How do you think Billy Corgan handled everything?

@raetime2350

10 күн бұрын

In the best way possible. So articulate but to the point. Polite but blunt.

Damn. I never had a high opinion of Billy Corgan, but now I gotta' give him credit as a human being. He really does have his priorities straight.

@choco698

10 күн бұрын

Why did you not have a high opinion

@latentsea

6 күн бұрын

He did a call and reply in early 90’s to the audience and started saying “I’m a mindless sheep” the audience was repeating his every word, then he stood back and laughed at every one and started berating them. I had never seen a performer make fun fun of his audience and ruin the vibe. College show when they were touring gish

@JeffPalasek-cw2hv

6 күн бұрын

@choco698 Hey, I've actually been thinking about your question for a while. I mostly didn't care for his over-inflated opinion of himself coupled with what I would describe as an elitist, condescending attitude. I always had an inflated opinion of myself, but I also thought everybody else was awesome, too. And so him introducing himself in concert as "the best songwriter in the world"... stuff like that always irritated me. I thought he was good at song-writing, but not that great.

@zachhiggins1668

5 күн бұрын

Corgan is ok. He was raised weird af and so just has a very 'only child' type personality. Doesn't mean he's not a decent human being

@nickroest236

2 күн бұрын

Honestly agree, I've always thought he was a bit pompous but he definitely acted correctly here, and I mosh HARD

It's crazy how Corgan stopped the show multiple times to help the crowd back in the 90s while in another country, but Travis Scott couldn't stop his show and just watched people die at his concert in his hometown

@DeltresePshanks

12 күн бұрын

Because Travis is black and a rapper. He doesn't have time to be told what to do or do the right thing. I'm black, so you can get over that. I'm just speaking the truth. There's a reason why I moved out of the hood

@mikig6921

12 күн бұрын

He may a shit person. Rappers are weird. ​@DeltresePshanks

@cheekyphuzz_thegod8558

12 күн бұрын

@@DeltresePshanksAs much as I didn’t want to say anything about that, I think you’re absolutely right. Not all Black people are ignorant, but that ‘hood mentality definitely rots peoples brains & souls. That’s why I moved out as well

@floydsemlow8253

12 күн бұрын

​@@DeltresePshanksyes he's a real piece of sh*t💯🤷 and yet these clowns continue to support him and go to his shows. No repercussions for his actions. absolutely Sic!

@enetlocal

12 күн бұрын

It's worse than that for Scott being that he encourages that type of shit behavior and approved of a dangerous design for the festival layout that he was warmed about a few times..

Billy using his calm dad demeanor on the crowd and they just didn’t catch the drift

Billy doesn't seem like a phoney, he loves the fans

My cousin was at this show. Corgan and the band tried to prevent what happened happening. Having experienced both moshing and this venue myself, numerous times, this must have been a terrifying experience.

I was there that night... 15 years old... had the time of my life... Had no idea about the tragedy until after. Frightening, looking back. I was moshing, crowd-surfing, lost my shirt, having a mad time. I remember people helping each other up, in good spirits. But the crowd got too much, and after a while, you were basically jumping involuntarily. It was so hot and mental, the best way out was surfing over the top. I remember the pleas to step back, and the crowd tried to comply, but little effect was had. Fact is the venue was certainly sold beyond capacity illegally. When I look back now, I can see how dangerous it was. The last time I surfed over, walking back round, the band were kicking into some heavier tunes and people were still pushing in from the back in a surge, one of the hits, Zero or Bullet. I chose to regroup and look for friends. People were distraught outside. Criminal negligence from shady concert organisers cost a young girl her life.

@kylereece1979

12 күн бұрын

I was there too, mate. I think, most of the initial damage was done within the first 3 songs. A huge tsunami of people surged so fast so sudden towards the front, where I was. The massive swell toppled over anyone in its way, and I was down on the ground during the opening song, "Where boys fear to Thread". I LOVE that song, and remember being helped up, scrambling for my feet to stand still, whilst picking others up. 'People were distraught Outside'.. that is a brilliant point- and when you think of the time, it feels even more so. No social media, no mobile phones, no way of contacting friends in the mass frenzy of teenage anxiety running and scrambling for eachother outside. Trying to find each other, looking for yer mates, wondering if they were the ones hurt that Billy was talking about. It was insane.

I love the full audio from the concert. They were so clear to the audience. What a great program you made here. Funny little fact, Jimmy Chamberlain was my old step dad's cousin. I'm subscribed already, but my ears light up when I hear that name lol

@rnrtruestories

12 күн бұрын

thanks!

@latentsea

6 күн бұрын

See if you can get me free tickets to a show and a 7 piece Yamaha Birch Custom Absolute in emerald green with lots of hardware and maybe a gong. Also ask him to throw in a 8x7 Tom please. Thanks in advance!

This happens and it burns corgans heart till this day. Travis Scott "rubs forehead" awe ... Man, i cant believe this happened "rubs head, sighs" man, i don't know what to do. "phony sigh rubs head again"

You should do a video on the short lived history of Billy and Jimmy’s band Zwan. Excellent job as always!!

@tylerbrunton7696

9 күн бұрын

I attended two Zwan concerts, at the second the crowd went absolutely nuts and surged forward. It caused the first couple rows to become pinned and many of them fell down. Billy had to stop immediately and plead for calm while everyone got up safely. We moved to the back, that crowd was bonkers.

I'm always up for more true stories with The Pumpkins!

@rnrtruestories

12 күн бұрын

plenty more to do!

@Saddartha

12 күн бұрын

​@@rnrtruestoriesCan't wait. Keep it up! ❤

@TeraGreene1

11 күн бұрын

❤❤

@TRKJSR

8 күн бұрын

Yes!

I have always thought that Billy is a damn good guy! This REALLY proves it.

I was at this, as a rabid, frantic 16 year old fan. SP were the world to me, and the out of body experience I had upon entering the Point was fusing with the utter mania erupting around the thousands. It was all going off during Filter's set even. I dont know the full cause of the disaster. Too many people overcrowing inthe main hall, I cannot recall. During the first 3 songs, there was a mass tsunami of bodies rippling and rushing uncontrollably towards the backs of those in the front rows. It caused us all to fall forward atop the nxt person infront. A massive pile of people on the floor and I remember the panic, as I hurryingly scrambled to my feet, whilst all squeezed around me tried to help people up. The show was stopped and restarted many times. After an hour, the band left. We thought it was just the first half of the show done, but they re-emerged onstage a totally different looking band. Billy was utterly distraught announcing the situation, which those in the back of the area didnt fully experience, thus understand. Some people booed, not realising the severity of it. Then D'arcy sternly addressed the audience, and then it was like 'Ok, something is seriously wrong here..." Seeing them so small now up there, so hit and affected so, 'human" in contrast to the Rock Giants from space I hailed them as was a feeling Id not known at the time. We learned the next day that the girl had tragically passed. Horrible feeling, because I remember thinking and talking to my friends, if , that girl was around us, next to us during the first fall. Tings like that played and stayed in the mind at the time.

@TRKJSR

8 күн бұрын

Thanks for writing that perspective, it’s a very sad thing that happened. They’ve been one of my favorite bands since the 90’s and I never knew about this incident. What a surreal memory to have been there.

@kylereece1979

8 күн бұрын

@@TRKJSR 👍 Cheers, man. It was only my second ever gig in that sense. And it was my first time at a Gig that size. For most people there, it would have maybe been their first big show. At the time, there wasnt as many large gigs regulary going on in Ireland as much as now. This week, Pink, Pearl Jam and Rammstein are here, plus a good few more outdoor gigs. Back then, it wouldnt have been as jam packed as that in such a short space. When a big rock band was in town like that, and with the Pumpkins being utterly Massive at that stage, a lot of people went for the event itself, the absolute buzz. The atmosphere within the place was absolute fever pitch, Volcanic. And initially, it was incredible. I was 16- which was perhaps the average age there. It was beyond exciting. But, during the actual gig itself, overcrowding and tsunamis of people rippling up towards the front , knocked everyone down. Like I also mentioned aswell- outside the place afterwards was insane. No social media, no phones. You had to run, walk everywhere looking for your friends, in the hope that, the person Billy said was hurt back there wasnt too serious, or someone you knew.

I was there, 16 yrs old. Second gig ever..... We were falling like domino's & getting crushed. It was absolutely terrifying. Thank god I had the tenacity to fight my way up & get crowd surfed out....... That poor girl from Cork. It was they played "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" that it went insane. I'm lucky to be alive, I was under bodies multiple times & thought I was done. Rest in peace lassie. Erin and Go Bragh. 🇮🇪🇮🇪

@kylereece1979

12 күн бұрын

I was there aswell. The place was utter mania the moment Filter hit the stage. I remember being with my friends the next day, and we heard that the girl had sadly passed. It was a very sombre moment. After the tragedy, the next show I went to was Metallica, again back at the Point. Nearly six months to the day of the Pumpkins show. That show was interesting because, if you've seen the "Cunning Stunts" live show that the 'Load" tour is based on, you know about the falling , collapsing rigging and roadies catching fire, with Hetfield nervously brushing sparks off his arm, as the whole place plunges to darkness. It was, all part of the show, the whole audience gets punked! But, since at the initial time, it was a secret, most of the audience in the room that night all thought yet another disaster was unfolding infront of us.

Moshing happens alot and people do get injured but never to this point this often, it must’ve been a organising issue since people were getting crushed and had no space

This is another binge watch channel, especially for a topic I love, rock and roll

@rnrtruestories

9 күн бұрын

Thank you! Best compliment I could get.

Not much has truly scared me in my life. One thing that has is a massive crowd surging. I was at a concert around 2000 when Eminem was playing. The crowd of 80k people started pushing forward. You just get picked up off of your feet and there is nothing you can do about it. Luckily he stopped the show for like 30 minutes to get the crowd back. Happened in an arena too in 94 when i saw Green Day at the Patriot Center in Fairfax. The entire arena rushed the general admission floor. It was insanely scary.

Even when I was younger I thought moshing was frigging stupid. Why can't people just enjoy the bands they paid to see without the need to get needlessly violent

@Ottophil

12 күн бұрын

You ever have anger issues? Theres something amazing about punching and being punched by strangers. We never killed each other though. In fact we picked people up if they fell. We saved each other to hurt each other

@RighteousRhythm

12 күн бұрын

Exactly

@joshjacobs3906

12 күн бұрын

Moshing is EXACTLY how we enjoyed the music. It wasn't done just to be violent, the music took over and moshpits were the result.....if anybody hit the floor, many hands reached down to pick up the fallen. Believe it or not, there was nothing but love in the pit. 🤘

@alexanders562

12 күн бұрын

"I want to dance and be attractive, but I am angry and have no dance skills. I will not be attracting any women anyway, so...mosh." It was the "dance" of punks being anti social, then that spilled into other genres.

@TheBlackAxe1

12 күн бұрын

@@Ottophil I was a metal head from a young age in the 1980's and I longed to experience a pit. However, the first show I went to that had a pit, I wanted nothing to do with it. I had anger issues then and I still do, on some level, but I am not a violent person by any stretch. ✌Before it was moshing, it was slam dancing. Bouncing around with your arms down bumping shoulders. Not swinging fists and throwing kicks. That is completely unnecessary to have a good time in a pit. I hear you and I get it, but I agree with the poster.🤘

3:04 Oh God, I haven't heard that audio in years. I heard it on a bootleg of the gig a day or two after it. I'm so glad I didn't go. I had seen them at the SFX the last time they had played. Alot of my friends were there that night at the Point Depot. They were fairly shaken up. That poor girl.

Thank you for the post! ✌🏼😊

I avoid any situation that might cause me to be packed in like a sardine with other people or not be able to move freely. I don't really like people and have severe claustrophobia.

@rosita061

12 күн бұрын

Same. Bc of these types of shows traumatized me.

I love their dedication to their fans. That person that died was someone's family member they had a life they lived just like everyone else. I'm sure that family of that victim will forever cherish Billy and the band for their selflessness and huge hearts!

Smashing Pumpkins will always be in my top favourite bands. I remember going to Tower records and copped that double album and it changed my life. I still have it and often will give them a spin. I also remember the first time I heard cherub rock on KROQ, growing up in LA. Song always gave me chills, and still moves me to this day as a 40 year old living in Canada. Sad to hear this story; and also, kudos to SP for STOPPING the concert, instead of mumbling on in a foggy haze as bodies hit the floor. I’m looking at you Diddy Monster and Travis Scott. Anyway, thanks again for your video. ❤

Much respect to billy for this

And thanks to Travis Scott.. concerts have tripled in price..

Every time those stocious punx started in, the band should’ve played “All I Need” by Jack Wagner until enough of em cleared the hell OUTTA there! “Oh, you wanna keep doin this? Here, have 20 minutes straight of ‘Feelings’ by Morris Albert! And a 1, 2, 3 … 🎵”!!!!

This blows my mind! The Smashing Pumpkins played a tiny record store in my hometown and only members of the fan club were allowed in. That show occurred after this one.

Horrible. I always find kids wearing Nirvana t-shirts daunting. When I saw Nirvana at the Detroit State Theatre. It was the bloodiest mosh pit I have ever been. I respected Billy Corgan for stopping the show after that horrific death.

Thank you for the humble video with respect for young Bernadette.

Another great video.

PUNKS NOT DEAD but all our backs are out

@whoami7721

12 күн бұрын

Old punks never die, we just stand in the back. I definitely did that when I went to the No Values Festival. The Misfits headlined! I'm nearly fifty years old, and I can't do the pit anymore. I've been there and done that, got the scratches and bruises.

@Sk8Bettty

12 күн бұрын

@@whoami7721 I broke a finger at Gwar in Columbus

What surprises me the most is this being in a smashing pumpkins concert!

I was there that night but luckily upstairs in the seats. I remember thinking it looked really crazy down in the crowd. What i thought was strange though was how the band would stop, tell people to chill and move back (no one did) and then they'd play some super heavy major hit. I don't recall which ones but you can imagine. It just seemed really obviously counter productive and maybe it might have helped to play something slower. Although based on the comments here, it was early on that the damage was done and it was just too crowded.

😎⭐🙏🏆 Thank you for sharing this

Billy did a great job, rip to the life loss

Billy Corgan is 110 percent right! I admire him for that. He chose the safety of his fans over money ! ❤😊

Great video.

The fact that Corgan made several attempts to calm the situation, stopped the show, and finally made the decision to try to return to the place where all that happened, without making it about him or his ego, speaks volumes about him as a human being.

It’s crazy I’ve never heard of this and I’ve been in that venue multiple times, mind you I was 9 at the time so I guess that’s why I’m not familiar with it. I feel bad for the band they literally tried multiple times to get everyone to calm down and then had to live with the fact that someone died. Crazy stuff

Donington Monsters of Rock 1988. Total mayhem that ended up with 2 dead and loads of injured. I was in the middle of it and had to fight hard just to stay upright. Still went to Donington a few times after that but felt I could see the bands just fine from a bit further away.

@kylereece1979

9 күн бұрын

That was during Guns n' Roses, wasnt it? I read about this, whereby, Iron Maiden went onto Headline the day as planned after GNR. I could be wrong about this mate, but were GnR not told about what happened until way later that evening? Did Maiden go on, not knowing either the full extent of what had just happened?

Billy Corigan so cool!! I remember being at a Concrete Blonde concert. The lead stopped the moshing also

Not a huge fan of his but i respect his attempt to save some kids that were getting hurt.

Billy did absolutely everything right and someone still died. It isn't his fault but I imagine it would be hard to go on knowing that you tried your best and forces beyond your control resulted in the death of a fan of your music. Moshing is stupid.

How awful when you try to save lives but your own fans stop you and cause the death of one of the musical family. Tragic.

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@billiewender49

12 күн бұрын

If you want to see something pretty cool I have it on DVD I believe it's the DVD pulse from Pink Floyd Billy Corgan well actually playing with Pink Floyd

Moshing was fun when I was 14 years old kid. Now a full grown adult, seeing fat, shirtless, sweaty slobs run into each and fall down, can't help but think of two aliens watching from above and saying - Another failed experiment. Maybe next batch will get it right 🤪👽👽

I had tickets for the show at MSG the night that Jonathan Melvoyne died. It was postponed a few months with replacement drummer from Filter. Heartbreaking, as a drummer my hero was Jimmy Chamberlain. It made me grow up a bit faster during that period.

SP 🤍 I remember my first concert, I was 15 at Terminal 5 in NYC. It was a Dir En Grey (JRock/Metal) concert and holy FUCK. I really thought I could have died that day. The pushing was horrible..I could have lifted my feet and still be suspended in the air, that’s how tight and how smushed everyone was. They came back the next year and had explicit rules and everyone had plenty of room to move around that year. It’s super scary, that’s why I always sit in a seat now. Though for SP Id try the pit these days.

@zarc0n

12 күн бұрын

Amazing first concert! Cant wait to catch Dir live! My first concert was Metallica 93' my uncle took me i was 10 🤘🏼😎

I think the bass player misread that a little bit…I seriously doubt the audience had smiles on their face because they thought it was funny

Respectfully he tried hard to calm the crowd. It is a shame she lost her life. Unfortunately you cannot control a crowd that has gotten out of control

Is it me or your voice doesn't sound the same since a few videos ?

I respect him for this. Yet I'm conflicted because I've been craving moshing; I miss the jumping, fist pumping, the high energy. My first pit was in Baltimore and the venue had rules for the pit and security guards in it to enforce the safety rules and guide people out of it. I had a great experience; fell back on a guy by accident and he helped me up then encouraged me to elbow him. For me it's rage therapy.

@knightrider6473

11 күн бұрын

Sounds strange.

Have fun, and feel free to jam out and dance on the floor. But please do so responsibly, and always be aware of your surroundings

ur voice sounds a little different than usual always great quality content tho

Very sad

This was my era as a teen. I was in many of these types of concerts (not Pumpkin’s) and it got bad. I was 17 and getting crushed at the front gate. Security pulled my friends out, but I stayed. I was so proud since I was a 90 pound 5 ft 2 girl and “stayed strong” and didn’t let go until the end. As an adult, I see how dangerous it was. I also think that these were the root cause of my social anxiety I developed the years after. I feel terrible for Bernadette and her family. She’d be mid life like me by now. So tragic.

I liked moshing but like at the Green Day concert where nobody was trying to actually hurt anyone. I respect what Billy Corgan and the SP did.

Seen Pumpkins in the redeveloped Arena. Brilliant night

That's very sad. Billy handled it better than most would've and you can tell it's hard for the whole band. I'd love to see them live but as a fan I don't really find their music the kind you'd mosh to. At least not for me

❤

I love the idea of moshing and watching it... crowdsurfing and all that. But I can see how it can lead to dangerous situations like being gropped, attacked, or even death in some extreme situations. Wish people that would participate in such things makes sure people have a good time while keeping things safe and help people up if they get potentially hurt.

did you use a.i for this?

This is so sad

They tried a metal show with the seats in place to stop moshing in my home city. They were ripped from the ground and used as projectiles. They had to redo ALL the seats on the lower half of the venue. Let's just say they haven't had seats for metal shows since lol

I got hit by a body surfer that came from behind me, resulting in smashing my nose into the back of somebody’s head right in front of me. Blood poorer out of my nose of course, and ironically had to be surfed out to the front gate and got treatment from backstage personnel. Gave Bert Mccraken the finger at side stage haha, first concert ever at Taste of Chaos in 2007.

I appreciate that they tried to get a handle on this. As with many things, it's the casual jack asses that ruin it for everyone else.

I've always stayed clear of mosh pits, but I was on the outskirts of one that broke out and had to reach in and drag some girl out before her legs got crushed. She was thankful, but quickly returned to the pit. I'm afraid I'll never understand the mentality. They did the right thing by stopping the show. Many acts would just play the gig, take the money, and on to the next without a care.

I took my little brother to a hardcore show in the late ‘90s. It was Stretch Arm Strong. We were there maybe 10 minutes when some dipshit metalhead flew over the crowd and big black boots kicked my brother square in the face. It busted a hole in his bottom lip. This came out of nowhere!

Even Guns N' Roses had some fans crushed by the audience during their show but the band realized after meeting with their manager in the pub.

I went to so many shows in the late 90s, early 2000s and have mixed opinions on moshing. Metal crowds, in general (there will always be exceptions) seemed to be the most attentive to ensuring a measure of safety. They helped people (especially girls) get out if a pit formed, they picked people up, i didnt see any punches or kicks either. Nu-metal crowds were different though. I saw a lot of morons trying to prove their toughness, cheap shots, groping of girls, and a lot more intoxicated participation. I saw way more injuries at those shows than at hard rock or metal ones at the same venues as well. I remember a Marilyn Manson show at Roseland where there was a mix of his fans, ones that were into the more industrial rock side and ones that were more into the glam rock side. A bunch of people got hurt at that show, security was dragging away multiple people that were unconscious because the glam goth contingency hadnt come there to mosh and were enveloped by those that had. I had great fun moshing but can also recall getting crushed by the crowd rush at a Halloween Slipknot show in either '99 or '00. There was nowhere to go, it was a struggle to breathe, you're at the mercy of the throng and it took tremendous effort to just to stay aware between the spectacle and the violence. In seeing well over a hundred shows I NEVER saw a band calm the crowd or stop the show to address moshing, fighting, or rushing. Billy and the Pumpkins definitely have my respect for trying to prevent their fans from getting hurt.

I was at an Alice in chains concert back in October and we had a mosh pit going someone fell and everyone stopped on a dime until he got up it was weird to me that was my first experience in a mosh pit

I’ve never seen a cool person in a mosh pit

Man. I remember this. The girl was a year older than me.

@rnrtruestories

12 күн бұрын

yeah it was awful.

🤔🤔🤔 Corgan against moshing… explain his multiple attempts for the thousand man mosh at festival shows

…Damn

Moshing is perfectly safe if people have the basic common courtesy to stop and help people up.

@dukenukem69

12 күн бұрын

Nope not at all. Both moshes ive been in ended with fights. Moshing is dunb af, especially with low iq scrawny little metal heads

@Hello_Fuckers0

12 күн бұрын

I guess that's the difference between metalheads and smashing pumpkins fans smh how hard of a pit could they really generate? It sounds like it was the crowd rushing to the barricades that killed that poor girl not the mosh pit

@stephengallagher2209

12 күн бұрын

I was there, and they/we did... you're not factoring in the over-selling in an encosed space. Also, though I didn't see it myself, word was the girl got pinned against one of those terrace crowd separaters, and was not trampled, but crushed with forward motion.

@bengage9695

12 күн бұрын

Safe-ish at least.

@jeffwalker6815

12 күн бұрын

@@stephengallagher2209 That is actually totally true (although both those things disregard common courtesy by different parties).

I think 100% they did the right thing. They were very respectful a young girl dying. It’s not funny or cool. I would’ve done the exact same thing. People are supposed to go to concerts and just have a good time not get trampled and killed. it’s mostly big menthat do the mosh pit stuff and it should be like one little area. The Irish can get pretty tough but I do love Irish people.

If only Travis Scott wasn't under satan trance during his entire performance ... he has gotten better about not being totally under musical mind control as of late tho ill give him that

Bibbady Bobbidy boo. The pumpkin is a coo 🎩🪄 Andrew Wood

Me and my dad were going to see them in cincinnati ohio to listen to there old music well billy corgan said we are not going to play the good old songs only new ones i thought was bullshit because thats why fans come to see you is to listen to old music not new shit and there probably not going to be a lot of fans not go to a smashing pumpkins concert in cincinnati because of not playing good music

Is this your AI voice? Tone sounds different thsn before.

@rnrtruestories

2 күн бұрын

No it might be because I recorded it in the morning voice is a little deeper I. Morning

That sounds like a Travis Scott type of concert.

Someone got a new mic? You sound different. Not bad, not good just different. ❤

@rnrtruestories

12 күн бұрын

No I think I recorded it as soon as a I got up in the morning and my voice is pretty deep early on the morning

@Digitalhunny

12 күн бұрын

@@rnrtruestories Ohhh, it's your _sultry_ voice, I see! 😂 Carry on, please. 😘💕

Another thing aswell. This was long 'fore social media and mobile phones. Outside the Point the mass of thousands were all frantically trying to find friends that were separated from eachother as the show started. The classic "meeting point' after the gig, where you find yer mates, all good. But here that nite, everyone was scrambling and hurrying back and froth hoping to see friends. Your mind is going " Is he ok? Is she the one Billy is takling about that is in serious trouble?', as we all tried to regroup. I went to the show with a bus full of about 25 people. It took ages to all regroup. No phones to call anyone, no messages to send to find peoples whereabouts, see if they are ok. That is something that people today couldnt imagine. I remember the bus back home- three hour drive- and the mood being full of 'What the Hell just Happened?'

Never been a fan of that band

@notpub

11 күн бұрын

I wonder why not.

@lockyp204

6 күн бұрын

Nobody asked.

Moshing to SP? Talk about desperate to do something stupid

@Faks.09

12 күн бұрын

Now go listen to "Tales of a scorched earth" and come back

fornite

Moshing at a pumpkins concert 😂😂😂

@darrenbrown8877

12 күн бұрын

You're so edgy bro

They had one good song and that's it.

@notpub

11 күн бұрын

Are you serious? They have many great ALBUMS.

What blows me away the most is that people were even moshing, and violently at that, at a Smashing Pumpkins show.

@bigjermboktown6976

12 күн бұрын

God damn you beat me to it that's the same thing I was thinking LOL and I just commented the same thing

@zarc0n

12 күн бұрын

Pretty obvious both of you have only heard "Tonight" and "1979" to be shocked people were moshing at a pumpkins concert! You both literally have not heard any other song! wtf is going on here with the troglodytes in KZread's comments ?!?!?!!

@zarc0n

12 күн бұрын

Everyone look how dumb these 2 comments above are.. "so shocked people are moshing, and violently, to pumpkins" HAHAHAHAHA SAID SOMEONE WHO'S ONLY HEARD TONIGHT AND 1979!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA

@stephengallagher2209

12 күн бұрын

Mental comment...

@darrenbrown8877

12 күн бұрын

Stupid comment.. because apparently songs like Zero, Bullet With Butterfly Wings are finger picked acoustic ballads

I like this guys voice, but why do we need to see these people all of a sudden. Go back to being a voice over.

Nothing like getting psyched up for a show just to be told to essentially sit down and shut up. Just stay in the back or in the balcony if you don't want to be part of the mosh. It's that simple. Stop being little babies.

this would have never happened had they called it a day after Siamese Dream and they would have left a perfect legacy instead of becoming a parody of what was once a great band

One of the WORST bands I've seen live. Never again.

@notpub

11 күн бұрын

Why?

Have we found the video of Kurt kicking Billy's 🫏 yet 😎🥃

@darrenbrown8877

12 күн бұрын

Lol, Billy is like 6ft3 while Kurt is a skinny addict and on like 5ft9, Billy would mop the floor with him

@gathrightcrystal

12 күн бұрын

@@darrenbrown8877 there is video because the camera guy got 🤬 too with the camera 😎🍿

@gathrightcrystal

12 күн бұрын

@@darrenbrown8877 that's why Kurt put him in a headlock 😎🍿

@gathrightcrystal

12 күн бұрын

@@darrenbrown8877 watch the video if it's ever found 😎🍿

@gathrightcrystal

12 күн бұрын

@@darrenbrown8877 pumpkins where on the charts when Nirvana hit with nevermind 😎🍿

8:00 Corgan here sounds like a drugged robot downloading a press release written by a lawyer.

@notpub

11 күн бұрын

Nope. He sounds thoughtful, reflective, conflicted, sad. His body langusage matches his tone and pacing. I think he really cares about the fans. I think he likely likes the rock star lifestyle, no doubt. But this was an authentic, somber moment.

We don't even care.

If you can't take the Mosh, get out of the Pit.

@Sk8Bettty

12 күн бұрын

The pits at gwar shows tho

@whargoul43

12 күн бұрын

@@Sk8BetttyI live for Gwar pits…. Lol

@poindextertunes

12 күн бұрын

@@Sk8BetttyPantera was the biggest pit I’d ever seen. If you were watching Pantera play, you were in the pit

@joscot9081

12 күн бұрын

@@Sk8Bettty Gwar at Harpo's in Detroit was legendary spot for pits in the 90's ....man I'm old

@Sk8Bettty

12 күн бұрын

@@joscot9081 I broke my finger at gwar in Columbus trying to escape the pit. Fake blood and jiz errywhere. I stood in the back with my finger in a cup of ice then promptly had a blob of fake poo catapulted at my chest. Good times.

I dislike Billy Corrigan more every year. They should address the crowd BEFORE the show and advise people on the way to mosh without hurting people - it's totally possible to do

@janhenrikbauer

12 күн бұрын

I dislike you. You saw the future and didn't warn them, yet now you're bitchin

@knightrider6473

11 күн бұрын

Or just not do it and act like morons. Maybe they try growing up.

Dude is stunningly inarticulate. "Okay, okay?" And he sounds bored. This was a plan. Some might call it a sacrifice.

@mikig6921

12 күн бұрын

😂

@Idiot_stick

10 күн бұрын

Billy corgan inarticulate? Gtfoh