The Shadow of the Thalidomide Tragedy | Retro Report | The New York Times

In the 1950s, thalidomide cut a wide swath of destruction across the world, leaving behind thousands of deformed infants, but that was only the beginning of the story.
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  • @desertdweller4316
    @desertdweller43162 жыл бұрын

    I was born 1961. My mother, a Registered Nurse, was bleeding and close to miscarrying me. Her doctor gave her a choice....bed rest or "a new drug called Thalidomide". Thank God she chose bed rest.

  • @toji3580

    @toji3580

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh thank god.

  • @spoon5255

    @spoon5255

    2 жыл бұрын

    no thank your mother

  • @hobojoe4910

    @hobojoe4910

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was such a coin flip you dodged there

  • @oatmeal8524

    @oatmeal8524

    2 жыл бұрын

    @caramellove Shut up

  • @hiffahyphae6707

    @hiffahyphae6707

    2 жыл бұрын

    @caramellove why are they triggered atheists?

  • @spencerdunn6933
    @spencerdunn69332 жыл бұрын

    I can't imagine having your kid being born deformed and then the company responsible saying it's from a botched home abortion.

  • @julianewman4722

    @julianewman4722

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s unreal.

  • @shewolfee4247

    @shewolfee4247

    2 жыл бұрын

    But plandemic vax is worse

  • @whitealliance9540

    @whitealliance9540

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shewolfee4247 plandemic vax will clean the earth. Hail the dark cure. Amen kzread.info/dash/bejne/c2V4l6SYoancYaw.html

  • @thegroi

    @thegroi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shewolfee4247 delusional

  • @liviwaslost

    @liviwaslost

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shewolfee4247 you are very delusional.

  • @happyvocal
    @happyvocal2 жыл бұрын

    Props to Dr. Kelsey for standing her ground. This was also in a culture where women were meant to defer to men. She was a tough lady who didn't take any BS, that's for sure.

  • @juchou2983

    @juchou2983

    Жыл бұрын

    If it was happening now, people would call her anti-science..

  • @divadee8090

    @divadee8090

    Жыл бұрын

    If this had been happening now, she would be Blocked, Canceled and Banned!

  • @brojakmate9872

    @brojakmate9872

    Жыл бұрын

    If it were happened now they would have called it a women moment

  • @BeckBeckGo

    @BeckBeckGo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@juchou2983 not really. There are drug recalls all the time.

  • @juchou2983

    @juchou2983

    Жыл бұрын

    @@BeckBeckGo but there will be no cov vax recall ever, I guarantee you that..

  • @sleepers123
    @sleepers123 Жыл бұрын

    I had a best friend growing up who was also affected by this drug. Her name is Iris. She was in an electric wheelchair and had tiny arms and legs which I found boundlessly interresting and also very funny. She always wanted me to drag her out of the chair and into the sandbox. So I did. And when she was done playing, I would sit in front of her chair so she could climb on my back and I could get her back in her chair. She wasn't really allowed out of her chair but her mother knew due to all the sand in her pants...I missed her when she moved away. She was so funny and was like a ray of sunshine. I never saw her cry or be upset or even down. I loved her and she was my friend. Iris, if you're out there, your friend misses you!! Hope you are living your best life!!

  • @christalcavanaugh

    @christalcavanaugh

    8 ай бұрын

    what a lovely depiction of the innocence and purity of childhood!

  • @belughlegosi

    @belughlegosi

    5 ай бұрын

    Lying

  • @galemusgrove4589

    @galemusgrove4589

    5 ай бұрын

    Wouldn't it be great if Iris saw this!😊

  • @JosedeJezeus

    @JosedeJezeus

    4 ай бұрын

    What a beautiful tribute yo your friend! Thank you for sharing! 💗💗💗

  • @triciac1019

    @triciac1019

    3 ай бұрын

    I just love your story!

  • @jen-dx7io
    @jen-dx7io5 жыл бұрын

    My grandmother took Thalidomide during her pregnancy, she got my dad but he was born with a deformed thumb and also deaf. He met my deaf mother though, who is also deaf because of Thalidomide. Today they’re in a group for people that got affected by Thalidomide and it’s like a big family!

  • @user-sp3yu1ft6y

    @user-sp3yu1ft6y

    5 жыл бұрын

    aww ! im sorry for what happened to your parents but its cute ! i wish for you happiness

  • @kookie5421

    @kookie5421

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awww that’s sweet that they could find people who understand and relate to them and become one big family

  • @gory6543

    @gory6543

    5 жыл бұрын

    i'm not trying to be mean i'm just kinda curious.How do u live with deaf parents?Like do u do sign language?

  • @zoeyzolber840

    @zoeyzolber840

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's actually so cute the heck

  • @pislarua1180

    @pislarua1180

    5 жыл бұрын

    💜💜💜Fighting 💜💜💜

  • @nuckinfuts7610
    @nuckinfuts76106 жыл бұрын

    "Greed and stupidity will end humanity sooner than we expect." - S. Hawking

  • @Konsti1905

    @Konsti1905

    5 жыл бұрын

    He couldn't have said it better.

  • @ninjadoge_playzlol4349

    @ninjadoge_playzlol4349

    5 жыл бұрын

    IM CRYING, SO TRUE😭😭😭😢😢😢REST IN SPAGHETTI, NEVER FORGETTI

  • @DB-jf2dw

    @DB-jf2dw

    5 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't you have spelled his name correctly at least

  • @aproxamillionwasps474

    @aproxamillionwasps474

    5 жыл бұрын

    Easy to sound smart when you use other people’s words, isn’t it?

  • @surendrapratap8233

    @surendrapratap8233

    5 жыл бұрын

    An example of the chronic capitalism

  • @abdobouchareb6791
    @abdobouchareb6791 Жыл бұрын

    The Doctor who discovered and fought against this terrifying drug has literally saved the whole world, not just Americans, she must be awarded and taken care of really well, i can't thank you enough ma'am.

  • @throbbinwoodofcoxley6830

    @throbbinwoodofcoxley6830

    Жыл бұрын

    “Literally saved the whole world”?!? Don’t you think that’s highly hyperbolic?

  • @Giloaodpjdjwlhjao

    @Giloaodpjdjwlhjao

    Жыл бұрын

    @Peter Jordan did you watch the video? It was far worse of a problem in countries that aren’t the US

  • @niccolodeparmapanini2036

    @niccolodeparmapanini2036

    Жыл бұрын

    Goes to show the safety nets we rely on can be bought out with money. The best thing to do is avoid all drugs even the FDA approves. There may be somethings out there that cause bad side effects which are being covered up by pharmaceutical greed

  • @wanyekest6969

    @wanyekest6969

    Жыл бұрын

    @@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 Can you not?

  • @lolunicornsaj8907

    @lolunicornsaj8907

    Жыл бұрын

    @@throbbinwoodofcoxley6830 Read the room.

  • @alexisy7056
    @alexisy7056 Жыл бұрын

    The woman speaking as a thalidomide survivor is so eloquent and graceful when speaking on the topic despite suffering from it first hand. How inspiring

  • @johnnyjoestar7143

    @johnnyjoestar7143

    Жыл бұрын

    @NightTimeLounge dude ...

  • @angelicpapillon

    @angelicpapillon

    Жыл бұрын

    @@johnnyjoestar7143 NightimeLounge was just following in the vein of inappropriate condescension as OP

  • @kaderen8461

    @kaderen8461

    11 ай бұрын

    @@nighttimelounge2181dude not now

  • @wafflemation6887

    @wafflemation6887

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kaderen8461 what did he say

  • @kaderen8461

    @kaderen8461

    3 ай бұрын

    @@wafflemation6887 i have no clue i forgot

  • @legerdemain444
    @legerdemain4442 жыл бұрын

    The anger shouldn't be directed at the drug itself, the drug is just an unthinking object. The anger needs to be at the then lack at testing and reluctance to admit fault

  • @NietzscheanMan

    @NietzscheanMan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, imagine giving untested drugs to pregnant women in 2021. Right?

  • @mon69day

    @mon69day

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just pharmaceutical companies.. there’s a reason why they don’t tell u about the benefits of natural substances instead of chemicals

  • @aggelikip.664

    @aggelikip.664

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NietzscheanMan Yes covid vaccines

  • @Zizzyyzz

    @Zizzyyzz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NietzscheanMan I caught what you dropped down. 👍🏽

  • @pyr8878

    @pyr8878

    2 жыл бұрын

    'Lack of testing and reluctance to admit fault', my how some sayings reverberate through time! Sure sounds hauntingly familiar, now doesn't it? d>_0b -when will we learn from our mistakes?, it shouldn't be a matter of time when its a matter of life...dx_xb

  • @SerpentHermet
    @SerpentHermet2 жыл бұрын

    "Thalidomide restricts blood flow." This alone explains the birth defects.

  • @OrdinaryEXP

    @OrdinaryEXP

    2 жыл бұрын

    One man's meat is another man's poison.

  • @AFineLineA

    @AFineLineA

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agreed!!!

  • @lyingdogfaceponysoldier6976

    @lyingdogfaceponysoldier6976

    2 жыл бұрын

    Covid vaccine

  • @NORAMA01

    @NORAMA01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lyingdogfaceponysoldier6976 covid vaccine is good for you

  • @M4_Sherman587

    @M4_Sherman587

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lyingdogfaceponysoldier6976 covid vaccine helps people

  • @YaelZarah._
    @YaelZarah._ Жыл бұрын

    My dad is a Thalidomide baby. My grandma took the drug when pregnant and my dad has club feet. Took many operations to kind of fix it. Still in a lot of pain daily. He is my role model in the way he sees life and you never hear him complain about anything

  • @shebevgdyehehehg6219

    @shebevgdyehehehg6219

    Жыл бұрын

    Not to be rude or offensive but does he have any other deformities?

  • @YaelZarah._

    @YaelZarah._

    Жыл бұрын

    @@shebevgdyehehehg6219 haha thats no problem! No, only his feet and calves

  • @rosameryrojas-delcerro1059

    @rosameryrojas-delcerro1059

    4 ай бұрын

    Club feet are not always related to Thalidomide. My father also has club feet and my granny never took Thalidomide, my dad was born before Thalidomide was distributed, even in Germany. No one in the family had ever been to Germany. He had extensive surgery at age 22, including a severed Achilles tendon resulting in a fused ankle. Now retired, the arthritis in his feet is terrible.

  • @ATexasPerson101

    @ATexasPerson101

    Ай бұрын

    Messed up my dads teeth real bad, he’s also an alcoholic 🤷‍♀️ his mom was prescribed it due to morning sickness

  • @Iconicmulcheater

    @Iconicmulcheater

    10 күн бұрын

    @@rosameryrojas-delcerro1059yes but it probably is in this case

  • @faithcastillo9597
    @faithcastillo9597 Жыл бұрын

    My mom was given a prescription for thalidomide when she was pregnant with me back in 1959. She chose not to take it. For that decision I am eternally grateful. It's tragic what happened, and even more so that babies are still being born with thalidomide birth defects.

  • @jurgenr.4062

    @jurgenr.4062

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly the same with me as a man. I was born at the end of 1959 and I'm more than glad that my mother refused taking the drug.

  • @pixieloco
    @pixieloco2 жыл бұрын

    when my mom was pregnant, the doctor wanted to prescribe this to her. she heard some rumors about the deformities, and she said: No way! I saw many kids of my age with "missing" limbs.

  • @sxntluarent999

    @sxntluarent999

    2 жыл бұрын

    i like that cat in your profile picture

  • @marilynwillett804

    @marilynwillett804

    2 жыл бұрын

    many kids with missing limbs, where did you live Chernobyl?

  • @trisharivers5588

    @trisharivers5588

    2 жыл бұрын

    When my mom was pregnant in 1960 and was having bad morning sickness she asked our doctor for thalidomide and he said absolutely not. Thank God

  • @annbrannigan3958

    @annbrannigan3958

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was also offered Thalidomide for morning sickness. I said no.

  • @1rahmaan

    @1rahmaan

    2 жыл бұрын

    When my Mom was expecting me her doctor gave her Thalidomide. She took a few pills, then heard the stories and threw them away. She was distraught during the whole pregnancy. Fortunately it hadn't affected me. When I became aware of that fact I fell to my knees in gratitude that I am whole.

  • @abbiecarmichael3346
    @abbiecarmichael33462 жыл бұрын

    “They don’t have a right to be shocked. The shock doesn’t belong to them.” Perfectly said

  • @snooprocker

    @snooprocker

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eh

  • @Angry.General1461

    @Angry.General1461

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Jeremiah Carlson Can you imagine pregnant mothers who took the "covid vaccine" their children comes out like this?

  • @pu55yeatermulletl0ver5

    @pu55yeatermulletl0ver5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Angry.General1461 it’s entirely possible that it could have no effect. in fact, it’s probably more possible that the vaccine has no effect on the infant. science has progressed a lot more since thalidomide was released. we know more about drugs and chemicals and what they do to pregnant women. i’m not saying it will 100% not harm children but i hope it helps you sleep at night to know that there’s a big chance the children of vaccinated mothers will probably be alright.

  • @nicholasbstone

    @nicholasbstone

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pu55yeatermulletl0ver5 The development of chemicals, their testing, restrictions, etc and the progress that has been made in those fields are a completely different discussion than that of vaccines. Especially the Covid "vaccine" which is not even a vaccine by the traditional definition or pharmacology. A person of your intelligence would do well to research these topics before forming any set opinions as you would likely be able to understand the implications from a more objective point of view. An aptitude that sadly, eludes most.

  • @pu55yeatermulletl0ver5

    @pu55yeatermulletl0ver5

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nicholasbstone you still haven’t disproved that the vaccine won’t harm pregnant mothers or their children, therefore my statement that the vaccine could be fine for pregnant women and children is still correct. The thought that the vaccine could be fine for those who have gotten it eases peoples minds and makes them more comfortable in the world. There is no harm in that.

  • @jamesrichardson1455
    @jamesrichardson1455 Жыл бұрын

    My oldest daughter was treated with this drug to slow the growth of a brain stem tumor....I belive it gave us 10 months that we wouldn't have had, had she not taken it. She passed away 11 months after diagnosis, but remained alert, social and carried out her last months as best a teenager with cancer could.

  • @kay0bae

    @kay0bae

    8 ай бұрын

    That's amazing, glad you had more time with her ❤️. But as well, I'm sorry for your loss...

  • @d.n.8919

    @d.n.8919

    4 ай бұрын

    Yes, many drugs are fine to use as long as you aren’t pregnant. Really any drug is a risk when you’re pregnant.

  • @crisptomato9495
    @crisptomato9495 Жыл бұрын

    My grandmother was prescribed thalidomide for two of her eight pregnancies. She had a gut feeling and decided against taking it both times. She and my grandfather were dairy farmers living paycheque to paycheque at the time and as blunt as it sounds they needed kids as farmhands. It’s a little spooky to wonder how they would have dealt with my uncles being born severely disabled.

  • @twylabobette2012
    @twylabobette20126 жыл бұрын

    My grandmother was offered Thalidomide for morning sickness when pregnant with my mother. Thank goodness she said no

  • @twylabobette2012

    @twylabobette2012

    6 жыл бұрын

    Cmgamer I know, it's a scary thought. I probably wouldn't exist!

  • @deemariedubois4916

    @deemariedubois4916

    6 жыл бұрын

    Millie when in 1974 I became pregnant as a teen, my morning sickness lasted all day and night. My OB said it was the worse case he had ever seen. I was admitted to the hospital countless times for dehydration and would only allow IV fluids, saline solution, refusing to take anything else after seeing pictures of all the poor babes born in the early sixties to moms just treating their morning sickness. I was offered so many different things even Valium to stop my constant barfing. The pressure put on me by ER doctors, many OBs was extreme. They told me I was putting my baby at risk as I lost more weight instead of gaining but a picture would enter my mind of a baby born without arms and legs so I held firm. After gaining only 16 pounds, I delivered a healthy 7 lb 6 1/2 oz baby boy. With my subsequent pregnancies I stuck to my own rule, NO MEDICATIONS DURING MY PREGNANCY. Thalidomide taught me my baby's health came before me. This was a time that I knew women who still drank and smoked during their pregnancies. SMH.

  • @goodra999

    @goodra999

    6 жыл бұрын

    Deemaree Dubois was Valium like thalidomide? if you took thalidomide imagine how your baby would look. I think that would be nightmare fuel of missing limbs syndrome

  • @janedoex8345

    @janedoex8345

    6 жыл бұрын

    LukeTrinton Valium is a Benzosiazepine still used in emergency medicine and psychiatry.It' s very beneficial in some cases but it's addictive, so taking it once for example for a panic attack or after a serious trauma mostly won't affect the baby, but taking it frequently would get mother and child addicted, so the baby would suffer withdrawal after birth. Benzosiazepines calm you down, so withdrawals can include high blood pressure, anxiety, a increased heart rate , nausea, diarrhea , seizures etc. etc.

  • @Wolskyyy

    @Wolskyyy

    6 жыл бұрын

    Millie yeah it’s scary how life can work like that

  • @DansLikeaRockstar
    @DansLikeaRockstar2 жыл бұрын

    Safe for pregnant women? How could they ever claim that? Its insane how they lie to people so easily

  • @jaylaarmani3697

    @jaylaarmani3697

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s the pharmaceutical industry in a nutshell

  • @nicholasbstone

    @nicholasbstone

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alkira47 That's a good point! They say it's safe for the pregnant woman, not for the baby!

  • @KB-zh4dx

    @KB-zh4dx

    2 жыл бұрын

    They claim that with the covid vaccines. But several women have lost their babies after receiving it. Most in the first trimester. But at least 1 was in the 3rd

  • @getoutofyourmomsbasement

    @getoutofyourmomsbasement

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just like they are doing for the covid vaccine... with almost zero research and no long term research whatsoever!

  • @nekroneschwartz2013

    @nekroneschwartz2013

    2 жыл бұрын

    What's even worse than the pharmaceutical companies are the government agencies that approve the drugs

  • @DanielKRui
    @DanielKRui Жыл бұрын

    9:10 "We are nervous, we are ... of course frightened -- dismayed. But we realize that this is not a perfect world". What a profound, brave and concise statement

  • @ryninabin3518
    @ryninabin3518 Жыл бұрын

    My grandma (a registered nurse) was prescribed thalidomide for morning sickness, but refused to take it because it was too new to see what the side effects would be. Best choice she ever made!

  • @deborahwhitney9427

    @deborahwhitney9427

    Жыл бұрын

    My mum had terrible morning sickness when she was pregnant with me. She asked her doctor at the time if she could have thalidomide and he refused to give it her. 8m so glad he did b3cause I might have ended up just like those poor ch8ldren.

  • @jhamps4806
    @jhamps48062 жыл бұрын

    My Mum was offered this drug when she was pregnant with my sister, luckily she refused. My Mum still has nightmares when she thinks of it.

  • @poop-ny1je

    @poop-ny1je

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank God she refused it !!!

  • @jhamps4806

    @jhamps4806

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@poop-ny1je oh god yes…!!! When she talks about it you can tell it still affects her.

  • @annaleighatiyeh4070

    @annaleighatiyeh4070

    2 жыл бұрын

    J, how long ago was it offered? I’m curious.

  • @jhamps4806

    @jhamps4806

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@annaleighatiyeh4070 my sister was born in 1962, my Mum was offered it in late 1961. It all came out a few weeks after she was offered it.

  • @gracejacobs1954

    @gracejacobs1954

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nazi conspiracy?

  • @simplywonderful449
    @simplywonderful4492 жыл бұрын

    I dated a girl in high school whose mother had taken thalidomide, and had birth defects to her hands. She overcame her disabilities by learning to play one of the most difficult instruments in the orchestra, and never let her differences affect her. I admire her for that, and leading a normal life, and despite some teasing from other kids she kept her head up and is still a wonderful gal.

  • @drmatacic

    @drmatacic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Are you the girl your talking about?

  • @melik3063

    @melik3063

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude who asked like cool bro u kno a girl

  • @gabrielam.7681

    @gabrielam.7681

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@melik3063 shouldn't you be in KZread Kids?

  • @melik3063

    @melik3063

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gabrielam.7681 U sound 10 years old too the comment he made is just unnecessary and cringey i just didnt enjoy reading it at all who asked keep it to urself

  • @lawhook3411

    @lawhook3411

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@melik3063 How does she sound like a 10 year old? Shouldn't you be the one to keep it to yourself since your comment is unrelated to the topic at all.

  • @hannahlykins5779
    @hannahlykins5779 Жыл бұрын

    My dad had this during cancer treatment and I remember the body had pictures of these baby’s. And my parents told us all about how dangerous the med is. They had to provide information about how they would not have any children

  • @danb4282
    @danb42825 жыл бұрын

    That doctor undoubtedly helped stop millions of new cases of deformities. It must have been incredibly hard to stand up to such a massive company. I’m horrified that I’ve never heard of her before.

  • @rebeccakagura9064

    @rebeccakagura9064

    5 жыл бұрын

    they should make a movie abt her

  • @sunshineskylar7458

    @sunshineskylar7458

    5 жыл бұрын

    If you haven’t heard of it before, you should check out the story of the radium girls. Similar to this but earlier and so so interesting and tragic.

  • @omalone1169

    @omalone1169

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why did people take this to begin with

  • @thatjayne

    @thatjayne

    4 жыл бұрын

    omalone11 it was Rxd for morning sickness l

  • @kristenm3261

    @kristenm3261

    4 жыл бұрын

    she sounds like she was a badass; definitely someone I'd like to be like myself

  • @AnnaMaria-uy3wp
    @AnnaMaria-uy3wp2 жыл бұрын

    My mother was given a prescription for this drug when pregnant with me...she told me that she didn't have the funds to get it filled. I am thankful for that. Thank you Giselle for sharing your story with us.

  • @bluecollardadventures2338

    @bluecollardadventures2338

    2 жыл бұрын

    Praise God, so scary

  • @kosakionodera1244

    @kosakionodera1244

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank god she refused it.

  • @douglasparkinson4123

    @douglasparkinson4123

    2 жыл бұрын

    there it is. there it is. the one time the american healthcare system worked well

  • @blucat4

    @blucat4

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, talk about by the grace of god, you are luuucky!!

  • @apapz3245

    @apapz3245

    2 жыл бұрын

    It probably was expensive then woulda cost her an arm and a leg

  • @notpeachykeen6823
    @notpeachykeen6823 Жыл бұрын

    My mother was a child when this was happening. She knew a girl deformed by thalidomide living on the same street as her. We were watching the show 'Call the Midwife' which basically depicts the kind of life my mother had in the 50's and 60's London. The episode where the words "Distaval" and "thalidomide" were spoken, she instantly remembered.

  • @cherylpurdue888
    @cherylpurdue8887 ай бұрын

    This is a heart breaking story,so many children suffered,no amount of money is going to give back what they have lost😢🙏🏻

  • @stardoogalaxie9314
    @stardoogalaxie93146 жыл бұрын

    Theres a distinct sort of horror seeing those babies born without arms or legs. The irresponsibility of this company was just atrocious.

  • @nnovatakaren5515

    @nnovatakaren5515

    6 жыл бұрын

    Money is the boss

  • @NotAGoodUsername360

    @NotAGoodUsername360

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the first victims came from the company itself. They really did think they had developed the next ibuprofen. Spending 50 years being told by lawyers to deny everything to not get stripped of everything they own... I don't think anyone walked out of this mess unscarred.

  • @charlieq6083

    @charlieq6083

    6 жыл бұрын

    It is horror_i would die if my child had that

  • @annettemorrison7737

    @annettemorrison7737

    6 жыл бұрын

    The pharmaceutical industry in general is completely atrocious.

  • @datapod

    @datapod

    5 жыл бұрын

    Money is flesh

  • @goldiedover9294
    @goldiedover92943 жыл бұрын

    My mom was prescribed this when she was pregnant with me, but she figured if it worked that good it couldn’t be safe. She refused to take it , thank God.

  • @N0URii

    @N0URii

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow

  • @em945

    @em945

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@N0URii exactly...wow!

  • @mccrea_nyc_1999

    @mccrea_nyc_1999

    2 жыл бұрын

    That almost sounds like irony... Sad that if a medicine works really well it could be too good to be true, because it could create an even bigger problem.

  • @edwardhisse2687

    @edwardhisse2687

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mccrea_nyc_1999 But it makes perfect sence in everyday life thought! You always know that if there's an ad that promises you to become rich/gorgeous/feeling like ur 20 years younger it's a scam. If somehing is brilliantly good noone will just sell it to people affordably, they will keep it for the rich.

  • @av2319

    @av2319

    2 жыл бұрын

    People back then were naive. But ur mom is really clever..good for u.😊

  • @jrcxley
    @jrcxley Жыл бұрын

    I once did a job for a new mum. At the end of the day she was talking to me while cradling her baby girl. I reached out to sqeeze what thought was the baby's hand, and to my shock it was just the stub of her arm. The poor mum explained to me that her beautiful little girl was born with no feet, and no hands. I went home that day to my wife and I just burst into tears about that poor baby's horrible handicap.

  • @Vor567tez
    @Vor567tez Жыл бұрын

    I can't express how I feel. I am so touched by the victims choosing the greater good over rightful anger. They are great people. I pray they live long and happy life.

  • @alysonbouchard3201
    @alysonbouchard32016 жыл бұрын

    My good friend Louise is a Thalidomide baby. She was born with no arms, 1 full leg and the other leg ended at the knee with a foot. She taught me how to ride and care for horses, she drives, trains service dogs and lives a full happy life. She has always been an inspiration to me

  • @angelfish466

    @angelfish466

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alyson Bouchard wow she’s a strong woman I hope for the best for her

  • @thehamburglar401

    @thehamburglar401

    5 жыл бұрын

    Alyson Bouchard one of my friends in 1st grade wasn’t as bad as your friend but she was born without a right hand. She wasn’t having any trouble with it and she even made fun of it with everybody else and she was so strong through all of her surgeries to help her live a normal life.

  • @rachelmccartney5931

    @rachelmccartney5931

    5 жыл бұрын

    She sounds amazing

  • @whoatemylastcheezit511

    @whoatemylastcheezit511

    5 жыл бұрын

    She sounds amazing+

  • @menkisser611

    @menkisser611

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thats great

  • @thathobbitlife
    @thathobbitlife5 жыл бұрын

    We should have a national day to honor the doctor, Dr. KELSEY who discovered and questioned it's affects on pregnancy.

  • @yennieamaya8537

    @yennieamaya8537

    5 жыл бұрын

    She should honored with Nobel peace prize!!

  • @mrsqueaker751

    @mrsqueaker751

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes so I can have another day off!

  • @shaunamarks3107

    @shaunamarks3107

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Johan Fouche "doing your job" she was the one doctor who didn't just brush it under the carpet that something was wrong with the drug

  • @shombie2737

    @shombie2737

    5 жыл бұрын

    "affects on pregnancy". Actually, that's "effects" :)

  • @amberl3305

    @amberl3305

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@shombie2737 lol people always have trouble with that one

  • @davidvega3375
    @davidvega337522 күн бұрын

    My dad was born in Mexico in 1963. Today i took my dad in for an appointment. He has a deformity on his left hand. The doctor suggested that i look up thalidomide. This broke my heart. I dont lnow if this is the cause of his deformity. But i love my dad. He's a very smart man. I am six months sober today. And im helping him out with his alcoholism. God bless everyone.

  • @lindsay2470

    @lindsay2470

    14 күн бұрын

    Congratulations on your six month anniversary! You are stronger than you know! May God bless you and your father as well.

  • @livenow397
    @livenow397 Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately around that time there were not too many sources of information available as compared to now. Kudos to Dr. Kelsey for her brave stand, resulting in saving so many lives. And Giselle for her wisdom to open to other point of views, and live her best life in spite of her daily challenges and to those parents who loved their children just as they are and took care of them the best way they can.

  • @christinebeames712

    @christinebeames712

    Жыл бұрын

    In the coming years , I fear many health problems will be attributed to the jab we were pushed to take

  • @macskasbogre133

    @macskasbogre133

    Жыл бұрын

    @@christinebeames712 The amount of information available is "too much" now. Or rather, people's capacity to understand the information and interpret it is stunted. No matter how many sources are available, when you're presented conflicting information and haven't learned proper reading comprehension pr to tell legit and fake sources apart.

  • @ManuelPerez-ef2ym
    @ManuelPerez-ef2ym2 жыл бұрын

    "They don't have the right to be shocked. The shock doesnt belong to them." This was deep in many levels.

  • @yaseenyameen4880

    @yaseenyameen4880

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ikr :(

  • @themandarin9493

    @themandarin9493

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow. It's so horrible what happened to these people.

  • @joys8634

    @joys8634

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themandarin9493 funny how people blindly take a va33ine that isnt fda approved. all for money

  • @joys8634

    @joys8634

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mello_the_cat bro it literally effects diabetics and obese at the highest rate possible. The general public doesn't need to take a non approved drug that has no liability if anything goes wrong. the effects are unknown when the glorified flu isn't even deadly if you're healthy. Sheep

  • @thetablethatsugabuttmadefe4026

    @thetablethatsugabuttmadefe4026

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mello_the_cat idk man. I hope there is no long term effects. Remember the vaccine didn't have a long term trial as previous vaccines. We really don't know if people will start having symptoms two or three years down. I really hope it doesn't.

  • @ebrubulat2333
    @ebrubulat23332 жыл бұрын

    One of the countries that doesnt have any Thalidomide case is Turkey. All thanks to Professor Doctor Süreyya Tahsin who studied on medicine concluding that the drug has a side effect on the embryo. He immediately warned the health minister of the time and made sure no one used the medicine. A remarkable scientist. edit: hi everyone a lot of people corrected me on how many other countries didnt have any cases so i fixed the sentence. hope i didn't offend anyone.

  • @bhav7539

    @bhav7539

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's remarkable!

  • @newlife8318

    @newlife8318

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bless him and his family forever.

  • @connorswearingen3272

    @connorswearingen3272

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's a truly impressive doctor and a credit to the medical field. I only wish more could be like him and Dr. Kelsey.

  • @yungtooli

    @yungtooli

    2 жыл бұрын

    he’s a better man than me🙏

  • @oprah7

    @oprah7

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great man.

  • @shayoui
    @shayoui Жыл бұрын

    It’s sickening to think how many children were killed or abandoned for being deformed. Those parents didn’t deserve children if they weren’t willing to consider the risk of disorders/birth defects that are possible in any pregnancy. Absolutely heartbreaking the way they’d treat an innocent newborn like that. Being born into the world and killed by the ones who were supposed to love you, all just for looking different. And the ones who were abandoned, they must’ve been so confused.

  • @trinabina3900

    @trinabina3900

    Жыл бұрын

    I know. So effing horrible.

  • @jamynajneen5661

    @jamynajneen5661

    Жыл бұрын

    Not many families has money and other facilities to raise a deformed child. It takes patience, willingness and unconditional love.

  • @suemassey5076

    @suemassey5076

    Жыл бұрын

    Added to which it was the mother who caused the problem

  • @ue9r6

    @ue9r6

    Жыл бұрын

    So how many children with birth defects or injuries have you adopted and raised? None you say, thought so....

  • @shayoui

    @shayoui

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ue9r6 what does that have to do with me being against ableist parents lmao

  • @uselessSam
    @uselessSam6 ай бұрын

    we were taught about this tragedy during chemistry class in high school. we were studying stereochemistry, optical isomerism specifically.

  • @wetraccoonbetterthantrump

    @wetraccoonbetterthantrump

    5 ай бұрын

    Dextro helped with morning sickness and laevo caused horrible birth defects?

  • @uselessSam

    @uselessSam

    5 ай бұрын

    @@wetraccoonbetterthantrump something like that, yeah. lol

  • @jensen1971x
    @jensen1971x2 жыл бұрын

    I went to school with a boy that had no arms and practically no shoulders due to this medication. Amazingly, he was able to do almost everything with his feet, even write.

  • @idk-just-tea

    @idk-just-tea

    2 жыл бұрын

    Woah.

  • @adraxas13

    @adraxas13

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats talent

  • @-._.-KRiS-._.-

    @-._.-KRiS-._.-

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@adraxas13 No, that's environmental adaptation.

  • @riotgrrl_rox_u1163

    @riotgrrl_rox_u1163

    2 жыл бұрын

    My great aunt was a thalidomide baby. She had severe disabilities but was so sweet she was one of the most loved members of our family. I often think of her and hope she understood how adored she was ❤

  • @dartisboi

    @dartisboi

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is Badass...

  • @betha.6279
    @betha.62792 жыл бұрын

    The greed of drug companies is absolutely disgusting!

  • @savannab5661

    @savannab5661

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still going on today

  • @357-swagnumultramagax9

    @357-swagnumultramagax9

    2 жыл бұрын

    Johnson and Johnson killed me .

  • @CptGravel

    @CptGravel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Capitalism

  • @herb2110

    @herb2110

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CptGravel based

  • @shadowbanned.5658

    @shadowbanned.5658

    2 жыл бұрын

    Especially now.

  • @joonlovescrabs
    @joonlovescrabs Жыл бұрын

    I’ve been strangely obsessed with this video for a long long time. i’m now using it as an inspiration for an english school project and i want to thank you for being one of the first historical topics of mine. I’m now a history buff and this exact video was kind of the start to my lovely historical studying entertainment and interests. love y’all 💜

  • @gailknight3128
    @gailknight3128 Жыл бұрын

    I can remember when this happened. It has taken many years for victims to get any compensation from the company. Some babies were actually placed near an open window, so that they would die if they were very deformed too. Such a sad time.

  • @karlabritfeld7104

    @karlabritfeld7104

    Жыл бұрын

    Nonsense

  • @azillliasmith2734

    @azillliasmith2734

    7 ай бұрын

    @@karlabritfeld7104 it's not Nonsense.....

  • @advocacynaccountablity
    @advocacynaccountablity5 жыл бұрын

    We owe a huge debt of gratitude to Dr. Frances Kelsey. Another woman who has not been given her due for her contributions to science and medicine!

  • @shombie2737

    @shombie2737

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes. If you're interested, Rosalind Franklin actually discovered the double helix of DNA. Watson and Crick claimed it and the rest is unfortunately history. :-(

  • @chasidahl8563

    @chasidahl8563

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely right. Such an injustice......

  • @Johnnybomb1

    @Johnnybomb1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shombie2737 Revisionist History. 👎🏼

  • @tylerjmast

    @tylerjmast

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was a video of her accepting a literal medal from Kennedy...

  • @FishFreddy

    @FishFreddy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Like 99.99% of the female and male scientific community. It is not spwcial because she is female.

  • @johnnyfavorite1194
    @johnnyfavorite11947 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Frances Kelsey 2:42 is a name every American grade school student should know. Grünenthal was breathing down Kelly's neck to hurry up and clear Thalidomide for sale in the U.S., but she proved incorruptible. Her zealous commitment to her hippocratic oath is the exact brand of heroism that truly saves the day.

  • @Lorieellesh

    @Lorieellesh

    7 жыл бұрын

    Too bad there aren't more like her.

  • @SusanWagnerWhite

    @SusanWagnerWhite

    7 жыл бұрын

    Frances Kelsey.

  • @johnnyfavorite1194

    @johnnyfavorite1194

    7 жыл бұрын

    Susan Wagner-White Oh The Irony of my first sentence. Thanks.

  • @AlienInDisguise101

    @AlienInDisguise101

    7 жыл бұрын

    quick correction, zealous not jealous

  • @johnnyfavorite1194

    @johnnyfavorite1194

    7 жыл бұрын

    AlienInDisguise101 No jealous is the right word.

  • @happycook6737
    @happycook67378 ай бұрын

    Pregnant women should not take any medicine unless absolutely necessary! Everything should be considered potentially toxic.

  • @wetraccoonbetterthantrump
    @wetraccoonbetterthantrump5 ай бұрын

    The dextro form of thalidomide was actually helpful for dealing with morning sickness for women, the laevo form was the one which caused birth defects. Many people think that optical isomers aren't very different in their properties, but this shows how important the knowledge of chemistry is.

  • @fazlunarae5027
    @fazlunarae50272 жыл бұрын

    I can only imagine the mothers who took thalidomide, they must have felt guilt for taking it :(

  • @gwendolinehall1386

    @gwendolinehall1386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Call the Midwife did a couple episodes based on it, really well done.

  • @korn5308

    @korn5308

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im sure some committed suicide from guilt

  • @user-zx5kq6hs9d

    @user-zx5kq6hs9d

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did! and stopped just in time a have two grown children, now. But my sister had two children born with holes in their hearts, heart murmurs. Using debendox morning sickness pills.

  • @JohaxAlvarado

    @JohaxAlvarado

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to be negative but that's why, if you can, you should stay away from drugs unless you really absolutely need them to cure a disease. Having a headache? Drink some tea instead of having an aspirin

  • @indiaariel2u

    @indiaariel2u

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JohaxAlvarado Drugs don't cure diseases, they can treat them and other conditions though.

  • @gustafdahlman8704
    @gustafdahlman87042 жыл бұрын

    My maternal grandfather was a professor in gynecology in Sweden. When this came out and his colleagues started prescribe this he hesitated because he thought it was shady. He never did prescribe it to any patient despite pressure from both patients and colleagues. He viewed it as the best decision of his life.

  • @wiremuturner1482

    @wiremuturner1482

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bless your grandfather for better judgment 🧡💯

  • @glendalynda6587

    @glendalynda6587

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your grandfather was a good soul for not giving prescriptions for this drug. Ethics are supposed to be used to determine if it is right or wrong to give pharmaceutical drugs that might cause health problems for patients.

  • @datguy5818

    @datguy5818

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good man. Bless him

  • @Prometheus7272

    @Prometheus7272

    2 жыл бұрын

    The greatest heroism is the moral courage to go against the group when you think what their doing is wrong.

  • @anujdgaf

    @anujdgaf

    Жыл бұрын

    this story just came out of nowhere

  • @caseyjones9716
    @caseyjones9716 Жыл бұрын

    We will never know how many babies Frances Kelsey saved. God bless her. Back then, in that environment, she had to have been the strongest woman on Earth.

  • @vickydupree8871
    @vickydupree8871 Жыл бұрын

    Bless her heart.Im thankful she is alive and had family support.I hope all children dealing with this,now grown are doing well.

  • @antoninocammarata6541
    @antoninocammarata6541 Жыл бұрын

    I have learned so much this is an amazing and interesting sad and warm hearted story but I am very glad that I learned about this topic, my heart goes out to all the kids who lost their lives, and to the ones that lived

  • @lazysundayz
    @lazysundayz2 жыл бұрын

    Whenever I learn about these horrible parts of history it's always striking that this wasn't THAT long ago.

  • @YamiKisara

    @YamiKisara

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean it's been only one year when pharma companies had millions of people take esentially untested vaccines and we're yet to learn what side effects they might have - some are comming to light now.

  • @HerMajesty1

    @HerMajesty1

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's happening right now

  • @chrisholden7918

    @chrisholden7918

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@YamiKisara they aren’t untested and they’ve been in development since the SARS outbreak in 2002. It’s not wise to speak on things you know nothing about.

  • @blechkopp1632

    @blechkopp1632

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chrisholden7918 But its fun to spread fear and panic, ah humans.

  • @rollinthruu

    @rollinthruu

    2 жыл бұрын

    its striking that its happening now in literally everything tho..

  • @memry1571
    @memry15715 жыл бұрын

    Wish Hollywood would make a movie about Dr. Frances Kelsey; she saved so many.

  • @yiwanye1221

    @yiwanye1221

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mem Ry Yes!

  • @laurenhall2510

    @laurenhall2510

    5 жыл бұрын

    There's actually a stage production that debuted in 2017 about her! It's [Miss] by W.L. Newkirk

  • @georginabarboutis5856

    @georginabarboutis5856

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why dont you suggest it- strongly😀

  • @ArtificialPerson

    @ArtificialPerson

    5 жыл бұрын

    It'd be awesome!!! Like that Will Smith movie Concussion, love those movies and documentaires (there's a Netflix one on medical devices and it's really eye-opening)

  • @whiteout0111

    @whiteout0111

    5 жыл бұрын

    Some stories wont make money. While she made life changing discoveries, no one is going to go see a movie filled with disabled deformed children. Its disturbing. I know I would'nt see it. It's just depressing, just the first 7 minutes of this video was more than enough for me

  • @god5590
    @god55908 ай бұрын

    10:15 what a great outlook. i wish more people were open minded like her seeing that there are positives for something that's hurt you and affected your whole life - very mature

  • @danielbrien1776
    @danielbrien1776 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! This video was very informative...

  • @user-lz4mh7tl6f
    @user-lz4mh7tl6f2 жыл бұрын

    I was prescribed Thalidomide when I was pregnant with my first child and I was never told about it's side effects. My bebe has suffered with one leg shorter than the other all her life. I can't prove that it was the drug but I'm convinced it caused this deformity.

  • @beckybull8819

    @beckybull8819

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would be going to see a solicitor if I were you they can see your records and what medication you were on at the time

  • @HappyMarshmallowGamingComedy

    @HappyMarshmallowGamingComedy

    2 жыл бұрын

    Can u pay for a limb lenghtning surgery?

  • @Gir_XD_20

    @Gir_XD_20

    2 жыл бұрын

    I knew someone in girlscouts with the same condition! Tell your bebe that she's not alone and it doesn't make her weird no matter what people say!🥰🥰

  • @Blue-mr7fe

    @Blue-mr7fe

    2 жыл бұрын

    Limb lengthening is very limited and is very iffy since the usual is breaking the bone in segments and forcing space so it then would be healed in between. And that what causes the limitation you need to consider how far you can stretch the muscle and the skin yet still keep a functioning shape so thoes operations on average only give very few inches

  • @KD400_

    @KD400_

    2 жыл бұрын

    U should have told ur spouse that these doctors did not make u aware about the side affects honestly y were they giving pregnant women these things without consulting their families

  • @alleyfore1609
    @alleyfore16092 жыл бұрын

    The fact I carry multiple degrees and hadn't heard her name until well into adulthood is terrifying. Dr Kelsey is a literal legend and hero!

  • @newlife8318

    @newlife8318

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. Many of our current medical experts seem to be seriously brainwashed, an essential allowing the right to practice.

  • @j.symone

    @j.symone

    2 жыл бұрын

    Next month I will have my third. (Healthcare) and this was never a topic that was touched on in all the education I got and I wonder why.

  • @samjohnstone1356

    @samjohnstone1356

    2 жыл бұрын

    the more left leaning the College the more irrelevant the degree, as the saying goes

  • @AlexiasShado

    @AlexiasShado

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@samjohnstone1356 @EepOpOrk OMFG Y'all can't help popping off your jealousy at educated/intelligent people. We get it. You're inferior. It bothers you so much that someone mentioned college degrees that you had to assume politics were involved somehow - probably a habit of shoving politics into every conversation by now - that you made the first insult you could think of into an adage.

  • @oofgottarunn

    @oofgottarunn

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AlexiasShado lol if those kids could read they would be very offended at ur comment

  • @nickysankey1210
    @nickysankey1210 Жыл бұрын

    The victims had so much forgiveness, grace and wisdom.

  • @jaei6680
    @jaei66803 ай бұрын

    Little do people know, many similar cases in ongoing right now. It's just at a much less obvious connection.

  • @lunix3259
    @lunix32592 жыл бұрын

    Anything *marketed* as "safe for pregnant women" has always been strange to me. Yesterday an ad showing washing vegetables with soap was okay, that you can even wash babies with it. I just know there's something up with those scummy marketing.

  • @510heart510

    @510heart510

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah even stuff from Johnson & Johnson ain’t all that good for babies :/

  • @archkull

    @archkull

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@golden flower child i know right? People are so quick to let go of personal responsibility if things around them promise they don't need to worry about it for long enough. but given the amount of science denying freaks in this comment section alone maybe the world isn't ready for people to be accountable yet lmfao Also, why tf would you wash vegetables with soap??

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    @werstillnotfreedamit8701

    2 жыл бұрын

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  • @ajwong4375

    @ajwong4375

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@werstillnotfreedamit8701 English please?

  • @tinotcg5815

    @tinotcg5815

    2 жыл бұрын

    Makes me think of the covid vaccine

  • @Dougy359
    @Dougy3596 жыл бұрын

    I'm a chemist and I can also shed some light on this. Thalidomide has two forms, S-thalidomide and R-thalidomide. This is called a racemic mixture. Basically there are two sides of the molecule and the R or S determines which side points up. S-thalidomide caused all of the birth defects but R-thalidomide is still an effective drug. It's one of the cases we chemists look at as one of our greatest failures and an important reminder of why the small details are important. The problem with racemic mixtures is they are hard to isolate. Chemists studying it initially only noticed and studied the R compound, which is how it made it past the first round.

  • @sarcosmic6982

    @sarcosmic6982

    6 жыл бұрын

    Luke Douglass Fascinating. Thank you for shedding more light on this!

  • @atropabelladonna3120

    @atropabelladonna3120

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yay science! Thanks for the info

  • @asoongUSMC

    @asoongUSMC

    6 жыл бұрын

    Conformational structures!!!!

  • @Dougy359

    @Dougy359

    6 жыл бұрын

    You're all welcome, I tried my best to explain it in a way that was understandable to the average person.

  • @isabelnecessary5915

    @isabelnecessary5915

    6 жыл бұрын

    Luke Douglass Can’t R thalidomide also become S type in the body as well?

  • @unknown.mp4
    @unknown.mp42 жыл бұрын

    Never knew about this, what a tragedy.. Thanks for making me aware about this, and sharing this important information.

  • @cr3237
    @cr3237 Жыл бұрын

    My mother was prescribed thalidomide for morning sickness. She took it for a while but it didn't help so she stopped taking it, thankfully. I was born in 1960 and wasn't affected, but I do think about the others who weren't so fortunate. I understand that this drug is still used in some other countries though.

  • @quadq6598
    @quadq65985 жыл бұрын

    I am one of the lucky ones, my mother took thalidomide whilst carrying me, I have totally messed up / missing toes on both feet. That's it. Never affected my ability to walk, get a degree, have a family or do anything else, always totally hidden, people know me for years without ever knowing I was touched by this tragedy. In comparison to many I really was not affected at all, I know life would be have been very different had it been fingers messed up rather that toes.

  • @rockie6890

    @rockie6890

    5 жыл бұрын

    You were blessed

  • @Kkkk-pu3ez

    @Kkkk-pu3ez

    5 жыл бұрын

    She probably took it when you were mostly developed? Could you ask her when she started to take it during the pregnancy? I am curious about this.

  • @salicemccool9186

    @salicemccool9186

    4 жыл бұрын

    QuadQ That you consider yourself lucky: respect!!

  • @salicemccool9186

    @salicemccool9186

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rockie If deformed by medicine is “blessed” in your view . . .

  • @dorianm6502

    @dorianm6502

    4 жыл бұрын

    All the kids were blessed.

  • @luizascarpelli9197
    @luizascarpelli91976 жыл бұрын

    I’m Brazilian and would like to explain that we still have babies with birth defects due to Thalidomide because of the lack of education of the majority of our population. It is sold in the black market as an abortion medication, because it has a drawing of a pregnant woman with a red line across it. People who are poor here don’t know the history of this drug and associate the drawing with abortion. This only happens due to the illegality of this procedure in my country. I think that the restricted use of Thalidomide in cases of tumors or other serious diseases is totally ok, as long as it’s supervised by a doctor.

  • @monesmom2010

    @monesmom2010

    5 жыл бұрын

    Luiza Scarpelli that is so sad.

  • @GovilGirl

    @GovilGirl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Apparently there is another form of tge drug. The R form of the molecule causes birth defects and the S form is safer and does not cause defects but is much more difficult and probably expensive to produce. (There is a chemist comment further up the comments and I may be misquoting.) So why are they still making the R form at all? If there is a need for abortion medications why not black market actual abortion medications? Why can't these horrible people selling it this way just buy some stickers or labels and put that on safe abortion drugs - which are probably cheaper? Women everywhere deserve correct info to make informed decisions on their health. Or maybe T makers need to have a picture of the birth defects on the bottles instead.

  • @GovilGirl

    @GovilGirl

    5 жыл бұрын

    Also we are so upset over the loss of your wonderful museum. It is a tragedy for the world.

  • @Naharu.

    @Naharu.

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm from Brazil too, and friend of mine was pregnant when she was 18 and her parents and her boyfriend's parents tried to make her take this to end the pregnancy.

  • @MeganMatthews3838

    @MeganMatthews3838

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for explaining this. I had no idea, but the way you explain it makes sense. Not that it is the right thing to do, because labels that mean one thing can so easily be misunderstood. How sad that there is not more education and health care available. All I can say is that it's not fair. I wish I could change it, but don't know how.

  • @SuperAwesomeKikka
    @SuperAwesomeKikka Жыл бұрын

    my dad was affected by this, and its mad trippy reading abt smth that is in ur family

  • @KHowardishereandthefunsbegun
    @KHowardishereandthefunsbegun2 жыл бұрын

    My great aunt took thalidomide, her baby ended up being stillborn, these poor people who were affected by this drug deserve the utmost respect and love.

  • @Nyctocia

    @Nyctocia

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry for your aunt :(

  • @lindasue4237

    @lindasue4237

    2 жыл бұрын

    So very sad!

  • @jfj876

    @jfj876

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's strange how those short hand defect is almost similar to the agent 🍊 victims of the Vietnam war?

  • @Breatheairmyguy

    @Breatheairmyguy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't remember but I think a stillborn baby is when a fetus calcifies and become a rock

  • @VampireDemon57

    @VampireDemon57

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Breatheairmyguy That’s a lithopedion which is a calcification of the fetus (aka it turns to stone). A stillborn baby is just a baby that was born dead as it had died in the womb (but still looking how it should be rather than stone).

  • @christhwaites
    @christhwaites8 жыл бұрын

    That female who is a deformation victim. Is an absolute miracle and I hope she is recognized for her voice someday. She is so human. "in good conscious I cannot be opposed." She even wants nothing but a note in history. But she wants those who can be helped. to be helped. She is quite a woman.

  • @ReemaSingh95

    @ReemaSingh95

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Chris Thwaites I couldn't agree more.

  • @juliaho1999

    @juliaho1999

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's actually "good conscience" instead of "good conscious" :) And yes I do agree with you. She is indeed a remarkable person.

  • @annedavis3340

    @annedavis3340

    6 жыл бұрын

    Of COURSE she is "so human." She IS human.

  • @milliefusion7340

    @milliefusion7340

    6 жыл бұрын

    She is human. Just because she has short arms, doesn't mean she isn't human. Your comment does not make sense.

  • @bethratkewicz6062

    @bethratkewicz6062

    6 жыл бұрын

    Starry Bear he's saying that she represents everything good about the human race. Humanity. Being a good human.

  • @RobinPM86
    @RobinPM86 Жыл бұрын

    What a brave woman. She lives with the affects of this drug every day - physical and emotional- yet she realizes its possible benefits for other people. So she and others like her reluctantly say "OK".

  • @apollinaria_yasinskaya
    @apollinaria_yasinskaya3 ай бұрын

    This is absolutely heart breaking. I feel deeply sorry for every single one of these adorable and innocent children. I feel like giving them the biggest, warmest hug to show they are not alone :(

  • @strangelyfamiliar1729
    @strangelyfamiliar17292 жыл бұрын

    This is a decades long chapter in the power of corporate greed that will never and should never be forgotten.

  • @pixied1028

    @pixied1028

    2 жыл бұрын

    Still occurs today sadly

  • @edwardhisse2687

    @edwardhisse2687

    2 жыл бұрын

    Corporate greed is the basis of todays economy. Theres no cure when the whole system is cancerous

  • @XuyenaFire

    @XuyenaFire

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardhisse2687 The cure is to get rid of the system, easier said than done of course.

  • @Soleilune1995

    @Soleilune1995

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@XuyenaFire The cure is to get of the system, but the system is preserved by the rich and powerful who benefit from it. People are indoctrinated into believing that this system is required for freedom, but then they ignore the reality that is right in front of their eyes. This is what capitalism has become, and what it will always be going forward. It can only get worse. Corporations are too powerful. The rich can change the world--and the way our daily lives work--on a whim. How is this freedom? It's not. We need to evolve beyond this era. It isn't meant to last forever.

  • @shadow_of_thoth

    @shadow_of_thoth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardhisse2687 I'm not sure if you intended to use "cancerous" somewhat literally, but you're actually not even exaggerating. The corporate system is based on infinite growth (profit), despite limited resources... which, in the context of cell biology, is precisely what causes cancer to be lethal. Not even joking. Cancer is endless cell growth despite limited nutrients in the body. A normal cell has a life cycle that ends in apoptosis, where it dies, so that new cells can thrive. However, cancer cells simply refuse to die. They just continously grow and grow, until they eventually starve healthy cells of nutrients, resulting in the death of the organism as a whole.

  • @georgef1176
    @georgef11762 жыл бұрын

    How can they be “shocked” when they all knew how bad it was. That’s called not caring.

  • @reemaraha6100

    @reemaraha6100

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's also minus conscience.

  • @ALT-vz3jn

    @ALT-vz3jn

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s called sticking your head in the sand and hoping it will magically go away. Like Trump did with the pandemic.

  • @reheatthepasta9545

    @reheatthepasta9545

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ALT-vz3jn nope nothing alike, educate yourself

  • @BadcatV

    @BadcatV

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's called negligence.

  • @reheatthepasta9545

    @reheatthepasta9545

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BadcatV nope, negligence isn’t taking steps to lessen the virus spread by shutting down travel from the place it originated and media calls you xenophobic. It’s not saying the truth about the virus being from wuhan and still it’s denied even though it’s true. Rather trump than Biden any day. America was all the better for it despite propaganda tearing us apart.

  • @StillYHWHs
    @StillYHWHs3 ай бұрын

    This was a nightmare. It's happening again today.

  • @cityofdreams23
    @cityofdreams232 жыл бұрын

    How come I've NEVER heard of this until today. This needs more attention.

  • @cityofdreams23

    @cityofdreams23

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Gi Gi I live in India and I'm also just 20 so I can understand it's kind of hard to come across this. But even then, I like reading a lot about history and stuff and I've never come across this by chance, so that's why I'm a little surprised.

  • @Lauraphoid

    @Lauraphoid

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is a really famous story.

  • @roseeriana8480

    @roseeriana8480

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow mee too

  • @ilovegoodsax

    @ilovegoodsax

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're old enough, you know about the Thalidomide babies. It was a big story that got lots of attention -- 60 years ago. I was born in 1960, the year the drug came to the U.S. However, I did not grow up with a child whose mother took the drug for her morning sickness.

  • @gabrielaazevedo9491

    @gabrielaazevedo9491

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Gi Gi it's also a pretty famous case in Brazil, we learn that in chemistry class

  • @jimmythe-gent
    @jimmythe-gent2 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Kelsey literally saved America's children... Absolutely amazing, True Hero.

  • @froggacuda1605

    @froggacuda1605

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a good story, but it's not true. The NYT didn't do it's homework. Look at other sites for the real history of the drug which shows that, in reality, the FDA just got very very lucky due to paperwork and bureaucratic delays

  • @Hjernespreng

    @Hjernespreng

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@froggacuda1605 the delays included Dr. Kelsey refusing approval.

  • @timothyodeyale6565

    @timothyodeyale6565

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Hjernespreng However, if the FDA didnt support her, she would have probably buckled under the mysogininy of the age.

  • @TmWastr

    @TmWastr

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah, when america's safe the whole world is...

  • @swingtity9798

    @swingtity9798

    2 жыл бұрын

    heil americas lazy and slow paperwork xD

  • @melissavogel2129
    @melissavogel21298 ай бұрын

    Call The Midwife is an awesome show that depicts this era so well and I had no idea about thalidomide until I watched it

  • @shellybelly1071
    @shellybelly1071 Жыл бұрын

    Learned about this chemistry class in school. The fact that people didn't realise that Thalidomide contained chiral carbons make me scared to take certain medications period. Medicines take time to be green lighted for this exact reason. It also reminds me of the vix inhaler ban in the USA that was also due to chiral chemistry. How nasty- I feel terrible for those affected by this tragedy.

  • @jocoombe3
    @jocoombe32 жыл бұрын

    My mom took Thalidomide for three weeks when she was pregnant with me. I am so lucky to have all my limbs, and never forget that for a minute!

  • @katesun2957

    @katesun2957

    2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any other problems, like infertility, mental issues?

  • @jocoombe3

    @jocoombe3

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@katesun2957 no none, I consider myself extremely lucky ☺️

  • @DreaMSmaSher98

    @DreaMSmaSher98

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow what a luck! I'm so lucky to read that you're fine. English isn't my native language, but I hope I express myself good enough to tell you that I wish you everything good and only the best and that I'm lucky for you

  • @katesun2957

    @katesun2957

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jocoombe3 I'm so happy for you too.

  • @michaelbodine6142

    @michaelbodine6142

    Жыл бұрын

    Bye about the 5th week Joe you would have been dead.

  • @mizzysparrots4874
    @mizzysparrots48742 жыл бұрын

    This reminds me of the radium girls. It was so obvious they were having issues but the company swore that radium was ok still. It took forever to get radium under lock and key.

  • @gratefulmomma4207

    @gratefulmomma4207

    2 жыл бұрын

    I live in radium city and we STILL have barrels of radium buried under the ground. Cancer rates are crazy in my old neighborhood.

  • @maxlosergor

    @maxlosergor

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gratefulmomma4207 hmm you should move

  • @gratefulmomma4207

    @gratefulmomma4207

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxlosergor if I had the money I would..... trust me

  • @allaboutcash439

    @allaboutcash439

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maxlosergor really nice comment.

  • @nancyhoward1917

    @nancyhoward1917

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have do much and many friends and family that believe Doctors 101 0/0

  • @miketgl4543
    @miketgl45434 ай бұрын

    Great program.

  • @mojyoqueen350
    @mojyoqueen3508 ай бұрын

    If living with my grandparents in a small village thought me anything, it was to never trust pharmacy.

  • @danielkyavata6233
    @danielkyavata62332 жыл бұрын

    It's ironic, we imagine strong, fit, and beautiful people as leaders and heroes, but it's often people with deformities and disabilities that most illustrate the best of the human spirit.

  • @lilacs_echoing

    @lilacs_echoing

    2 жыл бұрын

    This made me smile. Always felt really down and privileged about my disability, sometimes never felt it was a real or valid one, always felt there were stories that upped mine so I couldn't be disabled. I didn't even know I was disabled until this year. I'm a type one diabetic since 5 years old

  • @KiRa-fy6uq

    @KiRa-fy6uq

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am not a qoute person but this, this I love

  • @aidens5303

    @aidens5303

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its often not that at all lmao, thats just the modern more feelings over strength, power, and leadership version of heroes.

  • @xelyius5480

    @xelyius5480

    2 жыл бұрын

    Compound complex pog

  • @Llyrdriel

    @Llyrdriel

    2 жыл бұрын

    Here here! 👏

  • @WolfTwisted
    @WolfTwisted2 жыл бұрын

    50 years from now people will be watching similar documentaries about the cruelty of price gouging insulin, epipen, and other life saving drugs and treatments.

  • @pricklypear7516

    @pricklypear7516

    2 жыл бұрын

    They'll be watching, hopefully in horror, about the havoc wreaked by antidepressants and other pharmaceuticals that are handed out like candy.

  • @Skitdora2010

    @Skitdora2010

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can thank Biden for continuing to help the companies hijack the price. He froze an executive order Trump had made that lowered prices. www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-insulin-epipen/

  • @taserrr

    @taserrr

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL, other first world countries have been looking down on the USA for decades because of those practices already, never mind 50 years from now. If only the other half of your country would wake up you could actually do something about it and fix your countries decline.

  • @sarahtwirls8945

    @sarahtwirls8945

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope America can overcome this costly healthcare system and move towards a more universal approach like Europe

  • @lafireteamplx3400

    @lafireteamplx3400

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pricklypear7516 easy solution, say no?

  • @Naturally3m0
    @Naturally3m0Ай бұрын

    My cousin is a thalidomide. He's been on TV a couple times, but it's amazing how well he just gets on with life, does everything any "normal" person would, just without arms & legs, and his mother was amazing. Died 2 years ago, but would have been 100 yesterday! ❤

  • @lanoosaurusrex
    @lanoosaurusrex8 ай бұрын

    Very famous case - I remember learning about it in chemistry or biochem class. It makes me wonder what other medications are out there that we shouldn’t be taking. I mean, Oxycontin was also marketed towards doctors as a painkiller less addictive than regular painkillers.

  • @lilacheart_
    @lilacheart_2 жыл бұрын

    realistically this isn’t the drugs fault. This is the fault of the company had no regard for human life. Everything in this world has a good side and a bad side, we just have to make sure into falls into the right hands

  • @maddieokefefe4874

    @maddieokefefe4874

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s like killing someone with a rock and then blaming the rock for the victims death

  • @sarathomas8499

    @sarathomas8499

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maddieokefefe4874 same with guns

  • @ghoultooth

    @ghoultooth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sarathomas8499 ^^^This!

  • @royaltyheroismandthestreets

    @royaltyheroismandthestreets

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sara Thomas people don’t seem to get this

  • @ajarivas72

    @ajarivas72

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@maddieokefefe4874 Same with the COVID vaccines 💉

  • @IgorRyltsev
    @IgorRyltsev2 жыл бұрын

    KZread: Let's show you something horrible at night... Thank you...

  • @genshinloreenthusiast7303

    @genshinloreenthusiast7303

    2 жыл бұрын

    horrible, but very interesting

  • @Angry.General1461

    @Angry.General1461

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@genshinloreenthusiast7303 Can you imagine pregnant mothers who took the "covid vaccine" their children comes out like this?

  • @genshinloreenthusiast7303

    @genshinloreenthusiast7303

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Angry.General1461 anything is possible so,

  • @felicity3310

    @felicity3310

    2 жыл бұрын

    I saw ur comment and exited from the video immediately

  • @soniahelton9246

    @soniahelton9246

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe thats your choice what time of day you decided to watch

  • @LemonHelmmet
    @LemonHelmmet2 ай бұрын

    wait till they publish how "safe and effective", you all know what is. this will be a minor incident

  • @KK-eh2gm
    @KK-eh2gm Жыл бұрын

    Superb presentation & reporting. I would like to see more about people born since 2006 & the release/use outside of the US

  • @honeyperry3809
    @honeyperry38092 жыл бұрын

    Why isn't something like this taught in history books? So that we don't repeat such a mistake.... (edit: thanks for replying and letting me know that it's taught in school, but in my school they never taught us abt this and other severe cases, so its good to know that it's taught in other schools, hopefully such cases will never be repeated in the future)

  • @tomcollins5112

    @tomcollins5112

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because it makes modern medicine look bad.

  • @laragenter

    @laragenter

    2 жыл бұрын

    My chemistry teacher actually brought it up and showed us a short video on the topic when we were learning enantiomers (don't know if that's the english word) in class. It's both an interesting and horrifying tragedy nonetheless

  • @vornamenachname1069

    @vornamenachname1069

    2 жыл бұрын

    In Germany, it got mentioned by our history teacher once. But I don't think that it is written down in history books. You may find it in documentaries about that time though.

  • @matthewbrennan9758

    @matthewbrennan9758

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was part of our chemistry syllabus in secondary school. Should definitely be taught everywhere

  • @JennYooTheKorean

    @JennYooTheKorean

    2 жыл бұрын

    Learned this in high school from my biology teacher in 2009. 🤷

  • @aerinlynn1665
    @aerinlynn16652 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately, taking ANY medication during pregnancy is inherently risky. Every single cell of an entire human being is being formed - there's just so much that can go wrong.

  • @shadowcween7890

    @shadowcween7890

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quocano933 That's kind of specific

  • @angelaggarrido7816

    @angelaggarrido7816

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jasmine Victoria I'll say vitamins are not considered medication, however if you have a healthy diet and your doctor doesn't see any deficiency is not required for you to take them.

  • @sady1139

    @sady1139

    Жыл бұрын

    Quốc An Đỗ all jokes aside I’m pretty certain pregnant women actually shouldn’t be taking aspirin

  • @shyviolets

    @shyviolets

    Жыл бұрын

    @@quocano933 are you Nicki Minaj?

  • @DonutCrossing

    @DonutCrossing

    Жыл бұрын

    Right?! There's a civil claims case against Tylenol now because of the developmental disorders it turns out to cause in pregnancies, like ADHD

  • @erinferguson3158
    @erinferguson31583 ай бұрын

    To have the grace of the woman who was born to so much suffering, but also know that it also has helped people, too, is just beyond my comprehension. I am grateful to her. She shows me how to be more like her… ❤

  • @jailbreaker1214
    @jailbreaker12145 ай бұрын

    Being affected by this awful drug is truly a curse of curses

  • @toddv3877
    @toddv38772 жыл бұрын

    The victim who speaks throughout the video is very wise with her words and her views on the drug. I have a lot of respect for her.

  • @theliteralsun5246

    @theliteralsun5246

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michellehousems.lavatwinfi2011 tf?

  • @_aragornyesyes_7171

    @_aragornyesyes_7171

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@theliteralsun5246 its a bot

  • @reenawenriedelmundo3241

    @reenawenriedelmundo3241

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤠

  • @FHyde9977

    @FHyde9977

    Жыл бұрын

    True that.

  • @spran369
    @spran3697 жыл бұрын

    My mother was born without her left ear because of Thalidomide. Luckily it was not too bad.

  • @scubadiva666

    @scubadiva666

    6 жыл бұрын

    I knew a guy who had only two fingers on his left hand, and I think a shortened left arm. I always suspected it might be thalidomide-his mother was Danish, and he was born in the early 60s-but of course I'll never know for sure.

  • @benpayne2836

    @benpayne2836

    6 жыл бұрын

    Derpy Gaming she was lucky x

  • @IIAndersII

    @IIAndersII

    6 жыл бұрын

    Scuba Diva I'm danish and I remember my history teacher, who was born in the 60's also, saying that a lot of children in his generation where missformed because of thalidomide. I don't have any numbers but I suspect my country did take a lot of this drug.

  • @alexpodsvirow6456

    @alexpodsvirow6456

    6 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that she's alright

  • @vanessabanales3689

    @vanessabanales3689

    6 жыл бұрын

    Derpy Gaming bless your mom

  • @Astron0mical..-.
    @Astron0mical..-. Жыл бұрын

    My mother had a rule to never take any new drug she had never taken before whilst pregnant. This drug affected my aunt, so she’s always been careful even when prescribed.

  • @Snarkapotamus
    @Snarkapotamus Жыл бұрын

    I used to play little league with a thalidomide baby. He was born without a right forearm. But that sure didn't stop him from playing ball! He could pitch, field and bat as well or better than most of the others on the team with both hands.

  • @NootalieWalf
    @NootalieWalf2 жыл бұрын

    Giselle’s attitude toward the situation is the absolute pinnacle of maturity and kindness. The fact that she was so negatively affected by the drug, but understood that it had potential to help reduce the suffering of others when used properly is absolutely awe inspiring. Her level of compassion is so refreshing and heartwarming, I hope she’s thriving.

  • @roseroses7576

    @roseroses7576

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I thought the same. She gives me hope in humanity.

  • @Goldblooded559

    @Goldblooded559

    2 жыл бұрын

    Shes such a sweetheart 💕

  • @musictube17

    @musictube17

    2 жыл бұрын

    She is the type of person we should have in charge of FDA type decisions. Not someone who helped create the drugs.

  • @lyndavanvogt3259

    @lyndavanvogt3259

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had a neighbor that had little arms.. But she could cook.. And she took care of baby.. Awesome

  • @vincentkurushimi7975
    @vincentkurushimi79752 жыл бұрын

    My father was one who was affected by thalidomide. He had to had surgery to fix his foot so that he could walk. This is the first video I've actually heard about thalidomide. I knew it was something in the 60s but I had no idea it was on this scale...

  • @TakeYourSoul_Music

    @TakeYourSoul_Music

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh slam

  • @justicenow1234

    @justicenow1234

    2 жыл бұрын

    My love sent to your father. My Soul cries for his pain.

  • @vincentkurushimi7975

    @vincentkurushimi7975

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@justicenow1234 thank you for worrying. He is just fine. :) His was one of the less extreme cases so the surgery really helped him. ^^ figured you'd like to know. He's okay.

  • @justicenow1234

    @justicenow1234

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Vincent Kurushimi you're welcome...and tell your father, to know he had a successful operation makes my Soul feel a little better. It's very sad, how the Government and Drug Agencies use people for lab rats, to their own failures, created by them. It breaks my heart

  • @rosalindr4975

    @rosalindr4975

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s quite a scandal. Like the Tuskegee experiment was hidden. Glad your Dad’s ok