As an 81 year old Army vet, I never tire of hearing how the Allies won the Big One, and no one tells those stories better than Victor Davis Hanson. I minored in history at college, and never had a professor as interesting as Professor Hanson. Too bad. I might have paid more attention.

@Music-lx1tf

Жыл бұрын

We did our part but if you wanna know who really won the second World War? It was the Russians.

@whatsyurprob158

Жыл бұрын

I'm learned, and I salute you 😘 🇺🇸

@jimrobcoyle

11 ай бұрын

Yes,we did assist Russia in that Victory.

@cosmiccowboyfg300

9 ай бұрын

​@@jimrobcoyleand, we sent millions of LendLease dollars to a thoroughly corrupt Stalin who had killed millions of his citizens. That didn't bother us in WWII. Stalin was a necessary compromise to beat the Nazis. Putin invaded Ulraine under false pretenses in 14', and in 22'. We may not approve of Zelensky's corruption, which we shouldn't, but we can't let Putin start a an illegal war without there being consequences.

@SeattlePioneer

9 ай бұрын

Which victory? The victory over Japan? The USSR did make war on Japan ---aft6er one atomic bomb had already been dropped. And Russia entry into that war was significant in convincing the Japanese emperor to surrender. So yes, I'd call that an assist. As a Stalinist yourself, I'm sure you are aware that the USSR became an ally of Germany in 1939 and helped attack and dismember Poland. Stalin certainly hoped for war, and hoped that Europe would beat itself to exhaustion as in WWI ---and then he anticipated sweeping in and grabbing up everything with a minimum of losses. Imagine Stalin's horror when France folded and he found himself alone with Hitler! When Hitler attacked USSR, Stalin no longer had the luxury of standing back, he had to beat a stupefying effort out of his people, and needed all the supplies and armaments he could get for free from the United States and Britain. So in the end, it was the United States that swept in at the end and grabbed up most of the marbles with a minimum losses --- the strategy Stalin WANTED but didn't get. And meanwhile the United States fought the Japanese to the point of defeat largely on it's own, while the USSR was NEUTRAL for most of the war. I give Stalin credit for FLOGGING a stupefying war making effort out of his population. But it's very likely that the massive aid of the United States and Britain prevented the military collapse of the USSR. But go right ahead and keep polishing the behavior of Staling, the bloodiest dictator of the 20th century, and that includes Hitler. The only thing I'd say about Stalin is that he was a SOB like Hitler, but he was OUR SOB.

Listening to one of Dr. Hansen's rich lectures is like taking a world-class college course without the indoctrination and revisionist bologna. Thank You!

@EricB1

3 жыл бұрын

It actually is a course: online.hillsdale.edu/landing/the-second-world-wars

@teedepefanio5687

3 жыл бұрын

Well said... whoever said "lies" is an idiot.. it already happened, literally and exactly, in this fashion.

@michaelmakowsky2670

3 жыл бұрын

@Min Tin?

@michaelmakowsky2670

3 жыл бұрын

@Min Tin qq

@geralddinallo4188

3 жыл бұрын

Ted rue 9 8 2020

VDH is a national treasure. I enjoy listening to his vast knowledge on WW2

@johnburns4017

3 жыл бұрын

A treasure made with fools gold. :)

@r.williamcomm7693

3 жыл бұрын

Agree 100%. A truly great man in a world that’s been so long w/out greatness that it’s no longer recognized nor appreciated.

@graham6132

2 жыл бұрын

He’s racist

@susanmehler5214

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@danielhagan921

2 жыл бұрын

Not so, JB, he's SOLID GOLD!

Thank you Hillsdale College for bringing Victor D Hansen to all if us. God bless you for this great service to America. This teaching should be required for every American citizen, with a comprehensive test after watching. I know the Chinese are also paykng attention to this man's teaching.

@curtflory7147

4 ай бұрын

I agree! The horrifying issue is that now the US has outsourced much of it's manufacturing to China, so if we did have another WW, who would be able to switch their manufacturing over to build war machines. AND, most, if not all, our iron foundries are shut down; same, outsourced. We have put ourselves in a VERY bad place, and act as if the last WW will be the last forever, so why be prepared for another? This seems to play into the same sort of mindset that Germany and Italy had with Naval power. God help us!

I don't think we could do something like that again. One thing he touched on was that every time we took an island we had an aircraft carrier for land based aircraft which had larger fuel capacities. One helluva an effort and Thank You Dear God for my parents being of that Finest Generation. I could not have asked for better!

Truly Magnificent! I could listen to Victor Davis Hansen all day.

@w8stral

4 жыл бұрын

If only his facts were correct..... He did get the main points correct even if his specifics were woefully incorrect.

@BJETNT

4 жыл бұрын

I like your comment! It's nice to see someone else that's greatfull for the video and not just bashing on it. Nothing but classy 👌

@kevinlwiltfong7941

4 жыл бұрын

w8stral what did Victor state incorrectly?

@NathanJennings1222

4 жыл бұрын

Hansen is both incredibly knowledgeable and an eloquent speaker. A truly refined academic.

@kathycaldwell7126

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. Hansen is an outstanding scholar.

Victor Davis Hanson is a national treasure. If students are serious about education U Tube videos such as this will wreck the college education system. We need to have face to face instruction or say goodbye to colleges and universities.

I took the course on WW2 offered by Hillsdale College online. Dr. Hanson was the instructor for the entirety. I HIGHLY recommend it.

I just love his lectures and speeches. They all give a sense of calm, reasoning and reflection during this chaotic time.

@rachelbuckner3786

6 ай бұрын

Love dr Hanson. So glad to find his lectures. He has an amazing memory to explain all those details.

So comprehensive and clear as to be almost simplistic. At the same time I learned concepts I never considered before. Time well spent.

@trashpanda314

4 жыл бұрын

Amazing the information he has retained and can communicate so effectively. Much prefer this style presentation, rather than the jazzed up tv crap.

@hughcards

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts are exactly. .

Most insightful person I have heard. If only all who love this country could hear him before this critical election.

And... This stuff is free. Its. Free. Free college classes on KZread for everyone.

@cfneal1459

3 жыл бұрын

God bless America! God bless the Internet! Ahhh --- God bless us one & all! wwg1wga

@frankpaya690

3 жыл бұрын

A free education Problem with education is so many people don't know what they want to do, they are expecting an educator to tell them what they're supposed to do.so they wouldn't know what to do with a free education if it was all there for the taking.

@cfneal1459

3 жыл бұрын

@@frankpaya690 I think maybe you're confusing "free education" with "free schooling"'; one a life-long choice of experiences, the other a SYSTEM of indoctrination. j/s

@joesragman8717

3 жыл бұрын

But will anyone truly listen and reflect on such wisdom?

Just knowledge with no hype so refreshing. Keep it coming Victor we need to be educated.

VDH is the greatest living classicist and historian, bar none

@genesisplus4325

4 жыл бұрын

you make him sound like a tape media recording device, just say victor.

@virgorising7388

4 жыл бұрын

He is that, for sure. He locks into a dimension of one subject (WWII in this case) and draws you in until you understand that dimension and how it is linked to every other aspect of that history. VDH has opened my eyes to a whole new world of naval achievement. He's the modern day Patrick O'Brien with his in-depth knowledge of naval warfare, and just as entertaining.

@w8stral

4 жыл бұрын

Well, the "greatest" I would assume would get their facts correct....

@kevinlwiltfong7941

4 жыл бұрын

w8stral you make aspersions without providing evidence. Typical of a shallow thinker who only knows how to complain.

@w8stral

4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinlwiltfong7941 No, I am not going to write a treatise on youtube. Let me regurgitate; He got the main themes right but ruins it by stating completely incorrect specifics.

Riveting ...this is beyond BRILLIANT. Thank you VDH.

My late father would have absolutely loved these lectures. They're terrific and brilliantly conveyed by Dr. Hanson. Thank you Sir.

Victor Davis Hanson is one of the most important individuals to grace our country

I've read more about WWII then I can remember. But, I've never heard such effective lectures arguing how the allies were able to use air/navel power against the axis. Awesome.

@shanemedlin9400

4 жыл бұрын

May I enquire your age?

@6handicap604

3 жыл бұрын

@Min Tin Then let Japan or Germany tell us how they won the war.

@6handicap604

3 жыл бұрын

@Min Tin That is one take on it. But who rebuilt japan and Germany after WWII? Ever hear of the Marshall plan? Did England lose it's colonies? Yes, a changing world, especially after the war. Fact of history, England was powerful enough to claim colonies in the 17 & 1800's but was not powerful enough to protect them in a world war. Why did England go bankrupt? Was it the war, was it the loss of colonies? Or was it that for some inexplicable reason, after fighting National Socialism for 5 years, England went socialist. They nationalized nearly all of their energy and industrial production. After WWII, there were basically only 2 industrialized powers left, Britain and the U.S. The rest of the world was clamoring for industrial goods in order to re-build. England priced themselves out of that boom, so went broke. The U.S. financed most of the Allies during WWII, and paid those debts off within 10 years, by suppling the world with goods. All depends on one's perspective and understanding of economics.

@6handicap604

3 жыл бұрын

@Min Tin Yes, I read books, a lot of books, of many different perspectives. This is how I learn and expand my mind, as do early everyone in the world. So this brings us to the penultimate question, how do you gain your knowledge? Stories your grandfather told? Old wives tales? Speaking of British tea, do you read the leaves in the bottom of the cup? Where do you get the information to formulate or change your opinion? Sheep sheeple? So where do you get YOUR sheep sheeple? The back of a cereal box?

@teedepefanio5687

3 жыл бұрын

@@6handicap604 well said, sir.. former sailor, here.. followed in my grandpas footsteps.. a WWII guy. If he were still here, he'd applaud you, as I'm doing this very moment. Thank you, good sir, for your comprehensive response to this malignant tumor of a person, who keeps trolling all the posts of the good doctor. Gratitude..

VDH makes history come alive. And old trope, but wow, I wish he'd been my history teacher. I'd still be there waiting for next pearl to drop.

I have loved history all my life, and other than cowboys and gangsters World War II is the first topic I really studied as a boy. Despite this I can’t remember ever hearing someone have such an interesting prospective on the war. This is why they say hindsight is 20/20

This guy could read the phone book and I'd still be captivated. What's more he could probably do it by memory...

VDH routinely gives hour+ long talks that include specific dates and other often obscure details without so much as an index card of notes. Amazing.

He is a national treasure.

How does this man do this? I could listen to him speak for hours on end.

@soapbxprod

3 жыл бұрын

He is truly remarkable!

@davidsigalow7349

8 ай бұрын

I once had the pleasure of hearing him extemporize for 90 minutes about the Persian invasions of Greece. It was amazing.

VDH is the reason I subscribe to KZread

@evelynsiegrist8311

Ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!

Victor, I enjoy your work. I was surprised you did not mention Alexander de Seversky's influence on US doctrine regarding the essentiality of air power in the conduct of naval warfare. It was mandatory reading for me when I attended Command & Staff College many years ago and left an indelible mark on my consciousness which served me well when in a senior, influential staff position dealing with combat development. If you have the time I recommend you "paddle" in that pond. I think you would enjoy it immensely. All the very best. Keep up the good work.

@fartface5172

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any other books you'd recommend?

@kevinloughrey5135

3 жыл бұрын

@@fartface5172 yes but it may not suit you if you have little interest in Anglo-centric history. Another book which left a lasting impression on me was by Brigadier Simpson on the fall of Singapore. Simpson was sent by Churchill to strengthen the defences of the island but Perceival interfered with this work at every opportunity.

What a joy to listen to! My grandfather was on one of the Essex class carriers (USS Bennington) during the war.

@trashpanda314

4 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Just thought I'd chime in that I lost my great grandfather on the USS Ticonderoga. He was killed in action by a kamikaze attack, awarded the Silver Star, and subsequently buried at sea.

@bearowen5480

Жыл бұрын

@@trashpanda314 Since WWII, enlisting in and serving aboard ship in the US Navy has been a vastly safer choice in terms of life and limb than the Marines or the Army. This is because of the modern naval supremacy that Dr. Hansen speaks of. Today, however, we too often forget that this was not the case in WWII where the suicidally human-piloted Kamikaze missile too often turned our ships into flaming floating coffins. Let us never forget the incredible sacrifices that were made by US Navy Sailors and Merchant Mariners in the Pacific War. God bless your great grandfather who courageously lost his life in the Naval Service. His sacrifice was not made in vain.

@rodritchison1995

Жыл бұрын

My Uncle Tom was one of the last fixed wing, enlisted pilots in the US Navy. He flew anti-submarine patrols off the Bennington in the early 1960s? One fine golfer, which figures. "Drive for show and putt for dough." Irritated the be jesus out of my dad, who could drive 270 yards into a stiff breeze.

@williamkennedy3837

Жыл бұрын

My dad was on the water Dec 7 1941 in a 40 ft launch. We stand on the sholders of giants. I thank the heros.

Love these short overviews with VDH.

This Gentleman needs to be the key advisor to every president. He looks at the whole picture, and why, this will work, or why it won't work... Such Brilliance needs to be taken advantage of.

As a 73 year old baby boomer history and political science major I am awed when I listen to lectures of V.D.H. and his bringing of the information dealing with WW2. It makes me to want to get back in the classroom. Today very few institutions provide this quality of information.I wish I could be closer to this school so I could take advantage of all this information. I am further hampered by my relapsed MS. Victor keep us this 🇺🇸✝️excellent work. I really enjoy your programs.

I learn so much from y’all! Thank you, I graduated college in 1971 and WWII was not really covered by our history professors and teachers although I’m sure most of them were vets. I always felt a deficiency in the events of the first 50 years of the 20th century

@keithadams812

Жыл бұрын

I graduated in 1986 and ww2 and the civil war were the 2 main topics in my America history

I am watching the series in order. I have watched almost every other WW2 series on KZread, and this one with David is looking to be very educational. Seen some stuff I haven't on other videos...

Wonderful series. Please keep this up!

This man should be governor of California

@johnburns4017

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a war on there?

@downeybill

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnburns4017 yes, as a matter of a fact, there is!

@johnburns4017

3 жыл бұрын

@@downeybill I hope he loses that war.

@joesragman8717

3 жыл бұрын

He'd get my vote!

@johnburns4017

3 жыл бұрын

@@joesragman8717 You like wars?

I thought I had researched and learned virtually everything about WWII, but alas Mr. Hanson has enlightened me. What a clear and concise presentation.

Oh yes yes yes!!! I've been waiting for another episode. Awesome! Thanks HC and thanks Mr. Hanson!

He is a marvellous person really enjoy his lectures and discussions

A generational talent with unmatched knowledge. Well done

I'm literally too poor to afford the full course so I greatly appreciate you for uploading these clips. Absolutely love VDH, we need more even tempered men like him in politics, me thinks.

@XBadger1

4 жыл бұрын

If you go to the hillsdale college website they are offering the entire series for free. Not sure if you get this message but if you do the rest are great too

I especially like listening to your podcasts. I can work in my yard and listen to your words of wisdom for an hour at a time. Just discovered the VDH KZread channel. Now I can listen to your KZread Channel Shows too. 36 year retired professional Fire Captain. Thank you VDH!

Excellent video. looking forward to watching more of them. Subscribed and upvoted.

Thank you VDH. I had no idea how much indoctrination masked as education I received in school until i discovered this man.

@ned900

5 жыл бұрын

Where are you from? What country, wondering, that has such a bad history curriculum. Also, I guess, and this is more of an observation, there is a glut of historical material on the internet, for anyone to see and to study. Maybe kids are unaware of this... I don't think school curriculum's can compete with the net anymore.

@howardcurtiss5048

4 жыл бұрын

Persian5life, may I suggest you seek a refund of any tuition if you received an indoctrination rather than an education.

@atlas42185

4 жыл бұрын

This is moreso a problem at particular universities or particular departments/schools w/in universities. I'm currently taking a Transnational Mass Communication class (liberal arts elective) which covers surprisingly few practicals of communications and focuses largely on leftist philosophy works. To the credit of my professor he's relatively nuanced. When you get into the business school and engineering school everything is super practical. Everyone (professors and students) is a lot more reasonable than some of these political commentators would have you believe. College has been a great experience for me. I've made a lot of friendships w/ people who conservative anti-intellectuals write off. Being able to form friendships with such people is a strength not a weakness. Plus it really only relies on empathy, level headedness, and unconditional respect. Nothing defuses a tense situation faster than being a stoic in the face of hostility. You will get so much respect if you are willing to learn, back up your opinions with quantitative logic, and don't embarrass people when you "win" arguments. Smugness in politics is such a counter productive quality. At the end of the day academia is still very intellectually rigorous. Equating school with indoctrination is not only an overstatement of the dogmatism in some disciplines, but paints an incomplete picture. The biggest the holy land of indoctrination is the American household. Your professor is more likely to teach you to think critically than the average parent is.

Possibly the greatest video on KZread.

Such a wonderful man to listen to. I would agree with many others that was a wonderful lecture. If we only had men like this as politicians.

Fascinating - I have watched & listened to so many versions of Midway but never really anything on the big picture planning strategy and outlook which is covered here so well by VDH.

@SeattlePioneer

9 ай бұрын

What is described but not given enough credits was the ability of Roosevelt, the American economy and the American people to crank out a stupefying amount of food, munitions, ships, aircraft and fighting men to fight two major wars on opposite sides of the earth and win BOTH of them with our allies. Stalin FLOGGED a war winning effort out of his population, while Roosevelt bought it by paying time and a half and double time for the efforts of the American people and business.

Loved him and Christopher Hitchens talk on how moral and important WW2 was on the campus of Stanford about 15 years ago.

@doctorcrafts

Жыл бұрын

Huh?

@mattstakeontheancients7594

Жыл бұрын

@@doctorcrafts basically had Victor and Christopher talk about Pat Buchanan’s book stating that we shouldn’t have dropped the atomic bomb. Imagine an atheist and Victor disagree on many things but we’re in agreement that doing so saved many more lives than took as the Japanese would have fought and possibly lost a million people while the US would have lost at least 500k if not more. It’s on KZread

Very informative and enjoyable. Thankyou!

This was an excellent lecture. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Is raises a question within me though. If there were a non-nuclear WWIII would be fighting our neighbors on the streets as well as our enemies abroad? We all see so divided in our current time, and it seems like some think national and cultural pride is something to be despised. God bless the Greatest Generation for keeping us free. Forgive us for giving it away.

@cfneal1459

3 жыл бұрын

We ain't "giving it away" NO MORE! #MAGA

This is such a fantastic series! I am learning so much!

@Frip36

4 жыл бұрын

you'll forget it all by morning with your drinking

These are awesome, thank you for posting

Really great to listen to. Having thoroughly learned quite a lot of a combination of the general history as well as the battle history of WW2 in the African, European, and Pacific theaters, it's really refreshing to listen to someone who has such a detailed perspective that he can combine them to make extremely refined conclusions to the why and how of it all. Hansen seems to be a sort of gateway into (for lack of a better term) a post-modern history of WW2. Delightful. Thanks, Professor!

Must watch again!!!

superb lectures - thank you

Just amazing analysis, I’ve never heard better.

The algorithms hit on something very worthwhile, a rarity for KZread. Thank you. I am subscribing.

Please publish the next in the series: the campaign on the ground, as Mr. Hanson spoke of.

Just fantastic to watch.

At 12.20 the US started the war with FOUR carriers in the Pacific. "Yorktown" is forgotten. And there was also "Langley" in the Filipine squadron.

@nomdeguerre7265

Жыл бұрын

Most forget the Langley, and justifiably so. It wasn’t as capable as even the most modest Japanese light carrier or USN CVE.

@TomFynn

11 ай бұрын

And Yorktown was in the Atlantic.

a truly nice lecture!!!

Wow perfect lecture!

VDH does it again with this video. Kudos Professore!

MORE VICTOR DAVIS HANSEN VIDEOS!!!!

@EllieMaes-Grandad

Жыл бұрын

Hanson !!!

So well done Thank You

Great work dr.

Thanks for sharing ♥️

VDH is a national treasure!

Professor Hansen is great!

Great companion resource to the book.

Thanks Mr. Hanson

Wonderful data! Fits well into the accuracy of our current state of affairs! Thy question is what role is /did “ Agricultural Instability?” Great Data! Thank you! It’s time to Collectively Re Capitalize the Agricultural Industry. Shine Bright! MWM

Great lecture.

Superb. Thank you.

Interesting and thank you.

Thank you. You did a great job summarizing the content of Morrison's 18. Volumes "the history of naval operations in world war II" into 45 minutes. In doing so you clearly articulated both sides strategies and problems, which wasn't clouded by the enormous details. I don't think Harvard historian Admiral Morrison did this anywhere in his seminal work. Or in his one volume summary " the two ocean war." I don't think Churchill did it either. Well done. And thank you.

These are great!

Great speaker and keeps you on the egde of your seat.

These are awesome lectures. Where’s his video on “Earth” I can only find water and air in world war 2?

A clarification... the 16" Mark 7 gun fired shells ranging in weight from 2200-3000 pounds. They were 16" in diameter. Not the size of a VW Bug, but the weight of one. Great talk about the concepts and practice of naval supremacy.

@bighands69

2 жыл бұрын

The gun would be longer than a VW bug.

@SeattlePioneer

9 ай бұрын

Accelerated faster, too!

Its far too easy to forget the magnificent effort provided by the RCN who provided 45% of the convoy escorts with the RN the balance

Honestly, if you could make more victor hansons and dan carlins more people would appreciate history

5:58 Question: So there were international agreements on the size of naval ships and weapons?

Calm Stoic thoughtful. Thank god

What a great story/fact teller. So enjoyed this lecture and the one on Air. Could not find the one about Land that he mentions at the end.Too bad. Might just pick up the book on Audible. Great stuff. Also like his videos on politics. Mainly those on Donald Trump.

i just love his stuff, give me more Swede. 4 x 105 =

where was this filmed? the room is incredible.

@6handicap604

4 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere it was filmed at Hillsdale college, they set it up with a WW!! atmosphere, note the map, posters, typewriter and lighting. Very cool. I cannot verify this but I did read it somewhere.

Just found very well done! Please explain superiority versus supremacy , thank you

@ajalvarez3111

Жыл бұрын

He explains the difference very well in the “Air” episode.

he spoke of the massive amount of Greek academia he mandatorily took for university in one of his lectures. I got dizzy just hearing how intensive the requirements were!

All correct. Much of this is taught in Herman Wouk's "War and Remembrance"

where is the ground lecture?

Makes quarantines fun

I think VDH would make a GREATly needed smart and honest politician!

@nomdeguerre7265

Жыл бұрын

None ever believe Cassandra until too late.

really great account.

Taylor ... how'd you get the Mallard place?

Is the next episode of this on youtube?

@cloudrun654

4 жыл бұрын

Went onto the HIllsdale site and watched all 7 episodes. Wow, that was epic! Thank you, Hillsdale.

Are we going to get a land campaign? I've been waiting months

@157dixon

4 жыл бұрын

Watch his speech on Patton

Correction: the 1942 Fletcher class DD has 5" I served on the last cruse of the Fletcher in the late 68/69 Vietnam era.

Back in the 60s my grandfather took me over to Salem MA. to tour an old WW2 sub named the Sea Dog. It was quite a small area inside. Not good for the claustrophobic.

I am so proud to be the father of 3 sons who became leaders in their fields after attending Hillsdale,oddly enough our 4th son who chose to attend a union commercial & industrial construction trade school over college began earning $60k his 1st year in trade school and jumped to $150k a year after graduating as a Journeyman Architectural Tin Smith ,he has increased in earnings every year where in 2019 he nearly hit $250k for the year after saftey & production bonuses .

@darbyohara

Жыл бұрын

Going into the trades today is more financially advantageous than college by far.

@doctorcrafts

Жыл бұрын

False

@donf3877

Жыл бұрын

@@darbyohara A friend here in Florida's central AC went out. The guy that the home insurance sent out was 28 years old. He owns his own business, and makes over $250,000 a year all by himself. He said he's love to have help, but young adults now days don't want to WORK for a living!!!

Thank you - I wonder how this wisdom is being applied today with aircraft carriers and even submarines being so popular and with data and drones and space tech being ascendant - I know - If I see this military strategists saw it ages ago - but I wonder what the new known unknowns could be

@judd0112

2 жыл бұрын

It’s the UAP’s that the fighter jets chased and got on video. Multiple times. And everyone says it’s gotta be ufos cause we don’t have technology or able to withstand the high G forces that they are exhibiting. And the military’s answer was that they didn’t know what they were. The exact answer I thought they would say. And all these people are believing the pentagon(military) so they are figuring it has to be aliens if the technology is something we don’t have “yet”. Supposedly And they are believing that. Oh the govt wouldn’t lie to us about stuff they say. Obviously they don’t know how too secret military programs work. Think of it this way. In the early 1960’s we had the SR-71 which was totally too secret and if someone got a photo of it or something u know the project blue book would come and “investigate” and confiscate pics if by chance they were of the blackbird or something. That’s what happens. So in the 1960’sbthe blackbird flew 2200 mph +/- that’s faster than a rifle bullet. And all the speed records for aircraft were established in secret during its flights. That was 60+ years ago. People can’t even imagine the technology that we have and are hopefully hiding like a ace in the hole incase we ever need it. If they don’t know about it then they can’t make a defense for it. The whole point of defense is keeping your best weapons secret. So there have been glimpses of anomalies on satellite pictures or just lucky photos that unintentionally cause something like the contrail that a jet would produce was caught on a weather satellite extending from (I’m estimating) southern Chile Patagonia area extending all the way to the US southern border. In one shot. So a con-trail typically would last before it dissipates (estimated) 10-15 min +/- and the trail extended that length, some math guy did the calculations and it came out to some incredible ludicrous speed to leave a trail that far and have still there Anyway sorry for a long comment nice to see someone interested in similar idea/theories.

Grandad used to talk about the (un)happy time, sailing in the Esso fleet. Simply standing out from Bayonne was dangerous. Early on he used to say that making Halifax where the Canadians would take over convoy protection was the goal. But most don't realize what a shooting gallery our coastal waters were in 1942.

@johnburns4017

3 жыл бұрын

Blame that idiot Admiral King. The British insisted the US take 25 corvettes complete with crews.

@samueladams3746

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnburns4017 We had to learn the hard way. Cost a lot of merchant seamen their lives. When in London usually stay right across from the British Merchant Marine memorial. Stop after morning walk to straighten up the wreaths and crosses placed by descendants. At least they remember.

@johnburns4017

3 жыл бұрын

@@samueladams3746 The USA did learn the hard way, unnecessarily so when all they had to do was do what the British told them. US top brass was full of buffoonery. King despised the British over an incident in WW1 when he disobeyed orders. He was carpeted by the British commander of a group of which his ship was a part. Even then he never liked taking orders. King was a buffoon, who should have been removed in 1942. In the first six months of WW2 600 vessels were sunk off the US eastern seaboard. After U-Boat losses in 1941 had dropped to manageable levels, with the USA entry in to the war they were now catastrophic, to the point the US fighting Germany was in question. This was because King would not _lower_ US ships to escort civilian convoys, viewing they only fought military ships. The Americans would not even implement blackouts of coastal cities. The British were very concerned at the dramatic allied shipping losses. The British viewed the Americans as _our Italians._ The British insisted the Americans take 25 corvettes, with crews, the losses were so high. Eisenhower said the best way to win the war was to kill Admiral King. If such a British commander was so inept he would have been removed for ever. For some strange reason the US never removed their top men no matter how poor they were - Eisenhower should have been removed over the Bulge debacle. King and other Americans were of the view they would not support the British in WW2, if it liberated territory of the British Empire, putting the British back in charge. This was none of their concern as the focus was to defeat the Germans and Japanese. The British did not insist the USA return territory stolen from Native Americans and the Mexicans.

@nomdeguerre7265

Жыл бұрын

@@johnburns4017 You’re far to harsh about King. But his anti-British prejudices did not well serve our interests in the early days of our involvement in the Atlantic. That’s absolutely true.

@johnburns4017

Жыл бұрын

@@nomdeguerre7265 I pulled punches on King.