Well done for keeping this history alive!

My grandmother used to take me to Watervliet to visit her family. My fourth great grandfather was recovering from the Revolutionary War and went there for some quiet time. Our families never lived far away from each other until this generation.

Thank you so very much for a wonderful video about the Shakers!!! I am from Pennsylvania, outside of Philadelphia, and I went to a girls private school, where I need to write a history paper for my American history senior course. So I wrote a paper on the Amish, the Mennonites, and the Shakers! And I loved doing that paper!! But I have to say that I don’t think I found so much material on the Shakers, including quite a bit more on the Amish and perhaps the Mennonites also… anyway, that was quite a while ago… But I intend on watching this other video I just saw posted with this one on the Shakers, and hopefully I will learn a lot more!! Thank you to any and all again…

Unfortunately it’s difficult to keep a religion going without reproducing despite all the amazing creative ventures they pioneered.

@Magnulus76

Ай бұрын

They reproduced through conversion and adoption. Early Christianity was ambivalent about reproduction, too. Lots of women became consecrated virgins or martyrs as a way to liberate themselves from gender norms.

Came here after reading about the shakers in a design book, great material!

Whatever you think about the political theory I'm not sure why no one mentions communism/ socialism when speaking on the Shakers. Frederick Engels, the co writer of The Communist Manifesto also considered one of the "fathers of communism" had specifically used the success of the Shakers as an argument for said theory in several of his writings. I've had to do my own research to find this and cant find it on any official historical Shaker Website or documentary on the Shakers. Its a very important part of the story that for some odd reason, doesn't like to be talked about.

Thank you.

How can there be hope if there is no progeny? What do they do instead? Proselytize? I need to read more.... That WOULD avoid genetic problems caused by relatively tiny, exclusively communities. Fascinating!

@gevansmd1

2 жыл бұрын

Correct, they sought new converts but also adopted children.

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Solid concept but with no procreation you are always at the mercy of your ability to get new converts. Not surprised it fell apart.

@erinellen3955

Жыл бұрын

Procreation is the biggest lie. Procreating id-iots does nothing for the species. Only the strong and intelligent survive.

@katew3818

Жыл бұрын

They did fine while they had orphanages, as some kids joined.

It’s the past tense that bothers me the most. The Shakers are still alive - they didn’t believe, they do believe. I don’t believe Brother Arnold - a boy from Massachusetts wants to be remembered as a chair.

@johnrogers9065

3 ай бұрын

Amen

Runyon

The shakers were compagnons. Companions of duty

I’m sorry, but the plans for the shaker museum look awful with the modern architecture. Do everyone a favor and make it traditional, instead of 21st century style.

@MrJrlilman

Жыл бұрын

I agree, a traditional building showing where things were used would be better and beautiful maybe.

@sherrimcferran3641

11 ай бұрын

Cornelius et al : What is Your Opinion about the Knobs typically found on Shaker Cabinetry ? ... and Are you Associated with the Glee Club mentioned in the Video Description ?

@garki1369

2 ай бұрын

It would cost too much for the materials and craftsmanship to make it so. Which is what makes the Shakers so unique in their time and spiritual expression.

its not a shaker museum that nees building..its a shaker society... what has the world come to

@cambino66

8 ай бұрын

It would only be possible if the covenant allowed marriage and procreations/sex. Not that I agree but a lot of Americans don't really like communist communities either. Engels, specifically called the shakers the founders of modern day communism and uses them as an argument for successful communist/ socialist societies.

@farealwitit7947

6 ай бұрын

eh, i dont think so

the OG's of Twerking... wow! Shakers!

Celibate? A woman started this thing?? No wonder it didn’t last. Other than some fine craftsmanship, like the Amish, they were completely wrong. No wonder!

@drthoughtprovoker1478

Жыл бұрын

Right! I mean they act like Jesus didn't tell us all stories about his wife and children!!! They must not read. I mean and to think that Jesus was telling us to not be of this world, and then thinking that procreation is part of this world is just lunacy!!!! Right? Because sacrificing the most worldly desire imaginable is probably exactly not what he was saying at all right? Think about it. I think they are the message the world doesn't want to hear. But maybe it's too straight and narrow of a mindset to achieve.

@CalienteDesign

Жыл бұрын

You are an i@#$t. They did last it is not required to be celibate. Only if you lived in the community. Lots of Shakers married Quakers and we are legion in the government and highest levels of society, grunt.

@KlineDeere

11 ай бұрын

How is Jesus telling us to fill our quivers and being fruitful and multiplying our offspring worldly??? Its not this was a cult.

@------------Naheed------------

4 ай бұрын

The woman who started it. All her 4 children died in infancy so that may be a reason why she advocated for celibacy

@Magnulus76

Ай бұрын

They were basically dancing Quaker monastics.

Shakers in a nut shell “cult” . Period .

6:46 congrats on their women's rights. Now look at them. 6 feet in the ground with nothing to remember their ideology by with the exception of some fancy brooms and their skeletal remains.

interesting. strange cult with some heretical beliefs.

My ex step grandmother grew up with the Shakers. Her name was Kelly I believe she changed her name. She has two adopted children and my ex step father went by Mike even though his name was Vernon. We weren’t allowed to watch Nickelodeon as kids when we visited her. She’s was a pain in the ass along with her son Vernon. Vernon was an abusive piece of 💩 and never worked, made my teenage years hell until I was sent to placement and my mother divorced him. Always hitting me, touching me where he shouldn’t have been. I’m so glad I got away from him and my mom saw his true colors. I guess he dates another woman now with a child. I pray he doesn’t beat and molest the child like he did to me.