The Street Fighter - D&D:Optimized #75

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For our D&D 5e character build this week we are building an unarmed, unarmored character who is not a Monk. They are a strength-based brawler, and they don't play nice.
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Character Concept:(0:00)
Level 1:(8:45)
Levels 2-6:(13:21)
Levels 7-9:(32:13)
Levels 10-13:(34:05)
Levels 14-17:(40:51)
Final Thoughts:(45:31)
Outtakes:(49:03)
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  • @TreantmonksTemple
    @TreantmonksTemple2 жыл бұрын

    I was curious where you were going to end up with this build. "It ain't about how hard you hit, it's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward", I think this is about as good as you can get. Adding some extra dice and some base attack damage. Thanks for the plug by the way!

  • @snazzyfeathers

    @snazzyfeathers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Legends supporting legends here, love to see it

  • @gdoggy121

    @gdoggy121

    2 жыл бұрын

    You love to see it!

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks and of course! I’d like to play one of my monks with your house rules ;)

  • @BLynn

    @BLynn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DnDDeepDive I thought I read somewhere that you only get the feature of your unarmored defense from the "first" time you gain the feature. It has been a while since I looked into it but I am fairly certain that is how the rules read.

  • @tgr225

    @tgr225

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BLynn IIRC it more of a 'if get unarmored defense from more than one source, you have to choose which one you want to use'.

  • @henriquetakeda
    @henriquetakeda2 жыл бұрын

    When I played Rise of Tiamat, I thought "well... one big problem when fighting dragons is that they can flyby over our heads breathing tons of damage on us. What if they coudn't fly away anymore?" So I did a Goliath Rune Knight/ Divine Soul who could increase to Huge size (giant might + enlarge), teleport to the sky (thunderstep) and action surge to grapple

  • @DnDDeepDive
    @DnDDeepDive2 жыл бұрын

    One thing I meant to discuss and forgot so will put it here: what about Expertise!? It's true: finding a way to get Expertise in Athletics would increase your grappling prowess significantly. I was trying to stretch our DPR with this character but you should definitely consider trying to work Expertise into the build somehow. For me it would either be via the Skill Expert feat (and if I went that route, I'd *probably* start Custom Lineage so I could get that feat and start with an 18 Strength) *or* take one level of Ranger along the way for Canny, which is basically Expertise. ALSO! Errata: You cannot get Unarmed Defense from Barb if you already got it from Monk as per RAW (I sometimes forget that you don't get to choose one or the other). Thus, with this version of the build you'd be best off starting Barb.

  • @Eldakar38

    @Eldakar38

    2 жыл бұрын

    Skill Expert feat would be a great choice here and with only a +1 to stat, maybe grab Crusher feat for another +1 stat to round up.

  • @dienezdarcprowlyr9406

    @dienezdarcprowlyr9406

    2 жыл бұрын

    For expertise I think I would get one level of rogue. Then try to talk my DM into allow my Fists to light finesse weapons to add sneak attack. It is só stupid that they are not.

  • @halohawkxx

    @halohawkxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    I ended up taking a dip in Rogue for the Extra Skill Proficiencies and Expertise in Athletics + Intimidation/Persuasion (mainly cause of the way I wanted to play this character). But yeah, having that Expertise in Athletics is pretty fun, I've done some very bonkers things! Also, having advantage on Grappling is... just icing on the cake; couple that with a few random Homebrewed Feats that a DM had on hand (they uhhh.... kinda make this Grappler extremely unfair).... I think just having an Eldritch Claw Tattoo is currently sufficient for my Magical Bonus lol. Overall though, nice Unarmed Fighter build! Mine is moreso with Plate Armor cause why not have a Soldier who's there to kick some ass with their bare hands, feet, etc! Also a female character, she's 'built different' as my friends say lol xD P.S: I may not be subscribed, BUT... if I can recommend an idea, try looking at Rin Tohsaka from Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works! Look at how she can fight CQC (Unarmed Fighting) and use Magic to buff herself/deal insane fun damage xD I'll leave it up to you in terms of how you'd build this character, or if you want an idea on how to do so and maybe do a Viewer D&D Optimized Build, I'll offer myself as tribute for the first one to do it as a Guinea Pig xD

  • @halohawkxx

    @halohawkxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dienezdarcprowlyr9406 I'd try and convince the DM into doing that IF I mutliclassed Rogue and Monk. They might try to turn it into a Feat instead, but could turn it into a Half-Feat with the +1 ASI to Dex.

  • @Guyoverthere07

    @Guyoverthere07

    2 жыл бұрын

    One more little issue with the tactical options around 27:50 (levels 2-6 so pre-Extra Attack). If you use your Action to Grapple, the monk with Martial Arts unfortunately cannot do a BA unarmed strike. The BA attack is enabled by using the Attack action with an unarmed strike or monk weapon. Not a huge deal. Does help the case for Tavern Brawler and/or cutting the monk entirely for anyone interested/disinterested in those...inhumane routes. Monks are people too.

  • @starbomber
    @starbomber2 жыл бұрын

    My friend was playing in a ToA game and they were playing a Rune Knight with the unarmed fighting style, and they were highly consistent. I also got them an Eldritch Claw tattoo so they would have a 'magic weapon'. They had that tattoo all the way to the end (the end being a sidequest into the Nine Hells to get a wish from a Dao) They punched a Demon Lord in the face, it was epic.

  • @rollingking7976

    @rollingking7976

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did about the same with one of my characters. It was one of my favorites yet in 5e.

  • @GoblinLord

    @GoblinLord

    2 жыл бұрын

    was your friend's build a straight fighter?

  • @jacopoolivari5484

    @jacopoolivari5484

    2 жыл бұрын

    Currently playing a Goliath unarmed rune knight, missed a feat, but boi it's good to punch giants in the face.

  • @GoblinLord

    @GoblinLord

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacopoolivari5484 god that sounds fun, but on the other hand, my brain is imagining if you played just some pissed off halfling lol, hope it continues to be absolutely rad as hell

  • @jacopoolivari5484

    @jacopoolivari5484

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GoblinLord Duregar. You get big Then BIGGER.

  • @guitarplayerJeiky
    @guitarplayerJeiky2 жыл бұрын

    Can we just take a moment to appreciate the commitment with the make up on the thumbnail!? Also I’ve been working on a similar concept to this but a duo with a Bard being like a wrestler and their entourage. This will for sure help me work it!

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Props to my friend Preston for the Thumb! (No, not for punching me, for the photoshop work 😛)

  • @hayleykaye1751

    @hayleykaye1751

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh that sounds like it'd be super fun Phillips! The first thing I thought of is an over the top wrestling manager like Jimmy Hart, that would be funny

  • @guitarplayerJeiky

    @guitarplayerJeiky

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hayleykaye1751 Exactly the concept! Me and a friend are planning on playing them in a future campaign since we are both fans of wrestling

  • @hayleykaye1751

    @hayleykaye1751

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@guitarplayerJeiky I would love to see that, it sounds like a lot of fun. I wonder of your dm would let the bard use a bullhorn as their musical instrument and spellcasting focus? Lol

  • @VVhirl
    @VVhirl2 жыл бұрын

    When I dmed for a monk i gave him basically martial arts wrappings that increased his martial arts die by 1 since it maxes at d10. we made it a d12 and his damage felt really good imo

  • @spencerbibby5797
    @spencerbibby57972 жыл бұрын

    I played a strength based pugilist/grappler and I was actually surprised at how effective (and incredibly fun) it was. I didn't take a monk level - instead I took tavern brawler to gain a bonus action grapple. Once I had my extra attack my first round was typically to shove prone the enemy with my first attack, do an unarmed strike with my second, and then grapple with the bonus action. That worked really well and I would typically lock down the toughest looking opponent in most fights. After having that set-up and working I took skill expert with my next ASI to get expertise in athletics.

  • @ottohenning8084
    @ottohenning80842 жыл бұрын

    One cool alternative for the race would be the Bugbear if you can manage to get high enough stats. The extra reach and once per combat damage could give this character a role similar to a polearm master build if you take sentinel

  • @vernontwinkie
    @vernontwinkie2 жыл бұрын

    So cool to see you're already at 35k subscribers so soon after the 30k videos released. Love that you come up with not just the builds but with realistic backgrounds and reasons to play that character.

  • @yodaleiaheehoo9960
    @yodaleiaheehoo99602 жыл бұрын

    Solid build; I was stoked for this video and I was not disappointed.

  • @samasin5565
    @samasin55652 жыл бұрын

    The description of the character's origin actually works really well for being Nacho Libre!

  • @psoren423
    @psoren4232 жыл бұрын

    Love the prelude. You really set up what’s needed in the session “0”!

  • @inskeeprulerable
    @inskeeprulerable2 жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing. I get to watch this during my lunch break!

  • @brianranta5408
    @brianranta54082 жыл бұрын

    Funny, I was thinking of this as a top laner in League the entire time I was listening to the video! I also haven't played much in a long time, but the memories are always there. Great content, thanks for your work :)

  • @AwkwardPain
    @AwkwardPain2 жыл бұрын

    Very nice as always! The best one I came up with (only gone to level 4 for the concept) was Fighter 1 & Tiger totem barb 3 - The entire idea was based around hitting them, and using bonus action to get them into a grapple. the next turn you would leap into the air (and hopefully have boots of leaping and striding) and go 15' into the air piledriving both you and them into the ground. Didn't think it would scale much, but I loved the concept!

  • @captainkiwi77
    @captainkiwi772 жыл бұрын

    Your end outtakes make a good point, this character kinda requires a hard companion to announce them and sing their rocky theme. ITS TIIIIIIMMMMMEEEE

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

  • @moonsong92
    @moonsong922 жыл бұрын

    I was trying to figure out a character like this one for quite a while. Thank you!

  • @jackofwitz2876
    @jackofwitz28762 жыл бұрын

    Geez two new builds that I have been trying to think through back to back?? You’re on a roll, love to see it haha

  • @Lysving
    @Lysving2 жыл бұрын

    I know you usually build characters for a whole campaign, and I really enjoy that! A one-shot character I'd made definitely didn't have that in mind, but with a rune knight and a sorcerer dip to get enlarge/reduce I made a grappler bugbear who got large enough to grapple an gargantuan dragon (homebrew young tiamat)! We had to check the rules because it surprised all of us, but legendary resistance won't help on the check to contest a grapple. Very fun to pin a dragon for multiple rounds.

  • @JudeCranberry
    @JudeCranberry2 жыл бұрын

    So excited for this one I was literally refreshing the page waiting for it 😅

  • @jamiedorsey4167

    @jamiedorsey4167

    2 жыл бұрын

    You and me both.

  • @gdoggy121

    @gdoggy121

    2 жыл бұрын

    That makes three of us!

  • @darrenromanko2414
    @darrenromanko24142 жыл бұрын

    A great build as always. I'll be home again about this time next week. Much love.

  • @hericn
    @hericn2 жыл бұрын

    I think I would rather take the last level on monk to unlock ki features. It would be cool thematically, something like "after all your travels, adventures and fights you came back from were you began and understood the way of your first master to unlock the power within". And mechanically that would give you 2 uses of flurry of blows per short rest that you could use in the same turn as action surge, make 8 attacks and feel like a Street Fighter character using a Special Move. As always, amazing show. Thank you so much for all your work.

  • @shadowcole6855
    @shadowcole685510 ай бұрын

    Don't comment often in videos since YT comment section is a bit intimidating for me haha,; however, I have really wanted to express that I have been watching your channel since I first came across your Beast Master 2.0 video, and each video is still a blast to watch. Thanks for all the thought and work you put into every video! :)

  • @crownlexicon5225
    @crownlexicon52252 жыл бұрын

    Something that would help your survivability is the fact that a prone enemy has disadvantage on attacks. So that grappled&prone enemy would have a harder time hitting you

  • @derekburm
    @derekburm2 жыл бұрын

    The "redundancy" between the rune and rage (advantage on strength stuff, resist some damage) isn't a bad thing. There are plenty of games where you might run out of rages. Perfect time to invoke those runes!

  • @ohichbinyorick5241
    @ohichbinyorick52412 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the build! Currently trying to envision the same concept and your ideas with the monk dip and number crunching about barb levels helped me make some choices. I'm gonna stick to Battle Master though for those nice special moves.

  • @daytonbenson1203
    @daytonbenson12035 сағат бұрын

    I have an unarmed/improvised weapon rune fighter at my table. As lycanthropes are a common enemy in my world, i granted him a pair of half shield/bracers that add 1ac, +2 on hit, and are silvered, for the sake of overcoming nonmagical attack resistance

  • @basementmadetapes
    @basementmadetapes2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a big fan of the character, The Goon, who punches the undead and other eldritch horrors out for a living. Wanted to build a 5e inspired character for a long time. This is dope

  • @randomdud668
    @randomdud6682 жыл бұрын

    Since we want to start as a barbarian anyway for the unarmored defense, I wonder how this build would perform if you went berserker barbarian for the extra attack as a bonus action and omit monk entirely. I know that this would delay our fighter levels, but that might be the way to easily squeeze in another class for expertise.

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I love the idea if you only tend to have one big combat encounter per day. Otherwise, that exhaustion gets *really* painful.

  • @nottelling6727
    @nottelling67272 жыл бұрын

    Love this build!

  • @Whiplash_MUSIC-hj7vp
    @Whiplash_MUSIC-hj7vp2 жыл бұрын

    One idea I had for this build. If you roll for stats and you get a bit lucky, it would be really cool to go loxodon for the race, because you don't need to invest as heavily into dexterity, and you can grapple 3 people at once.

  • @lordminsc24
    @lordminsc242 жыл бұрын

    I've been considering an unarmed, unarmored, brawling Aarakocra grappler inspired by Tibarn from the Fire Emblem series, so this is perfect timing and some great food for thought on my own deliberations. Thanks!

  • @Trial88
    @Trial882 жыл бұрын

    That moment when you’re rewatching one of Colby’s other videos just waiting for the new one to drop.

  • @tylerambeault1641
    @tylerambeault16412 жыл бұрын

    @d4: D&D Deep Dive I know you've been talking about a spirit guardian build and I think I got one for ya 3 lvls Rune Knight Fighter for Giants Might 6 lvls of Lore Bard for expertise in Athletics and Magical Secrets grabbing Spirit Guardians and Spiritual Weapon. Pick up the feats Warcaster (keeps Spirit Guardians up) and Telekinesis (keeps ppl in your Spirit Guardians range) Extra 2 lvls of fighter get you a second grappled target. Bugbear for the extra reach? Also love the mental image of a Giant's Mighted Bugbear casting Spirit Guardians and running (in full plate armour) into the middle of the battlefield action surging to grapple someone and lifting them off the ground. And maybe your little goblin rogue friend has spider climb and is on your back that whole time taking snap shots when the opportunity arises.

  • @noahlambson9884
    @noahlambson98842 жыл бұрын

    Hey Colby! Great Video!!! I'm never disappointed by your character builds. I have a request/suggestion for some future builds. It could be really neat to see some sort of mini series or perhaps just a special episode discussing the best options for solo class builds. such as what would be the best solo fighter, or solo druid etc... My D and D group is a bit hesitant on allowing multi-classing but I still love to optimize :D

  • @wayward_soul9663
    @wayward_soul96632 жыл бұрын

    First! Really excited for this build btw. Also, before I forget: I was playing an artillarist artificer yesterday, and I found out the protector turret, when combined with a raging barbarian, is incredibly effective and makes your frontline even more tanky then before. This gave me an idea: how would you go about creating a two-person build (like the wolf & coyote, battery & blender, etc) but instead of building for damage, you build to make these two characters, when paired together, basically unkillable. Just a thought.

  • @heathbecker420

    @heathbecker420

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah but you weren't first...

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Will put it on the to do list :)

  • @wayward_soul9663

    @wayward_soul9663

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@heathbecker420 RIP. I didn't see any other comments when I put that. Darn it.

  • @wayward_soul9663

    @wayward_soul9663

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DnDDeepDive Huzzah!

  • @kayoh9364
    @kayoh93642 жыл бұрын

    Build Suggestion: "The Spellblade," featuring Charisma x 3 to every attack Race: technically anything with martial weapon proficiencies as of Tasha's, swap something out for a rapier Stats: prioritize Dex, then Cha, then Con Draconic Sorcerer 6. Pick up Green-Flame Blade, a fire-type dragon ancestor, and Quickened Spell. Celestial Warlock 12. Pick up Pact of the Blade and Lifedrinker. Fill out the last two levels with either Sorcerer or i guess Paladin? Result: You can Green-Flame Blade + Quickened Green-Flame Blade every turn for 2d8 + 10 + 6d8 + 30 damage, you have AC equal to plate armor due to Draconic, and you're still a fullcaster. ... You run out of gas after 3-4 turns though.

  • @danielknight2872
    @danielknight28722 жыл бұрын

    Loving the videos man. Keep up the great work.

  • @lloydlineske2642
    @lloydlineske26422 жыл бұрын

    I didn't click on the card, but that is really cool to put up a link to another providers channel. That's what's up my guy. I love how you are joining the channels together in a sense. Spreading the wealth.

  • @joshuasnell2596
    @joshuasnell25962 жыл бұрын

    I was just building a few brawlers based off of Godzilla the other day! I am stoked to watch this video for ideas! Keep up the awesome work!

  • @hayleykaye1751

    @hayleykaye1751

    2 жыл бұрын

    Based off of Godzilla? Are you recreating the various monsters as d&d characters?

  • @joshuasnell2596

    @joshuasnell2596

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hayleykaye1751 I am doing builds for Godzilla and Anguirus as PC's that are hunting down a golden hydra. I really want them to be brawler types. Not OP, just super fun.

  • @hayleykaye1751

    @hayleykaye1751

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joshuasnell2596 Sounds like a lot of fun! How are you planning on doing Godzillas breath attack?

  • @joshuasnell2596

    @joshuasnell2596

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hayleykaye1751 I was looking at using the Red Chromatic Dragonborn for the breath attack.

  • @ryanscanlon2151
    @ryanscanlon21512 жыл бұрын

    I ran this exact build up to level 10 in a one shot! I also on a prior incarnation of this build from before Rune Knight I asked Crawford about using a grappler creature as an improvised weapon which he then used in a session of Acquisitions Incorporated he DMed for.

  • @sonicbelt
    @sonicbelt2 жыл бұрын

    I was just messing around with a similar build the other day. I chose Leonin and went more into Mercy Monk. I ended up with slightly less dpr, but I was able to Stun, Grapple, cause fear, and poison.

  • @KrSaPoww
    @KrSaPoww2 жыл бұрын

    I played a character like this. He was a russian pit fighter, specialized in grapples and battlefield control as fighter. Yep, I'm kinda insane, but it was really fun

  • @hayleykaye1751

    @hayleykaye1751

    2 жыл бұрын

    Russian fighter... specializes in grapples... now I'm imagining Zangief from street fighter, which sounds just Perfect! 😜

  • @benjaminfrost2780
    @benjaminfrost278011 ай бұрын

    You did an amazing job with the limited options for this concept you have in by the book gameplay. Thankfully I have a DM that allows homebrew and have a pugilist barbarian subclass that actually scales better than a monk with unarmed fighting. But genuinely your by the book build could be used in by the book games and outshine a number of solo class builds that people play in those games with ease. Well done.

  • @alanschaub147
    @alanschaub1472 жыл бұрын

    One thing I really like about your channel is that you make personal requests for support, rather than using pre-recorded ads that you insert into every video. 👍🏻

  • @ShadowCutter10
    @ShadowCutter10 Жыл бұрын

    i love this concept. Ive always wanted to make something like this concept but i always ran into the nonmagical resistances so i made fist wrappings with +1, +2, +3 variants that are supposed to be used with the unarmed fighting style (available on DnD beyond) as a way to let it work but i was unaware of the eldritch claw tattoo and insignia of claws. so im gonna make a cool tatted fighter guy now

  • @timscott7151
    @timscott71512 жыл бұрын

    Looks like people REALLY wanted this build!! Let's go!!

  • @kinghoenn3478
    @kinghoenn34782 жыл бұрын

    Here is my brawler build and he works great. 3. Lvls in Barbarian, Bear Totem. 17 lvls in Fighter Battle master with unarmed combat as your fighting style. You can hit three times a round, access to action surge twice. You can use your maneuvers to do sick combat stuff to control the battlefield using your abilities. While your rage lets you take half damage from almost everything so your in the fight for a while. Take the tough feat for extra HP. Then take the sentinel feat. After that just ASI as needed.

  • @jacobbrutcher1690
    @jacobbrutcher16902 жыл бұрын

    I just started watching the netflix daredevil show. The ability to take a punch and being a “boxer” has some fun parallels!

  • @bigaj6901

    @bigaj6901

    2 жыл бұрын

    All we'd need is a way to get blindfighting (or blindsense i forget the actual name) and we're set!

  • @crownlexicon5225
    @crownlexicon52252 жыл бұрын

    When you spoke of wanting to grapple and fight unarmed, I figured you'd do a duergar rune knight. That way you can use the rune knight ability to become large then enlarge/reduce on yourself to become huge and grapple pretty much anything Edit: Well, I kept watching and I see you went Rune Knight after all lol

  • @StalwartResolve
    @StalwartResolve2 жыл бұрын

    I actually was looking for a Zangief (Street fighter) build a couple years back. 😳 This isn't quite that, but close enough. Loved your bloopers at the end 🤣🎤

  • @ChazTheYouthful
    @ChazTheYouthful2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for honoring Bob Sagat with this build, many people forget he lost the street fighter championship in 1987 to Ryu in a stunning upset.

  • @TheCWasson12
    @TheCWasson122 жыл бұрын

    Man I really gotta start actually doing my ideas. I was JUST thinking about how to optimize the unarmed strikes fighting style, and here you are doing it before I get the chance. Not gonna lie, it feels like I'm spoiling it for myself so I don't get the chance to figure it out, but your builds always end up better than mine anyways.

  • @hayleykaye1751

    @hayleykaye1751

    2 жыл бұрын

    I say go for it still Caleb! If you want to you can customize Colbys' build, or just go ahead with your own ideas. You could try doing variants as well, like purposely taking no monk levels while still trying to maximize unarmed fighting, or focusing your build around a different race. In any case you should definitely give it a shot :)

  • @TheCWasson12

    @TheCWasson12

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hayleykaye1751 yeah I think I'd make it a little more spell friendly potentially. I've got some ideas 🤔

  • @AtelierGod
    @AtelierGod Жыл бұрын

    12:13 if you stretch some logic. Since beast barbarians claws are treated as simple weapons so that there is no confusion if it works with rage, if you’ve got the dual wielder feat you can two weapon fighting using the claws option which will give you a free attack as part of the attack action and the bonus attack just without the damage modifier but still the rage modifier.

  • @tuliossauro
    @tuliossauro2 жыл бұрын

    Nice!!! Mine is a level 5 Hunter (colosssus slayer) Ranger STR20 with unarmed fighting style feat, so he give some heavy punches with Hunter's Mark and the other features. (one punch can make 27 damage)

  • @2rustysporks
    @2rustysporks2 жыл бұрын

    So fun. Thanks for this!

  • @GryphonDes
    @GryphonDes2 жыл бұрын

    I 100% adore these Colby, but man oh man, you would go HAM if you did some Pathfinder 2 character builds :D It is such a detailed and versatile system and it has bloody good bones!

  • @cheepa4048
    @cheepa4048 Жыл бұрын

    As a toplaner, I'd say that rage is quite lore accurate for us. Nice video!

  • @thetim9480
    @thetim9480 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I've had the character concept of a monk consumed by rage for a long time but couldn't figure out how to satisfyingly execute it mechanically. This is perfect. The only difference being my character will be a fallen aasimar for backstory reasons. He's going to be extra short for an aasimar so I can spin becoming a rune knight as trying to find a way to overcome his inferiority complex.

  • @andrewf9126
    @andrewf91262 жыл бұрын

    A couple spell tattoos can really help out a build like this. Barrier tattoo and Eldritch claw tattoo in particular. As a DM I would probably be inclined to let somebody have them if was was to bring a cool character concept more in-line with optimized characters.

  • @jameswebb4545
    @jameswebb45452 жыл бұрын

    I think the ‘not a monk’ preference was to avoid the no armour restriction which you can’t avoid if you want the extra bonus attack. 6 lvls in beast barbarian might work and be on point for that inner rage you talked about when explaining why they were with the monks in the first place?

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Right - I seriously considered Beat Barb for a long time but ultimately decided against just because I was really wanting like, an MMA puncher and not so much a Werewolf/Slasher, ya know? Obviously it'd be a strong option, but especially as the claws are technically considered weapons, it just didn't feel quite right, thematically.

  • @jaforewit
    @jaforewit2 жыл бұрын

    love the bloopers :) found myself singing along with you lolz

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

  • @snarkback
    @snarkback2 жыл бұрын

    I made some cool items like the lion wrist wraps that are leather fighter wraps that do magical damage and the damage for those made the attack slashing magical and you could burn a charge for an extra d6 of force damage. Also made greaves that did lightning or thunder damage for unarmed strikes and let you teleport once per day as a bonus action after attacking.

  • @Cypress77
    @Cypress77 Жыл бұрын

    At lvl 3, I swapped the 2nd level of barbarian for rogue before going fighter. I think a 1-level dip into rogue is worth the expertise in athletics (grappling). Not to mention getting proficiency and expertise in perception or whatever you want, plus thieves tools. If the DM allows sneak attack with unarmed, that would be a nice bonus.

  • @Torthrodhel
    @Torthrodhel2 жыл бұрын

    If you wanna be more of a striker type but don't wanna leave out the grappling, it's worth keeping in mind that conceptually, grappling doesn't have to mean suplexes, ground positions or joint locks - it could just be something as simple as an ear grab while you throw elbows, or a single collar tie for your knee strikes to connect to. Any kind of entanglement at all can be what grappling is. You don't have to be greek or roman! :)

  • @shinystars2475

    @shinystars2475

    Жыл бұрын

    Clinching would make since if you’re going for a boxer type character

  • @Torthrodhel

    @Torthrodhel

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shinystars2475 yep, exactly! Clinches just like I said with the ear grab or single collar tie. All sorts of options. You probably mean the thai plumb? You could also do a half nelson or grovit, or the old pit hook if you're a bit to the side of them. Even a leg vine can still be a standing option. Hair grab, pie face or goozle for the rougher sorts maybe. Or hell just a shirt bunch why not. Plenty of options for a controlled target to be striking at, even if you're not intending to go to the ground. I mean if you really wanna go conceptual, you could reasonably have just a stream of accurate jabs behave as a grapple, so long as you're using them to control rather than do damage (as is, after all, the typical use). Even just that functionally behaves as a kind of tie-up.

  • @overwatchfnatic9094
    @overwatchfnatic90942 жыл бұрын

    I love the idea of a brawler/boxer type character. Made my own with an echo knight fighter. My thinking was a thematic take on shadow boxing, literally having his shadow be able to box and fight enemies. Then flavoring the teleport/switch as some kind of focused speed movement somewhat like what we see in anime. Just blinking because of how fast they move. My DM allowing mundane items like bracers or boxing gloves to count as a weapon for the purposes of mechanics and having the same idea of morphing items to fit their style like making a magical sword instead be magical gloves.

  • @jasontodd433
    @jasontodd4332 жыл бұрын

    I really like this idea and as soon as you said you wanted to go for consistent damage, I figured Rune Knight. But I made a few changes that kinda has the same feel but maybe a bit higher damage overall (I haven't run the numbers.😅) instead of mountain Dwarf I went Harengon to make up for my low Dex that a Monk would have both for AC and the reaction saving throw boost. The Jump is good for engaging or disengaging. And instead of Rune Knight I took Battle Master with Trip Attack, Brace, and Grappling Strike everything else is virtually the same. I would recommend starting off with 3 levels in Fighter first and using Chain Mail for your AC at first then dip in to Monk and then Barb for the bonus action attack, rage, and Unarmed Defense. Then you choice is grabbing another level in Barb or push fighter for extra attack

  • @bossdozz
    @bossdozz2 жыл бұрын

    Damn colby you always seem to reach into my mind and pull out builds Ive had on paper forever but now get to see them be optimized!! Ill just give you my next idea so you dont need to use your alter memories on me. The MC/the mentor/undying type character basically the general idea is a barbarian/shadow monk atm that always gets up to fight back, lemme know what you think :) Its my own way of dealing with some bbegs and plans DMs set up, usually the plan to kill you once so this character has had some use running at the BBEG burning their strongest spells and then getting right back up

  • @daithi1966
    @daithi19662 жыл бұрын

    I had an accidental pugilist. I went with bladesinger, which has great AC. I took three levels of Fighter for Echo Knight and took the unarmed fighting style. Then I got the Touch of Death -- Dark Gift. and with Booming Blade / Green Flame Blade this made a really good unarmed fighter. I didn't have the Blood Fury Tattoo, but that would have really topped things off.

  • @stephenchisholm3288
    @stephenchisholm32882 жыл бұрын

    Thank you that was so awesome

  • @groovydude4511
    @groovydude45112 жыл бұрын

    I think a really strong base for an "anti-monk" build would be 1 Monk/2 Rogue/x Fighter (and some Barbarian if you are going Strength like you did). Monk for Unarmored Defense and Martials Arts. Rogue for Cunning Action (and Expertise in Athletics if grappling). Fighter for Unarmed Fighting Style. I think right at level 4 you will feel similar-ish to a Monk, but your numbers across the board should be better.

  • @gadgetronking4255
    @gadgetronking42552 жыл бұрын

    I think a good alternative for this type of build (though maybe a bit thematically different) would be either going Beasthide Shifter, giving you a +2 to con and a +1 to str, the ability to shift which gives extra temporary hit points and a +1 increase to AC all of which help the build, or Longtooth Shifter removing the level in Monk as it gives you a bonus bite attack and still some extra hit points (so either more survivability or more damage). I would also go for Path of the Beast Barbarian giving still giving rage etc.. but also ways to defend yourself more and make you far tankier with the tail and bite options (the claw option also lets you do more attacks but that is only a d6 unless your DM lets you still use the d8s from your fighting style), it also fixes the resistance to non-magical weapons if you keep going all the way to level 6 (however if again the DM lets use d8s instead of d6s I would go all they way to level 6).

  • @lkeasbey1
    @lkeasbey12 жыл бұрын

    For the zealot barbarian gain, I would slot it into a story beat where you realize the monastery you started in wasn't worthless. You still aren't suited to the way of the floating leaf, but your rage has a tranquility of it's own.

  • @SethHolbertWrites
    @SethHolbertWrites2 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see you make a video of what you think the perfect dnd adventuring group would look like out of your builds, always love your content, keep up the good work

  • @DnDDeepDive

    @DnDDeepDive

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Full party builds are hard but I *do* enjoy "team up" two character builds once in awhile. I might just combine a couple of those... say the "Brainy and the Beast" with maybe the "Wolf and Coyote"?

  • @SarahOtter
    @SarahOtter2 жыл бұрын

    Benjamin Huffman made a wonderful pugilist class that would fit this very well! Though you have to pay for the PDFs, this is still a fantastic idea for a bruiser sort of build, R.A.W.! And with that, you *can* make either McGreggor or Nacho Libre! Then there's also a couple other 'fighting schools' you can follow, including the 'Perfect Square', all for grappling!

  • @demiurge2763
    @demiurge276310 ай бұрын

    Personally, when I made a pugilist I went for a more nonmagical route. Intsead of a level dip in monk, I took the tavern brawler feat. While the Rune Knight ia definitely better at grappling, I chose to go with the Battle Master subclass to make them seem like more of a trained fighter in hand to hand combat. As for the race, the campaign I was in gave everyone a free feat and didn't allow for V. Human, so I was stuck between going plasmoid or dhampir. Both were cool flavorwise and mechanically, but I ended up going with dhampir since a friend gave me a cool bacsktory idea. I eventually took the skill expert feat for expertise in athletics. The end result was ridiculous athletics checks (+13 athletics check +1d8 from grapple strike +1d4+4 from dhampir bite), the highest one being 42.

  • @rontrobertson
    @rontrobertson2 жыл бұрын

    I did something similar with a homebrew race that's descended from wolverines. Because of that critter's thick skin, I gave the race a Constitution-based AC similar to loxodons'. That way I could stick with monk and fighter without worrying about unarmored defense. Still, taking fewer levels in monk (I was going for flurry of blows) and adding a few in barbarian is worth a look. Also, I went with Battle Master, particularly for Grappling Strike and Trip Attack, but considered Rune Knight, as much for the cool factor as anything else.

  • @gamergunn7139
    @gamergunn7139 Жыл бұрын

    My brawler build was a simple 14/6 Fighter/Barb Rune Knight/Bear Totem Emerald Dragonborn, so while raging I had every single damage resistance. I picked up Skill Expert for the Athletics expertise, and took Arcana as well. I did ultimately take Tavern Brawler, cuz it fit thematically, as did the Arcana prof. I never got to use it, but it was more of a gimmick build anyway. Glad it got made by you

  • @sumdood6972
    @sumdood69722 жыл бұрын

    a really fun grappler build I've done was a goliath. I started barbarian 1 then 5 monk 2 more barb then monk the rest of the way. as a goliath you get athletic build which has an interesting interaction with grappling, because you count as a size category larger for pushing pulling and DRAGing you can actually drag medium size creatures your full speed. its a fringe benefit but if your dm is good with interesting terrain... similar to yours the barbarian rage is amazing for grappling and I love the grapple to flurry of blows combo. open hand lets me knock prone on the the attack for the makeshift stun and bear totem for the survivability. my favorite moment of his career was elbow dropping the back of a tyrannosaurus so hard it collapsed for a round. I understand people wanted a non-monk build they just need to realize that monk as a class doesn't neseccarily mean "lives in a monastery and learns martial arts" it just means "I don't need weapons because I am the weapon"

  • @davidlewis8814
    @davidlewis881410 ай бұрын

    You know what I like most about theory-crafting and character building? The schedules of the participants ALWAYS line up. It seems like I can do it at almost any time I’d like!

  • @remraven6443
    @remraven64432 жыл бұрын

    I cannot stress enough how much I love the bluppers

  • @foxy2pointo
    @foxy2pointo2 жыл бұрын

    This was not the direction I expected but it turned out great! Feels more like Taguro from yu yu hakasho then like a street bruiser (you might not know about him but everything from the progression to the giants might is perfect for Taguro)

  • @mafaeth
    @mafaeth2 жыл бұрын

    Suggesting this again! It would be great for players to see an optimized build of subclasses without any multiclassing. They would be fairly easy to make and shouldn't be too long.

  • @TheRawrnstuff
    @TheRawrnstuff2 жыл бұрын

    12:03 "...There's no way [snip] to get an attack with your fists as a bonus action outside of being a monk..." I, too, might be wrong, but I think that's true. However! If you want an *unarmed strike* as a bonus action, there are a few ways to go about it. 1) It's possible with the Longtooth Shifter race from the 'Eberron - Rising from the Last War' sourcebook. It's only available while you're "shifting" - a kind of like a "Rage lite" feature available to use once between rests, short or long, lasting up to a minute. 2) The centaur can do it with their hooves after a charging attack, which in turn requires the character to move 30 ft in a straight line before it. 3) The minotaur (Theros, Ravnica, Amonkhet) can use their horns to make a bonus attack unarmed strike as a Goring Rush, but that requires taking a dash action and moving 20 ft - although, that movement doesn't need to be in a line. So, even in melee already, you could walk to the other side of your target never leaving the threatened squares, and still have 40 ft movement left for the round. It's not great, but it's possible. Note that you should ask if your DM considers centaur hooves and minotaur horns "weapons" that still make unarmed attacks or not. "Weapons" can be blessed, normal unarmed attacks can't, unless specifically mentioned by the type of blessing feature. In addition, some features require an attack made "with a weapon" - regardless of whether those weapons make unarmed strikes or normal weapon attacks. (Unarmed strikes are a special type of weapon attack, as "weapon attack" just means "not a spell attack") Regardless, each of the above are considered "unarmed strikes". A special note, the Viashino Race from UA53 - Races of Ravnica has access to an unarmed strike as a reaction to an enemy dealing damage to you. If your build wants plenty of unarmed attacks, that's a pretty unique option.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda Жыл бұрын

    My version of this character, before I've gotten into your build, is a Duergar Fighter/Barbarian multiclass with the Unarmed Fighting style, Bear Totem, you know, the good stuff. I'm pretty sure I went Battle Master for things like Trip Attack and Riposte.

  • @ralorieth6858
    @ralorieth68582 жыл бұрын

    I love the vids so much!!! You should totally do a vid on the ghostlance build :)) If you can fit it in the schedule ofc :D

  • @kevinkratovil563
    @kevinkratovil5632 жыл бұрын

    I love this idea! If it were me, I'd probably skip the first level in Monk (unless you gotta have that story element) because if we consider a fighter with unarmed fighting style being able to utilize all their appendages as weapons (which I do as a DM, your mileage may vary) then we should be able to consider their bonus action as a viable "light weapon attack" since their appendages are unweighted. Plus you can wear chainmail, so your AC ends up being higher anyway (all the street fighters who like living wear armor). So you start out as an angry dwarf with no axe at hand, but with two doughty fists at level 1. I love the monk but I can't take that first monk level.

  • @The_MKUltra
    @The_MKUltra2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool build. Trying to work on something with the Path of the Beast/fighter. That additional attack from path of the beast counts as simple weapons. Need to hash it out with dual wielder feat, grappler, possible two weapon fighting, and maybe skill expert. Eldritch claw tattoo would handle magical attacks if we keep the barbarian at 3, or we can forgo it if we go to 6+ on barb but I feel the fighter levels do more long term.

  • @kennethdavis6257
    @kennethdavis62575 ай бұрын

    I am currently playing a Rune Knight/Barbarian/with one level of Druid. I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but he makes his living as a charter fisherman and does pit fighting in his spare time. The druid is to have Druidcraft to know the weather for the next day's fishing, and Guidance to give his charter customers a little edge on their survival checks. Also, he uses Goodberry and create water to make sure they never starve or die of thirst when at sea, so though it isn't that important... (though having Jump for combat is awesome with this build) having that one level of Druid adds a lot of flavor to the character. I like your point about the level of Monk... but I hate to miss out on that 18th level capstone for Rune knight... being able to become huge is an awesome idea if you want to wrestle giants. Thanks for sharing the build!

  • @glb190
    @glb190 Жыл бұрын

    Love love love this build. I can see your argument in going 3 in Barb, 1 in monk, since you're not going to be looking past lvl 17, otherwise I was looking into Barb 3 / Fighter X for the 2nd Action Surge. Since my group is starting our chars at level 3, I'm starting in Barb for the Con save, assuming I've got enough WIS for the MC requirements for monk.

  • @andrewhalmo656
    @andrewhalmo6562 жыл бұрын

    A Tabaxi would also be a good race to choose because of there claw attacks😁

  • @Onorel
    @Onorel2 жыл бұрын

    Older editions had the cestus that you could use as a weapon, I feel like it should exist in 5e. You're still using your fists, but it's also a weapon which can be magical. I mean, it's not like a pair of magical brass knucles would break the game.

  • @davidlewis8814

    @davidlewis8814

    10 ай бұрын

    Agreed! I had a DM create some magical hand-wraps for me once; very thoughtful

  • @arseniykukushkin2428
    @arseniykukushkin24282 жыл бұрын

    Hei! Nice build! I have to started campaign with similar idea. Campaign seems to finish at level 8-9, so i have thought of more economical build different build. Human var(Tavern Brawler, 17STR) Barbarian and Unarmed fighting figher +go to beast barbarian+ atlete +beast jump So at level 8 if i have single grappled enemy the damage with action surge is d4+(2d6claw+ 2d8 unarmed +8+ 16) =38dmg +1-2d6 for jumping (and landing enemy prone)and raising up so total 45 and 4 to yourself. At the same time with two grappled enemies you can deal nearly the same damage spreading between two and having nice AC by tail, or healing a bit from jaws. 9 lvl could be monk if not care about armour, so damage could be raised to 51 in general , and 62 using 1 ki for single target.

  • @youtubeisawebsite7484
    @youtubeisawebsite74842 жыл бұрын

    love the thumbnail art

  • @Jw87563
    @Jw875632 жыл бұрын

    I'm expecting unarmed fighter and maybe some barbarian for extra tankiness. I'm glad you're sticking to RAW for this build because that can encourage creativity. Using Benjamin Huffman's Pugilist would be too easy (I recommend you playing this class someday, though).

  • @ColtNomad
    @ColtNomad Жыл бұрын

    So I'm starting a new campaign and we are starting with the Heroic Array and a feat. So my human variant fighter starts with 2 feats. I chose the unarmed fighting style and the manuever feat so I can grapple (hopefully) as part of my first attack. I plan to make my own adjustments to fit with what I'd think is fun but otherwise I plan to follow this build and I am pretty excited to start this new character.

  • @BLynn
    @BLynn2 жыл бұрын

    Level 1:(see above) [monk 1 & race] {{Comments say to change this to barbarian}} Level 2:(see above) [barbarian 1] {{changing 1st requires this or 3rd level to be monk 1}} Level 3:(@15:54) [barbarian 2] Level 4:(@17:29) [fighter 1 & fighting-style] Level 5:(@22:15) [fighter 2] Level 6:(@22:29) [fighter 3 & subclass] Level 7:(see above) [fighter 4 & ASI] Level 8:(@32:29) [fighter 5] Level 9:(@32:54) [fighter 6 & ASI] Level 10:(see above) [barbarian 3 & subclass] Level 11:(@36:52) [fighter 7] Level 12:(@38:36) [fighter 8 & ASI] Level 13:(@39:00) [fighter 9] Level 14:(see above) [fighter 10] {{my mistake commenting there was an ASI at this level}} Level 15:(@42:11) [fighter 11] Level 16:(@43:07) [fighter 12 & ASI] Level 17:(@43:24) [barbarian 4 & ASI]

  • @davidsweet5094

    @davidsweet5094

    2 жыл бұрын

    You don't get an ASI at fighter level 10. I think you and Colby goofed. He should only have a Dex of 16.

  • @BLynn

    @BLynn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@davidsweet5094 it is probably my fault trying to do multiple things at once. I will check the video & apply the correction. Noting if it is a mistake in the video.

  • @chopcooey
    @chopcooey2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, getting martial arts solves the problem of being funneled into using a shield, and is in line with the theme. I was assuming tavern brawler, but this works.

  • @Mike-mm8gg
    @Mike-mm8gg2 жыл бұрын

    24:50 Cloud rune is so much fun, amazing for saving your supports or just getting a heavy attack redirected Helpful to have a friendly spellcaster willing to let you obliterate their familiar of there's nothing else to hit

  • @IdyllicMullet
    @IdyllicMullet9 ай бұрын

    I played a very similar version of this. The Warforged bruiser, Relic. He was a Rock 'em Sock 'em rockstar. He's enjoying his retirement but I'm thinking he might have inspired someone who will be embarking on an adventure soon

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