The Stylish Art of Photography
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What is style and what is art in photography? I don't have the answers but I do have some views! This is a brief exploration of my feelings about photography when done for its own sake, rather than done to earn a living, as I have practised it all my working life.
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The photograph of a blind boy illustrates that of the top ten attributes required to make a great photograph, the model of camera is eleventh. Almost any camera could have got that shot, but only one photographer did.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
A great observation and my own feeling exactly.
A David Thorpe day is always a good day! Great insight and inspiration.😊📷
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
:-)
@fredio54
3 жыл бұрын
Alas, those days are gone. :-( 8.5% of the people that watched this video stopped to give it a thumbs up, 0.03% did the opposite, 91.47% should have stopped to give it a thumbs up. RIP, David.
@joec.1030
3 жыл бұрын
@@fredio54 I’m so very sad this morning..😪
@fredio54
3 жыл бұрын
@@joec.1030 I spent about an hour crying. Took me completely by surprise and hurt like we'd been friends for years. That's true engagement, as YT calls it, interacting with those in the comments on a personal and detailed basis, almost every time. He was a star and I'll miss him a lot. RIP.
Thank God - a new video from you - I was having withdrawal.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Like all good drugs, Martha, I am better taken in moderation :-)
Essential viewing! And so typical of David's modest manner - to enlighten, educate and amuse us by his brilliant reviews for years... but not use this space as a platform for his own artistic accomplishments. Terrific pictures, David! Thanks so much for sharing them and your insights!
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Anthony. Glad you liked it.
Well said. Your photography and your camera reviews are like poetry. This should inspire us all to be more expressive in our work.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enkoyed it and thank you, Jim.
Thank you for making me think. Great stuff as usual. I appreciate ALL your videos.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Tom.
Thank you for making me pause and reflect, inspirational.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to do so, Derek, thank you.
Thank you for this video. Your name was familiar to me but, it was not until I searched for support of my new Lumix GX9 that I landed on your KZread page. So, this short video on the art of photography is exactly what I needed to see. I had to scroll past a number of equipment review videos to get to your fabulous "A Look at Portraiture, Naturally." I am not criticizing you for reviewing equipment. It is a trend among successful KZread photo-related sites to have lots of equipment reviews, and few videos on the "meat" of photography. D Griff Gallery does a good job of remaining focused on landscape photography. But thank YOU for your insight into your stylish art of photography. I look forward to viewing more of your methods in the art of photography.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, David. It's the equipment reviews that get the bulk of the viewers but I like to break them up with more photography based posts. I have plenty of ideas, just getting round to doing them!
Excellent, thank you David.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
Brilliant insights again David!, keep posting these thoughts of yours, you are inspirational mate!😎👍🇦🇺
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
My head is swelling at this very moment :-) Thanks, Stephen!
Yes! A new David Thorpe!
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
:-)
Stylish,thought provoking and succinct. Many thanks David...your ideas linger long after viewing your film.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear, Jeff, thanks!
Loved it as always, learnt a lot, enjoyed it, and as David said a long time ago,... fantastic value for money!
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, William, great to hear that!
I think there are 2 types of photos. Snap Shots, and something crafted by a director. Not sure what to call that. Everyone can take a snap shot, and snap shots can have meaning to the person who took it, but the director puts intention into the image. That is art.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Nicely put, Chris.
A most thoughtful and perceptive meditation on photography.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Philip.
I always enjoy your perspective. Thank you for the video.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kent.
Absolutely first rate and I would love to see more of your photography. You do indeed have a noticeable style and one that gives much pleasure in the viewing. This philosophical introduction can only be a taster of what should be a wider exploration of the subject and one which you discuss so well and so eloquently. I hope this is not your only discussion of the "art of photography." There are a couple of points on which I probably differ but I need to watch this again - when I have not had a drink - before commenting. Brilliant work, if all too brief. Thank you.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, Paul. All my points are open to discussion and my mind to changing!
Art is the evidence of delight in one's self.
Thanks, you give reason to continue making your own personal pictures as best as you can !!!
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that the idea, John and that way lies the most satisfaction.
Great video, David and thought provoking too. Good to see you back. :-)
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kennt.
Thanks for sharing your vision, David
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
It's a pleasure to do so. Simon, especially when I get such appreciative reactions!
This was woth waiting for. You got me thinking! Thanks!
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John. I don't have any more of a handle on these things than anyone else but I really enjoy sitting down and organising my thoughts.
I can only concur with what you've expressed here. It took me a very long time to reach those same thoughts, but I was a much happier image maker once I did. Oh, and I love the photographs you've shown here; you really do have a wonderful style and terrific eye to capture our world with. Thanks for sharing.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Nice of you to say so, Pat, thanks.
Bravo David, btw from the work of yours that you have shared here over the years I have always considered you a lot more than photo journalist.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
That's nice - thank you!
I hardly ever comment on youtube videos, yet I've been following your videos David since I started using m43 back in 2012 (still do in 2019) as I love your eloquence and simple approach to your reviews so different to all the others regardless of the format in question. However, I loved this new video on your thoughts of Photography as art/medium/format and not a camera review. It does bother me though that it has and will have less 'clicks' than your gear review videos so I just wanted to point out that I would love to see more of this type of videos on your thoughts behind your craft and photography in general, regardless of the amount of clicks you will get. There's a few of us out there that still love the medium not just the tool.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for those much appreciated comments, Chris. I will keep in mind your sentiments as I really do enjoy making general photography videos.
Thank you for reminding me why I follow your channel. Brilliant stuff, sir.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Great to hear and appreciated - thanks!
Being moved by what you see and then wanting to see it again and share it by way of a photograph is for me beautiful art. This video is splendid and good. Here's to your art and its delivery be it sight sound or both, congratulations on all your videos, I go back to them often thank you and cheers.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
There are many reasons that I make these videos and appreciation like yours is a major one of them. Thanks, Michael.
@michaelhawkins1173
5 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT you are very welcome David. Your work does set a standard. Subject matter, narrative nailed every time.
Brillant! Non-verbal poetry is the Art of our Craft!
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
Top notch stuff, as always.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
You're the only youtuber whom I've watched, and enjoyed, all the videos uploaded. I notice your voice is getting ever softer. Hope you're keeping healthy and keep making these videos. Cheers
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not keeping so healthy but I intend to keep on with the videos, Amirul. Thanks for your kind words.
Spot on! Thanks David
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Malcolm.
This is like sitting down to read the good editorials on the paper... thanks.... great narrator voice also...
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Alejandro.
Great as usual.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
Five stars, David.
@DavidThorpeMFT
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kit.
Brilliant take!
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks YoBu - glad you liked it.
Well put and well said...
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
:-)
So it’s 4:45 am as I “listen” to David’s video, on my way to work to Lincoln Nebraska. Quite the coincidence. I enjoy David’s perspective.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! That quote was from The Evening News - gone now presumably. Glad you found the video interesting.
@TopGarageTV
5 жыл бұрын
Its been awhile, so I had to do a search. The evening paper, Lincoln Journal, merged with the Lincoln Star in 1995. It was hard to see it go. In pre internet days, you could get the news that happened during the day instead of waiting till the morning. If I may ask, how did you come across that paper, 4300+ miles away?
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
@@TopGarageTV I knew the quote about the camera not lying but influential as it has been I never saw (having been a news photographer) how anyone could really believe that. So i did a bit of research and got the full quote and then looked around some more to find that it was attributed to the editor of The Evening News, Lincoln, Nebraska who obviously knew his photographers well enough to know that the camera can be used and usually is, to give an impression of an event that he or she wants you have. Beside the point, really but my first job on a major UK publication was on The Evening news - but the London one.
Well said. Thank you for that.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jeff, glad you enjoyed it.
Good video. I find the blurred reflections (used when shots don't fill the screen) distracting. I realise it may still be the best solution to the problem...
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
I'm not overkeen myself but a black or even coloured band looks clumsy and ugly. Where possible I crop to 16:9 but try as I do, I don't find I'm able to see things in that aspect ratio. Glad you liked the video.
@sdrtcacgnrjrc
5 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT yes, liked the video *and* your photos all the best
Thanks for posting
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Mark.
Highly interesting.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so, Jon, thank you.
Superb video. Regards Ulf
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Ulf, glad you liked it.
Great stuff :)
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Nuno!
4:58 is absolutely stunning with the two jet streams and the two people and the two rows of cars. The symmetry is amazing
@clintjohnson2460
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought ....I have seen some of these shots from David's previous posts... But that one was new (to me) and left an impression on me as well...
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
I love that type of symmetry and the awkwardness of the two people in opposition to the symmetry who serve to underline it. It's a product of having a camera around most of the time. That shot was taken after parking at a car boot sale and on my way to the sale area.
👍
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
:-)
The painter Ronald Bloore said, "the camera doesn't lie, but it doesn't tell the truth either." And I'm afraid, David, I agree. Too much of what the camera produces is out of the would-be artist's control for the result to be Fine Art. I say this as a photographer who worked for the said painter for 20 years, someone who has artworks adorning the walls of his house instead of photos because he knows the difference - not from thinking about it but from living with it and actually experiencing it. Yes, I know I'm gonna stir a lot of hate for saying this. I always have and Bloore did too. A picture from a little mechanical box will never have in it what a drawing by an eight year-old does, let alone a drawing or assemblage by an artist like Hockney does.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Hank - you are treating photography as a graphic art which is not how I see it. Photography is the art of observation, more akin to a novelist or a poet. If you look at Henri- Cartier-Bresson's work you are seeing his world and it is a very different world to the one you or I see. Take a look at a photograph called Blind Boy by Charles Harbutt. It is not something anyone would paint, too trivial a moment but frozen as it is, you are given a - jolting - insight into his life and feelings. If that's not what art is for, I don't know what it is. It's shame that photography has to be demeaned with a "little mechanical box" phrase. For Bloore to be good does not require photography to be bad. For myself, I have no great talent but even if I did, the notion of making 'fine art' would abhorrent to me. I imagine such a cosy, comfortable middle class attitude to art would be that last thing that any accomplished artist from Caravaggio to Hockney would - well they'd spit fire at the thought. That quote, interestingly it derives from a Lincoln Nebraska newspaper editor. Someone remarked to him that the camera shows things as they are. He observed that, while the camera does not lie, the photographer can. I'm a bit surprised that you expect hate for saying what you do. I've read and heard many, many such discussions between eminent artists and photographers and never come across hatred. Surely two people can hold contrary opinions on subjects which ultimately boil down to opinion? I have no interest in what you choose to hang on your wall and have no wish to force you to put photographs there instead. I'd assume that you have no mission to make me stop taking pictures or getting my videos banned.
Word!
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
:-)
There is a fundamental difference between taking the shot, and making the shot, and this what differentiates artists from amatures in photography, I think
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. Photography is viewed by so many as being a mechanical thing but some people are capable of making a shot, as you say. It;s just so damn hard to put the difference into words!
I like the picture at 2:14 but I like it even more minus the foliage.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I tried cropping it out and erasing it in Photoshop but felt it lost more than it gained. Sometimes pictures can look too perfect and sanitised!
@canturgan
5 жыл бұрын
@@DavidThorpeMFT The leaves impinging on the right give me the itch that needs scratching more than the overhanging branches.
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
@@canturgan For my eyes, if I were to take those away, the overhead leaves take more attention. But i general I prefer to leave pictures unaltered apart from cropping and a tweak to levels if necessary.
Well said (y)
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Lance.
Yes
@DavidThorpeMFT
5 жыл бұрын
That is what I would call a positive comment :-) Thanks!
@gerardg1950
4 жыл бұрын
TBH I forgot to add an exlamation mark :)
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
@@gerardg1950 Goes to show that anyone who feels that grammar isn't important should think again. All the best!
Thankfully, you don't spam with uploads; or you would have turned into Jarred Pollin. I don't hesitate to watch your vids when you upload.
@DavidThorpeMFT
4 жыл бұрын
I'd not heard of that guy. I wonder if he ever uses any of the gear? Wild presentation and he uses company promo shots for illustration. Hmmmmn! Mind you, he's got over 1m subscribers, so who am I to feel superior? 😮
The sound of this video is really low.
@DavidThorpeMFT
3 жыл бұрын
It sounds OK to me but sound really is the hardest part of KZread disciplines.