The Shepherd of Hermas Explained with Dr. Michael Svigel

Delve deep into the complexities and nuances of one of early Christianity's most enigmatic works: The Shepherd of Hermas. We'll journey through this ancient text of the Shepherd of Hermas with our guest Dr. Michael Svigel, who addresses a range of thought-provoking questions:
Historical Authenticity: Explore whether the Shepherd of Hermas we have today is historically accurate and reflects the original work.
Authorship: Uncover insights into whether this text was a collective effort or the singular vision of one author.
Literary Genre: Understand the unique blend of genres that define the Shepherd of Hermas, from visionary revelation to moral instruction.
Prophetic or Satirical? Debate the true nature of Hermas's experiences - were they genuine prophetic visions or satirical allegories?
Early Church Perspectives: Learn how early Church Fathers like Irenaeus, Clement, and Tertullian viewed this text, from its edifying qualities to its scriptural authority.
Scriptural Connections: Discover the intriguing ways the Shepherd of Hermas interweaves Biblical themes without direct quotations.
Christian or Jewish Identity: Investigate the Christological aspects within the text and its alignment with early Christian beliefs.
Hermas's Spiritual Journey: Follow Hermas's evolution from a struggling believer to a mature Christian through the narrative's structure of Visions, Mandates, and Similitudes.
Visionary Imagery & Symbolism: Delve into the vivid depictions of spiritual realms and their implications for understanding early Christian eschatology and ethics.
Dr. Svigel's comprehensive analysis illuminates the Shepherd of Hermas's role in early Christian thought, its distinctive literary style, and its enduring relevance in understanding the development of Christian doctrine and practice. Don't miss this engaging episode that brings new depth to our understanding of early Christian literature and its impact on the church's formation.
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  • @pacepacesplanet5829
    @pacepacesplanet58292 күн бұрын

    I think it quotes plenty. For example it says "pray without ceasing" I thought there was a lot more. The book is amazing teaching how to fight, and guard against sin, how to refrain, how to repent.

  • @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj
    @BrendaBoykin-qz5dj7 ай бұрын

    Thank you, Brothers🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @mustbsavdbyjesus
    @mustbsavdbyjesus7 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @BobbyU808
    @BobbyU8087 ай бұрын

    Maranatha

  • @pacepacesplanet5829
    @pacepacesplanet58292 күн бұрын

    It quotes the creation as well.

  • @user-cz3tg4gk3y
    @user-cz3tg4gk3y7 ай бұрын

    Remnant radio lads always asking the right questions!

  • @renlamomtsopoe
    @renlamomtsopoe7 ай бұрын

    Transition on 0:13 so good

  • @nichill7474
    @nichill74747 ай бұрын

    I enjoy the Shepherd of Hermas. It was a real interesting read but the last 1/3 i was totally confused. I will have to reread it soon.

  • @pacepacesplanet5829

    @pacepacesplanet5829

    2 күн бұрын

    Do audio bible, read by Christopher Glynn, ya the 1st three quarters are great about the Holy Spirit

  • @jonmarkbaker
    @jonmarkbaker7 ай бұрын

    Missed the live 'cause I was watching one of your other videos! What a shame.

  • @TheRemnantRadio

    @TheRemnantRadio

    7 ай бұрын

    Next time!

  • @jr0706
    @jr07066 ай бұрын

    This is really interesting as a window into the church in such an early period. Something Dr. Svigel said about this work as satirical reminds me of something I just learned in my recent class on 1 & 2 Corinthians, where Paul in 2 Cor 11 brags on his struggles and weaknesses. It seems as if Paul was being satirical and parodied the res gestae of Caesar, where he would have bragged on his accomplishments (something the “super-apostles” apparently were also doing). I love what parody and satire done right can accomplish. This is something even Jesus did.

  • @littleboots9800
    @littleboots98007 ай бұрын

    I was just thinking "oh I hope they do the Didache," and then you said it! This was great.

  • @kylamcclain479
    @kylamcclain4797 ай бұрын

    Never heard of this !

  • @chrystalbrown9600

    @chrystalbrown9600

    7 ай бұрын

    I haven't either! Interesting. 🙂

  • @jessie4696

    @jessie4696

    Ай бұрын

    It used to be a part of the New Testament.

  • @tommarshall3365
    @tommarshall33657 ай бұрын

    Love your show...thanks for all you do. Is there a reason you have taken down the series on the Kansas City Prophets from the KZread channel?

  • @TheRemnantRadio

    @TheRemnantRadio

    7 ай бұрын

    It should still be there. I’ll double check

  • @tommarshall3365

    @tommarshall3365

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheRemnantRadio thank you, it's a brilliant series...at the moment it just says 'videos in this playlist are unavailable...'

  • @Wildasin
    @Wildasin6 ай бұрын

    Was wondering if there is any eschatological insight that may been understood from the Shepherd of Hermas or how the early church may have depicted it?

  • @relwod83
    @relwod83Ай бұрын

    I'm with Tertullian on this one. Deut 24 - 4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

  • @mikecollett1173
    @mikecollett11737 ай бұрын

    Lady could be lady wisdom Holy Spirit. Count Zinzindorf, mother of the church quote

  • @savedbyGrace1234
    @savedbyGrace12347 ай бұрын

    @ MichealRountre I got to talk to your wife- she prayed over me- I’ve felt peace ever since !

  • @BlackAxe96
    @BlackAxe967 ай бұрын

    Roads...?! Where we're going, we don't need 'roads'.

  • @RandomChristianMusings

    @RandomChristianMusings

    7 ай бұрын

    😆😂🤣 That was hilarious! Our "road" is the Word (I know that you know this) By the looks of it, we need to buckle up. This 'off road' ride is gonna get bumpy

  • @PlaymakersInTheFaith
    @PlaymakersInTheFaith7 ай бұрын

    The Shepherd of Hermas was life changing for me. I was joyful and grieved at the same time when reading it. I was joyful because many of the things spoken in it the Holy Spirit shared with me years ago. I was grieved because many don’t know about it and every Christian should read it. I believe it should be canon and in our bibles today. It was found in 3 manuscripts especially the oldest bible codex sinaitucus.

  • @infidel7778
    @infidel77786 ай бұрын

    The Shepard was post trib or pre wrath too! Read Vision 4. Read the ENTIRE Vision 4. Soothkeep has a video saying the Shepard was pre trib. WRONG! Lee Brainard was very deceptive in his video about the Shepard. Brainard only quotes the FIRST PART of Vision 4 to push his pretrib poverty. If you read the entire Vision, it's obvious that the Shepard is post or pre wrath..

  • @micheletisdale7467
    @micheletisdale74677 ай бұрын

    Reminds me of a Shakespeare play

  • @calebstarcher4934
    @calebstarcher49346 ай бұрын

    I can tell the hat guy didnt read the book at all

  • @TJMcCarty
    @TJMcCarty6 ай бұрын

    I'm SOOOO thankful this book didn't make it into the Canon. I think this book is where the doctrine of Purgatory originated. These are some moments/teachings from that book: - the moment of salvation in baptism for the remission of sins, - then if you ever sin again after that you only have one more chance after baptism to repent of whatever sin, - then if you continue to sin after that, no amount of repentance will matter anymore; you will have to be tortured after death for those unrepentant sins before you are allowed into Heaven. I really think this book is what caused the unbiblical doctrine of Purgatory to enter the Church. From then on, people weren't just worried about getting out of Hell so they can make it into Heaven; Christians started worrying about sins that we would be judged for BEFORE making it into Heaven. You would have to be tortured for any unrepentant sins / any unforgiven sins after death before getting into Heaven. I'm thankful that in Christ, ALL our sins are washed away. Christ's death on the Cross was the final sacrifice required to take away the sins of the world.

  • @calebstarcher4934

    @calebstarcher4934

    6 ай бұрын

    Just a couple thoughts since you seem quite ignorant. Baptismal regeneration was the universal view of Christians until the 1500's. And since they didn't see salvation as a moment of time, most of your point is moot. You don't understand purgatory, and have a strawman view of it. Purgatory is the post-death sanctifying of believers. Nothing in Hermas refers to this. Also, you should be scared of your sinning, and should be in the constant battle of repentance.

  • @itisitisirish532
    @itisitisirish5325 ай бұрын

    have you visited a Christian book store lately? how many books are inspired, and who do you trust? judge righteously “And unrighteousness shall again be consummated on the earth, And all the deeds of unrighteousness and of violence And transgression shall prevail in a twofold degree. And when sin and unrighteousness and blasphemy And violence in all kinds of deeds increase, And apostasy and transgression and uncleanness increase, A great chastisement shall come from heaven upon all these, And the holy Lord will come forth with wrath and chastisement To execute judgement on earth. In those days violence shall be cut off from its roots, And the roots of unrighteousness together with deceit, And they shall be destroyed from under heaven. And all the idols of the heathen shall be abandoned, And the temples burned with fire, And they shall remove them from the whole earth, And they (i.e. the heathen) shall be cast into the judgement of fire, And shall perish in wrath and in grievous judgement for ever. And the righteous shall arise from their sleep, and And wisdom shall arise and be given unto them.”

  • @relwod83
    @relwod83Ай бұрын

    I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1 6-10

  • @andrewgeorge7898
    @andrewgeorge78987 ай бұрын

    "For the Lord has sworn by His glory, in regard to His elect, that if any one of them sin after a certain day which has been fixed, he shall not be saved. For the repentance of the righteous has limits." This would seem to contradict new testament teaching that we are saved by faith in Christ. In fact I dont see salvation by faith in Christ anywhere. I see all the other comments are positive, so am I missing something?

  • @hmommy3

    @hmommy3

    7 ай бұрын

    You may be missing that The Elect are the Hebrews. The writer of Hebrews (I think Paul or Barnabas) made it clear that there’s a cutoff point for them. As there is for all of us (see rev 22) Eventually time runs out. Judgment falls.

  • @TJMcCarty

    @TJMcCarty

    6 ай бұрын

    You're not missing anything. I'm SOOOO thankful this book didn't make it into the Canon. I think this book is where the doctrine of Purgatory originated. These are some moments/teachings from that book: - the moment of salvation in baptism for the remission of sins, - then if you ever sin again after that you only have one more chance after baptism to repent of whatever sin, - then if you continue to sin after that, no amount of repentance will matter anymore; you will have to be tortured after death for those unrepentant sins before you are allowed into Heaven. I really think this book is what caused the unbiblical doctrine of Purgatory to enter the Church. From then on, people weren't just worried about getting out of Hell so they can make it into Heaven; Christians started worrying about sins that we would be judged for BEFORE making it into Heaven. You would have to be tortured for any unrepentant sins / any unforgiven sins after death before getting into Heaven. I'm thankful that in Christ, ALL our sins are washed away. Christ's death on the Cross was the final sacrifice required to take away the sins of the world.

  • @Eriken1
    @Eriken16 ай бұрын

    @TheRemnantRadio Not a single question about one repentace for christians after baptism? Seriously?...Thats scary... If that is what the early christians believed I personally think they would know more about God then we do 2000 years later.

  • @calebstarcher4934

    @calebstarcher4934

    6 ай бұрын

    You are reading a strawman of the text. It isn't meant to be taken literally, just that unrepentant sin is serious, and that just 1 unrepentant sin can separate you from Christ.

  • @calebstarcher4934

    @calebstarcher4934

    6 ай бұрын

    And, the early Church did know more, that's why you are uncomfortable.

  • @Jonathan-mw2re
    @Jonathan-mw2re7 ай бұрын

    I read a good chuck of this book and that night i woke up and saw an image of the baphamet on my ceiling fan. I decided i would not open that book again after i had this vision. Ive also had a similar experience with the book of Enoch. I woke up after reading it in middle of the night and couldnt see out of one of my eyes until i said in Jesus name my sight is restored and immediately i could see again. I dont have these type of things happen to me when i read the bible so i am in conclusion the Holy Spirit is warning me to stay away from these books.

  • @orangepeel3465

    @orangepeel3465

    7 ай бұрын

    Wowow. This is very interesting. I will take note! Thanks.

  • @freegracerevival

    @freegracerevival

    7 ай бұрын

    Because it’s a book of works righteousness bs.

  • @calebstarcher4934

    @calebstarcher4934

    6 ай бұрын

    Lmao take schizo meds

  • @Jonathan-mw2re

    @Jonathan-mw2re

    6 ай бұрын

    @calebstarcher4934 sounds like a horrible idea.

  • @freegracerevival
    @freegracerevival7 ай бұрын

    Cringe works righteousness garbage. Wasn’t part of canon for a reason.

  • @calebstarcher4934

    @calebstarcher4934

    6 ай бұрын

    Who put together the canon? And it isn't works-righteousness, it is just serious about sin, and recognizes the obvious fact that unrepentant sin can damn you.

  • @justinbennett379

    @justinbennett379

    3 ай бұрын

    "Maybe we have gone too far in the other direction. It sounds legalistic because we are bordering licentiousness in our own church contexts."

  • @freegracerevival

    @freegracerevival

    3 ай бұрын

    @@calebstarcher4934 you have eternal life or you don’t. The only sin that will damn you is not believing in Jesus for eternal life. Ironically you need to repent of your flesh trusting friend. Believe in Jesus and be saved.

  • @calebstarcher4934

    @calebstarcher4934

    3 ай бұрын

    @@freegracerevival can you find me one Church Father who believed that? Because if you didn't know, once-saved-always-saved was invented by Calvin and is a man-made tradition. I'm not understanding the flesh-trusting thing, can you show me where that was mentioned?

  • @freegracerevival

    @freegracerevival

    3 ай бұрын

    @@calebstarcher4934 Ahh Jesus… ”Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.“ ‭‭John‬ ‭5‬:‭24‬ ‭KJV‬‬ I couldn’t care less what sinful man has to say about anything much less reprobate Calvin. Jesus said it, I believe it. Good luck on judgment day.