Secrets of Dutch Kickboxing: - Dutch are the tallest people on Earth.

@martijnoerlemans765

8 ай бұрын

By this logic we should dominate basketball as well, it has more to do with the fact we were the first european country to have good trade relations with Japan.

@rikgales123

8 ай бұрын

dutch people care about kickboxing but no one cares about baseball so ofcourse we would suck at it.@@martijnoerlemans765

@toughgiraffe5865

8 ай бұрын

​@@martijnoerlemans765only Americans play basketball, its not a real sport

@dshrm

8 ай бұрын

*Ramon Dekkers entered the chat*

@airsoftsniper9191

8 ай бұрын

​@@dshrm yea dude! A Dutch coach in the Netherlands told me it started with dekkers messing with the Thais

True dutch kickboxing is heavily influenced by kyokushin karate, Bas Rutten one of the fathers of dutch kickboxing (in MMA) is a blackbelt in kyokushin karate

@King_Achilles

Жыл бұрын

100 percent

@dannykicks603

10 ай бұрын

So true.. it’s basically kyokushin with boxing. I trained with lucien carbin. He started with Kyokuskin like many of the other early trainers. I trained at vos and mikes gym too. Unbelievable system. The rest of the world is now basically trying to train in this system now also. You see the techniques so much in the UFC now. Amazing system

@johntay3831

9 ай бұрын

OSU!! all fellow kyokushin karatekas

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

Bas is not at all a pioneer in Dutch KB. Jan Plas and Thom Harinck could be Bas' fathers.

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

Kenji Kurosaki created Japanese KB mixing Muay Tai and yokushin. The dutch added a bit of extra boxing and a drop of Savate.

Secrets of Dutch Kickboxing: It's kyokushin but with gloves

@susanokami3453

7 ай бұрын

and face punch

@pr1r.

7 ай бұрын

dutch kickboxing is not only kyokushin. Its westren boxing, Muay Thai and kyokushin. its these 3 sports mixed in a way to be effective against literally every fighting style. tight guard heavy punches while chopping down the legs with Muay Thai kicks. its a very very effective style but you do need the right trainers to learn the style and the only way by doing that is by coming to the Netherlands. I been training here since I was 13 ( im 21 now ) and I can tell you most of the stuff on KZread is bullshit if you wanna learn the style come to the Netherlands there's plenty of good gym's here usuu

@jamesloganhowlettwolverine1553

7 ай бұрын

​@@pr1r. Old School Dutch Kickboxing even had elbows and clinching, because they had to constantly fight against Muay Thai practitioners and Japanese Kickboxers.

@pr1r.

7 ай бұрын

@@jamesloganhowlettwolverine1553 perfectly said bro 💯 A great example of one of those fighters is Ramon The Diamond Dekkers

@munadiamajiet5281

7 ай бұрын

Not really, the big difference between karate and kickboxing is that in kickboxing there is actually boxing being used maybe not that good but stills boxing, there is also a difference between the guard, kickboxers can stand with any boxing guard but you won't see this in karate. The same thing applies to footwork, head movement and blocking.

Karate + Muay Thai + Boxing = Kickboxing. Kickboxing with a high gaurd with a lot combinations with lowkicks = Dutch Style Kickboxing.

@hecbec

22 күн бұрын

Kyokushin buddy

Kickboxing's introduction to the Netherlands can be traced back to the 1970s. It was during this time that Dutch martial artists who had trained in Japan brought the sport back to the Netherlands. Japan was the hub of kickboxing during that era, having developed its own version of the sport by combining elements of traditional Karate with Muay Thai, a martial art from Thailand. Dutch martial artists like Jan Plas, who trained in Japan, played a crucial role in this process. Plas founded Mejiro Gym in Amsterdam, one of the first kickboxing gyms in the country. He and others like him began teaching kickboxing, incorporating techniques and training methods they had learned in Japan. This new sport quickly gained popularity in the Netherlands. The Dutch approach to kickboxing evolved to have a distinctive style, known for its emphasis on aggressive punching and high work rate. This style was highly effective and led to the success of Dutch fighters in international competitions. Over the years, the Netherlands has produced many world-class kickboxers and has become known as a powerhouse in the sport. The country's unique blend of kickboxing techniques, influenced by Japanese and Muay Thai styles, has made it a significant contributor to the sport's global evolution.

@NickVanos

7 ай бұрын

Very nice explanation 👌 thank you

people are so hard wired to think karate = bullshido that they can't comprehend how good karate is and how nicely it evolved with time.

@GhilenPeek

Жыл бұрын

Because of the mcDojos

@ferumcastrum4097

11 ай бұрын

Point fighting karate is crap, Kyokushin karate is the real deal, is what basically what made both Japanese Kickboxing and Dutch Kickboxing

@SteveFox369

11 ай бұрын

Yes it evolved cause of other martial arts. Kicks from karate have been heavily influenced by Savate for example

@pollen1253

9 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@ferumcastrum4097point karate is exactly what gave it such a bad name now. I do Muay Thai and people ask is it like karate? Thinking it’s like point karate light touch stuff and I say it’s closer to proper combat karate or I know now it’s actually called kyokushin karate. I tell people proper karate can be brutal asf but typically people can’t understand and think karate is just a shitty martial art with dumb useless movements.

@user-cp3ek4zh4s

8 ай бұрын

Because karate isn’t often associated with training as in weight and cardio training. Lazy people want to learn a technique that’s going to help them be able to fight without having to put in the work

Dutch kickboxing also has thai influence

@Jkingknox

9 ай бұрын

😮 wait who c

@shahabsiddique2644

9 ай бұрын

A lot less than people seem to think

@whiteflame24

9 ай бұрын

Only kind of. After Ramone dekkers came back from Thailand they started to implement more of the roundhouse technique from Muay Thai but besides that the footwork, the stance, the hands to kicks combinations all of that comes from Japanese style kickboxing which was invented to compete with and beat Muay Thai. Which it did for a while until Buakaw came along lol.

@tony203x

9 ай бұрын

@@whiteflame24 before all of that the root of all kickboxing actually comes from soccer

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

Kenji Kurosaki created Japanese KB mixing Muay Tai and yokushin. The dutch added a bit of extra boxing and a drop of Savate,

It was about an kyokushin karate practitioner who was getting ready to destroy an muay thai figher so it was like an hybrid of it and the guy who founded dutch kickboxing does boxing and by mixing his skills with the kyokushin karate guy with his boxing and he created a new style which is very effective (just imagine muay thai with boxing footwork and had movement, mixed with insane karate kicks)

Its called Kyokushin.. and it is fucking LEGIT!! Karate is no joke guys.. you know that white dude throwing wild kicks knocking everyone out in the UFC rn, Wonderboy Thompson?.. yeah he has a 5th degree black belt in Kempo.. Lyoto Machida 3rd dan black belt in Shotokan.. George St Pierre 3rd dan blackbelt in Kyokushin.. them Karatekas are no joke.. put some respect on Karate..

@vipr1142

7 ай бұрын

Wonderboy is not a kyokushin fighter tho lol. He is more kempo / shotokan style - like Machida.

@edrodriguez1384

7 ай бұрын

Also none of the guys you named except for 40 year old Wonderboy (who just lost) are still fighting. Karate isnt a viable striking art for modern mma.

@secondchannel1523

7 ай бұрын

​@@edrodriguez1384Wonderboy proves that its very much viable if you have a good ground game. All his loses came from people taking him down except pettis but that was a fluke.

@fknpires4665

7 ай бұрын

@@vipr1142u know how to read?

@vipr1142

7 ай бұрын

@@edrodriguez1384 Wait, so you dont think it has to do with age? Lol Lyoto is 45 years old. GSP is one of the GOATs

In the anime Samurai Champloo, there is an episode where theres an eccentric Dutch man comes into town and learns the Japanese way.

@customconcern1

8 ай бұрын

Just watched that episode

@TheSpencer033

8 ай бұрын

its 2023. you are allowed to say hes gay instead of "eccentric"

@jthizzle5714

8 ай бұрын

Good episode the prositiute episode was a banger as well

@jimmythe-gent

7 ай бұрын

@@TheSpencer033I think they call him a homo

@GL0BETREKKER

7 ай бұрын

The dutch where the only country allowed into feudal Japan for international trade for a long time. This was because they vowed not to impose their religious and cultural beliefs as opposed to Britain. But instead focused on trade, which The Netherlands was the global leader of at that time.

Part of it is the absolutely brutal sparring. They do not hold anything back. When every sparring session is an all-out war, an actual fight becomes just another sparring session

I had a chance to work with Henry at a prime event. He’s a dedicated coach who cares about his craft.

I think the guy he's referring to is named Toshio Fujiwara.

@kesenaememere8520

6 ай бұрын

yep.

the godfather of dutch kickboxing is thom harinck owner of chakuriki gym, he had first ever K1 GP winner Branko Cikatic the croatian tiger. Never forget the legends, RIP branko. OSS

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

Jan Plas from Mejiro Gym is at least as important as Thom Harinck from Chakuriki Gym. Both are legends and Branko was a beast, but Rob Kaman, Ernesto Hoost and Peter Aerts were even more succesful.

@korallrev3497

9 ай бұрын

@@Boredoutofmywits ofcourse they were more successful because branko was 38 when he hit his prime and got opportunity to fight. They were much younger but i belive brankos record is hard to beat 87-9. BTW peter aerts is also from chakuriki and also badr hari. cro cop also trained there for a while. What happend to chakuriki? Not many fighters train there anymore?

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

@@korallrev3497 Harinck left Chakuriki in the early-mid 00s to open an MMA Gym IIRC. Brako was a beast, but lived od his freak power, toughness and sould basic principles. He wasn't as technical as other champs. I admire them all, top fighters and trainers. i don't play favourites.

@korallrev3497

9 ай бұрын

@@Boredoutofmywits agreed about branko. did harinck left his own gym??

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

@@korallrev3497 he has trouble with his business partners. The money guys. I don't know the exact details, but know it happened.

Kenji Kurosaki and Fujihara of Kyokushinkai

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

Kenji Kurosaki created Japanese KB mixing Muay Tai and yokushin. The dutch added a bit of extra boxing and a drop of Savate,

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

Even Oyama has added some Muay Tay to his mix of Shotokan and Goju-ryu to for Kyoku

Then his master told him to train hard and go fight the kumite and beat Chong Lee

Yep in the 80s and 90s MMA you got japanese dudes fighting like it was 2020

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@johnvanhal2450

Ай бұрын

As always. And as always deeply divided. I better shut my mouth. Because I don't know enough about it.

Such great content by hoof

And karate was influenced by the French sailors because of Savate. No high roundhouses until the early 20th century in most Asian martial arts. Full circle is made 🇫🇷🇯🇵🇳🇱

@jjtmmjjmm2113

10 ай бұрын

Savate it so slept on its a tragedy!

@marcusfranconium3392

10 ай бұрын

You do know karate existed before the portuguese and Dutch established contact with japan and even before any frenchy set sail to the far east . Savate did not influence karate . Not by a long shot . early 1800s street fighting , while karate existed in the 18th century . so please explain how they influanced something that existed 100 prior and only colonized indochina in the late 1800s . Your facts dont add up .

@marcusfranconium3392

10 ай бұрын

@@jjtmmjjmm2113 Its slept on for a reason , it doesnt work .

@jjtmmjjmm2113

10 ай бұрын

@@marcusfranconium3392 an Olympic savate practitioner would walk through you

@marcusfranconium3392

10 ай бұрын

@@jjtmmjjmm2113 I would love to se see him trie . As i had my share of real fights against these little bitches and some how they where always crying in a corner.

Dutch kickboxing is a comination of boxing, muay thai, kukushin karate

Kyokushin Karate + Boxing + Muay Thai = Dutch Kickboxing

Greco-Roman wresting is from Japan?

Bedankt voor waarheid

They guy was practicing for a fight in Thailand 🤔 hmm. Dare i say muai thai lmaooo

Karate based, added Muay Thai and some sick Boxing combos

Not a huge fan of henry, but he is right. Guys like semmy schilt train others in kyokushin these days. Im sure many others do aswell.

Kiokushin + Muy-Thai - effective combination 🎉

He failed to mention it was "Kyokushin" Karate...not Shotokan

True. You can thank kyokushin karate. I trained at an amazing kyokushin dojo and it is no joke. OSU!

@Boredoutofmywits

9 ай бұрын

Even Oyama has added some Muay Tai to his mix of Shotokan and Goju-ryu to form Kyoku

Why’s it’s crap? Mejiro and Vos started like this, but I don’t know if Thom Harinck went to Japan, but i know he study Kyokushinkai.

@prvtthd401

Жыл бұрын

You didn't click on the respond button my friend. Now it looks like your comment is randomly questioning nothing 😂

@user-dq7hd8ml5z

Жыл бұрын

Who gives a siht only you, so you must of read it!!

Karate+Boxing=Kickboxing

Wow that's great he shared the truth about Dutch kickboxing #dutchkickboxing

Dutch kickboxing is not that they invented kickboxing, it’s the style of kickboxing… much more focused on combo’s than going in hard, like the Thai

when you really start to look at their origins all martial arts come from other martial arts from different countries, i don't understand why people like to say it's from japan when if you actually look far enough it didn't start there either, it's just one of the most recent places in that specific martial art's evolution.

I wanted to go to Japan 🗾 with Quinton or Ryan Gracie.... Rampage is still here! He is the real life Godzilla 🐲

IT ALL EVOLVED FROM WRESTLING

although nowadays dutch style and jp stayle are way too diferrent, dutch style focuses more on "verticallity" and aggression, jp style has more focuus on mobility and techinque, to give you guys an idea of how Dutch and Jp differ now, Dutch style will be like having a mike tyson like fighter with good kicks, and jp style is having a Muhhamad ali like fighter that knows ho to kick.

Dutch kickboxing is a mix from a full contact karate style and muay Thai. Then they changed it into a great own style. It is our own style

Honest man

Came from Greece and Rome and every other group of people that had to fight to survive war.

hey harry..greets rene

Isn't Dutch Kickboxing like 60% Muay Thai, 30% Boxing and only like 10% Kyokushin?

@bloodoftheunicorns2621

9 ай бұрын

How did you arrive at these percentages? If you remove the uniform of the kyokushin karate, could you tell the difference between him and the Muay Thai fighter?

@mikhailvasiliev6275

9 ай бұрын

@@bloodoftheunicorns2621 I don't think anyone can deny Dutch is majority Thai, hence 60%. More advanced upper body striking in exchange for tossing elbows justifies 30% boxing. And 10% Kyokushin because honest to God, show me the Kyokushin in Dutch Style because I don't see it.

@bloodoftheunicorns2621

9 ай бұрын

@@mikhailvasiliev6275 Kyokushin focus on powerful blows in order to inflict as much damage as possible. They are specialists in close range combat and proper to take an attack then counterattack, they don’t like to give ground. They also got really good at throwing head kicks from in the pocket, as well as throwing kicks without turning their hips. The main weaknesses of this style is no punches to the head, only to the body. No punches to the head also means no head defense. Now just add Boxing and some cross training/fighting with Muay Thai and you’ll get Dutch kickboxing.

@mikhailvasiliev6275

9 ай бұрын

@@bloodoftheunicorns2621 I see. To answer your previous question, yes I could tell the difference because Kyokushin fighters have a very square stance and have no concept of working angles.

@whiteflame24

9 ай бұрын

@@mikhailvasiliev6275 It's not pure traditionalist Kyokushin. It's Japanese Kickboxing which was Kyokushin style kicks mixed with boxing combinations and eventually integrating the thai low kick. If you look at what Japanese kickboxing was in the late 80s and 90s you can clearly see the heavy influence in the Dutch style.

Kyokushin + boxe

Mas Oyama was ethnically korean

Kyoukushinaki with gloves?

It's really from Thailand. The gym in Japan was born from a foreigner Muay Thai fighter

@Buli0n

7 ай бұрын

No, it wasn’t. It was born in times when Kyokushin was still relevant.

@99loops

7 ай бұрын

kyokushin karate is okinawan

@Buli0n

7 ай бұрын

@@99loops lol? It is not! It’s a next step in japanese mainland karate after shotokan.

@Buli0n

7 ай бұрын

@@99loops kyokushin is mostly korean

Nice story bro

@MrTheil

Ай бұрын

History says otherwise

Dutch kickboxing is Muay Thai and Boxing in one!

@kesenaememere8520

6 ай бұрын

No it's Kyokushin and Boxing they went Japan to learn it not Thailand.

While i also think the French deserve as little credit as possible, it is a bit more complex than that.

So dutch kickboxing is more like kickboxing with more emphasis on punching and more aggresive

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Dutch style !!!

story i heard, dutch karata players go there for tourment but wasent same karate they learend and got disquilifed on tourment rules came back and started dutch k1 with there own rulees always like this story u learn fighting style but not same style ,ppl think martiale arts are joke some are but some are very very very real and well trained unarmed person kan kill some with kick or a punch

I only say this name Tom Harinck

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Muay Thai is the real thing,thanks to the diamond it became popular outside of Thailand

i dont see the difference between thai boxing and dutch kick boxing , except dutch uses more hands

OSU to all the Kyokushin people

Kickboxing are very different of Muay Thai the Footwork are different, Defense are Different, Skills are Different look at Adesanya and Buakaw their styles are totally different.

BJJ (Brazilian) jujutsu (Japanese)

@fteambjj

26 күн бұрын

Its the same bro. Jujutsu is the real name. Brazilians just marketed it. They didnt add sht to it or evolved it. The japanese jujutsu had all the moves already. Brazilians just went around using jj to beat people up and sell the martial arts

Japan has made some of the most successful fighting styles in history. How come they aren’t UFC champs?

@arun455

8 ай бұрын

I don't know about other sports, but you get banned from judo if you go into mma. From what i know, mixing is frowned upon.

@uncletheoneshotkid3001

7 ай бұрын

@@arun455yup this is exactly it. Japanese athletes are usually restricted to one sport and even then, if they leave the country to compete elsewhere it causes problems too. I think Tenshin Nasukawa had to switch to boxing fully bc he had to choose between kickboxing and boxing and he wanted to be a boxer instead

@honigdachs.

7 ай бұрын

Because the UFC isn't the end all, be all like Dana White and Joe Rogan would have you think.

@TheNEOverse

7 ай бұрын

Varying reasons, most commonly that travel is a hassle for them. That's said, watch out for Tatsuo Taira.

I would love to meet the reem

facts

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That's because in Britain before boxing became commercial it was all bare knuckle boxing and as u hear its all good till u get punched in face

👏👏

🥳 Rico Verhoeven is the man in this sport! 🥳

No one talks about box kicking.

that's definitely not how "kickboxing" got started, unless he's only referring to the Dutch style.

all MA and fighting styles are refined into different art forms them all come from hurting someone with whatever you can. and then applying rules. This is not a country thing, this is a trial and error thing. You thing no-one grappled before wrestling, no one punched before boxing, no one kicked before.... Just enjoy the arts you use.

PanCrase that utilizes all of these started in ancient Greece. It's the first model of MMA

Yeah but Japanese Karate got it's high kicks from Savate. So Dutch kickboxing also comes from France.

mother of all martial arts kalripayt

Yep ??

Finally someone knows what to talk about😂

They mean the style with Dutch kickboxing, Same as France kickboxing... Of course is it a mix of ohter combat sports. Other word for kickboxing is mix fight.

Its thai and Japan en the Dutch made it perfect and created thier own style . thats why a lot of kickboxers come to Holland to learn. becouse the dutch became the best at the sport.

@user-pd9ju5dk5s

8 ай бұрын

Made it perfect? What? 🤣 Muay thai is way more complete than Dutch kickboxing

@daniellekkerbelangrijk3958

8 ай бұрын

@@user-pd9ju5dk5s oke explane me why the dutch are one of the best Dutch kickboxers then and not the Thai

@kesenaememere8520

6 ай бұрын

​@@user-pd9ju5dk5s Muay Thai ain't perfect either.

@Speedofdark339

5 ай бұрын

Lolz​@@user-pd9ju5dk5s

He's not wrong, almost everything we see in kickboxing or MMA comes from traditional martial Arts.

Bjj, brazilian jiu jitsu from Japan?😂

@kesenaememere8520

6 ай бұрын

Jiu jitsu is from the Japan. Japanese Jiu jitsu you should know that.

Japan the Birth of Kickboxing, Jiu Jitsu and Boxing it's Greek look Wrestling are Greek too.

And Japan took it from Thailand, Muay Thai

BJJ and Japanese Jiu Jitsu....."We changed a liittle bit" Ähhhhmmmmmmm......ok? :D Day and night?

Kickboxing was invented to defeat Muay Thai fighters

Can’t believe Brazilian jiu jitsu came from japan

@korallrev3497

10 ай бұрын

it did, Brazil has alot of Japanese people who took Judo and Japanese Jiu Jiutsu and that evolved to BJJ. Learn your history

@henryposadas3309

10 ай бұрын

Maeda the instructor of Gracie was Kodokan Judo. Bjj is Judo. Sambo is Kodokan Judo mixed with several wrestling styles, boxing and kickboxing.

@lepatate3457

9 ай бұрын

Jiujitsu is a Japanese word 😂

@korallrev3497

9 ай бұрын

@@lepatate3457 this guy dont know what he is talking about haha his comment backfired so hard

@user-pd9ju5dk5s

8 ай бұрын

😅The word jiu jitsu is literally Japanese, ya dolt

It’s the weird love child of kyukoshin and muay thai

Nobody ever thought kickboxing is from the Netherlands

@tom02061997

8 ай бұрын

Bro dutch kickboxing is one of the 2 major styles next to thai

@SuacoRV

8 ай бұрын

@@tom02061997 Yes its a style and its always been promoted as the Dutch style. I never once heard anyone say kickboxing comes from here. (the netherlands)

@M4ruta

7 ай бұрын

It's about the difference between 'kickboxing' and 'Dutch kickboxing', with the latter being considered a subset of the former.

@KingEzekio

7 ай бұрын

I did…

Um, ok? I thought Dutch Kickboxing comes from Muay Thai? The Muay Mat style fighter in Muay Thai uses heavy punch combinations and leg kicks. What does that sound like? DUTCH KICKBOXING.

@kesenaememere8520

6 ай бұрын

Nope.

Secrets of dutch, no dutch in it...

BJJ is from Brazil is it not?

@awnzotheman

27 күн бұрын

Yes, everyone knows that... but it all originated from japan.

dutch kickboxing further developed in the Netherlands from karate . So WHAT ..|? if you think further , karate from china , shaolin from india , Kalaripayattu has his roots greece .

@henryposadas3309

10 ай бұрын

Why so what? If you are interested in history this is correct info. Same as Karate comming from Kung fu (mixed with Okinawan Tode), and Kung fu being influenced by Indian Martial arts. He was merely correcting historical misconception and you added info. Kind of stupid to critizise and ask why.

Most karate comes from kung Fu, and I heard that most kung fu comes from an old Indian martial art

After a certain point you have to wonder what the hell were the Japanese fighting? Most cultures have one or two martial arts, one or two legendary militaries. Japan has Karate, Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, then is known for Samurai, Ninjas and Kamikaze pilots. Tf were they prepping for?

Karate come in part from french boxing

And

Basically taking a sold base yet outdated style and made it dangerous.

japanese jiu jitsu came from japan, that came to brazil, so basically... its pretty obvious.

They actually have their roots in India. Thai boxing did not come from Japan! Hence the name Thai kickboxing, better yet Muay Thai

Karate kicks come from savate, no ?

Umm...Muay Thai?