Manon Main Tech: The left, right, and up faces (High/bored, High/smiling, Karen Laugh) all combo directly into down (Falling Asleep).

@DrSwazz

10 ай бұрын

At the end of the day, even Manon sleeps

@Reitsuchi

10 ай бұрын

Hold right and mash up for instant overhead eyebrow wiggles.

@trippersigs2248

9 ай бұрын

We call that the ojou-sama laugh. I ever hear you call it the Karen laugh again I'm coming for those kneecaps

@21Handguns

8 ай бұрын

@@trippersigs2248 it's called Karin laugh because thats the most iconic thing Karin does in SF,whom its based on lmao

I dont care if shes bad, i like the silly grabs and her aesthetic

@doctordice2doctordice210

10 ай бұрын

Eh being bad in a modern fighter doesn't have the same wight as being bad in older fighters!

Sajam is going to be much more powerful this climb because of the upgrade of Manon's theme over Guile's.

@DrSwazz

10 ай бұрын

Not much of an upgrade but still an upgrade nonetheless

I appreciate your editor putting the names of all the players in the chapters

For all of Manon's flaws or whatever, I'm still having so much fun with her to drop her. Might pick up AKI as an alt, but I plan to stick with Manon for the long run. Just a few matches away from Diamond 1. I watched this stream live and it was nice watching Sajam play Manon and learning what I can improve on, etc. Great stuff!

@troubledin1742

10 ай бұрын

Same but im master with manon

@ZamirStills

10 ай бұрын

If you like the character, that’s all that matters.

@TheGameVerse

10 ай бұрын

Are you me?? Lol I too am a plat 5 Manon who plans on adding Aki as a secondary :P

@321Tdog

10 ай бұрын

Same, I said to myself "gonna main Rashid when he comes out", but I'm having too much fun with Manon! She'll keep me busy until Dudley is out probably

@thehobojarpen

10 ай бұрын

​@@TheGameVerse Haha, great minds think alike! I feel like I've seen a TON of Manon mains saying they're planning to try AKI as a 2nd character.

Thanks for uploading these videos to youtube, Sajam. I vastly prefer youtube to twitch so I am glad I get to watch all these. Appreciate it!

17:29 sajam checking chatters will always b my fav part of these videos😂

ily sajam, i really appreciate you and all the content you make. you’re a blessing 🙏😭❤️

Finally I've been waiting for this❤

Have been waiting for Saj to do Manon for so long. Stoked to learn tech and see his opinions on the character.

I feel like sometimes the player knows you just hopped on and that it’s drive impact time and they just drive impact everywhere!

I absolutely adore this character.

She's definitely a very Sajam character. Strong solid midrange, with powerful mixups tools to take risk with when you want to.

@TheCoolguymanly

10 ай бұрын

He was thinking about maining her outside of this climb for that reason, but decided against it because he just can’t get behind how bad her normals are, and no projectile. Two important things for a Sajam character.

@Nooctae

10 ай бұрын

@@TheCoolguymanly I can understand that. She's basically slightly undertuned, her normals could get a bit of recovery here and there shaved off. And playing without a projectile in a SF game is a very different affair, maybe even more in SF6 than previous ones.

this is exactly what I needed to get out of the funk i've been in for weeks trying to figure out Manon. I just have not found my groove with her. She's definitely an oddball playstyle.

Make manon ballet spin through move actually fucking work and she jumps up a tier.

Lets goo manon video

I'm on the last push to Master rank with Manon and I'm going to re-watch this religiously

I think (as a Manon player) she's ever-so slightly slept on. She's about as mid-tier as it gets, but you can beat a lot of people due to how strong her anti-airs are. Let alone 90% of the people you fight think her level 1 throw is gonna do gief ex spd damage, and will just hold up most of the time. I found her climb to be fairly easy once I focused on frame trapping and patience, instead of building medals and using command grab. Most matches I win I'm rarely above 3 medals. I just think the payoff for them isn't quite there yet.

@lolozo214

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, she's only a little undertuned. I think she'd benefit from a few more frames of fireball invincibility on her spin and some minor adjustments here and there

@chimpmasterflex

10 ай бұрын

@@lolozo214 On that note I really wish the spin just went into the follow-up on hit, in the same way ex does. Tired of trading with guile's shit lol. Another personal change I would like, is if she got the medal credit, and bonus medal damage on spin applied to the first hit. That way going into level 3 off it would pay off a little more damage-wise, but also it'd help set up her wincon. As is, outside of a huge bar dump for a kill, comboing into her level 3 almost never feels worth. You can just combo into level 2 for slightly less damage and not burn yourself out and saving a bar for reversal/follow-up kill. Could go any number of ways though.

love a good "bom" burnout loop lol

For Manons flaws she has one definitve strength. When youre better than the OP you can FEEL it. You just completly spin thier ass and they cant keep up.

I felt your struggle. Havning to think about your inputs makes it so hard to play. I just swapped to arcade stick today and I'm having a hard time for now. Gonna stick with it though as it feels intuitive despite being slower than pad and I'm going through ps4 controllers too quickly

@supersonicguru1

10 ай бұрын

My only recommendation is figure out "how you want your fingers to be placed". It seems the old school way is hitting every button with only 1-2 fingers. I use "1 finger per row of bottons". Index for light. Middle for medium. Ring for heavy, and pinky for taunt/ ex.p/k / D.I/parry

@javianbrown8627

10 ай бұрын

So far I've also assigned my fingers to specific buttons in the order of index/mid/ring/pinky for light/med/heavy/Di and the same fingers for the kicks except for light kick which I just use my thumb for so I can quickly throw. Decided to just try a new character while I'm at it because while learning as 'll try to do things I'm not capable of on the new input yet of I play Chun.

3:57 That transition was forged by the gods of editing

As a Manon player who just got to plat I've been looking forward to seeing how someone experienced learns the character

Sajam coming in with the Manon Badguy tech

I'm waiting for the video of Sajam talking about his homecoming experience with Manon.

That Sol joke right at match 3 end lmao

Sajam is such a solid player but he absolutely does not have grappler brain

Really enjoying these videos, I don't play Manon but hopefully this will give me some ideas on what to do against her! Edit: Not sure if this will get seen but for your Cammy road to master, you should call yourself "Holly Hooligan/Hooligan Holly" 😂🤣

I'm sorry, what? KEN'S buttons are STUBBY?! no character with a cr mk like that is allowed to say that.

@nickkiller-0710

10 ай бұрын

cr mk, st mk, st hp, st hk... Ken has so many good ass buttons, I swear his HK is the best punish counter in the game, thing goes from a simple poke to a beefy combo real quick At least he doesn't have a fireball... oh wait

EX Spin is invulnerable to High and Overhead attacks (I think Lows can still hit you), so when you have a Blanka or Honda that just LOVE spamming their charge move, EX Spin can pretty consistently punish it so you don't have to time anything. Plus, free Medal too :D

Wow can someone tell me why at 50:44 manon lvl 5 punish counter command throws Marisa and it does only a normal throws amount of dmg?

Boom

Shes super fun

Welcome to the Quaso arc

MANON WILL GET IT DONE

Manon, Ken, Ryu, Sim, and Jamie are all 5'9. JP's 6'3, Marissa's 6'8, Juri's 5'5, Kim's 5'6. Like they're all over the place not to mention even in the match I'm seeing right now Manon's clearly a head taller than Ken

4:35 hah, hah.. hah, hah weeeeeeeeeeeee

"I do very simple things and i play better than my opponent and i win" I'm Silver 5 Manon and that's pretty much my game plan too

Late to this, but if anybody is having trouble dealing with Blanka ball as Manon just do 236PP

I need to see you play juri xd

I feel like I'm one of the few who'd think Abel would be a sick addition to sf6 😂

@THEVIGILANTEHD

10 ай бұрын

I gotchu fam. We in this

@killroycantkill

10 ай бұрын

We can dream T_T

@Gleapgoogleplusisgone

10 ай бұрын

I'm 300% with you

@jbowens

10 ай бұрын

True, but I’d loveeee to see Fei long cone back

@joshuacopley2331

10 ай бұрын

@jbowens same man, Makoto, Abel, Fei long, C. Viper, and G are my top 5

Fellow Manon players, when you confirm a medium into drive rush crouching medium punch, back heavy punch, hit-throw, do you need to manually confirm it or is there an OS to make the drive rush come out only on hit?

@pawsouth2897

10 ай бұрын

press f, f or parry during animation, same as any cancellable move (except lights, only ff for them)

@richardmf6575

10 ай бұрын

That's not confirmable, you have to autopilot into drive rush and then confirm into combo

@Draconilian

10 ай бұрын

Basically I only use drive rush cancel on guaranteed hits, punishes and stuff. Otherwise better to do safer and meterless strings into her good knockdowns 236HK gives enough time to get dash forward light command throw on anybody on anyone

@WutTheDeuceGaming

10 ай бұрын

there is no OS.

@reisjames1

10 ай бұрын

The nice thing is that if you autopilot MP > Drive rush > cMP, if you then notice that they blocked the string, you’re now in a situation where you’re +2 on block at point blank. So you dont get your hitgrab combo, but you do suddenly have a command grab mixup situation where they have to guess as if you just hit your HP>HP vacuum target combo. So you can just run your strike throw command grab mixup anyways which is pretty powerful. Good luck manon gamer

47:35 Based amazon loving Sajam

@hjblacdes61

10 ай бұрын

S/o tall women, they're awesome

Talking about Kenny Omega and Demetrious Johnson playing SF6 lol Man the FGC is too cool for its own good

“EX white person” is one of the best description I’ve heard in a long time

Sajam has conquered a former UFC champion (in a fighting game)

@DeeTek08

10 ай бұрын

dj's fight IQ being the exact opposite in fighting games is hilarious.

congrats to Pretzel Logic on behalf of both Ryu mains and old as hell Steely Dan fans.

38:52 wik moment

Manon might be the most "honest" character imo. She rarely ever gets to force the issue especially in netrual but she has great callout tools and reactionary buttons to make up for it,she has the potential to do crazy damage but it requires you to win several interactions first to get there and it's not to uncommon to die on your own offense. I think she's leagues better then geif or lily but when those characters win its usually a cheap robbery,winning with manon is usually just you being right and playing some swag ass netrual and that feels pre great. Her overhead is fucking stupid and cheap tho

@heavyhauler426

10 ай бұрын

The overheads catch everyone off guard with Manon. At least with Chun-Li, if you call out an overhead, you can punish.

@viceanterra3

10 ай бұрын

That overhead is my favorite tool against guile. I hit so many free ones cause theyre charging down so often lol. The matchup still sucks but as far as hitting the overhead, guile is free lol.

@doctordice2doctordice210

10 ай бұрын

"When my grappler wins, it's honest, when other grapplers win it's cheap" lmao

@heavyhauler426

10 ай бұрын

@@doctordice2doctordice210 CORRECT!

@SomeAndroid

10 ай бұрын

@@heavyhauler426 You can punish her blocked overhead on a lot of ranges. She has a very large extended hurtbox during the -9 recovery frames, if you try it out in training I am sure you will be able to find punishes for it.

Missed opportunity should've been Barry Ballet

For real though, I hate when I'm at a restaurant and they tell me not to order the spicy food I'm asking for...... Like I know wtf I like and if I'm not regretting it later then it wasn't spicy enough.

Is sanan going to do mk1?

Sajam in his few hours of playing her plays her better than 80% of the community. Manon players(myself being one) are mostly lazy and would rather complain than figure out her unique style/abilities

@WutTheDeuceGaming

10 ай бұрын

it's not complex tbh. Just use her buttons. That's really it. Most Manon players be doing full screen slides and jump nonstop. I'd say it's more about bad habits over being lazy.

Anybody got experience with modern manon? just got modern luke up to diamond and I want to try out other characters (this is my first sf and I've only touched luke so far)

@Gleapgoogleplusisgone

10 ай бұрын

Part of what makes modern characters dumb strong is a powerful dp. The other part is a good level one to blow and punish a lot of stuff. Manon has no dp, her level one only punishes some stuff close and her combo execution is baby easy for the most part. Her anti airs are also easy as hell. My expectation would be classic Manon is much better than modern. I'd recommend like a shoto or cammy, chun-li or juri. Zangief is kind of a wild card because his default inputs suck and even modern Marisa is really good. I think you will see the most success with those on modern. I'm not convinced modern Manon, guile, Honda or dhalsim are worth a ton. My 2 cents take it for what it's worth.

did sajam really just…snuff that chun into the corner…? from like half a stage away…?

1:11:28 "When you're on twitter, bitching about JP, you're trying to ruin this guy's day. This guy's not the enemy, ok? It's fucking Kakeru. No one can beat Kakeru, alright. That guy's a demon. This guy's just trying to play the video game." *Sajam gets hit with a cheeky overhead* "OMG, never mind. Fuck this guy." lmao

Zangief run you should of read more hard read command grab. Also just read the jump 4head

Bro I just dropped her for Juri. Stop tempting me back.

Her overhead is really good against defensive players and charge characters, since they crouch alot. And that standing MP when they are burned out NEVER gets old!

What a based thumbnail

I hate when people say "why does x dev hate x thing" like get over yourself lmao it's a game. Just cause something isn't as good as you want it doesn't mean anyone is out to get you or your character.

I wouldn't say 5.8 is short, more just average tbh I think 5.6 and downwards is short and 6 ft and upward is tall

Out here looking for the 'accurate height stat' mod.

This climb was eaiser than bread on cheese. _Toasty_

i could have sworn i played you but ... guess i didn't

He is so wrong about the Wi-Fi hate people literally want separate rank matchmaking

I think she's going to get a major buff after Capcom cup. Because I noticed a lot of fgc KZreadrs are starting to play with her now. To see if she's actually good. I'm starting to think they got some inside information

Am I crazy? Manon seems like such a strong character

@nickkiller-0710

10 ай бұрын

she can't dRush into plus frames into a million damage like most of the top tiers, she also lacks an invincible DP which is kinda huge in this game since pressure is so overwhelmingly good and she's pretty vulnerable to DI. She ends up with the Ryu problem where she doesn't really have strong ways of opening the opponent, so you either have to play neutral really well or go for big dumb reads, as inflammatory as it sounds, if your character has to play neutral in this game to get things going, they're mid tier at best, cuz SF6 is all about the cheap stuff.

@TheCoolguymanly

10 ай бұрын

She’s very much the closest the game has to a “noob killer” kind of character, Sajam himself even practically admitted as such at the end of this stream when someone pointed out “damn you’re finally playing my character and all I’ve learned is that I need to do the simple stuff I already do, better”. To which Sajam rightfully pointed out that Manon is the kind of character/archetype where an experienced, multiple Master Rank characters player like him, is going to easily beat less experienced and not as good players, with a simple, straightforward gameplan. His Manon winrate ends up being nearly but not quite as high as his Kimberly one. But you could tell, whenever he went up against either a Master Ranked player, or a player who was also doing a multiple character Master Rank climb and was on a similar skill level to him, he really struggled to get anything going with Manon. Because those players weren’t “noobs” and knew easy and simple counterplay to her extremely limited options.

Ex Whiteperson lmao. Best of 2023

The name would be better as Judo Judy. Doesn't really make grammatical sense the way you had it. Like when you had Spraycan Sam, it would have sounded weird to be Sam Spraycan. Now that I think about it, Spraycan Sajam would have been best lol

@NAM_137

10 ай бұрын

Or just Sprayjam at that point.

@DeeTek08

10 ай бұрын

@@NAM_137 that's what his lady calls him. 😏

17:29 sajam checking chatters will always b my fav part of these videos😂

@SmokePudding

10 ай бұрын

Lmfao all bro did was offer encouragement 😭

@Hrybread

10 ай бұрын

​@@SmokePuddingdude caught a stray for sure