The Shining Miniseries - The Cinema Snob
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The Cinema Snob tackles the 1997 Miniseries version of Stephen King's classic novel The Shining, and sees how it compares to the 1980 adaptation.
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Love the ending with all four cats. RIP Lloyd & Chloe. Welcome Burt & Pearl!
@Mate397
11 ай бұрын
Lloyd passed away? :O When?
@TheFaustianMan
11 ай бұрын
@@Mate397 A few months ago. Brad decided to have a kid instead of getting another cat. Because kids generally live a little longer. But then got the cats too.
@Mate397
11 ай бұрын
@@TheFaustianMan I see.
@sarah98917
10 ай бұрын
Poor Lloyd
@lumpchunker5516
10 ай бұрын
@TheFaustianMan That's basically how we did things too. After our beloved kitties died, we finally decided to have a kid. ... ... ... And then we brought another rescue kitten home too, because what even is life without a naughty li'l fuzzgoblin to play with the baby?
Here’s hoping the best for your child to come out the healthiest little fella to be brought into this world, Brad.😌
@k-trashradio5163
11 ай бұрын
Brad will be a great dad junior will be well versed in the works of Kubrick before he's even 8
@humanwolf1984
11 ай бұрын
My hope is she doesn't give birth to the Antichrist by Accident. 😉😈
@AndrewMiller-yo7bd
11 ай бұрын
It will come out bald with glasses
@ZER0O9
11 ай бұрын
Cinema dad
@AndrewMiller-yo7bd
11 ай бұрын
He will need to find matching onesies
Watching him start from an angry man in the basement til gray hairs and future father. The Snob will always be my favorite movie reviewer.
@LucasMartins-dy6no
10 ай бұрын
How many reviewers lost the touch through the years, snob is still amazing.
The ending was great Lloyd and Chloe partying forever
I am convinced the only reason to copyright-claim this was because the people that made it didn't want anyone to see Danny's horrible acting
@adamdenby1282
10 ай бұрын
That or the grass animals
@defender2222
10 ай бұрын
@@adamdenby1282the animals have an excuse for looking not real and exhibiting no signs of life
@whatsit2ya234
10 ай бұрын
Hey hey now!!! Danny's acting was fine 4 me. I don't 👀 why people hate on this kid so much. Did this kid tweet out something offensive later i life that im unaware of? Is that why there is so much hate 4 him?
@defender2222
10 ай бұрын
@@whatsit2ya234there is so much hatred for him because he's not a good actor. His delivery is utterly Warden, the stupid speaky lisp that he has makes his words come out as slurred which makes it hard to follow them at times, he plays it up way too much as precocious little child and he is utterly annoying to the point that, as the snob says, your kind of rooting for Jack to kill the character thanks to him
@whatsit2ya234
10 ай бұрын
@@defender2222 3 words in defense of the actor: llyod in space. That's right. I cant hate a kid who gave us llyod. I 💘 that little 👽!!! Wouldn't it have been great 2 👀 a cartoon wherein llyod the 👽 was a client of llyod the 🐱? Now thats a cartoon crossover I would 💘!!!!! Maybe lloyd the 🐱 could discover why it was that cheerleader 👽 didn't want 2 date llyod.
Damn, that ending with Lloyd, goosebumps man, almost shed a tear 😢
@mikehall7189
10 ай бұрын
Mick Garris is king’s puppet. He will never deviate from what king wrote, that’s why he likes him so and that’s the weakness of Garris. Please do a langoliers retrospective. Hilarity will ensure.
That ending kind of tears me up. Weird how I feel attached to two animals I never met.
@titusmccarthy
10 ай бұрын
it was schmaltzy as hell. No tears.
@minxstole93
10 ай бұрын
Dude, I shed a tear when I saw it too! But then I laughed because Brad singing "We are Siamese" to the tune of "Midnight and the stars and you" was hilarious!
The Shinnin
@Advent3546
11 ай бұрын
Shh! You wanna get sued?
@Mike-qz4by
11 ай бұрын
@@Advent3546was waiting for that
@jmsmys13ify
11 ай бұрын
@@Advent3546Damn. Beat me to it. How old do we need to be to understand that reference?
@DigiRangerScott
11 ай бұрын
All toys and no boys makes Danny something something
@julesrules7297
11 ай бұрын
"Feelin' Fine."
Congratulations on your upcoming fatherhood, Brad! May you and your family have a happy and healthy life together!
An entire hour of The Cinema Snob? Yes please and thank you.
This mini series goes to show that accurate doesn't mean better.
@titusmccarthy
10 ай бұрын
YUP!
@graygarrison3114
10 ай бұрын
@@titusmccarthyWell sometimes that is true I guess it depends on how well it is written for a series after all Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events did an excellent job for a TV at being accurate.
@Attmay
10 ай бұрын
See also: *Annie* and *Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory* The problem with every Stephen King adaptation IS Stephen King.
@daxmiller35
10 ай бұрын
@@graygarrison3114yeah, but 31:34…Rebecca deHor-nay
@kenon6968
9 ай бұрын
Kubrick adapted the dread, not the book
I think Nicholson being a clearly abusive father is still my favorite Jack Torrence, but man when this Jack shows up at the end for Danny's graduation, that feels like the Jack Torrence that wanted to free himself in Dr. Sleep.
@evilsWa
10 ай бұрын
I see someone has read a conspiracy theory that they think is true and so now it's "clearly" what the story is about. You are a unique rebel Lewis
@lewislabuff8862
10 ай бұрын
@@evilsWa well shit, I ain't gonna make up one, just like every other logical person I just regurgitate what I read.
Best wishes on being a new father, Brad! And so sorry about Lloyd and Chloe.
I just know Brad is anticipating the day he can show his son Caligula
"even the real people are acting off-putting" sir that describes just about every Mick Garris movie and that was spot on.
@Melvinshermen
11 ай бұрын
Speak of Which can Brad the rest Mick garris and Stephen king ones. And also maybe non Stephen king Mick garris stuff
The real Shining were the cats we hugged along the way.
Oh great, his cats are now canonically time travelers.
So you know how Topher Grace decided to teach himself editting by cutting the Star Wars prequels into an 85 minute film? I wonder how this miniseries would play out if someone did the same thing, just cutting it down to a 2 and a half hour movie.
The actor playing Danny in this has the Innsmouth Look. The fish lips plus the bowl cut is brutal to look at. I looked him up, courtland mead. He looks okay now. He quit acting a few years after this.
@typacsk
11 ай бұрын
I had to do some digging to figure out why I knew that name--turns out he voiced Gus in the "Recess" cartoons
@boogerbrains138
11 ай бұрын
It's uh-huh!
@noahalliston3838
11 ай бұрын
🤣 couldn't stand this cow eyed fish lipped kid when I first saw this in the 90's.
I never even considered calling a character actor a "Bob-like," but damn if Courtland Mead doesn't fit that bill to a tee.
Don't be reading Brad's mind between 4:00 and 5:00, that's the Snob's time.
@julesrules7297
11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
I was 10 or 11 and I was pumped to watch this when it premiered. I remember the tv guide coverage of it which included the introductory short story by King. Just one of my formative horror moments in between Goosebumps books.
@thenextrung
10 ай бұрын
I was 14 and I felt like that as well.
I genuinely teared up a little, even as I laughed, while watching the homage with Lloyd in the picture and Brad's bad singing 🥲
The actor who played Ullman really impressed me. He has only one big scene but he seemed really into his character.
As a fan of the novel, I do prefer this over Kubrick's version (even though I think its a solid film if not necessarily a good adaptation)...but there are a few key things that would have made it a lot better: 1. If they didn't show Tony fully until near the end and had him more mysterious for most of the series 2. If they put more effort into the cgi (even by mid 90s standards it was kinda bad) and only use it when they couldn't do practical effects 3. If they made it for a cable network who would've let them keep the R-rated edge of the novel 4. If they had trimmed it down to two parts instead of three so that the tension was better maintained
@chrisbowers7523
10 ай бұрын
Wait, we don't need a a great version of this movie , it already exist Stanley Kubrick version there is no contest need while jack was OK it still does not work for for this version of the shining.
@DocZFlux
10 ай бұрын
@@chrisbowers7523it’s a good movie on its own, but a shit adaptation of a great novel
@bobbybeard1497
10 ай бұрын
@@DocZFluxthe fact it's a better film shows that it's a better adaptation. The book may be a great novel but it's still a book, a different medium. Just because something works in a book doesn't mean it will work on film. Kubrick took what he could from the novel and crafted a masterpiece, this miniseries was so obsessed with being accurate that it ended up a boring, bloated, incoherent mess.
@DocZFlux
10 ай бұрын
@@bobbybeard1497um…no…Kubrick flat out refused to do a faithful adaptation because that would’ve clashed with his predetermined narrative about cabin fever he had decided on before he even saw the novel. The novel is scarier because you care way more for the characters in it and I feel having no ambiguity about the ghosts is far more frightening because how do you combat something that defies “a logical explanation”?
@linksbetweendrinks7032
10 ай бұрын
I love the book, but the miniseries is just a slog to get through. A writer and a screenwriter are not the same thing. There's just no point in watching this when you can just read the far superior novel. In my opinion, at least.
I really love the effort you put into your reviews finding and inserting the tv spots or relevant commercials. They make it so fun! Extra good luck with baby!
A great Monday has been made thanks to Brad!
" Danny isn't so much the Danny Torrance of the film. No, no, he's gonna be the *_Bob_* ." I love that after all these years, you still have to get a little dig at Giovanni. We all have those performances that annoy us to no end.
@crimsondynamo615
10 ай бұрын
Bob will never leave us, much like that *one* ET.
@kenon6968
9 ай бұрын
@@crimsondynamo615 thanks for reminding me of that little piece of nightmare fuel
@DebbieSueSteele
8 ай бұрын
Can somebody fill me in on Bob?
@kenon6968
8 ай бұрын
@@DebbieSueSteele Giovanni Frezza, the final boss of shity child actors... specifically in Fulci's house by the cemetery
@DebbieSueSteele
8 ай бұрын
@kenon6968 OK, I knew it had something to do with a bad child actor...Bob, Cousin Oliver, the kid from "The Shining" miniseries, Quinn Cummings...Bob must be very special to outshine the rest. Thanks very much for your time!
That "your gonna be a regular on Kirk" line had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@hew2356
10 ай бұрын
True horror 😬
I remember liking this as a kid, but I wasn't comparing it to the movie. Do a video on Storm of the Century next.
In keeping with the spirit of The Shining; Brad should say this to his newborn child: “Here’s daddy!!!”
I will pay money for a Shining Cat Twins tshirt
Okay, now I’m CONVINCED Brad adopted the Delightful Children from Kids Next Door to be his new cats.
I'm so glad this is back. I wonder how many Snob episodes are in copyright limbo
@livesdoxa
10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately a lot
@robotrix
3 ай бұрын
@livesdoxa Not if you know where to look
I missed out on the news. Congrats, Brad and Laura. ❤
Brad! I love the ending!! Chloe and Lloyd ❤❤❤
I actually really liked the ending, it feels like a nice bit of closure for Danny that he never got with his father. That and the fact that it's the nice version of him that's actually proud of him makes it a really wholesome ending for me
@DocZFlux
10 ай бұрын
I really liked the Dr Sleep movie, but I do wish we had a poignant closure moment with Jack’s ghost instead of doubling down on how Kubrick’s Jack seemed to really hate his family to begin with
@carlossaraiva8213
10 ай бұрын
That ending is gringy enough to be in a mexiczn telenovela. Also the subtext is "if your dad is an alcholic, guilt trip him to suicide and you will live the rest of your life guilt free and happy". What an aesop!
@scarletcroc3821
10 ай бұрын
@@carlossaraiva8213 with your level of media literacy you should apply to Cinemasins
@motor4X4kombat
9 ай бұрын
@@DocZFlux that the problem with the film, it tries to be both faithfull to the books but also a sequel to kubricks film.
@matthewmedley8532
4 ай бұрын
Yes enjoyed the ending. quite moving. Like Wendy’s character in it too. Much more faithful to the book.
You should do Rose Red, Storm of the Century or Kingdom Hospital, which are very underrated Stephen King miniseries that's actually very good
@cristyablad
11 ай бұрын
Kingdom Hospital is my favorite but using the term "mini-series" (although it is) just feels wrong. It's long, like regular tv series season long. Really fun though! To this day I can't hear "Red Dragon Tattoo" without getting the side eye that something awful is about to happen!
@magicalpasta5462
11 ай бұрын
@@cristyablad and the song nah nah, hey hey good bye is classic
@cristyablad
11 ай бұрын
@@magicalpasta5462 the use of "Where's Your Head At?!" was a bit... ON THE NOSE. HAAAAAAAAAAAA
@bleakautomaton4808
11 ай бұрын
It's too bad it's difficult to find Storm of the Century without just getting a dvd of it. Was it ever on a streaming service? There are too many streaming channels and broken up movie collections over multiple streaming subscriptions.
❤ you Brad. Idk what I'd do without a good late-night Cinema Snob!
Especially when Jack peers into the window of the replica of the hotel, and says, “Say, I wouldn’t mind living in here. It’s small enough for one person-and not enough room, for an annoying child who doesn’t use his coasters!!”
Man Spoony did a great job playing Jack in this miniseries.
This was great! There are several episodes of yours that I've watched over over, this will be one of them 😂
I'll say that at least with this version we see Torrance's slow descent into madness instead of the already unhinged Nicholson (believe me I LOVE Kubrik's adaptation it's one of my favorite films of all time). With how long this version runs you have much more time to develop the madness the hotel and it's ghost brings on.
Anyone else actually tear up at the end? Was not expecting all the kitties😢
1:02:36 This final gag broke me 😂
WOW The Whole Shining Mini Series Snob!? This is a Treat with a Mega Thank You, You been putting in the work recently with this long Reviews!!👏😃 Thanks for All the work you do!👍
All I remember about the mini-series is that kid’s mouth. Good god, that kid’s mouth! That mouth!!!
Wasn't the best but there's a bit of nostalgia there since I have fond memories of sitting with my family watching these miniseries back in the day. We still make references every now and then.
I still miss Lloyd's 911 lone star clip of the week, and what if it exploded segments. All the best on the birth of your son Brad before you know it. You will be reviewing Disney movies, lol
@LuckyPunkProd
10 ай бұрын
I can't wait for him to review The Aristocats. 😂
It's about freaking time! ^__^ Back in the early 2000s my buddy let me borrow his PlayStation 2 along with his DVD collection and this was in it. I had such a good time watching this show even though it may not be as appreciated or iconic as the Kubrick version it's classic Stephen King.
@SirAsdf
11 ай бұрын
You mean it's overly long, stupid, and not scary? I totally agree.
*Spoiler:* I love the ending with the cats in the black and white photo. Awesome. :)
Brad's gonna be such a great dad!
@typacsk
11 ай бұрын
Especially compared to Jack!
Anyone else notice how gray he's gotten and the kid isn't even here yet?
@jailcatjones3250
11 ай бұрын
The joys of late Parenthood
@nomenclature7662
11 ай бұрын
He just doesn't use just for men anymore
@k-trashradio5163
11 ай бұрын
He'll be a great dad either way
@boogerbrains138
11 ай бұрын
He's like 40
@thEannoyingE
11 ай бұрын
I mean, he’s 42.
I thought Steven Weber did a great job in this role! I am hoping you do Stephen King's Rose Red. Oh and I can't wait til your little one comes. You'll be a great dad!
@bleakautomaton4808
11 ай бұрын
It's the movie I think of every time I mix up the tea Red Rose as Rose Red in conversation. Admittedly it isn't a lot but it happens.
@carlosrivas1629
11 ай бұрын
jack Nicholson as born to play crazy.
@titusmccarthy
10 ай бұрын
Rose Red was abysmal and unintentionally funny.
Lloyd at the end. :( Thanks for another fun King miniseries!
Thanks a ton for this video. Only watcherd this once back in 1997. Hated it so much even though I loved the book.
Great review of the ultimate Stephen King TV clusterfuck! Glad it's back for all to see!
The Llyod ending is so sweet
The Shining Time Station Miniseries. Can’t wait for Stephen King’s Shining Time Station
@DigiRangerScott
11 ай бұрын
@@iamnotgonnagiveyoumyname1373 You mean Thomas with a bar! Purposefully miscasting!
Dude I'm a huge fan of your channel It seriously baffles me that you don't have AT LEAST a million subs..... You are a legend sir.
Couple of things. The second episode premiered on my 18th birthday. Also, does Jack just put his bare hand in a hornet's nest?
I usually refer to Sandlot as Stand by Me with baseball instead of the Dead Body...
Ahhhh we taped this and never watched it again. Hell I think we ended up taping over it. But yes, Weber is by far the best thing about this and it's too bad the rest of the series couldn't match him.
The twins are sinister and adorable.
Did miss Chloe and Lloyd. Lovely to see these cuties.
I've been waiting for you to cover this one ever since Doug did his review a few years ago! All the best to you and your wife on the impending birth, Brad. ❤
@fuzzballzz36
11 ай бұрын
@@user-ns9ji8vp8k time flies when you're reviewing stuff.
When Pat Hingle’s character said “slit her wrists” the captions translated it as “clitoris”. Something Freudian there😂
I hope we still get a musical march in September this year
This channel is the only reason I go on KZread anymore 🖤
Amazing! - keep these going!!! still fun
Holy crap i love this episode, great work Cinema Boss.
OMG You guys are having a kid?! So happy for you! Congratz, Brad!
Kubrix film of the Shining is the film of Jack Torrance's novel of the Shining, which is why the script cannot appear.
I just watched the first episode of that series, felt asleep and forgot it ! 😂
Watched the first half of this the day it dropped while I was getting ready for work. By the time I got home it was set to private because of the copyright BS, so I missed the end. So glad to see it back. Steven Weber is awesome in everything he does. Even this.
It took me this long to realize that Halloran was Melvin Van Peebles in this version
Congrats on the upcoming Daddyhood! As for The Shining... I actually can't even watch the Kubrick version (barely made it through my 1st and only viewing). TO ME, Nicholson's over the top hamminess tops anything Nicholas Cage has EVER done. It wasn't The Shining, it was The Jack Nicholson Show. The miniseries definitely leaves a lot to be desired, but it's SO much closer to the original story.
@screamr2d2
4 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. Nicholson just isn't Jack Torrence.
That kid was like in everything in the late 90s.
loved it snob! especially the ending!
Hey Brad been a long time since I've checked out your channel. I am glad to hear about you being a dad congratulations man
Thank you so much 🙆♂️ we love you Brad lol
Brad, your reviews have helped me get through some really tough times in my life. Especially during my own postpartum experience in August 2020 (Giving birth during the apocalypse is NOT recommended. But your review of "The Stand" helped ease the insanity) I hope everything goes perfectly for you and your partner! And just know that if I, a neurotic, anxious, depressed, ADHD-riddled person, can raise a happy, healthy, smart, empathetic, WONDERFUL little boy during a pandemic... well, I have no doubt that your kid is gonna be one AWESOME kid!!! ❤❤❤
“Boy, you read my thoughts, you've got the Shinning.” “You mean 'Shining'.” “Shhh, do you want to get sued?”.
Fun Fact: Melvin Van Peebles previously played the Mayor of Nassau, Jason Witherspoon in *"JAWS: The Revenge"* (1987), which also starred his own son Mario as Mike Brody's research partner Jake McCay.
I’m happy to hear that someone agrees with me that this was basically mediocre.Also,very nice final image.I know Lloyd approves!
Was waiting for you to cover this one
Congratulations Brad! You’ll make an amazing dad, as you have your kid learn to appreciate the art of cinema.
That "What Lies Beneath" line had me 😂 My birthday is also December 20th! 🎉
So I’m embarrassed to say that it’s been a very long time since checking out your videos. Sorry bout that. I’m happy to hear you’re gonna be a dad! Many congratulations and best wishes to you guys!
Mr. Cinema Snob, you make this video review of Stephen King’s The Shining, an absolutely hilarious watch! Especially when you voice over Steven Weber’s Jack Torrance with an always, over-the-top angry, agitated voice a drunk father would always have. I laughed my guts so hard, I thought I would die of both horror and laughter at the same time.
The hedge animals were scary in the book, but likely harder to pull off in the film. I feel like instead of CGI you could maybe pull it off with like, guys in a hedge costume? Especially if they still had them there when they were first introduced just standing super still to add that degree of surrealism. Did they still cut the thing in the play tunnel though?
@silverselkie1692
11 ай бұрын
Stop motion and puppets would work best for a good horror/uncanny valley
@joeyjeffrey5892
11 ай бұрын
Yeah still no play tunnel in the remake
@merchantfan
11 ай бұрын
@@joeyjeffrey5892 Weird, that was one of the scariest parts for me. These days stuff like that is popular with analog horror type stuff
@AnnieBoBannie421
11 ай бұрын
@@silverselkie1692yep… kinda like how they filmed ‘JoJo’ in ‘Killer Klowns from outer space’… you’re right-it could be done!! ‘JoJo’ looks HUGE 🤣
@JDelwynn
11 ай бұрын
It could be done, but not on a TV budget. You don't need to even show the hedges moving in-camera, just make them way bigger and place them in different places between cuts. At the end when Halloran comes to the Overlook and burns one of the hedge animals there's a blizzard going on, so then you can use CGI and have them obscured by the falling snow.
The green sled sticks out next to the green screen and Rebecca De Mornay in no way hit him hard enough to break the bottle 😂
The shining is the perfect father son film.
I know people are not a big fan of this version but I really do like the father here more than nicholson version. nicholson kind of came off crazy from the start this one we saw a man slowly suffering and losing his mind and trying to fight back against the hotel.
@goodburger1114
11 ай бұрын
Yeah this one was closer to the book. I love this one a lot.
@LaLobita2011
11 ай бұрын
i agree. the jack in the mini series is a lot closer to the tortured soul in the book. he slowly but surely loses his mind where as nicholson made him just seem like a scary guy you never wanna cross! still love the kubrick movie and didn't much care for the miniseries
@cristyablad
11 ай бұрын
Personally I just couldn't get past the stuff that was supposed to be scary being unintentionally hilarious. I don't know how hose and hedges could've been done better... like I don't know if different effects would have helped. They aren't terrible they're just... funny.
@bababui69foru
11 ай бұрын
Book Jack is far crazier than movie Jack from the getgo. Book Jack has a history of violence and is a rageaholic. Book jack smacked Danny. Book jack didnt fight back until the end.
@somegamer7958
11 ай бұрын
I actually find the book version to be a cartoon character. He's basically Wile E Coyote. Everything he does backfires. The movie version is, honestly, a much more realistic character.
As a huge fan of Wings, I was surprised but pleased to find out they considered Tim Daly. I think he would have been awesome in this role. Tim is a very underrated actor. And your little Roy Biggins remark made me laugh. I love the character of Roy.
I remember my mom saying that Danny looked like carp.
@AquaLantern
10 ай бұрын
Like a fish? Yeah, that sounds about right.
I understand why King hated Kubrick's version. You can tell while reading the book that it was a very personal story to King and he probably wrote Jack based off his own experiences (being a high school teacher with alcoholism). So it makes sense he took it personally when Kubrick made Jack into a complete psychopath who never seemed like a good person, even before the supernatural shenanigans. All that being said, IMO, Kubrick's movie is better than the novel. (Don't get me started on the PoS "sequel" Doctor Sleep)
I had just come home from a semester abroad in Liverpool when this aired so I was still dealing with jet lag and was half asleep during this whole miniseries. The only thing I remember is the very end. 😆
Finally it's back. It was on my watch later list but was removed the day I wanted to watch it
Best ending to a Snob review ❤