Scions are essentially Astartes without augmentations

Fucking A+ lore vid Border Prince and Baldemort are the absolute precipice of WH lore

@kennyholmes6642

25 күн бұрын

I can't even listen to anyone else other then A.B.P. They just do not have the passion.

Seriously, Prince…you are one of few bright lights in the 40K Lore community on KZread

You listen to things like this and have to wonder how Ciaphas Cain, HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!! turned out so relatively sane and easy going.

@SebastianA.W.

2 жыл бұрын

He is good at rolling with the flow of things...

@goawayihavecommentstomake1488

Жыл бұрын

The Emperor himself noticed him one day and thought “Holy Shite! A promising Commissar who isn’t a complete asshole? A guy who actually has a conscience and tries to keep his subordinates alive?! I’m gonna keep an eye on this kid, maybe bend things his way now and then, and things might actually get better for my damned Imperium!” …And thus, Cain’s amazing personal luck 🍀 bloomed, putting him in in all the wrong places at the right times and helping him achieve unlikely victories over substantial odds.

So many nooks and crannies like this in warhammer lore, pretty much all have been neglected thanks for sharing a bit of light on this deserving info

@brianjohnson5272

2 жыл бұрын

Shhhhhh! or GW will fuk it up.

This guy ladies and gentlemen... This grim dark guy...

tempestus scions. Because Greedy Workshop found out you can't trademark common historical terms like storm troopers.

Tempestus Scion soldier: Brags he can wear his masked helmet for days. Death Corp of Krieg Private: hold my beer Sir

@evanceier8577

2 жыл бұрын

Hold my nutrient tube

Cadet sleeping very deeply into his 6th dream slight mutters; "oh yeah baby, just like that, yes, you're so good at it..." Servo skull immediately frowns, turns red and starts blaring codes and alarms

Didn't know much about the scions. Well done! I'll have a beer to your work! Cheers

Caiphus Cain is an interesting point in regards to your ending interpretation of training. He also knew his back story. There's also the short story about Comissar Yarrick's backstory where it explains how he was raised as a youth. It seems pretty clear that he knows his past. The indoctrination and mind wipe part might be more about altering how they react to certain things more than anything else.

@scottdodge6979

2 жыл бұрын

It probably revolves around desensitization and the purging of bad habits that have been ingrained over time.

@evanceier8577

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottdodge6979 not sure it worked on cain

@beltempest4448

2 жыл бұрын

This could be due to the steady degradation of the supply of the drugs they use to enhance indoctrination

@yourfriendlycommisar2406

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanceier8577 I thought cain was convinced that he was raised in a have city? but that it seems like it might not be entirely correct but he at least belives it himself? i might be wrong though

@evanceier8577

2 жыл бұрын

@@yourfriendlycommisar2406 haven't read a lot of his books and it's been a bit, so you could be totally right

I just spent 3 weeks in the Philippines getting eaten alive by Mozzys listening to your back catalogue, Good to get back home to find a new addition. Keep it up AP

Great video and if we could get a game where you start in the Scholar and depending on your choice you go to the Tempestuous Scions, Sisters of Battle or ad a Commisar to the Guard. Then you go through a different story in each case. That would be amazing

@badabing9234

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that be great.. how about incorporating it in an open online world setting so that you could begin with a blank slate and based on different happenings you end up in one or the other. Then it could be played for years.. hell just the training could be played forever but eventually getting assigned to a certain planet in such n such sector. You're either the first or here's the story for the last commisar. Just so many ways you could go. I'd love a huge multi-player open world game where you'd choose everything. If you went thru to be a commisar you'd have these game lines. Choose to be born on Kreig? Go that route. Just so many ways it'd be the most in depth game world ever.

@eichler721

2 жыл бұрын

@@badabing9234 exactly it could be the open world MMO that they wanted Eteral Crusade to be but actually good with so many options for more updates later. They could add Inquisition agents later so teams of odd troop choices could work together for the Inquisition on missions. Sisters of battle could do purge or escort missions as well. The options are about endless.

@badabing9234

2 жыл бұрын

@@eichler721 It could be so immersive and long standing that if say you were recruited into or by one group but your story dictated this happened or u chose otherwise so you'd go that route.. but eventually that person trying to recruit you could be ran into on odd planet and the story go from there. Mainly meaning real players in all positions so they recruit but if u end up elsewhere you could still run into them in a storyline. Just so many ways.. glad you mentioned it you've got my mind working here lol.

@notsuresomemush2977

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you should create a appropriate dnd style campaign mate.

@eichler721

Жыл бұрын

@@notsuresomemush2977 I have but for 40k it's called Dark Heresy is the system and have made many and played in a bunch. It would be cool to have a video game like that though.

My homebrew chapter War priest recruits from the schola progenium

It's been awhile since I read the gaunt books, but wasn't his dad considered an imperial hero or something? If that's true they might want to leave the memories intact giving the recruit a reputation they have to strive to live up to.

@nicholasthompson6152

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't that back fire just as easily. You could be pessimistic or optimistic, the individual could just as easily use that thought process to attempt to over achieve even in the face of what's best for the whole.

Great work ABP this gives a great context to the Commissar from Execution Hour

Fantastic voice talent. 5 seconds in and I’m hooked!

I love your rendition of this character - he's almost giddy with excitement as he explains all of the unconscionable things the Imperium does to perpetuate its mission on behalf of the Emperor of Mankind. Shaking my head ...

Epic dude, absolutely epic!!! Love your content my man. Keep up the good work.

Great job my man. You deserve much more attention in the WH crowd

The little side-comments make it even better haha x D Great work again, ABP

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@dcbluenose1873

2 жыл бұрын

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Yoooooo. The Intro is So cool, with the countdown and everything.

So, a guy can get all that combat training, and get sent to the Adminatratum?! He's like Ben Afflack in The Accountant Movie!!!

Very good coverage. Enjoyed this. I’m fairly certain Cain remembered his last in the underhive as well. Maybe the mind wipe is optional for characters.

@Its_A_Gundam

Жыл бұрын

Yah, he recalls this crawling through various tunnels and spooky places.

Love your work as always bruv. Thank you for doing this.

@bigroar71

2 жыл бұрын

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one part however where a cadet has to shoot his/her training partner I don’t believe the imperium would willingly kill off half a cadet force of highly trained and skilled potential officers/scions

@shady83

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe a cadet they've already declared a failure while testing his colleagues obedience at the same time

@elcapitan9141

2 жыл бұрын

@@shady83 see I would accept that where they where tasked with executing a poorly performing cadet sure. But it’s presented as they are asked to do the same to their peers and close training partners

@shady83

2 жыл бұрын

@@elcapitan9141 it's a new piece of lore still being ironed out wait till there's a few books set in the scholas. Personally I like that they are filling the massive gap between regular imperials and SMs, what I don't get is why the IG Regiments can't have their own SF companies and why Orphans of nobles. Why wait till they're orphans? Taking the first son could just be normal tithe for being a noble without waiting for a convenient massacre that MIGHT leave the right survivor

@elcapitan9141

2 жыл бұрын

@@shady83 I think the vast majority of cadets are from dead imperial guard officers rather than nobility simply by a numbers game there, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t work off of a type of tithe system either in some systems. The biggest glare to me is that they’d kill off half of their fully trained cadet forces yearly, who knows what potential those killed may have had we have to kill them to test the other is just a plain bad system

@richtheunstable3359

Жыл бұрын

Only those who are being trained for the post of commissar execute one of their buddies. So only a minority will be expected to do this so it won't thin the herd that much.

Great video thanks a million

Absolutely magnificent

Thanks Aborder Prince - you got great content!

Thank you , Prince of the Border . 🐺

Sir, thank you for this. Bless you.

Love your lore deep dives man

Spot on brilliant vid

What can I say, words fall short of greatness

Reminds me of my days at military school

Thanks so fun!!

I like the stream intro. Very cool.

Keep slaying it, slayer!

Mindscaping means something akin to landscaping the mind...not a mind wipe. It means taking a person's mind and building up or adding parts you want to focus on. It's not like a mind wipe that erases all memories.

The Scola Progenium is just an honest Catholic residential schools.

@theblancmange1265

2 жыл бұрын

And the "nuns" aren't forbidden from having relationships.

And The mind wipe drug was rear, and as you said the galaxy is a big place, even if something is hard to get they still need commissar’s, next to incompetent leader ship, The most dangerous thing for an army is the loss of discipline, both soldiers that attack out of formation, and soldiers who run away in panic, The loss of cohesion has doomed many armies in history. The commissar is over the top and grime dark in some way’s, but the discipline needed if 40k was real almost makes it realistic 😱

Finally! Tempestus Scions! Unsung heroes of the Imperium!

Blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne, carrots for the Sterling!

Wassup @ABP I enjoy your work on these novels but there is one in particular that I wanted to ask if you could give me the story about the imp guard group that were left on a planet with orky Boyz where one guy ended up surviving and he was supposed to be unlucky but ended up being lucky do you remember that one

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@tangoimmortalis

2 жыл бұрын

Praise be the trinity of viewership, updoots, and engagement.

Don't the Adeptus Arbites enforcers come from the Schola as well?

@chadthundercock3440

2 жыл бұрын

He mentioned this when he talked about the selection

The inquisition the most secretive opposition. *Looks at the assassins. Suurreee

Cheers 😘

By my roots

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dead or alive you're coming with me

So basically the Death Korps of Kreig with a pedigree?

@Dogue83

2 жыл бұрын

Scions are way better than kriegers

@MrJedimedic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dogue83 I’d like to see that BatRep! :)

Man I have to beat the story for the guard in gladius.

Are we sure the Sions aren't super human?

@sketch6754

2 жыл бұрын

Only humans pushed to absolute breaking point and beyond, and forged stronger for it. Some may have augmentation; cybernetic and gene therapy (usually resultant of combat injuries, not to they level of a space marine but still more than any IG will ever see). So yes they are human, but torn down and built up "better". There are books that cover their full training but i would have to double check their names if you want them.

Are Hot Shot lasguns just Hellguns?

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I think they went a bit overboard with the Schola Progenium, like most things in 40k. It looks like a dark project, almost similar to the Officio Assassinorum, but on a much larger scale. It makes me wonder how many imperial noble houses disappear every year, in any given sector, for the Schola to be so wasteful of the students lives. There are even noble houses who send their children there knowingly ; who would send their children to be mindwiped and turned into monomaniac Administratum executives ?

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@ErnestAutist

2 жыл бұрын

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Man, this lore starts off so mundane, at least as far as 40k is concerned, and then it goes full retard and it does so really hard. When I was reading about Palpatine's personal guard in Star Wars, the book mentions how their last part of their training is to duel another trainee to death, and I was thinking that it's really stupid. And then comes in 40k and says "we can do better". And so the imperium kills of what has to be millions of perfectly usable soldiers and workers every year just as one part of stormtrooper and commissar training, after they invested thousands of hours of training and indoctrination into each and every of those trainees. Ah, gotta love some of that grimderp.

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@ABorderPrince

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

With all the more special, more elite, special elite space marines they keep spitting out surprised they haven't made at least 1 more special and elite tempestus scion unit

Better drink your forget me juice or you’re going in the wall bruh-therrrrrr.

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I love how awful the Imperium is. In real life the sorts of training that Schola Progenia Cadets are put through is the exact sort that leads to troops that commit mass murder, torture, and rape as a matter of course. Which the Imperium might place as part of its broader strategies to Enforce Compliance.

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man did they turned the schola progenium into a massively idiotically wasteful training camp but to be fair that is the IoM wasteful an idiotic

Damn dude people started stealing your audio and reuploading it with bogus links. I mean your redings are worthy of theft for sure but get a little sadd when they add the shitty scam links.

This portion of your reading definitely isn't for me. It just feels like Imperium propaganda and tells you what to think. It certainly fits the Administratum's modus operandi.

@ABorderPrince

Жыл бұрын

propaganda? to whos benefit? this is literally how they train them, i didnt make this up its literally what 40k is

@cvernon5256

Жыл бұрын

@@ABorderPrince No, I understand that. But it feels like in-universe propaganda. This element of lore isn't my thing. That's all I was saying. I hope that explains it. As an addendum, I'll answer your questions: * Propaganda in regards to the regular folks of the Imperium of Man, to have them believe in this greater heroes and peoples that are more important then they. All to instill rigid and strict obedience to individuals installed and vested with the given positions. * This would be for the benefit of the Empire itself. And given the razor's edge that is canonical to the universe, it is often deemed necessary. It creates a strict hierachy of strictures so as to maintain an order enforced by legend if not by force. So, no, I didn't mean to indicate that you were spouting propaganda for someone or something. Carry on presenting as your will, I'll just be listening to your other narrations. Hope that clears it up.