The fact that we can't get these games competently on modern platforms without doing bullshit is bullshit

@leithaziz2716

Жыл бұрын

Game Preservation is important. Who woulda thunk?

@AceRevero

Жыл бұрын

@@leithaziz2716 STRONGLY AGREE. Hopefully some companies like Microsoft can continue to preserve their older games, or at least, a new VG company branded, to save older games through Emulation and Preserving.

@raccoonofmotivation20

Жыл бұрын

Konami's fault

@leosklein2573

Жыл бұрын

God I know. If any games should be preserved, it's the SH Series

@RippahRooJizah

Жыл бұрын

@@AceRevero Microsoft can only do so much, and while I will give them props, all they're doing is porting. But given their position and the lack of major architecture shifts (unlike Sony), they are in the best position to do what they are currently doing. Not really sure what's Nintendo's excuse outside of using Disney Vault Tactics. Granted, no separate "company" could ever do what you want through emulation. Too many legal issues. Too many games to consider. At best, a museum.

"You have to stop him" like Woolie was about to achieve his anime villain arc

@TheGunboat

27 күн бұрын

“He must not win.”

I love how the internet spoke to pat and said "HE MUST BE STOPPED". Funniest thing I've seen in a while.

@shinluis

Жыл бұрын

And maybe surprisingly, or maybe just as expected, Pat was summoned and answered the calls

@locke2517

Жыл бұрын

Imagine if he decided to say no and let the world burn.

@Fasumbra

Жыл бұрын

Raiden sending messages to his past self trying to prevent the Jankening.

@locke2517

Жыл бұрын

The jankening is strong

@riddlemethat5597

Жыл бұрын

Big "MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM" energy, especially considering people went and got Paige, and then Paige went and got Pat.

Reggie's spanish dub of SH3 is the most exciting thing I've seen since the Dominican Dragon Ball dub

@leithaziz2716

Жыл бұрын

Right next to the "El Donte, Le Exterminator De Demonios" gag

@zhitchcresttail3387

Жыл бұрын

I was amazed at how easily he just pulled it out

Reggie is the king of lps atm Woolie lucked out with reggie

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

He's like the Matt to his Pat

I love that pat speaks pretty good québécois and still resorts to "mucho bad-o"

When Pat and Woolie tries to speak spanish: *Oh no, cringee (in spanish)* When Reggie does it: Sí Señor, vamoooo!

@MiloKuroshiro

Жыл бұрын

Rigtt? I was happily impressed with Reggie!!

@HazielBlack

Жыл бұрын

@@MiloKuroshiro when did he speak spanish?

@death2boredom338

Жыл бұрын

@@HazielBlack in the Silent Hill 3 playthrough, should be in ep 1 and make some reappearances as well

Playing through the Silent Hill games a few years ago was the first time I had to learn how to emulate games. Was a great learning experience. Thanks Konami!

@ironeleven

Жыл бұрын

I remember the SH3 PC port being fine but finding the SH2 port so broken I wound up emulating the PS2 version.

@Horatio787

Жыл бұрын

You're stronger now... you're stronger...

I love pat explaining how emulation and pirating is almost required for some games. "Yeah, to play the fate/stay night translation, everyone TOTALLY bought a physical copy of a a Japanese game off some Japanese only site to LEGALLY rip their copy for the translation patch".

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

Being a Touhou Project fan this is also painfully accurate. Buying ANYTHING Japanese that isn't already ported to Steam is just f u n, thanks doujinsoft monopolies

"Mi nombre es Reggie, El Exterminador de Demonios"

Silent Hill 3 is honestly the best in the series for me personally. Heather's entire character is one of the best I've ever seen.

@doctordoom85

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It’s the scariest for me, each area is frightening and interesting, the ambience and audio are just god-tier, the whole cast is great, and Heather is my favorite lead due to her snarkiness (James is the more complex I will admit). I also feel people downplay the psychological elements compared to 2, there’s a lot of imagery and audio that ties into pregnancy, rape/predators, etc. that I feel people overlook or don’t give credit to.

@Comkill117

Жыл бұрын

I like too how the further into the game you get the less and less she’s putting up with Silent Hill’s BS.

@thelaughingrouge

Жыл бұрын

Heather seems the most like a real person in the entire franchise.

@aspaceproductions

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, i think it's crazy how many people act like SH2 is untouchable. Not saying it can't be zomeones personal favorite. But that they always try to undermine SH1 and 3. SH 2 and 3 are equally good IMO. They both have different goals and they both achieve those goals amazingly well.

@BareBandSubscription

Жыл бұрын

@@aspaceproductions That’s because SH2 is much more restrained and complex, thematically and emotionally, than SH3. SH2 is more about silent dread, grief, the psychology of it’s characters, and even leaves you with a very conflicted impression of it’s lead character, who was already a spaced out weirdo to begin with. SH3 is much more straightforward with it’s protagonist and narrative, not quite as subtle with it’s themes and motifs, not quite as deep or impactful, and the horror is way more visceral and adrenaline-spiking. I could easily see SH3 being people’s favorite (for years, it actually was the fan favorite before SH2’s big reappraisal), but SH2 is a much more impressive achievement on an artistic level, in my opinion. That’s why it gets all the roses. SH3 is notably a bit more superficial and to-the-point, and it plays it safe, which is exactly what people wanted it to be after SH2.

I think an important detail about us hitting a slowdown in graphical improvements is that graphics are still improving, but they're in the small details and lighting, which do matter greatly but our brains can fill in missing detail surprisingly well, that's why some people imagine older games as being so much better than they were sometimes. They're filling in the gaps in their mind, some people might forget that all of the 3D gta games had the fused fingers, or that older zelda games didn't have eyeballs just textures slapped on a wooden face. We're getting to the point where differences are so hard to comprehend that they can only really be seen with a side by side comparison.

@PredictableEnigma

Жыл бұрын

Those games also look way better on CRT monitors than LCD monitors. The games were developed on them and the blending looks totally different

Shout out to the Silent Hill 2: Enhanced Edition team. Look up Town of Silent Hill on here. I'm a PS2/GHs purist, but the work they've done is honestly incredible. So for SH2 specifically, I'd definitely put that as a viable option as well.

I always saw the heather dream sequence at the start as a bit of a parallel to Harry's in sh1. Shit's gonna get fucked later, here's a taste of what's to come. Now wake up in a Diner.

@joshuareesor1756

Жыл бұрын

A bunch of things in 3 parallel 1, which makes sense given the nature of cycles being a constant theme throughout 3. Even Heather getting run over by the rollercoaster could be seen as a callback to Harry almost running over Alessa in the into to 1; we just see it from the opposite perspective this time.

@nackskott12

Жыл бұрын

I always really liked the switch-up from 1, to 2, to 3. SH1 has an extremely iconic dream sequence at the beginning that was so good they remade it shot for shot in the movie. Then in SH2 you expect a similar intro with some scary stuff immediately, but instead you get a long, uncomfortable stroll into town where nothing overtly threatening happens. It just FEELS wrong. Then in SH3 you might be expecting more of SH2, which the game subverts by giving you a cold-open that's intentionally confusing this time around to really fuck with you. Then the game spins you around a few times, smacks you on the ass and says “go do some exploring, dummy.” They realized that if the beginning sequences were too similar it'd create a mental safety-net against the horror. It shouldn't be that big of a deal but it's so difficult to do good horror sequels because of this problem, so I love that SH consistently avoided it in each of the 4 games.

@planguy9575

Жыл бұрын

I believe in replays Heather also starts by jerking awake from a nightmare, just like Harry in Silent Hill 1.

It's not even the fact that SH3 is an impressive jump in 4 years from SH1's release; it's the fact that SH3 is still a better looking game than the majority of games (even AAA) that comes out today. Fuck, you can compare SH3 to ALL OTHER SH games that came after it and the graphical superiority/competence that SH3 shows off, even with its much more limited polygons, is apparent. SH3 looks fantastic in comparison to Homecoming or Downpour.

@casanovafunkenstein5090

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree. There's a particular stiffness to most PS360 face animations that isn't there in the classic Silent Hill games. Assuming you can look past the mouth movements those games still hold up visually, even the first one has great art design. Oddly even Shattered Memories on the wii has more natural looking faces than the later entries

@slifer875

Жыл бұрын

i would argue SH4 looks as good as SH3 but its the popular thing to shit on that game.....

@Khotgor

Жыл бұрын

@@slifer875 Oh no, I love Silent Hill 4. It's my 3rd Favourite SH game and its texturing is very good in a lot of ways (and can mimic SH3's blood textures later on in a particular late-game 'dungeon'). We're just talking about SH3. The Comparison was more so towards Post TS (although the lighting in SH4 is lesser than SH3's, mostly as a sacrifice to the lack of flashlight. Still makes good use of lighting in a number of areas however).

@riddlemethat5597

Жыл бұрын

4 still looks good. Giant Face Hallway still holds up.

@chaoko99

Жыл бұрын

Incredible argument for style over graphical fidelity

"I was pressing 'Back (Select)' for inventory and Triangle for map... 'That's not right.'" Yes it is. Well, it's default SH1 controls, at least.

as an american, i did a double take with this clip title

@Iffem

Жыл бұрын

hilarious how america's "silent majority" is actually a very loud minority who have such a poor sense of empathy that they think that everyone is as big of douchbags as they are

Makes sense you start with an uzi, if you're going to silent hill you've got to get ready.

Silent hill is definitely one of the Jogos

@Wanna_Be_Desu

Жыл бұрын

And a quite Mysterious one too!

@posteriorpepperoni

Жыл бұрын

What a mysterious Collecíon HD

I don’t think anyone can be mad or annoyed at the HD Collection shenanigans when it brought us one of the funniest moments on stream in a long time. It was well worth it.

Don't you let anyone tell you that Silent Hill 3 in the HD collection isn't as broken as Silent Hill 2. If anything it's worse. I had frequent crashes in Silent Hill 3 HD.

The PC version of Silent Hill 3 is totally fine out of the box. There are fan patches for widescreen support and also for restoring some content that was in the PS2 version that was cut from the PC version (mostly cut voice lines from previous games), but otherwise, it's the best version besides playing on PS2. I would HIGHLY recommend Woolie use it in the future, even if it means replaying some.

@RippahRooJizah

Жыл бұрын

IIRC those cut voice lines was due to some legal issue.

@raydaug4633

Жыл бұрын

@@RippahRooJizah That is correct. Even back in Silent Hill 1 Konami didn't know how to handle voice actor contracts. However, the involved parties have already received a settlement from Konami and the PC version is abandonware anyway, so I personally don't see any harm in restoring them.

@zummone

Жыл бұрын

It's fine but not by any means perfect, as it's lacking some PS2 quirks like depth of field and variable sfx, although it has some quirks like improved lighting and textures. I feel that without a digital foundry dive in people will continue perpetrating the PC version being just the console version but better, like what happened with MGS1, which although a far worse case, it's still a damn disgrace and no patch in the world can help that cursed version.

@raydaug4633

Жыл бұрын

@@zummone It's not perfect, not, but it's more than good enough. To be perfectly honest, the way that the PC and PS2 versions differ are pretty minor and you won't really notice them unless you are a crazy person like me and have a PS2 hooked up and are running the PS2 and PC versions literally side by side. You have to know to look for the differences. I find the times when emulation glitches out to be more distracting than the missing effects. Especially compared to emulation, the PC version is just easier and more stable to run in a streaming environment.

@Painocus

Жыл бұрын

@@zummone Hasn't at least DoF been modded back?

Hearing Pat and Woolz trying to speak spanish after hearing Reggie speak it so fluently it's so funny

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

It's even funnier with how much they get on English speakers for French pronunciations while they just bumbleking over a language they're also not familiar with (When Spanish is more common here in the states!)

Personally I'm eagerly awaiting the emulator to screw up during a major story moment or scare for stream funnies

@Dasaltwarrior

Жыл бұрын

Thank you emotion engine

@SeruraRenge11

Жыл бұрын

I mean if they're playing in PCSX2 then SH3 has run fine for years now.

@kapkant6197

Жыл бұрын

​@@SeruraRenge11 The black magic clearly in play from the pre stream will show otherwise

Why are the thumbnails and names so fucking good

Woolie's first mistake was looking for a version to buy, implying he's going to give konami money instead of getting the "free" version P) P) P)

I like to think that in the worldline where Pat didn't spring to action and stop the HD Collection, the seal was broken on the disc and all the lights in the sky went out.

I’m glad Reggie is enjoying this juego.

Emulating Konami games is totally moral since Konami has made it abundantly clear they don't want gamer money.

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

They've been drunk on pachinko money for over a decade

I'm so glad I don't live in the parallel timeline where Pat decided to passively sabotage the LP by not warning Woolie about the HD Collection. Also, suck it, alternate universe me!

Bro I got banned from the silent hill sub Reddit for asking if the hd collection is worth it. Don’t buy it 😂

Amazing start, on every level.

impressive effort with the spanish! actually you had very good pronunciations

hardly diminishing returns, merely just the game cycles of suffering and innovation

Silent Hill 2 & 3 run great on PCSX2 with the resolution increased to 1080p. I have had zero issues with default settings.

Though it really is crazy how fast time moves forward, Pat exaggerates a bit. Dead Space is as far as FF6 was for it 2022->2008 Now->Dead Space 2008->1994 Dead Space->Final Fantasy VI It's a while until FF3. In fact, the gaming history has, like, another curve of this timeskip 1994->1980 FF6->Pong & Space Invades & stuff

me personally, i'm excited for sakura at least, if not the sh2 remake so much.

5:01 is that what we’re callin Vimms now

The biggest slap in the dick of 3's remaster is them using different voices.

just saw him play 3 so knew theyd talk about it

I would love a gaem jorno easy mode for my horror games that start me with 10 grenades, a rocket launcher, 2 full clip assault rifles and a faithful doggo companion. That way I can obliterate everything and go find little details and explore the haunted house with the lights on.

can anyone attest to whether part 1 or the first stream of his silent hill 3 playthrough is the original or the hd collection, i dont wish to pop in there hear yukiko and wretch

@Iffem

Жыл бұрын

woolie only got as far as the title screen with the HD collection, iirc playthru is all non-hd, though

@mr.e3123

Жыл бұрын

@@Iffem bless ty

GOG has Silent Hill 4 and for some reason only Silent Hill 4.

Whatever fucked up monster thing left an Uzi in the hospital probably got fired and blacklisted from the entire psycho horror otherworld industry

the good jogo

The pc version of 3 is widely available as abandon ware and easy to fix (check pcgamingwiki). Silent hill 2 pc now has an installer for its awesome enhanced edition fix mod, so even someone with extremely minimal modding knowledge can get it working. Get the games, don’t pay for them, fuck Konami.

The silent hill 3 pc version is incredibly easy to fix and play

Pat's spanish has not improved since the DmC LP 😔

3 HD version is actually worse. Theres no original voice acting available. Sounds are also fucked. Textures? Fucked.

Reminder that the devs of 3 stated multiple times that the monsters have no real meaning unlike 2.

@joshuareesor1756

Жыл бұрын

By the devs, do you mean Masahiro Ito, since he only designed 5 of the monsters and left the rest up to other staff members so he could focus as the art director and background designer? As that's the only source I've ever heard for that claim. While he had a significant impact on the game, I don't think he gets to be the last word on designs made by other people. That statement most likely means that Ito told other people to make some monsters to fight without giving clear directions. So they made monsters themselves without conveying their intentions to him beyond the physical design getting approval. He doesn't know if they made the monsters without specific meaning, so he defaults to them being made without any, as his intentions were just to make creatures to fight. Other members of Team Silent also didn't know the whole symbolism and inspiration behind Ito's designs for SH2 before compiling it all into the Lost Memories book, so there is precedence for this. Also, I have no idea how you could come up with a monster like the Pendulum without having some symbolic meaning to inspire its creation (mainly the focus on cycles and dualism that is present throughout 3).

@slifer875

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuareesor1756 i love how the people behind silent hill are sick and tired of the fan base and their ridiculous fan theories. Its the fucking best.

@neonfatum

Жыл бұрын

Even in 2 there's Ito basing the weird fleshy straight-jacket monster on someone walking into the office with a hoodie on and their hands in its pockets. And the Numb Bodies in SH3 don't even look phallic, they look more like fleshy xenomorphs with a hole for a face. The fact is, it's just not always that "deep", and Team Silent doesn't really go for low-hanging fruit like that with their symbolism anyway. I think that generally the extent to which SH3 is intended to be an exploration of girls' and women's fears and puberty, sexuality, etc. is very overstated. The game isn't about Heather and womanhood quite in the same way that SH2 is about James, Mary and grief and guilt. There are some elements like that in the game, but I wouldn't say that much of the game is centred around a type of "universal female experience", to the extent that that's even a real thing. Heather also never comes across as particularly troubled or insecure or afraid of men or anything of that sort. It really is mostly just about her trying to save herself and the world from the scary horror cult and it's about as contingent on her being female as any of the other SH games are on their protagonist being male. I think the SH fanbase is just too far up its own arse generally and not half as smart as they think they are, let alone as smart as the devs. The overanalysis of these games by people who are too interested in finding some nonexistent piece of symbolism in some random texture or model or whatever takes away from what the games are really about.

@XyerDark

Жыл бұрын

@@joshuareesor1756 While Ito is the one more open about it, there's been other devs talking about it through the years (and I think even when the strategy guide was made), the Pendulum does in fact have no meaning according to Ito, not because someone else made it, but because they weren't making a psychological horror. The Insane Cancer is another example, as it was the only monster made by the game director and it's just some fat guy. The real star of the game in this regard is Valtiel.

@joshuareesor1756

Жыл бұрын

@@XyerDark Just because 3 doesn't focus on psychological horror like 2 doesn't mean its monsters hold no meaning. The monsters in 1 had meaning without being overly psychological; they were just Alessa's direct fears and interests, like Alessa being scared of dogs, so there are dog monsters, or Alessa being bullied by her school peers, so there are child monsters. 3's meaning is more related to the concepts present throughout (such as the aforementioned themes of cycles and dualism) or the plot details of Alessa's past, the cult and the god's birth. And I'm not saying every monster needs to be built with explicit meaning or purpose to the overall game. 2 had the Creeper enemies that only acted as an homage to 1 and the remaining power of Silent Hill itself, having no relation to James. The sewer monster in 3 seems to just be there as a callback to 1's bloodsucker enemy as a roadblock in the second level that Heather needs to puzzle her way past (though that does tie into the whole "cycle of repetition" the entire game embodies). I just don't think it's a stretch to say the game's themes and the story impacted how the designer's created the monsters, with them reflecting elements of that within their design. Even if they weren't as specific as 1 or 2's, they were made with more thought than just "make a spooky monster to fight."

Like.

Do any of you hep tech cats know how to get one's hands on PT without resorting to a PC remake these days?

Wow Woolie thinks every white chick looks alike...

Sheer curiosity, why are they so like skitterish or avoiding saying pirate the game or anything like close? Is it a legal or youtube thing?

@GameBooAdvancePlus

Жыл бұрын

It's better to err on the side of caution. Plausable deniability and all that, should a multi-billion dollar company puts them on a dartboard.

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

@@GameBooAdvancePlus Then we got people like James Steph being like "It's legal and moral to pirate Nintendo games" on the title of one of their videos, which I have noticed Pat has mentioned James/Jim Sterling a lot less

Remember that time when the Punisher discovered the funny spanish word and there was a huge force from it?

The one moment earlier this year I was going to spend $100 on the silent Hill HD collection for my PlayStation 4, I desperately wanted to play because I didn't want Downpour to be the S-H game I played and I blew my only chance. I pre-ordered Elden Ring to play with my elder brother and I hated it because I couldn't play with him do to, he had PS5 and I had a PS4. How're we supposed to know it wouldn't work?

Starting this week off with getting a microaggression from Pat, goddamn what a good one

@Abdega

Жыл бұрын

Pat usually just does straight up aggression so I guess this is an improvement 🤷‍♀️

@appo5

Жыл бұрын

red man small

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

"Spanish? How DARE he."

@catharticgemini

Жыл бұрын

@@Trynt33 eh more like the "Welcome to Revachol!" But valid

@Abdega

Жыл бұрын

@@catharticgemini ¡Bienvenido a Revachol!

What's wrong with HD collection

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

Komani lost the gold masters, so the games run off older beta code... and then the devs decided to redo a ton of textures(poorly). And then there's the whole thing with them replacing the voice acting.

@RippahRooJizah

Жыл бұрын

Look up TRSHE HD collection. You should find 2 videos totaling 2 hours going over what's wrong with the HD collection.

@Khotgor

Жыл бұрын

> Bad Sound, where certain Sounds are often mixed and moved around badly (such as the sound of enemy walking with metal grate, or the siren horns from SH2's museum staircase being replaced entirely) > Bad Music, where the music is chopped and mixed around where it is often subpar and janky in comparison > Some of the textures are bad; certain textures such as the infamous Teeth are Eyes in SH2 during the Pyramid Head Final Boss scene, where a certain character has a 'void for a mouth' and their teeth replaces an eye... that and other elements, such as overtly 'clean' roads, general texture fuck-ups in the environment... changing the mile numbers of the street signs at the beginning of SH2. This is even more important in SH3, since texturing in SH3 is so... so important, due to its higher emphasis on it, and it fucks up even more so than SH2's ''''''''HD''''''''' Collection. (Don't want to spoil it, but the effects of 'moving blood' on the caged 'bodies' at the start of SH3 in the amusement park become more and more common with its moving textures... and the HD Collection fucks it up in a number of ways as the game continues to use that 'texturing trick') > Voices are overrated; SH2 is generally filled with 'weirdos' (on purpose), but also has generally believable people. Same goes for SH3, more emphasis on normal (protagonist/douglas) than some other characters; the characters that revoiced tried to be "ANIME EMOTION EXAGERATION" where every character emphasizes now too much breathing/sighing/over-emoting gasps in Every. Fucking. Scene... but the characters now sound like Actors acting like Characters, and not like either Weirdos or Normal people. > SH3 has a big fuck-up with the voices in that certain voices are not entirely lost; old voices were not removed in its entirety. Some of the old voices are simply 'lowered' in volume with the new voices overlaying it, or the infamous 'heather death scream', where heather's OG voice is still heard when she gets, say, run over by a roller coaster, and is not voiced by the new actress. > Slowdown and Glitches. Heather has an 'underground' portion that on certain game consoles the player will LAG to SHIT, with the game being almost twice as slow; she is able to jump off edges onto the ground below her that would generally in the OG game be about 'a second', but the HD Collection is more like 3/4 seconds. It also affects her movement. There is other stuff in the town itself where it gets super slowed down. Not to mention there is a portion where the game can just outright crash if they go to certain spots of the game > Fog. The Fog is totally fucked in both games, but not in the same way all the time? SH2's fog is way too far away in the HD collection, to the point where it ruins some environmental assets (such as seeing the ropes abruptly end in the sky at the docks when it was hidden by the fog... or the water, god the fucking water looks like shit due to the lack of Fog). It also affected the Fog in SH3 as well in a number of ways (though I can't remember 'in what ways', but it was pretty bad). > Stupid Bullshit. There are some other elements such as how the game gets more and more fucked the more fucking achievements/trophies you get, to the point where the game is unplayable if you somehow get 100%. The drama surrounding the HD Collection due to Konami and Tomm Hulett (the guy was responsible for most of the modern SH games in some capacity or another), amongst a variety of other bullshit. The HD Collection is Bad. Even with the patches that they threw in, there were a number of patches that often fixed certain bugs/elements 'half-way', and others that broke it in new ways. Some of the HD Collection variants are more fucked up still than others, and some elements such as texturing and such are stilled fucked. Don't Play the HD Collection.

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

It's like if Skyrim on PS3 was every game on an Elder Scrolls collection and caused your save to corrupt days earlier

I haven't paid attention that much to Woolie's adventures in emulation, but none of this clusterfuck would have happened if you had just kept a working PS2 around. In my small-ish city of 100K, there are 2 separate vintage gaming shops, one of which has nearly an entire pallets of old gaming hardware ready to sell, along with shit tons of their respective generation's classic games. Maybe Woolie has some technical reason why just going with the original hardware and game isn't a viable option, IDK.

@ddd7038

Жыл бұрын

Look up how much those games are going on the second hand market

@matrix3509

Жыл бұрын

@@ddd7038 Ehh, its around $150 on ebay right now. Not amazing by any means, but far from the worst I've seen. Thats the advantage of the brick-and-mortar, locally owned vintage game stores, as they have very little relationship with online used games markets. Back when I bought my permanent copy of the greatest hits version of SH2, which was only 5 years ago, I went to my local shop and picked it up for $45.

Pat, i prey you don't have to discover how wrong you are about teens.

3 worked..... I hated the voices... but it worked

@at0micl0bster

Жыл бұрын

Then it didn’t work

@blackmagemasher4031

Жыл бұрын

@@at0micl0bster Does on PS3........

@clanofclams2720

Жыл бұрын

Voices are great

@blackmagemasher4031

Жыл бұрын

@@clanofclams2720 They are great voice actors, and Claudia now fits the OST (i LOVE SH3's OST). I still think the original Heather was SO much better, like original Douglas and Vincent more too... I think I liked that I don't hear them anywhere else, it made the game feel more unique

@clanofclams2720

Жыл бұрын

@@blackmagemasher4031 oh wait were you talking about the HD collection voices lol

Im glad woolie didn't stop because of pat.

@Trynt33

Жыл бұрын

Woolie would've just stopped due to his own disinterest

@damonsghost9235

Жыл бұрын

@@Trynt33 He's still playing.