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@mailgaga4330

6 ай бұрын

As great as your content is I just cant't watch your vids anymore. Your transitions hurt my brain. Really. For me they are highly disturbing. No idea why I can't process them. I wish you wouldn't chose these flickering transitions

@amotriuc

6 ай бұрын

If you are making historical video be more precise on your wording. Ex: Soviet Union was not just Russians. So, when you say Russian did this or that and not Soviet Union you exclude 50% of Soviet Union population. As well I as well I think you do exaggerate how far ahead was Soviet Union in the space race. Soviet Union was ahead of US due to building the first big rocket before US due to priority (they had big nuclear bombs they needed big rockets) and they fully banked that advantage. This was not true anymore for the moon landing race. I would not call this huge advantage.

@-danR

6 ай бұрын

@@amotriuc Russian ≈ Soviet was, and remains, a very common writing convention, even in more formal writing. And more to topic: "When talking about the *Russian space program* , there is a misconception in the West that it was centralized." (--Scientific American, July 2009. The Moon Landing through Soviet Eyes: A Q&A with Sergei Khrushchev, son of former premier Nikita Khrushchev. By Saswato R. Das) This is very pertinent, given that fact that Segei was the son of _Ukrainian_ Premier of the USSR, Nikita.

@-danR

6 ай бұрын

Allow me another nitpick: "...would be powered by a nuclear fission reactor..." 8:30 You're picturing a nuclear _fusion_ reactor there. Albeit it's a nice touch for the topic inasmuch as the tokamak design was first conceptualized by Igor Tamm and Andrei Sakharov

@amotriuc

6 ай бұрын

@@-danRif you just talk to someone randomly using Russian ≈ Soviet is completely fine, but I don't think this is rigorous enough if you try to do describe history. You should not leave space for misinterpretation.

Ive been saying this for months, if apollo continued and nasa still got funded as it was back then, we would already have a mars colony and a moon city!!

@Clone683

6 ай бұрын

People in the 60s thought we'd have been to outer planets by now. They'd be very disappointed

@RazvanYON

6 ай бұрын

​@@Clone683yeah, just because countries thought winning a stupid war was more important than our future as an interplanetary species

@Patrick-sj9ol

6 ай бұрын

We are the greatest problem solvers yet humanity is fighting merely its own problems. It is not obvious that we will ever reach out to other planets, it needs a special Zeitgeist to be able to, not just technological progress. Hopefully this time around it will not just be about who plants the next flag.

@fl00fydragon

6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the US would rather do tax cuts for the corporate feudal lords so they can have an extra yacht per year, thus requiring the defunding of programs deemed as "non essential", rather than push humanity forwards to a better future.

@freeze1337.

6 ай бұрын

​@@RazvanYON its true

It really sucks the Space Race just kinda stopped after Apollo

@AmauryJacquot

6 ай бұрын

well, the powers that be decided to do the vietnam war instead... we all know how that went...

@thatonecommie8351

6 ай бұрын

After the moon landing, both sides began cooperating more than competing. Just a few years later, a Soyuz and an Apollo CSM would dock marking the world's first international docking in space. Almost 20 years later, both sides would begin Shuttle-Mir, where the US space shuttle docked with the Russian Mir station, and shortly after the ISS would start going up. Both sides began helping eachother out to better spaceflight as a whole, rather than constantly trying to be first for something new and rushing and inevitably losing lives.

@russellharrell2747

6 ай бұрын

Human space flight isn’t that great. We’ve done amazing things with unmanned missions to every planet in the solar system and many minor planets including the dwarf planets Pluto and Ceres. Our space telescopes have changed our view of the universe, and we’ve discovered thousands of Exoplanets thanks to Kepler. Sure I’d love for humans to go out there as far as we can go, but it’s not necessary to push before we have the proper infrastructure and robust vehicles.

@Isaac-eh6uu

6 ай бұрын

​@@russellharrell2747yeah that much is understood but ultimately worth while projects were completely abandoned. The people who worked on them are long gone and we regressed when it comes to manned flights. We should have pushed more. You get the most progress through trial and error. Just doing a little bit does way more then nothing.

@hihihihihello

5 ай бұрын

Moon landings are fake people wake up

The description of the N1's intended use shows how clever NASA was with their redocking approach. Saturn V and the Apollo modules had fewer stages and fewer steps. That means more efficiency and fewer risk factors to account for

@terrystevens5261

5 ай бұрын

The Germans are known for their efficiency.

@hihihihihello

5 ай бұрын

Cringe

@mi1400

Ай бұрын

But as vid say US landed so many times it got bored ... why didnt US build some station on moon ... maybe even smaller/simpler but just to close the chapter what russians were wet-dreaming!?!

@gregmatin5187

Ай бұрын

It's all a scam! No one has been to the moon! There are no satellites. It's all a scam! Wake up people!

@AlexRyne

19 күн бұрын

IIRC, Korolev himself said that his design is insufficient piece of shit, and smaller amount of bigger engines would work better. But the government didn't get any money and time to develop new engines.

Whoa. I thought it was a mistake but it kept happening. that out-of-focus-fast-jumble-transition is like poking your viewers in the eyes. Omg you keep doing it.

You showed a picture of a nuclear fusion reactor but said the soviets planned to build a fission reactor.

@rdelrosso1973

5 ай бұрын

Good catch.

Space Race: "Not with a bang" Also Space Race: "It was the largest non-nuclear explosion in human history"

Those transitions hurt. Everything else is amazing, but they make me wanna flip the table.

Great video @TheSpaceRaceYT -interesting and educational. But I’m kind of surprised you got through it all without mentioning For All Mankind (Apple TV+), which showed what could have happened if the Soviets got to the moon first, even focusing on the Zvezda moon base. Anyone interested in what *could* have been would get an interesting glimpse at it in that show.

@chammockutube

6 ай бұрын

Exactly my thoughts! For All Mankind is awesome!!!

@billygoat520

5 ай бұрын

This video is mostly nonsense. The Russians who do not live in urban areas have carpeting to their bathroom but it is 100 meters from their bedroom and a cold walk at that.

@Aibo-cx9gw

5 күн бұрын

Russia / Soviet could never have reached the Moon first, they knew they were behind. And that is part of the story why they rushed things so badly not only with the N1, but also with the Lunniy korabyl lander which was lacking in several respects - and the extended Soyuz was not even built! For them coming second to the Moon did not matter - and therefore they cancelled the program entirely. Later on, they actually did do parts of the follow up program of a manned mission to Mars - manned flight without landing, the Cosmonauts would instead land remote controlled vehicles, and possibly do one excursion to Phobos. There was a lot of vapourware also in those plans. The launch vehicle for that was the even more powerful Energia. Which did fly with one successful flight and one failed.

Korolev had numerous health problems stemming from his time in the Gulags the operation he underwent was an exploratory operation that discovered a large tumour on his colon the surgeon attempted to remove it but Korolev didn't survive. Korolev was a high profile patient even though he was not famous in his own lifetime so his Surgeon was the Russian Surgeon General Boris Petrovski

@gargoyle7863

5 ай бұрын

Penalty for having health issues because of gulag: gulag!

@dukecraig2402

5 ай бұрын

In Mother Russia you must watch when in Gulag you don't suffer from unauthorized docking procedure when in bathing room, it can unfortunately lead to future problems.

@bigianh

5 ай бұрын

@@dukecraig2402 Bathing room? This was the Soviet Gulags a bath room would have been luxury generally you were lucky if you got to sleep somewhere that had a roof. Korolev lost 5 stones and all of his teeth during his stay in the Gulag and was never the same again. On the other hand he's the only person who was sent to the Gulags that subsequently received the "Order of Lenin" and he won that twice

i always thought that the soviets just had a handful of unmanned probes to the moon, never knew more than this

@fjallavindur

6 ай бұрын

They were the first in space until the Apollo mission. The first man in space, the first landing of probes on the Moon, Venus and Mars and much more.

@sfsstuff

6 ай бұрын

@@fjallavindur yea, I was just talking about their lunar program, but most of their mars missions failed I think

@Vorpal_Wit

6 ай бұрын

@@sfsstuff The vast mojority of all missions to Mars have failed. Its notoriously hard.

@user-vo8zx2uj1p

6 ай бұрын

@@Vorpal_Wit and then there's china, first try, one launch with 1 probe 1 rover and 1 orbiter, complete success, really impressive.

@535phobos

6 ай бұрын

​@@user-vo8zx2uj1pThey are standing on the shoulders of giants. Still, impressive to do it first try.

I loved the " For all mankind "show just to see how things could of been different if the space race went differently and we kept pushing

I really enjoyed this episode. Thank you.

Every time I see these videos talking about who was first in space and what side was planning to do, it just haves me always thinking about what would happen if they just ended up working together instead of just by them self. But to be honest even if Coralv lived and help change how N1 preformed, it'll probably still be him and Glo's to be head budding over who's is better and may lead to another rocket to challenge N1. But it'll also be a question how long they would be able to stay there and what would they actually use that place for?

@johnmcglynn4102

6 ай бұрын

If they were both working together both countries would not have been competing and governmental inertia plus the political difficulties of planning together would have slowed the effort to get to the moon by decades. Take a look at NASA's Constellation program vs. Space X Starliner, and then add the difficulty of the communication between the US and Russia that would have been necessary to pull off a moon landing. Endiless discussion and consensus building.

@kaiserwhence2468

6 ай бұрын

That scenario has been made into a series called For all Mankind

@unnamedchannel1237

5 ай бұрын

That's the thing, nothing would happen. The reason both sides were progressing so quickly as they were racing against each other. You would think that everybody working together would be more efficient but it reduces innovation .

@rdelrosso1973

5 ай бұрын

@@kaiserwhence2468 I watched "For All Mankind" on Apple TV In that Alternative History series, the Soviets land on the Moon first, in June 1969, beating us by about 30 days! We and the USSR are NOT "working together". We still have separate programs.

@embededfabrication4482

5 ай бұрын

Nothing, it's a waste of time going there, current spacefaring tech is a joke, all the efforts should go towards fusion

Love it, this remains one of my favorite channels! 💜

Thanks for the history lesson Didn’t know much about this

Followed the channel for a while.... One of your best video's to date. 😊

Thank you. This is a brilliant video.

Wow i never knew that! great video!

The N1 seems very similar in critical path to Starship.

@stainlesssteelfox1

6 ай бұрын

There are some parallels, yes. Where the Saturn V stages were built and underwent extensive individual testing before being shipped to the launch site for integration, the N1, like Starship Suoerheavy was built at the launch site, with only the engines being shipped in as completed units. This was partly because there was no way to transport a 17m diameter rocket stage over any great distance, as Russia's rail network was inadequate to the task, and no aircraft even close. Barges couldn't be used. Also, both the N1 and Starship used a large number of smaller engines to achieve massive thrust, rather than a few large engines like the Saturn V. This allows large numbers to be built in production line fashion, and ease of installation, at the cost of increased flow complexity in the exhaust, plumbing needed and controlling the engines together. However, there are major differences which hopefully mean that SpaceX will succeed where the USSR failed. First, testing. Only two in six of the NK-15 engines were tested and not the ones actually being used as they used one shot pyrotechnics to open valves, which meant they could not be turned off after activation. Likewise, the stages of the N1 could not be test fired individually or as a stack before launch. By comparison, every Raptor engine is tested, and both Superheavy and Starship stages are tested before use. As far as we know, while the Raptor V1 may have had problems, no V2 has failed due to malfunction. They've failed due to other factors. Second, improved computer technology. This is big, the KORD (KOntrol Raketnykh Dvigateley) computer that was designed to control the N1's many engines, while cutting edge, was not up to the task of handling fault situations like a turbo-pump exploding. No 1960's computer could have simulated the complex flow mechanics, so the only way to test the programming was to launch. By comparison, modern computer systems are far more sophisticated, from simulations to monitoring and telemetring every component and managing insanely complex systems. Three, quality control and iteration. SpaceX is always looking to improve the Starship design, testing, upgrading, and testing again. Fifty years of improving quality control processes may also play a part. By comparison, the Soviet system was fundamentally authoritarian. Finding a fault would be tantamount to saying your boss/fellow worker has made a mistake, which gets you no friends in a society based on collective action. Add to that the difficulty of testing in the first place and you can see how something like the N1 would have trouble. The design was brilliant, the execution less so, especially under Mishkin. But even so, the first two launches of Starship have both failed, you cry out, eager to puncture my thesis. But look at how they failed. The first launch suffered problems due to FOD from the launch pad just not being able to take it. Even so it got further along it's mission path than any N1, including passing Max Q. Remaining engines and computers held up despite failures. The second launch had a flawless first stage launch and stage separation. It blew up only after the flip manouvre to return to launch site, something that had never been tested. Some complex interaction, possibly shock hammer or fuel slosh starved the engines and then caused damage. The second stage flew almost all the way to orbit, but was pottentially damaged during the hot staging manoevvre, another thing that hadn't been tested, as it was apparently losing oxygen. The last and most important difference is support. SpaceX is committed to making Starship work, and has the funding and infrstructure to keep going, even if they do blow up a dozen more vehicles in the process. By comparison, after the Apollo missions succeeded, the N1 was a vehicle without a purpose. They had two more units ready that could have continued testing, but it was abandoned instead.

@tilmerkan3882

6 ай бұрын

Five stages vs two. Focus on reusability and refueling instead of one big shot... there are zero similaritys except the number of engines.

@artexloop8692

5 ай бұрын

​@@stainlesssteelfox1ain't nobody reading your essay lil bro

@hihihihihello

5 ай бұрын

Cringe

Oh we have pretty good idea what would happen if Soviets got to the moon first. It's called For All Mankind and it's absolute banger of a TV serie

The entire purpose of Apollo was the feasibility of basing ICBMs on the moon for a guaranteed 2nd strike capability. Apollo was supposed to run through the mid 1990s, eventually switching from the Saturn V to the more powerful Nova around Apollo 30. Another fun fact, the Saturn V was built with a 4th stage, this stage was for missions to Mars.

Great video, however beyond fixing the N-1 issues the Soviets would never have been able to land multiple Lunar landing modules within the same hundred mile area at the time this was happening. I actually wish the N-1 had been successful because it possibly could have caused Congress to approve the final three Apollo flights and maybe we could have performed an American/Soviet flight on one of those. Talk about history.

And watching Elons Starship stuff , the N1 story kinds gives you chills..

Creating the biggest non nuclear explosion is an really unexpected achievement And it could have been much worse, because block b and c did by an incredible chance not explode

@sjsomething4936

5 ай бұрын

The Soviet Union was known for making very impressively large things, seems to have been an obsession of their leaders. Often impressively big messes, but in this case it was an explosion *AND* a mess.

@danielescobar7618

5 ай бұрын

It beats the black Tom explosion in Jersey city in WW1? This was a shipping/train yard sabotage by a famous German spy that leveled the dredgepile and industrial park next to the port which is now known as liberty State Park

Thanks. I was unaware of N1 launches 3 and 4.

Great video, thanks a lot.

interesting 'what if'' but it was Serge Korolev's death in 1966 which sealed the fate of this mission. Getting the N1's 32 rockets to fire together and fly straight was something the Soviets could not master (Hence the two disastrous launches). Korolev might have found a way but ti was not to be.

If the Soviet chief engineer of their space program, Sergei Korolev, had not, strangely enough, died in a simple stomach operation in january 1966, the Soviets might also have been first in the field, ahead of the US. Sergei Korolev, just like Wernher von Braun in the USA, had a vision that we humans would establish ourselves in space. Both were unique individuals, were brilliant engineers and had the unusual ability to get many different people to work together on the same goal. Sadly, Wernher von Braun also passed away to early, a few years later, from kidney cancer in June 1977. With both visionaries dead, the air went out of both the Soviet and American space programs. What the world needs today are visionaries like Sergei Korolev and Wernher von Braun.

@IraRabinowitz

2 ай бұрын

Wernher von Braun, a Nazi SS member, had slave labor in the Dora-Mittelbau concentration camp build the V1 and V2 rockets. Under Operation Paperclip, the US looked the other way and recruited him and thousands of other Nazi scientists for their expertise.

3:54 i like your use of KSP.

Literally THE DEFINITION of going out with a bang

Love your videos! Would be great for AUD pricing options on the site so I could get some merch.

Wow I see a lot of inspiration for the spacex booster

Was good soviet plan comarade! Excpet we had to stand in line for 3 hours to get oxygen, many people suffocated waiting. The toilet paper line was only 1 hour long.

Excellent videos

Just imagine if Korolev didn't die early and Soviets would have succeeded with N1 rocket, the race would continue for decades longer and we would have got lunar bases at least.

Had Russian gone with the UR-700 and not tried to build the N-1, they might have won.

@fjallavindur

6 ай бұрын

They might have won with N1 if they managed to rotate central ring of the engines like Starship and not turn off engines. But the problem was still a cpu to control whole process, they didn't have it back then. Yeah if they sticked with RD-270 engines for UR-700 rocket, maybe they flew to the Moon

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@TheSpaceRaceYT

6 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you! This really means a lot and glad to hear you're enjoying the videos we put so much time and effort into :)

@billygoat520

5 ай бұрын

How much were you paid to say that.

@indiangamerz3788

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheSpaceRaceYTlove and respect to you from India as well man,amazing man,it would have been marvelous for both us and soviets to build bases on mars and moon ,by now you guys would have had moon coties or bades with millions of population there,but as mations were wasting resources in unnecessary wars which didnt make any sense

@indiangamerz3788

5 ай бұрын

*cities or bases

@indiangamerz3788

5 ай бұрын

And 2nd comment is thats why there was a setback in terms of technology

Great story!👏🏼👏🏽

8:33 That's not a nuclear fission reactor ! It's a Tokamac...Fusion experiment...

Well considering we are supposed to be living like the Jetsons according to how the 50’s & 60’s had it what was possible. It’s very sad we could stop fighting ourselves over stupidity.

No ,that was from a company intranet. Something started to show a livefeed from the moon.

Korolev didn't want to work around hypergolic fuels due to the fact that they are extremely poisonous if memory serves me correctly.

Don't forget the Soviet Luna remote controlled rover .

6 ай бұрын

Lunokhod 1 and 2.

@kennypool

6 ай бұрын

@ How can someone do a "documentary" and not have all the facts.

@bobmusil1458

6 ай бұрын

@@kennypool Because it’s not relevant to the space race. It happened after the US had landed with astronauts on the Moon for several times.

@kennypool

6 ай бұрын

@@bobmusil1458 get some sleep, your very cranky

@terrystevens5261

5 ай бұрын

Lunokhod was mentioned in the video.@@kennypool

Subscribed!

2:31 None of N-1's engines were gimballed. The control was by throttling the trust of the outer rim engines.

So, in summary... 1) If NASA would have continued on, we would now have a permanant manned base on the moon. 2) Russia is directly responsible for creating a few small craters on the earth. Creating a permanant base on the moon and supplying it with essentials would be a big (and expensive) endeavor. Trying to do the same on Mars would be several magnitudes more difficult. The moon is always there, less than 1/4 million miles away. Mars, on the other hand, varies in distance from around 40 million miles to 230 million miles, with their closest distance occuring only every 26 months. Supplying a moon base would be a challenge, but doing the same with Mars would be a challenge several magnitudes greater. Of course, reverse engineering some of the craft Bob Lazar once worked on would help close the gap. BHE

Uhhhh the planned soviet moon trains... did they plan to use standard track design and rely on weight and friction of the wheels on the smooth metal tracks? Pretty sure there would be some distinct issues there.

At the 14:50 mark -- the LARGEST non-nuclear explosion in history! That's pretty Awesome. But as for the "70 Years" reference -- -That means the Soviets began planning the Moon Base in 1953 ? Or 4 years before Sputnik? That's hard to believe!

8:32 speaks about nuclear fission, presents fushion reactor LOL

14:28 "Do you know the definition of insanity ?"

It a lot cheaper and easier to make a movie.

I wouldn’t trust a Russian school bus let alone a moon base.

@rdelrosso1973

5 ай бұрын

And Russian TV sets in the 1960s would also blow up!

@terrystevens5261

5 ай бұрын

Nasa have been using Russian rocket engines for more than 20 years though.

@gagarinone

5 ай бұрын

It's funny that Soviet rocket engines are still used to launch US military satellites. Jeff Bezo has yet to get the replacement to work reliably.

@timur3505

16 күн бұрын

Are you dumb or something? There is ISS with Russian modules, and the whole MIR stattion before that.

@timur3505

16 күн бұрын

@@rdelrosso1973 😱 So how you survived? With brain damage?

The statement was fission reactor, the picture was of a fusion reactor.

not any crazier than NASA honestly, man they were so much more optimistic back then!

1:52 lol you can say this about every failed project ever. "It would have been awesome if only it didn't suck so bad."

@TheSpaceRaceYT >>> Great video...👍

TV show 'For all Mankind' on Apple TV explores this 'what if' alternative history of the space race. First 2 series are worth a watch. Series 3 was awaful and have to see what they do with series 4 which is out now

@robsalvv5853

6 ай бұрын

Agree first two are worth a watch. Haven’t seen 3rd series yet… doesn’t sound promising based on your feedback?! lol

@somerandomdude1552

6 ай бұрын

I liked the 3rd season, though it does veer more into sci fi than the earlier 2

This really sounds like they where being sabotaged and had not discovered the mole

Just using the normal crew department without using the complete internal space of the rocket would give us already almost the same amount of pressurized space as the ISS. I think as a start this would be already a great station.

The same would have happened under Korolev. The Soviets didnt do full engine combustion run of the N1 on a test stand, so they would do iterative development by launching and seeing what happens.

@amotriuc

6 ай бұрын

Agree, they were behind at that time, US starred development of the F1 engine before the moon program started. Soviets didn't have anything equivalent in the works and had to take serios shortcuts to catch up.

@davevann9795

6 ай бұрын

The N1 could not be test-fired without replacing ALL of the engines afterward. The main engines were designed so they could only be fired once. Decades later, the leftover unused N1 main engines were sold to a US company, that had some launch failures because of engine failures.

@55stryker

3 ай бұрын

@@amotriuc So far behind that the U.S. is still using Soviet engines.

@amotriuc

3 ай бұрын

@@55stryker The engines that US uses from Russia are not the exactly the same as the ones from N1 rocker. The ones used in N1 rocket were not properly finished yet. Korolev did complain about it himself.

Korilov's death and the Apollo 1 disaster are to me the turning point of the space race. Korilov was an absolute genius, but the others around him not so much. N1 may have failed even if he lived, but there was no chance after he died The deaths of Grissom, Chaffee, and White created a giant change in how NASA did business as expressed by Gene Kranz's "Failure is not an option.” I think choosing quality at all costs versus expediency is what turned the corner. Greatly oversimplified, but it gets the gist of it Another issue for the Soviets was how overcomplicated the N1 was. 5 stages, 25 boosters on the first? Think of igniting all of them, not to mention keeping them in the correct position. It also required 10 million pounds of thrust to get less to the moon than Apollo. No wonder it had a 100% failure rate. Compare that to the Saturn V. Five engines on the first stage, three stages total with the third able to reignite.with some minor technicalities, it had a 100% success rate. In the space race, the Americans failed hard at first, but learned. I always thought it was more compelling that we endured lots of humiliation at the hands of the Soviets, but finally succeeded where it counted. It's just a shame we stopped there.

These questions are probably the exact reason why we have the show 'For All Mankind'.

Thanks for insight into some history. Looks all too familiar to todays age, all things old are made new.

It was never going to succeed. Not only could they not afford to test all the engines all together at one time, but they couldn't even test every engine on its own.

@davevann9795

6 ай бұрын

The N1 main engine design was for single-fire engines. After test firing, the N1 main engines would all need to be replaced.

Right, and if my aunt had balls she would have been my uncle. The USSR was also the first nation to lose people in their space program and how many will never be known. The Russians were also years behind in computer technology, they still are. Belize can draw up plans and say this is what we would like to do on the moon.

A little naive. It wasn't just the booster. There were a thousand technological advances needed to successfully rendezvous and dock in lunar orbit and then accurately and safely land on and take off from the lunar surface, and the Soviets had developed neither the equipment not the training or experience to do so. NASA had patiently and systematically developed all of these through Gemini and Apollo, and it was a stretch even for them. Just thinking about the computers alone-the Soviets had nothing remotely like MIT's onboard Apollo navigation computer-gives me shivers. The Soviets' effort was a desperate, last-ditch kind of stunt from start to finish and would never have gotten close to succeeding, though they might have managed to kill a bunch of cosmonauts in the process. But oh well.

@MichaelWinter-ss6lx

6 ай бұрын

You sound a little over biased. The Russians did have their bord computers, with so called pen-valves or pen-tubes. I find them more reliable, and I would love to build some amplifiers with these. Though the N1 didn't work, the Russian space program is continueasly functioning since 1957. If any problems arrise, cosmonauts can hand-steer their Sojus craft. Something the west has seen only on the Shuttle and I'm not sure if to the same degree. Their landing is somewhat exciting.... Also, when I like saying Apollo was only a tin can, I rather not think about inside a Sojus. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸

@kristiankoski3908

6 ай бұрын

They didn't get to the Moon but Soviet space program by no means stopped after N1 failure. They got the first space station in orbit and they made it to Venus. Especially the Venera program is amazing.

If there did a full thrust test on the N1, they would figured out the issue on day one. Taking shortcuts are really bad and the Soviet Moon program is a great example of that. N1 moon rocket was a great design, plumbing for the engines, not so much but nothing that could not be fixed.

@davevann9795

6 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the N1 main engines used pyrotechnic valves, so the engines could only be fired once. They test-fired 1 in 6 of the engines off the production line, but those tested engines were then scrapped.

That "What if", the Soviets won has been answered in the series "For All Mankind".

I remembered a joke about the race for the Moon: An employee rushes to the director of NASA and shouts: The Russians are painting the Moon red!! The director calmly replies: Don't panic. When they're done, we'll write Coca-Cola on it :)

The sticky wicket on the moon is, two weeks of night, then two weeks of day. Unless they built near a pole. I’d prefer a box in orbit, tho.

The irony of showing a tokamak when saying, “fission reactor”

It is sad to think about how advanced the soviets could had been, had they not fallen apart.

When Sergei Korolev died, it set the soviets WAY back. Such a tragedy.

U forgot the first dog in space.

@MichaelWinter-ss6lx

6 ай бұрын

It didn't survive reentry. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸

This is how world conflicts should be solved, Instead of wars countries should compete like the space race which besides showcasing both sides scientific engineering prowess but also furthering knowledge as a side effect

In the soviets did achieve 100t heavy lift launcher but ofcourse it was too late

Know I've acquired an even deeper understanding of the phrase "It's not rocket science"!

Great informative video. To know a possible outcome if the Soviets had landed on the moon first, watch For All Mankind.

No human has ever walked on the moon period.

it's a good thing that that N-1 Massive Explosion wasn't mistaken as a Nuclear Attack from the US

@hgodtx

15 күн бұрын

Both country's military are well informed of moves each other make.

The N1 had more thrust but…it fucking blew up every time.. thus.. the saturn V was the most powerful rocket during the space race.

THe N1 was an unmitigated disaster. 30 engines?!? Saturn had FIVE and even then they couldn't make all five run perfectly every time. 30 was ludicrous. They built four and all four went kaboom. In recent news, Starship uses 30+ engines and how's that going? Oh yeah they just blew up their own launchpad too. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the problem.

What happened to the Venus landing for the Russian Rover?

Probably want to calm ALL the adverts down before ... i just cant be bothered with site anymore! otherwise ive enjoyed the layout and information

Needing surgery was a very risky thing at that time because both lenin and stalin purged a lot of the most experienced and educated doctors. There was noone to teach or oversee practices at this time. Supposedly both of them could have been saved but there was no one around to do it. Around this time they had students in neutral countries' universities all over

The same Wiki page he quotes when talking about Vasily Mishin, "best remebered for the failures...": Wiki: "He inherited the N1 program, intended to land a man on the Moon, but which turned out to be fatally flawed (largely due to lack of adequate funding)." SO, when talking about the N1 project, money was the limiting factor. Possibly other projects aswell. So, no regime, no materter how strong of a dictatorship is present (Stalin dead for 13 years at that point BTW) would kill the top scientist on a project that's a d*ck measuring contest, and replace him with a dimwit. Narratives.

How would they bury those Moon-Base modules with dirt? Did they bring an excavator? What is the excavator running on, since there is no oxygen atmosphere on the Moon? Or did they bring a shovel?

@iamcase1245

Ай бұрын

The excavator would've likely run on electricity coming from batteries.

@EvenStar303

Ай бұрын

​@@iamcase1245Most definitely.

We're Whaler's on the moon, We carry a harpoon, For they ain't no whales So we tell tall tales And sing our whaling tune.

Like every other tech, the more people we get up there the fater tech will evolve

Back in the day when the budget was plentiful and ambition was past the Karmen Line..plenty of really well thought out plans, little to no political or social will to carry them out once people actually got to the moon. Hopefully this time around things will be different ( for all that commercialization of everything has reduced so many things to trying to squeeze every last cent outta people, it seems like it's the only way we're gonna get things done in space at the moment )

@gagarinone

5 ай бұрын

It seems that humanity needs an external enemy that can unite us towards a common goal. As in the science fiction television series "Space: Above and Beyond".

this is the best channel, learning about russian space turtles alone ill be able to figure out how to use this information to win a bet against moon landing deniers 😂

When I first read the title, I thought the Soviets were planning for the future and building an abandoned moon base so it would never have to be occupied.

The n1 never worked it never completed a first stage burn It made for good fireworks tho

Your opening statement was very ambiguous if not incorrect. If the space race was to see who reached the moon first then yes the Americans won BUT if the space race was to see who reached space first then the Soviets were the clear winners.

@cornpowa

6 ай бұрын

That depends on how you define "reached." Yeah, the soviets put the first man in space, but No-No Germany was the first to get a man-made object into space. Sure it was suborbital, but they still reached space in 1944.

@tekmepikcha6830

6 ай бұрын

@@cornpowa I agree. That's good info.

@bobmusil1458

6 ай бұрын

The US did everything that the Soviet Union did. The Soviet union could not do what the Us did. So the US won.

@MichaelWinter-ss6lx

6 ай бұрын

@cornpowa, Perhaps a bit earlier ? V2 went in series production in 1944. First successfull launch was 1942. In 1944 they were already working on a spy rocket called V2b, the first space shuttle prototype. 2 flights until 1945. Also, work was underway on a 1st stage booster for V2, the A9/A10 rocket. That was supposed to prevent America entering the war. 🚀🏴‍☠️🎸

@gagarinone

5 ай бұрын

@@MichaelWinter-ss6lx Thanks for that interesting information

Sounds like “delete me” is doing what authorities should be doing already

It looks like starship almost

Sounds a lot like starships future

Was it bad luck or sabotage

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