the scariest book scene

In this video:
The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood (1985)
Why Don't Worry Darling Doesn't Work by ‪@Princess_Weekes‬
Link: • Why Don't Worry Darlin...
The Stepford Wives by Ira Levin (1972)
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  • @zactron1997
    @zactron19972 ай бұрын

    It's alarmist right up until it's too late. That's what an alarm is for.

  • @ani_anonymuncle

    @ani_anonymuncle

    Ай бұрын

    This line is a gut punch in the best way possible

  • @alexwynters600
    @alexwynters6002 ай бұрын

    Last line hit like a god damn freight train...

  • @laze4534

    @laze4534

    2 ай бұрын

    Would you rather be alone in the woods with a bear or a freight train?

  • @evawilliammusic

    @evawilliammusic

    2 ай бұрын

    Really truly

  • @Saphiresurf

    @Saphiresurf

    2 ай бұрын

    Seriously jesus christ

  • @ilessthan3bees

    @ilessthan3bees

    Ай бұрын

    From the thumbnail I thought the terrifying scene was in stepford wives, then the handmaid's tale. Nope, it was the video essay.

  • @michaelkalin2209
    @michaelkalin22092 ай бұрын

    "imagine being this guy's wife (derogatory)" i love the direction you are taking this channel. she goes hard and we respect the hell out of that.

  • @jeremeowey
    @jeremeowey2 ай бұрын

    Loved the connection you made between the bear jokes and the book, now I will be thinking about the last line of the video for the rest of my week

  • @jsdutky
    @jsdutky2 ай бұрын

    The most horrific thing about the Handmaid's Tale, according the the Margaret Atwood herself, is that all of the horrors in the book were things that actually happened in recorded history. She meant for it to be a gut punch.

  • @robpeterslaypaul
    @robpeterslaypaul2 ай бұрын

    "The Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) is a United States law enacted October 28, 1974. Before the enactment of the law, lenders and the federal government frequently and explicitly discriminated against female loan applicants and held female applicants to different standards from male applicants."

  • @chrisl6546

    @chrisl6546

    2 ай бұрын

    Happened to my mom after my parents divorced in the early 70s. She came out crying because a department store wouldn't give her a credit card because she was a woman. Once I had money I didn't shop at that store for 30 years. They're out of business now and I hope I helped.

  • @DanaFried01
    @DanaFried012 ай бұрын

    Well that was a gut punch

  • @minervaselysium137
    @minervaselysium1372 ай бұрын

    wait a minute that last example was too specific. "Are you safe Dr Collier?"

  • @asdffdsaasdf12345678

    @asdffdsaasdf12345678

    2 ай бұрын

    I hope so, her line does say she was imagining the scene. I had to listen to it again to notice, my initial reaction was the same.

  • @GSBarlev

    @GSBarlev

    2 ай бұрын

    I watched the ending again, and I'm guessing it's not autobiographical, but it's probably a good sign for her audience's empathy capacity that there are *multiple comments* asking this.

  • @mehill00

    @mehill00

    2 ай бұрын

    @@GSBarlev Yes, came here to find out if Angela was outing a (presumably/hopefully) ex boyfriend/husband with that “fuck a bear” story. It seems like something a real person (who’s an asshole) would say rather than a crafted punch line, so I got worried.

  • @timw8398

    @timw8398

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes absolutely agree! Very upsetting the way it stopped so abruptly!! I also really hope it was just for effect. I hope everything is OK!!

  • @timw8398

    @timw8398

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@mehill00same!!

  • @AdrianColley
    @AdrianColleyАй бұрын

    9:01 That quote, "The same men getting testerical..." is gold for giving us a new and much-needed word.

  • @finbar1184
    @finbar11842 ай бұрын

    That ending hit like a bomb, amazing video!

  • @jylietmaddyzpires2442
    @jylietmaddyzpires24422 ай бұрын

    Rosemary's Baby gives me that same sense of horror. It's on a more individual scale, but everyone's lying to her, taking away her agency, controlling her body, controlling her life, controlling the people around her. It's terrifying.

  • @deezznuts5396

    @deezznuts5396

    2 ай бұрын

    Same author as stepford wives if I recall

  • @terryflynn6927

    @terryflynn6927

    Ай бұрын

    I read the book a long time ago, but I've seen the movie several times, and that scene where the "good" doctor betrays her to her husband and the witchy doctor. Just so chilling.

  • @postscript7783
    @postscript77832 ай бұрын

    I feel like another aspect of this that men who get really mad about this meme aren’t understanding is that yes, getting mauled by a bear is horrifying, but there’s another kind of horror to getting mauled by another human. “you have a better chance of fighting off a man if he decides to attack” is not really the point. there’s a deep-seated indignity women feel about “becoming a statistic.” contrary to what conservatives will tell you, most people don’t like feeling like a victim. the only way I can describe it is that getting killed by a bear feels like a less degrading death than getting killed by a man. nature is harsh, but at least it’s not personal; the bear can’t victimize and dehumanize you the way another human can. it’s not “rational,” but it is what it is.

  • @avinoamwcat

    @avinoamwcat

    18 күн бұрын

    It is rational. Your humanity is valuable. Being dehumanized is painful and a direct attack on who you are, bypassing the organic interface. BTW I'm a man. I don't think this misconception of what is scary is restricted to men. You felt the need to say it's not rational, because that is how society views it. It shouldn't be hard to explain the bear meme to a man, just ask what they'd prefer: being punched by a man or slapped by a woman. Rejection is painful. (Not as bad as oppression.) I'm guessing that the men that responded badly to the bear meme were triggered by their own insecurity and misunderstanding of women. It's ironic that it's their own emotional pain that drives them to this.

  • @You_work_tomorrow
    @You_work_tomorrow2 ай бұрын

    I hope that ending was artistically scary and not cry for help scary, but point well made

  • @jameslloyd2540

    @jameslloyd2540

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes please, exactly this 🙏

  • @GSBarlev

    @GSBarlev

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah, if my SO reacted that way, I'd get a hotel room (and take the kiddo). Or if he were my male colleague and told me about the incident the next day, I'd: 1. Try to talk some sense into him 2. Check in discreetly with all of his non-male direct reports

  • @adashofbitter

    @adashofbitter

    2 ай бұрын

    @@GSBarlev Lol - this is exactly what Joanna’s psych tells her to do in the original stepford wives movie. Joanna says that she thinks she’s going to be killed and replaced by a robot, and her psychiatrist is like “yeah, actually, I can see men doing that… take the kids, get into the car, and drive.” And somehow, it’s believable.

  • @joe-edward

    @joe-edward

    Ай бұрын

    Yea, I kinda wish you would post a followup video to confirm that this either wasn't about you, or, if it was, that you're out of that situation and in a safe place.

  • @potatopotatow
    @potatopotatow2 ай бұрын

    Reading A Handmaids Tale as a mother of two young girls was a truly difficult experience. I can barely make it through 3 pages at a time before I start weeping.

  • @FollowSmoke
    @FollowSmoke2 ай бұрын

    This video is going to stick with me for a bit. Well done.

  • @storageheater
    @storageheater2 ай бұрын

    i read the Stepford Wives a few years ago for basically the same reason - all I knew of it before was the sort of weird dated slightly raunchy comic vibe because it had been flattened and parodied so much. But it genuinely just... ruled, I was shocked. Also UK law: "It wasn't until 1975 that women could open a bank account in their own name. Single women still couldn't apply for a loan or credit card in their own name without a signature from their father, even if they earned more." If you're over 40, this probably affected your mothers. It certainly affected your grandmothers. All I ever heard of this growing up was "angry women in the 70s burning their bras." Which now I think of it, is a similarly flattened and parodied version of events.

  • @bluemooninthedaylight8073

    @bluemooninthedaylight8073

    Ай бұрын

    Great observations. It's all too easy to think of past events taken out of context and not realize that they were/are a part of a greater problem. We can see this with plights that involve people of color and queer people being reduced to a perceived nuisance. "Can you believe they held up traffic with a protest because they want basic human rights?"

  • @thepudgyninja
    @thepudgyninja2 ай бұрын

    I know it’s not literally real but the story at then end was very upsetting. Largely because I’m sure it’s real for some people. I haven’t read A Handmaids Tale or The Stepford Wives (though maybe I will soon), but you definitely captured the vibe you described.

  • @cyclonasaurusrex1525
    @cyclonasaurusrex15252 ай бұрын

    Observation: The Revolutionary War was fought over disputes far less significant than one’s bodily autonomy.

  • @falseprofit9801

    @falseprofit9801

    2 ай бұрын

    F a c t s. Be a citizen with the ideals the founding fathers claimed they had, but never granted to anybody except their inner circle.

  • @GreatBigBore

    @GreatBigBore

    Ай бұрын

    Oh no, it was fought for the rights of rich, white, male property- and slave-owners to pay lower taxes and have more political power. That’s way more significant than the body autonomy of women

  • @WhichDoctor1
    @WhichDoctor12 ай бұрын

    the best example of the man vs bear meme I've seen was a cartoon of a woman in bondage gear sitting next to a big hairy guy also in bondage gear and the tiniest hot pants sitting next to a fire in the woods roasting marshmallows. And the caption was 'id choose the bear'. Just a silly little play on words. But the comments under were just filled with but hurt guys going on about how dangerous bears are, and how it's feminist ideology making women hate men that's destroying the world and whatever. While the cartoon literally shows a woman and a man sitting together having a nice time in the woods

  • @totlyepic
    @totlyepic2 ай бұрын

    The specificity of the story at the end left me a little worried. I hope that wasn't autobiographical. (good video)

  • @petercollin5670
    @petercollin56702 ай бұрын

    The memes have gotten way darker since the "Will you peel me an orange" days.

  • @robpeterslaypaul

    @robpeterslaypaul

    2 ай бұрын

    Twenty years ago, that scenario happened to me. Asked my partner if she would mind peeling an orange because I had no nails at the time, and hers were longer. She started to oblige when our mutual best friend looked at her and said "He can peel his own fucking orange!". And I did.

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan2 ай бұрын

    I mean, after this controversy, all the psychopathic murderers are clearly going to be wearing bear costumes, so...

  • @trex6142
    @trex61422 ай бұрын

    The part that gets me is how many women will vote for men who want to take their rights away. In 2020 Trump got a majority of the white women vote .

  • @GSBarlev

    @GSBarlev

    2 ай бұрын

    -Bear- Keep in mind that voter suppression is a thing that targets liberals in a number of different ways. Voter turnout in 2020, IIRC, was 60%, and Drumpf got ~40% of the vote, meaning only about 1/4 of eligible voters actually voted for him.

  • @TweenkPL

    @TweenkPL

    2 ай бұрын

    White women who voted for Trump voted for being white over being women

  • @dennisfox8673
    @dennisfox86732 ай бұрын

    I guess I’m glad that my response to the bear memes was “Yeah, that’s reasonable. And my only response is to live in a way doesn’t prove it to be correct. First step, not taking it personally and feeling a need to try and show the entire internet the error of its ways.”

  • @dennisfox8673

    @dennisfox8673

    2 ай бұрын

    Also, fantastic ending to your video.

  • @ChrisCoul
    @ChrisCoul2 ай бұрын

    The man, bear thing being taken literally reminds me of in "The Good Place", when they force Chidi to explore the Trolley Problem literally.

  • @orterves

    @orterves

    2 ай бұрын

    Except the men taking it literally seemed to be stunned that the woman would choose the tracks instead of the trolley, where he'd have no choice but to run her over

  • @LimeyLassen

    @LimeyLassen

    Ай бұрын

    Another indication that Reddit is a good metaphor for Hell.

  • @lupipacifica
    @lupipacifica2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for another great video and thank you so much for talking about these very important situations. I believe the point you made about how you had been telling people for 15 years that republicans were coming to take women's rights away (while everybody said you were overreacting) and then they took women's healthy care rights away is so damn relevant and real. This is exactly why I cried so much while reading The Handmaid's Tale. For me the biggest horror of this book was (by far) this slow but sure path towards women loosing all their rights, while everybody else kept saying "nah, it's fine, it's gonna be fine, you're worrying too much". As a woman, seeing this shit happening over and over again around me in the world keeps me up at night.

  • @stephanwimmer1338
    @stephanwimmer13382 ай бұрын

    Welp ... that's enough horror for me today :/

  • @reallifeistoflat
    @reallifeistoflat2 ай бұрын

    i have a bear who walks around my neighbourhood eating peoples organic trash bins and generally living her best life. It never crossed my mind that i should be afraid of a bear. If a random man was walking across my backyard though...

  • @spellkowski6996

    @spellkowski6996

    Ай бұрын

    looool you should absolutely be afraid of every bear and by that I mean respect them cuz they are not cartoon bears that said, I get what you are saying and largely agree

  • @reallifeistoflat

    @reallifeistoflat

    Ай бұрын

    @@spellkowski6996 oh i respect bears. I live rural though. Wild animals mostly keep to themselves unless something is mega wrong. I wouldn't say that I'm afraid of wild animals though. Not only that but bear is the last wild animal i would consider scary because they are not troublemakers. Coyotes are actually scary at night

  • @mmlvx
    @mmlvx2 ай бұрын

    Stepford Wives is a helluva book. I read it the summer before junior year of h.s., and wouldn't let anyone within arms reach for two months. I was fortunate to miss the whole man vs bear thing (not surprising, I only heard about gamergate about 5 years afterwards). I'd just like to point out that not all bears will attack unprovoked.' Did not expect that ending. Delivered with visceral emotional truth. I hope it's a sign that, in addition to being an excellent (though reluctant) science communicator, you have serious thespian skill.

  • @joechip1232
    @joechip12322 ай бұрын

    I had few friends growing up and my only two close guy friends are both super sweet feminists, so I had no idea of just how f'd up so many men are until I started having more women friends. The stories I've heard have been absolutely chilling. Men, if you feel attacked by this meme, talk to some women about their experiences and learn. Offer to help keep them safe by doing things like being a check in when they go on a date, etc. When you hear other men saying sexist garbage, don't let it fly. If you treat women with respect, see them as equals, etc., then the meme isn't about you. But you should be aware that there are A LOT of men out there that I would rather not have my women friends run into in a forest instead of a bear.

  • @wbebbs
    @wbebbs2 ай бұрын

    I signed up for the science but now I just want MORE BOOKS! Also, thanks for the insightful points. Also, sorry for the all caps bit.

  • @beanieweenietapioca
    @beanieweenietapioca2 ай бұрын

    Change comments from "top" to "newest" and discover all the dudes writing variations of "Hush" in response.

  • @o0Meeshell0o
    @o0Meeshell0o2 ай бұрын

    I work in IT, I wasnt able to articulate (still can't fully), this feels so much like the time at lunch where my superiors (all men) were all saying they want their babies to be boys rather than girls. They're great people but I felt hurt when its such a common sentiment with men.

  • @0326dp

    @0326dp

    2 ай бұрын

    common sentiment with women too (atleast in the east, where i live), which is ofc problematic too. scary world

  • @valintepes
    @valintepes2 ай бұрын

    I missed the original discussions of the bear thing. I think it's just not that well crafted an analogy, and most of us dudes, younger ones mostly, even if not raging misogynists, just haven't the empathy or basic factual understanding of what's behind the analogy. (Many older dudes don't either). And their response reveals that ignorance, and lack of care, which fuels this discussion. Sad, but I get how it went the way it did. But that last line was incredibly well crafted. Short, punchy, and encompass the whole argument. Beautiful. Terrible.

  • @GSBarlev

    @GSBarlev

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean, I don't think it's a well crafted controversy because, as a man, *I'd choose the bear, too.* Like, a bear in the woods? That's his (or her) home, and they're just doing what they need to survive-if I'm not threatening their turf (or their cubs), and I'm not carrying a pic-a-nic basket, the bear is unlikely to even want me to be aware of its presence.

  • @0326dp

    @0326dp

    2 ай бұрын

    @@GSBarlev exactly, like what the fuck is a man doing in a forest??? stranger danger??? hello?? where that "i could fight a bear" spirit that most men have???

  • @alexwynters600

    @alexwynters600

    2 ай бұрын

    @@GSBarlev This is what confused me about all the people trying to "logic" their way through the discourse. I'd still pick the damn bear even if this was a problem you had to solve and not rhetorical device.

  • @nathanlee2942
    @nathanlee294218 күн бұрын

    The first bit was so horrifying I forgot that "The Handmaid's Tale" wasn't even the book on the thumbnail.

  • @UnMoored_
    @UnMoored_2 ай бұрын

    A woman is walking into a remote, dark forest late at night with a man whom she does not know and says to him, “I’m scared”. The man responds, “I will be scared walking out of the forest by myself”.

  • @glyph_official
    @glyph_official2 ай бұрын

    As a man I read scenes like these with the horror in my own head. Are there little bits of that monster inside me? How do I make sure I never do this, or even veer in the direction of doing this? But the bit at the end… I felt that one from the woman’s point of view and it was like getting flattened by a truck. (And the storytelling and the acting - god I hope it was acting - was so good that I can’t be *quite* sure it’s not real)

  • @CPaulCounts
    @CPaulCountsАй бұрын

    Well, hell. That ended effectively.

  • @davidedelson9061
    @davidedelson906124 күн бұрын

    The thing I love most about this video is how if someone asked me "What is the most horrifying scene in the Handmaid's Tale?" I never would have guessed that one, but your unpacking of that scene was *so real*. Great stuff.

  • @ISc0tchI
    @ISc0tchI2 ай бұрын

    I've listened to a lot of people explain the bear discourse and I have to say, you managed to convey more in a few minutes than most have in half an hour.

  • @WhereIsMyAlbatross
    @WhereIsMyAlbatrossАй бұрын

    I think you're right AND I think that what the bear conversation touches on for a lot of men (including me) is that it's dehumanising and hurtful to be treated like a constant threat. It's easy to feel, mistakenly, that the discourse we support is lurching into a place where men are depicted as assaults waiting to happen, because those are the representations that stick in your head days later (and because they're good at generating clicks). To have somebody say something that sounds, at first blush, like "Actually, I think men are less safe than an animal" feels in the gut like a confirmation of the fact that there are people around you who think that you, (sandwich-eater, toe-stubber, sock-owner) are an animal that wants to hurt them. It's not, of course, but it is alienating, and it brings up every memory of somebody crossing the street to keep away from you while you're carrying your shopping home with your headphones in. Being reminded of the lengths to which women have to go to keep themselves safe is confronting for a lot of us, (it's shocking to realise for the first time that knowing every thousandth blackberry is poisoned means you can never eat blackberries safely) but this feels like one step further (hearing someone say that they'd rather eat mistletoe than take their chances with a blackberry). The format invites the least charitable reading. It's a perfect, horrible, self driving little internet argument that generates its own power as it runs and works because everyone who interacts with it feels horror and fear and shame and disgust.

  • @nbixel
    @nbixelАй бұрын

    ty so much for Princess Weekes recommendation. Also Susu_jpg has a wonderful commentary youtube on the Bear or Man thing as well, seems to be the hot topic. All you science nerds also check that commentary out its great. I may have to read both books now!

  • @Psysium
    @PsysiumАй бұрын

    That last line gave me goosebumps. Wow. If you ever write a book, I'm reading it!

  • @VeteranEU
    @VeteranEU2 ай бұрын

    You are now most of the way towards understanding Twin Peaks: The Return

  • @jonathonreed2417
    @jonathonreed2417Ай бұрын

    I hate to maybe add to others deeply unsettling feelings around current "things" but I had this same kind of experience except reading a wikipedia article about Total Fertility Rate. In the article there was a section on what countries had tried to do in the past to stop the decline of birth rates. it briefly mentioned decree 770, during the reign of Nicolae Ceaușescu in Romania. Women were monitored monthly by a gynecologist, abortion and contraception was broadly banned, childlessness was taxed, and so on. Thing is, briefly, total fertility went up. And that's something that terrifies me, because I know deep down, a narrative will be constructed around this success so that it will seem to people that want this the only problem was a lack of discipline or enforcement. We already see public handwringing from the usual suspects about declining birth rates. Margaret Atwood drew inspiration from contemporary events including Decree 770 and the rise of the evangelical right in America. The fact that this pattern is playing out in our current society is why it's so a scary, and why her writing is so good.

  • @ummon
    @ummon2 ай бұрын

    I don't come here for this content, but so pleasantly surprised to see it and to see the reference back to Princess Weekes to whom I also subscribe. Keep rockin.

  • @avinoamwcat
    @avinoamwcat18 күн бұрын

    If time on the internet runs faster does that mean it's a source of negative gravity? You're 100% a person, and you bring value to society, as a scientist and (you'll hate this) an entertainer (your videos are hilarious) and as a critical thinker with a sound opinion. It's so sad that even now women's rights is controversial. Clever trick with the last line. Hammered the point.

  • @StigmataTickles
    @StigmataTickles2 ай бұрын

    As a guy it was immediately obvious why the women would chose to run into a bear. A bear will attack you because it's hungry or thinks you're a threat. A man will attack you for fun. A man will keep you for fun. The lack of self awareness among guys is staggering. I get why it hurts to be compared unfavorably to a wild animal, but I also understand the reality of the scenario.

  • @joechip1232

    @joechip1232

    2 ай бұрын

    And most bears will just avoid you.

  • @cia4u401

    @cia4u401

    2 ай бұрын

    Assuming the worst in both cases you have a chance fighting off a guy relatively unscathed, though, as slim as those chances might be. The bear's just going to eat you alive.

  • @StigmataTickles

    @StigmataTickles

    2 ай бұрын

    @@cia4u401 The hypothetical isn't really about fighting odds, just that a bear wears its intentions openly vs a person which can communicate, gain your trust, and then still do awful things to you as pointed out in the video. They're choosing the bear for certainty.

  • @cia4u401

    @cia4u401

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@StigmataTickles Would you do anything other than just exchange a few words with the man? If you're in the middle of the woods and it's not someone you trust you wouldn't try to stick around and have him gain your trust in any sort of way. Maybe I've just seen read/heard about too many bear attacks and it's made me biased. I just picture in my mind what happened to Allena Hansen or that couple who had a camera recording as a bear tore into their camp and ate them both alive and think I'd rather take my chances with a serial killer or malicious man since at least I'd actually have chances there.

  • @cia4u401

    @cia4u401

    2 ай бұрын

    @@MathGrove it is pretty funny tbh

  • @BTHobbies
    @BTHobbies2 ай бұрын

    I had no idea where this was going, but it was compelling and thought provoking all the way through and the turn to modern discourse was a delight! I suspect that last line is going to be rattling around in my head for a while.

  • @adashofbitter
    @adashofbitter2 ай бұрын

    The original 70s movie is genuinely one of my favourites, but the remake with Nicole Kidman has made everyone think of The Stepford Wives as an unfunny joke. It’s not - it’s a really terrifying movie. The scariest scene in the movie, to me, is when Joanna finds out her psychiatrist is going on holiday and she begs her for advice… she says “I won’t be here when you get back. Don’t ask me to explain it. I just know. There’ll be somebody, and she’ll look like me, and she’ll cook and she’ll clean, but she won’t take pictures and she won’t be me.” And the psychiatrist believes her. Something about a psychiatrist believing what should instantly be a redflag for schizophrenia really shook me… In weighing up whether Joanna is more of a threat to herself than her husband is, she comes down on the side that her husband is the threat. It shouldn’t be believable. In fact, nothing about that book/movie should be believable. But it all works so well. Unfortunately it’s a hard movie to see these days.

  • @david21216
    @david212162 ай бұрын

    Been digging all your vids, keep up the great work!

  • @neo_marshkga
    @neo_marshkga2 ай бұрын

    I always felt disturbed by that scene, but back when i read it i couldnt articulate why exactly it left me creeped out. Havent tought about it in a long time, nice video, that ending was brutal, love this new side content, short and relevant book commentary that falls away from the typical review videos feels fresh

  • @judychurley6623
    @judychurley6623Ай бұрын

    When the film of Handmaid's Tale came out, my wife at the time saw it in Oceanside CA and was visibly upset at the end. And a Marine from the base was in the theater, came up and told her they (meaning the Marines) would not let that happen. But now in 2024, who can say?

  • @johnlemon4293
    @johnlemon42932 ай бұрын

    Stanzipotenza did a funny short around this whole bear v men discourse

  • @quangobaud

    @quangobaud

    2 ай бұрын

    👍🤓

  • @GSBarlev

    @GSBarlev

    2 ай бұрын

    I Stan Stanzi (🥁). Her _Sheila Darwin: Alpha Male Hunter_ series is top notch, and every time someone horrible dies, I'm furiously hitting F5 waiting to hear, "Oh, Joanne..."

  • @Casperski1312
    @Casperski1312Ай бұрын

    This is your best video yet. You really gave me goosebumps. I was part of this bear discussion among a few other men (not my friends, I do not claim them) back when it first started and they took the opportunity to blame feminists and their bear question for pushing men and women apart, but the way I see it, this discussion is just a flashlight in the dark exposing a divide that was already there. They seemed incapable of hearing my reason though, which is horrifying. I'm really worried about it all.

  • @jeffreygunter417
    @jeffreygunter4172 ай бұрын

    OK , that was a lot. Thank you again.. ❤

  • @raygreek4193
    @raygreek4193Ай бұрын

    Atwood has another somewhat famous set called the MaddAddam Trilogy. Kind of books about animals and the environment as opposed to women but still with the same general themes.

  • @RoundSparrow
    @RoundSparrow2 ай бұрын

    Great to see you take this issue and show the articulation across recent time, since 1970. I really hope humanity can stir up a compassion revolution / reformation.

  • @mikeymad
    @mikeymad2 ай бұрын

    wow ... nice ending -- thanks for this.

  • @lidu6363
    @lidu6363Ай бұрын

    Gods I love your book channel.

  • @chuth2768
    @chuth2768Ай бұрын

    “Bear is a strange and wonderful book . . . shapely as a folktale, and with the same disturbing resonance.” -Margaret Atwood

  • @akuchling

    @akuchling

    Ай бұрын

    This was Atwood's comment on Marian Engel's 1970s novel "Bear", which is in fact about a woman who has relations with a bear. Here's Liz Davidson's measuredly favorable review of that book: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qIBrmLqAcqXKmqg.html

  • @chuth2768

    @chuth2768

    Ай бұрын

    @@akuchling entire generations of canadians feeling like the bear discourse is trolling them

  • @fabio-maciel
    @fabio-macielАй бұрын

    it seems that if the option was 2 bears it would still be safer

  • @calmkat9032
    @calmkat9032Ай бұрын

    What's really scary about that scene in Handmaid's Tale is that he seems to be just fine up until then. She married him after all. But then he gets permission to control another person and he suddenly has already started to. We saw this in 1930's and 40's Germany when people got permission to take their neighbors possessions because they were no longer legally people, and then it just happened. Not by the brownshirts, but by any citizen of a sanctioned ethnicity.

  • @pedanticnerd-cs5kx
    @pedanticnerd-cs5kx2 ай бұрын

    So I've started doing standup comedy at open mics for fun. The host introduced this man bear Internet discourse at the start and a few comics riffed on it a bit in good fun. Some of the jokes were a bit offensive, but it's a standup open mic so you get what you get. People are figuring their jokes out. But this one guy just angrily ranted about how bears are more dangerous, especially nowadays when modern men barely look like men etc. Even as a man, I felt so uncomfortable. PS: In a shocking twist, I heard a rumor that that guy was fired from his job due to harassment.

  • @ToTheWolves
    @ToTheWolves8 күн бұрын

    If you do re read The Handmaids Tale, consider read the follow up: the Testament

  • @harrison6082
    @harrison60822 ай бұрын

    Im really impressed you make a lot of content.

  • @Sarandosil
    @SarandosilАй бұрын

    I also read the Handmaid's tale when I was in highschool, and it didn't make much of an impression and I thought it was odd how much attention it got. In retrospect being Saudi made a lot of the book too normal for me to really understand how Americans experienced it

  • @RickyDog1989
    @RickyDog19892 ай бұрын

    Literature has power!

  • @bubbafug00gle51
    @bubbafug00gle512 ай бұрын

    I am glad you are doing these and hope you keep this channel busy. Engagement! Feed the algo, everyone

  • @zachreads
    @zachreadsАй бұрын

    The same Princess weeks video made me add Stepfird Wives to my tbr but I havn't gotten to it yet.

  • @MichaelJenkins910
    @MichaelJenkins9102 ай бұрын

    That scene lives in my head as well. When I first read it I was amazed at how clueless Luke seemed to be. Now that I'm 45 I'm even less sure what to make of him in that exchange.

  • @floren2013
    @floren20132 ай бұрын

    Imagine that, we men are so down that we cannt accept that a bear is better than us... glory to the bear

  • @urooj09
    @urooj09Ай бұрын

    Sadly handmaid tale is actually a reality in many places of the world. I am not from the west and we really like to criticise west for colonisation and racism other shit but one thing that i hate is people criticising west for liberalism. Living in the global south you wish you had laws like west here and i hate the current alt right shit going there because if the only place with few liberal laws die yhen what will people here in asia , middle east and africa will aspire. Even here the right has started using american right wing terminology like woke and etc and it's fucking scary. Plus you see the people migrate to west from global south but then those guys would actually support the conservative govt back home and sit there in west enjoy the freedom there

  • @urooj09

    @urooj09

    Ай бұрын

    Really wish I had money to immigrate lol

  • @AdrianColley
    @AdrianColleyАй бұрын

    9:15 I didn't believe that "God chooses the bear" meme, so I looked it up. It's in the book of Proverbs, chapter 17, verse 12. "Better to meet a bear robbed of her cubs than a fool bent on folly."

  • @GreatBigBore

    @GreatBigBore

    Ай бұрын

    You think that’s bad, go find “the greatest commandment” according to Jesus himself. It’s Leviticus 19:18. Your “neighbor” in “love thy neighbor” emphatically does not mean “your fellow human being”; it means “your fellow Israeli”. You can make slaves and war spoils of other races. Jesus knew it, his listeners knew it. Only modern people misunderstand

  • @GH-oi2jf

    @GH-oi2jf

    Ай бұрын

    But God did not write The Bible. Men wrote it.

  • @LimeyLassen

    @LimeyLassen

    Ай бұрын

    The book of Proverbs really about dunking on fools, just relentless

  • @southwestedc
    @southwestedcАй бұрын

    Havent finished the video yet but I do want to recommend the rest of Margaret Atwoods work specifically the Maddadam trilogy. Very much just as gripping as the The Handmaids Tale but with a slightly different focus.

  • @stevecastiglione8901
    @stevecastiglione89012 ай бұрын

    best channel out there...

  • @mollymaybe
    @mollymaybe18 күн бұрын

    well damn i guess i gotta read that book before i finish this video. i need to experience this for myself first.

  • @reynoldsVincent
    @reynoldsVincentАй бұрын

    A gripplingly effective video that made the point. I do recommend the MadAdaM Trilogy too just because it offers a weird sort of hope for the situation by drastic means. And there is The Blind Assassin which seems just a period noir detective thriller but is amazing and stunning on the whole human nature going back to the dawn of culture. Misogyny is at a crisis point. Anyway, a well-made video. I also like anything Jeanette Winterson ever wrote or said on misogyny or anything, she is a sharp critic of AI and our ongoing polycrisis RIGHT NOW!

  • @ChadGeidel
    @ChadGeidelАй бұрын

    I started reading The Handmaid's Tale a few years ago and I just got too distressed. I'll try again sometime.

  • @lematindesmagiciens8764
    @lematindesmagiciens87642 ай бұрын

    Masterful finale. Reminds me of the science-fiction author Fredric Brown, who wrote short stories with humorous endings. He is the author of Martians Go Home.

  • @rainbowkrampus
    @rainbowkrampus2 ай бұрын

    The wild thing about the man vs. bear discourse was all the women being deeply confused about rates of SA. Like, dang, do you just not leave the house?

  • @damiankennedy2012
    @damiankennedy20122 ай бұрын

    There's a lot to this I haven't got my head around. Hades 2 just came out and some people are refusing to play it.

  • @legendzero6755
    @legendzero67552 ай бұрын

    Very powerful video for only 10 minutes long

  • @zachreads
    @zachreadsАй бұрын

    My top 2 recs for men ruining everything books are Tender Morsels by Margo Lanagan and The Mercies by Kiran Millwood Hargrave. Sara Blædel writes some of the best crime books that show why bear is the correct choice.

  • @btrenninger1
    @btrenninger12 ай бұрын

    Let me suggest A E. Van Vogt's novel Renaissance from 1979. A little later than Stepford Wives. I don't know if it's a direct response to the Stepford Wives but certainly is a response to similar literature at the time.

  • @billyalarie929
    @billyalarie929Ай бұрын

    Holy Christ that last line.

  • @Nobody_Nowhere_Never
    @Nobody_Nowhere_Never2 ай бұрын

    I hope you have the courage, support, and financial means to do what's necessary.

  • @GSBarlev

    @GSBarlev

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm guessing it's not autobiographical, as Angela (to my knowledge) doesn't have kids; didn't get married in high school; is still wearing her ring.

  • @Nobody_Nowhere_Never

    @Nobody_Nowhere_Never

    2 ай бұрын

    @@GSBarlev Why would that affect what I posted?

  • @GSBarlev

    @GSBarlev

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Nobody_Nowhere_Never I'm so sorry! I totally misinterpreted your comment. I thought you were saying that she should leave her partner (having inferred that the story at the end was something that actually happened).

  • @nmh11
    @nmh11Ай бұрын

    I think the funniest part of the hypothetical is that both choices are negative. It's a bad 'would you rather?' Men don't think of themselves as one of the 'enemies' in this encounter, but they should. You don't want to run into ANYTHING if you are alone in the woods.

  • @joe-edward
    @joe-edwardАй бұрын

    Would you mind posting a followup video to confirm that this either wasn't about you, or, if it was, that you're out of that situation and in a safe place?

  • @pdwarnes
    @pdwarnesАй бұрын

    Scariest video of the year.

  • @timothyjarman2308
    @timothyjarman23082 ай бұрын

    Wow that is horrifying.

  • @m.scottmcgahan9900
    @m.scottmcgahan9900Ай бұрын

    Since you've been into reading Sci-Fi, I'd be really curious what you thought of The Book of the New Sun. I know it's a big ask, since it's a series of 4 (5 if you count the coda) but I really think someone who is an intelligent and thoughtful as you would have an interesting take on it. My favorite thing about it is that the author, Gene Wolfe, knows the power of subtlety and gradual realization, and has enough respect for his audience that he doesn't feel the need to hold your hand and explicitly state what everything means.

  • @jaymenjanssens720
    @jaymenjanssens720Ай бұрын

    Incredible

  • @biggerdoofus
    @biggerdoofusАй бұрын

    The bear question is interesting, both in that I would expect the responses to vary by both region and age, and also in that neither one of those options is actually likely to end up horrible if it only happens a couple times. Like, I'm not sure it even makes sense to bring in statistics, since the actual most relevant concern would just be which will cause more anxiety. ...also, I'd choose the bear. I'm not good with strangers.

  • @ToTheWolves
    @ToTheWolves8 күн бұрын

    If our rights are stripped akin to the HMTs, there will be violinz, a lot of it.

  • @orkosubmarine
    @orkosubmarineАй бұрын

    daaaaamn girl you rock

  • @thebigreddub
    @thebigreddub2 ай бұрын

    It's genuinely wild how like half of all men just don't see women as actual human beings.

  • @excep7
    @excep7Ай бұрын

    I imagine you saying that to mr. Collier, not the other way around

  • @vcostello712
    @vcostello712Ай бұрын

    Unrelated comment but I remember in a QnA you said you like ALAB but are sad they're gone... They just released a long awaited new episode today if you didn't see it. Cheers!

  • @roneyandrade6287
    @roneyandrade62872 ай бұрын

    The Dispossessed for your next book please