Did you watch the video?

@vudusid8717

Жыл бұрын

@@andyb1653 Yes same here, good times. I also let my friend borrow it who didn't even play video games, but he got addicted to it too. And yes, very much like WOWarships.

@_-Freeman-_

Жыл бұрын

@@vudusid8717 Yes. I was sure I'd heard of another though where a ship did ground... maybe I'm just mixed up...

I saw a picture of the lathe that turned the barrels of Yamato... Let's just say there was a staircase that went up 2 flights just to get to the tool post

Amazing that so much of Japan's military resources went into this ship which ultimately did virtually nothing to further Japan's military objectives. Until the suicide mission to Okinawa, Japan treated the ship as being too valuable to risk in combat which is tragically ironic for a vast weapon of war.

@charles1964

Жыл бұрын

Germany treated her capital ships in both World Wars much the same way...

@janpost8598

Жыл бұрын

Look at it as a nuclear weapon. It serves you best if never used.

@iso-ski

Жыл бұрын

@73honda350 There is a movie in Japan called "The Great War of Archimedes" (2019) that goes over the corruption involved with the building of the ship. @charles1964 I agree with most of your statement, but I feel the concept of a "Capital Ship" is lost to us in this time. They represented a nation as a whole and nations worldwide at the time all saw their retrospective capital ship as the symbol of their navy. Even in our common vocabulary, we use the word "Flagship" frequently, though it's origin of use in the Navy describes a ship that holds the commander of the fleet. A modern example in Ukraine you can see similar parallels as the sinking of the Moskva (the Russian Flagship of the Black sea) being such a powerful symbol of Ukraine successes that it was made into a postal stamp. Now think that the Capital Ship is of even more significance and is almost always simultaneously the Flagship of it's fleet. Tie this to Yamato, one of the common nicknames the Japanese had for Yamato was the "Hotel Yamato" as it often remained docked or at the least out of harms way. When the German's lost the Bizmark (the German equivalent of the Yamato) it was kept a secret from the people of Germany.

@73honda350

Жыл бұрын

@@iso-ski A parallel that hasn't been mentioned is what the Germans did with the Tirpitz after the Bismark was sunk. They just hid in Norwegian fjords until it was finally sunk by the RAF. Even its AAA guns were removed and put on surrounding ground to defend it from the air. It could barely even be considered a warship when it was sunk because it was no longer much of a naval weapon just moored in a fjord hiding from the enemy and relying on shore-based defences.

@williampaz2092

Жыл бұрын

When the Japanese designed the Yamato Class Battleship they were designing a ship that was already becoming obsolete. Her 18” Naval Rifles could hit targets 25 miles away. What good does that do against an Aircraft Carrier that launch an air strike from 300 nautical miles away? The Yamato’s were supposed to reach a speed of 31 knots (the Japanese chose to sacrifice 5 knots speed for extra armor) but even if the could have steamed at 31 knots aircraft have to SLOW DOWN to fly at 130 mph. And no matter how much armor a ship has: 1) it’s propellers and rudders are still vulnerable and 2) repeatedly hitting the same area will penetrate the armor. The Japanese dreamed of the perfect sword and then carried that sword to a gunfight.

Anything Yamato i click on like a dog getting a treat.

@razor21212121

Жыл бұрын

I know more about the ship now than the imperial navy did...

@rakibulparag

Жыл бұрын

Yamato and Bismarck

@yourboio3636

Жыл бұрын

YESSIR

@jerryjeromehawkins1712

Жыл бұрын

@@rakibulparag They both needed to go down... but I wish they were both still afloat. Two amazing ships! 👍🏼

@jasonsmith1143

Жыл бұрын

me too

According to a book I own since the mid-80’s, Yamato’s shells fired from her main gun could travel at least 60km and as high as Mt.Fuji during that flight. By the way, visiting the Yamato Museum in Kure has been on my bucket list for the longest time.

@danielbradley5255

Жыл бұрын

60 km was probably a distance achieved at its absolute maximum, which, at 37 miles, would be one extremely lucky shot with a hell of an assist from strong gusts lol. But given the maximum "effective" range of 23 (or was it 26?) miles from ships like U.S.S. Missouri, Yamato wouldn't be much greater

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

@@danielbradley5255 The Iowa class could not fire accurately from max ranges. Target practice done on the USS Nevada displayed that perfectly

@MyBahamas242

Жыл бұрын

Tell me ur jokin 60km and as high as mt fuji?¡

@paulyiustravelogue

Жыл бұрын

@@MyBahamas242 first of all, read what I wrote again. Secondly, I just pulled out that said old book and re-read that portion. Apparently my memory wasn't very good... according to that book I have titled Yamato and Musashi (大和と武蔵), each fully loaded shell could travel only 32Km far, but as high as 5700m in the air; or nearly twice as tall as Mt.Fuji.

@patrickmccrann991

Жыл бұрын

@@paulyiustravelogue She couldn't elevate her guns high enough to reach 5700m. Naval guns are flat trajectory weapons and don't have extremely high trajectory.

The sinking of Yamato brought an end to the Battleship Era even though we still operated the Iowa class off & on until the early 90's. Her sinking proved air power was the future & no matter how thick the armor was, the ship would still end up on the bottom under relentless fire from a determined opponent. The amount of damage that ship sustained is mind blowing before she went down.

@scooterbob4432

Жыл бұрын

Same with the sinking of the Bismarck but I think it was the most colorful and most feared battleship of WW2, especially after it sank HMS Hood with one salvo.

@rogergoodman8665

Жыл бұрын

@@scooterbob4432 : How can Bismarck be the most feared Battleship of the war when her total career lasted only 8 months & she was sank 8 days into her first combat patrol. The same goes for Yamato. She also floundered on her first combat patrol. The Iowa class served the United States thru 50 years, 4 major wars & countless smaller engagements. Yamato & her sister and Bismark & Tirpitz may have been technically more powerful but the Iowa class battleships are the most feared, most decorated, & longest serving Battleships of all time for any nation.

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

@@rogergoodman8665 Bismarck was the most feared battleship because Bismarck did something the Iowas, and to an extent Yamato could only dream of, sinking an enemy battleship, and not just any battleship, the Royal Navy flagship, the legendary Hood, with a single shot. While Bismarck was not the biggest battleship, nor the most powerful, she was the most feared

@MrOiram46

Жыл бұрын

@@metaknight115 The Hood at the time of its sinking was more Battlecruiser than Battleship; It lacked the necessary upgrades that would have let it fare better if it had them. Not to mention that the Bismarck had been already sunk by the time the first of the Yamato and Iowa classes have been completed and entered service. If the Bismarck had not been sunk and somehow survive all the way to when the first Iowa-class first enters service, (President Roosevelt boarded the Iowa across the Atlantic to have a conference with other Allied leaders) the Iowa would eventually catch up to it with its speed and just kite along just outside the range of the Bismarck’s guns, while the Iowa’s guns can reach the Bismarck.

@MrOiram46

Жыл бұрын

@@rogergoodman8665 The Iowas had super heavy AP shells that can similarly perform like the Yamato’s 18.1 inch shells, but also had more accurate fire control even at night and was considerably fast. And they could also fire Nuke shells, the Iowas were definitely much more powerful than the Bismarck-class

I went to the Kure museum, in 2006 with my friend, a retired JMSDF veteran. I have pictures of that giant Yamato model.

My uncle James Comet was on the Samuel B Roberts at Leyte. It sank and he was one of the few who survived. When he would tell the story about the battle and of his 3 days in the water with sharks . 😢

My dad and his shipmates on the USS Johnston were so fascinated with this ship that they wanted to get closer for a better look. Unfortunately they got too close!

Should’ve played the Star Blazers anime theme song before showing video. 😂

When Yamato sank her magazine detonated with such force that few planes where destroyed by the shockwave

@Marc816

Жыл бұрын

Yes.....I read 10% as powerful as the explosion of the Little Boy.

The technological advantage of the Yamato class was wasted by the "decisive battle" doctrine. Had they been deployed early in the war, what was left of the US Pacific fleet would have been no match, but they were kept in reserve waiting for the big moment, and in the end the era of the battleship was over. Air power reigned.

@durango.j-onez

Жыл бұрын

If she was more involved at midway (with an adequate destroyer/cruiser + CAP escort), Who knows what could have happened

@Thx1138sober

Жыл бұрын

The Yamato and her sister had too deep a draft (36') to operate effectively around the Solomon Islands and Guadalcanal, which is another reason they never risked them there when they still had the upper hand in 42.

@kaltaron1284

Жыл бұрын

The problem with that idea is that Yamato and Musashi would slow down other elements of the fleet so you have to be careful how to coordinate them with faster elements. After the USN had cracked their codes that coordination would spell their doom anyway. Also they were quite thirsty beasts. Much of Japans fuel was needed to keep the planes and convoys running.

@silincer5186

Жыл бұрын

Yamato and her Sister also were send out on multiple sortie to fight the enemy but either they didn't catch any enemy or the battle was already lost before they arrived. She wasn't used at guadalcanal due to lack of suitable 46cm ammunition for shore bombardment and uncharted water. Then they were in dry dock for general repairs. While ferrying troops Allies Submarine torp and damage them and they had to be temporary repairs by Akashi(repair ship) and send back to drydock for repairs again and also to refit. At Samar, She fired multiple rounds and score some straddles and hit. The IJN admiral tried to used them multiple times but it's just that situation didn't allow it or they couldn't find any enemy while on sortie. The Allies had already cracked their codes early in the war.

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

@@kaltaron1284 No they wouldn't. They had a standard cruising speed of 16 knots

This was the most powerful battleship ever created by man, this is a historical fact that can never be taken away from Japan. As an American I am extremely proud that the Japanese are our allies.

@dannycalley7777

Жыл бұрын

KA .....................they will be sailing with the 7th around Taiwan shortly, perhaps less than 2 years in defense of

@miltonhollis703

Жыл бұрын

Regiment 442 of Japanese American soldiers ♥️ showed How good is Japanese American In WW2 against the Germans..... Undefeated"

@sameppink9401

5 ай бұрын

@@steviechampagnethey weren’t fighting for their heritage.

The timing of this is perfect as Japan parliament is working on passing a bill to build two 20,000 ton+ destroyers as an alternative to onshore aegis systems primarily for the defense against ICBMs. For those interested in Yamato, there is a movie in Japan called "The Great War of Archimedes" just released in 2019 talking about the corruption involved during the building of the Yamato. I've watched many videos / read many articles on Yamato but never heard it outside the movie so wanted to bring light to it. This is a great video as it points to some parts rarely discussed from the Japanese perspective as the "Racial Equality Proposal" in the Treaty of Versailles which had a great impact on relations to the point a long running politician simply retired upon it was vetoed. Issues like the Washington Naval Treaty were so divisive even within the IJN that two factions within emerged with the Treaty Faction (for the treaty) and the Fleet Faction (found the treaty discriminatory and should not be followed). Disclaimer: don't worry, I am not justifying the actions of Japan, simply bringing to light the motives of the Japanese as they are rarely discussed (ex. In contrast, how well known the same Treaty of Versailles had some influences to the events leading to Germany's actions in WWII).

@erichvonmanstein6876

Жыл бұрын

Been knowing about that movie. Its not very good

@haikudragon1002

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense, they felt ostracized..and in a world where discrimination and racism was the norm they decided the hell with it. I never heard of this until I watched the video, makes sense why they joined in the second world war....unfortunate so many died on all sides of the war but glad that was clarified as 2 why they felt the way they did.

Fell in love with this ship when I saw her in the cartoon Starblazers. Those guns turning and aiming always give me the chills.

@markplott4820

Жыл бұрын

there is a LIVE action Yamato (starblazers) on KZread. there is also a Live Action accrurate Yamato film - men of Yamato , made in Japan.

@pilotman012

Жыл бұрын

Same. I've watched the remaster with the sinking scene put back in the story. I got chills as the ship passed the fisherman and his son in the fog.

In 2011 I attended a lecture by a USN 'ace in a day' aviator about the sinking of the Yamato. We were hunting for it and when located all aircraft were launched with the sole purpose of sinking the Yamato. Much to his distress he was assigned to photograph the encounter and not in a combat role. He took many photographs but when the negatives were developed, most of them were stolen. Thus there is very little photographic records of the sinking.

@Mr._Infamous

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. Why would someone steal those photos? I doubt it was due to secret technology, considering if so the pictures would probably have shown up later. That's very interesting indeed. I hadn't heard that story. Thanks for sharing.

@bsa45acp

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr._Infamous They were most likely taken as 'souvenirs' (according to the speaker) and not because of any secret technology. If I were one of the aviators who sunk the Yamato, I might have stolen a few myself.

Nagano only had 8 16inch guns, her planned refit to equip her B and Y turrets with an extra barrel each never came to fruition

Space Battleship Yamato is a very interesting sci fi movie. I found it fascinating as it shows that the spirit is still there.

I can see Wedge from Star Wars saying, " look at the size of that thing!" As US torpedo planes setup their attack run.

Over 2 hours of constant bombardment and at least 11 torpedo hits to sink her. Wow. She was an absolute monster and went down swinging and with honor. Much respect to Yamato and the Japanese who built and fought with her. She had to be completely swarmed to be beaten. What a legend...

@CRAZYHORSE19682003

Жыл бұрын

It didn't take 11 torpedo's to sink her, that was how many she was hit with. She might have gone down with as little as 4 torpedo hits.

@Mr._Infamous

Жыл бұрын

@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 good point. I didn't really even think of it like that.

@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent

Жыл бұрын

Its been described by both Japanese and American historians that the attack of Yamato was not really so much as a attack but a execution. Given the numbers of aircraft sent to attack her. Yamato pretty much had the entirety several carriers of the US pacific fleet attacking her. That being said. The ship went down fighting and yes indeed it took two hours of constant bombardment and nearly a dozen torps to finally take her down. So yeah your correct. The only way to have defeated her is by a swarm. She also had a grim foreshadowing for the end of Japan as well given that defeated she exploded into a mushroom cloud. a grim telling of the country Japan who's historical name originally was. Yamato..

@georgebronte840

Жыл бұрын

Alas, all a pointless waste unless you take account of the big picture.

@tomhenry897

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t take that much to sink her we just kept shooting

The IJN Yamato was an impressive ship with 18 inch main armament was not as advanced as the Iowa Class Battleships in almost every category. As far as Japan being humiliated by The Washington Naval Treaty, the 70% is a Fallacy as the USN had to split it's forces between 2 Oceans, giving the IJN dominance in the Pacific - most the Fleet had only just been moved to Pearl Harbor in '41, due to Japanese expansionism since 1931. But take heart lovers of The Yamato - in 2199 she will rise again...Searching for a Distant Star...Heading off to Iscandar...

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

The Yamato was more advanced than Iowa in the reloading process. Yamato's reload process was completely automated, which allowed her guns to achieve an equal rate of fire to the Iowa, who still heavily relied on manpower to reload her guns.

@seventhson27

Жыл бұрын

The Musashi may be a better candidate. I think she is still in one piece. They Yamato was split in two by the forward magazine explosion.

@charles1964

Жыл бұрын

@@metaknight115 I said she was an impressive ship, beautiful actually, but she was Slow, and her Armor wasn't all it was cracked up to be, as the USS Skate proved. Her Radar, Fire Control System, and Type 95/96 Anti-Aircraft Armament were woefully inadequate for the task at hand, and the Type 3 18" Sanshiki AA Rounds were useless. Besides, I don't know where you heard that Yamato's 18" Main Armament was "Completely Automated" because it wasn't...

@CRAZYHORSE19682003

Жыл бұрын

@@metaknight115 LOL You are wrong. The Yamato used the same method of shell hoists and powder hoists. In the video I watched on how the guns were operated it shows the men for a few seconds before removing them giving the impression that the turrets were automated....which they were not.

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

@@charles1964 I watched an 18 minute breakdown on how Yamato’s guns worked, and it was mostly automated

Don't threaten me with a Yamato video and that soothing voice good sir..... don't you dare!

You left out another extremely important event in Yamato's career, the battle of Samar. Shortly after Yamato retreated from Leyte Gulf, she turned back to the island and snuck up on Taffy 3, a small naval force that supported troops consisting of 6 escort carriers, 3 destroyers, and 4 frigates (known in America at the time as destroyer escorts). During the battle, Yamato engaged surface targets for the first and only time of her career, hitting the escort carrier White Plains from a distance of 20 miles. Soon afterwards, from an unknown, but allegedly long distance, fired one hit and several damaging near misses on the US escort carrier Gambier Bay, which caused bad flooding damage that resulted in Gambier Bay capsizing and sinking. She then targeted the destroyer Johnston, hitting Johnston with several main and secondary shells, but was soon forced to retreat due to torpedoes. Johnston would survive due to Yamato firing the wrong type of ammunition. As she was evading, she claimed multiple secondary battery hits on the US destroyer Hoel, contributing to the ship's sinking. Sources differ on what happened afterwards. Some claim that she never rejoined the fight, while others claim she rejoined 20 minutes later, engaged the frigate Samuel B Roberts, but claimed no hits, and finished of the battle by sinking, or helping to sink the Johnston before retreating due to a mixture of carrier aircraft and the Johnston tricking Kurita into believing that he was facing a much larger force than he was actually facing.

@CRAZYHORSE19682003

Жыл бұрын

She never hit Gambier bay, she straddled her several times and one of those underwater detonations buckled Gambier Bay's hull plating leading to her capsizing.

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 Really? Both Wikipedia articles for Gambier Bay and Yamato claim that Yamato scored hits. The story allegedly goes that after Chikuma scored a few hits on Gambier Bay, but turned her attention to the destroyer Heerman, Yamato and Kongo both targeted Gambier Bay. Yamato and Kongo claimed hits on Gambier Bay, but most sources agree that it was Yamato that sank gambier Bay. For quite some time, it was thought that the heavy cruiser Chikuma sank Gambier Bay, but around 2012, new information about the battle revealed that it was Yamato that sank it. This wouldn't be the first time the enemy forces were misidentified by Taffy 3. It was thought that Kongo disabled Johnston, but new info proved that it was Yamato that did so. It was thought that White plains crippled the cruiser Chokai with a single 5 inch shell, but the discovery of Chikai's wreck showed the torpedoes to be completely intact, with most modern historians agreeing that Chokai was crippled by a friendly fire incident from Kongo.

@devo1977s

Жыл бұрын

@@metaknight115 😂😂 Wikipedia I remember reading the Wikipedia article about the moon and some one put in that it was actually a battle station called the death star. I'm certain Wikipedia is much more accurate now, but I'm pretty sure you are still not allowed to use Wikipedia as a legitimate reference in any scholar application.

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

@@devo1977s That was probably a troll making a joke. Back when I was still in my cringy Danganronpa phase, I remember seeing a troll who made up a bunch of memes about a character I like to call "emo boi". What confirms it as true in my opinion is that the articles for both ships claim the same thing, Yamato claimed hits, rather than one article claiming one thine and the other article claiming something else.

@taktuscat4250

Жыл бұрын

@@metaknight115 reading Wikipedia is ok, just look for the source of the story. I for one also looking for the evidence that yamato did indeed actually fire upon Johnston. Since it's not written in the after action of Johnston's surviving crew after the engagement

The timing of this vid is perfect, I just finished building a pretty epic model of this ship. Thank you

Great show thanks

The Yamato was a beast of a ship.

Considering the fact that the US Navy could have thrown ten Battleships at Yamato, including four of the very nearly equivalent Iowa class as well as the North Carolina South Dakota classes, and still left another ten Battleships in reserve, Yamato never stood a chance. I have to imagine the IJN knew this and the real purpose was to deny the US the ability to capture Yamato, instead having her go down fighting.

@juslitor

Жыл бұрын

And yet, in the end, Yamato was sunk by airplanes and torpedoes, not battleships.

@erichvonmanstein6876

Жыл бұрын

With the punishment yamato and musashi took im not so sure battleships could have taken down these two monsters. For certain not without losing multiple of their own

What a Beautiful Ship.Amazing. 3000 plus crew. What a Beast of a Ship.

One version I heard was that the Yamato didn't take the full crew with, just what Captain Kosaku Aruga thought he would need to fight and keep the engines running as he didn't really expect to get to Okinawa.

An amazing feat of engineering and technological achievement for the time, but practically obsolete as it went into service because of rapid changes in naval warfare tactics and the proliferation of cv's.

@stevenc8140

Жыл бұрын

Actually three this sized were planned. But because of Midway Japan was forced to build carriers. Yamato was also launched in complete secrecy with all the local population told to remain indoors windows closed/drawn!

@RacerX888

Жыл бұрын

A very good Japanese movie on the building of the Yamato is called The Great War of Archimedes. Its actually a really good movie as well.

@trailrunnah8886

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm sure the thing was great for morale and publicity among Japanese citizens, but what a colossal waste of resources. I feel like aircraft carriers are now what battleships were in 1940. With today's long range missiles, aircraft carriers are pretty much sitting ducks these days.

@kennethcaine3402

Жыл бұрын

By the time Yamato went into combat battle ships were on their way out.

@stevenc8140

Жыл бұрын

@@trailrunnah8886 partially true. But the ability to place a ship with approximately 100 planes on notice 48 hours to set sail and then reach ANY part of the globe in 4-5 days is only done by one country. Also, you have frigates, destroyers, & subs that escort and perform “Picket” duty to protect the carrier. It is also Vital that the Navy develop the Poseidon P8 as an adjunct to fleet early warning ECM plane to also aid and increase the scope of protection.

Fabulous telling. Remarkable history.

Thanks 🙏🏿

A little error on the Nagato towards the beginning of the video: Nagato did not have 10 main battery guns but only 8x410mm (16") guns

@su-57stealthfighter73

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it should be the AMAGI class Battlecruiser and TOSA class Battleship..

I love every details you give . keep it up 👍🏿

I really enjoy these videos put out by Dark Seas and the narrator is so easy to understand and has a real command of The English Language~!!

That beat is fire.

Thanks

The narrator is WRONG. Though, the IJN Musashi was to sink due to the extensive damage she suffered. Admiral Kurita did what German Admiral Riehardt Scheer had done, during the Battle of Jutland during WW1. He executed two (2) "Battle turns." That's where, upon some sort of secret code or, whatever. All the ships in the battlegroup to turn, simultaneously. Thereby, giving your enemy the APPEARANCE of a tactical withdrawal. Then, again, at a predetermined time, said Admiral orders a SECOND BATTLETURN!!! Just as I Rienhardt Sheer had done during Jutland. Brilliant, sound naval tactical doctrine. It would've been even better if they had won the upcoming Battle of Surigao Strait. The last battleship-on-battleship engagement to ever take place on Earth. Rear Admiral Jesse Oldendorf set his battleline up PERFECTLY!!! My heart goes out to those sailors aboard the battleships that had taken part in the epic battle!!!! I speak of "The Pearl Harbor sisters!!!" Yessir; of the 7 "Pearl Harbor sister battleships, only 3, were to never took part in this battle. The USS Nevada (BB-36), the USS Arizona (BB-39) &, the USS Oklahoma (BB-37). The Nevada was in the European Theater of Operations; I believe she was in transit to the Pacific. Someone, please, let me know what she was doing during this epic naval action. The Arizona, for obvious reasons!!!!! The Oklahoma was sold off for scrap. Personally, I would've mad her a floating museum strictly about the naval battle of Pearl Harbor, replete with eyewitnesses accounts, everything that on that fateful day. Here are the "Pearl Harbor sisters," in hull number order: USS Pennsylvania (BB-38); USS Tennessee (BB-43); USS California (BB-44); USS West Virginia (BB-48) There was another battleship that was there, she's the USS Mississippi (BB-41) She wasn't at Pearl Harbor, during the attack.

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

Taking on two-three ww1 battleships were what the Yamato and Musashi were built for. They could take them on, destroy their secondaries, sink some, and leave others vulnerable to torpedoes from various cruisers and destroyers

Thank you so much ❤ I love this channel

I had two large battleship models the Yamato and the Arizona , they are still in my home office.

I have been there at the Yamato museum in 2015.Right next to it you have the JMSDF Kure Museum with a large sub in front. There are also some pieces of the Battleship Mutsu in front of the Yamato museum. The model itself is very impressive but they do not mention that her last mission was actually a kamikaze mission

@charles1964

Жыл бұрын

Strange Japan can honor their "War Criminals" but Germany can't? There must be Six Million reasons why Germany can't without breaking the law? But Manchukuo, Shanghai, Nanking, Sneak Attacks, POW Death March Massacres, Kempeitai Atrocities, Unit 731 & Unit 100 Germ Warfare, and Untold Numbers of Civilian Massacres are "A-OK Joe"?

@normanbraslow7902

Жыл бұрын

That's not mentioned because it was not a kamikaze mission. Not expected to survive, but there wa no intention to have her suck or destroyed.

@felixcortez7604

Жыл бұрын

@@normanbraslow7902 The ship had been given just enough fuel to reach Okinawa .That was it.Not much of a fighting chance. Even beached without fuel ,without energy, it would have been useless

@taf9656

Жыл бұрын

The term “Kamikaze” in Japanese is usually used to refer to the suicidal mission executed by aircraft so we usually call her mission “Kaijō Tokkō” which literally means Marin Suicidal Mission. (I’m a native Japanese.)

Very interesting, thanks for sharing.

The mythology about how impenetrable Yamato's armor was may have been overstated. According to a video elsewhere on KZread, after the war they found a large piece of 26-inch armor plate of the type used on Yamato (on the mantle of a main turret), possibly intended for the sister battleship Shinano that was converted into a carrier late in the war. It was taken back to Dahlgren Surface Warfare Center in Virginia and tested against a standard US 16-inch shell at 400 yards, which blew all the way through the plate with enough energy left to also go through the embankment behind it and ended up in the Potomac. I would have been exciting to be on a small boat out there fishing when that happened. Metallurgical testing showed it was a rather poor quality of steel, lots of impurities. It's still on display at Dahlgren. Maybe the armor plate would have fared better at a more typical battleship gun duel range, and maybe the test plate was a late-war product after Japan's production facilities were degraded, but it does raise some doubts.

@andrewyork3869

9 ай бұрын

It's important but most likely not decisive that the shell in question hit at a perfect 90 degree angle. Something that just given nothing but the hull shape was nearly impossible in practice.

@malakaman9468

7 ай бұрын

What naval engagement would take place at 400 yards? 'According to a video on KZread' - Very conclusive evidence, really. Yamato had enough armor in some places to be impenetrable to any and every shell availabel. Did she have perfect armor? No, but enough armor to shrug off a fake battlecruiser like iowa. Get your head out of your ass already, americans.

@metaknight115

5 ай бұрын

You think enemy ships are engaging each other at 400 FEET, not yards? The armor was proven to be immune at all realistic battle ranges, Yamato's 16.1-inch belt and 7.9-9.1-13.4-inch deck had a designed immunity to her own guns from 21,800 to 31,800 yards, and an estimated immunity to USS Iowas guns from 18,000 to 36,000 yards.

The decision to convert Shinano was not in 1939. The decision was made after the carrier loses at Midway in 1942. The construction of here was so far along that she could not be made up as a fleet carrier. Shinano was thus outfitted as a support carrier.

@shaider1982

Жыл бұрын

1842?!

Thank you for your awesome videos, i appreciate your hard work.

The Yamato was a BEAST!

@kurtwinter4422

Жыл бұрын

And will be again when launched as the Space Battleship Yamato, to save Earth and all humanity

@ThinBlueLineGuardian

Жыл бұрын

@@kurtwinter4422 lmao

@erichammond9308

Жыл бұрын

By 1942 she was a tiger. a paper tiger, that is. All of that armament and armor was limited by First World War era fire control technology. By 1943 the US has the North Carolina and South Dakota class ships that could both fire the "super heavy" 16 inch 2700 pound AP shells accurately out to 21 miles. The effective range of the 18 inch guns of Yamato was 17 miles, and beyond 20 miles they were basically firing in a general direction with minimal chance of hitting anything. The NC and SD class ships could sit outside of her range and land main battery hit after main battery hit and at that range the shells would be hitting the 7 to 9 inch thick deck armor and not the main belt.

@juslitor

Жыл бұрын

@@erichammond9308 You forgot to mention the most important asset the yankees had, fire control radar. That more than anything made the yankee battleships superior.

@erichammond9308

Жыл бұрын

@@juslitor That's exactly what I was talking about. The Yamato was limited by her obsolete optical only fire control system and the US ships used a radar and computer fire control system that was so accurate once dialed in that when the Navy reactivated the Iowa class battleships in the 1980's more modern systems couldn't improve upon it.

Battleships were more like national status symbols than actual weapons. Every nation that thought of itself as a "great power" had to have battleships. The problem was that once built they became so valuable that they were surrounded by escorts and barely saw any action that might put them under serious threat. So they were basically a waste of money, resources and manpower. The same thing is happening with big carriers now. America has many them. The UK has built two we can barely afford. India has two and is planning more. China has at least four. France has two and is planning a 78,000 ton nuclear powered monster in the 2030's. Yet the West's main enemies are Russia and China. Both land powers that maintain large armies and land based airforces. As we have seen with Russia. Carriers won't stop them. Boots on the ground are the only real counter to a large army.

What got me most about the video is the trap beat in the background at 3:12🤙

Absolutely excellent, informative, detailed, enjoyable, interesting, outstanding production. Thank you. 👍🏻😉🇺🇸

A piece of the armor belt is on display on the shipyard where she was built.

Beat goes crazy bro

Thank goodness Japan spent so much time and resources on this ship! Imagine the aircraft that could have been produced.

A lot was left out like when Yamato magazines exploded, the explosion could be seen from over 100 miles away. Before sailing all of the junior cadets were removed from the ship and reassigned. They were told they were young and needed elsewhere and not to be used up.

Wow that ship is huge

Hey guys this was a great video I really enjoyed it I learned a lot more about her then what I had known before I lived in Hawaii for three and a half years and in high school there we studied a lot of WW2 in the Pacific

The Right ship at the wrong time , all it needed was AA and ASW defences and Air support , and technology , and it could have become the Most proven powerful warship

Strange that these major battleships of the Axis , apart from Bismarks sinking of the Hood actually did very little in the way of major victories .

@carlosmarquez5901

Жыл бұрын

Well battleships in general did not all that much during the war

@Apodeipnon

Жыл бұрын

Idk if I'm wrong but there were only like three battles between battleships in history. I'm probably wrong tbh. But I think it's Tsushima, Jutland and some other one

@carlosmarquez5901

Жыл бұрын

@@Apodeipnon there were more, in WW2, there was The denmark straits, then the finals stand of Bismarck, in the med warspite exchange a few blows with the italian battleships, the more famous ones i think were sinking of kirishima i might be missing some

@carlosmarquez5901

Жыл бұрын

ah yes, during casablanca and mers el kebir

@Apodeipnon

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosmarquez5901 ah i mean battleship vs battleship "Three major fleet actions between steel battleships took place: the long-range gunnery duel at the Battle of the Yellow Sea[10] in 1904, the decisive Battle of Tsushima in 1905 (both during the Russo-Japanese War) and the inconclusive Battle of Jutland in 1916, during the First World War." Says wiki

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The decision to convert Shinano to a carrier came after Midway. It was 6 months before Pearl Harbor that they paused construction on her. Yamato's escorts weren't "all gone." The luckiest ship in the IJN failed her duty and watched all 3 Yamato class ships sink while under her protection. Like Shigure, Yuukikaze's luck didn't extend outside of her hull.

The Japanese have never been able to get over on the Yamato sinking. Proof of that is the animated Star Blazers (see my avatar) and then the live action version (found for free here on YT) as well as the popularity of Star Blazers merch.

Great video!

After the event of carrier aviation the Yamato was called "The right ship for the wrong war"

At the beginning of the war it was every Admiral's dream to win the "one big decisive battle", but that battle never happened and by war's end, the role of a Navy would be forever changed and never again would anyone dream that same dream.

Yamato is the perfect weapon to an age long gone.

The Washington Naval treaty was what limited the construction of battleships. Not the Treaty of Versailles. I think you got Japan and Germany mixed up for WW1. Japan was with the allies during WW1.

Yamato, Musashi and Shinano 😍😍😍

At least they raised it and turned it into the Argo.

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

Next up is Space Battleship Yamato!!!

Beautiful battleship

@YarIsGoober

Жыл бұрын

But useless

Enjoyable presentation

A 1/10th scale model of the Yamato? Gosh, that's a heck of a model ! 🤔

The Yamato: Creating a massively target rich environment... aaaaaall by itself, by just being one huge crappy target.

Why did i first now discover your channel

美しい戦艦だ

the mighty battleships once dominated the rough seas until aircraft carriers came along.

A Glorious Way to Die is a great book on the Yamato's mission in ten-go, it's told from the American and Japanese prospective

Good Vid !

Where do you get your footage. The videos are awesome. Btw I love your videos they are short and yet so informative

Probably the greatest ship to ever sail the seas.

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

Greatest battleship. USS Enterpirse beats out Yamato by far.

@jasonjoseph3975

Жыл бұрын

@@metaknight115 I don't disagree in a fight w/fixed wing aircraft involved especially, but Yamato is a bit more impressive weapon & armor wise

@metaknight115

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonjoseph3975 Fair enough. I can agree with that. Yamato would beat any battleship except the Iowa in certain battle conditions in a 1v1

@jasonjoseph3975

Жыл бұрын

@@metaknight115 I agree!

When the Yamato was sunk, the US navy's plan was to put all torpedoes on the same side so she would capsize. The Musashi took about 19 torpedoes but spread between both sides.

As a fan of Star Blazers (Space Battleship Yamato) this brings out the revisionism in the lore while explaining others. Impregnable sounds a bit like unsinkable.

The music at the start was awesome, really wished there was more footage. Overall great video. That ending fact that there is a 1/10th model of the Yamato at the Yamato Museum is really cool. If I ever went on a trip to Japan (not a huge 'japan guy') that's the first thing I'd want to see (cos I am a bit of a 'ship guy' lol)! Sounds very very impressive.

A 1/10th scale model, of a ship the size of Yamato, would still be about twice the size of any boat I've ever been on.

Visited Kure 2 years ago many artifacts i the museum

Has the wreck of the Yamato ever been on the ocean floor?

How about videos on internal designs of ships, flaws, design triumphs, mechanics involved in operations and such?

If it wasn't for the cartoon StarBlazers I wouldn't know of the Battleship Yamato

That thumbnail makes it look so gorgeous

Yamato's crew was sacrificed so old admirals could save face when asked what the navy had done to help defend Okinawa. By this time in the war, Japan was completely isolated and cut off from all her stolen resources. They were defeated. They just wouldn't accept these facts. The old samurai would happily sacrifice all the civilians in Japan to maintain the fantasy that they would eventually win. This included the fire bombing of Tokyo and all other major cities plus the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The destruction of their army in Manchuria by the Red Army finally brought things to a close.

Awesome videos

Damn , 3,000 lbs shell that can go 26 Miles

Glad this ship was sunk. It's was a ship of a violent belligerent enemy

looking at the 1/10th model.... it was so heavily armed!

The Yamato-class was armed with 9x46cm (18,1") guns not 18"

I highly recommend the Japanese movie Yamato - Otoko-tachi No Yamato. The music was composed by Joe Hisaishi.who was involved in director Hayao Miyazaki.