The Shining is probably the best 4K UHD I've bought so far. I thought it's picture was even better than JAWS. And it sure heightens the fear factor when rewatching it...

@deanprice867

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed....looks like it could have been filmed just yesterday. So hard to believe the movie is 41 years old.

@Theomite

3 жыл бұрын

Still a bold statement because that JAWS remaster was practically face-of-God mindblowing.

@deanprice867

3 жыл бұрын

@@Theomite agreed.

is the audio better? i watched this movie a few years back before the 4k release and found the low quality audio distracting

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

The Dolby Stereo sounds best on my system Rhys. That's the default option so probably is on the previous Blu-ray. Give that a try and see what you think but there is a re-mix into Dolby Atmos on this that might prove to be to your liking. It sounded rather similar to the 4.0 from which is was mastered on my 5.1 THX though so the dialogue was overpowered by the music and sound effects much of the time. Not the case with the original Dolby Stereo tracks. John.

@RhysClark97

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Thanks!

Great review mate..... I just watched it on my Optoma UHD38 projector / Panasonic UB154 UHD player. Did you notice any macro-blocking in the toilet scene with the vibrant red walls? Not sure if it's my setup or whether it's a render issue on the disc? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Cheers.

@LithonTheBlack

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, after further investigation i can get rid of the macro blocking by putting the UHD player into RGB mode instead of YCBR, the only problem with that is the colours are in the limited range, full range RGB gives a cloudy washed out effect to it.... I was under the impression BD are all in YCBR. Also checked using my xbox and that also reverts to RGB instead of YCBR(YUV). arrrrghh can't get my head around this one.

@LithonTheBlack

2 жыл бұрын

Do you know if i Should i be using RGB Limited (16-235), RGB full (0-255) or YCBR (YUV)? Sorry but I'm sorta new to home media and am still trying to get my head around all of this. Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks.

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't notice any banding or blocking at all but I have my Optoma UHD550X set to resemble film as closely as possible which means video flaws are better disguised. I know a few reviewers got hot under the collar about the blocking issue in Total Recall when the spaceship arrives at Mars and that was due to the excessive reds making up the entire frame. Video has never been able to handle reds to the level required but UHD was expected to deal with it once and for all. Seems that was wrong. However, this issue could be a setting on your projector somewhere. I had a banding issue for a while which took me a while to find hidden away in an obscure setup option within the projector's image setup menu. My advice is to try to get the projected image to look more like film which will help cover up any flaws (this basically means darker and not like the way shops display the latest OLED televsions with the fake looking imagery that looks like a computer game) and carry on enjoying your new purchase. If the same blocking comes up on another disc then let's check to see if others have spotted the same thing and if not then there will be a setting hiding away somewhere. Until then, enjoy the big screen entertainment that only projection can give. I hope to put our ten foot wide roll down screen back into action soon but that's another story for another time. John.

@LithonTheBlack

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the reply John. I haven't noticed any banding at all. I've had the projector for a few months now and this one is the only movie i have watched that the macro blocking really stood out to me. I haven't yet got Total recall but will be sure to test that out in the future. I may try to dim the projector a bit more, as i did go -10 on the green bias which naturally dimmed the picture already to get more accurate colours when i first got the PJ. I don't have a colorimeter so had to do it by eye, but it looks way better than it did out of the box as it had like a green tinge which did make it brighter but made yellows etc.. look muddy. Anyhow, i'm starting to think it may be an issue with the UHD player's handling of reds whilst in 10-bit colour depth. I'll have to do some more testing with other UHD discs. Thanks for suggesting Total Recall, I'll try pick that up and see how i get on. All the best mate.

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@LithonTheBlack I think I have the brightness setting on my projector at about -10 now and the contrast around the zero mark. Quite often the HDR is the problem as it's been applied too bright during the mastering so if that's the case with The Shining (I can't remember now) try turning the HDR down to the next lower setting. There are four settings on both my Panasonic 4K players so if you have one of those it's easy with the HDR button on the remote but otherwise you'll have to go through the player setup which will mean faffing about before watching every disc. John.

Classic saw this on first release and was spooked walking home in the dark. Very eerie.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It has a rather unique atmosphere to the whole film. The hotel and the use of the steadicam gives it something special. John.

Is that a UK release you have? I got mine from HMV but don't seem to have the shortened version on the disc. Only has the 144min original. Can't seem to see a 4K version with the shortened available over here.

@moviecollector5920

11 ай бұрын

I believe it only has the longer version on it Majeh. Fortunately I don't know The Shining well enough to be able to spot the difference. In fact, when I saw it all those years ago I didn't much care for it but being a youngster at the time I was hoping it would be scary but even by then very little scared me at all. Today I simply see it as a well made, interesting film with a good story and an ending to discuss and debate forever. John.

@mz4ever123

11 ай бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 @moviecollector5920 yes I've just checked only the 4K special edition comes with both versions of the movie. I think it's much better paced, makes it easier to watch. That sounds accurate not really scary just creepy or chilling at best.

Classic flick - I seem to rewatch it every 10 years or so

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

That's about how long I go between re-watches of films now. John.

I remember once reading that Kubrick intended for the movies he shot on spherical lens 35mm film to be viewed in the full 1.33:1 frame.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Eyes Wide Shut was 1.33:1 at the cinema. I can't recall if cinemas had modified the masking to frame the academy frame by then but they'd had trouble with Disney re-releases so I believe the cinema in which we saw Eyes Wide Shut displayed the film correctly. John.

@craigrussell3062

3 жыл бұрын

The DVD format was released in the last few years of Kubrick's life, and as I recall he was strangely adamant that all of his films (with the exception, I believe, of 2001) be released on home video exclusively in 1.33:1. I believe it wasn't until after his death that The Shining and the rest were available in 1.85:1. Interestingly, it seems from Kubrick's remarks on the subject that his main concern was less fidelity to the theatrical experience than filling the home screen (which at the time was typically no larger than 13"-36"). There's an excellent bonus feature on the Criterion blu-ray of On the Waterfront that shows how the cinematographer composed every shot to work whether matted to 1.85:1, 1.66:1, or 1.33:1, knowing it might be projected in any of these aspect ratios at individual theaters. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true of most of Kubrick's films; as I recall from that original run of full-frame DVDs, they certainly don't look BAD in 1.33:1.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigrussell3062 All makes sense to me Craig. A lot of films are shot by the cinematographers with multiple screen ratios and probably even more so today given all the chicanery with the IMAX moniker which is used for various formats today without actually being IMAX as we all know it... or knew it. John.

*note - The Shining 4K disc is the Extended version. (144 mins.)

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Strange that it doesn't come with the original version but it doesn't seem to have messed the film up at all. John.

@Ewld

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 before purchasing the 4k Blu-ray I was aware it wouldn't include the theatrical (and in my opinion superior) cut. But I am still incredibly disappointed that it doesn't. In my opinion the theatrical is far superior to the extended edition, having watched both versions about 5 to 10 times each over the last two decades. While I don't really want to buy it yet another time I do still hope they one day choose to release a 4k Blu-ray with the theatrical cut. Although given the fact that the extended version is what the American customers are used to, I'm not holding my breath 😔

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ewld If the original version of the film ever turns up on 4K I'm buying it and the extended one might even go in the bin!!! But probably not! John.

The aerial exterior shots of the "Overlook Hotel" were actually photographed in the state of Oregon and feature the "Timberline Lodge" located at the base of Mt. Hood, which is part of the Sierra Nevada mountain range. If you look carefully at the aerial sequences in the movie, however, you'll notice that the hedge maze is nowhere to be seen. I love "The Shining," but my personal FAVORITE Stephen King adaptation is the 1983 film "The Dead Zone."

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I too really like The Dead Zone. Haven't seen it for years. John.

@GA-1st

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 It's worth a revisit! Arguably Walken's best performance on film IMO. And I think it's always worth mentioning the underrated Tom Skerritt giving yet another strong supporting turn.

Wonderful review of the 4K release and some very interesting background information as always. Superb job once again.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It was good fun again. I seem to be enjoying filming these things a bit more nowadays and they're not taking quite so long to put together either. John.

There is a strong eerie feeling in that Colorado hotel...my visit there was short and I left with urge. Really bad vibes. I was happy to drive away and back to Denver. I will never go back.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Did you go around the maze though?!? John.

Love your appreciation of the film medium and would love to see your take on all genre's; maybe a top 10 and in depth analyses of why you love the movies...quality vids.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Taykit. I think my review of Alien probably gives an insight into why I have such an interest in film and perhaps also my Super 8 Film Gauge video. It's largely down to Super 8 as a child as I never lost my fascination with being able to run films in the home on that tiny film gauge. John.

PLEASE PLEASE tell me what the movie is thats playing on your opening. Who is it talking too please. Thank you

@moviecollector5920

Жыл бұрын

That's a short reel of teaser trailers from 20th Century Fox in 1999. Leonardo Di Caprio in The Beach is the main one and who you here (just about) talking and another sequence is Anna & The King. John.

Yet another really interesting review John, its always a pleasure to listen to your knowledgeable comments! I think this film is a visual masterpiece, so many iconic scenes. I didn't realise the snow scenes at the end were shot in a studio in summer :)

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Not only summer Nick but they're running around on salt so it did to their shoes what our British winter roads do to our cars and rotted them. The giveaway is the lack of visible breath being exhaled which given how freezing it looks rather lets the film down but we're so involved in the story by that time that none of us care. John.

@nick1635

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 You're right John! The film is so engrossing by the end I was totally riveted and didn't notice there was no condensation.

It’s always great when you say it’s just like watching a 35mm print , how lucky we are to have this quality for home use. Carrie is getting a 4k release soon John from Scream Factory but we will have to import that unfortunately.

@moviecollector5920

Жыл бұрын

I think the people carrying out the mastering work from the transfers are getting a better understanding of HDR and how to apply it now because so many 4K discs are looking more like 35mm film now. Saturday Night Fever is the latest I've seen and what a difference it makes to have it in such previously unimaginable quality on home video. So I'm with you there Danny and couldn't agree with you more. As for 'Carrie', you'd think that title would be big enough to warrant a 4K disc release over here but I expect there are rights issues that are either holding it up or preventing it. Rollerball never appeared here but a friend has just imported the German 4K and thankfully, the inlay is reversible so we don't have to look at that awful German certification that ruins the fabulous original poster art. I might have to get a copy of that now. John.

Great review and a very interesting ending theory. Makes a shining kinda sense!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I've never seen or read about anyone else's theories as to the ending and when Clark suggested his ideas to me it kind of fell into place and does explain the whole thing even if I'm probably barking up the wrong tree. John.

Loved The Shining! Scared me when I was younger. As did Salem's Lot! Thanks for the great review!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I was hardened to horror movies by the time I was 16 or 17 so very little ever gave me a scare by the time The Shining and Salem's Lot were current. But I do think they're both pretty terrific. John.

The aspect ratio is interesting as the DVDs Kubrick was involved with just before he died was 4:3. That means the picture is cropped. I think the sequel, Dr Sleep explains what the deal is with the hotel.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Eyes Wide Shut was released to cinemas in academy format but I didn't know any of the others were. I really don't think The Shining was done in 1.33:1 but maybe that's what he wanted at the time. The distributors would have thwarted that though otherwise they'd have cinemas inundated with complaints because the masking wouldn't move in that far... as Disney proved with their 1990s releases of the classic cartoons. John.

@thribs

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 There is an interesting article about it. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.alternateending.com/blog/kubrick-and-his-ratios/amp While it doesn’t benefit most of his movies, I do think it helps make the hotel look more open and grander.

I just want to say I love your content keep it up! Absolute Kubrick fanatic. 15 and I own most his films on 4k, glad someone doesn't think I'm out of my mind for buying these 4k movies.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

If you're only 15 and you're a fan of Kubrick films then you're going to end up with a career in movies somehow! Maybe you should start writing now and how about a project on Kubrick films for something? Writing is the best way to get to grips with English and grammar and if you end up in the film industry it could work wonders for you. No end of teaching is a match for doing it for yourself. Great to hear from you and carry on enjoying those movies. 4K is fabulous but probably better than we need for home viewing so don't ever rule out Blu-ray or modern DVD for that matter because some of them are almost as good as 4K. It's HDR that makes the difference in the main. Great KZread ID by the way. John.

@openthepodbaydoorshal7806

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 thanks for the response! I've been tested for borderline eidetic memory so I should be able to do some interesting things.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@openthepodbaydoorshal7806 That should certainly prove to be a great assistance with whatever you do. If you end up directing films you won't need storyboards as you'll just be able to store the images in your head! John.

John, even though I'm not really a fan of The Shining, thanks for another great video Sir. One movie I cant wait to acquire this year on 4K is one of my all time favourites, The Thing. Lets wait until you get a video done for that in the future then get everyone's take on how the disc is and have a discussion about the Molotov Theory. "Its just a Theory that I happen to agree with!"

What a fantastic review, love all the in-depth information surrounding the movie and Stephen King! I recently bought the Kubrick 4K collection; Space Odyssey, Shining and Full Metal Jacket. All classics and I love having it in my collection.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I think A Clockwork Orange is coming soon. Well, it is 50 years old pretty soon so I think we can be sure a 4K won't be too long. John.

'The Shining' is probably my favourite Horror film of all time, or at least one of them. I watch it every Halloween. It is the gift that keeps on giving, with it not giving any definitive answers, but allowing the audience to take away their own conclusions. Its amazing that you have your own Steadicam. I will need to upgrade to the 4K of this Stanley Kubrick masterpiece. I think John Carpenter's 'Christine' has the best 4K transfer of King's older film adaptations. I was blown away by the 4K transfer, it looked stunning on my 4K TV! I highly recommend the TV Series 'Castle Rock', if you haven't already seen it. It is a must see for Stephen King fans.

@moviecollector5920

Жыл бұрын

I haven't seen 'Castle Rock' Cooper so I'll keep a lookout for that. If you haven't seen the 11.22.63 then the Blu-ray of that is fairly exceptional. It's helped by being a captivating story with wonderful characters too. Anything time travel tends to captivate me though so perhaps I'm biased. I have quite a lot of film and video equipment as I've been making documentaries for the past 17 years. I'm trying to finalize one right now and then one more to do and I'm probably going to call it a day as discs don't sell in enough quantity any longer. John.

Heavens You've rekindled my memories of Salams Lot me and my brothers always watched it when we were kids totally forgot there was a 2hr cut film

Now I really want to finish watching "11.22.63"! Thank you John! Also, I have never read or seen "Carrie", or "Pet Cemetery". I will now! Explanations about the plot are all in the book. It does not hide too many secrets. Story in the book is not really scary. It is a social drama about alcoholism and abuse in the family. "Doctor Sleep" is quite a good continuation of the story. My personal favorite cinematic reincarnations of King's stories: "1408" with John Cusack and Samuel Jackson, and the two new reincarnations of "It" - both: young actors and adults are absolutely wonderful!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Because the film and the book are different can we apply the solutions to the mystery from the book to the film? I don't know because I never read the book. But the sequel apparently is based closely on the book so answers any mysteries from the first book but can that also apply to the first film? Pet Sematary was a good book but I don't think it makes a good film. I haven't seen the remake though. Carrie is disturbing but damned good and ground breaking in terms of both the film and the book. I think it still holds up today. I've got all your emails from the other day Dmitri so expect a long reply to those shortly. John.

@dmitripopov8570

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Please do not hurry with replies. Take your time. "Shining" is more of a Stanley Kubrick's vision than of Stephen King. So, I rather agree with you that they should be studied as separate subjects. Kubrick added a lot from himself: changed the tone of narration and added hidden messages for the viewer, which in turn add more connection to that era in our real world with its more sinister shadows. King did not go into specifics of criminal syndicate's business and the occult. Kubrick was more fascinated with these ideas. So, in my humble opinion, these are separate beasts: book and film. I am excited about watching "Carrie"! Thank you for suggestion! Dmitri

Great review and detailed info thanks

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. John.

One of my favourite 4K discs. It's like the medium was made for Kubrick's films. Nice surprise seeing your review, John! Best - Andrew.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

We can blame young Teddles for me getting this disc out and giving it a good bit of scrutiny Andrew. I very much enjoyed looking at it again, much more than I did the first time around. Looks like I'll get Doctor Sleep later this week so we'll see how that one stands up. John.

@GuitarGuy5000000000

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Curious to hear your thoughts on Dr. Sleep. I think it's a great a looking and sounding 4K disc. The film was pretty cool I thought; it just shouldn't be compared to Kubrick's masterpiece, because it couldn't possibly compare.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@GuitarGuy5000000000 I also expect that Doctor Sleep will actually follow the Stephen King book rather more closely so as the film of The Shining didn't stick to King's original book I'll have to discern if it's a sequel to the film or the book. Interestingly we ran the 4K of Spielberg's 'Ready Player One' last night and the best part of that film was the whole sequence where the game went into a representation of The Shining with sets reproduced in a computer and scenes reproduced too. Quite amazing. John.

@GuitarGuy5000000000

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 In the bonus features, there's an interview with King and director Mike Flanagan where they say they tried hard to make it more true to the book while still working as a sequel to the first film. I haven't read the book but it seems they got the right balance. I have yet to see Ready Player One but I am most intrigued by the scene you mention! It's funny, but because RP1 came out first, it kinda lessens the impact of revisiting the Overlook Hotel in Doctor Sleep. Best - Andrew.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@GuitarGuy5000000000 I plan to include Ready Player One in a 4K round-up review video shortly and I expect I'll say that the best part of the film is the recreation of The Shining. It's impressive and also very funny. We couldn't quite believe what we were looking at having just done the 4K review video of The Shining. John.

So excited to see you cover this!! Interesting timing, the podcast I co-host, Sequelcast 2 (we cover movie franchises one sequel at a time) so we're doing The Shining, the Mick Garris mini series, and Doctor Sleep from 2019. Will send a link when the episode goes up!! Keep em' coming John!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, I'll look forward to that one Alex. John.

I watched this before I bought the disc. Thank you for including the spoiler alert because I just watched this movie for the first time, so I came back to the end today. To me, the sound on this is one of the better I have experienced. The music is conveyed so well and really envelopes all of the channels. The image quality is really superb as well.

@moviecollector5920

Жыл бұрын

I think this is 35mm at its near best Joey. Interesting how the 4K UHD transfer looks so much better than the recent sequel 'Doctor Sleep' which does rather confirm how image quality has gone backwards. I could see it happening in the late 1990's and into the 2000's but no one else seemed to care. By the way, I still spend time thinking about the ending of The Shining. John.

Great video presentation - thank you. It’s a great movie though I’ve never been certain on the ending either. What you presented seems to make sense. Great work

@moviecollector5920

11 ай бұрын

There are many interpretations for the ending and I think the idea is that we are left to make up our own minds. I like films like that. I did want to do a complete video all about the clues within the film that lead up to the ending but that depended on this review video doing well back when I did it but it didn't really. John.

@eaglestrikes1

11 ай бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 yes I need to watch it again really it’s been a while. I really enjoy your videos. I’m sorry to say I’ve just found them. All the best, and once again thank you. Phil

There is another version of The Shining I own that was released around 2,000 on DVD by WB - not pan & scan - but rather has the mattes removed from top and bottom thus revealing more detail above and below, and was done with Stanley Kubrick's approval. Doing this actually makes the film a virtual 4:3 ratio of the 35mm print (which doesn't surprise why Stanley approved). If this version was to be scanned and released at 4K, it would be suitable for IMAX, ironically.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

35mm film from 1980 is a bit of a stretch for IMAX but a lot of videos shot at 2K make it onto the big screens now and it would look better than them. Modern film stocks are much finer grain so even at 90 feet wide at the Waterloo IMAX they still look very good. 70mm IMAX is unsurpassed to this day and probably will be for many years to come. If you analyze the full 35mm frame of The Shining you'll see that it was shot with the intention that cinemas would have mattes in the projectors to screen it at the correct ratio which was 1.85:1. The opening alone would spoil the film somewhat because the shadow of the helicopter would be visible if it weren't masked correctly. But I dare say the guidelines were in the camera viewfinders so the cameramen would be able to ensure the frame was suitable for all screening formats including television broadcasts at 1.33:1 academy ratio back in the 1980s. John.

I love this film and the 4K presentation will no doubt be stunning if the Blu Ray alone is anything to go by. Love the Leeds born actor Philip Stone in this who plays original caretaker Grady. He was in Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange, Flash Gordon, Indiana Jones and 2 Carry On films, quite diverse. The music from The Gold Room was beautiful too featuring Al Bowly, absolute class John. Always makes me smile with the opening credits of The Shining with the Overlook in Oregon and no maze in sight, just a car park, go figure! 😀

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Morning Gary! It is a bit obvious the maze isn't there when you get to know the film but back in 1980 no one considered the home movie market and the possibility of watching a film over and over again. Now we have the web where such things are pointed out ad nauseam and anyone who is interested in a film can get to pick up on all the minor flaws. My own take on it is the maze was only put in while Jack was having his job interview! John.

@garypeach8945

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Yes things are scrutinised a lot more but it doesnt really matter, its whether you enjoyed it. I love it, just wished I had got the 4k boxset instead of the standard edition.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@garypeach8945 Me too Gary but at least we'll both know next time it gets a re-release. John.

Fantastic video as always John. I really enjoy your content, despite not owning a single 4K disc. DVD’s still comprise the bulk of my collection. The Shining is definitely one of my favourite King adaptations, but my all-time favourite has to be Misery. Hope you are well.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

A lot of people has cited Misery as their favourite Stephen King adaptations. It is brilliant but I haven't seen it in so long that it's probably gone out of my memory a bit. Something I need to rectify methinks. John.

Movie Collector, regarding the spoiler talk, you pretty much nailed most of it. The hotel is haunted by dark moments which can easily influence the weak minded, in this case, Jack Nicholson, the dark energy feeds of the living, specially from fear. There's a movie sequel to The Shining called Dr Sleep, which is also written by Stephen King, where the shinning concept is explained deeper.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Doctor Sleep would be interesting but the film The Shining does not match the book so it's quite likely the interpretations don't match. I don't think it matters because I don't think Kubrick understood his ending and the idea was probably to leave it all a bit muddy and vague so people would discuss their own interpretations... which is exactly what we've been doing on here of course. He was a cunning devil that Kubrick! John.

@CmlDexter

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 There is a 2019 Doctor Sleep film that's a direct sequel to Kubrick's The Shinning, they even re-create a bunch of scenes given that the main character is the kid from the first movie. I'd recommend it 100% in 4K, it is very sharp along with the HDR, and the Atmos is also really good. One of my favorite horror films of recent years.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@CmlDexter It's just gone on the HMV shopping list for our next Mondo Mooch which should be this Wednesday if all goes to plan. No doubt all my current thinking about the ending of The Shining will be thrown out of the window! John.

Excellent review!! Not yet watched my 4k copy of this as been busy with house renovations. Also just started to binge watch breaking bad which I had never seen. I think the ending explanation is great as I had always thought he was the original care taker from the 20's but reborn again but fate was making him go back to the same place to die. Your explanation seems better as mine was based on the dialogue where the bartender tells him in the toilets that he's (Jack) always been the caretaker.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

That was my original take on it based on the conversation with 'Jeevesy' the waiter in the toilets. But it doesn't explain so many other holes in the ending. I think I'll continue to try to work it all out but other than that conversation in the toilets my current theory does seem to explain everything. John.

@darkvader7231

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 I think your current theory is the best one!

Another great review. Cheers, John. It's a great disc. I didn't think much of Dr Sleep though.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen Dr. Sleep yet. Don't know if I should. John.

@dougquaid570

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 it doesn't ruin the shining, it's just a thorough waste of time.

Another great review John, always look forward to your informed take on these transfers. Loved the colours on this myself, this is another transfer that in contrast to the old warner bluray is night and day in comparison. I really get the impression that the warner Kubrick bkuray set was sourced from the old dvd masters. Looking forward to a clockwork orange getting released in Septemberand hopefully Barry Lyndon and perhaps eyes wide shut 🤞So many 4ks coming in the next few months its going to be an expensive year. Thanks again for the great content.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It's quite possible the transfer that went onto DVD was a downscale from 1080 lines and therefore the Blu-ray was easier to knock out quickly. But back then it tended to be prints that were used for the transfers so not so much care was taken to get things up to the exceptional quality we enjoy today. John.

@floydianpink2524

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 for sure, that's the best thing about the 4k era for me, camera negatives getting scanned for transfers. Long may it continue.

I must say well done for how quick you put this video together, well done!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Clark. I did get through it surprisingly quickly. Filmed on one day and edited together the next. John.

@ClarkTeddles

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 well done! editing can take hours some times haha

Awesome review John :) The Shining is an outstanding horror film and I've seen it many times. There's so many great Stephen King movies, Pet Sematary, The Mist, Cujo, Dolores Claiborne, Christine, Children of the corn, Dead Zone, Silver Bullet and Firestarter just to name a few. I love the 11.22.63 miniseries and have watched it twice. It's well written and very interesting.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

How can so many great stories come out of one person's mind? It's quite astounding really. Now then, I didn't think much of the 1989 version of Pet Sematary so what do you think? I''m hoping the remake will be worth my while and not another disappointment. So if you think the original version is better than maybe I'll get the remake a miss. Must see The Dead Zone again soon as I loved it. Christopher Walken and Martin Sheen were both perfect in that one... then again, they generally are in everything they do. John.

@mirvmn2

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 @Movie Collector I think Pet Sematary 1989 is far better than the remake with great performances by Dale Midkiff and Fred Gwynne. I haven't read the book but many people thinks that the 1989 version is a good book adaptation. I do like the remake but it's just not as good

Shelley Long? Cheers! Great review, can't wait to get a 4K copy

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Well, The Money Pit is easily confused with this one! John.

I don't even see it as a Stephen King adaptation but as a Kubrick film. I never thought his film was scary but I simply enjoy it for Kubrick's movie language, which is way more lasting.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It's a film that has grown in stature over the years. Don't think the book has but others may disagree with me. John.

A brilliant and informative video as per. Thanks John 👍🏼

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Lee. It seems to be doing surprisingly well so The Shining is a much more popular film than I thought it still would be. John.

Did you ever see the sequel, Doctor Sleep? It is also available on 4K

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't Tim and I'm averse for fear of it spoiling the original. So many sequels do that. John.

@84paratize

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 that might be a good choice. I liked the sequel okay but it's not a patch on the original in my opinion

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@84paratize Let's face it, nothing would ever come up to the quality of Kubrick's film. Impossible. John.

@FWMCoehoorn

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Don't do it John. It's a prime example of spoiling, unfortunately.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@oldb3139 Most people seem to like it Joost and as I did feel that The Shining didn't seem to tell us what 'the shining' actually was other than an ability to hear the thoughts of others with the same gift I suspect I'll rather enjoy it too. And Ewan McGregor's the star so that's another factor in its favour. John.

Love your reviews! Thank you for taking the time. I think Barry Lyndon is Stanley Kubricks best creation...maybe a review in the future? 😊

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe soon Anton because it seems that Kubrick's films are all coming out in 4K now. John.

Favorite Stephen King movies are Carrie, Shining, Misery, Dolores Claiborne, Shawshank, The Mist and of course, Dead Zone. I was a projectionist for Carrie. Had fun watching audience at the end.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Dead Zone is another film I want to see again. I was a projectionist for Carrie two days ago! I did think about running the ending in reverse and pointing out that the cars were then running the right way but I thought I'd leave that for a full review of Carrie if it ever gets a 4K release. John.

@Celestialrob

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 the big jump is really fun to watch from the booth with 100-200 people in the theater - but I'm evil 🤪

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@Celestialrob I jumped so much the first time that I had a long held false memory of how the arm comes out. But I'm a bit sadistic too... the shock scene in Phantasm where the Tall Man puts his hand on Jody's shoulder - I always turned the volume right up to make everyone jump out of their skin! John.

@Celestialrob

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 OK, we're both evil :)

I love your intros John, especially your super 8 projector in full motion! This 4K release has done justice to Kubrick’s classic! The HDR is superb now, and had been lacking for decades on home video! Don’t know if you’re a fan but Christine (1983) from John Carpenter also deserves honorable mention on the 4K front! Thank you

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I don't have Christine Charles but I'm sure I'll get it sometime soon. Haven't seen it since it was broadcast on television and it didn't work very well that way. 1.33:1 pan and scan and probably chock-full of adverts. By the way, the projector in the intro is my 35mm machine. It's impossible to get a shot of the Super 8 gate in motion as there's just not the space between the components to get that angle. John.

@ethanberry9846

3 жыл бұрын

Christine looks great, looks very much like film, I love the grain structure in this film and colours are well balanced.. was too young to see this at the cinema but I imagined what it felt like with this 4k

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@ethanberry9846 Many of the 35mm transfers onto 4K are looking very much like genuine film so it sounds like Christine is another success story. Some mastering once the films are transferred are getting digital sharpening added which spoils them a little but when you consider how good they still are for such comparatively low cost, it's still an amazing achievement. John.

@ethanberry9846

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 yes this doesn't look like it has been tampered with, the cherry colour of Christine looks more bold staying away from what most dredded as the car popping with colour, colours are very natural, darker, bolder, richer, no neon colours here, nice to see a few soft spots also and a few flaws which are more baked into the film than the 4k, it's possibly the most natural looking film on 4k, skin tones are more natural than the blu ray where there was a push more towards orange and red, similar to the old top gun blu ray where skin tones ran too red, this is pretty much a razor sharp for the most part considering its age but really came out on 4k with very little fuss and always seems a bit pricey to buy online

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@ethanberry9846 Certainly convinced me it's time I took another look at Christine. The one I hope they give the 4K treatment to is Starman. The Thing should be rather special in two months time though. John.

I really wish they still kept the open matte version for both the bluray and 4k

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Was that an academy format Pedro? Maybe it was intended to be academy but over here it would have been 1.66:1 and that would probably be the best compromise. John.

Carrie is such a brilliant movie with such great acting, really must get round to seeing it again

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I'm hoping it will get a 4K release so I can do a full review. Not sure it will get a 4K release at all but I'll keep hoping for it. John.

Random fact. The road they used to film the opening scene is in Montana, the Going to the Sun road. When they get to the top and show that aerial shot of the hotel it's the Timberline Lodge in Oregon.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

But where's the maze in that aerial shot??? Oh, it's thousands of miles away at Elstree Studios! John.

@Tlducken

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Yeah, I was a little bummed when I visited the Timberline Lodge and didn't see a maze.

Great to see you John. Loved this review as always. Stay well my friend.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It seems to be getting rather a large audience which is encouraging. It always seems to be more based on the popularity of a particular film rather than my reviews but that's to be expected. We are having a pretty serious heatwave here. Feels almost like southern California. John.

@Celestialrob

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 yeah, I looked through your view numbers are definitely picking up! We have a chilly 26 degrees Celsius here in Marin today. I just bought Criterion box sets of Ingmar Bergman and Federico Fellini. 53 movies!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@Celestialrob That'll keep you going for a couple of days through the cold weather Rob! John.

Great video as usual. Very interesting theory of the ending. Hmm...

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Apparently my theory is wrong but I haven't seen the recent sequel which apparently has an entirely different interpretation. John.

Love the Shining,have you seen its follow up Dr Sleep,a continuation of Danny's story,well worth a watch

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen it Gary and I have to admit to being a bit averse as I fear it might spoil the original film for me. John.

@raffa7282

3 жыл бұрын

It's very different, and have is own style of fantastic approach, Mike Flanagan is a very talented director for modern horror.

@THEremiXFACTOR

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Yeah, I watched Doctor Sleep last year. I wasn't at all interested when it first came out, but I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of it. I watched the extended version which is a bit long but worthwhile.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@THEremiXFACTOR Doctor Sleep is getting a lot of positive comments so I'm convinced and more money will soon be going out! John.

@Gazza636

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 I think you'll be pleasantly surprised John ,you can probably pick it up as a 2 for £30

Brilliantly done as usual. Could hardly wait to get home and watch your review. Although I prefer the TV version of 'shinning' over this, you have piqued my interest into giving it another watch. Also funny that you mentioned 'Carrie' as I read that and 'salems lot' at the age of 12 and I can honestly say that both books gave me nightmares for weeks.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I was reading all the Stephen King books around the same time (and James Herbert who was even more frightening to read). I never saw the television version of The Shining but I think this 4K is longer than the theatrical version so maybe it's more similar to the TV edition. John.

@mobey56

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Thanks. I'll look into those books aswell. Difference is that I was reading "King's" books during the mid 80s. Also, I recorded a Steven King adaptation of 'rose red' (similar to shining hotel) which you might want to check out.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@mobey56 I've not had much time to read over the past 15 years or so but I hope to get back into it soon... getting old you see. But of the James Herbert books the best I remember are Rats and Lair. Bloody hell, they were a terrifying read... probably because I can't bear the thought of giant rats more than anything but they were horrific books. John.

@mobey56

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Thanks for the heads up sir; will definately check those titles out. I find reading helps in relaxing (unwinding) me and do so on my daily comutes. On a side note, if you have a kindle or any other e-reader: then it is easy to adjust the font to your liking.

Can you please do a review on the new 4k bluray of basic instinct?

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I expect I'll get a copy of that and include it in a 4K round-up review sometime soon. There's not enough interest in some of these films to do a standalone review which is a shame. I've tried a few of them but they've been a bit of a waste of time. Next video should be a round-up of a few 4Ks we've watched in July and will include the two Jurassic World films (second one is good), Mad Max Fury Road (very good picture and sound but not exactly a masterpiece of cinema), V For Vendetta from Titans of Cult which is a wonderful package and helps to enhance the film, plus hopefully Ready Player One if I can watch it in time. Might have one or two Blu-rays mentioned as well. So when I do get Basic Instinct I'll be able to talk about it in a similar round-up video. Hope that's okay. John.

@Bkaas

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 thank you for the reply. That's great John.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bkaas You're welcome. I've been running a few 35mm trailers this afternoon just to remind myself of the superiority of film. Shame it's not practical for most in the home but Blu-ray and 4K are exceptional now so we're almost there. John.

Great review, and great extra information about the making of it, and I agree of you conclusion about jack in the Picture. Good Job!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tom. There have been some good suggestions with regards to the ending in the comments below if you want to spend some time trawling through. It seems that the original intention was going to be a ridiculous nonsense whereby it was all in Wendy's head so thank gawd that was dropped at the last minute. It does explain everything though when analyzed. I think it would have destroyed the film and the fudge we were left with was far better and has given us something to discuss for the last 41 years which is part of the reason the film has such a good reputation today. John.

John do you have a facebook or twitter page for making requests? Anyway my favourite movie is Jurassic Park but the 4k blu ray came out so long ago in 2018, that very few trusted reviewers on youtube have looked at it. I would love to hear what you thought. It sometimes pops up in CEX but is being sold for £25 second hand and I wonder if its been discontinued as a stand alone release. It can be bought as a trilogy package but I am not a fan of the 2 sequels. There are several blu ray releases over the years and I dont know how many different transfers these amount to - theres also the 3D Blu ray as well. I hope you will consider looking at the various video releases of this film thanks

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Jurassic Park was not the best looking film I've ever seen at a cinema and initially Laura Dern and the girl got on my nerves but then I purchased the film on Super 8 so we'd have it to run extracts at the British Film Collectors Conventions (www.bfcc.biz) and over the years it grew on me. These days the gals don't get on my nerves so I'm able to enjoy the film but I've never actually watched it on video. If I do see a 4K of it going cheap then I'll pick it up. The Super 8 print came from a 16mm negative which itself was created from a 35mm print so you can see that it's quite a few generations down from where it should have been struck from (i.e. a 16mm negative struck from the Internegative). But it does still look rather good and represents the film I saw at The Empire Leicester Square in 1993 rather well. We've run several extracts at the BFCC over the years and one time we ran the T-Rex sequence with the sound coming from the DVD and running in synch. My THX system was the sound system on the day and the floor of the massive Victoria Hall at the Ealing Town Hall shook which is quite amazing for a domestic sound system in a space that size. By the way, I didn't care for the sequel but I rather liked the third film and Keith Wilton (BFCC head honcho) has a 35mm print of that one. I'll be including the Jurassic World films in 4K in my next video if all goes to plan. John.

@sb6482

3 жыл бұрын

thanks for the information and reply. I look forward to the jurassic world coverage

Hi John. Always like how you connect the dots and provide profound background. Steadycam came to my attention by 1983s Return of the Jedi/ the Endor bike chase and only later I recognised that it was used earlier and so brilliantly e.g. in Shining. Have the 4k too and agree , it’s the HDR which is impressive. I anyway think that it was a Marketing mistake to label the UHDs 4k and promote them as such. The HDR should have been the focus as this is - in my opinion - the much stronger benefit. Like Carrie very much too and have seen 11.22.63 and enjoyed it. Wish you further success with your channel. Gerald

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Good to hear from you again Gerald. The Steadicam was first used in Rocky I think - the famous shot where Sly is running along the sidewalk and the camera tracks him from a van and also when he jogs up the steps to the location where he overlooks the city. Exorcist II The Heretic was another early use but I think it was called the 'Panaglide' then. HDR is the main benefit for our tiny home screens so a marketing name based around that would have been preferable. And as much as I like Blu-ray it's a name that means nothing to most people and tends to put people off the format because it sounds like something they wouldn't understand. Get back to something like DVD and then maybe more people will take it up again. John.

Good review, as always! I did like this film in 4K, it's excellent, I'm just hoping we get a 4K of Barry Lyndon, my favourite of Kubrick's, and one of my favourite of all time.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

All the Kubrick films seem to be appearing Luke so it's quite likely Barry Lyndon won't be too long. John.

@lukekingsland5851

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 fingers crossed. Hoping it gets a nice collectors edition!

Great review John 👍👍....The only problem I have with the 4k over the standard blu ray is the bar scene....on the 4k the contrast is way overblown...and crushing the details around the bar set..... Thanks for your content 👍

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I ran the film with HDR down one setting i.e. about 25%. I do this on quite a few discs as they're all so variable. Might be worth a try Roy because you will probably find the whole film looks better. John.

@RoyMurphy1

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 yea good idea...il try that👍

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoyMurphy1 Let me know how you get on. If it works you'll be messing about with HDR forever more because just about all these discs are different. John.

@RoyMurphy1

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Hi John, IV compared 3 different versions of the shining and at the bar scene each version seems to be brighter than the last Version, The original WB release was encoded in VC-1 with an average bit rate of 15mbps, And the blu ray that comes with the 4k package is a remastered disc that's encoded in the MPEG 4 format with an average bit rate of 22mbps and a vast improvement over the old blu ray....And the 4k version has much higher highlights due to the hdr, The bar scene is Alot brighter but as you said to turn down the hdr....it helps a bit but still a bit over blown for my liking......

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@RoyMurphy1 It would be interesting to see an original film print but I'd put money on it not being as bright as the HDR disc. Even if the brightest lamp possible was punching through film it would still hold the correct contrast levels. But these 4K discs are fabulous and really close to actually running a 35mm film in the home even if there are occasions where the mastering hasn't quite got it 100%. John.

It is a great 4K & i understand your reservations about the film, John. Thanks for the heads up on the Stephen King doc. Keep up the great work, sir! 👍

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gary. Next video will probably be a round-up of other 4K discs I've been watching this month. John.

Another terrific video. I always love seeing the extra things from your collection like the 8mm reels of Carrie and the Steadicam. The Shining is among my favorite films of all time, and the 4k disc is a real treasure. My problem with your interpretation of the "haunted photo" that fills up with the hotel's victims (which otherwise makes a lot of sense) is the repeated statements throughout the film by characters like Grady that Jack has "ALWAYS been the caretaker", that this hotel he's come to the for the first time is somehow also somewhere that he's "always" been. Personally, I'm more interested in following the human element of the characters than the supernatural. The Overlook is a much more magical place in King's novel, which seems to put much of the blame for Jack's growing psychosis on the haunted hotel. In Kubrick's film, by contrast, Jack seems like an abusive, controlling menace from the beginning, and all the hotel provides him is a stage on which to play out his madness. Of course, none of what I just said provides any kind of answer to why there's a picture of Jack in a 50-year-old photo, and frankly, I don't really have an answer. The film seems to imply that Jack is more than just the latest in a string of victims the hotel has haunted; it seems to present him as almost the hotel's main haunter. He's front and center in the photo, and the way Grady says Jack has "always" been the caretaker seems to imply that the previous murders (like the chopped-up twins) were also somehow Jack's doing. But I guess at the end of the day, I'm comfortable leaving that element of the ending ambiguous, and understanding it as somehow symbolic. Jack is dead and frozen out in the hedge maze; Jack is also alive and in charge of the hotel in the past. Honestly, if you need a straightforward explanation that ties it up in a knot, your photo slowing filling up with ghosts ain't half bad...

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I think you'll find some of the other comments and discussion about the ending in the comments on here interesting Craig but to summarize it looks like we've worked it all out. That statement from Jeevesy did cause me some problems and I couldn't explain it but I can now because your interpretation is almost there. Jack is a figment of Wendy's imagination so the scenes we see with him going for the interview and everything else are all in Wendy's mind. I suppose she saw the photo and introduced him into her delusion. The upshot is that the ending in its original form was a complete mess and would have destroyed the film and possibly Kubrick's reputation too so there was a last minute save to leave it all ambiguous and up to the audience to interpret. If you accept that then everything makes sense and falls into place. John.

I went to see the 4k remaster at the cinema - well worth it! It was the first time I'd seen it, although I can't decide if I prefer the film or the book. They're both so distinctly different it almost seems unfair to compare them.

@alpertroncp2198

3 жыл бұрын

Movie Collector I read the book a couple of years ago before I saw the film. It was the book I read as a break between all the books I HAD to read for my literature degree. I enjoyed the book, then loved the film, but I feel like if I were to read the book again it would be impossible to picture what's going on in my head seeing Jack Nicholson and other iconic imagery from the film.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@alpertroncp2198 I fully understand that. John.

I was fortunate to see The Shining in the Theater.It was re released at the Theater a couple of years ago.I wish I could have saw The Shining with a 1980 Audience,I was 8 & I wouldn’t be aloud in the Theater.I ❤️ your video & can’t wait to see this on 4K! Thanks!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It is a very good example of a film to video transfer Chris but it's the high dynamic range function that makes most of these 4K discs what they are and not so much the increased resolution because our tiny home screens are just too small to make the jump from HD to UHD obvious on its own. I never actually saw this film at the cinema. I didn't bother in 1980 because no one seemed to be talking very highly about it but the intervening years have helped and now it's regarded as another Kubrick masterpiece. We watched Ready Player One last night and there's quite a long sequence in that that pays homage to The Shining so worth watching for that if you haven't seen it. John.

I really enjoyed the 11/22/63 novel and thought the adaptation was really great and had me emotional at the end, as the book did.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

The ending of 11.22.63 is beautiful. We all so want them to end up together and it's heartbreaking when it becomes clear that it's impossible. John.

great movie! Have the 4K disc and it’s a brilliant transfer! Thanks for the review always good to hear your thoughts

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to thank me! John.

Have you seen the U.S cut of this film?

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Didn't even know there was one Cian. The edition on this 4K disc isn't actually the original version so maybe this is what was released in the USA. John.

@CianODonnell

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 If you are a fan of the UK version then its worth checking out for curiosity sake. It doesnt add anything worthwhile though in my opinion. The U.S cut runs at 2h 26m as opposed to the UK edit of 113 minutes

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@CianODonnell The disc we have is 2 hours and 24 minutes so seems we pretty much have the same edition of the film now. Perhaps it is the same as that would make sense because then it would mean only one master copy or even one master disc would be required worldwide. John.

@CianODonnell

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 The previous DVD and Blu-Ray editions I have owned were the UK cut, as were all the TV broadcasts I watched down through the years. I only discovered the U.S cut when I went to the cinema re-release a few years back

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@CianODonnell I never knew there was a difference until you put this comment thread up. I suppose a 2 hour edition might have meant UK cinemas could squeeze an extra screening in each day.

Great review as usual .

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mic. John.

Are you planning on reviewing John Carpenter's Christine 4k?

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Might do one day. I only ever saw it on a television broadcast so not the best introduction to any film. I didn't like it much and have avoided it ever since so time to re-visit soon methinks. John.

@theMaster...

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Christine was the best SK book I've read after Pet Sematary. And the movie is one of the best SK translations, with excellent acting from the likes of Harry Dean Stanton. But after the appalling picture of The Fog 4K, I'm hoping Christine can do something better.

@marcevans6913

3 жыл бұрын

Wait, Christine is on 4K? I'll have to look into that. I really liked that movie.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcevans6913 Whoops! I think I'm getting mixed up with the Blu-ray that so many people have featured on their channels. But it will come on 4K because it's John Carpenter. John.

@ArtVandelayOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

I have the 4K disc, very grainy but exceptional clarity. You can actually see the film crew in the cars paint reflection 😄

Another awesome review mate, you seriously know your stuff. I'm looking forward to the 4k steelbook release of Shawshank Redemption even though the artwork ain't great.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Let's hope the steelbook looks better once you see it in the metal because sometimes they surprise. Most of the time they don't though! John.

Thank you. My favourite adaptation is still the Mist

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

That was a surprisingly good film and a great ending too. John.

great review as always.the shining gets better with each viewing.first time watching i thought it was okay.now a dozen viewings later its brilliant. some movies have that effect.theres a 4k 1984 Dune coming soon .how about that.by the way i absolutely love those super 8 packaging. those and us laserdiscs have some amazing covers.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough I just replied to a comment to say that I think The Shining gets better with repeated viewings. I haven't tried the same with the 1984 version of Dune... I thought it was so boring that I've never taken a second look so maybe the time is coming. I loved the book though. John.

hi John. Great review, as always love it. I saw the Lions King. (2019) on 4k the other day, it is definitely one of the great looking pictures on a 4k movies I have seen. if you have not seen it can recommend watching it. greetings from Johnny.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

If that was the cartoon of The Lion King Johnny then cartoons do tend to look sharper because of the outlines around the drawings. It was the same on Super 8 but The Lion King was still an exceptional Super 8 release. Having said that, Disney got it horribly wrong with The Little Mermaid on Super 8 as they'd forgotten how to produce a negative! John.

@jlaplaable

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 hi john. first thanks for your reply no the computer-animated movie, from Director Jon Favreau. Greetings from Johnny, seen in your next video.

I always felt that everyone has the latent Shining and some are more active like Jack & Danny. That’s why Jack is able to unlock the outside of the freezer cuz the hotel is controlling him and his power to kill is family so their Shine can be absorbed like in Doctor Sleep

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good take on it Mark. I haven't seen Doctor Sleep because I don't want to risk it spoiling The Shining for me but enough people have told me that it doesn't do that so I will probably take a look soon. John.

"Just give me money and I'll do shit for you" LOL on a serious note , HEAT ,THE THING are coming to 4K very soon, hope you'll preorder them ... I know I will

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen Heat since its original theatrical run so I will have to take another look at that sometime. The Thing is a certainty though. John.

@kovalveli

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Misery ,Silence Of the lambs and A Clockwork Orange are also coming to 4K in next 3 months or so, great times for movie fans and physical media in general ,since everything new in theaters sucks, its great to see that all the major studios still supply us with "new" releases. Ps. the remake of DUNE is coming to theaters in October ,have you seen the original from 1984 ,and what are your thought on the new one , the trailer has dropped today btw.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@kovalveli Dune will be interesting. But if they cock it up a second time that will be the end of it I think. I'll be excited to see the take on Asimov's Foundation series too which is a big budget television series in production right now. Another almost impossible space saga to fully capture on film so we'll see what happens with both of them.

@kovalveli

3 жыл бұрын

​@@moviecollector5920 Foundation and Dune both look interesting ,something to look forward to, let's just hope that the big budget doesn't disappoint this time. I do trust in Jared Harris tho, great actor.

Extremely interesting thank you for a great video. The shinning in 4k is incredible I think 👍

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It's transferred very well to 4K disc and I doubt it would be possible to get much more out of it. Probably could with a new 35mm print off the original camera negative though! John.

Kubrick's daughters behind the scenes film shot on location is really good she captured the events and the scene with Kubrick directing Shelley Duvall is brilliant.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I watched that first time without the commentary and second time with the commentary. It's very telling. I don't think I'd have taken the treatment that Shelley Duvall got very well. Kubrick might have found himself with a black eye if it were me. John.

I love this channel, it remembers like 60minutes tv show of the movies.

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

I'm rather fond of it too John so thank you. Takes far too much time to produce the videos though but I'm getting that down as time goes on. John.

I think the ghosts at Overlook lives in a microcosm of there own in which time is standing still and where it is always a 4 July party going on. People can become part of it and they are all assigned new roles. Hence, Grady is not the caretaker anymore. That role has been reserved for Jack. The photo is there to show that Jack has now joined the ensemble.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

That's a good interpretation Dirk. You may find some of the comments below quite interesting as I've had some interesting discussions with fellow film buffs and there have been some other good interpretations among them. I was going down the same route as your own conclusion so between us we're probably not too far off the mark. However, it does seem that the ending intended was abandoned at the last minute and that's why we're still trying to work it out today. Apparently the intention was to imply that it had all been in Wendy's head... ridiculous but true. John.

@Dirkschneider

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 I think the truth is that neither Kubrick or the writer had a very defined idea of what they were trying to accomplish. But the party theme seem to run through both the film (masquerade costumes, "Great party, isn't it?") and the novel (confetti and balloons are found in the elevator that start operating on it's own). Kubrick was apparently tired of his films being over analysed. He seemed morr focused on making his films work as movies rather than hiding messages.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@Dirkschneider The best thing about the ending is that here we are more than 40 years later still discussing it and reaching alternative conclusions. At the time of first release it was a bit annoying not to have a defined ending but over the years it's turned out to be one of its biggest strengths.

Great info, thanks.

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

I think the recent sequel is darned good too Gary. John.

Another great review John. But I think that end theory is stretching it 😉...There are so many theories and I'd recommend watching the Documentary, Room 237 for some of the best. The sequel, Dr Sleep is very good too and gives you an idea of what was happening in the original film...either way, you may have opened a can of worms sharing a theory on The Shining 😆

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

That was the plan! If I do learn of a more plausible theory I'll be jolly relieved but I think the truth of it is that even the film makers didn't understand it. The nonsense I've cooked up does answer all the questions though even if it is complete tosh! John.

The Shining is so much about the atmosphere of dread and spooky occurances. It's more or less the Jack Nicholson Show. But all performances are top tier. Director Kubrick tortured Shelley Long to wring a hysterical performance, something frowned upon nowadays. Great movie, one of the best.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

It's just been pointed out to me that I said Shelley Long when it's actually Shelley Duvall. Sometimes I should darned well get someone to check what I'm about to say! But The Money Pit's a great film too and I'm sure Shelley Long would have been great in The Shining as well even if she wouldn't have looked quite so upset as Shelley Duvall at times. John.

@jonastiger1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 I thought it was Duvall, but I corrected myself when I wrote Long, imdb is our friend 😊

@jonastiger1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 No problem, sometimes we all make those mistakes. No need to edit the video, it's just a little innocent mistake. You do great content, just keep going, mistakes will happen and it's a part of learning from them.

Absolutely love the shinning. One of my fav horrors. Love my bluray. Good review again john

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's a film that gets better with repeated viewings. Better watch it again then! John.

@OnlyKronix

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 oh 100%. I find that with almost all Kubricks

That ending explanation makes a lot of sense... Another great vid, very insightful as always. It's always a pleasure seeing your vids in my sub box :)

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Always a pleasure to read your comments Chaddy. Next video should be a round-up of the 4Ks I've seen this month that I haven't reviewed. Still got a couple more to watch I think but they've all been pretty good so far. John.

@HardRockMaster7577

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer The Wendy Theory...

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@HardRockMaster7577 The Wendy theory appears to be the original ending but it probably would have been the end of Kubrick, or at least, he wouldn't have been taken seriously any longer. Thank gawd he didn't go down that route as we've been conned by that same ending by so many film makers. The worst example is the Jake Gyllenhaal 'Enemy'. John.

Amazing transfer, i don't know about others, but my copy had some stutter in the opening sequence. And the panoramic shot of the car driving through the mointains.

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

That is not apparent on my copy but I am a little concerned that 4K discs may not have the longevity of standard Blu-ray so it's possible any laser rot at all could cause a problem as the compression to fit 4K imagery onto these discs may be a little beyond what is really possible. Probably wrong but I have a couple of discs that are knackered already and that's not something I came across at all with standard Blu-ray. John.

@fmulder1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 It is not my player , and the other 4ks i own don't have the problem . i thought Kubrick did it intentional the shakiness in the beginning to give that horror feel if that makes any sense.

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@fmulder1989 If it's the slightly unsteady helicopter camera then that was normal back then because gimbals didn't exist and strapping some sort of Steadicam mount to the aircraft wasn't something that was ever done to my knowledge. It was amazing how stable that opening shot was really. John.

@fmulder1989

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 now you mention it makes sense. Nolan in later years managed it with an imax cam on top a spitfire .

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@fmulder1989 A Spitfire is quite likely a smoother flight than a helicopter but it's also possible that some sort of gimbal was in use by the time Nolan was making films, even for a massive, heavy IMAX 70mm camera.

I know I'm two years late but... I think you're correct about the ending, but have overlooked one piece. Jack Torrence is there to write, Wendy is a horror and ghost story fanatic, and "they're like pictures in a book Danny, they're not real". Jack, in the green shirt is writing the story we see, once Danny enters room 237. That's when Jack awakes from a nightmare(red jacket), and Danny becomes Tony, Wendy even says "Wake up Danny, you're having a bad dream". We see Jack, in green shirt, typing for a few seconds, around when Dick Halloran is on his way back.

@moviecollector5920

6 ай бұрын

That's all pretty damned good Marz, thank you. A good excuse to watch The Shining again... and I have a new copy of the disc now because that original copy developed the dreaded 4K fault so your timing couldn't be better. John.

@marzcapone9939

6 ай бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 I think Kubrick gave us clues via the dialogue, and the music. Polyformia, is the strange music that plays, about every time that strangeness happens. It means many forms. Like the music from 2001, when the monolith shows up, it's a clue to a repeating shift. Some phrases in the movie.... Self induced auto-hypnosis wake up Danny, wake up I had the most horrible nightmare Like pictures from a book, it's not real I'm outlining a new writing project

@moviecollector5920

6 ай бұрын

@@marzcapone9939 It all seems like good, plausible theory to me Marz. At the time of making this video I was considering a discussion video about what it's all really about. Sadly there didn't seem to be enough interest at the time so I dropped the idea. John.

@marzcapone9939

6 ай бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 I'd watch it. Many facets to the movie. Different people have different insights.

Thank you John this is one of my favorite discs. How did you like those sweeping shots from helicopter through the snowcapped glacier national park to open the film? It really sets the mood and captures what is to come... isolation and terror!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to mention the opening helicopter shots Theo and how it gave a foretaste of what was coming with the Steadicam later on but when it came to it I thought I'd be complicating things and causing more work for myself. If I'd have been preparing this film for a 4K release I'd have run Black Magic Design Davinci Resolve stabiliser over those helicopter shots just to make them completely, totally smooth. But that might have upset some people so it's understandable.

Agreed, it's the least loyal Syephen King but as a horror cult film, or "auteur horror" it's arguably the best ever made. Its a film I can just throw on and watch with the sound off and have the imagery wash over my eyes. My favourite King film adaptation is CUJO from 1983 - which I was happy to find out is also King's personal favourite. Have you seen it?

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think I did ever see Cujo. I remember a friend reading the book and telling me how good it was but I didn't get to the book either. Maybe the thought of a mad, deadly dog didn't float my boat at the time. I'll have to take a look soon. John.

One my favourite s horror s. Just got docter sleep. Might put on tonight it looks gd 👍

The 4k is superb especially in the bathroom scene with grady it's my fav movie can't tell how many times I've seen it

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

They certainly put some effort into getting the best out of the 35mm negative. I'm not even aware of anyone complaining that the colour grading is slightly different on this one!!! John.

@markhempenstall5379

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 it was the first 4k I got john amazing your doing a great job love your channel I would love to see them do 4k of some oldies like Shane or the grapes of wrath thank you for replying 😊

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@markhempenstall5379 Cor, Shane! My friend has a 35mm Technicolor print of that one. It's a bit knackered but who cares because it's a 35mm Technicolor print?!?!? John.

Thanks to your reviews I've just upgraded to 4K and Dolby Atmos. I believe I'm getting The Shining and 2001 on HDR Blu Ray from Father Christmas!

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

They'll make for a merry Christmas... add Murder On The Orient Express onto the list and it will make a VERY merry Christmas! John.

@loftlegacy

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Hi John, you've just reminded me of your fantastic review of Murder of the Orient Express on 4k and have just ordered it myself! Thanks for the recommendation, Dave

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@loftlegacy That is the best video quality I have ever seen. Next best is probably Tenet but if you don't already know Tenet then it can be a little confusing. I had to watch the film twice as well as all the extras in order to work it all out for the review. The common denominator for all the best 4K discs is their origination on 65mm or 70mm film. That's not a surprise to me but you'll be hard pushed to find anyone else doing these reviews who has much comprehension of that. John.

@loftlegacy

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 John, I think your channel is fantastic as it's got that depth of technical knowledge and you have such a good way of describing film to the lay person consumer (such as me). Dave

My three favorite Stephen King books are The Stand (the most recent TV version wasn't very good but the old one with lieutenant Dan was great) 11.22.63 (i didn't like the changes they made but the actress playing Sadie was stunningly gorgeous ) and Under The Dome ( there is a special place reserved in hell for the person responsible for that TV show).

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Films rarely live up to the books but Carrie is an exception and perhaps The Shining even though it's apparently so different that Stephen King was rather upset with it. I saw the original The Stand television mini series when it was first broadcast. I barely remember anything other than I though the first part was good and whatever came after wasn't. Maybe if I saw it again today I'd have a vastly different opinion. John.

Excellent review!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! John.

Great review John, but you are making me feel old. I saw both Carrie and Piranha on original release after I had got married!!!!

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

I'm making myself feel old Brian! But I wouldn't have changed anything as it's all been such an adventure. John.

I live right by Elm Wood & across live across the street from where Full Metal Jacket was shot...

@moviecollector5920

Ай бұрын

It is amazing how it all looked so like we imagine Vietnam and the Vietnam war. What an achievement. John.

You are correct when stating that The Shining was not greatly received at the time of release. As I recall, reviews were mixed (Nicholson's character was a bit too off balance from the beginning) and I am surprised that it is now regarded as such a classic. I had seen it in the theatre at the time of its original release in my early twenties. I did like the film very much at the time and still do , but didn't really consider it such a "horror" film because it wasn't really that scary..more creepy than scary, although it certainly was and is impressive visually. I remember folks in the theatre were laughing at times.. especially when title cards (such as "TUESDAY") would appear with dramatic music-- The audience would read the title card out loud and laugh!.. I had also seen Carrie in the theatre at the time of release and the audience responded much more appropriately.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

The Shining may have been ahead of its time I suppose Stephen but I tend to think that it's more that people have seen it more than once and that is necessary to appreciate it. Jack Nicholson's performance did put me off back in 1980 but now it doesn't bother me and I can clearly see why he was considered a shoe-in for the role of The Joker in the 1989 Batman. Many films from around the same time are now considered masterpieces that rather missed the mark on original release and Apocalypse Now is a prime example in that regard. John.

Well if you go off the ending Kubrick cut becuase it was too much like psycho where the hotel manger tells Wendy that she was the one hired to clean and care for the overlook and that their was no jack. He had the projectionist cut the scene since the prints sent to theaters did have the scene intact. I find that makes the most sense as the opening is Wendy going to the hotel with Danny & all the interactions between everyone means that the three people had the shine which is why they didn’t think anything of it; so they saw all the ghosts the haunted hotel always had. I don’t think it holds up that well since it means you were purposely shown scenes that didn’t actually happen like in joker but as the actual reveal of what did happen was cut we are only left with the ending of the picture that was the icing ontop of the he was always the groundskeeper line from the ballroom scene.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Just as well that ending didn't make it into the world then. Terrible. And we've seen it so many times before. A few years ago we sat down to watch a really interesting film starring Jake Gyllenhaal called 'Enemy'. We were both really struggling to work it all out and then all of a sudden it went off. Basically the same ending as you've outlined and we both felt quite angry about it as we'd wasted two hours watching what was essentially a con. If we ever run Enemy again we might see it differently but without the knowledge of the stupid ending ahead of time it ruined the whole film. Same would have happened with The Shining. But it does explain that conversation with Jeevsy the waiter when he tells Jack that he's always been the caretaker. I'm amazed that Stanley Kubrick almost got it so wrong. Thank gawd he cut that out at the last minute otherwise he might not be quite so well regarded today. As is they'd take on a single mother to maintain a hotel like that through a winter. It was a stretch having Jack and his family left all alone but a mother and child only. Ridiculous. Thanks for filling me in on this though. John.

@Thecatdrums3

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 yeah, it is a shame we can’t see the actual scene as he filmed it but it is a stretch to think even with a recommendation that during the harshest winter on record they would hire a single women in the 80s no less to care for a giant hotel. I guess with modern views it could be rediscovered as a feminist film but it is like you said a very hard ending to sale on people. It does however explain why jack is reading playgirl & why in the interview at the beginning he brings in another person for their opinion as they are so worried about her taking care of the hotel and when jack says that Wendy likes horror stories because they know about the hotels past the scene ends becuase in fact Wendy told them that to get the job at the haunted hotel. It all works but like you said that’s far too much to unpack at the end of a film and would have needed to been pulled off so perfectly to win everyone over. The right call seems to have been made. Would still love to see the deleted scenes he filmed

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thecatdrums3 It's all this mystery and what might have been that has made the film so successful because we still find ourselves talking about it over 40 years later. That in itself is quite amazing. Thank gawd they saved the day right at the end otherwise none of us would be able to watch the film today with that original ending. John.

What a classic film! Has to be one of Jack Nicholson best performances, great review as always 👍 😎

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Jack Nicholson has done so many great performances but this is certainly one of them. The Joker might be his best but I really like him in The Bucket List with Morgan Freeman. John.

@shamrockballs1066

3 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Randle P. McMurphy

A most excellent episode. Thank you.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Nikolaki. John.

I know not Shining but have u ever seen a 35mm print of Ken Russel The Devils?

@moviecollector5920

Ай бұрын

Nope. Never actually seen the film but Cinema Retro did a piece on it a year or two back so there must be some knowledge all about it tucked away in my brain. John.

@nc-1715

Ай бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Ah john!!!!! This is a must see my friend.

There's a film documentary Room 237 by Rodney Ascher which has elaborate theories on this film some are way out there but other pose really interesting points - watch with an open mind.

@moviecollector5920

3 жыл бұрын

There have been quite a few comments on here about the ending and it seems that 'it was all in Wendy's head' theory was the original ending. Dear oh dear! So we've got to be thankful Kubrick or someone forced a last minute change. John.

I bought this yesterday and watched , I was blown away by the PQ and AQ of the 4k, its a film Ive not seen from start to finish either so was really surprised how great it was but this has defiantly been one of the best 4ks

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

It's not quite up there with the best Carl but it's a very good 35mm transfer so probably one of the best of those. For the best image quality on 4K look for those originating on 70mm and 15/70 IMAX such as Death on the Nile and Tenet. Apocalypse Now and Jaws are the best 35mm transfers on my home system. For the best movies shot on video I think Le Mans '66 and perhaps Fast & Furious 8 are among the best I've seen and do prove that video can work. John.

@C4rL72

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Thanks John for the info, I will definatly look into 70mm films as a starting point. I agree with Jaws its superb onmy system too ( 82 OLED Samsung, with Denon Amp AVR-X2700H )

@moviecollector5920

2 жыл бұрын

@@C4rL72 The Shining isn't quite as good as Jaws and Apocalypse Now (as far as my recollections go anyway) but it's different to project video rather than watch on a telly so you may find it looks better on your system than it does on mine. 82 inches must be over five feet wide so that's a big telly! You almost need masking and curtains on that one. John.

@C4rL72

2 жыл бұрын

@@moviecollector5920 Yeah it just fit on my chimney breast ( old terraced house) but its a cracking TV with great upscale abilites, calibrated correct its a stunning picture.