We need that MAC gauntlet torture test on this

@douglasmcnay644

11 ай бұрын

I wish he would bring that back.

@protectiverailroaddad7541

11 ай бұрын

He says he has mags on order and plans to do it next week.

@KC_Smooth

11 ай бұрын

Yes please!

@hockeybum99reviews50

11 ай бұрын

or a XD that he promised years ago and never happened

@OmnisEtNihil

11 ай бұрын

@@hockeybum99reviews50 the flannel lord has a torture test for a host of pistols and I think the XD is included.

I love mine! Actually won it in a raffle and I’m surprised how much I genuinely enjoy shooting it over my other pistols. I shoot regularly and haven’t been “giddy” in quite some time and it changed when I shot this particular piece.

This pistol to me looks like the product of a love triangle between a Sig P320, Walther PDP, and pretty much any Glock model ever.

@montevallomustang

11 ай бұрын

To me it looks just like a modified beretta apx especially the trigger

@The_Ghost923

11 ай бұрын

@montevallomustang Wow...no kidding. I just looked it up, and you're right!

@9770G

11 ай бұрын

I’d agree except for the Walther part. I just see a Glock with a Sig FCU type idea inside of it.

@glocklahoma7064

11 ай бұрын

Honest outlaw said it first😂

I don't have a full size 9mm pistol yet, so this fits the bill perfectly for me

Had my Echelon for a few weeks now and it’s probably my favorite striker gun so far.

It's a Sig, Walther, And Glock all rolled into one. It's a SWAG!

@jaycampbell2332

11 ай бұрын

Nice!!

@tomasrecinos448

11 ай бұрын

And hk vp9 ears

@Paladin1873

11 ай бұрын

@@tomasrecinos448 I couldn't make a suitable acronym with H & K in it. SHWAG?

@Ni999

11 ай бұрын

😅

If I didn't already have one 9mm polymer striker fired I would get this one. Its so ergonomic, felt very natural in hand.

@joedesalvo3316

11 ай бұрын

get this one as well... options are a good thing

@jagpilotohio

11 ай бұрын

I’m in the same place. I handled it at my range last week and was quite impressed and every single review is positive, but I just have zero need for another polymer duty sized gun right now.

@loveamerica2828

10 ай бұрын

just got mine and fired last weekend....I own many pistols and this one is way over hyped....Ran well but recoil was fairly harsh much better pistols out there in this range Canik tp9sfx is one.....Springfield must have broke the bank getting this reviewed!!!!

@LightofRyga

10 ай бұрын

@@loveamerica2828 Thanks for the honest assessment. I've been thinking about the Echelon, but it didn't seem worth replacing my Canik Mete for. Your comment helps confirm that.

@loveamerica2828

10 ай бұрын

@@LightofRyga I would rent it and fire it before you replace anything...

I shot one at launch event and I was very accurate with the u-notch. What really sets this apart to me is the ultra-flexible plateless optic mounting system. The Echelon is definitely unique enough to not be "just another striker". The modular chassis is a bonus IMHO. Great info Tim, thankyousir!

One feature I think you missed is their second sear on the trigger that makes it more drop safe or ND safe than some competitors.

@rl2862

11 ай бұрын

Which competitors is it “more drop safe” than? Sig? I haven’t heard issues from any of the big players like S&W / Glock about drop safety concerns.

@vladyakubets

11 ай бұрын

@@rl2862 Yeah, it’s probably more of just a nice back up and for peace of mind. It certainly can’t hurt, especially for a duty focused gun

@socmonki

11 ай бұрын

The p320 has that as well, and has had it for quite some time. Not a knock on HS Produkt (the actual manufacturer). I welcome the Echelon. Rather than an evolution (P250 to P320) it's a new design, with a low bore axis and a removeable fire control. I love my 320s (have an M18 and an X Carry), but I also enjoy variety, which is why I have an APX A1, 2 Arex Deltas, Tisas PX-9 (XDM clone), PDP, and a Platypus. I handled an Echelon and am going to pick one up later this month on the tax free weekend. I think it's a great design incorporating a lot of innovations from a lot of popular guns, along with the optics system that is IMO a game changer. Can't wait to take it out and put it through it's paces.

@CharlieW72

11 ай бұрын

@@omarslim3362 I’d guess Armory Life will do exactly that, if they haven’t already. They’re SA’s online publication with reviews, articles, history stuff etc. neat website.

@DavidJones-hr9bn

11 ай бұрын

​@@omarslim3362just another notch on the same moving part that's under upward spring pressure until the trigger is pulled to the rear. A backup engagement point for the lip of the striker in case it slips over the primary sear due to drop or wear. Gun will still function upon pull of the trigger, just slightly less spring tension.

It has a barrel - very glockish. It's 9mm - very glockish. It's black - very glockish. It has metal stuff inside - very glockish. The metal stuff comes out - very sigish.

@talkingrock7011

11 ай бұрын

Over use for sure not every thing has Glock features

@03Grunt-arrino

11 ай бұрын

Though honestly, if that was just sitting on a table we’d assume it was a Glock clone haha. Looks exactly like a Shadow Systems “Non-Glock-Glock.”

@thisguy41487

11 ай бұрын

So it's a Glig.

@bbyshady

11 ай бұрын

Glocks are plain This has much more going for it compared to a glock

@9770G

11 ай бұрын

This is clearly SA taking a Glock and putting the FCU concept idea inside of it.

Well done. Well spoken. Thank you.

I agree with you about the box... except that the XDM and XDS cases were amazing. 😉 Hearing a lot of good things about this gun.

The Croatians at HS seem to have done a great job on their successor for the XD, which should give Sig a run for their money. From what I've seen on other reviews, the mags share the same metal tube, just different baseplates. There seems to be a 'gotcha' with the extended baseplates that will allow it to come apart if not properly assembled.

@hks956

10 ай бұрын

The base Echelon is a whole lot better than the base p320 nitron. I'm not really planning on getting one or interested in either but will be very interested in the options they have for frames. If Wilson Combat makes one that gets rid of the ambi mag release... I could be a buyer. Trigger and slide already look to be best in class for poly guns.

@Gieszkanne

3 ай бұрын

Its not on HS homepage. Its more than an import. I rather think that HS produce these for SA and SA develped and designed it.

@petesheppard1709

3 ай бұрын

@@Gieszkanne Interesting!

@Gieszkanne

3 ай бұрын

@@tomislav2494 The Echelon is NOT on HS homepage!

@Gieszkanne

3 ай бұрын

@@tomislav2494 The Echelon is NOT on HS homepage!

Excellent tutorial. Comprehensive analysis, great video graphics and so pleased will purchase an Echelon today.. Thank you and keep up the great work 👍

Thanks MAC ! Appreciate the information. I'm thinking I need to go take a closer look at this pistol.

Excellent comparison video.Thank you Mac and Jason.

Really appreciate this review from you MAC. I've been waiting to get your opinion on this handgun. A lot of people are talking about how its a clone this, clone that, just another this, just another that...but that couldn't be further from the truth. HS Produkt took EVERYTHING that EVERYONE wanted in their favorite striker fired polymer pistol and made it absolutely perfect from the factory in one firearm. I think that's an important point too...this is NOT a Springfield Armory product. They put their name on it and import it...but just like the XD, Hellcat, and Hellion, this is manufactured by HS Produkt in Croatia...and just like their other firearms, it's proving to be an absolute beast in reliability and during torture tests so far. We're really excited to see where this firearm goes!

Just bought today. Absolutely love the trigger! Right on Springfield! 👍

I was wondering if this was going to be featured soon. MAC is one of the few channels who's opinion matters to me.

@juggernaut9262

11 ай бұрын

@OFFICIALUND If that's the only grammar issue, then I'm happy. Between having a brain injury, auto correct, and having my 2 small children climbing on me. Lucky it be english like 😅

Grogu with an Uzi! Yes! 🤣❤

This guy makes great content, I like the format and flow of this video (i.e. showing a pic of the trigger weight gauge and telling instead of wasting time pulling it continuously). Great info and awesome gun by Springfield, they are killing it lately.

I think Springfield hit a home run importing this HS products pistol. I shot a friends at my local range and immediately bought one. Looking forward to the different sizes and colors we know are coming. I've owned several P320s and already like the Echelon better. Now if it holds up as well as my Beretta APX I'll be even happier.

@romang6437

11 ай бұрын

Is it soft shooter? Similar to m&p?

@mag318

11 ай бұрын

@@romang6437 I really like the M&P series of pistols and being a 9mm it is relatively soft shooting. Not quite as soft as my APX but still very comfortable.

@socmonki

11 ай бұрын

I don't think you'll have to worry. HS Produkt has been in the game for a while, and they've shown that they make reliable and durable firearms. Lots of people saying they won't buy the first run of Echelons because it's new and the Prodigy launch was crap, but this isn't Springfield. HS knows what they are doing and have been working on this pistol for a while. The only quirk I've seen out of all the reviews and forum posts I've read is the optic mount plate coming loose. Well, just loctite the screws before you take it out if you don't put an optic on it. At least it's better than the APX A1 where some people couldn't even get the screws out and had to take it to a smith or send it to Beretta. Love my APX regardless LOL

@antilaw9911

10 ай бұрын

I bought mine today. Then you already know the trigger is killer!! 👍

@Gieszkanne

3 ай бұрын

Its not on HS homepage. Its more than an import. I rather think that HS produce these for SA and SA develped and designed it.

actually think this looks really slick. While I and probably everyone else here dont need a new full size 9mm, compact neither. Nor another micro-compact for that matter. However I have been looking to finally get an optic ready handgun, and this is honestly a compelling option. Love to see a reasonably priced handgun so full of good features in the design and ergos. 17 & 21 round capacity is good to see too for a potential TNP-style “go to war” pistol. Springfield might have finally caught my eye lol

Thanks great detailed video all the important things no BS!! Long time subscriber and for good reason. 👍

I bought this a week after it came out and I love it. I EDC this appendix despite the size. I’ve put around 1000 rounds through it and not one issue. I had the frame cerakoted FDE, I couldn’t wait… Holosun 508t and streamlight TLR-1 HL, great gun. Good job Springfield. Croatian or not.

@baxydalia

11 ай бұрын

Any pics of it in fde?

@henryscreations

11 ай бұрын

source: trust me bro

@SmokesKwazukii

11 ай бұрын

croatian is good

I like mine, everything about it is what I want. Rmr type 2 mounted easily, ordered the screws from Springfield.

Great review! I absolutely love mine!

Really nice review, appreciate it. I think this will pair nicely with my PDP.

17:28 you can use the backstraps instead of the tool, that's why they have the punch on the top

Awesome weapon. My lgs was put of the basic model but for 20$ more I got the threaded barrel version with the upgraded 3 dot sightscabd couldn't be happier.

great video. thanks

Looking at the Echelon from the perspective of a long time owner of the various generations of XD's, the grip safety and striker status indicator are gone, optics mounting does not require replacement of the sights for co-witnessing or purchase of a separate adapter plate (as was the case for my XD-M Elite), and I like what they did with the shape of the disassembly lever. Going back to 2004, when I was looking for something in 9mm in addition to my 1911 (.45 ACP), I chose the XD9 Service over the Glock 19 based on feel driven by the grip angle. If the Echelon has mimicked the Glock grip angle, as well as the modular design, it tells me that Springfield / HS Produkt is going after different subsegments within the market.

Mines been great. I love it!! Feels way better in my hands than my Glocks and I can shoot it more accurately. I've put a little over 2500 rounds through it with no issues. As long as it keeps performing great I will definitely be investing more in this platform. I'm trying to shoot it as often as I can. I have cleaned it and kept it lubed. So I can't say whether it runs dirty and dry or not.

Great video, very informative. I'm definitely interested possible future purchase. I think what caught my interest the most was the recoil seemed straight back and limited muzzle flip. Getting on target with a follow-up shot important for a duty or home defense pistol. Thank you for a great video Tim.

@Militaryarmschannel

11 ай бұрын

It is a very flat shooting pistol.

I was looking for a duty style polymer gun and was trying to decide between the P320, PDP, and P10F but I went to one ofthe Springfield test fire events and won an Echelon in a raffle! So it’s definitely worth it for free lol.

@Redrobin-ms8fr

11 ай бұрын

That ain't fair brother! LOL. I went to a test fire event also and was hoping for the rest of the day that I won the raffle but to no avail. I was very impressed with the small amount of time I had with it on the range. Having some finance issues prevents me from purchasing one right now so the raffle was my only hope. At the end of the day I was a jilted lover waiting by the phone for the call that never came. But I'm glad that you were able to win yours. ENJOY!

I appreciate this video thanks

Wonder how many pistols Springfield sent out to guntubers. It was a bunch!!!

@georgekirby3361

11 ай бұрын

And all with a rmr, x300 and safari land holster. $$$.

@bryanduchane2371

11 ай бұрын

​@@georgekirby3361probably got a decent deal on the RMRs because of their new product release,

@talkingrock7011

11 ай бұрын

No more than another company promoting a new product , nuff said

@FluffyBunnyArsenal

11 ай бұрын

Same with the new Trijicons. lol Although, despite the controversy with Springfield, due to all the positive reviews (paid and non-paid) I couldn't help myself and bought one. As for the Trijicon, it's still TBD.

@Puddin127

11 ай бұрын

Stop. Every company does this lol. I don’t have a horse in this race but EVERYTHING about Springfield gathers these comments lol. That’s called marketing just like Trijicon did yesterday with the new optics and just like the next company does. You don’t like a product or company, don’t watch the vid. Simple.

Put about 100 rounds through some yesterday. Yes, you definitely have to smack the backstrap into place. Other than that critique, if you could call it one,, I loved it with both the u-shaped rear and hi-viz front as well as the assortment of red dot sights that were available.

If it can be broken, you are the ONE to break it!!!!

I hope so ! I chose this one ! But i do admit it has a positive feel about it so far

The profile of the Echelon reminds me of the Remington RP9, which was a good shooter too bad it was associated with Remington. On the Echelon, I do like the "wings" that are cut into the rear of the slide for sling shot racking.

I've been thinking about picking this up. I have the Hellcat pro, which I love after lightening the trigger pull.

@thedewdster

23 күн бұрын

I def noticed the smoother trigger when i handled both in store. Def worth the extra 100 bucks plus its just a nicer gun to shoot in general. As long as you're not thinking about carrying the echelon just might be THE ONE.

Just out of curiosity I tried and it fits a PDP holster pretty well also.

Great informative video. Thank you for sharing your review.

@Militaryarmschannel

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching.

I’m looking forward to shooting one of these pistols. My favorite is the hk vp 9. Shot that for years.

Good, thx

I love my Springfield XD pistols. However, they had problems when they were released. I hope they get this one right because the Echelon looks great.

@davidfennick1720

10 ай бұрын

XD reputation never recovered from the initial rollout, even though Springfield constantly improved it.

I bought one on release day and I love it. It feels great in my hand and shoots great. Put a Swampfox green dot on it, and have about 600 rounds through it, no failures yet. I'm looking forward to the frame, slide, and barrel variations coming soon.

I just picked one up mounted a holosun 507c x2 green dot and a tlr 1 and cannot wait to play with it! I'm a SIG HK guy but really love the feel of this one only some rounds down range will tell for sure

@lelievrenicolas7632

7 ай бұрын

Can you use the mecanic sight with the 507c x2?

🤣🤣LoL 15:27 reminds of a Quote my dearly departed dad use to say...."When all else fails read the instructions/manual" 😉

Got one two weeks ago and have put about 300 rounds through it. Great gun, equal to HK, Walther or Canik. Superior to Glock or Smith. But of course I love Glocks and Smiths also.

I understand all the baloney that the gun industry has to go through, but I think one of the big problems with plastic structure fired handguns is not the fact that they don't work or are they're not good to shoot. It's that they cost 3 times as much as they should.

I own one , Very impressed with it

I love your terminology (dingus) lol. Great video as always thanks again for your reviews. You have helped me make many decisions on whether to buy or not to buy.

@tyrantworm7392

11 ай бұрын

Dingus is a Cooperism, though may have been used prior to him that I'm not aware of.

My 3 dot model is on the way already Have a Springfield victor saint and have never had 1 malfunction or issue with it yet, so I am expecting good things

Great show. I'm ordering mine later this week. Thank you.

Great review of the beat pistol available at this time. Glock and Sig Sauer have s9ke catching up to do.

I'm definitely interested in one.

Maybe that pin on that grip was design as a tool? 17:52

Would like one, but King Pritzker says we can't have any 17-round mags so till they offer 15ers or we win in court it won't happen. 😢

@Steelcurtain75

2 ай бұрын

They have a 15 rounder.

I bought my a few days ago and I can't wait to go the range to shoot it. I like the fact you can generally mount almost any optic without using a mounting plate. Now trijicon is releasing the RMR HD and RCR got me really interested. But for now I'm going to wait, because we all know once there's a new optic is released and gains huge attention. They're either sold out or on backorder.

@jollygreen4662

8 ай бұрын

How u like it at the range ?

@tlee1982

8 ай бұрын

@@jollygreen4662 the ergonomics on the pistol is nice. I like it as far. Shooting it is feels like the G17, but feels better in my hands. I did replace my mags with Taran Tactical mag extensions, because they feel more solid than stock ones. Overall it’s a good option with more features than the stock Glock.

I love the look, features and ergonomics of this pistol. I’m going to wait for it to be out for a while and see if any issues arise and if not, this just may replace my Glock 45 as my new duty weapon. Hopefully they release one in FDE like the Hellcat. I carried a first gen M&P for a few years and liked it, but I when I started seeing the triggers fail I went back to Glock. Hopefully this new Echelon is a game changer.

I like the deep slide cuts and the VP9 ears. I only have one full size pistol, so I'm definitely buying an Echelon if I see one at me LGS.

@antilaw9911

10 ай бұрын

You will like it! I bought one today. Was going to get another Vp9 to replace one I regretfully sold, then I saw this. Not sure about other videos, but the trigger on this Echelon is killer!! To me it feels like 4lbs and the travel and reset is extremely short. The gun does not flinch when you pull the trigger. Springfield definitely got the trigger right on this one!!

@Lexman00

10 ай бұрын

@@antilaw9911 Got one last week, already shot 400 rounds through it. Not a single failure. It feels great in my hand, and I like the trigger a lot too. I look forward to buying the compact version too.

Getting one of these. I was close to getting a Shadow systems but this one is too good to pass up.

Great gun. Definitely best SA/Croatia product💪❤️

I'm going to have to pick one up.

The pin on the inside of the backstrap looks like all you need for disassembly. No extra tools. I don't have one of these, but they certainly look like somebody has put some thought into them.

I’m diggin it…I have the longslide trp and 4” emp ccc also…hunt with the 10mm trp and put hurtin on 2 bucks

this is prolly my favorite modern design

I would like to see a complete break down of this pistol. How many tools do you need and how long it will take and parts availability.

I'd like to see when they come out with the different frame sizes and slide/barrel lengths

People Echelon broke the internet!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

The only thing i like of this gun is the optic mounting system i couldn't care less for the "modularity" i think it only serves me if i damage my lower somehow and need to replace it is not serialized on this modular guns but that's the only case for me

It's a customized Glock that doesn't take Glock mags! SA is dead to me until they do something significant to apologize for their betrayal to the 2A.

@blahorgaslisk7763

11 ай бұрын

If you call that a Glock clone then the Glock is a VP70 clone that doesn't take VP70 magazines as the VP70 was released over ten years before the Glock.

@ActualHumanPerson

11 ай бұрын

All guns before and after are clones of the 1911.

@blahorgaslisk7763

11 ай бұрын

@@ActualHumanPerson All guns both before and after are inferior copies of the guns John Moses Browning designed!

@AUGUSTUSHEYLIGER-bq7zz

7 ай бұрын

Get over it

@Gieszkanne

3 ай бұрын

Beside that its striker fired it doesnt have much to do with Glock.

I like your ring. I had the same one in my youth. Need to find it. :)

I hope they will sell a 15-round compact frame and 15 round magazines but can use the full-size slide and barrel still. You only need to buy the more compact grip frame and use shorter mags. Use sleeves on the longer mags. That way, we got a Glock 19 grip frame without having to buy a complete slide, barrel, and another optic, but grip frame won’t print on CCW, anymore.

Thank you. Didn't hear you mention the nice textured gas pedal it has for support thumb. IMO, if you plan to come out with a polymer nowadays, it better have FCU COG, whatever

@robertm1692

9 ай бұрын

He starts talking about it at @6:10

The more video reviews I see on this pistol, the more I want to buy one

I like the soft case way better than the hard case: because it gives making it easy to store. You can throw it in a backpack.

@03:35 nice hammer pairs!

So many options for a 9mm carry gun these days. I picked up a Walther PDP and really like it, especially because Walther will mail you free of charge an adaptor plate of your choosing.

@fortyfive4632

11 ай бұрын

Fair - but even better would be including multiple adapter plates as many others do in the box.

@timunderbakke8756

11 ай бұрын

@@fortyfive4632that just drives up the cost of the box.

@milsurprifles6346

11 ай бұрын

Agreed, I love my PDP. But I have to say, it took more than 2 weeks after going on their website to get the friggin’ mounting plate. Hardly “optics ready”…in fact, it was highly frustrating to me. But the gun itself is fantastic. 👍

@socmonki

11 ай бұрын

I got my PDP when they were running the optic promotion for the Ameriglo Haven. Wasn't sure if I was actually going to enjoy the gun but I took a chance. It has become a favorite. Full size, 4" barrel, it's a little snappy but nothing crazy. The ergos make it easy to control. Slapped the dot on it, put on some XS co-witness sights, and it's a tack driver. We'll see how long the dot lasts, but for free it's actually decent. If it breaks I'll probably replace it with a Holosun as I've been impressed with my 507k's durability, even after yeeting itself off my Delta's slide one time...operator error LOL

The Gauntlet for this please!

I'll buy one when they come out with a G19/compact version.

@jdl9679

11 ай бұрын

Hellcat pro

The reason Glock put a lip on the front of the mag instead of the pinch method is so you could use your duty belt or a pocket/belt to strip the mag. You can't do that with the pinch method. We are issued the G17 Gen5 with the cutout on the base of the front of the grip people were complaining "Pinched their pinkies" (Never had an issue with pinching pinkies) for the purpose of stripping mags one handed.

Good review..OK. One thing I missed is what about the or a “Striker Block” as Sig still as it’s problems in this area. Again good review.

I am wondering if this will come out in 10mm. When you mentioned those crapoy Uncle Mike holsters almost had a flash back 😂

Beautiful gun, i love it.

Thinking about those raised edges that make racking the slide easier, I'd be curious to see this in a more compact size and how well new shooters/women will be able to rack the slide. Might be a good firearm to train new shooters with.

@DangerouzDillon

11 ай бұрын

Closest thing right now would be the Hellcat Pro. Echelon is basically a full size Hellcat.

@84kjk

11 ай бұрын

Idk why every gun wouldn’t have very small cutout or wings at the back of the slide. I don’t need it bc I’m a 39 year old man, but older people or weak women it’s a huge help.

Yey! Another polymer pistol. And we love it!

Let’s wait to see how it shakes out but it is a very interesting new platform , and MAC you need to let it go about SAI I am sure you’ve done things in your life you regret just like the rest of us !

It's NOT from Springfield, it's from HS Croatia.. the same company that produces the 'Hellcat' and the 'Helion'.

@TheTactical6string

11 ай бұрын

that give me comfort as i love my XD's.

I was waiting for this review.

Good looking gun

I had a Shadow Systems XR920 and I'm never buying another one. Issues on issues. The Echelon is actually going to replace it. Springfield made a hell of a gun.

My buddy just put a holosun scs p320 on his echelon …I was like that’s weird…😂 But man it looks good on it!!!

Love to see a 4-in. 10mm with a minimum 15+1 capacity along with 20-22 rd magazines.

@TheGennessy

10 ай бұрын

With a compact frame on top of that too? YES YES YES I WOULD BE SOLD TOO

I’m pretty sure that the Echelon is the new Gold Standard. If there is such a thing as a “Glock Killer”, this is it.

@Ni999

11 ай бұрын

Ok so saying "Glock killer" translates to "opportunity to market Glock here on a competing product." That ensures that Glock can not die. And on a more serious note, and not to start an argument and nothing personal, who actually cares about that?

@InfamousTub

11 ай бұрын

@@Ni999Found the triggered glock owner

@Ni999

11 ай бұрын

@@InfamousTub Absolutely incorrect. I'm just tired of having to hear about Glock every time a new gun is reviewed. Seeing as how you want to get into it and pass out insults about it, I doubt that you have any idea what I'm talking about. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@InfamousTub

11 ай бұрын

@@Ni999 Yeah man, because what you're saying is rocket science. Us mere mortals can't begin to comprehend the depths of your intellect.

@Ni999

11 ай бұрын

@@InfamousTub That you decided that meant I'm a Glock owner proves it went over your head. No need to rag on me over what normal people get that you can't. You had your chance to prove me wrong and you decided to show off that I was right instead. Quit before you make yourself look any worse.

I like that it is completely ambidextrous something they should have done with the Hellcat and the Hellcat pro.

Springfield: Makes a pistol that's a mix between the XD Mod.2, Hellcat, VP9, and with improvements on the Sig P320 system. Guntubers: It lOoKs LiKe a gLocK cLoNe

@fiditenemini2452

11 ай бұрын

kel-tec & steyr had fcu looong before sig...

Everytime Mac says Glockish, an Angel gets its wings.