Nothing short of fascinating, thank you so much for this splendid upload. Since I have turned into an individual who is completely obsessed with anything pertaining to Ancient Mesopotamia, particularly from Sumer and Assyria, I simply cannot get enough data, which could fully satisfy my endless curiosity about these peoples and their mysterious archaic epoch... BRAVO!

I'm now overwhelmed by a need to know more about the innkeeper queen of Sumer!

The Ashmolean is a great museum, but if you visit Oxford don't forget the wonderful University and Pitt Rivers Museum as well as The Science Museum in Broad Street. Very interesting presentation as always.

@mnomadvfx

2 жыл бұрын

Great bookshop Blackwells too, it has a very oldskool university bookshop feel to it even with the popular fiction books it stocks too.

This is a great idea for a series! Thanks for doing this.

Woah! A Sumerian text besides Gilgamesh that's actually NOT a trade receipt! Well, I guess it's still kind of a list of purchases...

@mnomadvfx

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't the Epic of Gilgamesh much newer than Sumerian texts? Not to mention as the prof says it's likely Akkadian in origin anyways.

@AethelwulfBretwalda

2 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx I don't know, I just threw it in there to cover my bases haha

@lcmiracle

2 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx The babylonian versions of the Epic of gilgamesh did derive itself from 5 earlier, sumerian poems. I can't seem to verify if these poems were parts of trade scripts tho...

@p.mrtynjy

6 ай бұрын

​@@lcmiracleZiusudra, Enki and Enlil's story. Adapa goes to heaven,aboard the south wind, is instructed not to eat heavenly food water etc

Im just a dude who likes to learn. In ogden utah. Im from and grew in bryce and zion national parks. All the native american history and things in the ground keeps me curious about human history. This channel is really fun and i appreciate it. Thanks dude.

Great video. The Sumerian King List is such an underrated piece of history. Subscribed!

Regarding "The Great Flood", the area of southern Mesopotamia flooded quite frequently. Matter of fact, the Persian Gulf ran much further inland into that region, reaching Eridu, Uruk, etc. Unlike modern times, that region was also very marshy.

@WitherFang

Жыл бұрын

That would've been a paradise to behold.

@dannyboywhaa3146

Жыл бұрын

Not called ‘Marsh Arabs’ for nothing! 👍

@arifahmedkhan9999

Жыл бұрын

No, the great civilisations always flooded and hence it isn't referring to that. Indus Valley and Nile also flooded but even the vedic scriptures talk about the floods so do the Bible, Quran and other, mythological stories too. So unlike what people claim that the flood is ice age and what not but I'd say, it's from a time when humanity hadn't really spread away from each other and when they spread apart they still passed down the information of this great flood to their descendants but by exaggerations. I for one as a muslim 100% think it was real as Names like Noah, Nuh and Nu(Ma'nu or Mahanu, meaning great nu) are way too similar to just be a coincidence. Its probably of a time when most of humanity was much smaller and like the scriptures say, the great flood.

@ne0nmancer

Жыл бұрын

@@arifahmedkhan9999 I recommend a book called "The Lost World of the Flood" by John Walton, he has a very good theory about the similarities between the flood myths of the Ancient Near East.

@ShiNooBi1986

Жыл бұрын

@@ne0nmancer ty

Excellent topic. Certainly helps demystify the somewhat controversy of the length of the dynasties. Maybe do one on the Egyptian kings list: the Turin kings list, Matheo’s and any others. Was Osiris a living king that became mythical? Was his first rule to his subjects: you must stop eating each other??? Really Nice opening sequence too.

@jamesbradenolin5168

7 ай бұрын

How are you. I don't eat them physically

What a fantastic opportunity for us to learn how fascinating those blocks of stone that most people quickly walk by in the museum really are!

Enjoyed this one. Especially the reading of the list in important authoritative ancient voice!

Dr Collins is exceptionally gracious and gives great answers.

Great video, love the format! So interesting to see how much we can learn from actual artefacts. Excellently presented between what is written, information from an expert and views on what we can infer from what is there and the context... love it!

Really like this form of presentation and the genuine research behind it. Would love to see something similar with Egyptian hieroglyphs. Thx Dr. David.

Excellent video as always Dr. Miano. What a fascinating piece.

Love it... would be great to see more videos like this focusing in on specific artifacts.

That intro sequence was sick

Excellent idea. I enjoyed the video and look forward to learn from more ancient artifacts

Thanks for making this video!

Great interview. Many thanks.

The fact you were able to contact this man for a podcast is much respected I know it took Time in a lot of work to make that happen, you are much appreciate it brother and we need people like you to continue to do your work it is not overlooked and there’s need it for the next individual to spark the minds of the next generations

Amazing work

Amazing! Unique content. An educational point of view you are presenting here. Thank you!

Fenomenal video. Thanks

This is a great episode!

Love this....more, please!

Amazing! More like this, please!

This was a really excellent video: visuals, audio and content. --One of-- No, THE best of yours I've seen so far. {:-:-:}

@xaayer

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen your comments around and i have to ask, what is that signature you put at the bottom?

@ansfridaeyowulfsdottir8095

2 жыл бұрын

@@xaayer It started as a joke, but now it's habit. I have to delete it from e-mails. It's meant to be a sleeping Zylon face. When he is OMG! he is {:o:O:} and when he is shocked, or deafened by his headphones he's {:O:O:} {:-:-:}

Helped me A LOT. Thanks.

Great guest..... great video. Thanks for all the work.

Thanks for this fascinating story, full of facts and interesting details. I always learn something from your very accessible videos.

I love this video. I've been reading up a lot about the Sumerian King's List, I even brainstormed with ChatGPT in preparation for a short video I want to record. This video is the best one I've seen on the topic yet

Yes yes yes. So great. Thanks so much for the video

Thanks for that. Very interesting, Sumer has always fascinated me.

An amazing relic indeed, thanks so much!

A great video and great interview!

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@AMcAFaves

2 жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity Thanks for all the work you do.

Thank you!! Great to learn much about the "Sumerian King list" ❤❤

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!

Yes. More videos like this, please.

This is incredible, Thank you!

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear you enjoyed it!

Thanks for asking so many questions you definitely know the answer to for us laypeople

This was one of the most informative vidcasts of ancient summaria that I have experienced. We finally understand from Dr Collins that what the cunniform texts are telling us has nothing to do with historical facts. This completely changes my mindset on this fascinating part of human history. But now there is only one problem: what really went on back then? Professor Miano... heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!

Delightful

Excellent interview - all the right questions, and let the guy talk without jumping in.

This is amazing

Thank you professor

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

Excellently explained.👏👏👏

For some reason I have always imagined that prism being larger. Maybe because it’s always shown in such close up. The fact that it’s so small makes it that more interesting to me.

@comsubpac

5 ай бұрын

The same happened to me with the Rosette Stone.

I apologize for the confusion. The claim that the Weld-Blundell Prism states that the Sumerian King's List goes back 240,000 years is not accurate. The Weld-Blundell Prism is a cuneiform tablet that contains a version of the Sumerian King's List, which is a historical document listing the rulers of Sumerian city-states. The Sumerian King's List does contain some legendary and mythological elements, including long reigns of the kings. However, the earliest kings listed in the Sumerian King's List are generally believed to have existed around 2900 to 2800 BCE. The notion that it dates back 240,000 years is not supported by historical evidence or mainstream scholarship. It is important to be critical of claims and verify information through credible sources. Conspiracy theories often involve alternative interpretations of historical events or the promotion of unfounded ideas. It is advisable to rely on reputable sources and expert consensus when evaluating such claims.

Cool!

Get Irving Finkel on your show and I'll love you forever!

A great presentation, much appreciated on this early winter morn. Brought back fond memories of reading transliterations... here is one such oldie but goodie: "The borders of Nibru form a great net, within which the ḫurin eagle spreads wide its talons. The evil or wicked man does not escape its grasp. In this city endowed with steadfastness, for which righteousness and justice have been made a lasting possession, and which is clothed (?) in pure clothing on the quay, the younger brother honours the older brother and treats him with human dignity; people pay attention to a father's word and reap the benefits; the child behaves humbly and modestly towards his mother and attains a ripe old age". source: Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature, Oxford. enjoy.

This is really cool! A great idea for a series, not-so-factual artifacts!

0:32 Just think, this was the equivalent of our data pads. And for them, it was modern times too. That stone tablet literally was technology!

Yay, a new series. But Dr. Miano, please pace yourself so you don't get burnt out and such.

Hello David, Nice work. One question i would ask to the curator is who were the readers of those lists. It look like an attempt to make « un roman national » a gathering story to unite scattered entities, but who can read it.

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of these documents were read aloud to people, because most couldn't read. But it's a good question.

It's interesting to listen to both Dr. Collins and Dr. Miano when they speak in regards to this, or any other archeological or historical find. Every phrase is carefully crafted to convey exactly what they know, as separate from what they suspect, or what they can surmise, based on peripheral, or contextual information. Compare that to the various "experts" in alternative history who make very general, sweeping claims based on very little real information.

I just subscribed with all notifications, liked, commented, watched whole thing, enjoyed it, shared it, etc. Some ancient kings ruled for 10,000+ years. 🙂

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Definitely a much bigger fan of this type of video than like the Which came First videos. Good stuff.

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

Variety is the spice of life.

I've watched this several times, with much enjoyment. The colorful fantasy of some listings is marvelous entertainment! On most lists, Gilgamesh is placed high. The famous epic has generated much interest and speculation. Would you please tell us what--if anything--is known about the historical Gilgamesh?

Antediluvian rulers had antesemetic names. However, there is a small group of pre-Sargonic rulers in the SKL whose names have been attested in Early Dynastic inscriptions.This group consists of seven rulers: Enmebaragesi, Gilgamesh, Mesannepada, Meskiagnun, Elulu, Enshakushanna and Lugal-zage-si

This episode ruled.

Slightly off-topic: I was floating in bubble bath thinking about how Sumerians count, and how they like base 12 for some things. Count each joint on the main fingers (minus thumb) and you get 12 for each hand. I think i have hear that we get day broken into 12-hour segments, and 12 months from Sumerians. However, if thumb is included, there's 14, and 2 hands = a complete moon cycle ... and then each hour broken into 60 minutes, is base 5 (5 x 12 = 60)? Anyway, I am curious a little bit about how Sumerians use numbers, and was wonder if you can rcommend any good online sources to help understand this better? Thank you! :)

The date of the flood is believed to be approximately 2807 BCE. There is a suggestion that it occurred when the coma of a comet struck the Indian Ocean at a speed of at least 100 000 miles per hour. Through extensive research on the Burckle crater it is believed that the diameter of the coma of the comet was approx 5 miles and that it was made of 99 percent metal. This caused the earth to shudder and every natural disaster followed. Legends from all over the world report multiple mega tsunamis, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, geysers and even hydrothermal explosions. The initial devastation was so large, followed by the inevitable nuclear winter that even if the Biblical account of no one surviving except the people on the ark was not true that such devastation would have meant the demise of at least 50 percent of the global population. In my belief system this claim was very significant to me. I was determined to find out one way or another if the date of 2807 BCE could possibly be a correct approximation. So I enlisted the help of several sources. I used The Sumarian Kings list, The Egyptian Kings list and also the Vedic script giving the family tree right back to what they believe is the beginning of mankind. I drew up tables for each list in order to be able to try to compare the timelines for various rulers and personalities. To explore the possibility that the given date of the impact being the correct date for the flood I have taken the very detailed passages in Genesis in the Torah and Old Testament to compile the family tree of the great patriarchs from Adam (peace be upon him) to Joseph (peace be upon him). once I had all the basic information with the help of tables using the information and the date given I was able to project a basic estimated date for the various generations in the family tree. However, I found that it was important to firstly convert the quantity of years given for each persons lifespan from Samarian lunar years to Gregorian years because all lists were recorded by the historians in Gregorian years. Once I had done this and had a relatively correct date for each persons birth and death I put this information into a table which included the Samarian kings list and the Egyptian kings list. I was able to at that time come to the conclusion that Joseph's (peace be upon him) Timeline coincided with that of Pharaoh Peppi II also known as Neferkara. Recent archaeology has proven that the Great Drought did in fact happen during the reign of Peppi II. I personally believe that this drought which happened in several areas of the world at that time could have been caused by the earth settling after the very traumatic flood which had globally affected most if the world's terrains. I also noted that Nimrod's timeline coincided with that of Gilgamesh. In the ancient tales of the Indian people. Ramachandra"s brother's mother was angry because her husband promised her that his brother was going to be king after his father. Ramachandra gave up the throne for a number of years and came back to the throne but missing his wife Sita he left again and found that she had had twin sons. Although the kings list called him Dimizud and his brother Gilgamesh in fact this succession is mirrored in the Samarian kings list. The Torah calls the twins of Ramah the brother of Nimrod, Deban and Sheba the Indians know them as Cas and Luv. When you put the timelines between the Samarian kings list and the Egyptian kings list next to each other another similarity is found. Prior to the flood both lists show gods as their kings and the date for the event of the flood is reflected in more or less the same time as the date given for the comets impact. Also the death of Lord Krishna and his brother Lord Bahram happened on the same day when they were washed away by water and drowned. Legends say that Dwarka was hit by huge waves and disappeared in 5 minutes. Maybe this happened when the initial Mega Tsunsmi caused by the impact swept through the area. There are also legends of reentry flaming rocks hitting Asaam just after this flood and the water reaching as high as the Tibetan plateau. I have watched many historical documentaries and I am very impressed with how many times findings reflect things which would coincide with these dates. For example the newly projected dates for the construction of Stone Henge and who did it. The movement of people from the area of the steppes which roughly coincide with the account of the ark resting on either mount Sinai or Mount Judi. And the list goes on. The Epic of Gilgamesh is also very interesting. If Gilgamesh is indeed Nimrod then he would have heard first hand accounts about it from his family. Maybe Noah (peace be upon him) did live in Surupak. This is food for thought. The name Nimrod actually means rebel. For him to compose a story where other gods and not the God of Noah (peace be upon him) is used would reflect the origin for this coined name. I find this information more exciting than any Block Buster movie. Thank you for your wonderful documentaries.

I ❤ history

i loved this video very much & as an intro to ur channel, i'm agog to return keep it up my guy, subbed

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

Like for more artifacts videos 👍🤓

Will you do a video on the subject of the anunna gods please? Do a de bunking video. There is loads of reels and KZread videos of the “ anunnaki “

I have an interesting fact about cuneiform text. If you look at the script you will see random blank spaces mid-sentence or so. This is because the scribes didn't want to leave a blank a space at the end of a line if they thought they couldn't fit it all in. That comes from Dr Irving Finkel at the British museum who I am sure Dr Collins knows well. Davd, I still upset with you about the Randall Carlson thing, but I forgive you and hope we can all move forward in a positive way 😉

Great video and interview. In your opinion, did the Sumerians originate locally in the marshes of what's now southern Iraq, or did they originate further south somewhere in what's now the Persian Gulf region and then migrate into southern Mesopotamia to escape flooding? (If I recall correctly, the oldest Sumerian cities like Eridu are in the south, which lends some weight to the latter idea.) Or do you see a different origin altogether, like North Africa, the Indus, or the Caucasus? I imagine that the fact that their language is an isolate makes their geographical origin more difficult to place.

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

It's a good question. We don't really know for sure where they came from or even when they got there.

@Michael_De_Santa-Unofficial

2 жыл бұрын

@portable-cimbora Nimrod wasn't a real person. Gog and Magog also did not exist. Also, Neanderthals were long gone by the time the Sumerians emerged from their ancestors.

@anthonymarlowe6986

Жыл бұрын

@portable-cimbora No great flood we had a ice age on earth lasted for 2.6 million years and ended 10.000 thousands years ago BCE. Started to thawed out this took thousands of years city's would be forever flooded buried beneath the sea l grow up in the black churches in the early 70's then forced to be JW. Preacher would always skip never talks about the ice age or the dinosaurs this part of the earth history. Preacher never talk about just ignore it like it never happened. When you see any Preacher on TV in churches never ever speak about the dinosaurs or the ice age. Yet believe in a Jewish imaginary been who never existed and supertious claims that never happened evil genocidal racist maniac from the pagan zionist bible. Imaginary been never ever speak for itself but only in people heads always in there's heads.

25mins talking about 1 artifact?! I'm in heaven 🥰

@mnomadvfx

2 жыл бұрын

Considering the number of pseudo archaeology nuts using it as a smoking gun for their whacky 'annunacki = everything' theories then I'd say this is a pretty important thing to cover given his previous videos debunking common pseudo archaeology tripe.

@andreaarchaeology

2 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx 💯👍🏻

@andreaarchaeology

2 жыл бұрын

@@mnomadvfx (I'm not sure if you read my entire comment 😊 I'm a huge fan/supporter of Dr. Miano 😁)

In berlin germany I lived 50 meters away from the Museum of prehistory and there was a quite amazing artefact and, as some suggest, the first computing device, one of the Druid hats. Your opinion on it ?

@deusexludicro

Жыл бұрын

The Golden Hat in the Neues Museum on Museuminsel? Unsure if it was druids, I think it might be Bronze Age rather than Celtic, but a really awesome artefact.

@soerenraudonis

Жыл бұрын

@@deusexludicro no, in the little museum in the palace garden in Charlottenburg

@deusexludicro

Жыл бұрын

@@soerenraudonis oh very cool. Hadn't heard of this one! Thanks for the information :)

Is there any relationship between the Great Flood (and ?coincidently? the date of the construction of this version of the King's List attributed to sin-Magir) referenced at approximately 1800 BCE and the Bronze Age Collapse (possibly) dated 1300 BCE? Possibly conflated...?

Good video. Your guest indulged in some dubious speculation about the motivations of the Summarian's but that is what people do, even historians. I do think it's an amusing dodge to say that the English buyer just happened upon a looting and decided to make a few purchases. No doubt he was on his way to the Casino.

Okay, I admit it: I thought the Kings List artifacts were at least 3 or 4 feet tall. The quantity and quality of the inscription is amazing. It was probably old-hat to the scribe.

Telomerase, also called terminal transferase, is a ribonucleoprotein that adds a species-dependent telomere repeat sequence to the 3' end of telomeres.

So many good lessons in this video: motivations behind contemporary collection techniques, problems with inexact-statement survivability (as in the pros and cons of mining from personal-POV trees in genealogy), let alone one of the many problems with wikipedia (although the world is still better with it than without it, so I still say yay), or your own 'fishing' (john 8:7, me: ouch!) for click-bait in asking about The Flood Date (haha, 'with' you, hopefully not and not meant to be 'at', even as I fall for the self-same trap re your Mahabharata War video title). Question: Is the "tribe aging list interpretation" of the pedigree (of David or Jesus or both, by testament, I forget which) in Asimov's Study Bible worthy of mention here? He covers many of the same issues I mentioned here there, and in spite of the two highly-charged apriori-strikes against mention of it (scifi author, and bible studies vs history), it may also be of interest to you. I haven't first checked your back-titles, ahead of this, alas, but welcome a pointer if already covered. Just a keep-up-the-great-work kudos to you... Cheers!

That was Excellent, Just love the Sumerian history. Do you consider Zachariah Stichin's work accurate with history? Thanks for sharing!

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! No, I do not.

@joearchuleta7538

2 жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity I don't understand why so many do! Thanks for sharing and have a great weekend!

How do archaeologists translate ancient languages? Do is require comparison materials like the rosetta stone or are their other methods?

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

My next full-length video will be talking about that, so stay tuned!

@commissarchenkov4257

2 жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity awesome, can't wait.

@welcometonebalia

2 жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity Oh, great!

yay!!!

Sumer is my favorite.There is this unsubstantiated belief in we south Indians(dravidas)that we are (some how) descendents of sumerians or Elamites. This modern mythology is created by some Tamil scholars. Thank you for this wonderful video.

@gangadharhiremath7306

2 жыл бұрын

@portable-cimbora Even dialect continuum is not an established fact between the elamite language and the Dravidian languages. That is why I said that the so called link btn Sumer/Elamite and Dravidian is more of a created myth at this stage.

@gangadharhiremath7306

2 жыл бұрын

@portable-cimbora sir, Can you get the details of the papers or articles or research book published on this specific topic?Any name of the linguistic authority and his writings about these connections?If they are logical and conclusive,I would be truly happy.

@gangadharhiremath7306

2 жыл бұрын

@portable-cimbora I am Kannadiga and Kannada is a sister language of Tamil.I know the language politics of Tamils closely.Many Tamil writers( so called scholars)on the issue of Tamil antiquity are plain propagandists.I am a proud Dravida but can't accept falsehood and propaganda based on Dravidian pride. I don't know Sadashivam. Kumari kandam and Lemuria is a plain bunkum myth.

@gangadharhiremath7306

2 жыл бұрын

@portable-cimbora Thank you.Not worth discussing linguistics with you.

@anadventfollower1181

2 жыл бұрын

Yet you probably believe sanskrit is the 'oldest', and the 'mother', of all languages... Tamil came before sanskrit, before kannada, before any of these so called languages in Bharatham. The Tamil now is drastically different compared to Ancient Tamil (obviously) which you can correlate with Sumerian, and even ancient Hebrew. In fact, sanskrit is Ancient Tamil mixed with ancient persian(may be avastram[even that may be a prototype mixed with Ancient Tamil]) with what ever other language they brought a long. The ones who brought over these languages and eventually formulated sanskrit are nomadic. Pali was another variant that actually derives from Ancient Tamil and the tongue of the native tribes of the North-East in Bharatham. You should be ashamed for denying such a link, an absolute disgrace to Dravidians.

That narration voice 😅😂

Also, numbers had symbolic and magical properties and so sometimes lengths of reigns or lifetimes could be based on multiples of such numbers. I don’t know about Sumer in particular. 💕🐝

@elialit123

Ай бұрын

The closest way to decipher those numbers, which I found most logical, would be dividing the old kings reign by 360. That would give you around 80-120 years. Perhaps it's also a lineage thing, where the father would name his son the same name and through 3-4 generations they would rule under 1 name. Why 360? Well, it's not just close to our 365 days, it's the opposite. Our year is influenced by what they used. Their counting system was 12 by 5 = 60. 12- 4 fingers on one hand, each finger divided into the 3 sections as you can see on your hand 5 - the five fingers on the other hand. Hence, 12 hours in a day, of 60 mins of 60 seconds. 3600 seconds in an hour. 30 days of the lunar "year", 12 "years" in our years. 360 days in a year.

It's like we can learn just about as much about scribes as the kings. And of course the culture.

I have honestly never thought about what the Sumerian scribed did to keep the clay moist whilst they went on a lunch break!

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What do the 5000 cuniform tablets record? What stories and insights do they tell? The ancient media of clay tablets is interesting but the message hopefully is even more valuable.

Very interesting, thanks. Those artifacts and old texts describing the mythical origins of actual historical figures, with a political purpose, are always fascinating to me. I couldn't help but think of the Kojiki there (mythical god-emperors reigning for centuries and then more human characters with more realistic dates, legitimization of the current emperor, "forgotten" rulers and so on), but I guess this would apply to most old narratives of the sort, including the Old Testament after all, and they are unsurprisingly numerous (and sometime old but not that old, it made me think also of the Trojan legend of the Franks, and there are a number of those across Europe). On a completely unrelated subject, but mentionning the Kojiki brought me there, I'd be very interested in seeing a video of yours about the Kofun, which are truly fascinating to me. But maybe this is too far from your field, I don't know... Anyway, thanks as always for your great channel.

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

I certainly could! The Kofun period is ancient enough.

@welcometonebalia

2 жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity Great!

@TheDanEdwards

2 жыл бұрын

​@@WorldofAntiquity I lived not far from the largest and most mysterious Kofun in Japan. What struck me most is how the contemporary Japanese are so reticent to excavate these Kofuns. The Kofuns are fascinating and certainly tell us something about the connections of ancient Korea and Japan.

Dr. Miano , is there any connection between the ancient city of Thebes Greece and Thebes of North Africa? How can there be two cities of the same name relatively close to each other? The birth date of Thebes Greece is know, but what of North Africa’s Thebes?

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

We commonly use the Greek names for Egyptian cities, which is a holdover from the period when the Greek ruled Egypt. So yes, there is a connection.

@jjw56

2 жыл бұрын

@@WorldofAntiquity Oh wow, that’s right. Do you know what Africans would have called Thebes? Ethiopia was the Greek name for what was called Abyssinia.

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

@@jjw56 The Egyptian name for Thebes was Waset.

@johnbyrnes7912

Жыл бұрын

​@@WorldofAntiquity curious ? Did in renaming the new Thebes were the Macedonian rulers assuaging any guilt over that great and shameful event which happened to all but Pindar's home! A common horror in those days like Corinth and Carthage I know but such a shame that adds to our generation's ignorance of life and history! 🤡

@johnbyrnes7912

Жыл бұрын

​@@WorldofAntiquity curious ? Did in renaming the new Thebes were the Macedonian rulers assuaging any guilt over that great and shameful event which happened to all but Pindar's home! A common horror in those days like Corinth and Carthage I know but such a shame that adds to our generation's ignorance of life and history! 🤡

This is James. Real Deal

Here I am again. The algorithm decided I'd be watching all your videos if I want to or not. Lucky for me, I don't even mind. 😂💖

Many (though not all) of the exaggerated reigns are multiples of either 60 or 100 (often both)...but there are enough exceptions that "all the numbers before a certain point got multiplied" seems unlikely.

Has this cuneiform been dated? By whom, which museum, and names, and where was this kings list found? And are there any archeological finds, bones or graves, dug up or excavated, of any of the kings on this list?

When it's said "other" historical records prove inaccuracies of such a high profile artifact. This should be backed up with power points on the spot, otherwise we're proclaiming.

Excellent content, thank you for that! An irrelevant question, if you don't mind of course.. I am a bit bothered by the quality of Mesopotamian art (especially bronze age ones) compared to the Egyptians. I always feel like they were not on a similar level,.. Am I just feeling that, or is it true? and if it is true, why do you think that this is the case? especially that we know that both civilisations were well aware of each other...

@WorldofAntiquity

2 жыл бұрын

My impression is that they are not they far off from each other. I think the climate of Egypt lent itself better to preservation.

I think maybe instead of years maybe the numbers mean like how many people they ruled over like a cenus or something at the parts were they are really long.

Could there have been a unified kingdom with one ruler? What you are describing seems to be something like mayors of cities, or city states? Maybe they used the largest city state in the region when the ruler was inscribed? It's possible that if a 'king' was successful, that an honorarium was ascribed to the 'king'. I wonder if it is referring to the type of kingdom established. In other words, the 'kingdom' of George Washington would have been established for 245 years and counting?

Loved it. However, feel the text wasn’t hand carved into damp clay. Normally propaganda is designed to reach the masses. Logically the text would have been hand carved into four separate timbers planks and pressed to the wet clay prism. They probably created hundreds of identical prism and we found one that survived the ravages of time.

I would like to know about ownership of lands and its system of succession to next generation. Is it father to son or mother to daughter among in common people? And was they used lunar year as their duration of kings reign? One more doubt, is any connection of yamnaya peoples migration to middle east trigger the natives point of view on them became the creation of gods? My wild guess 🙏

Doesn't the said kings list contain both short and long lengths of reign making it harder to refute the math that's in question. A shar is 3600 yrs and year is a year . Doesn't it attribute shars & years to list lengths of reign. Which then within the same text would make it intentional to state thousands of years reigns vs decades long reigns?

The great question is how the Sumerians even knew about the great flood.