The SHADY Origins of Rouge the Bat | Origin Oracle
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Rouge the Bat first appeared alongside Shadow the Hedgehog in Sonic Adventure 2 and left quite the...impression on Sonic fans. Now as a permanent member of the Sonic cast, what exactly do we know about her origins? Let's take a look during this Origin Oracle.
0:00 - Intro to Rouge the Bat
0:48 - Rouge's Debut - Sonic Adventure 2
3:11 - Rouge's Design and Conception
4:33 - Post-Sonic Adventure 2
5:04 - Rouge in Sonic Battle
6:29 - Rouge's Origins in the Archie Comics
8:06 - IDW Comics
8:38 - Sonic X - Excessively Flirty Rouge
10:47 - Please give a like to help a small channel :)
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@gracekim25
Жыл бұрын
I don’t mind learning about Mario too😁
@stoneboi816
Жыл бұрын
Same
@Coopergal33
Жыл бұрын
Neat, looking forward to them. :)
@SmokeTheHorsehog
Жыл бұрын
Well, finally! I've been waiting for that Mario episode to be concluded.
@enzogabriel-ny2yv
Жыл бұрын
can you do sliver like after the Mario one
I feel like Rouge would be the kind of person (bat?) who, if you ask about her past, she'll either give a very vague response, dodge the question, or give completely different details each time she's asked. Not because she has something to hide, but a mix of just not wanting to tell people and she likes messing with others.
@sleepyeevee9255
Жыл бұрын
It also make sense she would be private about her personal details considering she is a spy
@Mew4U
Жыл бұрын
I know some women who are like that. they typically are women who get what they want out of life and handle things like a boss. Love women like that. Another reason why I like Rouge
@Mr.Qwayzar
Жыл бұрын
I killed a man.... with this THUMB!
@LugiThePainDrinker
Жыл бұрын
I feel like you’re the kind of person to make random shit up about a non existent character
@maiastniki
Жыл бұрын
the right person gets the trut
All of Rouge’s SA2 themes where certified bangers
@sofioboros9565
Жыл бұрын
I WISH they would go back to making these style themes for characters again..ESPECIALLY Rouge's
@a-buttonace
Жыл бұрын
Certified Bang Bros
@MashyMusic313
Жыл бұрын
@@a-buttonace kzread.info/dash/bejne/in2AqdCIpty8erQ.html
@TsuriaDragon
2 ай бұрын
Yes yes and YES! 🤩🤩🤩
Sonic Battle also went for the "working for the government to pay off her crimes" angle, except it's even funnier than the comics' execution because the government explicitly gave Rouge diplomatic immunity in exchange for her services. So she's a double agent working for the government, saving the world on the down-low, but she STILL goes around stealing jewels and valuable artefacts. Except this time it's on the government's dollar. Rouge is truly living the life.
It’s kind of a shame that we haven’t gotten as deep of a backstory for Rouge as we have for the other characters, even in Archie. I think in Sonic Chronicles she mentions having a mother but other than that, nothing. I think Rouge a pretty cool character for her fighting abilities and the way her friendship with the dark team is depicted in games like SA2 and the 2006 game. And I hope she appears in the 3rd movie, now that GUN exists in that continuity and she could become an agent. Not to mention now that Knuckles is in the movies it would be cool to see his romance/rivalry with Rouge. Plus I would love to see the internet’s collective freakout upon the reveal of a photorealistic CGI movie design for her. I’m quite surprised how far the games and Sonic X have played up Rouge’s sex appeal. Like I’m sure SEGA is well aware of the kind of FREAKS UP THERE who would drool all over her. Lol
@mediamuncher6982
Жыл бұрын
helluva boss reference nice. but I agree overall.
@anomaly395
Жыл бұрын
Well, who do you think are the ones sexualizing her in the first place? Someone or some group of people up at Sega/Sonic Team are freaks themselves lol.
@evdestroy5304
Жыл бұрын
@@anomaly395 Have you seen her character design? That's the entire point.
@anomaly395
Жыл бұрын
@@evdestroy5304 Yeah, and that’s *my* point lol. It was someone at Sega’s idea to make her sexy in the first place.
@SaiyanGamer95
Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: After SA2, Sega wanted her to have a less provocative outfit (Sonic Heroes), but reverted it back because the new outfit made her look even more provocative.
I do love Shadow and Rouge as a team, they mesh well and in heroes their bond grows even stronger
@JamesGamesTreasureHunting
Жыл бұрын
True! And it grows even stronger in 06!
@michaelfireheart8300
Жыл бұрын
Yup, especially with how she stops him from fighting Omega and even puts a side her want for treasure to help Shadow with his goal of finding Eggman to understand who he is.
@shupasopni
Жыл бұрын
Can't forget Omega!
@TronicSSJ07
Жыл бұрын
Out of Shadouge and Knucouge, I prefer Shadouge as it is more likely to be canon than Knucouge which is a far cry from it.
@shupasopni
Жыл бұрын
@@TronicSSJ07 I would disagree since Knucouge has had actual ship tease, while Shadouge mostly exist because of a strong friendship (unless I've missed something), and chemistry, and I just like that close friendship and chemistry, but that's me.
Oh, not everybody can pull of an origin of rouge the bat without a lot of game cameos, great work!
I actually think (even if it's pretty comical) her being super forward in Sonic X adds to her personality in a good way in my eyes lol She reminds me of Bayonetta in that regard. And I love Bayo!
@emeraldzack910
Жыл бұрын
Same
@moonmagickal3634
Жыл бұрын
Same I love her forward personality lol one reason I love her
@TexasCarWashChannel626
10 ай бұрын
hello charmander could we be friends and do a rp aka roleplay if you do them
@Rammy_Latin
10 ай бұрын
@@TexasCarWashChannel626 No.
@TexasCarWashChannel626
10 ай бұрын
@@Rammy_Latin please I need a friend do you even rp anyway?
Rouge and Knuckles' relationship largely going nowhere is sad, but also sadly not unexpected, given that Sonic Team largely began shelving Knuckles, the original Sonic Rival Character, in favor of Shadow, and of course there has been the recent push to downplay the secondary characters entirely. As someone who always preferred Knuckles to Shadow, it's a pity.
@_Tzer
Жыл бұрын
At least frontiers seems to be picking up slack and the implied dlcs.
@allentheproyt
Жыл бұрын
In my opinion they shouldn't shelve knuckles but more have him as a extra sidekick for when sonic and tails really need him
Cmon now blowing up half the moon was all Eggman. If I recall correctly it was Shadow that set up the dynamite packs not Rouge. She just had to steal the emeralds. Having Rouge (and later shadow) be a government agent strengthens the lore in which it shows the relationship between humans and mobians which I like to see more of. I would like to see a game where human NPCs and anthro NPCs interacting with each other.
@anomaly395
Жыл бұрын
Usually when it comes to media with animal characters and human characters (like the Godzilla movies for instance) I never care about the humans and only want to see the cool animal characters. But with the Sonic series I do wish they would explore the human side of Sonic’s world more and just how they view south islanders (or mobians, whichever they’re called in the games) now that Tails Tube has confirmed that Sonic’s earth is just split into separate continents (one where all the humans live like Station Square and then the other side with places like Green Hill Zone and such). It definitely would be cool to see a game with both human and mobian NPCs living together.
@SirCrusher
Жыл бұрын
@@anomaly395 is it literally split in the middle or they're like twin dimensions that exist together?
@anomaly395
Жыл бұрын
@@SirCrusher No I mean like they live on the same planet, just different continents.
I wonder what rouge’s childhood would have been like
@michaelfireheart8300
Жыл бұрын
I'd bet she was trained by her father how to fight, while her mother got her into stealing, or it might even be the other way around.
@sodapopski
Жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought she grew up really poor and that’s what got her into thievery, treasure hunting, and taking up shady jobs to get her way. This idea could’ve also contributed to her vanity, selfishness, and materialism, not wanting to look back on her life in poverty Honestly Rouge not having a backstory or implied to have one but only revealing hints of it really adds to her allure and mystery, like it’s up to the audience interpretation on why she is the way she is now
@LannyLeArtist
Жыл бұрын
@@sodapopski interesting
(At 10:25) Kinda makes me wonder: is Rouge actually just sexually manipulating everyone's emotions or she actually is a hard to get bisexual?
@nithpro1385
Жыл бұрын
💀💀💀💀 its obvi the first one
@Topdoggie7
Жыл бұрын
Hard to get bisexual is hilarious.
@ooooooouououo
Жыл бұрын
I mean, why not both?
Rouge and Catwoman would be really good friends
@ezragavrila3281
6 ай бұрын
Yes! So would be Knuckles and Batman because both Rouge and Catwoman would crawl underneath their lovers/rivals' skins from time to time, imagine how awesome this would be if there was a crossover between both groups of characters
10:17 Yo wtf, I never knew about this lmao. Damn, the sub for Sonic X was wild. First Sonic saying “Shit”, that one frame of blood, the S&M thing, and now this. Never would of thought s*x would be referenced in the Sonic franchise. How was this show not TV-14? XD
@TheMentok
Жыл бұрын
It’s a different experience in Japanese 😂
@taeandtheosilver-con2162
Жыл бұрын
She’s down bad. Even knuckles and shadow knows that about her 😂😂😂
@arisboba
Жыл бұрын
Typical Japan
@CoralCopperHead
Жыл бұрын
The west vilifies sex (which is required for our species to continue existing) but glorifies violence (which does nothing but cause harm and do permanent damage to the species.) If that sounds backwards, don't worry -- it is.
@SkeithLangley
Жыл бұрын
The show was released in America on a Saturday morning segment ov WB called 4-kidz. They were notorious for Americanizing anime and censorship. Glad we ended that era.
Rouge is literally the Ada Wong of the Sonic universe, secret agent femme fatale. In it for herself but with a heart of gold.
Cool, sexy, fun and a good heart. Also her personal theme songs consistently some of, if not the best songs in any games she appears in
I love this and the intro! Hahaha Also, maybe nails is too close to tails and they didn’t wanna confuse folks? Who knows. But Nails would’ve been cool.
Lol the intro! I too also love seeing character concept art, it's always interesting seeing the designing process. Her final design kinda reminds me of a "kid friendly" Jun Fudo from the Devil Lady anime/manga haha. Keep up the great work
@TheMentok
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I always think Sonic Team take liberties from classic anime/manga without blatantly making it obvious. I can definitely see some influence from. Jun Fudo even if they don’t explicitly say it 😅
Jesus Christ, the dub for sonic X may not be optimal but at least I could show I child it with no issue- sub pulled no punches
I'm pretty surprised that there is little development history behind Rouge, unlike almost every other character before her. I would have been interested in what the idea was behind her inclusion, beyond the stuff we know already from SA2. And not to mention, why she got the somewhat sexualized design that she became infamous for. I mean, we got characters with similar proportions to her prior to her inception, such as Sally Acorn in SatAM and the Archie comics and Tiara Boobowski in the forever scrapped Sonic X-Treme. But it was Rouge that finally got into the games, so I'm curious.
@lycandoodle
Жыл бұрын
The World may never know...
@nightlydata2181
Жыл бұрын
cus knuckles is shy to women from bein alone. so a sexy good lookin & very sly/forward woman would give him so much tension in his journey in SA2. That's jus 1 aspect to help contrast her as a rival to knucks in SA2 similar to Eggman/tails or ofc Sonic/shadow
@HypercomboProduction
Жыл бұрын
@@nightlydata2181 well now there is a canon lore that Sticks exsists on Angel Island. Not doubting that Knuckles can't handle Rouge's charm and straight forwardness, but it would explain why Knuckles can handle Amy.
@nightlydata2181
Жыл бұрын
@@HypercomboProduction wut R u talkin bout where was this confirmed? That'd make NO SENSE to retcon AT ALL.
@HypercomboProduction
Жыл бұрын
@@nightlydata2181 Ian Flynn. He apparently has been trying to get Sticks in the modern Sonic stories. He said he has told Sega on making her a native on Angel Island with the logic that she is really good at hiding. Sega said no to that idea but if Surge and Starline are anything to go off on, he is cooking a way to get Sticks on Angel Island somehow.
It feels like she would be Knuckle’s rival and female rival would be Blaze and same for her. Anyone agree? Lol
@Sonicmid
Жыл бұрын
that's an interesting idea
@AdamMerlin
Жыл бұрын
That sentence made zero sense
@jourdanfarquharson4697
Жыл бұрын
Blaze is techically the sonic of her universe but haslifestyle of knuckles
@michaelfireheart8300
Жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but wouldn't it make more sense for Amy to be her rival? I mean they embody the opposite sides of femininity, both are hard hitting women who'll knock you out if you cross them, and they also are close to their respective hedgehogs. The issue is that Amy had so little to do in SA 2, that they really didn't have any potential rivalry, especially when they're the only girls on each side, making it a pretty big missed opportunity.
@JonyPlayz1
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelfireheart8300 Fair enough in some ways I guess lol
I forgot how Rouge the Bat was terrible towards others in the sonic the hedgehog Archie comics.
I hope they have a live action version of her in Sonic 3.
@Tanjiro_kamado1800
Жыл бұрын
Yeah they should introduce her in the upcoming Knuckles show with a proper back story. Just like other characters in movie.
@ezragavrila3281
6 ай бұрын
Me too!
Of course you had to start the video with that clip, lol
Let's not forget she was supposed to be a spider mobian as a picture of her can be found in Adventure 1 in the burger shop.
8:47 cant forget about how eggman near the end of sonic x tells rouge that shes got a nice set of honkers 😂😂
Ah yes, one of my favorite Sonic characters. Awesome job, my guy! #BringBackRougeTheBatDominatrixOutfit
so glad you mentioned sonic battle
Rouge was literally my first childhood crush. I would love for her to become more fleshed out character instead of just being a background one. I think they could make a whole cartoon about her just stealing stuff and breaking into places.
This is my head canon for Rouge Origins. Someone working at Sega in Japan saw that the American Sonic Animated Series includes a Furry Bait Character and said "Hey lets One Up the Americans"
@alexgomez6723
Жыл бұрын
Aren’t they all furry bait?
Rouge is pretty cool 😁
Im so glad i have Sonic Adventure 2 10th anniversary edition birthday pack for Dreamcast, i really love this character
I’m heavily considering rewatching sonic x in Japanese now 😂
@TheMentok
Жыл бұрын
It’s a whole other experience
@HenshinFanatic
Жыл бұрын
It's far better than the 4Kids version, but that's not saying much.
@LannyLeArtist
Жыл бұрын
@@HenshinFanatic LOL
I feel that Sonic X fills in the gaps for all the major plot holes in SA2 even if the show itself isn't canon. Sonic being intentionally framed to coverup Shadow's existence... Rouge stealing the Master Emerald in order to barter onto Eggman's team...
Gerald robotnik remind me of professor oak
I actually laughed at “overshadowed.”
I love your videos!!
I hope this isn't random but the art style in 7:28 is really cool, does anybody know who made this
Finally, some good Rouge content.
Let's hope she is in the 3rd movie.
10:45 I’m surprised nobody is talking about this particular shot. I mean, its very suggestive how she’s holding the chaos emeralds “there”
sega: ok guys, we need a new character, do y'all have any ideas? sega employee: big titty bat mommy sega: *what?*
I do love the enemies to lovers for rouge and knuckles. And the netflix show showcases their bond
Omfg great video but you will forever be in my top 3 channel's specifically for the Eurotrip snip lol
Man, I missed out on the real Sonic X Rougue! I watched the 4Kids! dub as a kid so lots of censorship. Though it's probably for the best. I don't think my very religious parents would have let me keep watching Sonic if they heard a bat woman ask an echidna if he's good in bed lmao.
something i feel like was missing with Archie Rouge was her having a connection to the Yagyu Clan, a ninja clan of Mobian Bats i mean Espio is the son of the leader of the Shinobi Clan, a ninja clan of Mobian Chameleons and the 2 clans share a connection
She remind me of Jessie from pokemon
Is it wrong if I had a crush on Rouge as a kid? Gosh darn you Sega!
Love this character & hope they use her more, without reducing the size of her "charms"
@wahidpawana424
Жыл бұрын
You mean her one polygon.
@hexostatus4658
Жыл бұрын
You mean her bosom?
Believe me when I say this, Rouge has DEFINETLY improved in Sonic Prime on Netflix, no longer do I see her as a Rule 34 Icon, but more like a fully fledged character who can be a little fun sometimes.
@CoralCopperHead
Жыл бұрын
...She was already an interesting character cloaked in mystery though?
@oscarljungberg8821
Жыл бұрын
@@CoralCopperHead Eeeeh... Too flirty, though.
Without Rouge, Shadow and Omega would either get nothing done or destroy a city within minutes. Depends on how angsty Shadow feels that day (Omega is always down for robo-genocide, and possibly regular murder.) Rouge isn't necessarily a better person, but she sure is easier to work with.
You know the video is going to be a banger when there's 169 likes
Love your videos
@TheMentok
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
I know this video is more about the origin inside the plot, it would be great who created her, draw & write.
Great video. Love and will always love sonic 🩵💙😊
If s.a.2 gets a remake Jessica Dicicco would be a good voice for her! And maybe if they add team hooligan into modern games, we'd see competitive or outclassed and vulnerable side to her personality wich is rare for Sonic characters.
Not saying that “oh Sonic is too kid friendly” or smth like that, but it seems perfectly in character for Rouge to make those jokes in the JP version of Sonic X
I like Rouge the Bat and she is one of my favourite sonic characters / female
Brilliant intro.
I gravitate more twords the concept design Nails, heck she is even my pfp!😅
*Ada Wong Fursona*
Not a furry but Rouge can get it
I wasn't expecting that opening (but I'm not upset).
I've only ever seen the 4kids dub of Sonic X, so I missed out on alot of the dirty adult jokes lol. "I guess you're into S&M" was replaced with "You're pretty tough for an old lady" in the US dub, so sad
Rouge The Bat easily comes off like if Amy wasn't chasing Sonic and actually embraced her body as well as her own goals. I mean they easily could've been rivals in SA 2, if they actually did more with Amy, since they're both hard hitting women and embody different sides of femininity, but alas that never happened as Amy was just there in SA 2. Though I think it's obvious why Rouge is obsessed with jewels and Knuckles, cause he has family jewels that she wants at night time.
@OSEAN64
Жыл бұрын
Oh my days
0:03 this had me dying because knuckles is my favorite character and I can relate to him sooo much 🤣
Lol all of Rouge’s music sounds sexy.
Plot twist: Rouge is her codename. Her name is probably some Plain-Jane name like... well, Jane.
Rouge the Bat. Suspicion . Because maybe care for her mother. What about that 1996? Year Less known movoe with Sonic Tails , The Owl scientist , the girl with tail ?,glue bot , and the meme introduction of metal Sonic
8:26 i love that face lmao
Sonic X's Rouge is the most perfect incarnation of the character
I would be pretty disappointed if she's not in Sonic movie 3 she's plays a big part in Shafow story
Does anyone know the Sonic X episode where Rouge says those things?
They gave Rouge a WHAT outfit!?😳🤯🤯
@mangareader7474
Жыл бұрын
Domimatrix
What is the animation at 0:15 & 4:41? 🤔
Cream the Rabbit. Nail the Bat.
Fun fact about all the sonic lore sega said .... Everything is Canon so even the Archie Comic
I always thought rouge was an orphan like Catwoman so she got a tasting for the high life
I’m getting the feeling that sonic and the Archie comics gave the furries the ground work they needed to spread out.
😆 That was a good use of a Bootsy meme
Man, I don’t remember those lines when I watched Sonic X in Japanese with english subs. Either because I was 14 and didn’t understand those lines or it was a different translation.
Wife Bat!
Yeah If She's A Treasure Hunter Was Very Similar To Captain Syrup From Wario Land And Tron Bonne From Mega Man. But Rouge And Tron Bonne They Are The Treasure Hunter Anti-Heroines And They Became Former Enemy Toward The Protagonists
Bruh shadows voice when he rouge the bat was so frickin INACCURATE
2:37 shadouge moment
It's possible that rouge was forced to work for Gun to pay for her crimes
Bruh the opening meme lol
that also happend in sonic x
Please do Cream the Rabbit. Miss her
Let's be real, yall. She's the sex appeal of the series... ...and that what I like😎
@CSS-Tails_Forever
Жыл бұрын
👍
6:19 WHAT-
Even If Was Daisy From Mario Franchise But She's Not An Anti-Heroine And She Was The Best Friend Of Peach And We're Rivalries, But Rouge Was The Rival To Amy And Knuckles. If Daisy Was An Antagonist Just Like Mira Fermin From Bakugan Battle Brawlers But She's Not Evil. If Rouge Was The Main Villainess To Become Enemy Toward Their Friends Was Similar Lusamine From Pokemon Sun And Moon. If Rouge The Bat Was An Anti-Heroine Or Villain. Even Marine The Raccoon Was The Counterpart To Daisy
2:09 true. it's the job of the military to do that
Well the next Sonic movie features Shadow so we better get Rouge with all her “reasons” on the big screen.
Topaz and Rouge are definitely engaged.
dont gun also have rouge work for them to make up for her crimes in sonic x
make a video on jet
hey
@chasethemaster3440
Жыл бұрын
hey
I miss her 4Kids VA the new one is good but doesn’t sound the same.
So you’re not going to elaborate on 4:25 😂😂