Interestingly enough, there's a scene where when Mei runs into someone, she raises her arms up, which is an actual instinct red pandas use to make themselves larger when startled.

@elnico5623

2 жыл бұрын

wait so mei has red panda instincts stitched into her mind now?

@AverageInternetButterfly

2 жыл бұрын

@@elnico5623 I guess she does

@Willyum123

2 жыл бұрын

She does it again just after that scene when she nearly gets hit by a car

@dywsliws

2 жыл бұрын

sig balik

@DeathnoteBB

2 жыл бұрын

@@elnico5623 I mean she was literally a red panda at the time

the best part of the movie is how cringey it is. It is a movie about puberty and becoming a teenager and that is a cringey process. Romantizicing puberty or adolescence isn't realistic. We all got embarrased in front of someone we liked, we all dressed or acted in ways we now hate or just don't wanna remeber. It perfectly represents how it feels to be a 13 yo girl

@bub858

2 жыл бұрын

The whole 4town concept reminds me of everyone's one direction phase. How we were crazy about them and how we would do anything just to buy their merch or just to see them. The movie really feels like home.

@gwineshten3097

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah like legit though even though I'm still a teen when watching the movie I was like, "I remember those days. Bit cringy, but man they were kind of fun".

@Lunbaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@bub858 no it kinda reminds me of Backstreet Boys tho

@danniboi07

2 жыл бұрын

@@bub858 I related with Tyler, totally pretending to not be into Nsync and BSB, but secretly knew all their songs and dance moves lol

@brendaaraiza1188

2 жыл бұрын

:')

Not all films need to be masterpieces, sometimes they just need to be what they are. A story. Not all stories are big and grand.

@bikewheeleater

2 жыл бұрын

well said. turning red may not be huge for some people but there are lots of others that had a personal connection/experience watching and it was very positive for them . everyone has different opinions and in the end i think its good for stories to be able to connect with people like that

@_fullsunzen25

2 жыл бұрын

I really like this comment, I really appreciate this pov

@sergiolaurencio7534

2 жыл бұрын

agree

@lukethelegend9705

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is how it’s been with a lot of Pixar’s movies lately. They aren’t earth-shattering, but they do what they were meant to do very well. Luca, Soul, and Turning Red all told great stories. It feels like people lately have been expecting masterpieces with every film of theirs, which doesn’t seem fair.

@silentcrow3536

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukethelegend9705 Agreed.

It’s really a missed opportunity with all the fuss around the movie. I feel like this movie handles the mother daughter conflict much better than Brave did and give more more perspective for the mother. And I think it mostly comes from portraying the fangirls in a sympathetic way rather than the butt of the joke that a lot of people do in society. It really was an honest depiction of how teen girl and preteen girls are and it was refreshing to see.

@sum_b

2 жыл бұрын

i resonate with this comment so much omg agree!!

@notateendemon

2 жыл бұрын

Agree ⬆️👍

@ketokeko

2 жыл бұрын

exactly!! i see it and i love it!

@fd3

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, I disagree. I think Brave did a good job showing both the faults of the mother and the daughter. And showing them reach a middle ground and finding love again after a broken relationship. That’s just my opinion, but after watching Brave again after this movie, I found Brave a lot deeper on different levels

@sum_b

2 жыл бұрын

there's this video that explains the angle of why brave was flawed. It was handling two different plot lines of "turning to bear and needing to turn back at a certain time" and the "broken mother daughter bond." After the original director was kicked off, they added the bear storyline to fill in most of the movie and now I see that they could've done better to focus on the mother daughter bond than the bear. This is just my viewpoint and the video I watched. It completely changed my opinion otherwise I love both movies and their own cultural backgrounds so much! ❤️

I think Pixar focusing on human-based story might have to do with your latest feeling over their films. Their most iconic work surrounds the idea of making non-human things deeply human. Inside Out still primarily focuses on non-human entities, Riley is just the vehicle for this story about her emotions personified. Onward is about monsters but they are basically just blue and have magic, it's not the same stretch as a movie about literal Ants lol

@Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale

2 жыл бұрын

one can even argue that Inside Out indirectly talks about depression when the board stops working. Because Depression isn't just "feeling sad", it can be the total lack of emotions at all.

@dylansharp8471

2 жыл бұрын

Huh?

@PheonixGirl-hg7cf

2 жыл бұрын

@@Voidbear_FNaF_and_Undertale yeah, ngl that part of the movie messed me up pretty good for a while

@Giraffe143

2 жыл бұрын

I personally loved onward. It made me cry.

@destinyvevo7424

2 жыл бұрын

It's about how girls change into a woman during puberty lol at that concert my girl literally showed her woman side what a great day to be a female

15:22 I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out yet, but the pandas don't just represent puberty and stuff, but also the resentment and sadness that the people have because of their relationship to their parents. Mei's is very small because she just started realizing how strict her mother is, but Ming's is much larger because she has so much she's bottled up because of the trauma she has from her own mother. The other adults there have a good bit too, considering this has been a big cycle in their family

@drdewott9154

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I mean we learn in the movie that the panda gift was meant as a way for their ancestors to protect their family. And so the greater the threat, the greater the fear, potential trauma, and heartbreak, the bigger the Panda. Meilin still being young and having so far had relatively good experiences with the panda ordeal, with friends approving and actually using it to have fun. Ming however being so stressed out and traumatised within and gotten to breaking point, both due to the stress she puts on herself with how she thinks she needs to take care of Meilin, but also due to the stress and trauma of her grandma's approval. Its all been pent up to make this whole little situation feel like life or death, releasing possibly the strongest, most primal instincts to protect herself and wreck the issue.

@actually-a-lime250

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, I never really thought of that :0

@lavadino610

2 жыл бұрын

notice lily is bigger than the other aunts in panda form because she is always getting told to be quiet

@ilovecats21

2 жыл бұрын

Wow this makes so much sense, you're a smart brain.

@Midnight0Harmony

2 жыл бұрын

@@drdewott9154 can I screenshot this? I'm not a youtuber yet but I'm writing a review and I knew the panda was an allegory for two things but was having the damndest time figuring out the other allegory till I read your comment. If I ever actually properly make this I'll probably just include your comment whole sale

Personally my favorite scene is when Mei asks Sun Yee if she'll regret this and Sun Yee just smiles and embraces her. It wasn't until the second time I watched it that I realized why. Sun Yee took on the blessing of the red panda to protect her family and then passed it down to be a gift to her descendants. I can only imagine how hurt she must've felt when they began locking her gift away and treating it as a burden rather than the blessing that saved their family to begin with. You can actually see her sadness when Mei first steps into the spirit realm and Sun Yee opens the portal for the removal of the spirit. So when Mei comes along and embraces her gift just as Sun Yee always wanted for her decedent's, you can just see the pride and happiness in her smile. So this moment in turning red has and will always be my favorite, closely followed by the one on one of Mei and her dad.

@mkilo9770

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s more epic when, just before mei turns around, we see the floating robes of sun yee. Almost surrounding mei. It sort of implies, at least to me, that maybe mei will be the literal spiritual successor of sun yee. Remember, in her story, she used her red panda to “save her family from ruin”. The family is in ruin again, and someone must be there to fix it again. Wonder who it will be…

@nikasen708

2 жыл бұрын

@@mkilo9770 .... Bro I didn't even think about that... That just makes me love the movie more, thank you for bringing that to my attention, I love it

@nemo-chan9252

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutelt love this idea from both of you.

@mkilo9770

2 жыл бұрын

@@nikasen708 I also want to add this. I’m aware we don’t really see meilin a whole lot pre-panda or even post-panda, so what I’m about to say is just straight up fanfic, but I’m kind of in love with the idea that maybe she becomes an advocate or activist to protect nature. Imagine if there was a short released, sorta like how Luca got one, where she volunteers at a zoo and pets actual red pandas. So cute it’s enough to give a grown person type three diabetes. And then, she sorta lets the audience know (she breaks the fourth wall in the film anyways) about how red pandas are endangered, because I didn’t know that until I searched up red pandas out of pure interest from this film. It’s a golden opportunity to educating people about it, and how WE can do something about it. Again, this is some cringe ass fanfiction, but god damn it let me just imagine 😂. Or maybe she does non of those things. But regardless, I think it’d be so sweet, diabetically sweet, if this happened.

@bunnyfrosting1744

2 жыл бұрын

Mei being the black sheep of the family is such a wonderful plot. So relevant to so many people

If you ask me, I think Pixar focusing on making more personal stories full of heart over chasing the same formula to crank out a masterpiece over and over is a welcome change. I'm glad the company is less afraid to experiment.

@SuperIsaiah

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not honestly. I just feel like EVERY studio is doing personal stories these days. There's nothing that's just, creative and interesting anymore. I know it sounds bad to say I don't like their recent experimenting these past 4 movies or so, but it's like if Nintendo started making shooter games. There's nothing wrong with shooter games but I go to Nintendo for Nintendo games, the only company that really makes those kinds of games I feel the same way about Pixar. I go to Pixar movies because they're the only studio that (used to) have movies that were more world based than character based. Like, oh boy another movie that's relatable, what a new idea! It especially bugs me how much praise it gets over world based stories these days. critics these days will actively give better reviews to relatable movies, even if they all feel like the same thing.

@bobtheball5384

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, especially considering we're getting something like Buzz lightyear as well

@caldw615

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperIsaiah Spider-Verse is creative too without necessarily being a "personal story". I think Soul and Turning Red are both genuinely good in their own right (and IMO Soul is one of the best films Pixar has ever put out because of it's more retrospective look at life resonating with a more older audience who may have been fixated on certain aspects of life instead of just enjoying it) and would much rather Pixar do something they are passionate about rather than chasing the curtails of appealing to the masses and pumping out unnecessary sequels (Toy Story 4, Finding Dory, Cars 2-3, Monsters University, Incredibles 2). No doubt Disney is breathing down their necks to churn out movies that can be used to sell merch so will be begging them to make movies tied to existing films that did well before (Toy Story got milked for extra movies and is now getting Lightyear as an offshoot). If they're just going to be shitting out sequels to make Disney happy at the expense of the film quality and doing something different then that's just a huge waste of potential.

@SuperIsaiah

2 жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 spider verse is great I'll give you that. As for soul, souls almost at the very bottom of my Pixar list. I absolutely hated how poorly they did the concept. Soul is by far the most frustrating Pixar movie ever, because there is so much stuff it does really well but the it fails in developing anything past the first act. The whole becoming a cat thing was stupid and felt shoved in, they never really went anywhere with the music teacher aspect either. You'd really think he'd learn that being a good music teacher is far more impactful on society and we need music teachers, but no, instead the movie kind of just leaves it at "being a music teacher sucks" Not to mention the final act. Talk about going downhill. I think anyone with any story writing knowledge would tell you that letting him just not be dead is an awful decision. Yes, it's a kid's movie, but that doesn't mean it can't teach kids that death is part of life and that you don't just magically get thrown a new one because you impressed some lines. I mean, what are the implications here? That everyone in the Pixar universe who died is only dead because they weren't interesting enough for the line person to give them a second chance? It's got the most bland cookie cutter message as well. "Live your life". Not unique, not elaborated, just bland and relatable. How dare they risk ever making a film that does cater to everyone right? I mean It would suck if instead they had him learn by teaching 22 that his job as a music teacher was more important than that gig, and he comes to terms with how valuable his life actually was, maybe also becoming one of the soul trainer people. Also, most of their sequels have been better than their recent movies. Toy story 4 is definitely better than soul and Luca imo. If I was trying to be fair, I don't know if I'd put it above turning red, but still.

@caldw615

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperIsaiah I disagree on Soul though I do acknowledge some of the criticisms of the usage of the cat. I understand why it was done as it was to give a reason to let 22 use a human body and literally walk in Joe's shoes. I don't think turning his attention towards being a music teacher would really work as well for the message it was trying to portray. The whole movie builds up people finding their spark or passion and how everyone hyped up chasing your dreams to a point you put the idea of the dream up on such a high pedestal that it'll never meet your expectations. It doesn't necessarily need to relate to career it could be anything. Like people believing they NEED to be in a relationship to feel complete or they NEED to make a parent proud or they NEED to be recognised in a superficial way for their talent/art. They either live a depressing life chasing something unobtainable and die with regrets or they achieve their goal and then get hit with the reality of the actual goal achievement not being as satisfying as the anticipation they built up in their head. Joe simply turning his passion to teaching could work to a degree but it still puts focus on someone needing to find SOMETHING when life is far more complicated that that and true happiness and being content with one's life can't really be boiled down to a single end goal. Some people are fortunate enough to come to this realisation when they're young enough through achieving their goal or failing at it and learning to grow from it but some never do until it's too late. From my personal experience I used to believe if I never had a long term relationship that I was somehow a failure and not worth anything. I pinned my whole mindset on this idea to a point I put up with some very toxic unhealthy relationships because in my mind my self worth was tied to having ANY relationship and being alone was somehow worse than being with someone who still made me unhappy. Pushing family and friends away for this person and missing opportunities over them. Eventually after a pretty hurtful break up I had realised I shouldn't base my whole life and self worth on that alone and that I should first be content with myself first and if I did want to be with someone that I shouldn't settle for someone who won't give 100%. If you only love and value yourself 10% and meet someone who gives you 20%, you might think that's more than you deserve and thought possible when in reality it's...very little. It's why some people will put up with toxic or abusive relationships because they feel that's all they deserve. If you love snd value yourself 100% then you won't settle for anything less and will only accept someone willing to give that same level of care and respect. This can be attributed to careers and stuff too. In Joe's case he valued his own ability to teach, to make friends with others, to get to know people and to enjoy things so little that he felt him being able to play music regularly was the only way to complete himself to the detrement of the potential friends and opportunities he had available. So I think him seeing 22's sudden appreciation for everything he has been ignoring to hype up how important getting a gig was and realising what he was ignoring and taking for granted in his one shot at life was far better than if he just focussed on some other singular thing too like being a teacher. Toy Story 4 looks amazing but it kinda shits all over the neat bow ending that was 3 which is why it felt so unnecessary. I don't have strong enough praise or negativity for it as a whole either way compared to Luca either to really say one is better than the other. I don't hold them as Pixar's best but I don't see them as anywhere close to Cars 2 levels of bad.

I personally believe the size of the pandas depend on how much theyve been traumatized or hurt. Ming seems to be the one that has the most problems with her mother based on how calm/freelaced her sisters are, this happens very often too when a child notices they are being abused: They try to break that cycle unsuccesfully and become exactly that, because they are left to believe what they tried to fight was right all along. Ming was troubled since a young age, and I like to think she snapped a lot, she tells Mei to not let the panda out too much or it will be worse, this could actually mean it could get bigger like hers under too much stress or bad emotions. Also something worth pointing out: Psychologically, when a person is traumatized their mental age gets stuck at the age of the incident, thats why Ming was still a teen in the spiritual world, her mind was stuck in the past unlike the rest of her family. I also have to say that My favorite scene was when Mei refused to get separated from her panda, as a woman it really felt heavy on me, felt very personal lol, I loved this movie all the way, props

@fireemblemaddict128

2 жыл бұрын

Oh the grandmother's panda would be huge then. So would the aunties. Growing up in a Chinese family I saw this very clearly. My traumas are a reflection of my parents' trauma, and their trauma a reflection of my grandparents'. What trauma did my grandparents go through? 1. WW2 Japanese invasion and fleeing across the country or participating in the fighting. Nuff said. 2. The cultural revolution, teachers being killed, friends being killed, family being killed... Social ostracization depending on which party they aligned with. 3. Country wide famine that often times left to the death of great grandparents, and fears that they wouldn't be able to feed their kids. Literally eating scraps and leaves. 4. Not to mention the damage old traditions would have caused them, followed by the cultural revolution jerking them around with ideologies suddenly flipping on their head. Yeah my parents had it bad, my grandparents had it a bit worse tho. And of course, some of the damage they experience carried over to me.

@claudiatoledorebolledo6927

2 жыл бұрын

@@fireemblemaddict128 That is a totally fair point, and thanks for all that information! However Pixar would not go that far, ever; I agree with Dazz that the ending feels really rushed. This movie is about Mei and Ming, if they wanted to go further with the rest of the family, we wouldve gotten a 4 hour movie, but they decided to keep it simply, and I deem that fair as well

@chxrbb_dxllhouse5403

2 жыл бұрын

I think the panda size depends on the emotions of the woman in that moment. The original purpose of the panda was to defend helpless women and children against entire armies and I think ming just internalized a giant threat because of angry and stressed she was about mei mei

@annas4277

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, I just wanted to say that I'm not sure that the aunties were Ming's sisters. They looked too old so I think they were probably the grandma's sisters and/or nieces. It also makes more sense thematically for Ming to have been an only child, then go on to have a single child herself. It's another factor to the cycle that's repeating itself. It doesn't matter if Mei calls them aunties even if they're technically not her aunts, it's very common in some cultures to call older female relatives and even family friends "auntie".

@nathanpetrich7309

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's symbollic of just how much attention the raging parent gets when they are dragging their kid out of a concert like that. Everyone around sees it, and the kid must feel so huge and yet so small at the same time. It's a really powerful visual, and this film is more interested in the visual effect than any strict adherence to reality, I think. Also, I'd love to see citation of this "trauma locks your mental age" claim backed by academic evidence that isn't from like a century ago. That's some seriously outdated Freud shit.

It is sometimes hard for people of other cultures to associate with a certain style of story. I know people who saw “Bao” and didn’t get it, but I talked to a few Asians who thought it was great. We’re more alike than different. There’s nothing wrong with not feeling a strong tie to a specific cultural tale and it’s perfectly fine if you do, too.

@Midnight0Harmony

2 жыл бұрын

Who the fuck didn't get bao? That's like standard pixar

@YouVSMeTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Midnight0Harmony Some folks I talked to. They literally thought the bao was a real being. Trust me, my brain hurt too. 🤣

@Midnight0Harmony

2 жыл бұрын

@@YouVSMeTV we need more cultural pieces so people aren't that sheltered

@Midnight0Harmony

2 жыл бұрын

@@YouVSMeTV I just hope Pixar keeps doing more of this. Turning red is now one of my favorite movies and it helped me process some long ago buried emotions I didn't realize I was struggling with. I had never seen a female coming of age story and even though I don't identify with females (or the feeling of having friend groups) I went through puberty. And I needed the reassurance this movie gave. That its OK to be myself. I'm a cool enby who has hormones and cramping and a serious need to check myself and learn healthy communication. 10/10 didn't need to be Canadian or Asian to identify with the emotions. My bf couldn't stand the cast or animation and I kinda want to do a deep dive why he enjoyed the movie but hated all the elements that made up the movie.

@YouVSMeTV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Midnight0Harmony Wow, I’m glad to hear an awesome testimony about the power of film. So glad it helped you, and your bf is also a good case study as to how you can enjoy some parts and not the others.

Mei was literally being as crass as she could to keep her mother focused on her and not the ritual. The scene works very well because she is completely in character by being a loud and cringy 13 year old. I never found Mei too annoying or cringy, she felt real and like someone you would meet in a middle school.

@mjrmalfunction

Жыл бұрын

Just to add - I did find her annoying but that’s because she reminded me so much of myself. And it made me love the movie and her so much more. I really admire the dedication to the unflattering parts of being a girl at that age.

I gotta say that it's weird seeing 2000s nostalgia in a movie. Even though I was born in 2007, it just seems very weird since all my life I was exposed to 80s nostalgia in TV and movies.

@HowDoYouTurnThisOn_

2 жыл бұрын

We're getting old, man.

@ggt47

2 жыл бұрын

I was born in 1999.😭🤮

@thejooper

2 жыл бұрын

@EagleT Vlogs any space for 2009 gang

@Hamantha

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine having been born in 2001. It’s scary. I’M OLD NOW!!! I CANT BE HAVING THIS NOSTALGIA

@MichaelandAidanPlush

2 жыл бұрын

@@thejooper that means your twelve

Ngl, Ming's line "if taught you that, I'm sorry" makes me tear up every time. I'd give anything to have my mum say that to me.

@20ajl35

2 жыл бұрын

This hurts :( felt

@Graficcha

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. If mine had realized that *before* turning fifty... She'd tried to teach me, and like Mei around that very age I started to fight back because that perfectionism and self-sacrificial attitude is bollocks. So many mother-daughter relationships turned hostile, competitive or straight out co-dependent to proliferate those attitudes to the next generation... I legit thought of asking my mom to watch this movie with me, since we do honestly care about each other and having a better relationship would be nice. I know well enough we'd just fall straight back into the pattern of her looking for reasons to dismiss the personal attack she'd inevitably see in it, and me getting frustrated and wanting to never be around her again just like the good old times.

@mmxmeASMR

2 жыл бұрын

That scene had me ugly crying. My mom has finally acknowledged the damage she's caused and said those exact words to me not a few month ago. It took me being in therapy for 2 years, countless arguments and breakdowns, and dozens of hours of talking. But at 20 years old i finally heard the words that I've needed to hear since I was 9. It felt very poignant

I definitely resonated so much with this film. I grew up as an Asian American with a helicopter mom as well. The big panda fight felt like a metaphor for every argument that I had with my mom regarding my choices and my life. The moment when they were able to come to understand each other broke me because I never got that chance with my own mother before she passed away. This Pixar film broke me in ways I never thought it would.

@monstercoward5216

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so sorry.

@monstercoward5216

2 жыл бұрын

I hope maybe this film could also help you in some ways as well

@KawaiiRuby7

2 жыл бұрын

Bless you

@kecym.4808

2 жыл бұрын

condolence

@kaylajude2453

2 жыл бұрын

I’m so so sorry 😭😭

Fun fact: The elementary school featured in the film is a real Toronto school called Lester B. Pearson. The school is named after Pearson who once was the Canadian Prime Minister from 1963 to 1968. Also, the main Toronto airport is also named after Pearson.

@arvinlambio1989

2 жыл бұрын

Is the temple real too?

@slimeprivilege

2 жыл бұрын

that's hardly an interesting fact

@wackbyte

2 жыл бұрын

the skydome is also real

@tropicalhorizongaming5459

2 жыл бұрын

Oh cool

@chillingnob7599

2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know that

When dad said that the grandma disapproved of him and Ming destroyed half of the temple. I thought that flying debris hit her. I wish there was more information about the aunt squad like talking about when they awaken their pandas.

@caldw615

2 жыл бұрын

The scar on the grandmother's face I believe is supposed to have been caused by Ming. When Mei enters the internal red panda spiritual realm and sees a younger version of her mother we hear Ming muttering to herself "I HURT her..." when referring to the argument the dad mentions.

@TtEL

2 жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 She could've hurt Grandma indirectly, like with another object. All we could know she gave Grandma the scar using a claw

@sadeknight9112

2 жыл бұрын

That scar is very clearly from a scratch, frankly given the size difference between the two in panda form I’m surprised it isn’t MUCH worse.

@LycanMOON

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe her panda is so big BECAUSE that incident gave her so much guilt and tramua

@billies._wife_

2 жыл бұрын

@@caldw615 i also saw when mei talked to her grandma about ming the grandma touched her scar when talking about ming

I think the size of Mei's mom panda could be a result of years of oppressing anger. The feelings of never being good enough to her mother. In her fight with her mom, maybe she internalized that view of being a bad daughter for hurting her mother. When she called herself as the good daughter, maybe she was projecting her trauma of feeling inferior to Mei. I'm glad that the trauma was out in the open. That look on Mei's face when her mom said that, hurts my heart. I was ugly crying while watching this movie.

@rubberducky893

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, kids would do kids things. Kids are cringe. I think we need to address that why people look down on cringy things.

@NotAnotherKuromi

2 жыл бұрын

@@rubberducky893 I think you accidentally replied to the wrong comment

@rubberducky893

2 жыл бұрын

@@NotAnotherKuromi oh, I was replying to the video. When he said that people didn't like the movie because of how cringey it was. I just think that people became blind due to their arrogance & false sense of superiority to children. So people have to be reminded that they were cringey too. It's ok to be. It not like it's was bad. People need to stop expecting grown up behavior from kids.

@aloris_

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I don't feel like a lot of people could really relate to the movie not just because of the puberty aspect and meimei being a teenage girl; but also because generational trauma and the effects it has on families as a whole is not a conversation usually talked about. Especially since not everybody gets the liberty to even know what their parents with through and how that may have caused trauma to be indirectly repeated again. I think meimei realizing this and forgiving her mom is good because trauma dumping on her kid isn't good as well. Plus she had a good relationship with her mother it was just aspects that they couldn't come to agree on.

@artvbuckets

2 жыл бұрын

@@rubberducky893 very true when I watched the movie for the first time I honestly cringed at it cause I relate to it in some points of the movie.

I'm a black male and I still genuinely liked this movie. It gave me a few laughs and my entire family also like it as well. The 3rd act was amazing and it was so unexpected. I can't wait to see LightYear!!!

@Katzelle3

2 жыл бұрын

Well that is unfortunate You can not just starve yourself for a movie

@mosquitoe1508

2 жыл бұрын

@{𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒮𝒾𝓁𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝑀𝑜𝑜𝓃} I think hes making some weird racist joke about African people but can't tell

@Katzelle3

2 жыл бұрын

@@mosquitoe1508 The original OP said eat instead of wait

@Katzelle3

2 жыл бұрын

@{𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒮𝒾𝓁𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝑀𝑜𝑜𝓃} The original OP said eat instead of wait

@Iamgayman

2 жыл бұрын

@@Katzelle3 ngl if you never said that I would have thought it was a weird racist joke lmao, I make jokes based off of spelling errors/autocorrect errors too so you good

Mei's cringy 'dance' at her Mom might be the first time I laughed at a character Twerking in an entire decade. A *DECADE*

@Gallrio

2 жыл бұрын

I forgot twerking is now over 10 years old

the dad is so amazing. at the beginning, when he learns Meilin has the panda, he simply says that “red is a lucky color” he’s perfect

I really liked the scene because I had expected a scene with a big monologue about teenage oppression and Mei's willingness to observe tradition in tandem with her modern interests, but instead they went with Mei stubbornly rubbing her newfound independence in her mom's face, which is definitely something a teenager would do, so to ME this was a very realistic scene in this were-panda movie

@jessicakakern4571

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. The emotional weight was great, but I just don't like how she had to shake her behind at her mother to prove it. It could of been any dance or something else, I feel it's a bit encouraging to young girls to shake their rears more. I wish they could have independence without making it a more sexual dance move, especially at a young age

@howthetubbiestelly

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessicakakern4571 it’s more about being your own person rather than being independent + teenagers will do it whether anyone approves or not. it’s not like she was on a pole. maybe the best thing you can do is stop sexualizing children?

@coraliacries4209

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessicakakern4571 to be honest i think it happens like a lot (the dance move i mean) I've literally has classmates throw it back in my all girls highscool during class for fun, just liek the dude in the video said it's just girls being girls. It's just that most people want to hide it treat it as a bad thing and shit on us doing it. I understand the issues with pedophillia that you are hinting at being worried about but the issue is not the girls, but the pedophiles themselves. Having the expectation that it's always the girl's responsibility to protect herself and that you cant do that because what if you get assaulted shouldn't be the first thing people think of when kids and teens are having fun. It's not the children's responsibility to protect themselves from the predators but the adults around them's responsibility and the society they reside in to stop shit like that from happening. For the longest time i was so ashamed of myself for liking things that as mei's mother put it were crass and crude. And when i did talk about it was a heavily put down and scolded "be carafeful around boys, be careful around your friends, be careful around your uncles, be careful around the empolyees, be careful be careful careful careful" It's like the wolrd expects you to trust everyone but also trust no one. It comes from a good place but when it comes to the point that girls are not supposed to trust their friends cause they could drug you and trick you at any moment, or employees because what if they kidnap you, or even family members? Why let them out of hte house in the first place. Over protectiveness like that is what this movie is specifically going against, sorry that this got personal i didn't intend for that. This movie just made me realize how isolated i was and how much i isolated and harmed my self trying to protect myself how i didnt join my friends when they were having fun how I did like what my parents did and scolded them. How this forced naivety from my parents and forced vigilance ACTUALY led to me getting sexually assaulted and a stalker for a year and not even whispering to a soul about it for more years due to thinking that my family would make things more strict for me that they'd say they told me so and limit my few joys even more. To this day they don't know what he's done to me. How I was lost in a airport as a stupid little 9 year old in a foreign country lost right before the flight home, too afraid to ask security guards for help because what if they kidnap me and sell me like my parents told me? I didnt even cry or call for help when i realized that the time for my flight had past and I was still lost in the airport. Eventually they found me through airport security not before traumatizing me when the security guards identified me and tried to brign me back to my parents and i thought they were my fears instilled in me by my parents come true. AHH I TALKED ABOUT PERSONAL SHIT AGAIN EVEN THO I APOLOGISED EARLIER SORRY :AKSHDNFASDFM i hope i got my message across though. It's good to be wary the world is not perfect, but there's a limit to sheilding kids from things kids like to do out of fear of what someone with ill intentions might do if they see them like that.

@tarragoncake1556

2 жыл бұрын

@@jessicakakern4571 I think they considered that when making that happen whilst transformed into a red panda. But it fits with the hormones and rebelliousness of a preteen. I remember being 13-14 and being a lot like Mei. Sure I was a good kid, but that age is when the interest in boys and crassness and stuff happened for me. That was her middle finger moment and honestly I think it was pretty tame. And little girls are more likely to dance like that from seeing stuff while visiting their cousins watching Tik Tok, Cardi B music videos or any social media influencer that they admire than an animated 13 year old were panda from a Pixar film.

@Graficcha

2 жыл бұрын

​@@jessicakakern4571 Not asian nor american, but I resonated with Mei so, so much. Behold, the absolute fury of frustration and straight out anger at a parent who causes all of your worst problems and then dares criticise and disrespect you some more. As a teen I have called my mother a total b-word, flipped her the bird, cussed her out with waterfalls of ef-yous and incoherent screaming and crying and just - hoo boy. She could provoke me so easily every time she refused to even TRY to understand my point of view, acted like pleading for her understanding was just 'manipulation' and having other priorities was 'being petty and trying to make her look bad'... When you're fighting against your own growing self-hatred and feeling like nothing you do by yourself is worthwhile, invalidation and being treated like a fool and there being nothing you can do about it, it's either fight back or bend over and give up your already flagging self-respect. Being a teenager in that kind of position and having the personality to get angry rather than just sad and submissive makes you *spicy*. Every time Mei got mad I found myself kind of air-punching with how much I could relate and just FEEL that in my veins. Just RRRGH with holy shit Ming is it that difficult to treat her like you care about her and not just her pristine perfect image. Here's the secret to that butt wiggle scene: Mei's not trying to be sexual there. She's overcome with the excitement of conflict, the adrenalin of having an actual fight with her mother, and in such a flood of emotions *you go for the kill*. You go for what you KNOW will get a reaction. Mom says A? Hahahahahaha well then screw you I will do everything BUT that. Mei's choice of provocation tactic is a direct response to what Ming is unreasonably criticizing her for. Ming shows her disdain for the joy and satisfaction of a maturing teenager's totally harmless fantasies and boy band crushes and excitement? Well here you go, MOM, let me rub it in some more, see, are you as upset as I am yet? Am I getting under your skin? Can you tell how mad I am at you and how the more you push the more I'll push back? I'm not some wee brainless little trophy kid I am ME and I WANT to be me and if you cause me emotional pain by treating the real me like a gross fake failing to properly be the nice and docile me in your eyes, I'm gonna make that a problem for you, it's only fair. Heck even the age range lines up. As a younger kid I got those amazing grades, showed off how responsible and mature I was, took pride in being ~ serious ~ and independent and capable. Then somewhere around Mei's age I suddenly developed that kind of anger, I got sick of being the smart, good girl with the old soul and feeling like being momma's brave little helper was something to be proud of. I realized I didn't WANT to follow her guidelines - my mom was a miserable, chronically stressed out and frequently ill perfectionist who gave so many shits about things that meant NOTHING to me. Perfect grades, folding the towels THIS exact way or you're not trying, 'everything I do I get right on the first attempt'... Trying to develop my own values and priorities? That just got me hours and hours of lectures, and then lectures about the shit I did to avoid the lectures. I again legit kind of squeaked when I saw Mei had been hiding her B grade tests under her bed. I did that so often even if it made absolutely no sense, teachers checked every month whether a parent had signed off on every single test result I got. Traumatized perfectionist mothers with that deep-seated core feeling of 'I will never be good enough' exist in just about all cultures. Daughters with a will of their own that fight rather than fawn end up with them as mothers. Mei rocks, and while this vid says the whole scene in the spirit forest and the mirror was just mostly nice to them, to me it said everything that needed to be said. Simple, painful principles and a truckload of emotions that will gutpunch people that have been through this. This IS the Pixar rivers of tears moment, just not for everyone.

"non-crying", sir I've cried watching this movie more than any other pixar film. Generally, people cry when they can relate, which means that some people cry with some movies and some with others. This wasn't a non-crying movie. It was a very-crying movie, but if you can't relate on a personal level, it's understandable that you wouldn't cry.

Omg finally someone says it! I feel like people hated this movie because they got second hand embarrassment refusing to admit they were just as cringey as mei's friend group, we were all at some point obsessed with the current thing and say what other people said like in the future our slang might also be considered cringe later on in years. I think we just need to embrace our past selves and accept the fact we were all kids at some point 🙄

@OhNoTheFace

2 жыл бұрын

Because that is what we go to movies for

@yagithesmol7518

2 жыл бұрын

@@OhNoTheFace to be away from our cringey past or to see the realism like this movie expressed? Not judging just wanna know

@lukethelegend9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@OhNoTheFace yeah, it is. They’re supposed to make you think.

@OhNoTheFace

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukethelegend9705 Please, save your "thinking" movies for not kids entertainment

@alexanderthorne5366

2 жыл бұрын

@@OhNoTheFace What's wrong with putting some thought into kids' entertainment?? Kids should know it's okay for them to be little weirdos every now and then

There's something about these kinds of movies that are the ones I end up loving more and more over time. I wish there had been something like this when I was 13 in the early 2000's, but I'm so glad that it's here now for young people to watch. I think as adults we can see it's emotional moments as not that huge of a deal, but to a young kid it's everything to know that your parents or family will still love you even as you grow and change.

"Why is it called 4town if there are five of them?!" I now realize that the answer is right in front of us. We have four main girls... and the bully boy also likes a specific member of the band.

@lennybird

2 жыл бұрын

Some say that it's called 4 town because the two Aaron's that are in the group are like one person

@cypher515

2 жыл бұрын

@@lennybird I read on TvTropes that the storyboards or the original script said that 4Town was a four-man band when they were formed then they added a fifth member. Not sure of the source though.

@wt6241

2 жыл бұрын

As a kpop fan this is a pretty common question imo lol. Every kpop group's name has a concept or idea for the band in general and in the industry some members leave and some are added by the labels, thus destroying the name/concept lol. Examples would be seventeen (not 17 members but 13 now lol) or day6 (consisted of mainly 5)

@superspies32

2 жыл бұрын

4town easter eggs appeared on Luca. If Pixar theory is true, one member from the old band now in charge of music company and use it as the trademark. 5 of them were found and trained by the company and they are the most successful one (remember this is 2002, no KZread so no one can just bring a guitar to the cross and become famous like Justin Bieber, almost stars must apply to music company and they will judge their talent with outlook. This still worked today at Korea, famous K-Pop bands comes from companies, not social networks). Since trademark not belong to the band and changing it can lead to multiple mess with all products they made, the band cannot change the name and must accept it.

@kirin1230

2 жыл бұрын

I'm just gonna add 4 is considered unlucky in many cultures, so that's likely why it was decided for the name/logo.

I love the ending. Especially when her relatives break their amulets to release their red panda forms to help. Though there is one thing that doesn't make sense. Why is the mom red's Panda form ginormous

@AuraHero

2 жыл бұрын

She has far more repressed emotions than the others.

@NotAnotherKuromi

2 жыл бұрын

After the mums panda reveal I was expecting the other pandas to be even more varying in size & appearance. I understand why the panda would be huge now as she has had decades of supressing her emotions but that doesn't explain why it was so large as a teenager. I think showing that the mother actually grew in size would be a better representation that not addressing things causes bigger & bigger problems.

@Plsrateeight

2 жыл бұрын

We find out that she hurt her mother and never forgave herself and she has bottled that up for so long.

@GippyHappy

2 жыл бұрын

@@NotAnotherKuromi Yeah I was hoping the grandma was gonna be huge too, like representing that this is a cycle of mistreated daughters going on to become abusive moms, but her's being so small sort of ruins that. Especially since her sister's panda isn't big either, which makes it seem like Ming was the only one who was abused by her mom even though she isn't even the oldest.

@tunesquicklee

2 жыл бұрын

what the others said, but i also think the support system also has to do with it. ming is distant from the rest of her family due to the fight over the panda, she only really had jin and mei. in contrast, her mother (mei's grandmother), her sisters, and her daughter all had loved ones emotionally supporting her. this is why hers is so big.

For me, this movie was everything. For me, this was just as emotional as any other Pixar movie because I can relate to it the most. I’d much rather have a studio that not everyone can relate to all of the time over a studio that makes the same thing each time.

@SuperIsaiah

2 жыл бұрын

I'm personally sick of movies I can relate to. Everything feels like it's made to be relatable these days, I just want a unique story. Really I feel like "relatable" just equals bland in this context

@kropianimation1774

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperIsaiah How is Turning Red "bland"? There is absolutely nothing bland about this movie.

@SuperIsaiah

2 жыл бұрын

@@kropianimation1774 normal person, normal world, quirky supernatural occurrence that's meant to exaggerate relatable issues. We've seen this hundreds of times and it's starting to get old. The only thing this movie does differently is that it's intentionally awkward and uncomfortable to watch , which I don't really see as a good thing. Also there's like no good music in it

I loved the dad character too. He reminded me a lot of my dad, and how he always is willing to listen and talk about feelings and emotions which is kind of odd. My dad’s a 6”4 bald, black cop but he seems pretty in tune with his emotions and I think he just projects his younger self onto me. Probably from a place of feeling unheard or misunderstood in his own home. My grandma and my mom are pretty similar is their ways of raising kids… and he KNEW my mom so he probably understands where I’m coming from. The dad character in this movie had a conversation with Mei-Mei in a similar way mine would have with me 😌, and it made me smile.

Honestly I thought the scene where Mei was shaking her butt in her mom's face was freaking hilarious! Especially with the camera cutting away but still showing her doing it in the background! I've known people that have done that in real life which made it all the more hilarious!

The dad was truly an amazing character

@Plsrateeight

2 жыл бұрын

For real, not getting the people who do not understand what makes him great.

@charlottenys9603

2 жыл бұрын

he was SO criminally underrated 😭

@skategoats5266

2 жыл бұрын

He's the only good thing from the movie, everything else is bad

@Ri57490

2 жыл бұрын

@@skategoats5266 no way

@Ri57490

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlottenys9603 no he wasn't. He was a background character, not part of the main plot, so of course people won't be talking about him as much as Meilin's mom or friends

Something I don't see people talk about (and maybe I am making a connection that's not actually true) is how the editing reflects Mei's perspective and mindset on life, it starts off more like how a 13 year old would edit a video together- I know this because I would edit that way when I was a preteen, it reflects her personality a lot. The editing slowly gets more serious as the movie progresses, the only time we see that fast pace sort of editing is during the school and party montage. I thought it was pretty cool. Also I really appreciate the reconciliation scene a lot, my mother has always been one of those overbearing helicopter moms (she had valid reasons but sometimes it was super overboard) and we have fought a lot throughout my teen years. One thing I have heard from her a lot after arguments or just conversations about things is- exactly what Mei's own mother said, that she's sorry that she passed on or taught me anything to make me feel like I wasn't loved or doing what I could in situations. It really hit close to home, and a lot of people think it's unrealistic- it's not! Mei and her mother were shown to have a strong bond and relationship- even with the overprotective nature and everything else, they made a point to show that Mei's mom loved her and ultimately didn't want to hurt her daughter. The apology scene is not just the mom realizing she's hurt Mei, but being able to put her own pressures and trauma behind her to support her daughter - she's a good mom despite her flaws and thats what made it believable and realistic to me

@Kitkathere

2 жыл бұрын

Woah wait you're right :O

20:38 It actaully was the scene that made me cry. It was very relatable. my mother and I have never had a good realtionship, her mother hurt her, and she hurt me. Although I don't forgive my mother because there are still issues with her, there was just this at home feeling

@nobirthday

2 жыл бұрын

Same. When he says it didn't make him break down into tears like old Pixar movies I was just there looking thru waterfalls like 😭😭 WHO ISNT? people without mommy issues apparently

@zebulon5074

2 жыл бұрын

THAT was the part that made me break down crying 😭😭

@20ajl35

2 жыл бұрын

SAME Oh my gosh movies never do that to me but this scene is it

it's so weird to hear other people saying they didn't feel as strongly about this film as others because I was sobbing too much to even see the screen through out the whole bamboo forest scene. this movie was for people with mommy issues specificly

It's also great seeing an increasing trend of dad characters standing on their child's side. Mirabels dad from Encanto and Mei's dad are great. It's nice to see another parent in the picture on the side of the protagonist and not missing, against their child or silent.

10:02, instead of feeling cringe, I felt Mei’s final point of reaching her expiration date of life😭💀

The "I want a refund" line being said so snarky made me wheeze, as someone who works in a venue you always get people reacting like this.

as a former tween girl and now functional adult woman, the anxiety over the disapproval of your mother when it comes to expressing your sexuality is a powerful and relatable theme. My mum and I were exceptionally close and I was like Mei, i enjoyed spending time with her and making her proud through my school work, church and art- when i started to feel a certain way about things, and wanted to explore the burgeoning adult side of me, the throwaway comments of disapproval by my mum were devastating, and we were also a christian family too, which i related to with mei mei, feeling she isn't only letting down her family, but her religious obligations too. The twerking to me was great, it was so empowering, like this is my body, ill use it how I like, a little gyrating may make me less your innocent little girl, but it wont end the world. roughly 50% of the worlds population goes through a female puberty, and our puberty begins in our brains about 2 years before physical changes kick in, so it's really a very drawn out emotional and physical ordeal which in some ways is harder to navigate because the emotional maturity we have at the time of the physical changes is really at odds with the emotional turmoil, anger, frustration etc that comes with puberty. This film is relatable to kids anticipating puberty, those going through it, and those who remember it and our first real "fight" with our parents or parent and how world ending it feels. The kaiju is the most appropriate use of that image I've seen in a long time lol

@Graficcha

2 жыл бұрын

Empowering, cathartic. Every time Mei got angry over her mom's unreasonable judgments and dismissal of anything her smart, competent, hardworking daughter did the second it didn't fit her picture... Mate, I cheered, I fistpumped, it was so amazing to see in a movie. It hurts to feel so frustrated and let down and rejected. Fighting back for me was infinitely easier to endure than trying to smother myself to fake harmony though, I just couldn't. You can't control your own parent's willingness to be reasonable, relax, get their own shiz together instead of living their life with unhealthy and at times cruel, inhumane attitudes towards people. As a kid, you don't have the option of simply walking away to where they can't act on their 'duty' to tell you how to live your life and guilt and shame and ridicule you. So you either butt heads and bear the damage of living in stress overtly, or you stick your own needs and self-esteem into a little jar and bury it and suffer covertly. You'll start growing into the same kind of uptight person who only gives attention and respect and affection under specific conditions, having earnest bonds with no-one because you're too afraid of being discarded if they find out that, gasp, you're NOT just everyone's housemaid and secretary and superwoman. Mei for most relatable character ever to me, down to the passionate but very amateur magic boyfriend art... xD

Psst, her name's not Meilee it's Meilin Lee. And she's reaching toward Robaire, not Jesse. 😬 But yes, this scene is just...perfect. Everything comes full circle. The pop music melding with the Chinese chant is goosebump inducing. SO GOOD.

@cameronsharples2544

2 жыл бұрын

Nerd

@darksev.6468

2 жыл бұрын

Her name is Meilin Lee, but people call her Mei. He was probably calling her Mei Lee because of that.

@Hade-Official

2 жыл бұрын

Nickname Mei, last name Lee, Nickname + Last name = Mei Lee

@3ndoBiologist

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameronsharples2544 ?

@rebeccagibbs4128

2 жыл бұрын

the song when the aunties turn up is so epic- i love the asian fusion they embraced in this soundtrack, lots of the strings and panpipes feel loose and almost off key but never goes off the rails, which feels appropriate for the themes of the film

The panda can arrive in adulthood or late teens, therefore why mei was actually a rare outcome to have the panda so early

@Kekkersboy

2 жыл бұрын

It's brought on during reaching teen years. it's just that Mei's mother still thought of her as a child so wasn't expecting it.

@styxdraco6721

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kekkersboy This is further highlighted when Mei’s in the bathroom and there’s the whole scene where her mom is worried and asking what’s wrong, and we think she knows it’s the panda…. Then turns out she thinks it’s just her period, and gets even MORE confused “because it’s too early”. She’s 13, many girls start getting their period at 11 or 12.

@rikuxii

2 жыл бұрын

@@styxdraco6721 or younger, most people I knew started at 8, 9 or 10

i liked her dad too, but i felt like he was a background character for almost all of the movie and only had that one scene where he was an involved parent.

@donkeykong3628

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, I've seen many people give him way too much credit even though he seemed really passive

@fulichak6499

2 жыл бұрын

@@donkeykong3628 Wasn't it heavily implied that she had a "great" relationship with both parents

@donkeykong3628

2 жыл бұрын

@@fulichak6499 tbh it seemed as though she had a better relationship with her mother; her and her dad rarely spoke together in the movie, whereas her and her mother always interacted (and even enjoyed the same shows together)

@DeathnoteBB

2 жыл бұрын

@@donkeykong3628 Yeah cause his relationship with her wasn’t the plot…

Not gonna lie, I personally teared up during the dad's talk with mei and later the whole bamboo scene with the mom.

We had very different viewing experiences because the “red panda or no red panda” scene had me bawling

I could heavily relate to this movie, and it gave a courageous message to be you and relates to kids in a strict home. I was in a strict home. I found myself cringing from the past that this movie replicated, like the art scene or the grades. I liked this movie better than encanto personally bc i could relate to it more (and they both deal with generational trauma). I feel like this movie was a mire personal one and i was ok with that

Great video! I think the part about unrealistic expectations is what makes this a very significant story for me about family dynamics. And for once we’ve got a story about girl puberty! What I think is weird is that you be heard people say this is a redundant story because we already have a mother/daughter story from Brave. Because we’re only allowed to have one. Because every mother/daughter relationship is the same. Because a Scottish medieval mother/daughter relationship is the same as and early 2000s Chinese-Canadian mother/daughter relationship.

@bluepearl_22

2 жыл бұрын

They don't even try to hide it anymore

the spirit world scene reminded me of the one scene in paranorman where norman talks to the witch when she was a girl and they are in this ethereal forest area

@xxbennyboygamerxx

2 жыл бұрын

this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZmcp5mSfKnTd6w.html&ab_channel=Movieclips

@vivianjin8967

2 жыл бұрын

me too

@michaeloluwajuyemi4546

2 жыл бұрын

It does to me too! I’ve only seen it on KZread videos, but I can see it!

to be fair, i think this is a great film for a director's debut, i think we can expect really fantastic things from her in the future. much worse films have been made and got far less flack than this one, i just hope it doesnt put the director off because the 'being hard on yourself' theme clearly came from her real life and that kind of mindset is hard to shake

it was EXTREMELY personal and relatable to me. i'm a japanese-american and this movie made me sob my eyes out until my brain pounded and my throat stung. mei is a lot like me and these things broke me. my relationship with my mother is a lot like hers except for that mei and ming get along. ive spent so long trying to please and this movie said exactly what i've needed to hear. i want to show my mother this movie but i'm terrified of either hurting her feelings or she just wont get what i'm trying to say. i want her to understand that i AM trying my absolute best and i'm not anything just to spite her, i just want to be happy as well. maybe people dont find it relatable and heart-wrenching because it's a cultural thing ? i'm not sure

@onijester56

2 жыл бұрын

If I were to recommend it to my parents, I would pull something nondescript, like "Hey, the new Pixar movie is pretty good!" As to the "maybe people don't find it relatable" comment...I'm a pasty-white American born and raised in Central/Upstate New York, with the two biggest chunks of my genealogy being German and Irish. I couldn't be more culturally separate from the movie's Chinese-Canadian central cast. And yet Mei's struggles and the conflict even within the one generation mirror my own relationship with my parents during the 00's (when I attended middle-school and high-school). If only I was as lucky as Mei to have a magical curse to absolve the pressures put upon me and allow my parents and I to have a heart-to-heart in an ethereal spiritual realm...instead of constantly shouting or even outright fighting at least once every year from 2002 to 2009 because Perfect-Student Valedictorian volunteering at a hospital 20+ hours a week outside of school is being disrespectful when I want to hang out with my friends at the mall after my Math Club meetings and Drama Club rehearsals on Saturday. But then when forced to be at home, it's disrespectful to be in my room reading books or playing games or talking to my friends online like some "antisocial loner" when I should be on beckon call for every little whim of my parents... Dudes, you had to walk through the kitchen to get to the main hallway so you could call up the stairs such that I could hear you! If you want me to get you a glass of water or something, I could run down the stairs as fast as physically possible and still arrive after you get it yourself! So I'm betting that most people (not all, but most) who claim it's not relatable do so because they see Ming as being correct and Mei as being wrong...missing the point entirely of the movie.

16:16 FINALLY, someone mentioned the little mixing of the two songs. As much as I like turning red, I’m meh with the boy band shit. I never got into that as a tween. But when both the Chinese and boy band songs combined like that, that shit slapped harder than the original climax for turning red. (Look it up 💀)

@pundertalefan4391

2 жыл бұрын

Gives me chills every time.

The most unrealistic part of this movie is the mother saying she's sorry

@K_8T

2 жыл бұрын

unrealistic for some very realistic for others

@rinxmacaroni2085

2 жыл бұрын

same goes for Encanto

@misterlion4700

2 жыл бұрын

I guess it just wants to show the mother side of things and not really make her a villain

@unknown_limes

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, honestly, the abuse in both this movie and Encanto (seeing as someone mentioned it, might as well) was not a conscious choice. Sometimes (grand)parental figures are wrong, but the problem is most don't wanna admit it bc the human brain is a perfect machine of self-defense (I'm me, I know best, I can't be wrong even if it means I suck). The incredibly stressful events shown in those two films have stakes beyond that a normal human would suffer, leading to a breakdown of the figure's ego and a Big Realization™️Thus the apology Besides, it's a movie, not having a resolution for the emotional climax is just poor filmmaking.

@singingofsilver

2 жыл бұрын

I sort of agree with you? The more unrealistic part of it (in my opinion) is that she _means_ it, and that it's not just a way to get Mei to back down or give up because she's 'admitted' her faults. As well as that, it's not a non-apology (such as "I'm sorry, _but_ I still think I was right") that a lot of people tend to give.

Having grown up with a narcissistic mother. Hearing the line "you don't have to apologize, I'm your mother" hit me hard. I can't even put it into words.

Watched it with the family, everyone thought it was good. We tend to throw jokes around when watching things together. One thing I found was that Ming seemed a little oblivious even after having her revelation, the "You're so hard on yourself, and _if_ I taught you that..." it just comes off a bit tone-deaf. A more decisive "You're so hard on yourself, and I guess that's my fault" would have really helped that scene IMO.

@sad-womeninthehouse4249

2 жыл бұрын

This, I really wish she had apologized for embarrassing her so many times

I don't like the scene of her shaking her but, but i don't think it's inappropriate, and it definitely doesn't ruin the movie. It's a great movie

@nukaberry447

2 жыл бұрын

It's inappropriate 💀 she's 13

@djminibelly4427

2 жыл бұрын

@@nukaberry447 that's how some kids dance

@bunni9279

2 жыл бұрын

@@nukaberry447 have you ever been in a middle school cafeteria before? You’re gonna have to bleach your ears

@Kittsim

2 жыл бұрын

@@nukaberry447 Kids are inappropriate sometimes lmao. You’re learning barriers and growing as a person. Like or people forget what it was like to be a kid or they haven’t evolved and are just as cringe as when they were kids and don’t realize it.

@naolucillerandom5280

2 жыл бұрын

@@bunni9279 Bleach your ears, eyes, and maybe your nose

I’m definitely more of the demographic for this movie, I too was a confused middle school girl struggling with how cringe I felt I was, confused about my identity and sexuality and even struggling with menstruation. Maybe that’s why this movie hit so close to home for me

Fun fact: the sentence “ im never gonna be good enough for anyone or her. “ is a generational trauma scene with Encanto and that sentence is “i will never be good enough for you, will i?”

It’s really ironic that the music you added in the background, as you talk about a giant angry anthropomorphic red panda lady, is the Pokémon SWSH Gym theme, which is a game that has giant creatures in it.

@disneyvillainsfan1666

2 жыл бұрын

That theme was perfect for this topic.

I love the dad’s character as well, he is such a cinnamon roll who also sees her camera footage and how much happy she is, also because I barely ever see pure Dad with Daughter conversations, or I’ve missed a lot-

“this movie is just an elongated liquid simulation” like how all of the transformer movies (except bumblebee) were just elongated explosion simulation test?

I really enjoyed this movie, even though I a white male from the UK am really not the target audience, I thought it was cute and the artsyle, music, cooking scene and humour was great

@detectivehan5717

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who’s from the Uk as well, the movie is a 50/50 for me. There were some heartwarming moments but there were some that were just annoying. Overall it’s not that bad

@LordGoose-zr6jj

2 жыл бұрын

@@detectivehan5717 Its a movie about 13 year olds, its gonna have moments you might find annoying (kids can be annoying) I enjoyed the references to 2000s culture and the characters where really likeable, I thought Priya was a standout character.

@Ri57490

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a brown woman from the USA so I'm not the target audience for Harry Potter, I thought it was cute though.

This may not have been everyone's cup of tea, for some found it just a decent story, but for people like me and my sister, who have had suffered from almost all of the things Mai had suffered through in the movie, especially parental abuse and neglect, this made us more emotional than Wall-E. It's not a hit or miss, it's a hit or home-run because of how it's such a well told story and because of the many people who relate to these topics.

I loved this movie so much- it hit hard and by the end I was sobbing like a baby. The adult men who hate on this movie because it shows an accurate portrayal of teenage girls aggravate me sm. Theyre just being ageist and misogynistic. Teenage girls never fail to get the short end of the stick. I'm not a girl, I'm transgender- so I was raised as one. And I think thats part of why it hits so hard. Anyways, lovely movie, lovely video.

@Kacangtanah78

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, there are many times when I feel bad for men since they are often to be used as black goat and strawman argument at *things* that are actually more general and not too limited at genders.... like this one. Really, why you mention only adult men when there are many adult and teenage women/girls who hate this movie too for the same exact reason you mention ? If you're telling me it's because they are the majority than how do you know their genders ? I can't even tell yours if you don't say it. Ain't that ironically misandrist in a way yet you ironically talk about misogynist ? I swear none of my friends who watch this movie together with me like it. 2 of them stop noe even half ways and doing something else, few of them say this is meh and the other just find it cringe. Here's the thing, some of them hate it because the reason that you state and all of them are adult women like me who are in our middle 20....

@ND-yz5gh

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kacangtanah78 One of the main criticisms that the movie got is that viewers could not relate to main characters, resonate with their problems and that it had a very specific target audience (by that they mean..women and teenager girls lol). This is why the commenter mentions adult men (they are usually the main demographic for most media that's being produced, while Turning Red is actually one of the VERY FEW Pixar's cartoons not only with a female lead, but also a cartoon that actually focuses on women's problems and interests). So, many male viewers mentioned how they do not belong to the target audience and, therefore, cannot relate to characters, which is absolutely ridiculous, since there are many movies with animals, mythical creatures or even non-living objects (for ex. toys), and yet they had no issues with them. Is it not crazy that so many men have an easier time relating to toys or insects than teenager girls?

@Kacangtanah78

2 жыл бұрын

@@ND-yz5gh Ridiculous ? That's funny and ridiculous on its own lol since the thing is the insects and they toys don't act like what they are. Tell me one ant that talk like human and have feelings like human or toys that fall in love with another toys and move around at night or having an adventure in truck. They aren't humans yet they are drawn with humans's personalities and aren't specific toward certain gender that people from *all gender can relate*. *THAT'S THE THING*, we see Pixar's film that have male mc yet many female viewers can relate because their problems and feelings are something that make many people regardless their ethnicities and gender can relate. This is pixar we are talking about, their animations aren't even targeted to adult men in the first place. anddddd really ? Let's act as if there aren't many female viewers who act the same way toward series that are targeted toward men and say the same thing should we ? That's the thing I'm annoyed at OP.... why being specific toward certain gender when 1) how you and so many people are so sure that the ones who say they can't relate are male ? Do they go around say " I identify as he/him" in their posts or something ? No seriously I genuinely wonder how u guys can know the gender of the people in the internet that are anon. 2) many women themselves can't relate toward the characters. Turning red aren't liked even by many women. There are many who can relate and there are many who find it cringe and can't relate. This movie is far from bad but as we can see it doesn't leave impression as much as Encanto or Soul either. Many people want our world to have equal right toward any genders but so many of us sure love to bring specific gender as blackgoat and purposely forget the other gender(s) also have same issues.

@Kacangtanah78

2 жыл бұрын

@@ND-yz5gh don't get me wrong, it's lovely that Pixar wants to have a movie that is specific toward teenage girls's problems, I don't have any problems with that but when the studio tends to make series that usually are targeted to any genders make it specific to what gender their target is, there will be fans from the other genders to be disappointed and that ain't weird. If pixar makes a movie that are targeted to teenage guys in general, I doubt there aren't any women at all that would do the same thing.

ya know. In a way. This movie is sort of relevant to as a studio Pixar, too. its been the animation darling for years, and then suddenly it starts changing and releasing films that aren't "perfect." But Pixar doesn't have to be perfect and have to make masterpieces with every release. its okay if they just make some fun slice of life movies like this.

@theobserver8

2 жыл бұрын

I 100 % agree! Not every movie in pixar has to be a masterpiece

18:31 When you mentioned the part of them talking about their disagreements as equals, I pictured them doing it in the future after the spirit world little by little, as days months and years pass. That one another accepting not being perfect was only just the beginning. All healing is a process. And we see it later a little bit with Ming arguing with Mei showing her panda when going out with her friends but her eventually accepting her daughters choice anyway because she realizes it’s her life and happiness

I love that you put FNF music behind the kaiju scene around 5:00, especially because that's the mom song in the game.

I love this movie my only issue was the mother nearly accusing the teen boy of being inappropriate with her daughter and never faced with consequences

@OhNoTheFace

2 жыл бұрын

You can abuse males because it is "funny" nowadays

@russiancheems2275

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn’t the consequence kinda kicking off the entire red panda situation?

@TheOtakuFoxBronie

2 жыл бұрын

@@russiancheems2275 not really, that was going to happen either way. It's just upsetting to see a movie doing it's best to open up new ideas and these for it's audience that goes against modern standards but still has this scene in it, there are lots of men accused of things like this and either condemned to being guilty because they're a guy and surely no woman could lie about this, or enough evidence proves they're innocent and everyone just ignored it happened and the other party receives no concequences. Look at Johnny Depp.

@pundertalefan4391

2 жыл бұрын

It's realistic, unfortunately. XP

I feel like sun yee with mei mei there was her expressing her gratitude to mei for her for wanting to keep her panda since she meant for it as a blessing

I wish I had this film when I hit puberty. The way the film so casually approached girls getting there period would have saved a lot of my friends a lot of self hate, fear, and suffering. It was beautiful to see teenage girls be allowed to be teenage girls without being made fun of or ridiculed for it. For its female audience, I feel like the film makes a bigger impact, but the fact that its still a good film beyond the target audience, shows its worth.

Love how you kept saying it wasn't a tear-inducing moment. From the scene when her dad said Mei's videos made him laugh to the Ming crying to the grandma hugging Ming and Ming telling Mei she was proud of her, I cried almost continuously. I soooo wanted a hug. It was a proper journey of hilarious fun, relatable cringe and tears, so many tears for me.

Can't we all agree that power nostalgic boy band are the true source of power?

I'd for the final talk between Mei and her mother was a big tear-jerker moment for me - but from the persepctive of the mother. My wife is pregnant, so much of the final act just really grabbed at some of the thoguhts and anxieties I've been having as a soon-to-be parent. Hearing the mom finally realise the toxic cycle she's participated in and how, despite her best intentions, she may have fostered bad emotional and behavioural patterns in her own daughter was pretty hard.

Di anyone notice taht the dangonrompa sound track is playing in his back round just me? 2:34

Glad I checked this video out now, considering how the Oscars recently treated "animation is just for kids, and adults to endure" Turning Red is a good example that breaks the barrier! The film can correlate with millennials/gen z, first-generation children of immigrant parents, girls, and well anyone. Regardless of the age. Sure it may not be for everyone, but it's a breaking mold, similar to how Mei is becoming her own self!

I adore absolutely everything about this film and obsessed over it for like a solid 2 weeks. So many things hit so close to home, even if I can't turn into a giant red panda lol. Also... I've never met nobodyyyyy like you, had friends and I've had buddies, it's true... But they don't turn my tummy they way you do, I've never met nobodyyyyy... Like you. YOU'RE NEVER NOT ON MY MIND, OH MY, OH M-

even watching this is bringing me dangerously close to tears. this movie makes me too emotional IM IN FUCKING PUBLIC

I do love the dad interactions

OMG the Unpacking background music

dude you have all the best music for the background of your videos! Danganronpa, startdew valley, and the 'To the Moon' reference at the end ;_; awesome!

oh cool a new dazz video i was literally watching an old one right now

This movie really didn't deserved all the hate it got.

@GeoGosha

2 жыл бұрын

Naah, it deserved worse. Exposing cringe with crappy lesssons to children is just pathetic.

@princeapoopoo5787

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeoGosha Spelling lessons wrong is pretty cringe, bro.

@animebrains6859

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeoGosha oh nooooo the lesson of trying to be like yourself despite your family constantly putting you down and telling you to be someone you are not. What a baaaad lessoooon

@imdumbbut8915

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeoGosha oh no! a teenage girl going through puberty! What ever can I do!

@rommix0

2 жыл бұрын

@@GeoGosha So teaching kids about periods is a crappy *lesson? You have fucked up priorities sir.

The DR music as you talk on for so long makes this more perfect, genuinely the reason my attention span wasn't broken in a minute XD

Idk man, I definitely cried the first time I watched that scene in the spirit realm between Mei and her mom. I then watched it with my mom, who also got very emotional. When it got to the part where Ming said "You're so hard on yourself. And if I taught you that, I'm sorry," she said that was one of her own regrets as a parent, that she taught me to be hard on myself by being hard on herself.

15:30 regarding this, i always interpreted the pandas size being something to do with repressed emotions. i figured this because of the mother's attitudes and behaviors throughout the movie compared to Mei's and the other relatives later on. Out of everyone, the mother seems to repress things the most, and Mei represses the least.

It is nice when someone gets it. Just as you described, Mei is giving her mother the biggest middle finger she can in lieu of a bedroom door to slam, her dance is meant to be exaggerated and to provoke anger. It is not meant to be taken as an erotic dance for the sexual gratification of the audience as so many people seem to view it. I think that once the film made that joke about periods and tampons early on, many people could never get over it and interpreted the red panda to be solely a representation for menstruation and sexuality in a young girl. Some even going so far as to imply that Mei hustling the panda to earn money for the tickets was meant to be promoting teenage prostitution.

3:54 "And dozens are dead." I didn't know that that was a Travis Scott concert! I thought they went and saw 4-town!

DAAAMN I love how indepth you went in this. Nice!

I cried when i watched the movie when ming said "I'll never be good enough for her" and i cried seeing that in this video because this is exactly how i still feel with my own mother.

Being raised as a teenage girl myself, this movie really hit hard on things I’ve personally never seen in a kids movie before. My mother wasn’t as strict, but she and a handful of my other family members and teachers (even classmates and friends) had really high expectations and praises for me because I was a fast learner and did as I was told/‘’did the right things’’...To the point that I internalized and felt like if I deviated, my world would fall apart; and at some point I couldn’t keep up with life getting more complicated and... I really did fall apart, even worse than I feared. It has taken years for me to build myself back up, and still slowly unlearning toxic perfectionism. My rebellious stage starting as a young adult through doing what /I/ want. Luckily, most of my family (especially my mom) and current friends are good supports, but I wish now that I had Mei-Mei’s courage as a teen, and could sooner see that the sides of me that I saw as imperfect and shameful of was normal, and I would be loved and understood regardless.

the music choice for the background is actually so cool

You are spot on at the 14-minute mark: as the youngest of four in a family that prized success and achievement, I was an abject failure at Mei's age, as was at least one of my fellow siblings. I can't speak for the others, but needless to say my best was never good enough, and my mother (despite all the great things she did do, and I don't forget) could not let her youngest go. She in later life admitted trying to keep me a child a lot longer than she should have. The hardest part of my adolescence and young adulthood was informing my parents (and not very politely) that I had my own views and my own idea for what my life would be. The movie hits on very real themes; the characters are really well done, and comically over the top, which reminds me all to well of how strange my growing up life sometimes got. You point out a lot of great bits about this film, and especially the effects, camera work and plot holes big enough to drive the Starship Enterprise through! I've never been a big fan of Pixar because there's just too much of it. Too many movies. Pull back and stop trying to maximize the dollars and make better movies. Thought I do admit, they got it right with this one.

This movie got thirteen year olds right

@rommix0

2 жыл бұрын

and for some people the movie did it too well.

@Ri57490

2 жыл бұрын

The only unrealistic thing was all four of the kids in the friendship group liking the same boyband and that at least one of them should have been a fan of girlbands too (like The Spice Girls, or Destiny's Child etc) because they mostly had female fans.

1:10 What, so Boys can only like Boybands if they're Gay? What bs.

@hithere7080

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, but only gays and bis can love boys, which is what tyler said, and that pixar confirmed it in a letter about Disney not allowing lgbt characters in the most recent movie (this one)

I love the scene with the dad because he saw that she was genuinely happy. And the scene with her younger mom was beautiful too

15:30 Actually, I have an idea. Meiling's panda was a 13 year old, who overall perceived her mother as loving, caring but overbearing, and only carries the resentment of that part. The panda blossomed as a reaction to being humiliated by her mother, something 'Mei-Mei' represses heavily. Ming's panda, however, was different. Jin mentions seeing it in the flesh, before it was sealed away, so Ming was most likely in her late teens, just as we see in the bamboo forest scene. Ming doesn't look 13, she looks 16, maybe 17. Ming also perceived her mother as strict, controlling and impossible to please, to the degree of low contacting her once she grew up. Wu and her generation are most likely first- or second-generation immigrants, and also come from a time where honoring one's parents was a MUCH higher priority than in Millennial youth, so they were likely in the middle and didn't have as much tension built up as Ming, though maybe they were less coddled by their mothers so it was still more than Meiling. As for why Wu and the aunties are all fully adults and undamaged, I think a part of Ming was frozen in that trauma. It controlled how she raised Meiling and how she interacted with her birth family. She ws essentially the same 17 year old girl who went Kaiju-panda, slashed her mom's eye and ran off with Jin, only now faking adulthood till she made it. Also, as for Wu and Meiling vs Wu and Ming, I definitely think that grandmothers are much more lax on their teen to adult granddaughters than on their teen and often adult daughters, and are more likely to see them as individuals growing into adulthood than as babies or extension of themselves. I'm not Chinese or any other East Asian ethnicity, but it rang true for me, my mother and her mother.

I believe the panda’s sizes depend on how much built up emotion the people have inside them, and that’s why Ming’s is so big. I don’t remember if this is mentioned in the movie though.

4:32 my most favorite scene too, ratatouille vibes

I loved watching this movie with my mom, especially since I’m an adult now, it was fun relating back to earlier years, my favorite thing she said was “well, at least you never twerked at me” 😂😂

The giant baby bowser music fit so well for the clips of her mom towering over the stadium

2:13 Lead singer _Jesse_ ??? Dazz _misname_ Robaire? Dazz misname Robaire like the side character?? Oh! Jail for Dazz! Jail for Dazz for 1000 years!!!

I absolutely LOVE Turning Red! The animation was so skillful and energetic!

At the scene with Mei and her dad, I was sobbing! Things really don't have to be action-packed to be memorable.

As someone who grew up in the early 2000s, I really wish I had this movie when I was first going through puberty. Not only that but the mother daughter relationship is extremely relatable and I found myself feeling my emotions I had back then while watching this movie. Seriously amazing