You can really see why it internal combustion on the rails didn't catch on until the starter motor became common. I'd much rather put a fire in a steam engine and wait a few hours than have to start that Medieval piece of torture equipment.

@ach3909

3 жыл бұрын

It's a tossup between starting a diesel or shoveling coal into the firebox every 2 minutes.

@PreservationEnthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

@@ach3909 It's absolutely completely *bonkers*

@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398

3 жыл бұрын

@@PreservationEnthusiast *bonkers*

@PreservationEnthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

@@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398 It's totally fantastic. It's absolutely completely totally *bonkers*

@robertstaines7907

2 жыл бұрын

A great replacement for a horse shunter

Alternative title would probably be "Lawrie attempting to start a sodding locomotive for 25 minutes"

@PreservationEnthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

@@idontcareexe9013 It's completely *bonkers*

If you had told me the same uni students that ran the line had knocked this together over a weekend from spare parts as they needed a locomotive quickly I'd have not questioned it... Lovely quaint thing!

@datguymiller

3 жыл бұрын

Okay we have chains, a narrow gauge motor and bonnet, truck frame and some metal beams I can make a loco out of this

@johnathanedwards9054

2 жыл бұрын

Still more effective than the prr q1 locos

Appropriately being called 'Courage' reminds the driver of 2 things:- 1 Courage in wanting to hand start it 2 Courage being the pints of beer to be supped replacing the sweat expended in doing so. Half expected a pack of hounds emerging from the undergrowth every time the 'horn' was sounded......

"Lawrie cranks it for 15 minutes and other stories."

"Diesel locos took over from steam because they didn't take hours to start"...... Hunslet contradicted this statement when they built Courage!!

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Could have an entertaining race of who can get going first vs a steam Loco

Wow, that starting procedure was really something! And they say diesels replaced steam cos they’re easier to start...

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

So much easier 😂

@dustinm2717

3 жыл бұрын

I think they mean diesels with electric starters that do all the hard work for you Cause yeah if you had to give a reason why electric starters were invented this is it, this is the prime example of it

when i saw the size of the loco , i couldn't understand how the video was 46 mins .. and then a good % was watching Lawrie suffer & Morgan be 'encouraging '

He's absolutely adorable

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

It's so cute isn't it!

@britrailtog7085

3 жыл бұрын

I would have thought that comment was referring to you 😛

That thing looks like it was built for shits and giggles. Very much a Lawrie Goes Loco loco. And you could probably have got a steam engine going more quickly to give it the bump start. Also, the exhaust just firing straight back into whoever is coupled behind you exemplifies the entire concept of the little thing! Great video with your usual enthusiasm!

I think you mistitled a 'Lawrie Goes a Little Loco' episode, mate.

@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739

3 жыл бұрын

Lawrie goes a little loco is his model railway segment bro lawrie goes loco is real life locos on standard gauge or narrow

@AlexWeiss94

3 жыл бұрын

@@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 he’s making a joke because the locomotive is so small

@TankEngine75

3 жыл бұрын

@@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739 ...You didn't get the joke

@irishsixtysixfanGbrf66739

3 жыл бұрын

@@TankEngine75 I did get it

@PreservationEnthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlexWeiss94 It's absolutely *bonkers*

It’s also struck me that having a Courage sign on that loco was also very apt as I think it took a lot of ‘Courage’ to try to start that by crank handle. 😉

33:16 when it’s coming head on I think it kind of looks like a Ruston 48 which has had its body stripped

Another great video!!

@nottelling8129

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t expecting to see you here!

@Philip271828

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, hai there.

@SimplyTakuma

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Plainly Difficult!

@eddjordan2399

3 жыл бұрын

No way Mr The Difficult watch's L M M.

@peteawesomeplay7934

3 жыл бұрын

wow its you

My local water scouting group (yes, in the Netherlands) used to have this engine in a 1920's 3,5 meter long tiny tug boat (with the so called 'Amsterdam' stern), I was a hard one to start but it could run all day at a medium RPM. The sound of that engine brings me back to the care free 1990's which I enjoyed as a young adolecense.

Reminds me of the Juggernaut from Ivor The Engine. That being said, no wonder it keeps going. Listers engines are notorious for their "Probably will outlive the human race" level of reliability.

lol :) The forklift that I drive at work weighs more than that locomotive! :D And I very much enjoyed your struggles trying to get it started ;)

Heard you on absolute radio this morning!!

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Fame at last 😂

It's surprisingly entertaining to watch some lads failing to turn a crank.

I remember seeing her at railfest 2012, such a cute engine!

Given the customer it was built for I think your idea about being devised late on a Friday night in a pub makes a lot of sense :-)

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 Thank you

Looks like it built a bits from hunslet shelf’s coupled together

@sawyerawr5783

3 жыл бұрын

that moment when a model railroad kitbasher accidentally joins a real engine company.

@sodorflubbs5000

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the duck billed platypus of railway engines!!!!

@roseroserose588

3 жыл бұрын

by the looks of it some of the shelves themselves were included for good measure

@PreservationEnthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

@@roseroserose588 It's totally fantastic. It's just absolutely completely *bonkers*

I think this must be the ultimate standard gauge critter! Thanks for showing it to us. It's spiritual successor, the Trackmobile, has got to be a lot easier to start. Cheers from Wisconsin.

This thing really is fascinating. I mean it seems very reliable, as it has nothing that could break. Its the perfect size for smalls goods operations and therefore great at shunting trucks on a heritage railway. I would say it has a great fuel efficiency due to its weight/size/engine. Overall a great loco, that you could even build yourself in the backyard

@lmm

2 жыл бұрын

It's a really interesting little thing!

You have just made my day, I've never laughed so much wathing you try and swing that engine, did you change from highto low compression before you tried starting that, I helped move a 4 cylinder version of that engine with a generator attached from Milton Keynes to Internal Fire museum Tan y Groes in Wales, I had the generator set on a trailer behind my van and a friend had the engine on a trailer behind his van. When we got it built together it took four men, three on the large starting handle and one on a rope attached to the handle to start it. :-) Forgot to mention, that engine is a modified version of a Lister CS twin, CS stands for Cold Start" :-)

Probably one of the only locomotives, since the 1840's, to still utilise a post horn as an audible warning device.

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

It's brilliant isn't it

Lovely little engine but she seems like she’s hell to drive - I was wincing at the noise she made with every gear change

@danielbaxter6203

3 жыл бұрын

Gear changes were to slow that's why.

I think the smallest standard gauge locomotive would be a 2ft gauge locomotive, dropped into a standard gauge frame called Hurculisese,(can't spell, named after t Greek god) which lives at Froxfield. She was a "convention " done by Shelton steel works

@almostkentish3042

3 жыл бұрын

Hercules?

An oil can should always be accompanied by a rag....👍

Serious competition for Mallard I think.

I just hear John Cleese going "START YOU VISCIOUS BASTARD!!!" while Lawrie is trying to crank it to life

If Hornby ever made a model of Courage, I’d buy one just for the sheer ridiculousness of it. I love the diesel can, just another example of industrial improvisation another example is one of the sentinels at the railway I volunteer at has a dicky brake cylinder that you have to kick every now and then to get it to shut properly! Brilliant video as always

@ajaxengineco

3 жыл бұрын

There's a 3d print on Shapeways, not sure if it's 00 but it does exist.

What a lovely little loco and may I say a very good video i am never disappointed with your videos they are the best railway content on KZread so interesting well done Lawrie 😊👍

Brilliant my man! This is along one of my lockdown walks as I live near there! They also had stored some trams from Leeds after the network got closed down but they got vandalised by the Riff Raff of the 60's 🙄 love your videos man and its ace you got ride along that line! 😊

That's one racey shunting engine! You see, Hunslet understood that a true fast shunter should be light as possible for handling

@ajaxengineco

3 жыл бұрын

Until you try and stop a few wagons in the snow, downhill, and sort of just slide. A 48 goes out of control with a single coach, so I shouldn't wonder the maximum braking load for this.

@highpath4776

3 жыл бұрын

@@ajaxengineco it tends to be used along the flatter tracks here, a downhill run from Middleton park might be lively if all three coaches , wagon and brake van were in service together.

That's the cutest little engine. Watching it come out of the trees under the footbridge was a bit like watching Dr Nefario on his mobility scooter 😄 It looked like great fun. 👍😊

One of the smallest standard gauge steam engine is the colonel Stephen gazelle

@alexhando8541

3 жыл бұрын

Shame it she won't ever run again, but hey ho; at least she survives!

@matteomarmiroli1713

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexhando8541 aye, it's a pity

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

It's a very strange little thing.

@robertrogers564

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexhando8541 a good day

Very interesting loco design. Love your vids!

really by 7:20 i must laugh and i wearing your LMM T-shirt with the words "I am currently unsupervised" so we made a locomotive and call Courage :D *with two dumbs up and great big smile* this is great

Was that horn seriously used back in those days xD??? Sounds so hilarious!!! Nice, little locomotive yet ridiculously tough to start...and changing gears while keeping it in motion is another tough thing in the list xD!!! Anyways, loved the video as Lawrie has always been my fav! Love from India :)

Quirky little diesel. Love the chain underneath. Reminds me of a sentinel, even though it looks like a cross between a Ford model T and a Ruston diesel shunter.

Awesome review LMM and what a machine. I love the hand crank engine, you gave it your best. I was weaned on COURAGE ale so it was grand to see the engine that moved the goods that ruined my digestive tracts (sorry too much info I know). Keep it up team, I love your work.

Very interesting histories and superb restorations, just Subscribed thanks for showing these fascinating old Locos. Regards, Paul.

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Pleased to hear you're enjoying them!

" I need a locomotive ? " "Well how much have you got"

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 I think we've something lying around

Love the video thanks for the upload

I’ve only watched 2 vids and I think ur Chanel is amazing! Keep up the good work!

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@mattymanb8797

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm your welcome!

Pea is a fun to start as i have seen in person but ended up as a bump start at a gala oh how fun 🤣👌🏼 can't wait for the next vid

Small world! My 1951 Massey-Harris G22 FS140 4 cylinder makes 22hp from factory. I'm not sure it still makes that, but I still use it every week or so to plow snow!

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear that it's still in use!

@Fischer0Dude

3 жыл бұрын

@@lmm I hope I work as good as my tractor does when I'm 70 years old!

A great video and a railway that is close to my heart as my gran lived nearbye and my great grandad Earnest Clapham was a driver in its working days and worked there for over 50 yrs and I have a few pics of various locomotives over the years that served the railway. I still have memories as a kid of the slag heaps as a backdrop and the tram lines that ran nearbye into middleton woods. The place looks totally different now.

@highpath4776

3 жыл бұрын

Drop a line to the line of any memories, there is a book recently published on the coal mines and the line and the locality.

Nice video as usual !! if you were to be able to have a go on all of their locos you could make enough episodes for the next couple of years! they do have an immaculate collection. Very nice museum and tea room too ,well worth visiting.

You had to make sure we knew you knew what you were doing Lawrie. Lol

Great episode. I remember seeing pictures of this and thinking it was a plaything made by someone just for the fun of it

I wonder if after all the effort to start it, it would have been less work just to push the wagon alone.

I love lawries excitement for this little engine. ☺️

Hi, I subscribed suddenly to your very intresting channel! Keep safe and cheers, Fabrizio

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for joining us 😊

@fabrizioviscardi40

3 жыл бұрын

@@lmm Thanks to you for sharing! Cheers Fabrizio

That is a nice looking train my friend

Ha ha,that was hilarious! Certainly a good old workout for you there. I've been to the Middleton a few times (I live 10 minutes away) and it is an excellent railway. Now go get a rub down lol.

another great video as always i really enjoy the content you should do a video with the midland railway trust they have some brilliant locos as well as an antique vehicle display

Great video

I love your channel.

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

There may be a smaller standard gauge loco than this. JACOB is a small petrol engined loco that worked at a Jacob's biscuit factory. The engine was at Dinting Railway center but where it is now I don't know.....just googled it, the loco is at Statfold Barn Museum

Awesome video. Truly.

@lmm

4 ай бұрын

Thank you

When talking about small locomotives I can’t help thinking about DSB Traktor 48 and DSB Traktor 57. Not British but tiny. And a bit silly.

@SDE1994

3 жыл бұрын

or the french Moyse tractor "Bête à cornes", lovely cast chassis

@Techmakerdk

3 жыл бұрын

@@SDE1994 that is a fine bit of kit as well. 😀

It is a lovely thing. How much did they take the Mickey out on you for the starter fail I wonder. Only thing I can think of that looks smaller (probably heavier?) Is the Port of Par/China clay twins Judy and Alfred (AKA Bill and Ben for some people of a certain age).

Thanks again great video. Thanks. James

@lmm

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Excellent

It's rather impressive that 50% of her class survived into preservation.

@lmm

2 жыл бұрын

Good innings!

I see all those practise sessions crank starting Humpty didn't pay off on this loco. Anyway its a interesting diesel loco and its past was upsetting to hear about but like any good story it ends in a good way in its preservation.

great video

Nice video :)

The Shropshire and Montgomeryshire Railway No.1 Gazelle is the actual smallest standard gauge loco in the world, around the same height as Talyllyn locos. Its currently at Tenterden in the museum, at the K&ESR.

@Synchro-Mesh

3 жыл бұрын

Look up The Flying Bufferbeam Peckett 1900 you'll be surprised

@SteamLance

3 жыл бұрын

@@Synchro-Mesh Yes I know that, but Gazelle is genuinely really small

@KrisDouglas

3 жыл бұрын

Peckett 1900 is low, but nowhere near as small.

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Courage is shorter though. My 48 is shorter I think Gazelle is 17 foot?

I love your videos please keep them coming because the more I see the more I wish I could be there in your country to live an own my loco and to work for you people

@lmm

2 жыл бұрын

We've got loads lined up!

Imagine a modern day variant that used an electric car battery, and a big flywheel!

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

It's a weird little thing isn't it

going to snap his thumb you never hook thumb over a starting handle but pain a great teacher when engine kicks back

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently it doesn't. You have to push the thing in to keep it engaged, which is very difficult to do if you don't hold it.

Have you ever been to/heard of the Tanat Valley Railway in Wales? It appears to be a very small, very independent heritage railway, much like many others, but they also have a monorail system complete with the world's only functioning steam monorail. It seems like the sort of thing you'd be interested in...

Sweet Pea went to the NRM a few years back, did some shunting on a MK1 I think and got some of the biggest cheers and toots from passing locos on the mainlines through York

Twenty minutes of Lawrie grunting and moaning, best time spent XDDD

@PreservationEnthusiast

3 жыл бұрын

It's just fantastic. It's just totally *bonkers*. It's just superbly brilliant. It's just completely *bonkers*.

Like the video very much.Take care

If you momentarily allow the clutch to engage in the neutral position on the way through from low to second, while letting the revs drop as you did, you should be able to engage the higher gear without grinding, enabling a quicker and smoother gear change. Essentially double clutching/rev matching.

@highpath4776

3 жыл бұрын

One tends to need both feet on the clutch and brake bars on this.

Hi Laurie, what a strange but wonderful little engine. From watching you oil Sweet Pea, you might consider adding an oil rag to your kit. I feel for the gentlemen riding in the coach, I am sure they ate their fair share of exhaust. Cheers!!!

Now another railroad in the us I want to visit I love how it just has small locomotives

28:15 Lawrie was so despirate the get that thing started he called on the services of Lenin!

I also think you should do an episode on a tram, maybe one of the Blackpool trams. There's one Marton VAMBAC tram left at the East Anglia Transport Museum, the only operational Blackpool tram at the moment with the original twin headcode boxes. Blackpool trams are gorgeous

That looks to be much the same way as I used to have to start our 1939 John-Deere model "A" farm tractor with the exception of you have a crank handle whereas I had to grab the actual flywheel itself and spin it by hand. Its "pressure relief" was a petcock valve on the side of each of its two cylinders. Some days it'd start on the first couple of cranks. Other days it seems I'd spend an hour of cranking and wheezing for breath before it would pop off and run. :) When starting the process was to turn on the petrol so it would gravity flow down to the carburetor, set the brakes, put the gear lever in neutral, give it some throttle, pull the choke out full, open the petcocks and give it a crank until it reached a compression stroke. If luck were with me I'd get a single pop and then would push the choke halfway back in and on the next compression stroke it would fire off. Then I'd close the petcock valves, push the choke back in fully and climb aboard, release the brake sets, pull the hand clutch, select a gear and push the hand clutch forward and off I'd go, lol. It did have an electric start, but 99% of the time the 6volt battery was always dead as it was set to charge very slowly assuming that you'd be on it in the fields all day. The sound of it running at throttle was amazingly similar to the sound of that Hunslet as you came out of the tunnel. If it were slowed down to idle though, which we would set it on for splitting wood with a hydraulic splitter that coupled to the hydraulic pump in the tractor it sounded like it was going to die which was normal. It would sound like pop-POP-foof-foof-foof-foof-pop-POP. If you ever get the chance look up Hand starting a John Deere "A" sometime on youtube and you'll see and hear what I mean. :)

@lmm

2 жыл бұрын

I'll have a look, cause that sounds awesome!

@Rebel9668

2 жыл бұрын

@@lmm This one, kzread.info/dash/bejne/apVhzK6elLSwmM4.html while one size smaller than ours shows how to start and drive one pretty well. Ours was a bit more of a bear as it had a larger flywheel with teeth on the backside of it for the starter motor to engage even though we usually started it by hand anyway as the battery was usually flat. They were originally a 2 fuel tractor with two tanks as back then kerosene was much cheaper than gasoline. You'd start the tractor on gas in the small tank and when the engine warmed up you'd switch to the kerosene tank. We ran gasoline in both tanks, using the small tank as a reserve so that if we ran out of gas while mowing, plowing or whatever, we'd switch to the smaller tank and drive back up to the barn where we stored fuel.

When that engine fired, it reminded me of the sound two-cylinder John Deere tractors I ran at my first job. (Poppin' Johnnies)

Middleton is amazing. They allowed us to use their train museum Hall to study for our PTS

@lmm

2 жыл бұрын

It's a really super place!

This is the perfect loco for learning how to drive locomotives

@lmm

2 жыл бұрын

It's actually not 😂 there are much easier things out there

This little loco reminds me of the Juggernaut in ‘Ivor the Engine’, great film Lawrie :)

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes! Me too!

Great vid You really need to do an episode at bluebell it's my local one and I've been going there since I was toddler haha

Halto county radial museum in halton Ontario Canada was founded back 1954, making one oldest streetcar. It was started by 3 students that wanted to save TRC car 136 from TTC. They bought over time 1,1/4 miles of radial right of way for taxes. The museum has been operating for past 60 plus years

Lawrie it's not surprising that is hard to start by hand... The JP2 is a whopping 2.9 litre engine for all of its 22hp. And with it being only 2 cylinder, as you said, it will be harder to turn that a 4. Add into that the higher compression of a diesel and yep...It's gonna brake and break you lol. Good video regards Gary

Brilliant video on what must be the most bonkers engine ever built

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

It's an amazing little thing isn't it!

@TimEaston

Жыл бұрын

@@lmm yes it is

Who else really hoped he would stall it

amazing

The smallest standard gauge engine? Courage, the littlest Hunslet. Lawrie Goes Loco Episode Lawrie's Mechanical Marvels LOVE LOUIS SHIRLEY

Such a comfy little locomotive.

Originally worked at Courage... This is clearly the first, and maybe only, standard gauge locomotive designed to pull pints...

The Whickham Trolly is probably smaller though! Well done, I love this series! Keep it up :-)

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

Wickhams are trolleys though, and not locomotives

@thestandardfour0699

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, Thanks for clearing that up.

@lmm

3 жыл бұрын

@@thestandardfour0699 it's just a specification really, they're self propelled trolleys. Though yes, they are much smaller!

@highpath4776

3 жыл бұрын

@@lmm Riding a NG Wickham was fun at Corris Railway one evening shifting a delivery of spare rails. (basically scrap but you dont say no, as the next offer might be useful)

Lawrie should do this more, a railway enthusiasts gym starting a diesels handstart

@lmm

Жыл бұрын

Cheaper than gym membership

Lawrie, what they didn't tell you is that the engine is a fake. There's a big clock-spring in there that you need to wind up, and that's why it takes so long to "start".