The Sound of the Thracian Greek dialect (Numbers, Greetings, Words & Sample Text)
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Thrace is a historical and geographical region of the Balkans in southeastern Europe and specifically in northeastern Greece. Today, the name Thrace internationally denotes the area that extends from Aimos to the north, the Thracian Sea to the south, the Black Sea and the Propontis to the east and the mountain ranges of Koula and Rila to the west. The Thracian Dialect includes several sub-linguistic idioms originating from the former Northern Thrace (Eastern Rumelia), Eastern Thrace (Constantinople region) and today's Western Thrace. The influences on idioms are due to the occasionally conquering peoples (Turks, Bulgarians) who passed through the regions and are the subject of international study.
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Greetings from the Thracian capital of Komotini, that video was great.
@burundi5427
2 жыл бұрын
Είσαι μουσουλμάνος?
I love Greeks and their splendid language. Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩.
@georgek5737
2 жыл бұрын
Love to you as well from Greece!
Greetings from Alexandria 🖤
Some phrases had an influence from Ancient Greek language
@darius684
2 жыл бұрын
I swear Greek developed from ancient greek
Sounds very cool. Thrace is a very important Ancient Greek region and nowadays shared amongst Greece, Bulgaria and Turkey. Warm greetings to our southern neighbours.
@user-og5of2wc5w
2 жыл бұрын
Thrace were never belong to the ancient greek regions,it belongs to the thracian Odrissian kingdom.
@georgios_5342
2 жыл бұрын
In modern times they only actually use standard modern Greek. Although this would be understood, especially among the elderly, it's not really preferred. Even a hundred years ago people would prefer normal standard Greek, because this dialect is heavily influenced by Turkish it seems. Before the Greek genocide and population exchange, Eastern Thrace was also Greek, and some tens of thousands of Greeks lived in Eastern Rumelia, in Plovdiv (Philippoupoli) and some port cities. Those were exchanged after WW1 with some Bulgarians from Macedonia. So what I'm trying to say is, this dialect was spoken some years ago not just in the majority Greek part of Thrace, but in the rest of it too (although in the Bulgarian part by a minority) so it makes sense that it's been influenced by both Turkish and Bulgarian.
Please make a video with Old Athenian dialect (variety of modern greek). I heard it's still spoken in Megara.
@ylliriaalbania326
Жыл бұрын
Old Athenian is albanian
I think this is a bit exaggerated, but overall a great case study. In the modern day, it's mostly used by older people and again even those speak normal modern Greek most of the time.
@AutonomistCham
2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's spoken by younger people too though. Ask me, 'The Father Of Thracian Rap', a postmodern way of music (old with new).
Informative as always.
your channel is helping me learn a lot of languages! Good luck I love your channel!
Very good video!
I'm from Eastern Thrace which i'm Turkish. It's really interesting, one peninsula, two sides and different languages. I read the comments some greek people talked about how that it's different, it's the same for too us. It's like cultural own language and others can't get of this. You have to live in there for that get it. Loves and greetings to all thracian greeks and normal greeks xd. 🇹🇷🇬🇷
Thracian Greek dialect from Northern Thrace/Eastern Rumelia (today's southeast Bulgaria)
@AutonomistCham
2 жыл бұрын
Right, but it's mixed with words by other thracian places too.
If Greek sounds like Castillian Spanish then this dialect sounds like Catalan (albeit with a castillian accent) 😄
@michale666
2 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like Basque 🤣
@ANTSEMUT1
2 жыл бұрын
@@michale666and some people say the standard Spanish accent comes from the Basque even though I don't hear it.
@robertobahamondeandrade
2 жыл бұрын
It sounds like Spanish too
@keptins
2 жыл бұрын
@@michale666 Definitely Iberian yes 👍
My music teacher is Thracian Greek
It appears to have a richer inventory of consonants than standard modern Greek.
The dressess look really close to the Bulgarian ones
Very Good👍 Please, 🇬🇷Constantinopolitian🇹🇷 Dialect
@mattiamele3015
2 жыл бұрын
It’s Turkish dear.
I always wondered how thracian, dacian languages sounds like( i know they are probably the same or close) but probably we will never find out
@AutonomistCham
2 жыл бұрын
It is not the same, but Thracian Dialect has been affected by the balkan languages for sure.
I hear some of those words every day from my mother as she is from a village outside of komotini. Btw if you'll ever find yourself visiting this beautiful city, give it a try starting with the market area, you can find a really big crossover between greek and turkish/muslim culture and if you are lucky enough, you might encounter and a place that makes Tachini (it is like a fat pasta but from wheat). If you are lucky enough cuz I wasn't. Don't go inside the place where they literally make it though. They won't allow you in. Just go to the shop. Another cool thing about this place is the restoraunts. The most known one in my opinion is called Lahmacun (Lahmajun). Walking around the city's alliways alone is truly a beautiful experience. There are a lot of things to discuss for Komotini and those are only the good stuff.
Hope Turkish dialects will also be featured. I will try to help with the Turkish dialect of Artvin-Ardahan-Akhaltsikhe region.
I can understand some turkish words in these phrases.
@AutonomistCham
2 жыл бұрын
400 years of slavery was too much...
Whenever I hear Greek, I would like to eat Gyros. That food is so delicious!
@newreast3904
2 жыл бұрын
most of greek gyros is manifactured in china and comes frozen(hopefully) in containers... sorry...
I and Greek from Athens and it's so fun haha, I don't believe it!! 😂😂😂😂
@stefanostokatlidis4861
2 жыл бұрын
No it is true, I have heard it.
You did a great job right there! where's the text from?
Very heavy Greek dialect , the accent and pronunciation The Athenian Greek pronunciation is very smooth
Do a video about pelopponesian dialect please
I can understand the Thracian language because it's Greek. 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
It sounds like a typical northern Greek dialect, but with some more Turkish words. You sometimes understand it and other times you lose it. Please make a video about Romani language, a very important language in the Balkans.
Is there ancient thracian language word in this dialect?
I’m greek from athens and this sounds so funny LMFAO
@haykor7165
2 жыл бұрын
It sounds for me funny too, but I'm russian xD. "Threkiotka" is the funniest word i would have ever heard in the whole galaxy
@myself5812
2 жыл бұрын
Can you understand ancient Greek texts?
@WitchVillager
2 жыл бұрын
@@myself5812 very slightly :/
@WitchVillager
2 жыл бұрын
@@haykor7165 LOL it sounds like a russian word to me
@haykor7165
2 жыл бұрын
@@WitchVillager same, -otka is very russian suffix for me
Some Slavic influences too.
Konstantinopoli belongs to Thrace.
@redokstepkimesi6187
2 жыл бұрын
come take it
@003mohamud
2 жыл бұрын
lmao
Hope Andy can make about Dacian language .i know about Dacian Language from Van Helsing drama and dacian language also related to Thracian language if i not wrong? 😅.
@x3aga971
2 жыл бұрын
There are not many details about Dacian language, 😓
@ylliriaalbania326
Жыл бұрын
Dacian Language is similar to the Albanian, Illyrian language.. The same language with different dialects
@zalmorxis4736
Жыл бұрын
The oldest name of Dacia is Daia from Dii (Bessi) - Strabo! Bulgarians and Romanians are Thracian brothers! The same Satem language. 😉
It would be nice to hear the original ancient Daco-Thracian language. ☝️🙂
Sounds sooo spanish.
So different from greek!
@user-ii4fi5mc9k
2 жыл бұрын
It's not exactly a language but a dialect. This shows the accent. Many words are the same but sound very differently.
@pn8937
2 жыл бұрын
It is not that different than Modern Koine Greek (our standardised official language) it may seem different to a foreigner but as a matter of fact the differencies between the thracian dialect and the Modern Koine Greek are systematic hence very easy to understand and immitate. What is more most of the dialects of central and nothern Greece adhere to the same conventions as the Thracian Greek (the so-called northern dialect group) which means that like 30% of the total Greek population ,more than half of the population outside Athens ,speak dialects phonologically closer to thracian Greeks than Modern Koine Greek. Now of course there are specifically thrakiot idioms and vocabulary items a person from Thessaly or Central Greece may not understand but all in all Thracian Greek arenot by any means ''exotic '' or unintellegible for Greek speakers. We call dialects like Thracian Greek ιδιώματα as opposed to διάλεκτους(dialects) because we reserve the linguistic term of dialect only for those of them that are distnct enough from Modern Koine Greek that they are not almost always intellegible with it.
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I felt surprised how many loanwords from Turkish this Greek dialect had gotten so far!!
I speak standard Greek and i didn't understand almost anything from what he said
@AutonomistCham
2 жыл бұрын
That's why it is Thracian Greek!
@user-is9nh8yi3i
2 жыл бұрын
άστα βράστα...
@newreast3904
2 жыл бұрын
eisai tzimani mallon gi'auto. or u may speak standar greek but you aren't greek, that's why u don't understand. it's a possibility. me also a standard greek speaker and i got almost the whole bloody thing .
To me it sounds like crossing greek and south slavic.
Greek
waiting for Italian dialects
first
Is the same with Macedonian Greek dialect..please make ancient Macedonian language
The only dialect left is tsakonian greek which is dorian greek direved
@esti-od1mz
2 жыл бұрын
It is not a dialect! It is the descendat of the ancient spartan dialect, not descending from the Koine
Oh... "Hey you" in thracian greek is swear word in Korean
The ancient Thracians were not greeks, they were a family of their own which eventually got hellenized and later slavicized. Does this dialect retain anything from their original language?
Kurdish / Persian Lütfen brader
That 'Hey you' sounds like straight up South Korean F-word 💀💀💀
Thracia 776
Kurdish "era" greek "eda" 😃
Ben türküm gümürcine de yaşıyorum
The Thracians spoke proto- Bulgarian, not greek and Thracian is proto- Sanskrit because we brought it to India. A language cannot be called both thracian and greek , such thing do not exist. Those are two very different language groups, almost saying german french .Thracian is also also way older than any other languages in the world so influence from other languages upon the Thracian did not exist.
The Greek accent of the Turks in Thrace is beautiful
Thracian is a Rup dialect and applies only to blugArian thracians - Aria (Αρια), Ари (Αρης)! 😜
Greek language is not trachian.Trachian is a sanskrit arians.
Thracia is not inhabited by Greeks. Greeks are constitue a minority rest of the absolute majority of this region is TURKS.
@zalmorxis4736
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Only BlugArian! Old name Thrace is Perky (Περκη) and Aria (Αρια)! 😉 Tracian dialect is Rup dialect - Thracian=Rup! 😜 Satem language, not Centum or Turkish. 😄
Thrace was and is Bulgarian, they grabbed it so violently from us😭
@slonskipieron
2 жыл бұрын
Before the emergence of Turkic Bulgarians and Slavs throughout today's Bulgaria, Greek was spoken in the Thracian dialect.
@zalmorxis4736
Жыл бұрын
Correct! Before the coming of Danaus Greeks from Ethiopia only Rup spoke (Thracian), satem languages, not centum. 😉 The Slavs are the biggest lie of the 17th century! The real name is Sclaves, and it is the new name of the Geths - Theophylact Simocatta! BulgАrians don't come from anywhere, because, this is the real name of the Thracians (Greek existonym). Called 1100 years by the chroniclers - Moesians (Mysians), Paeons (Meons), Myrmidons, Cimmerians (Scythians), Huns (Mas((s))agetae - Moesi (Mysi) and Getae). Mysia in Nesilim (Hittite) Masa - MasaGetae. 😉 The oldest name of Thrace (Θρακη) is Perkу (Περκη) and Aria (Αρια) - Stephen of Byzantium! Just like BulgAria. The oldest form of the name Bulgaria is - BlugAria - BlugArinu! 😜 en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E2%B0%B1%E2%B0%BE%E2%B1%8F%E2%B0%B3%E2%B0%B0%E2%B1%83%E2%B0%BB%E2%B1%80%E2%B1%8F# The lies ended a long time ago! 😉👌 Mysia, also Vulgaria in the map of Jerome the Blessed - 380 AD. 😚